TMM Explains Basics Of Tekken Defense
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"In order to understand Tekken you need 15,000 wins and 10,000 losses"
I never thought those words I read 10 years ago would be so accurate
Thats 25000 matches im not even half way there lol
What if i get 15000 losses and 10000 wins? Or 17000 losses and 8000 wins
Source?
That's a 60% win rate.
I wish I was that good...
The quote isn't in reference to overall winrate lol
Offtopic, I tried to teach my roommate Tekken yesterday.
He straight up picked Law. What should I do? He might turn out to be gormless.
Tekken 7 Fat Katrina and Josie Death combo
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side step him.
Kill it before it lays eggs. We don't need more Law players
Law is ALOT of fun! 3+4,4 and DSS shenanigans are among the best moves in the game :) I like Law.
@@disruptor6550 I just got demoted by 2nd dan from one yester day. I hate that character
The fact that this game is hard makes it so beautiful. Every match is different, there is so much to learn and explore, and that's why it never gets boring. I've been playing T7 since release and I only learned 2 characters during all this time simply because it takes so long. So there's like 38 other characters left I still need to learn. This keeps me motivated and ensures many more years without getting bored. That's why Tekken is one of the best games ever!
i want learn jin so bad but takes too long
@@Makneuro07 Just take your time. It takes ages to learn a character but it's worth it. Main thing is not to give up, just keep practicing
@@Makneuro07 I get grip with Steve by my ownself within 1 years playing 3 hrs everyday. Keep practicing!
Agree...this is the only game that I think “I’m gonna go home and try out alisa or panda” just because I saw a streamer or pro use them. Sure as shit I don’t think about doing that with sfv with cammy or birdie.
Abram Little Jin is such a beast once you learn him though
1:57 'What happens if I hold back? Heihachi retreats like a person of his age.' This cracked me up so hard. Sad truth is, not just him, every character retreat like Heihachi's age. I hate it so much, just the visual aspect of it. Look at how badass Negan does his walk back. Can't they give a unique, better looking walk to every character?
Swedish man comes out of closet and admits he's a "huge tekken nerd". The crowd goes mild.
Applause?
@@spiritualopportunism4585 more like nods of acknowledgment
The complexity is what makes tekken so incredibly interesting though. It's like an endless journey, which is why you keep staying interested in it. The journey is the fun part of learning anything, and when the journey ends, you move on to the next thing. So please don't make tekken easier namco lol
Very interesting concept indeed. But the very depth of knowledge required to excel at this game is what makes the game so dang awesome. The fact that no 2 matchups are ever the same makes for fantastic replayability. Not to mention the brilliant and intuitive gameplay mechanics (RD and screws a such cool mechanics). Tekken 7’s gameplay is by far the best in the series so far. They’ve managed to find the perfect balance across the board.
Tob 23i7 yeah it’s all well and good until you go online and have to constantly play 3 bars (and lower) and constantly experience frame drops and dsyncs. On top of that if you’re a new player and don’t play LC, Eddie, Katerina, Bears, etc the game becomes virtually unplayable because there’s no baseline online experience. The fact that there is no tutorial only amplifies these problems exponentially. This all on console btw, I know PC is a way better experience.
Tekken is a difficult game, true..
But you guys are exaggerating..
After playing Virtua Fighter 5FS i realised that Tekken compared to VF is a cake walk...
In Virtua fighter there are many different combos for all of the characters..
- left foot/right foot stance
- fuzzy guard at -3
- fuzzy guard at -5
- sideturned game after successful stepping, sometimes u get 3 extra frames, sometimes 6, depending on the power of the moves
- special rule in which attacks always beat throws, doesn't matter at what frame disadvantage you are
Etc etc etc
Believe me, Tekken is not that difficult as some think
Kain 1 Lol well stick to VF then. No one made that comparison, but to up and say we’re exaggerating is pretty bogus in my opinion. I don’t know VF I’ll give you that, never have (never will) lol. But please leave the conversation to those of us who only play Tekken among other fighting games. You just sound like an elitist right now lol
@@Tobi_237 Tekken has been my fav fighting game ever since T2, I do play Tekken and will keep doing so..
but doesn't mean that i should behave like a fanboy, i'm going to express my opinion if there is something I don't like..
- Movement in Tekken t7 got nerfed so is the execution (Paul demo man, drag WR2 pick up combo)
- T7 has easy to play chars: Claudio, kata, noctis to make the game more acceptable to new players
- The characters lost personality, Kazuya had 7 wins poses in t6, now he has two...
Harada has appealed to casuals and to me, t7 is defo not the best tekken game...
You said that you wanna talk only about Tekken so i talk only about Tekken..
Kain 1 Very well then, your opinion of the game is exactly that, YOUR opinion. Sure I too hate the brain dead characters that are so easy to pick up and get good with, but after a while you begin to see the flaws in these characters’ designs and as a Raven loyalist I eventually got the better of their cheap moves. I never liked T6 or TTT2 so my opinion vastly differs to yours. T5 was my last Tekken really and my second favourite after 7 (T3 being my first ever Tekken and now my 3rd favorite😅) And I agree the story and overall content of T7 is below standard, the GAMEPLAY is just awesome in my opinion and that is what really matters.
You could go on for literally hours on the fundamentals of defense for different situations and you wouldn't even scrape the surface of it, it's a game where you're always learning every damn day, which is why so many of us still play it religiously. Never a dull moment in it. Thx for the video too btw mainman.
What TMM is true, every character has a specific way to be dealt with, every player should know this (especially the new-comers.)
Easier said than done, try that against lab characters
I'll keep it short and concise for improvement.
1.) Learn how to block hell sweeps (Combos that start with a slow low attack that are easily converted into a launch) Trust me when I say this can single handedly give you wins most hell sweeps are launch punishable learn your punish options from getting out of crouch (while standing moves).
2.) Experiment as you fight new matchups if you don't experiment and are constantly getting hit by a particular string or move it's better to get hit while gathering information. Aka mix in crouching in your defense and see what moves you can duck.
3.) Learn basic punishment so if someone uses a move that you think has a lot of recovery time use your shortest punishers and build it up from there.
4.) Don't forget how to enjoy the game it's pretty complicated and although I hover around yellow I've stolen some rounds from people significantly better than I am and the same can happen to you. Everyone's human we make mistakes laugh at them and you'll get better quicker with a positive outlook.
I don't think the number of moves is a huge problem. Most players don't even use half of their movelist. The problem is that many moves have specific or even weird properties that makes them hard to understand and deal with, like crushing properties, variable pushback, highs that look like mids, mids that look like highs, moves that have to stepped/walked or backdashed (two things only advanced players can do) etc. Just look at Noctis who has a quite compact move list filled with very unusual and annoying moves like d/b+1+2, f+2 or d/b+2.
Tekken 7 Fat Katrina and Josie Death combo
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Keep up the good work TMM. This is one of your best videos I have seen yet.
Wish u made this video when I started playing tekken it would speed up my learning process great vid manmain
Great discussion and great choice on the KoF music.
By the end of the video, you weren't talking about Tekken players, you were describing Smash players.
Nice video MM. I,ve learned a lot from you. I hope you all luck in the future.
Seriously? Speedkicks makes a practice mode video, Sonicfox makes a hour long footsie video then MAINMAN hits us with the DEFENSE. Fuck what a week! Thank you!
Nailed it when talking about mastering basic movement in this game. Tekken is a difficult and deep game. It's addictive though.
Damn. You didn't have to roast me like that with the Tekken pro description
I have a question for u it involves a combo. I can't seem to get the part where the bound is. its EWGF, d+f+3,3 ,1 ,1, d+f+1, 2 , f,n ,d+f+3, 1. are u able to do it if so that would be great and if u can or u dont have time for this just notify me. Also, this is on ttt2 sorry for the trouble
edit: its for kazyua combo
well explained
What a b/tch that donation guy 5:52 , Aris literally said search on my UA-cam channel those words , cause is to long to explain
Nice vid btw
What did he say
Just started playing TTT2 (i played 3 days ago and really enjoyed) im a mono kunimitsu and i want to play defensive looking for punishes, i can do some combos constantly like using a attack to launch the opponent up and then use the setsunagake(i just call it dash) + B(xbox) and catch it mid air, but i just feel like its impossible to block some attacks, specially the attacks that hit low and then hit middle right away (eddy/christie has been a hell to play against)
The skill barrier is astronomical, and learning the game only really begins after some of those barriers like movement and learning your character. But when you finally get there it feels super rewarding
I loved the Bryan/Kazuya comparison.
In tekken 8 what if they remove the db input from the kbd I feel like that could make it beginner friendly or if they increased the walk back speed kinda like in sc6
Very informative video and great advice as always from the sage of tekken, the main man. But...I would have to disagree with you on your thoughts about simplifying the KBD for T8. This is first tekken since 3, I’m a green rank Feng and I’m barely getting the kbd to work. It took me a good while and I think that’s a part of earning your stripes for this game. If I wanted something easy I’d play dbfz with their auto combos.
It can still be a challenge, but I don’t think learning to backdash should feel so monumentally difficult like learning an instrument.
The game is still incredibly difficult even after you learn KBD, EWGF, wavu wavu etc. Tekken will never be easy don’t worry.
Jesus, I forgot how much it takes out of me playing this game. I don't know how streamers can keep putting down good matches for hours at a time.
Still apply two years later? It does for me. I swear after an hour and a half I start to get burned out and realize I'm on auto pilot.
So in a nutshell do pratice at your best pace, experience comes with time and so does the fun increases
If Harada only sees one video from you, this should be it. KBD is one of the main reasons that separates the casuals from "pros". As they dont want to spend countless hours just to learn movement they just drop the game.
It could stay, and kept as a superior version but normal backdash needs a speed buff IMO
Just a slight buff to normal backdashing would make it feel so much more fun, it’s not like you couldn’t still quickly catch up and hit someone dashing anyway.
Its not a thing that differs. People with good backdash can still suck balls. I can KBD all day long since Tekken Tag on PS2 (using wavedash method, gladly i dont play sway character, in fact most of oldachool mishima players can KBD like crazy) but i still get my ass handed to me by stupid flowcharts of for example 3bar Lili due to lag, my poor Lili knowledge and things that are something new for me like moves that absorb damage or walls where i have no idea what to do. You can enjoy this game dont knowing thing about framedata just mashing buttons, and you can enjoy it if you are insanely good. But this game makes people suffer on level that is between those two. Like playing musical instrument - you only have fun when you dont know what you are doing, or dont have to think about what you are doing. When you think hard about things that you do - you suffer.
Lucky for Steve, I can just counter kbd with albatross spin punches
Meanwhile with hitbox you can do "flawless" KBDing by alternating between pressing two buttons while holding a third. Legit all you need to do is to hold back while pressing d,f,d,f,etc
TMM, I really appreciate your knowledge of tekken as well as kazuya. I have been using kazuya since tekken 2 and it has been very challenging. After 20 plus years I have know become aware of movement and knowledge of other characters. U r right though bout the time u have to invest in order to b good in this game. I just wanted to thank you for your knowledge and your videos
Lol that math part had me dead 😆
The defence is very important in this game especially when u used a defense character
Im learning Asuka and I can’t deal with pressure 🤦♂️ she’s not my usual style of play and it’s proving to be quite difficult to win matches. I kinda freeze while playing and am focusing on blocking which makes me late on punishments and unprepared when I land a launcher and I’ll drop the combo. That being said l, I love the challenge
The thing I was always wondering regarding KBD was if it actually was something in the game that was intended to be there. Cause before players were playing Tekken for years and did not know you could actually move like that.
It's not meant to be in the game it's just tech.
it's not meant to be in what game idiot? it's clearly meant to be there atm that's why they are keeping it
It's a movement tech. It's founded. It's similar to other games tech like if you press the square button twice in RE4, you'll kick the door instead of just open it in default.
It's useful for zoning and to whiff punish.
@@chevychelios4672 That's not what tech means....
Lol.. I liked the blurry effect at 5:55 :)
Kbd should stay, screw the mash back idea that’s completely retarded. The reason that even exists is because you can cancel any movement into any movement which is why mashing back one direction doesn’t work. Learning to kbd isn’t hard at all, it takes a couple mins to learn and get it consistent. Over time it will evolve and you’ll do it better and better. This game is already helping casuals with Nocbitch, Katarina, Rage Arts, etc. (Rage Drives I’m fine with cause some leave you with a combo after which can take execution and some award reads like King catching left or right roll on ground for harder knockdown) so keep Tekken how it’s been for years. It’s always been hard and movement has never changed, don’t let these sudden newcomers destroy the franchise and destroy Tekken’s identity when it’s been fine the way it was for years
Totally agree. It's a tech. Also every character has their own movement.
Holy shit everyone in this comments section saying KBD isn’t hard has amnesia. You didn’t learn consistent KBD “in a couple minutes” stop it.
Edit: unless you mean the pseudo bb,d version, yeah that’s easy. But I don’t even put that in the same bucket as a true KBD. You’re playing a totally different game if your opponent knows the real version.
KBD definitely should stay but the execution needs to be easier as a *fundamental* mechanic. Still challenging, but not impossible feeling for newbies.
The Casual's Back Dash (a favorite of mine):
b, b, d (or) u, repeat.
XD
I feel personally attacked
Its a misconception among people new to fighting games who thinks fighting game is just a guessing game
Agreed.
Laughs in sfv
Tekken 7 Fat Katrina and Josie Death combo
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Only half of it is guessing lol
I wanted him to touch upon this. There's no escaping guessing entirely, but in my opinion good defense is minimizing the amount of guesses you have to make, or at least lowering their stakes.
Removing kbd would be a bad move. All tekken needs is a tutorial and replays.
Just make the execution a little bit easier. It’s too fundamental to be as difficult as it is.
To be fair all fighting games have that element of sometimes the lesser player wins. Fighting games lean heavily on two things, the turn based nature of frame data and the RPS mind game. The executional hurdle tends to be just a hurdle and has been getting smaller. You can't really make up for your lack of matchup knowledge with execution. There's no out just-framing anyone like how you can out micro or out aim someone in other games. A good player could lose some FT2 sets vs a worse player when he would never lose a FT10 set.
Tekken defence? Is that like the Wookie defence?
"This is Kazuya, his dad threw him off a cliff as a child and now he's the incarnation of the devil and wants revenge. That does not make sense..."
MainMan for tekken player who is the best stick or pad i play tekken 4 years on pad and naw i want to play on arcade stick how i can learn arcade stick quick and fast
There is no easy way around it bro. Especially if u r transitioning to arcade stick. U just have to learn how to move or input directional inputs from the scratch on arcade sticks. And believe me, arcade stick feels soooo much natural and better! U wont regret oicking it up ;-)
If Tekken 7 had more customization options and learning tools it would be so much better. Tag 2 had more customization options, replays of your 10 recent matches and replays of your friends. This way you can review/coach yourself. As much fun as it is to learn Tekken, some of us have jobs so even if we're willing to put in the effort there is simply not enough time
Finally someone actually explained why KBD is a hindrance to newbies. I like this man.
As someone who can kbd almost perfectly on the left side but who makes imperfect as hell right side kbd, I do think smashing back should at the very least be slightly better. It shouldn't be the difference between a turtle and a rabbit, backdash spam should still be a viable option to retreat just not as efficient as kbd which rewards you for cancelling the animation.
Check your own character movelist. Every Tekken character has their own specific movement, like several can do backflip, fly, dodge etc.
@@chevychelios4672 I play Bryan along other characters, so learning the b,db,b kbd form to avoid backsways has been a goal of mine since start, but I know what you mean.
@@IliasMWr Yeah. Newcomers just need to learn from their character movelist if they don't feel like to learn kbd. Kbd is tech for all characters.
Maybe in a video titled "basic", you know, a video where newcomers and people trying to improve would watch, don't exaggerate the difficulty to the point where it's just ridiculous...
Besides, you don't have to learn every damn move in the game. There's a lot of similarities and rules in Tekken, stuff like orbitals or hopkicks. All you need is a good grasp of those rules and maybe memorise the exceptions if you wanna go the extra mile.
It seems like every match I’m in either someone’s fucking spamming every single frame or somehow reading every block before I even do it and hitting me, no matter what if I block low they throw a high kick before my character even starts to crouch and vice versa, I’m getting really fucking frustrated
I have to disagree with the backdashing. Sure u can make it easier but I think that's what sets the game apart from casual and competitive. I played league for a long time and my favorite champ ( riven) required you to be able to cancel animations. Once they got rid of that and made it easier I quit lol
My sidestep game has always been weak. Il step after jab and get launched 70% of the time
KBD should be kept until Tekken 52. It is one of the things that seperate the good players from the scrubs.
Whats kbd?
Oh never mind ita Korean back dash just noticed lol
That's just because we all put a lot of effort to get good at moving; you wouldn't defend that complexity if you picked up a chapter of the series with simplified movement. You would instead think that moving was overcomplicated in the past.
In what other game have you ever tought "moving is too simple, this game is bad"?
Agreed. Kbd is one of tournament skills besides perfect punish, mind game, and champ mentality
Edit: Also Kbd is like a Tekken persona.
It's also one of the things that keeps new players from experiencing the game beyond BS pressure strings and quitting.
you are meant to be slowly backing up but people took advantage of the game.
That's right, there's nothing to "be done" about kbd if it technically doesn't exist since it's merely an exploit of back dash and crouch.
I think kbd is super cool, but is just super necessary. And I mean. This exploit has been around for a while. In previous tekken installments. So I think that theres gotta be a middle ground for the devs to hit. You should be able to back dash way faster, but make kbds give an advantage or some kind. Maybe it just moved you back faster as it does now. But make that playing field a little smaller than before
Haha, Canucks suck
But isn't that cool
@@kaiheaton4858 lol
I'm absolute shit at this game, but i wouldn't want to see it downgraded because of it.
+1 on kbd take. It should just be b,b,B. Back run.
Hey can you teach is how to play an effective geese cuz I just sick with him
Keep practicing for muscle memory, watch some pros and see what options they like to use, and play some people online or in person and you’ll feel more competent every day
@@2000Doriyas will do thx
Tekken 7 Fat Katrina and Josie Death combo
ua-cam.com/video/dJbfma6FsVo/v-deo.html
I remember when tekken took skill now every body smashing out for wins online and plugging for rank when the lag don't work everyone looking for the easy win
Tekken 3 had the best and most fair gameplay. Took genuine skill but was still accessible.
5:40 damn I'm sorry, get help soon Adrian.
But he has wilhelm
4500 * 5 = 2250
I want him to be my math teacher. No more complicated big ass numbers haha
22500🥴
tekken players have good memory
Don’t remove KBD, just take some of the edge off of executing it.
How can any player you find to fight against has 5 bars? All players in high ranks have perfect wifi? 😂
Main reason I'm giving Tekken a break and considering making it permanent. Defense in this game is just ridiculous and counterintuitive in many ways.
I disagree with mainman in that he thinks that they should make kbd more simple by just having to mash backwards.
I believe they should make things easier to learn and also to make that content super easily available.
Harada since season 3 of T7 has shown that he is more open to investing in this line of thinking with the frame data release.
Hopefully the dude just goes balls deep and brings all the oldheads of tekken together to post educational videos on an official Tekken youtube channel
and/or website
Kbd isn't even that hard
If someone can't find the dedication to spend a few hours learning how to then they won't be a long term tekken customer.
Its not hard but tedious
A few hours? Look at you.
Be careful what you wish for. Soul Calibur is what happens when Namco tries to make a game more accessible. I don't think it's worked out very well.
what do you mean, sc was always like this and never had any difficult movement
@@TheMidian46 They still made changes to the game to make it more accessible. They reduced the number of moves, added reversal edge, made guard impact window larger, etc. So if they do the same treatment to tekken movement what do you think is going to happen? It's probably not going to increase the player base.
I genuienly don't understand what's hard in KBD, it's an extremely easy series of input, same for wavedashing, what the hell is hard about those? I can do them without ever messing up, i could do that after 15minutes of training, i don't understand why people say it's hard...
Are you talking about the true KBD or simple bb,d bb,d version? True KBD is way faster, and not easy at all.
because of korean backdashing
i get to the higher ranks
especially with jin for genbu (right now i used to be stuck at green crap ass rank and searching for tips how to improve it)
because of korean backdashing i learned anything about fuzzy guarding because most moves that im strating against was strings and cheezy freakin lows (i didnt punish it properly sometimes because jin has t rex arms when punishing law cheezy lows and that is probably b+3,34? i think?)
A Tekken player doesn’t cook his own food.. *Gets coffee from his girlfriend*
Seriously though I can listen to stuff like this for hours. I’ve been requesting a video describing the basic match plan versus the typical online version of the entire cast.
I do think they should make some movement easier. Bit I think they should expand the moves waaaay more! I think stances should be capitalized on way more. Like 10 stances per character which independently are a way of fighting.
Eddy
People kick up such a stink over this stuff. I have no idea what’s the big deal, just b4 and you’re good.
I also play Miguel.
-btw, Can you do this?-
-ez-
_of course_
@@xianyee3321 -gj-
No I can't
-I can't-
6:15 you have this game it's called soul calibur :3
1) Tekken = The hardest 3D fighting game= Movement (Wavedash, Backdash, sidestepping) are fundamental things but hard to do.
1a) Virtua Fighter = The 2nd hardest fighting game imo = An argument can be made for number one....it is arguably the most balanced 3D honest fighting game ever.
please see Why Virtua Fighter is Deeper than Tekken ua-cam.com/video/zr4lYtoqWB0/v-deo.html
3) Soul Caliber= The 3rd hardest fighting game = The 8 way run makes movement very fluid and open. The movement makes probably the most sense in 3d space. The execution is not too hard...yes there are just frames for certain characters. VF and SC could be argued which is harder...
4) Dead or alive = The movement is thee most fluid overall in 3D fighters.....the sidestep function was introduced in doa5...the execution is the easiest.
Removing these barriers will result in a boring game though, it will the all be about attacks and all the law players will rejoice while every Mishima players’ collective groan will kill all the polar bears
Why is it always the law players goddammit, I feel that law is really hard to play in the late game, because of his strict timing and dss cancels. Like give me one reason that people are mad about laws.
Kuuhaku Nai Law players got a bad reputation in general, character is annoying
@@PlanetBreakcore I find the most annoying character in the game to be jin honestly. And I have multiple reasons. But when it comes to people who hate law, there is no reason.
@@sageofthepsychopaths341 there are 50000 reasons to hate law
Luminethereploid I think you misunderstood, I meant law players will be happy as the game will be easier for them and Mishima players will groan as all the work they put into movement is useless, we both are in agreement though 😂🙌🏼
Avoiding The Backdash
where is the line when KBD should be made more accessible for beginners but the hitbox cross up is too cheating
6:23 NO, that is one of things that separates the boys from the men
22500?... Underestimated complexity for competitive Tekken players...
Tekken is good because it’s hard
Korean backdash is not an official technique, it’s just exploiting back dash and crouching animations to get an endless backdash loop. It is a very useful unofficial technique but imo finger gymnastics isn’t worth learning just to move in a game, but it feels like a necessity because movement in Tekken is strange: it’s so vital to gameplay but the standard movements are animated and control like garbage.
Tekken 7 is already a lot easier than previous titles in the series.
Nyquiiist That is a lie. Tekken 1 through to 5 was easy as hell. 6 started the noticeable complexity spike and Tag 2 was just obnoxious.
try doing combo juggles in t2 or t3 fucking lier
Chevy Chelios Yes, kbd has different levels of usefulness on a character by character basis when considering their movement animation and move set but it remains as an unofficial tool most exploit because general standard movement in Tekken is bad, it needs to be redesigned so as to have more fluidity and responsiveness. I’ve reached Tekken God online without even learning the unofficial technique, and I’m not wasting my time doing it either.
@@adercader1 Although it's not official. It's a tech. It's founded and can be learned. It's been there since forever. It's like a Tekken persona. Same as other game tech like in RE4 where you can press the square button twice to kick door to open it quickly instead of just open it in default.
The dev already redesign the generic movement from previous game. It's generic. That's why I said you need to learn the specific character movement if you don't feel like to learn kbd. Kbd is all characters tech.
I use Steve so I can counter this tech with albatross spin punch. I can just albatross spin punch them if they're doing kbd. I pretty much only need zoning if my hp is less than the opponent. Other than that, I keep attacking them so I don't give them chance to kbd.
its pretty much impossible to learn all the punishes
They need a damn counter or escape from juggling omfg. I hate it
A combo breaker in Tekken could be really interesting
3:55so you one of those guys search just to cancel douche 😲
Making Korean backdash easy to do by just mashing back would be a horrible decision and completely ruin the game. I hope TMM isn't being serious when he says this.
2nd
Imagine tekken being easy? It'll get boring
first
Main man was the first one to view this video logically so don't proclaim to be the one who viewed this or commented on this video
Joseph Goebbels fuck man im sorry, u are right
1ST.
Fuck you
@@dunkelheit8594 thanks! Fuck you *too* boi.
ye they shouldn't remove backdash cancelling, I LOVE that tekken is a hard game. We hardcore fans love tekken for what it is, if casuals can't get good at this game then they should play some other easier game.
I totally agree. I'm a casual player stuck in green rank but even I wouldn't want the game to be easier. I enjoy watching Tekken matches because pro players have high execution and seeing them pull it off is awesome.
street fighter 5 says hi
Tekken is not a game imo. Gta, RDR, Cod, Fifa.. Those are games. Tekken is ridiculously complex and hard, Tekken is a sport, a discipline, not a game.
A discipline AND a game, that’s what’s beautiful about it.
Ikr I wish they wouldn't have added armor moves and rage art with a for noobs the long RA animation is uncalled for just gives them a chance to ragequit
they just need to trim the fat when it comes to move list. No need to have 100 moves per a character.
Hell no if you suck use shitty character with no moves don't take from good characters because your trash af
you have garbage and wrong opinion
No. A character loyalist like me can use all the moves to mix up my offence. I don't use only several moves to attack or to open opponent. Playing unpredictably is my way.
This game is shit there is no fun playing it just makes me rage and get frustrated no matter how skilled iam let alone the fact you have to pay a for a new cherecter to lab there bullshit
plz no mash backwards for bdc, would be boring.
Tekken 7 Fat Katrina and Josie Death combo
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Ikr let's see how lame we can make the game for scrubs
I partially agree with you. Although kbd is a good skill for defense, most pros play Tekken too safely. They just need to back away with kbd and whiff punish the opponent.
I think this skill is such a huge thing because in competitive play, most players play side by side. They can see which button is hit, that's when kbd takes place to whiff punish then just full combo opponent.
It makes the game boring to watch.
That's why lilmajin is hype to watch. He actually takes the advantages of movelist, not just kbd, he jaguar step and using big frame data movelist to offend opponent.
Same with Arslan who plays so sticky to chip opponent's hp while still punishing opponent's wrong move.
Or Rangchu who plays so bold that whenever the opponent is within Panda's range, he will make sure they will eat Panda's attacks.
The similarity of these players is they are character loyalist and they play boldly.
A complicated movement system doesnt make game harder, it kills fun and reduces potential playerbase. A better player will always be a better player, and it doesn't matter if game is simplified or not. I've been playing Tekken for 20 years since Tekken 3, and I've learnt about korean backdash just a couple months ago when started playing online :) I managed to get Genbu rank with Xiaoyu, but I still cant do backdash cancel properly. I love this game, but I want Tekken 8 to be more friendly.
Just look at Street Fighter: movement is simple, moves are about 8-9 per character, but the game is still very hard and popular though:)
There is the reason why it is hard to move in tekken...the one who controls the spacing controls the match...thats why koreans are the god bcoz they know the importance of spacing..they will not make the spacing easy if they will..the game will lose its class...the advanced tech. are supposed to be hard e.g ewgf, otgf , korean backdash , just frame moves , etc ...otherwise play the cheesy way like using strings, jimmics , setups, lows but an high level player will always beat the cheesy player.
I ran into a 4000 win genbu yellow bar Xiaoyu on PS4 the other day. I wasn’t surprised he was a Genbu despite playing like a green rank.
@@Evilj82 i think they have downgraded the rank system..to motivate all the players...now yellow ranks play like green or blue ranks
nice try, capcom shill
Disagree. Kbd is tech. It's founded and can be learned. If you don't feel like to do it then mix up your attack or learn your specific character movement. Ling can do backflip and roll forward.
This game is trash
@@dawudmumtaz3232 he got beaten by cpu ofc.
I totally agree they ruined tekken with this one
Rage art / rage drive and armor moves killed the brand in my opinion and I'm far from trash or a scrub so save the comments tekken get here since tekken 1 tekken 7 is trash
@@dawudmumtaz3232 says the guy who play w noctis gtfoh
@@tatmanmyownbossdannydraco i can agree with rage art, but armor moves make sense since in real life certain attacks go through other attacks. not all attacks immediately stop the moment you get poked in a real fight.
they could have refined the armor move system though, such as only going through weak/medium attacks. but it's not a bad (unrealistic) concept.
but they did give some thought into it that lows can cancel armor moves.