Why camcorders are shaped that way

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  • @LongLongHoneymoon
    @LongLongHoneymoon 9 місяців тому +4

    I'm glad someone out there is touting the benefits of camcorders. This is a great niche. Many (if not most) people who get interchangeable lens cameras would be better served by a good camcorder.

  • @mK_Dx
    @mK_Dx 10 місяців тому +34

    I can appreciate the integration of 3d renders into the videos, even if its just for few seconds. It kinda goes under the radar the little nuggets of effort that goes into these videos.

  • @RaffyTaphy
    @RaffyTaphy 10 місяців тому +3

    This channel is such a gift. Currently working through your audio videos. Thank you for everything!

  • @xjet
    @xjet 10 місяців тому +2

    Camcorders for the win!

  • @HoundDogMech
    @HoundDogMech 9 місяців тому +1

    The Best CamCorder I ever Owned was my Canon XL-1 and the Lens was all external. too bad there wasn't a Digital Add on to replace the MiniDV Tape.

  • @ShinyTechThings
    @ShinyTechThings 10 місяців тому +19

    Very interesting on the lens mechanics. I always wondered this but never looked into this.

  • @Jwitherow1964
    @Jwitherow1964 10 місяців тому +1

    Yahoo your right I like cam reorder more now,

  • @lungsofironofficial
    @lungsofironofficial 10 місяців тому +1

    I love camcorders! I used Panasonic camcorders on the first three Enchanter videos. I also shoot in 1080p! Thank you for what you do.

  • @isaiahbradwell8942
    @isaiahbradwell8942 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank You!!!😄

  • @ourmundo
    @ourmundo 10 місяців тому +4

    Camcorders are amazing and fun to use. You helped me appreciate it so much more!

  • @EKAdventures51
    @EKAdventures51 10 місяців тому +2

    I love my Sony 405, best camcorder for a hike, bike ride, travelling, fast opening, good stabilization

    • @mySeaPrince_
      @mySeaPrince_ 10 місяців тому +1

      Have you found the second battery compartment...
      405 club😻

  • @DougFresh
    @DougFresh 10 місяців тому +1

    Never looked at it that way... great!! ..always learning

  • @gabithemagyar
    @gabithemagyar 10 місяців тому +2

    Camcorders also typically do not overheat as easily as ILC-s, have great ergonomics for video, have superior stabilization and are more compact when it comes to the zoom range. They did not used to be great at taking photos but perhaps that has changed in recent years ? Camcorders are great for filming outside events or events in good light.

  • @LikeTV
    @LikeTV 10 місяців тому +5

    Markus, I'm wondering why they don't make camcorders with a full frame sensor?

    • @LikeTV
      @LikeTV 10 місяців тому

      By the way, I record my videos on a Panasonic HC-VXF 990. But it has a 1/2.3'' matrix. I tried to shoot shots with a candle in the dark with it and of course I got a lot of noise.

    • @leifsoederberg
      @leifsoederberg 10 місяців тому +1

      The real answer is probably just a lack of demand for something like that. It would have to be MUCH larger in order to get anywhere near the zoom range that the smaller ones do.
      My guess is companies figure that most people wanting to buy a camera that big, heavy, and expensive would probably also want interchangeable lenses, and would then opt for a cinema camera.
      I’m with you though. I would love a larger sensor camcorder. Even an apsc or Micro 4/3 sensor would be awesome. Unfortunately, camcorders just don’t have the demand they used to. Most prosumers/youtubers are used to using the photo bodies now. Camera companies are already struggling to stay afloat, as people have shifted to using their phones. So, they probably wouldn’t be willing to take the risk. 😢

    • @ebinrock
      @ebinrock 10 місяців тому +1

      Physics and cost. Best compromise is probably going to be your pro or semi-pro 1-inch camcorder, which can still get nice bokeh under the right conditions (distance, zoom, etc.) and some can even shoot 10-bit 4:2:2 and log for cinematic quality (Canon and Panasonic have such models). And you can still get up to 20x zoom ratio in those 1-inch camcorders.

    • @WalkaboutClient
      @WalkaboutClient 10 місяців тому

      Sony did for a while with the NEX VG900

    • @LikeTV
      @LikeTV 9 місяців тому

      @@WalkaboutClient That's interesting! I looked everywhere, but for some reason I didn’t come across it anywhere. Thanks!

  • @GB-AK
    @GB-AK 10 місяців тому +1

    Good to know.

  • @MileyonDisney
    @MileyonDisney 10 місяців тому +12

    Thanks for the cool info. I've always preferred a camcorder for video.

  • @Localtraveler2376
    @Localtraveler2376 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video. I had never thought of that.

  • @ryobiman
    @ryobiman 10 місяців тому +1

    Enjoy your videos they are always informative!

  • @TRwalks
    @TRwalks 10 місяців тому +2

    I have a Panasonic vx1 and v180. I use them for travel wildlife. One time I almost had to pay extra for my carry-on bag being overweight with a 150mm - 600mm lens. I also use them as a second camera for my UA-cam. I like to get closeup b-role of cool far away stuff. I appreciate the work you do with your videos. Thanks.

    • @productreviewstv812
      @productreviewstv812 10 місяців тому +1

      Consider adding the JJC remote control so you can zoom without handling the camera.
      I've reviewed it on my channel.

  • @gordon3988
    @gordon3988 10 місяців тому +1

    “Have you ever wondered why camcorders are shaped the way they are? Of course you have.” Followed by an chuckle and a😊 Not a day goes by without me wondering this! Nicely done!

  • @drglencoleman
    @drglencoleman 10 місяців тому +1

    Helpful. Thank you!

  • @Goomer
    @Goomer 10 місяців тому +1

    Agreed

  • @kmoecub
    @kmoecub 10 місяців тому

    I recently came across your Chanel after dusting off a Kodak model 35 and buying a roll of film (I had been searching for a user manual because I had bought it at an estate sale, and hadn't used a film camera in a long time). I switched to digital in the late 90's after my Canon AE-1P was stolen, and have been using a Canon G10 since 2009. I really like how you present, and how straightforward you are about the pluses and minuses of the cameras that you review.

  • @simonatterbury
    @simonatterbury 10 місяців тому +1

    LOVE Camcorders, for HD B Roll, still have a thousand year old Panasonic SD900. Pretty much the same as the AG-AC8EJ which was more client friendly as was bigger and more external bells and whistles but no different in terms of quality. Filmed the last ever Shuttle launch in Florida on an SD 900. Not only great video (shame about the low cloud base) but flipping awesome on camera audio.

  • @johnsaucerhunter
    @johnsaucerhunter 10 місяців тому +3

    Now if we only knew of a quick and easy DIY fix for us Zoom Lense owners to clean those particulates out Mr. Markus, then that would really be something. Have been enjoying your camcorder series of tips and tricks and I tip my hat to you Sir for all the fine information.

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz 10 місяців тому +1

    There have been also a number of pocket compact cameras which have a zoom lens without external moving parts, arranged as a periscope lens. The front element is a mirror prism and is fixed, sensor is fixed, several moving elements in between. A lot of lens bulk in extending lens cameras is only there to bulk up and secure the mechanism, and they have none of that. The high degree of symmetry in periscope lenses also makes for excellent chromatic compensation. Underwater pocket compacts by Nikon and Pentax use this construction today, and there used to be several more brands with those.
    Some of these similar design principles apply to camcorder lenses, just higher optical power and no folds.

  • @ChristopherThomasVillano
    @ChristopherThomasVillano 10 місяців тому +1

    How come it took me 53 years to hear this

  • @chriscutress1702
    @chriscutress1702 10 місяців тому +1

    A great explanation of what happens inside a camcorder and why they're shaped the way they are. As always an education. Thx

  • @draxxicek
    @draxxicek 10 місяців тому +1

    Camcorders have more sensible and modern design, because they were made entirely as a new product. Unlike digital cameras, which are still for some reason mimicking the shape which historically evolved to accomodate for a film reel to go horizontally from one side to another and to have a prism above it. The film reel is long gone and so is the prism with the mirrorless cameras, but they still retain the basic shape, which I find extremely funny.

    • @mySeaPrince_
      @mySeaPrince_ 10 місяців тому +2

      And when being used by the newspaper press make loud electronic click noises...

  • @bluenoser1567
    @bluenoser1567 10 місяців тому +1

    Great topic as I look over at my Sony Handicam that I haven't used in about five years and sits collecting that dasterly dust. Well, I guess I should use it without hesitation now that I know it is just a beautiful big sealed lens that is just waiting for me to use. Super video but the audio seemed a little other worldly to me .... Cheers Markus

  • @findJLF
    @findJLF 10 місяців тому +1

    I actually had wondered why!! Love your content Marcus.

  • @agentbey
    @agentbey 10 місяців тому +3

    Ready to learn something new.

  • @ModMax69
    @ModMax69 10 місяців тому +1

    I really liked this video, Markus. Thank you for sharing it and I always look forward to the next!

  • @businessexcellenceeu4631
    @businessexcellenceeu4631 10 місяців тому

    There are also historical reasons for the design. The design of the camera dates back to the days of film cassettes, and later film tapes, and the mechanics were attached to the side. This was the benchmark for the form factor that is now ingrained in the DNA of every filmmaker. Today, the space inside is perfect for monster lenses.

  • @dennis1954
    @dennis1954 10 місяців тому +2

    I stumbled on another MarkusPix video the other day while searching for iPhone 15 stuff and glad I did. Immediately subscribed and watched a few other MarkusPix info packed creations. I’m definitely rethinking my opinion on buying a camcorder. Many Thanks!

  • @BillDubeVariety
    @BillDubeVariety 10 місяців тому +1

    Manly manner... ROFL Great video... Love my Canon Camcorders... Yep dust and hair on my other lenses too... Bought used... Love your lens cleaning video too.... Thank you. Sealed and ready for the world is great. TY

  • @davidmac42
    @davidmac42 10 місяців тому +1

    Cool video Markus- never knew that but makes total sense!

  • @craigw.scribner6490
    @craigw.scribner6490 10 місяців тому +1

    Great explanation--thanks, Markus!

  • @PaulLaTorresPhotography
    @PaulLaTorresPhotography 10 місяців тому +2

    I always learn stuff from you. Thanks.

  • @bugsythetwin3022
    @bugsythetwin3022 10 місяців тому +1

    I look up to you so much, I am not raw food or anything, but how you say you build things in master level time and the way you speak about art, thank you for doing this and please don’t stop you have inspired me to stop hiding and show the world my art thank you so much for doing UA-cam when you do not have to. 100% my favorite artist to listen to on UA-cam. Please don’t quit

  • @SMGJohn
    @SMGJohn 10 місяців тому +1

    I think its safe to say a lot of us do miss the camcorder, its just superior to shooting video with.
    I do remember there was so many weird early digital cameras that tried so many weird shapes, the one I liked the most but just cannot remember the name of was shaped like a square box, but the lens was at the long end side, so they stuck the lens on the longest part of the body and had the sensor sit in a L shape allowing for maximum space utilisation in such a tiny camera, why cannot we have compact cameras like that anymore??

  • @fiveable
    @fiveable 10 місяців тому +4

    They go "eennnh ennh enh enh enh enh"! 😂

  • @ryobiman
    @ryobiman 10 місяців тому +1

    You should make a camcorder & camera video for private investigators. Low light and night time video is always a challenge.

  • @SceneOfAction
    @SceneOfAction 10 місяців тому

    I love you Markus. You really make us all think about the beauty of what we have and how to appreciate it!

  • @TheChefBlog
    @TheChefBlog 10 місяців тому +1

    Very cool Markus!!! Just when I think I got it down knowledge wise, I watch one of your videos and I realize I don't know anything. LOL Thanks again.
    🙌🤙

  • @wolfgangk1
    @wolfgangk1 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow.... who would've thunk

  • @DirtyDovi
    @DirtyDovi 10 місяців тому +1

    Great breakdown Markus!
    And thanks for the 'reminder'! . . . [I have a zoom-lens that I have to tear down and rebuild]
    *Maybe I'll finally take that task on this or next week. It'll be nice to get 1 back in action. 👍

  • @Fotznerwin27
    @Fotznerwin27 10 місяців тому

    My 1999 Sony DCR-PC100 looks quite a bit different I thought. But now that you said it, it's actually round at the lens part. The whole tape compartment takes quite some space below that lens mechanism but it's essentially just like modern camcorders. Just a lens with a tape compartment down there.

  • @H.pylori
    @H.pylori 10 місяців тому

    Never thought about the reason, but makes sense. I have seen videos on the dust issues with the pocket camera zoom lenses. Thank you. One learns something new everyday.

  • @MikeNovelli
    @MikeNovelli 10 місяців тому +4

    3:19 I don't know if you want to make that hand gesture while talking about such manly extensions.... 🤣

  • @TomuCow
    @TomuCow 10 місяців тому +3

    Hi Markus just wanna say i love whenever you talk about camcorders. I just wish the camara industry shared your passion as we barely get any these days :( And i am scared they are next on the hit list like the compact.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 10 місяців тому

      It's sales based, no one really buys camcorders anymore, why would they? They have tiny 1/2.3" sensors smaller than modern smartphones and they are way overpriced. I like my VX981 but it was $800. For $800, you can get an APS-C camera with a WAY larger sensor that shoots higher quality video, especially if you go used. You can also get a great M43 setup for less than $800 and still get a significantly larger sensor. To get people buying camcorders again, it would take something like one with a 1 inch sensor that shoots 4K60 for like $500, which won't ever happen.

    • @TomuCow
      @TomuCow 10 місяців тому

      @@michaelbell75 sensor size does not always mean better video quality. no apsc camera i have used beats any of my panasonic camcorders for video quality unless it is in lower light situation. not to mention the lack of image stabilisation on most apsc which makes them useless for video imo.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 10 місяців тому

      @@TomuCowtrue but I have a Panasonic VX981, an FZ50 and an FZ200. I’ve also owned several Panasonic M43 cameras, so I am very familiar with their products. The 981 only shoots at 72mbps in 4k30 which is not great quality. Meanwhile, my Canon R50 that was $150 cheaper with a significantly larger sensor shoots 4k30 at 170mbps and the video is significantly better quality. Not to mention the optics on mirrorless lenses is much better than on camcorder lenses. So those are just a few reasons camcorders have died out. Mirrorless cameras are quite superior for video in every way.

    • @TomuCow
      @TomuCow 10 місяців тому

      @@michaelbell75 I guess it can be just personal preference for me the wobbly unstable look of mirrorless camaras just instantly kills it for me... If you could recommend a mirroless camara with stabilization of a typical camcorder then i might even consider buying it.

  • @astroimagers
    @astroimagers 10 місяців тому

    Markus's wisdom on videography is like Scotty Kilmer of cars. That's a compliment. Subscribed!

    • @MarkusPix
      @MarkusPix  10 місяців тому +1

      He's quite a character! Maybe I'll wave my hands but Im not wearing sunglasses 😄

  • @davefink2326
    @davefink2326 10 місяців тому +1

    The first consumer video cameras were shaped that way because they used zoom lenses borrowed from 8 mm movie cameras that had been around for a couple decades.

  • @te369amo
    @te369amo 10 місяців тому +1

    And the biggest advantage of the camcorder is a silent zoom, most of the cameras for photos make some noise, when you zoom in or zoom out.😀

  • @OpenAirOutdoors
    @OpenAirOutdoors 10 місяців тому +1

    I love my Panasonic Camcorder, and I have a question! What is the best mic for it? As you know the mic has to supply its own power, I have trouble getting top notch audio! (outdoor content)
    Thanks
    Marc

  • @VinaVC
    @VinaVC 10 місяців тому

    Markus, I chanced upon your post researching new mini-broadcast studio equipment for our international team. You are definitely the "go-to PRO" when it comes to the tools we need for anything a/v related. I join the others who appreciate your considerate, valuable and highly informative tutorial. Bravo!

  • @DeithW
    @DeithW 10 місяців тому +1

    You're completely right, but I find it strange to illustrate the point with the weather-sealed RX10 IV :)

    • @MarkusPix
      @MarkusPix  10 місяців тому +1

      It still pulls dust in when the lens retracts

  • @davidbethke5701
    @davidbethke5701 10 місяців тому +2

    Dusty Pecker is a Lens Wrecker

  • @Weider63
    @Weider63 10 місяців тому

    Great explanation Markus! I really enjoy learning something new from your videos! What do you think about Nikon ZF and Leica cameras?

  • @krzysztofg2145
    @krzysztofg2145 10 місяців тому +1

    Whaaaaat ?! :D Nobody ever told me that! I didn't expect camcoders to be such brilliant engineering devices. Thanks for valuable information.

  • @JimHassey
    @JimHassey 10 місяців тому

    Another great video. Thank you. 👍

  • @ebinrock
    @ebinrock 10 місяців тому

    I would actually love to see more companies make camcorders like JVC's ProHD line, where it's shoulder-mount and interchangeable tactle lens, but much smaller and easier to handle than an old Betacam.

  • @MikesManCave
    @MikesManCave 10 місяців тому +1

    Now that makes sense, I have that Sony Camcorder, they are great. Also explains why the battery is hanging off the back, I was wondering why Sony did that.

  • @ChristopherThomasVillano
    @ChristopherThomasVillano 10 місяців тому +1

    ❤❤❤❤ I never knew that that is so cool. Thank you for sharing that.❤❤❤❤❤ I love ❤️ ya brother

  • @FacesOfLA
    @FacesOfLA 10 місяців тому +2

    Would love to see you do some reviews on hi 8 or DV camcorders. Maybe even using Panasonic HPX 170

    • @cb2000a
      @cb2000a 10 місяців тому +1

      Like the Canon XL-1. Canon made some great Hi-8 and DV camcorders.

  • @marianozisa
    @marianozisa 10 місяців тому +1

    semplice ma non lo sapevo, grazie - simple but I didn't know that, thanks

  • @holycrapghosttv
    @holycrapghosttv 9 місяців тому

    I do appreciate your information Iam sticking with camera recorders. Thanks Markus 👍 😉

  • @juhaaavalaakso455
    @juhaaavalaakso455 10 місяців тому +1

    And you can put protector in front of the camcorder.

  • @LEARNINGCHORDS
    @LEARNINGCHORDS 10 місяців тому +1

    I love my 6 year old camcorders from panasonic....

    • @sdrtcacgnrjrc
      @sdrtcacgnrjrc 10 місяців тому +1

      What model/s are they?

    • @LEARNINGCHORDS
      @LEARNINGCHORDS 10 місяців тому

      he just posted a video on camcorders...@@sdrtcacgnrjrc

  • @Thwumpus
    @Thwumpus 10 місяців тому +1

    Cool! I never really thought of it that way. It makes me wonder if i should have gotten internal zooming lenses.

  • @haroon420
    @haroon420 10 місяців тому +2

    Wow!! I really thought you were gonna bring out a vhs camcorder and say design is a legacy of those cameras.
    Learnt something new today 😊😊😊😊

  • @sclogse1
    @sclogse1 10 місяців тому +1

    I think the operative word is LINT.

  • @DelCampoProductions.
    @DelCampoProductions. 10 місяців тому +1

    Great quality!

  • @OtakBolong
    @OtakBolong 6 місяців тому

    It's cool markus, to see someone so passionate about something!

  • @Eugene-X.Periman
    @Eugene-X.Periman 10 місяців тому +1

    My Panasonic HC-V260 is not a camcorder, but a tiny telescope with video recording features (50x optic zoom)

  • @spudwas
    @spudwas 10 місяців тому

    Wow.....I never thought about that!

  • @rmika9229
    @rmika9229 8 днів тому

    @MarkusPix do you have any recommendations for a camcorder good for music concert? Affordable

  • @Jones5121
    @Jones5121 10 місяців тому

    not to mention all the little gears and guiding slots inside most compact camera lenses

  • @VoleShow
    @VoleShow 10 місяців тому

    And camcorder lenses are parfocal, meaning they maintain focus throughout the zoom range. So you can zoom in, focus and then Zoom out to set your shot without the focus changing. This is possible because of the smaller sensor. Most large sensor cameras don’t come with parfocal zoom lenses as these are very expensive, cheapest new zoom lens start at $1500. The better large sensor parfocal zooms are usually over $5000 for 4x, 10x approaches $15,000.

  • @PhillipGarza-i6d
    @PhillipGarza-i6d 10 місяців тому +1

    So it all comes down to growers and “show-ers”…. Makes me want a big bad camcorder

  • @360.Outdoors.Videos
    @360.Outdoors.Videos 10 місяців тому

    Inlove camcorders too dear friend ! ☀️☀️

  • @mohammadyasirkhan2709
    @mohammadyasirkhan2709 10 місяців тому +1

    Thts informative

  • @Elvis_Pond5
    @Elvis_Pond5 10 місяців тому +1

    Many professional photographers own that Sony RX10M4 📸
    (FUN CAMERA!)
    Sample images from that camera seen at DPReview are some of the best images seen from any other camera made.

  • @NickAndTech
    @NickAndTech 10 місяців тому

    Does it make sense to wipe down or clean the extended camera lens periodically?

    • @MarkusPix
      @MarkusPix  10 місяців тому

      Every chance you get.

  • @bigjay1970
    @bigjay1970 10 місяців тому +1

    The fact that before watching this video I could care less and now I actually care is a testament to Markus!🤔🤯😬😇

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi 10 місяців тому

    Very interesting! I never thought of that before. Makes perfect sense.

  • @radiozelaza
    @radiozelaza 10 місяців тому

    dust became the death of my LX10, when the dust spots became too apparent on photos and videos with no way of removing them even at fully opened aperture :/

  • @ReparadorAficionado
    @ReparadorAficionado 10 місяців тому

    And the other thing about those camcorder lenses is that they are optimized for video (focus and zoom are smoother, for example, lenses don´t dance while doing the focusing or zooming), while on photo cams the lenses are optimized for photo, (they don´t care much about the video stable zoom or focus).

  • @michaelbell75
    @michaelbell75 10 місяців тому

    Yep. This is one reason I really like my Panasonic FZ50. It has a lens that doesnt extend and it has a real zoom and focus ring. I really that the power zoom toggles because zooming is never smooth and its just a terrible experience. They need to bring back those designs with the non extending lenses and zoom rings. It just feels much more organic and its smoother. I'll gladly sacrifice the 150mm on the tele end if need be.

  • @d4fredffw
    @d4fredffw 9 місяців тому

    Markus you are the man

  • @ShinyTechThings
    @ShinyTechThings 10 місяців тому +2

    Sony made a E-mount camera without a screen thats similar, i don't remember the model number and its still kind of expensive. You use your phone to see the image.🤔

  • @jeremymolinari6597
    @jeremymolinari6597 9 місяців тому

    I watched this ready to hear the obvious, what a pleasant surprise! Really fascinating, thank you for posting!

  • @borderlands6606
    @borderlands6606 10 місяців тому

    Every fixed lens camera I've ever used including camcorders, gets dust on the sensor sooner or later. The most ergonomic shape IMO, was the Sanyo Xacti.

  • @ggeimer
    @ggeimer 10 місяців тому

    Do you know of any camcorders that can be operated with your left hand for someone without a right hand?

  • @TheGrandstreeters
    @TheGrandstreeters 10 місяців тому +1

    Often when I watch a fellow vlogger using a DSLR they are holding it by the lens to balance it. Just so much easier to hold it there than an awkward body. Why don't they just develop a cam out of that lens - oh wait - they did! Thanks again.

  • @taqx
    @taqx 10 місяців тому

    Thank you!!you are the best!!sir!!!

  • @MuhammadRifana
    @MuhammadRifana 10 місяців тому +1

    My lx100 broke because of dust

  • @photobyTaps
    @photobyTaps 10 місяців тому

    Thank you. I'm planning to get the 8 oz 720p Samsung F90

  • @ADAtrips
    @ADAtrips 10 місяців тому

    Good teacher , Thanks 🌴🌴Aloha

  • @AbDaniel21
    @AbDaniel21 10 місяців тому

    super cool !