What does the increasing recognition of Palestinian statehood mean? | Inside Story
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- Until now, most western countries have maintained they will formally recognise Palestinian statehood only at the end of a peace process with Israel.
But after nearly seven months of Israel's devastating war on Gaza that's killed more than 35,000 Palestinians, Norway, Ireland and Spain say they won't wait any longer.
But the European Union is divided on the issue and larger powers like France say it's not the right time to recognise a Palestinian state.
And a U.S. veto still holds back Palestine's bid to gain full membership at the United Nations.
Will other European nations follow Norway, Ireland and Spain?
And what does this mean for Palestine's efforts to become a full member of the United Nations?
Presenter: Cyril Vanier
Guests:
Yossi Beilin - Former Israeli Cabinet Minister, who initiated the Oslo Peace Process in 1992.
Julien Barnes-Dacey - Director of the Middle East and North Africa programme at the European Council on Foreign Relations.
Carne Ross - Former British Diplomat assigned to the United Nations, who resigned and founded the not-for-profit advisory group, Independent Diplomat.
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Thanks to SOUTH AFRICA who Stood against the Biggest Super Power's! Proudly 🇿🇦❤️
Judging by your surname, Ima assume you're also South African? Totally agreed btw. Proud to be South African. 😊 🇿🇦
Indeed
Proud to be South African.
@@marinacoetzee2751ISRAEL may WIN on the BATTLEFIELD but CLEARLY they LOST the WORLD for its OUTRAGEOUS PROPAGANDA & GENOCIDE! Proudly 🇿🇦❤️
Proudly and loudly, South African!!!
I'm extremely thankful to Ireland, Norway and Spain for standing with truth and justice
So they are now standing with Israel?
You touched our daughters in October 7th - big mistake 🇮🇱💪
very cool hehe
It was narrated from 'Ikrimah:
"Some people apostatized after accepting Islam, and 'Ali burned them with fire. Ibn 'Abbas said: 'If it had been me, I would not have burned them; the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: 'No one should be punished with the punishment of Allah.' If it had been me, I would have killed them; the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4060
Thankful, of what, their stupidity. They can't give away what they don't own. WOW people are slow
@@REALTRUTH2525why are you so mean?
Very thankful and proud of Ireland 🇮🇪 Spain 🇪🇸 and Norway 🇳🇴!!! Congratulations, Palestine, on your way to full freedom!!! Free free Palestine!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ !!!
yeah, free among the rubble
You touched our daughters in October 7th - big mistake 🇮🇱💪
Ireland Norway Spain are not the ones receiving rockets 🚀 so they are irrelevant.
Changes nothing
@@eduardoascher8678Um, no, it does change things. Whether you like it or not, it still does.
From the green fields of Ireland
Peace to u Palestine 🇮🇪🇮🇪❤️❤️🇵🇸🇵🇸
Thank you Ireland from Nigeria 🇳🇬
Thank you Ireland 🇮🇪 from Somalia 🇸🇴
Salut to you , assalam alaykoum🌸
Love you peoples❤️
What you don't know will hurt you.
To recognize officially the Palestine state is the beginning of the real creation of the state
All it takes to become a state is recognition that you are one by enough countries.
Hello!
You're so right!
And It Also Means The Possibility Of israel Stop The Genocide Against A Nation On Their Own Land..
very awesome hehe
It was narrated from Anas that :
'Ali came to some people of Az-Zutt, who worshipped idols, and burned them. Ibn 'Abbas said: "But the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"
Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 4065
@@zsoltlakatos476Two things. You don't know the definition of Genocide. Number two Palistine was offered statehood several times. They refused
because they wanted the extinction of the Jews first.
It's a proud day to be an Irish man
We firmly stand by the side of our Palestinian family.
🇮🇪 🤝 🇵🇸
I saw a clip of Irish parliament when the conflict first began, they've been on the right side from go. 👋, from Texas.
I believe the Irish fully understand and identify with the plight of Palestinians more than any other nation.
@@ID30394 I agree.
Your Irish are a bunch of worsies too. And I heard y'all are ballless too
@@ID30394ABSOLUTELY! THE IRISH HELPED Indians IN GAINING their freedom from British rule.Annie Besant was an Irish lady who was very instrumental in organising the struggle.we still have the well restored "KELLY BUNGALOW " in our neighbourhood..." In 1916, Annie Besant launched the All India Home Rule League. This was the first faction in India that demanded complete independence. The league worked all year round building a structure of local branches and organising agitations. The colonial authorities on their part put her under house arrest for her activities "
Awesome news! Palestinians are people too, flesh and blood, deserving of acceptance!
Acceptance in their own land! How hard should that be????.
76 years of illegal occupation should end now!
But not Israelis or Jews, god forbid.
What about HAMAS? Are they humans too?
Well actually, historically they've said that they only call themselves Palestinians to balance out the existence of zionism, and that they're really all Arabs. So I guess they were indeed already people, just a different people?
@@USER-jo7yz what about israel war criminals?
May Allah bless every nation and man supporting the freedom of Palestinians ❤❤❤😊😊😊
Thank you so much Ireland, Spain and Norway!!!!❤ For recognizing Palestine. Congratulations to them. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks to all who stand with humanity💪❤️🇵🇸☮️
To hear a former Isrli official call the current administration "lunatics" made my day beyond measure.
Proud to be Irish today.
Thank you Al Jazeera .
these three countries deserve praise for bold and wise decision for recognising palestine as an independent state for which Palestinians are entitled
Don’t forget South Africa 🎉🎉
It's bold indeed, but not very smart. Also, this is just symbolism, without any vision.
Israel is getting desperate as their name sinks even lower as a Pariah state
Israel will live forever
@@timothysmart4355 Their sole existence is predicated on the U.S. and its support.
@@ID30394 well fare state. not self sufficient. more isolated... doesn't look good
@timothysmart4355. Lol, Israel is on the way out 😂
@@timothysmart4355the young generation of Americans aren’t the generation in government. When the baby boomer generation dies out in America, America will become a anti Israel state
Recognition of Palestinians land means end of israeli occupation and end of us politics in middle east.
And Joe Biden will be responsible for both.
you are obviously wrong about what they recognized.
Palestine they recognize is west bank and gaza
So why are you still whining about it after it ended?
@@john-yc8ud This issue is far older than Biden smh. Why bring him up in a conversation that has nothing to do with him?
Also congrats to Slovenia and Malta for recognizing Palestine. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
If Russia and China can be full members of the UN, there is no excuse why Palestine can't be a member. If Russia can invade Ukraine and still remain a full member of the UN, Palestine should get the same consideration of becoming a member, even if it's not a full membership. Palestine needs to be at the table, not be a topic at the table, to discuss their future as a recognized state!
FYI Russia didn't just wake up and said they're going to invade Ukraine rather Russia was push to the corner by Ukraine's behaviour in the Donbast region region on ethnic Russians that was supported by the west especially the US led by the Ukrainian woman in America Victoria Nulandand others in the American regime. Stop citing a big power like Russia Federation to justify your weak statement. Free Palestine 🇵🇸, end the occupation and Apatheid. Palestine will be free.
If Israel can be recognized as a sovereign state, Palestine should be too. That disparity shows that the west never intended for Palestine to be independent. Referencing China and Russia is moot.
You should correct your statement. Russia didn't invade Ukraine, Russia is defending its border from US using and leading Ukraine to bring the Nato to Russia's front door.
It was US who started the propaganda that Russia will start a war with Ukraine, and with this propaganda led to Ukraine to decide joining Nato; Russia had warned the consequences.
Russia is also a big and powerful country, so why can't Russia be a UN member? Same as China.
Your example is kind of weird. In fact, all countries should be a full member in the UN, and UN headquarter should move out of US. US don't deserve the right to host the UN HQ in its land. US government is basically the largest terrorist group and leader.
I’m in the U.S. and am a veteran of the U.S. military. You mentioned Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as something that should cause Russia to be expelled from the UN. If that’s the case, the US should be expelled for its 70+ invasions and overthrowing of governments. PS - Russia’s actions were in response to US aggression (NATO expansion). The U.S. was behind the 2014 overthrow of Ukraine’s government.
I like the comparison with Russia, because like Russia, the Palestinian authority are literally terrorists.
“The state of Israel was not created for the salvation of the Jews; it was created for the salvation of western interest."
James Baldwin
The Palestinian children will have a dignified place to grow and thrive without colonial subjugation from so called democratic states. ethnic irradication of palestinians is despicable, and will be abated . The world unites for HUMANITY
You can not occupy people's land and then call some of them terrorists Hamas just because they didn't bend their knee and surrender. Nor you can call yourself innocent civilians because it is not your country to begin with.
You touched our daughters in October 7th - big mistake 🇮🇱💪
A country without people for a people without country.
So what you're saying is you want the killing to continue. Israel isn't giving you any land back.😂
This is absolutely true! Well said.
Perfectly said !!>
Palestine now needs new leadership.
Mahmoud Abbas his clique and what he represents need to go.
The young Palestinian leaders need to step up.
Yes. Abbas is a useless sellout.
Agreed !!"
There is a guy in israel prison. Who is being tortured right now. Pose to be the nelson mandela of palestine.
How some countries could be so cruel to others and think it okay 😢
USA shouldn't encourage other countries to recognise Taiwan if it cant recognise Palestine and their right to have a state
Taiwan is the first line of defence to the pacific front. Israel is then then the frontline to the Mediterranean front
The US has a one-China policy. How are they supposed to be encouraging Taiwanese statehood if they don't believe in it themselves.
taiwan does not need your recognition. they are a country since 1912 to begin with, unlike palestine.
@@pppp-bh8ti and ended (sovereignty) in 1949.
@@timothywcrane nope, because PRC has never set foot once on the land of taiwan.
The PALESTINIANS are LOVING HUMANS NOT hate UNARMED INNOCENT FAMILIES who WANT FOOD & PEACE Thank you 🌹
Hamas is Palestinian and is the same evil as ISIS.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE RIGHT TIME DON'T ALLOW ANY STATES TO STOP JUSTICE for PEACE Thank you 🌹
wow, Europe is waking up to a reality.
Because Europe needs the trade from countries that are pro Palestine. It's a pragmatic move. Also, the electorate in the EU are overwhelmingly pro Palestine hence the EMPs know they might lose their seats in the next election if they dismiss public sentiment.
@OneSixSun UK and US will never agree to Palestine state.
@@Dynamatrix1973They will eventually.
Thank you Ireland, Spain and Norway. You will be recognized along with South Africa as the nations that pioneered Palestinian statehood.
Free Palestine no more apartheid. No genocide
Thanks both three countries for choosing in the right side of history
Ireland 🇮🇪 Spain 🇪🇸 and Norway 🇳🇴 I salute 🫡 you. With countries like these there's hope for the world
A FULL MEMBERSHIP with VOTES Thank you 🌹
US will veto it every time. 😂
"The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was “given” by a foreign power to another people for the creation of a new state. The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their numbers increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty?" ~ Bertrand Russell
In a perfect world hopefully we would have peace, but there will always be people like Netanyahu, Putin, Kim Jon ung etc unfortunately disturbing the peace. People who seek power, money and notoriety aren't interested in peace, only self fulfilment.
They accepted and welcomed that foreign power, and all those before it, so what's the problem exactly?
@@noamto
Perhaps u could look at the situation from the point 👉 of how wld feel if u were one of those people right niw, living that nightmare. Put urself in their shoes. Wkd u want someone to treat u and members of ur country the way Israel is treating term?
@@noamto Perhaps you can show the results of the poll showing who and how many accepted and welcomed the foreign power.
@@ozeight4278
Maybe u cld do that and share that information with others
"You wouldn't need a lobby if there were strategic and moral reasons for a close relationship. Israel is a strategic liability and its behavior toward the Palestinians is morally reprehensible." -John Mearsheimer
I’ve never been more proud to be an Irishman. For such a small country by god we pack a punch. Our history is one of oppression & genocide/famine and we see our history in the eyes of the Palestinian people.
Australian government should follow these 3 countries to recognition of Palestine.
Any country in the world can’t call them as a democratic nation when the majority land were occupied from other peoples.
The land will continue to be occupied. Muslim countries will not welcome World War 3 to save Palestine. Never.
Ireland, Spain & Norway are Three Brave Countries; The US:UK:Israel alliance will threaten & punish them.
They can’t speak to those 3 countries as their Europeans part of the E.U and also their ally’s this hurts israel but the U.S won’t punish them for it as it doesn’t effect them
Bulgaria recognized Palestine as a country in 1989!
@@danielapower1938 Your right recognising Palestine doesn’t really free them even though Norway Ireland and Spain recognised them today it won’t change anything unless a large number of countries come out and do the same and put pressure on Israel right now their pretty much free to do what they want because the U.S.A 🇺🇸 and U.K gave them the get out of jail free card that allows you to commit genocide and get away with it
Yeah the English tried to do it with us Irish for 800 years, it didn't work and the US has a massive Irish community along with their tech companies held in Ireland they won't do anything either. Ireland, Spain & Norway are bigger than people think.
very handsome hehe
Narrated `Ikrima:
`Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn `Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3017
In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 226
Oct 7 is a prison break and not a terrorist act.
Best line yet…..I smell bumper sticker
Totally agreed, a revolution after 75 years of suppression under the Israeli occupation.
You're an idiot.
About time!
Another honourable Palestinian figure is Mr. mustafa Burghoti who has been fighting patiently for this moment. A glimpse of light for Palestinian after 75 years.
It's not the right time has been said for two decades. Get over it already
I think you Need to get Over it, The beginning of the end is near
Recognizing Palestine as a state is long time coming, as it was already Palestine for a very long time
Proper proud of 🇮🇪 right now so glad to be from Dublin and dubliner 🇮🇪🔥🙏👌💪☘️
🎉🎉🎉Respect 🙏
Opinions of the unification of your own country?
This is a great day for mankind , stepping up from ancient religions and going on with humanity ,
the right thing to do
Humanity and 'Religion ' have both done a lousy job and haven`t aquitted themselves in doing the "right thing " ...... ever ! The number of times i`ve heard ....this is a great day for mankind........... only to be disappointed !
Recognising Palestine state means standing up for the oppressed and refusing occupation.. justice for all so all can live equally and fairly together. All life matters, specially more attention is needed to the oppressed ones❤
this the beginning, more countries will follow...
Palestine being a state or not wont change anything.
If the 1967 un status is the basis of palestine, what other negotiation with Israel is neecessary. Israel has no appetite to allow Palestinian state so insisting on Israel agreeing this is to delay Palestinian freedom
Who the f is isreal people do not need to negoiate their freedom
You touched our daughters in October 7th - big mistake 🇮🇱💪
You will never get 1967 borders.
@Dynamatrix1973. I for certain knew that all the Negotiations in America was a CHARADE and that Israil and America had no intention in creating a Palestinian state as they basically want a bigger country in order to create a huge Military Base in the Middle East.
The World will soon recognize the truth ans especially the Students around the world. 1967 move back, destroy or sell what you built on these stolen land and fo.
Negotiation is necessary with Palestinians because they don't accept the 67 borders.
Need more support from Europeans country.
Thanks to Spain, Ireland and Norway.
Ireland has the ear of the Americans
Thank you. Norway, Ireland and Spain ❤
"I am a Palestinian, from 1921 and 1948, I carried a Palestinian passport. "--- Golda Meir
She claims she was misquoted. In 1976 and many other times, she claimed there was no such place as Palestine. " A land without people for a people without land" was her famous quote. She was as brutal and as savij as any other z leader. Perhaps the worst of the worst. That supposed quote you posted is an insult to all Palestinian people.
1. A British Mandate of Palestine passport
2. 1919 Frist Arab Congress: British Mandate of Palestine is southern Syria; we are Syria. Arab words, not Brits, not Jews.
3. 1922 League of Nations: We recognize the British Mandate of Palestine as the ancestral home of the Jews where they can RECONSTITUTE their homeland.
4. The war of 1948 is OVER. The West Bank (an Arab colonial term) was illegally occupied by Jordan from 1948-1967. Gaza was illegally occupied by Egypt from 1948-1967.
5. West Bank residents had Jordanian passports until Jordan abandoned them in 1988.
6. If Palestine is recognized, fine go ahead and build a nation next to, not in replace of Israel. You are no longer refugees (you never were).
John. Golda Meir's statement doesn't prove anything. Palestine was just one of many names given to this land.
The name Palestine was given to the land by the Romans. It comes from the word "Philistine".
Philistines were originally from Greece and came to this land in the 12th century. There's no direct connection between them and the Palestinians, who are actually Arabs (and some might be converted Jews) who lived in this land for a long time after immigrating from different arab countries (egypt, jordan, syria and more)
So yes, Golda was Palestinian from 1921 to 1948, and then she became Israeli, as the name of the land was changed.
This conflict is not about the name of the land.
Hamas doesn't want a a Palestinian state. they want to extreminate jews. It's part of their agenda and it's not even hidden. It's part of a bigger Islamic plan to take over territories that they think they own. Not only Palestine. you will see it in the near future as they will gradually start to control europe.
You guys are missing the bigger picture
@@IB4UUB4ME Enlighten us with your infinite wisdom.
Bulgaria recognised Palestine in 1989
Democracy hummanity values Born again in our life time😢😢
Democracy in a terrorist Islamic state? Or any Arab country?
We tell our kids never to resort to violence as it is never the answer but in the end world history shows the exact opposite. What a rotten mess mankind is !!
I am so proud and grateful of Ireland 🇮🇪, Spain 🇪🇸 and Norway 🇳🇴 for standing up against opression!!! You are all on the right side of history!!!
Thank you so much Mr. Cerrel Daniel for the great analysis. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
It's really heart warming to see these 3 countries recognize a Palestinian state.
Most especially Norway, which is a silent Powerhouse in global diplomacy which has a record untainted by bias!
And these 3 Countries have set the stage for other countries to set themselves free from decades long slavish deference to the whims of the US!
Though many see it as just "symbolic", it's actually a start for many othes coming out!!!
Sincere thanks to all the countries which recognise Palestine. The people of Palestine have suffered enough,they want to live like the rest of us. Free Palestine 🇵🇸.
Good job Spain , Ireland and Norway for your honesty through Palestinian people . May God bless and protect you . Free , free Palestine . God is the greatest ,no one is above him ,he has the last word . 🙏
Outstanding!!!
This is a matter of peace and humanity. We need to come together and heal, not destroy.
People need to become friends. All wars should stop. We need love each other and work together
but there's no talking to palestinians
Its greed 😢
@@saagisharon8595 Pot kettle black!
@@saagisharon8595There is. They've been talking and negotiating for decades. But they don't need to, really. No reason to talk to coIoniaIists, after all.
France when is the right time?
When France discards its coloniser mindset and sees brown people as equal to wyt people.
France is told what to do by the British and the Americans
France is waiting for another 75 years.
France know the root of terrorisms..
Proud to be Irish today. God be with Palestine. Peace to all mankind.
Way to go brothers on humanity
Jamaica, Barbados have also recognized Palestine as a state
Barbados, Jamaica, and Trinidad also recognised them within the past few weeks. Now, the Bahamas is the only Caricom country that doesn't recognise them
The US should be put out of the UN.
The US should stop funding the UN
😀
The US should stop funding the UN.
Thanks for your recognition ❤ other countries should follow this for world peace.
Greetings 🙏
Thank you sincerely Excellency Representatives of Ireland 🇮🇪,
Norway 🇳🇴, Spain 🇪🇸 and the Peacemaker People of their Countries. I encourage other Countries and their Esteemed Excellency Representatives to proceed to do so as well, please. As soon as possible.
Thank you kindly Al Jazeera Journalists.
Thank you all. Please free Palestine from torture 🙏
You touched our daughters in October 7th - big mistake 🇮🇱💪
Viva Norway 🇳🇴, Viva Spain 🇪🇸 Viva Ireland 🇮🇪 we love you ❤❤❤ and we love South Africa 🇿🇦, Brazil 🇧🇷 Colombia 🇨🇴 and all the countries who are supporting the Palestinians against Natenyaho's genocides
One day they will regret . When they come to know the true colour of ISLAM...WITH OUT LIES ISLAM IS DEAD
@@user-kh4wq8pj9iسنرى من يندم في الاخير ومن يبكي في الاخير لانو دائما الذي في طريق الحق يفور وينتصر والذي في طريق الباطل سينهزم وسيندحر وسيذل لا تخاف وتلك الايام نداولها بينكم والاسلام هو دين الحق وسيبقى الى الابد ولو كرهتم ولو كنتم تريدون ابادتنا كلنا لن تستطيعو
@@user-kh4wq8pj9iMe too
Bravo España❤🤝🇨🇷🤝🇵🇸🤝🇪🇸❤
Yay!!!!!!!!
Большое спасибо за Вашу поддержку Палестинцев ❤ Свободу народу Палестин❤❤ Всем мира и добра ❤❤❤
Remembering the thousands of women and children who gave their lives for today's historical event of the support from Ireland, Norway and Spain for a two state solution. Thanks to Germany and France on confirmation of arresting Netahanyu if he steps on their soil. This is beautiful. Netahanyu days are numbered !
Free America from AIPAC
I hope we Canadians can soon join in this wonderful decision.
England promised a recognized state for Israel and Palestine 70 years ago, at the creation of Israel , but only fulfilled one and it wasn't for the host of this new nation Israel.
Of course Israel is furious about this equal rights decision. Only because it will be harder to devour and destroy it's neighbors.
Surprised France hasn’t jumped in yet
They're imperialists as well!
THANK YOU 146 for STANDING UP for JUSTICE to PEACE with the PALESTINIANS again Thank you 🌹
We love ❤️ Palistians ❤from bottom of our hearts 💕 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🧕🤲🤲🧕🧕☪️
Long life Ireland, Long life Norway, Long life Spain!
"There's no question that there are lunatics in this [Israel] government." He's got that right!!! Netty is NUTS!
Thanks to all who stand with humanity. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Tank you for one most great interview.
Finally. It s good to see that Spain, Norway and Ireland choosing wisdom and common sense.
Shame on franc to take this discussion franc should be the first one to stand by freedom , democracy and against brutal occupation
Maybe the wall is beginning to crumble? I really hope so. Palestine should be a free state.
Can’t have US to play policeman and judge always
Yossi Beilin is a genuine, honest person with his humanity in tact.
Other countries should follow Norway Spain in Ireland. God bless your hearts.
Thanks to Ireland, Spain and Norway.
Ireland Norway Spain 🎉🎉🎉
Standing for truth justice humanity
Year after year and for 75 years, the US, UK, and Israel have always said it's not the right time to recognise a Palestinian state.
Great initiative for humanity. They are standing with humanity great.
LONG LIVE PALESTINE LONG LIVE ISLAM LONG LIVE OUR MUSLIM UMMAH INSHALLAH ALLAH BLESS OUR MUSLIM MARTYRES
Why did they announce that "they will recognise" a Pelstinian state? Why not announce outright that they DO recognise a Palestinian state, already effective immediately? Groveling for Israel are they? What are they waiting for?
There is a light after the darkness . Yes. Free Palestinian.
We sre happy free free Palistians 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸Ireland 🇮🇪 Norway 🇳🇴 Spain 🇪🇸 we are happy safe Palistians they suffered for long ❤❤❤
Thankfull to those countries recognising Palestine as a State. I believe more countries will follow.