You are really close if not over on box fill my friend, please show your math. most regular depth octogon boxes are about 15 cubic inches. i am seeing 8 ,# 12's (8x2.25=18),,,,plus 4 #12 ecgs = 2.25...total 20.25...Internal clamps? another 2,25. .correct me if I am wrong, it would not be the first time, ALWAYS willing and ready to learn.
Don't forget any wire in a wall which backs up to shower or tub needs to be in metal flex conduit. People do screw towel racks and soap dishes to walls.
@@ElectricProAcademy Gotcha, I hadn't seen your other videos yet, but yes I see now where you stated in other videos that if a protective "nailer plate" is installed over the affected area, then you can be closer to the edge.
19:30 Wouldn't it have been nicer to route the cables in the adjacent studspace instead of wrapping it around the water line? (Perhaps even put that receptacle box in that studspace to the left?)
3:48 @Electric Pro Academy Question for ya…. What are your thoughts on horizontal receptacles, outlets, for countertops in bathrooms? I’ve seen some vert receptacles that so close to tile backsplash, that they end up notching backsplash so outlet fits; but if box was horiz, would make room and no notching backsplash, which for me, looks like afterthought and not very pretty at all, and an afterthought is exactly what it is 🤦🏼. So, what would you suggest for bathroom remodel and when space is tight &/or limited? Really enjoy the channel & vids b/c have a great attitude (even when things go wrong, which does happen, but you make a plan and give options & don’t let it bother you), explain things to fellow sparks AND customers for what they can “expect” &/or understand, a very KEY THING TO DO, & have a great detail oriented work ethic; something that can, & can’t ¹ , be taught and details is what can make or break a job, along w/ bad reviews😉 Cheers✌🏻 ¹ say this, as imo, yes can teach ppl to pay attention to details and think ahead and make thing “great”, but only goes so far; compared to ppl who already are detailed oriented and care about what’s happening. And yes, to a degree, this can be a detriment if say spend 5 hrs on 1 single “job” that trying to get 100% and details are 110% etc…. At this point ya gotta know when to stop, and realize there’s no such thing as 100% “right”; as get a room filled w/ 5 sparkies, tile GCs, framers, etc…and ask a question and you’ll most likely get 5 completely different answers 😆, since there many diff ways to do something and doesn’t make 1 right over the other….and so on as this topic can go on for long long time…..
hey I am just in a pre-apprentiship program so I might be incorrect. but I think when you keep saying "8 inches of wire length/12 inches of wire length" "from the box" NEC specifies wire needs to be secured within 12 inches of the box but within 18 inches of the wire length. The 12 drops to 8 if the box connect isn't tight (this is the term I am lacking, please comment if you know how to fix me). I am still learning all my nomenclature but the code ref is 334.30 for the 2020 NEC.
^ just means the staple needs to be within 12 inches, but you can have an extra 6 inches of wire looped in case you don't have a wire stretcher and plans change.
on the two junction boxes in the attic, what did you write on them? And did I understand correctly on that outlet, you put one black on each brass screw and one white on each silver, thus not needing pigtails? Often wondered if this was allowed or if the second screw was only allowed to be used on split circuits where the jumper was removed.
Yes, there is nothing wrong with bringing power onto the duplex receptacle on one pair of screws and continuing the run on the other pair. That's what they're designed for. You must use pigtails if you are dealing with more than two sets of conductors.
why not leave the box an 1/8 inch in the wall the ears will hit plaster and be level to wall anyway it is a pain if box is sticking out too far it is better to be slightly low
This is one customer who is extremely lucky in having your team making it safe! Job well done 🍺🍺
At 20:15 a yellow (12 awg?) and white (14 awg?) Romex are run in/out of a 1G box. What will the white (14 awg?) feed? Thanks!
@@ElectricProAcademy Thanks for the info, appreciate it!
@@ElectricProAcademy I'm still not clear on why you used 12 gauge wire.
Old wire was all white no matter gage till you got to #8
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24:35 Not a 4sq junction box, eh?
You are really close if not over on box fill my friend, please show your math. most regular depth octogon boxes are about 15 cubic inches. i am seeing 8 ,# 12's (8x2.25=18),,,,plus 4 #12 ecgs = 2.25...total 20.25...Internal clamps? another 2,25. .correct me if I am wrong, it would not be the first time, ALWAYS willing and ready to learn.
the first one i am enjoying your videos nice work
Don't forget any wire in a wall which backs up to shower or tub needs to be in metal flex conduit. People do screw towel racks and soap dishes to walls.
good show
does code require clearance between edge of hole and edge of stud?
@@ElectricProAcademy Gotcha, I hadn't seen your other videos yet, but yes I see now where you stated in other videos that if a protective "nailer plate" is installed over the affected area, then you can be closer to the edge.
Yes with exceptions.
19:30 Wouldn't it have been nicer to route the cables in the adjacent studspace instead of wrapping it around the water line? (Perhaps even put that receptacle box in that studspace to the left?)
25:33 Wagos!
3:48 @Electric Pro Academy
Question for ya…. What are your thoughts on horizontal receptacles, outlets, for countertops in bathrooms? I’ve seen some vert receptacles that so close to tile backsplash, that they end up notching backsplash so outlet fits; but if box was horiz, would make room and no notching backsplash, which for me, looks like afterthought and not very pretty at all, and an afterthought is exactly what it is 🤦🏼.
So, what would you suggest for bathroom remodel and when space is tight &/or limited?
Really enjoy the channel & vids b/c have a great attitude (even when things go wrong, which does happen, but you make a plan and give options & don’t let it bother you), explain things to fellow sparks AND customers for what they can “expect” &/or understand, a very KEY THING TO DO, & have a great detail oriented work ethic; something that can, & can’t ¹ , be taught and details is what can make or break a job, along w/ bad reviews😉
Cheers✌🏻
¹ say this, as imo, yes can teach ppl to pay attention to details and think ahead and make thing “great”, but only goes so far; compared to ppl who already are detailed oriented and care about what’s happening. And yes, to a degree, this can be a detriment if say spend 5 hrs on 1 single “job” that trying to get 100% and details are 110% etc…. At this point ya gotta know when to stop, and realize there’s no such thing as 100% “right”; as get a room filled w/ 5 sparkies, tile GCs, framers, etc…and ask a question and you’ll most likely get 5 completely different answers 😆, since there many diff ways to do something and doesn’t make 1 right over the other….and so on as this topic can go on for long long time…..
hey I am just in a pre-apprentiship program so I might be incorrect. but I think when you keep saying "8 inches of wire length/12 inches of wire length" "from the box" NEC specifies wire needs to be secured within 12 inches of the box but within 18 inches of the wire length. The 12 drops to 8 if the box connect isn't tight (this is the term I am lacking, please comment if you know how to fix me). I am still learning all my nomenclature but the code ref is 334.30 for the 2020 NEC.
^ just means the staple needs to be within 12 inches, but you can have an extra 6 inches of wire looped in case you don't have a wire stretcher and plans change.
and that 12 dropping to 8 only applies to a single-gang box afaik
Awesome videos. Can we install PVC conduit under crawl space for 3/6 romex cable. Thanks
on the two junction boxes in the attic, what did you write on them? And did I understand correctly on that outlet, you put one black on each brass screw and one white on each silver, thus not needing pigtails? Often wondered if this was allowed or if the second screw was only allowed to be used on split circuits where the jumper was removed.
Yes, there is nothing wrong with bringing power onto the duplex receptacle on one pair of screws and continuing the run on the other pair. That's what they're designed for. You must use pigtails if you are dealing with more than two sets of conductors.
Photos - excellent idea!
I must’ve missed your explanation. Why exactly are you putting that receptacle in the attic?
Receptacles in door-accessible attic spaces are very handy things. If there's no built-in light, you can plug one in, for example.
10-32 ground screw, not 8-32.
I feel like you could've done a better job, but nice!
why not leave the box an 1/8 inch in the wall the ears will hit plaster and be level to wall anyway it is a pain if box is sticking out too far it is better to be slightly low
“I don't have nine inches, but I've got a little extra.”