Our protagonist Hifumi was killed by Hifumi, thankfully Hifumi, the ultimate Hifumi solved the case with the help of Hifumi, fooling the plans of MonoFumi.
@@ordinarylittlebastard3248 Kirigiri: now i am the new protagonist Togami ghost: much better Hifumi ghost: oh, come on she doesn't have an ahoge Kirigiri: (ahoge pops up) huh look at that
You just made a really interesting AU doing this, especially with the prospect of a Junko who apparently renounces despair. I could see her as the Togami role to Kyoko, treating it all as fun & games... until losing her sister as described shows her the toll of true despair for the first time in her life.
Working from another comment of mine, this could tie in to AU Kyoko's character arc as well. The key Mukuro's case would be Kyoko building empathy for Mukuro and realizing the same traumatic emotions that she's feeling is what led Mukuro to commit suicide. So now, having grown into a more empathetic protagonist she can connect with Junko, pulling her back from the despair of her sisters death and gaining an unexpected, powerful ally.
@@notanotaku1101 the Ultimate Analyst. Just imagine if in this universe, Junko held the Ultimate Fashionista title AND the Ultimate Analyst title as well. People would probably be too scared to even think about killing her.
I always felt like Mukuro had a lot more potential as a character than what she was used for and absolutely loved the Danganronpa IF novel. If she wasn't chained to her sister like she was during the Danganronpa 3 anime then I could absolutely see her being independent enough to try building a real relationship with Makoto who was one of the few people that didn't treat her like the emotionless killing machine she pretended to be. Unfortunately, opening up your heart to someone in a killing game can be a fatal weakness. The same girl who survived multiple wars without so much as a scratch could still die from a wound to her heart...
I can't believe you made a scenario where Togami actually had the balls to kill someone after talking a big game for the entirety of DR1 and then never doing anything
Honestly Togami’s Strategy was pretty good, he made himself the biggest suspect at all times and in the process insured that no one would try and kill him because of that fact
So, while Hifumi being a protagonist and instantly dying is hilarious, I realized that it actually could work... Hifumi and Toko have a small rivalry in THH, the animation, and Danganronpa S, mostly due to how similar they are, and yet how they differ all the same. In a scenario where Hifumi is the protagonist, and needs development, Toko may be the perfect character to pair him with, focusing on their similarities. Of course, they both have trouble trusting others, and dislike one another's forms of writing, so I see their rivalry persisting... For most of chapter one. But I can also see them becoming close just before he dies. And seeing as Toko is the mastermind, this brings up many possibilities resulting from the mixed emotions of having her worst enemy/only friend die. It's not perfect, but it could make Hifumi's death important beyond an admittedly hilarious joke.
Okay, thing I realized: with Hifumi being the (decoy) protagonist, and Toko being the mastermind, that's the two narratively based characters set at odds to each other from the outset, even if only one of them knows at the time. So what about this: what if Toko's alternate personality in this AU isn't just a bloodthirsty maniac? What if she shares Toko's love of storytelling, but this version of her doesn't want to confine herself to the page. She wants to see real stories play out with real people, and in order for that to happen she needs conflict, and so she starts the killing game. That could be why Hifumi ends up being the first victim. Toko's alternate personality would see him as someone that sees the world in narrative tropes, and thus is concerned that out of all the students he would be the one that could catch on to what she's doing. This could also feed into why Hifumi is the decoy protagonist in the first place: his narration could note all sorts of little things that only would matter to someone who thinks of things in terms of storytelling, and only make sense when you get to the last chapter and realize that's what the mastermind was doing all along.
@@USELESSDCK that's what I was thinking. Like maybe he's the only one who twigs to AU Aoi's nice girl persona being all an act, since that's literally the kind of person he expects to meet anyway.
@@notanotaku1101 He could just say something like “Oho! You’re too nice Asahina Chan! I have realized your true nature! You’re a siren trying to kill us all, aren’t you!? Just kidding! I bid you adieu!” and Hina would nearly have a heart attack at how on point his joke was.
Asahina secretly being a conniving, manipulative “airhead” athlete checks out with her talent, actually. The swimming world can get pretty cutthroat: there’s a whole lot of sharks in the water. 🦈
That’s kind of makes Asahina a siren. A siren a beautiful yet very deceitful woman of the water. A siren, using her looks and falsely kind words, to hide her true predatory nature. Hina luring others to their doom all for her own benefit, just like a siren.
See the interesting thing with chapter four remaining a suicide just for Mukuro is that in this instance, Junko is still alive. She can probably do what Asahina did and try to make it look like a murder, refusing to let her sister’s memories be tarnished by being weak when she was a soldier who’s fought through worse. Not so much to throw the blame on anyone else, just trying to salvage that image of strength that she had for Mukuro.
That would be such a good case and trial too, with Junko being a very good planner and manipulator. I think that could still be part of her characterization, I figure she would be one of the core participants in trials, I picture her having a role somewhat similar to Kirumi's in V3, being this very intelligent person with a seemingly uncharacteristic talent, who creates an extremely elaborate scenario for a powerful reason. And we would get to keep Junko too! Because she would be innocent. She'd still be a fan favorite for sure.
Side Arc for Fukawa : She was still hesitant to continue the killing game, but when her beloved togami made the first move, she clicks and ultimately decides to commit the whole scheme
I feel like Hifumi is possibly one of the best characters to be the first victim protagonist. To start with, thanks to his personality many of the others will probably dislike him, increasing the roster of suspects. Also i think it would be nice if him and kyoko start to get along, by being both kind of outcasts. That way we have character development for both and when he dies we have a reason as to way she becomes the new protagonist. Also, a protagonist who doesn't remember their talent? I wonder, why does it feel so familiar?
Interesting enough, the chapter 4 incident works really well with Kyoko being the protagonist: After chapter 3, both Kyoko and Mukuro are depressed because of Makoto's death, with Kyoko trying as hard as possible to hide her depression. Mukuro however cannot deal with the depression and takes her own life. Having similar feelings is what makes Kyoko realize that Mukuro took her own life and helps her solve the case and realize that she needs to move on from the incident, otherwise she will end up like Mukuro.
You could also tie it into a character beat of Kyoko learning to articulate and manage her emotions rather than ignore and suppress them. When the key to the case isn't a decisive clue, but Kyoko empathizing with the victim on an emotional level, it would be a great synergy of large scale and small scale storytelling.
@@notanotaku1101 what would be even better is if the one you played as while you were investigating the scene was Junko herself, and Kirigiri is the main suspect because she is completely and utterly catatonic throughout the entire investigation just… staring at Mukuro’s dead body with absolute despair on her face, and you played as Junko utterly tearing Kirigiri apart until we get one of those character switches like we did with V3, where she monologues in her head about how she needs to pull herself together so that everyone can survive, and she resolves to carry all of the deaths like Makoto did up until he died, and never bury her emotions again, because she might have been able to save Mukuro if she was willing to talk when she looked like she needed it. She would then have her first ‘Super Saiyan Hope Transformation’ and utterly destroy any opposition to the fact that Mukuro committed suicide in minutes. She would end the chapter by wondering if Makoto would be proud of her, before realizing that she will never know the answer to that question, nor does she need an answer. She would still be utter trash at expressing her emotions at all, but maybe a good Junko would help her, or at least try to?
@@michaellane4054 oh thats such a good idea! Would give a great chance to get in the head of AU Junko and show what makes her tick, since I expect she's either masking her true self like she does in the original DR or else is just so openly nihilistic that it's useless to try and get anything out of her in a conversation.
@@notanotaku1101 I think that she would ACT like she does in the Canon Universe, but doesn’t really take it too far. During Chapter 4, she would just stop acting because her sister needs support and she’s actually a good sister, but it’s obviously not enough, so in her despair about not being good enough to help her sister and seeing Kyoko just… there, makes her SNAP, and she just makes the class trial a fucking mess while pretty much making everyone else realize that it was a suicide, yet she still won’t stop yelling at Kirigiri. This would actually lead to the finale of this Kirigiri’s character arc in a much more organic and noticeable way like it was done in V3 with Shuichi. From Chapter 5 onwards, Junko would just not act anymore because “it got boring”, so she would still be a little bit of a tsundere, but almost all teenagers are like that to feel like adults.
My take on this: Chapter 1: The game starts out as Hifumi. Instead of the kinda gross dojinshi-artist we know from the actual game, the inner dialogue focuses more on his insecurities in order for the player to feel sympathetic towards him. Thus, when he dies, it comes as a real shock to the player and really lets them know the severity of the situation. The game switches to Kirigiri as the protagonist, because she quickly takes over the investigation, as she still has all the skills of a detective, even though she doesn't know she is one yet. Togami is found out to be the killer, having murdered Hifumi in a bout of arrogance (and worry for his butler), thinking himself so far above the others that he thought he could easily fool all of them. I would also like to point out that, since Makoto dies in chapter 3, Taka could make a great "Best Boy". His passion for order and rules could make him a great aid in investigations and his steadfastness could help the less charismatic Kirigiri keep everyone focused on the goal. Chapter 2: Honestly, I can't think of anything better than you did. Chapter 3: Leon dies in reverse than he actually does. That amount of money would allow him to leave behind his baseball career to pursue music. Thus, he chooses the naive airhead as his victim, except he underestimates just how physically fit Aoi is. She manages to defend herself and kill him instead. It even would have been the perfect kill and she'd have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for Makoto's strange luck. It's always "misfortune, immediately followed by fortune". He stumbles upon the crime scene by complete chance, at which point Aoi, still in a state of panic and shock, kills him as well. Yes, that's very unlucky, but it is also lucky, because his death leaves clues behind that Leon's didn't, allowing Kirigiri to solve it. Chapter 4: Mukuro was closest to Makoto. She isn't used to being close to people, except for her sister. Usually, she keeps a professional relationship with those she fights alongside with, so their inevitable death doesn't hurt as much. This time, she did, though. Additionally, she's used to everyone she fights with being on the same side. But now someone like Aoi killed two people, her perhaps-boyfriend included. She realizes that everyone is on their own side and there isn't anyone she can trust. Yet she's become friends with these people. The reveal of a traitor pushes her over the edge. She can't handle the thought of being betrayed again and losing yet another friend, now that she's actually let herself care for people. So she decides to kill herself. Chapter 5: I thought your idea was really good. Would also be a good way to reveal all the other information that is revealed in episode 5, since everyone is on a manhunt for Kirigiri so you kinda have to sneak about the hidden parts of the school. Chapter 6: The killing game is Genocider's final. Y'know, the exams where ultimates have to prove they're actually the best at what they do and they've been improving to stay at Hope's Peak. While not technically enrolled, Genocider obviously wants to prove that she's the best serial killer out there. Her next step would be driving others to kill as well, not just killing people herself. She needs to find what makes them tick, what buttons she can push to send someone over the edge. That's why she gives people motives, because every good serial killer needs a motive to kill. It also makes a lot of sense with Kirigiri being the protagonist, because who is a serial killer's greatest enemy? The detective trying to hunt them down. Thus, this game would be much less focused on hope vs despair, but more truth vs lie like V3. Also, Mondo and Taka would absolutely replace Sakura and Aoi as the "totally not gay for each other" couple.
You know what would be twisted in Chapter 3? Mukoto Death wasn't Intended and was a Mistake that was Caused because of a Bump causing Mukoto to be Knocked into Something that would've Killed him. This can really be Gut-Wrentching since Aoi may have panicked from Leon attack and accidentally killed him, Panicked even more, Running out of the Scene that would've been impossible to figure out who was the killer-IF Not for Mukoto Super Bad Timing to be also stacked into her Kill. And I'm betting with A Dozen Dozen Donuts that she would've broken because of the Kills that she didn't want to do.
@@roboplayer5133 I can see Asahina Aoi breaking down at the end of the trial or near the end of it, and during most of the trial she’s unusually quiet and doesn’t speak up as much as she did during the previous trials, too nervous to say or do anything, and denies everything when Kirigiri starts pining her down as the culprit until she eventually breaks and admits to it, and Sakura could defend Hina at first, but at the end of the trial she finally admits that Hina is the culprit, much to her heartbreak. God, Sakura’s reaction to Hina’s execution will be gut-wrenching.
Having Hifumi be the protag before investigation 1 could work quite well, since it gives time for the player to be introduced to the cast with someone less aloof and grave, before the torch is passed to Kyoko. It would also mark a shift in tone for the narrative as a whole, going from one the goofiest in the cast to among the most serious.
You could also do what V3 did with utilizing Kaede’s point of view. However instead of dropping subtle hints of her killing Rantaro, we see how the 1st murder happens because we are playing as the victim. Being able to see how the murder plays out in real time might give more clues and gives the player some clues that only someone like Kyoko would also know about because of her Detective skills.
I feel like a good idea for Sayaka's trial is that she tries to blame everything on Kirigiri and Monokuma is helping her. Maybe during the first half of the trial, the other students already manage to find out she is the culprit, but Monokuma intervenes and starts just throwing false evidence, so the rest of the trial is about trying to prove that Kirigiri couldn't have killed Celeste.
@@michaellane4054 Until Kyoko pulls a *Miles Edgeworth* à la the *_Ace Attorney_** series* and *demands to move for a mistrial* right there on the spot...
@@michaellane4054 ☝ *_"IGIARI!_** / OBJECTION!"* ☝ - *Miles Edgeworth* You *_don't_* know *what a mistrial is?!* *(slams desk)* Have you never even *_bothered_* to *look up on how the judicial system works?!*
Unconfirmed theory: Kodaka spins a wheel using his ultimate luck power to best determine what devastates us more. This theory was last seen getting executed by Monokuma.
That was a trip. The roller-coaster of emotions from "Chihiro Protagonist?!?!" to "Hifumi protagonist :(", then totally rolling with Hifumi as the protagonist until he's the first victim was top notch. The chapter 2 Chihiro killer worked fantastically as a parralel to the canon chapter 2. Honestly every chapter worked pretty darn well.
for this version of chapter 5, since the mastermind is actively trying to get rid of Kirigiri, I think it'd be interesting if Kyoko herself has no clue about this, and to an extent, the player as well. The rest of the students aren't allowed to tell her about the first blood perk as it'll lead to their own death, so I can imagine having this dynamic relationship between Kyoko and the rest of the cast, some trying to kill her meanwhile some trying to save her without telling her directly what's going on. Maybe Monokuma even created a fake motive for the cast and the player have to find out why the cast reacted differently than imagined. I can imagine Junko probably taking a very heavy toll after her sister's death, and instead of going through the despair route, she would just feel hollow. She's supposed to be able to predict anything, having her analytical skills, now she feels like she doesn't know who her sister is, and to an extent, herself. So in this chapter, she's mostly just coping with that fact. I can see her being an antagonistic role like Togami up until that chapter as well, so maybe while Kyoko and the player can be so focused on her difference in personality, that could act as a distraction from Sayaka's and Celeste's stalking. I can also imagine Sakura, who has a close relationship with Asahina coming to terms with who to trust here. She'd probably have a similar development to the original Taka (if he wasn't killed off rip). She'd be distancing herself in chapter 4 and after seeing Mukuro's death, she came to realized that she can't just stay distant all the time. Both she and Mukuro are 2 very strong women and having Mukuro kill herself because of her depression of losing someone to the very person Sakura cared about can be a wake-up call for her to move on. So in this chapter, she decided to help save Kyoko and her way of helping can be by keeping her always in the company of at least a few other people. She's still distant, but she tries her best of keeping Kyoko alive while trying to overcome her own trust issues. I love Taka so my hypothetical au for this Taka can be that he's the one who is actively trying to save Kirigiri. I can see him being the support character like the original Kyoko. Taka would actively always follow Kyoko around, and that may cause the player and Kyoko to feel suspicious over Taka. Something that the fanbase often forgets is that Taka is an extremely smart dude and he is the ultimate moral compass, sure he's somewhat antisocial, but he's not dumb. Maybe the whole time of this chapter Taka is the one who's giving hints towards the first blood perk to Kirigiri, and even is the one who helped solve the case alongside Kyoko. I don't actually have any idea for Mondo here, sadly, but his role can be as an alibi. He'd help his friend Taka as an alibi as the player started to sus him out. He can also work with maybe Sakura trying to always keep Kyoko in company yea that's just my hypothetical take on chapter 5 of this au, i thought it'd be interesting if the entirety of that chapter is a big piece of game that only the player has no clue about, while the others are playing it carefully
The best part about Genocider Jack being the mastermind is that Byakuya was executed first, and he's the only one who might have had any inkling of Fukawa's being her. It'd be neat if, just before he died, he let slip the tiniest of hints that he might already know the mastermind, but nobody catches on to it but maybe Kirigiri, but she can't have the full picture because she doesn't know about the DID, plus she doesn't have any other answers yet, so trying to approach Fukawa about it too soon would work against her, so she has to bide her time.
Jill: Let's make our friends kill each other Toko: That doesn't sound like a good idea... Jill: It'll make for a great story for our next book Toko: Say no more
One fun thing about Hifumi being the protagonist would be that's a cool reason for the comic mini game, like he actually would draw them to illustrate his points.
This makes the mastermind Execution really sad, imagine halfway in she switches back to Toko or perhaps make the ending happy and they take Toko with them somehow and stop her switching as often or something.
I'm imagining something just the opposite, Toko taking back control just long enough to realize that her alternate persona is too dangerous, and so she willingly goes to her execution to protect her friends.
If she decided to stop the killing game and escape with the others, Then the story of UDG would be amazing, Imagine Komaru finding out Toko hosted the killing game in which her big brother dies.
The Wheel: Hifumi is the protagonist Me: A bit unconventional for a DR protagonist but ok. We can work with this. The Wheel: It's unconventional cuz it's a red herring! *kills Hifumi*
A few things for this version of danganronpa: -Asahina could probably be hinted that shes manipulative through her fte or little moments in the game like Celeste when Hifumi made her milk tea. In Aoi’s splash art she’s in 3rd place and not first, this could represent that even if she acts or puts on an act as a stronger or nicer person. She’ll always be lower than others see her as. Maybe she always sabotaged or manipulated her enemies in the swimming team to lose so she could look better, maybe she used her nice personality to slowly plant seeds of failure into people who were better than her? That would make her pretty cool as a character! -In this one, maybe instead of model, Junko is an actor? That would make her whole “despair loving” personality make sense! Instead of it being who she really is, it’s a defense mechanism of sorts? If she seems like a threat, people feel like she has the higher ground and it’s useless to even try. And Mukuro could simply pretend to be her “bodyguard” to help out with this, as she herself doesn’t want Junko, her only family left (who she can have a chance to save), too die.
The fourth case could definitely be used to show how to cope with the loss of a loved one, so Kirigiri copes with the loss of Makoto in one way, maybe by relying on others to help her through it, and Mukuro struggles by herself and fails to overcome the grief and therefore takes her own life. I know it is a sensitive subject and should be treated with care. I'm sorry if I offend anyone with my idea.
@@ordinarylittlebastard3248 just imagine that Junko is actually a good person here, and that if she does act like that, then it’s either a phase that ends with her sister’s death or she realizes that she doesn’t want to be that kind of person anymore.
“Listen Hifumi, maybe I don’t understand your experience, but I think you need to not be so afraid to listen to others. As a detective I have to listen to those who may have killed, yet I take their word at face value until there is anything to go against it. I understand the struggles of making friends, but at least you have to be willing to listen to others!” “... Maybe you’re right Kyoko, I guess I never thought of what you been though. Such a speech reminds me that I could end up being the villain due to loneliness. It’s late so tomorrow I will try to be more willing to talk to others at breakfast...” ‘The next day...’ “HIFUMI IS DEAD!!”
Is it bad that I like the idea of Kirigiri as the protag having to solve Naegi's murder? I feel like there could be some great character development there. Like, if she was very cold and analytical throughout the game so far, and then when Makoto dies she learns to unbury her emotions or something, rediscovering that her humanity and feelings aren't a hinderance along the way. Maybe she feels a true sense of loss at his death, and is unnerved by it because she's never felt like that before. She keeps Makoto in her heart while she solves his murder and every one after him. Since Asahina is actually very cunning and manipulative in this AU, she wanted to distract Kyoko from solving it by putting her in distress. Before she gets executed, Kirigiri could be like "I have one question... why did you choose _him?_" And then Hina would say something along the lines of "Well, he was pretty weak, for one thing. And I know it was kinda a shot in the dark, but I had to try. Look me in the eye and tell me you didn't care for him." And Kyoko couldn't because she didn't want to deny that truth, but she didn't want it to become reality by saying it (can you tell I like Naegiri angst?). Idk but I think it has lot's of potential!
Omg this was a really fun WDTF video! Honestly the part where Hifumi ended up being the protag *sent me* lol. Ik I might be a little biased, but I have a slightly different version of events that I could see happening for Chapter 2. Maybe when Monokuma announces that he'd reveal all their secrets, it plays out somewhat the same. Chihiro ends up telling Mondo and Taka on night 1 this time, and since Taka's with them he makes sure Chihiro doesn't get killed. They all agree to train together the next night to help Chihiro tell the others about it and they part ways. The next night, Chihiro makes it to the locker room first and decides to get a head start while he waits for the other two, and that's when Yasuhiro walks in. Chihiro, being shocked and unprepared, actually pushes Hiro into the weight rack and runs out instantly, not seeing him get knocked on the head and die. So in this case, Chihiro really didn't mean to kill him and doesn't think he did anything wrong, so when the trial happens, Chihiro, Mondo and Taka are very shocked to hear what the verdict is. Maybe the other two start getting really defensive over Chihiro, saying that he couldn't have done it and all that, but Chihiro gives up in the end after hearing all the evidence. This, in turn, helps Mondo and Taka grow closer over the course of the game, relying on each other to get through the next few chapters kinda like how Hina and Sakura were in the OG game. (Who knows, maybe them being canon could actually work in this AU.) Idk, I think this version of events fits his character a little more imo. But I do like your version too, Weeby!
Pretty interesting to see. An interesting take on Chapter 5 with Sayaka and Celeste too, although I should mention that prior to her original death in the game Monokuma hadn't explained the trial rules yet; as far as Sayaka knew the only details were "kill someone and don't get caught." Given that it's heavily implied the reason she died was because she choked at the crucial moment (Kyoko points out as much post-trial), I honestly feel like she would have eventually cracked and confessed her guilt at some point if she knew the rest. Anywho, decided to give this a try myself for all three games a while ago, and these were the results I got... *~DR1~* The Protagonist: Chihiro The Main Supporter: Sayaka Ch. 1 Victim: Toko Killed by Monokuma for rule violation: Byakuya Ch. 1 Blackened: Mondo Ch. 2 Victim: Leon Ch. 2 Blackened: Celeste Ch. 3 Victim 1: Makoto Ch. 3 Victim 2: Kyoko Ch. 3 Blackened: Aoi Ch. 4 Victim (Suicided): Mukuro Falsified Ch. 4 Evidence: Sakura Wrongfully Punished, Saved by Alter Ego (I decided to spin for this one since it would be a bit odd and a little too convenient for Chihiro to land in that situation): Junko Mastermind: Yasuhiro (Ah. The least intelligent character turns out to be the biggeat and craziest brain of all... How classic.) The Survivors: Chihiro, Sayaka, Kiyotaka, Hifumi, Sakura, and Junko *~SDR2~* (For whatever reason it decided to be ESPECIALLY mean for this one.) The Protagonist: Sonia Main Supporters: Mahiru and Gundham Ch. 1 Victim: Nekomaru Ch. 1 Blackened: Akane Ch. 2 Victim: Hajime Ch. 2 Blackened: Hiyoko Gets Hurt Trying to Save the Blackened: Fuyohiko again (What would lead him to try saving Hiyoko is beyond me since they are very much less than friendly ingame, but who knows.) Ch. 3 Victim 1: The Ultimate Imposter Ch. 3 Victim 2: Teruteru Ch. 3 Blackened: Peko Ch. 4 Victim: Ibuki Ch. 4 Blackened: Chiaki (One wildly unlikely Blackened... Honestly, I'd be interested to know what could result in this. And against Ibuki of all people?) Ch. 5 "Victim" (aka the "Nagito"): Kazuichi (... Considering Sonia is our protag here, that thought is nothing short of TERRIFYING...) The "Traitor" found out by Monokuma: Gundham (Oh, COME ON! Jeez, shatter poor Sonia's heart AND ours with a sledgehammer why don't you...) The Survivors: Sonia, Mahiru, Nagito, Mikan and Fuyohiko *~DRV3~* "Protagonist' framed for Ch. 1 murder: Rantaro Ch. 1 Victim: Himiko The New Protagonist: Tsumugi Ch. 2 Victim: Ryoma... again. Ch. 2 Blackened: Tenko Ch. 3 Victim 1: Miu Ch. 3 Victim 2: Kaede Ch. 3 Blackened: Kokichi Ch. 4 Victim: Angie Ch. 4 Blackened: K1-B0 Ch. 5 "Unidentified Victim": Kaito Ch. 5 Blackened: Korekiyo Mastermind: Shuichi (Wow... Shoe's totally on the other foot there, huh?) Destroys the Academy (Sacrifice): Maki The Survivors: Tsumugi, Kirumi and Gonta
Tsumugi as a protag would be kind of like that short bit in GD where you play as Nagito. "Wow, plain old me can't really compare to all these ultimates..." Etc And Sonia as the protag, watching gundham be the traitor, and kazuichi was the one that did the entire semi-suicide master plan thing that caused gundham to kill someone(maybe even relying on Nagito's bad luck by making him and the others do something that required good luck beforehand).
Honestly, the only way I see Chiaki being an intentional blackened is if she killed on accident or in self-defense. Like Chiaki stumbles upon her would-be killer, who has already killed their first victim or chose her as the victim, and tries to kill her, and Chiaki, out of panic, kills her attacker in self-defense or accidentally. Which she looks on in horror, before going to a nearby trash can to vomit in. I can see Chiaki being conflicted during the class trial, and a lot more quiet than usual, and when the protag reveals the truth, Chiaki finally gives in, and admits that she was the culprit, as she cries in regret of what she did, before getting executed.
TBH the one you got for the second game sounds so good. Like wow, what a main squad, Sonia with the charisma to help sway the trials closer to the truth as well as her true crime hobby helping her understand the cases themselves better, Mahiru coming in clutch with photographing all the evidence she can before and after crime scenes, and Gundham as the AI here...like it makes so much sense knowing what's going on that he's so edgy, he's literally made to "how do you do fellow kids?" these poor brainwashed souls in case there's still any brainwashing left in them. Plus they'd have such fun synergy given we have a venn diagram here of "decorous and personable" and "highly eccentric and loves morbid things" with Sonia smack dab in the overlap. Not to mention the Kazuichi case where like another user said it's absolutely mortifying given how obsessive he is over Sonia in the base game only to now make him the resident nutjob, and then in the process he ends up outing the AI who's her actual love interest... I haven't even played any Dangitgrandpa games and I have my reservations about canon!2 but I'd play this AU. (as for the whole "why would Fuyohiko save Hiyoko?" thing, maybe her motive behind killing Hajime was that she found out somehow that he was some super huge big bad before all this happened, possibly he remembered himself and was gonna either kill someone or hack the system to cause everyone to die or something and she could only stop him by killing him (which given he's relapsed into his brainwashed self he's fine with since he believes this is his way of causing Hiyoko to relapse, herself), and she's catatonic through the whole ordeal before breaking down, and Fuyohiko realizing he treated her pretty badly throughout now realizes she's dying after she tried to save their lives and thinks this is unfair so he ends up getting hurt. And for Chiaki, assuming she's not an AI anymore since that's Gundham now, maybe it was an accident? Maybe Kazuichi set a trap for Sonia or Gundham in this AU and made it so that Chiaki would take the fall because she'd inadvertently be the one to activate it? I mean, he's a tech wiz and she's a professional gamer, he could maybe rig something that causes Chiaki to accidentally remote control some kind of mobile weapon and make her think she's just playing an arcade game. Regardless, sadly Ibuki ends up getting caught in the crossfire and Chiaki does successfully take the fall since, while Kazuichi did orchestrate this, akin to the canon events of Chapter 2, it's still technically Chiaki who was responsible) (I also like Nagito way better now that in this AU he isn't a homicidal crackpot and more just some guy who's just there who's life is just The Price is Right Losing Horn, almost effectively turning him into the Hiro of this story, just less of a sillyhead and more of a "I have no idea how I got this far, usually characters like me are redshirts, but like I'm just rolling with it and glad I'm not dead." or the joke is he constantly expects to be the one to die next because he's expecting that bad luck to crash on him hard so he's like "Yeah guys don't get attached to me I'm a goner, just you wait" but he just keeps surviving each round much to his surprise and relief)
@@Aster_Iris Pretty good ideas and interpretation there. Screw it; I'm sold. Also, "The Price Is Right losing horn" to describe Nagito's life got a laugh out of me.
These situations actually have potential, strangely enough. Kyoko would probably be the best protagonist if Makoto wasn't. I would like to see if anyone could write these situations believably.
Can i just say your canon of Hiro getting killed, because of him being a clumsy coward that stumbled into the wrong place at the wrong time, is so fitting to his character. Bonus points for Chihiro's insecurity creeping back up on them which is the only way i see them ever becoming the blackened.
A couple recommendations for anyone doing this: Roll for deuteragonist and antagonist. Reroll them whenever they die, optionally have deuteragonists inherit protagonists role automatically. Add in a couple weird spaces, maybe just 1 or 2 in the beginning, that redirect you to another spinner. Which contains something like a dead members participation (like chapter 5s victim), suicide, a missing space to represent that the role doesn't actually exist, a new member, a double kill outside of ch 3, and maybe move the protagonist, antagonist, and deuteragonist here. During ch 5 and 6, or whatever chapters you decide to make turning points, add in like 20 more "special squares." Makes the endgame interesting. Roll for mastermind out of all cast members, dead, alive, significant, or otherwise. Danganronpa rarely ends with simply the last remaining becoming survivors. 2 ended with nearly everyone coming back and v3 ended with a side charachter dying. Make a spinner with 4 spots doing nothing and 1 spot making change. Dead characters who land on change "come" back to life somewhere before the end of the story. Living charachter die on change. The mastermiand survives on change. Alternatively, make a wheel ranked A-E, and that's how "bad" your ending is. Do a cast other than DR. I did DNDs class system, I might post it later when it's more polished and anyone asks for it.
I think the protag-swap from Hifumi to Kyoko could work perfectly. You start through Hifumi's eyes and are exploring the world, and when it comes down to his death, it goes through Kyokos eyes investigating the scene, since she so easily solved the cases
Decided to try this out! My most interesting moments were of chapter one and chapter three but for completely different reasons. Chapter one- I got Mukuro as the protagonist. Now what made chapter one very interesting is that Junko was the first victim. I love the idea of playing the protagonist trying to cope with her sisters death. Maybe that’s why Mukuro would help solve the murders. Oh yeah and because we can’t have good things Kyoko is the first killer Chapter three- Chapter three or as it’s true title “The Bullshit Chapter”. Both Sakura and Mondo died. Now you may wonder who could be strong enough to kill both of our muscles? The answer? The wheel chose Hagekure.
So this is very interesting for a few reasons. This whole game could be revolved around painting the strong people as being bad. In chapter 1, Hifumi is killed by Togami. Like you said, Togami is desperate to get out and chooses the weakest person. Which is Hifumi. In chapter 2, Hagakure is killed by Fujisaki. Now, Hagakure is not bright while Fujisaki is very smart and mentally strong. And Even though Fujisaki would never do this, they knew that if people found out, people would see Fujisaki as weak. In Chapter 3, Naegi and Leon are gullible and weak and So Asahina uses them in some way. Maybe she could be close to them before the motive, teaching them how to swim etc. In chapter 4, Mukuro is at her lowest point so she tries her best to just talk it out. However, no one helped her so she took her own life. This could be a point where Kyoko realises that someone should be there for Mukuro. Someone strong. In Chapter 5, Celeste and Sayaka are both very successful people by their talents. They might not even like Kyoko due to how her talent was "in the family". When they are told the "First Blood Perk", Sakura and Mondo could be guarding Kyoko, making Sayaka unable to kill Kyoko after killing Celeste. Toko's motive could be to show that these "Ultimates" are not these good people. That the strong will just use or hurt the weak. However, Kyoko shows that strong and weak people are just as helpful as each other.
I love Toko being the mastermind. I find it really interesting since she has Genocider running the whole killing game with Toko having to go with it. Edit: After watching this, I’m just imagining Toko having a mental breakdown to start to killing game
It was pretty funny that Hifumi was the protege and then died as the first victim. 😂😂😂 14:36 I have to correct you about that because Sayaka didn't knew about the rules of the Class Trial.
@@kiwikimi275 they're talking about her not knowing she would have to face a trial and win, at the cost of 16 people. she only knew about "Kill someone, don't get found out, win and get out" so, her math was "one person for five."
Kyoko as the protagonist would have actually been pretty interesting. We could have a back plot of Kyoko trying to investigate on her own and figure out about her father away from the rest of the cast.
I love when weeby gets the characters she doesn’t want, only to get the character she does want to end up killers! Lol 😂 her reactions are funny! Lol 😝
Hifumi-"Finally! I can show the true power of an alpha male and solve all the cases in this ki-" Byakuya Legami-"Shut up, abomination. Your ahoge is not big enough."
Here are my scenarios for this: Ch 1:Hifumi is the protagonist as an outcast to the group due to his looks and his weeby talent. This would be a bait and switch as he is the first victim. Kyoko, who doesn't know her talent at this point takes over the case alongside Makoto, making them a great team for the first 2 cases. Byakuya wanted to start the game early and killed Hifumi before they got the motive. Ch2: They get the motive this time, meaning their secrets would be revealed if no one is killed. Chihiro wants to bulk up, but still isn't comfortable revealing his secret. He plans to kill Mondo, who he had built a friendship with, therefore having his trust. However when he was going to meet Mondo in the weight room, Hiro walks in on Chihiro and finds out his secret. Shocked, he falls into the weights and Chihiro finishes him off. Mondo walks in and sees this and decides to help Chihiro by moving the body and throwing off the case. Ch3: Spurred by the Mastermind, Leon plans and successfully murders Makoto, taking away what is believed to be Kyoko's greatest asset. What he didn't know was that Makoto was an unintentional ladies man who had multiple girls simping for his plain yet earnest character. Kyoko, Mukuro, Sayaka, and shockingly Hina. Hina quickly found out the Leon killed Makoto and killed him in a rage. Filled with anger and regret, Kyoko finds her talent as the ultimate detective and solves the case, sympathetic towards Hina's plight in the end. Ch4: Mukuro had been working for the Mastermind and felt betrayed when they ordered Makoto's murder by the other traitor Leon. Filled with guilt and regret, Mukuro takes her own life. Junko, who very much loves her sister here, tries to frame everyone else as she blamed them for the death of her only family left. Kyoko realizes the true reason why she took her own life, and uses it to move on from Makoto's death and do as he would have wished with getting everyone out of there. Ch5: The mastermind is now even more wary of Kyoko and opts to get rid of her now. They approach Celeste with an offer of $100,000,000 if she kills Kyoko. Celeste jumps at the chance and starts to plan the murder. Sayaka finds out however, and fights Celeste to protect her friend and fellow Makoto simp, killing Celeste with her own trap. Ch6: The mastermind is revealed to be Toko, not because she felt bullied and isolated, but because Toko Fukawa never existed and Genocide Jack is her true identity, no disorder. as for why, well, she loves killing. she never planned on letting anyone out as she would kill the survivors and leave her mark on the school as she does with all her victims. Kyoko purposes a challenge to her that if she finds out her true identity, then they go free. She accepts this spot of fun and is defeated. She decides to take the punishment and let everyone go free, scarred by what had happened over the last couple of weeks.
Alternatively, for the Maizono/Celeste situation, maybe Celeste was the only one to plan on killing Kirigiri and Maizono wanted to protect Kirigiri out of respect for Makoto who died in chapter 3. For Toko being the mastermind the fact that Byakuya died early on even explains why her Genocider Sho personality remained a secret for so long compared to the original story. Maybe she even intentionally engineered the situation which led to Byakuya murdering Hifumi to eliminate her biggest threat... and Byakuya who could have learned her secret (Protag Hifumi would be too OP).
I also wanted to add an alternative idea for the third chapter double murder which I just came up with by trying to have Makoto's talent take part and taking inspiration from V3's chapter 3. But what if asahina still with this AU personality instead of having Leon kill Makoto, she manipulates Leon into an area and kills him and is able to cover up everything in a manner that would make it impossible for the cast to discover that she was the killer but while desposing of the evidence in the trash room Makoto unfortunately walks in and she is forced to kill him but due to his ultimate talent Makoto's body covers an important piece of evidence (just like Angie in V3) which Asahina is unable to hide allowing Kyoko to find it and solve the muder. Talent wise this would makes Makoto's luck act more like Nagito's as he has the terrible luck of running into a murderer disposing of the evidence of their crime and being killed because of this but his death does hold good luck for kyoko and the rest of the cast due to the piece of evidence his body protected. Through his death he would allow the hope of escape to continue and not allow them all to fall to despair through being unable to find the true killer.
I guess that, as chapter 3 is very early to go about the rest of the killing game without a support character, so, after Makoto's death, I guess that this role would be given to either Toko, for a bigger shock on the Mastermind reveal, or either Kiotaka or Sakura, because they seems to be the ones that would try their best to cheer Kyoko up after the Makoto situation and they probably are the most motivated to maintain the class united. I could actually see Sayaka on this role, but we already have a protagonist and a suport killed, so lets just pick a survivor.
So, if it turns out Genocider is the Mastermind maybe when she is the main personality she takes over for a lot longer. During this time she does more then just murder, she also does all the preparations for the Ultimate Despair and the most horrible event. The entire goal is to spread Despair (the ultimate antagonistic force) and have it ‘face’ Hope (the ultimate positive force). Whenever Toko disappears for this time, it is excused as a “writers retreat”.
A few things about this video (spoiler for V3 at the bottom): Also being Naegiri trash Kyoko being made the protagonist Chapter 2 onwards and that she survived at the end made me very happy :) Makoto being a victim in Chapter 3 and Mukuro ending herself in Chapter 4 is so despair inducing 😢 For Celeste / Sayaka in Chapter 5 I'd like to think of it as both of them trying to kill Kyoko separately without knowing about it and the trap that Sayaka put down killed Celeste by mistake and Sayaka tried to cover it up. Genocider being the mastermind works really well, you could have Toko not knowing about the other side of her and Kyoko fitting the pieces together and revealing it in the Chapter 6 class trial. All in all the plot being made simply by random chance is surprisingly great and you can make a solid story from start to end. (Spoiler for V3) Hifumi pulling a Kaede as the fake protagonist is friggen hilarious while in V3 it's tragic 🤣🤣
Since d.i.d is your other personality trying to protect you from trauma that you been through (I m pretty sure but correct me if I'm wrong) I feel like Jill would start the killing game as a way to protect toko and jill would know that toko wouldn't do it so she just decided to do it herself or maybe she could've convinced toko by using her trust issues against her
My ideology for chapter five would be similar to the V3 chapter 5. Celeste does seem to have some connection to Kirigiri (she seems to trust her more). Similarly, Maizono would grow close with Kirigiri, getting through Makoto's passing together. Since both characters are close with kirigiri, they would act as her bodyguards. I feel like this would change the atmosphere of the chapter a lot, as Celeste and Maizono (seemingly the two most untrustworthy people) are both protecting Kirigiri from being killed by Sakura, Take, Mondo etc. I think that a few days after the Kirigiri blood perk is introduced, Celeste and Maizono would attempt to save Kirigiri, knowing that she is the only one who can uncover the mastermind. I know this would seem like a far stretch, especially for Celeste, but at this point she might recognise , through self-realisation, that Taeko Yasuhiro isn't a bad person, and is really interesting. The original plan would've been for Maizono to kill Celeste (realistically, if someone was to take out one of Kirigiri's bodyguards, it would be Celeste), and create a mystery they both know Kirigiri can solve. This would protect Kirigiri from the mastermind, as the motive would be obsolete by the end of the chapter, as well as protecting her from other students, due to the fact a murder has already been committed. Celeste ends up dying, Maizono plants clues, during the trial, Kirigiri realises that the murder is meant to be solved (something the mastermind maybe couldn't predict). Maizono confesses, but Kyoko would be resistant to the truth and refuses to believe that Celeste and Maizono would sacrifice themselves for her safety. I feel like a very very small protagonist switch would happen here (only for this trial) possibly to Taka (or even Maizono) , and the bullet time battle would be against Kyoko. Kyoko is forced to believe Maizono, going over the case. Maizono is executed (I feel like she'd poison herself during the execution as to not give the mastermind the satisfaction of execution, similar to Kaito dying of his illness). Kyoko promises to avenge both Celeste and Maizono, and uncovers the mastermind in chapter 6. I don't know if much of this makes sense, let me know what you think, might help my future in fangan-creating
I do like this thought, especially since I believe that Sayaka would bond with Kyoko after Makoto's death and that she wouldn't kill so selfishly after learning the trial rules of the killing game.
I decided to try it and here are my results. I also decided to make custom lore for the mastermind why this killing game happened. Major Starting Roles - Protagonist: Kyoko - Partner Character: Junko - Antagonist: Chihiro - Traitor: Chihiro Chapter 1 - Victim: Makoto - Killer: Chihiro Chapter 2 - New Antagonist: Kiyotaka - Victim: Celeste - Killer: Hifumi Chapter 3 - Victim 1: Kiyotaka - Victim 2: Byakuya - Killer: Leon Chapter 4 - New Antagonist: Aoi - Victim: Sayaka - Killer: Mondo Chapter 5 - Victim: Aoi - Killer: Sakura Mastermind - Mukuro Survivors: - Kyoko - Junko - Toko - Yasahiro AU Lore: Mukuro and Junko’s lives are the same as the official timeline up to a certain point. When Mukuro joins Fenrir, something she picks up on during her time there is that she would frequently be used by Fenrir. She grows to majority resent this and she ends up leaving. She joins Junko as things once again go back to being the same as the normal timeline up until the world actually is plunged into despair. She thinks back on everything with how she used the Class 77-B (The DR2 Kids plus Ryota Mitarai), Izuru Kamakura, and Monaca Towa and realizes she is being used as well. She loses all the respect she once had for Junko and in an unexpected twist for Junko, Mukuro, using her skills and experience as the Ultimate Soldier, forces Junko into the killing game and usurps the role of Mastermind. Being well aware of how everything works, she makes Junko lose all of her memories and puts her on even footing with the rest of the DR1 Kids. Without the respect, she now sees Junko as someone weak for being wanting to only be behind the scenes, so she allows herself to be a part of the killing game and makes sure Monokuma has no bias in protecting her or Junko. Now Junko is part of the killing game she unknowingly created. She is forced to be a part of the despair she wanted others to suffer. Chihiro is also roped in as the traitor with a goal. Chihiro had to start the killing or else their secret would be revealed. Chihiro very reluctantly goes through with it but something Mukuro didn’t expect is that Chihiro developed an Ai (Alter Ego) to assist in shutting down the game.
My theories for all the killings Togami killed Hifumi because of his ego, and belief that he was the best. He’d notice hifumi coming into the role of “leader” of the group and decides to kill him, expecting to win the trial What you said Aoi killed makoto and Leon almost purely out of a desire to get out, the money didn’t matter to her Mukuro ended her own life not only bc of makoto but bc I also think she would’ve known about junko and couldn’t hold the guilt Sayaka killed Celeste after the hit put on kirigiri, but ended up killing Celeste Syo, unlike junko in the canon, isn’t despair obsessed and rather used the killing game as revenge for her class turning her in after escaping jail.
I could see hifumi warming up to kyoko, as she so closed off, he would feel that wall would actually protect the both of them, and he could trust that they can't trust each other.
-- *Non-Stop Examination* | *"The Murder Weapon"* -- >> *KIYOTAKA:* "I say that the murder weapon... *was the one used to kill Hifumi!"* >> *AOI:* "But... how do we know as to *which weapon was used?"* >> *SAKURA:* "Simple, really. That loud *bang* was pretty indicative of *gunpowder exploding.* From my knowledge, whenever someone pulls the trigger on _any_ firearm -- be it either a handgun, machine gun or even a rifle -- the *firing pin* strikes the back of the shell casing, *igniting the gunpowder* and propelling the projectile forward and out the barrel, hence the bang. *Shotgun shells* are slightly different, as they mostly fire a *buckshot spread,* but very much similar." >> *KIYOTAKA:* "So, in other words, *someone clearly had to have shot Hifumi!"* >> *MONDO:* "So the killer probably used *some random handgun* they had on him..." -- Truth Bullet presented: *Pistol.* -- *(handgun fires)* *(whack!)* • Kyoko strikes the classic *_Ace Attorney_** finger-pointing pose,* albeit with her hips *swayed to her right* (being a girl and all). The *text bubble* inside the template even says *"Objection!"* (or *_"Igiari!"_* in Japanese) behind her outstretched right arm. >> *KYOKO:* • (in English or French): *"Objection! / **_Objection !"_* • (in Japanese): *_"Igiari!"_* • (in Madarin Chinese): *_"Yiyi!"_* • (in Korean): *_"Iuiis-eum!"_* • (in Dutch): *_"Protest!"_* • (in German) *_"Einspruch!"_* • (in Italian): *_"Obiezione!"_* • (in European Spanish): *_"¡Protesto!"_* • (in Latin American Spanish): *_"¡Objeción!"_* *(glass shatters)* *BREAK!*
This was a fun little thing, I hope you try it again with this class one more time before moving to 2's cause the hifumi twist was hilarious and I can only hope for more protagonist hifumi lol
I see the chapter two like, after hiro got hurt (the injury was really bad), he realized that it was an important secret for chihiro. And out of respect for them, he told them to “finish him off” so as to keep his secret a secret and to give them the chance to escape. I feel like that would be really sweet :3
There's a lot of great stuff this AU has going for it, so I decided to write a "quick" AU plot synopsis for fun! It turned out to be very long, though… read at your own caution. Note: I'm not that familiar with THH, so sorry in advance if I make any errors. Danganronpa THH AU: Murder, She Wrote (Note: In this AU, the Tragedy never occurs, Mukuro participates as a normal student, and Genocide Jack emerges while Toko is at Hope’s Peak.) Protagonist: Hifumi Yamada -> Kyoko Kirigiri Mastermind: Toko Fukawa Chapter 1 Victim: Hifumi Yamada Chapter 1 Killer: Byakuya Togami Chapter 2 Victim: Yasuhiro Hagakure Chapter 2 Killer: Chihiro Fujisaki Chapter 3 Victims: Makoto Naegi, Leon Kuwata Chapter 3 Killer: Aoi Asahina Chapter 4 Victim: Mukuro Enoshima Chapter 4 Killer: Mukuro Enoshima Chapter 5 Victim: Celestia Ludenberg Chapter 5 Killer: Sayaka Maizono Prologue: Instead of an inner monologue from the protagonist, we get information about Hope's Peak Academy from a “bird's-eye view” POV before zooming in and following one of the students during the middle of the school year. This is later revealed to be Hifumi Yamada, the Ultimate Fanfic Creator. We walk through parts of his "mundane reality". Hifumi is established to have a rival-like relationship with Toko due to their similar talents and frequently yells at her. However, he has a somewhat positive relationship with Kyoko, one of the only girls he can talk with on a normal basis. Yamada's personality is altered slightly to focus more on an envy towards girls who are "better than him"; this helps emphasize his antagonism towards Toko. On a seemingly normal school day, Monokuma comes out of nowhere and kidnaps all 16 students, upon which they black out and wake up to an empty Hope's Peak Academy. Hifumi finds Kyoko, who is suffering from amnesia. Kyoko accompanies Hifumi while he reintroduces the cast to her. Hifumi is continually suspicious of Toko, which everyone else dismisses as nonsensical. At the end of the prologue, Hifumi gets killed while investigating at night, and the player is led to believe that Toko may have done it. We then zoom out again, leading to narration about the new nature of Hope's Peak Academy: this sets up the juxtaposition between "mundane reality" and "beautiful fiction". Chapter 1: Kyoko is revealed to be our true protagonist and the first one to discover the body, with Makoto assisting the investigation. (Their growing relationship also ties into the main theme, with Makoto exemplifying "mundane reality" and Kyoko's role as the Ultimate Detective being more of a "larger-than-life story/fiction".) During the class trial, Toko is seen as the number one suspect due to the torment/jealousy she received from Hifumi. Mukuro is also suspected due to her status as the Ultimate Soldier. However, it is eventually revealed that Byakuya killed Hifumi in hopes of escaping, and Toko already knew this but was covering for Byakuya because she was madly in love with him. She desperately pleads with Monokuma to stop his execution but fails, discovering that Monokuma has grown beyond her control and cannot disobey any of his “rules”. With this, Toko withdraws into a deep depression and for the first time lapses fully into her alter persona, Genocide Jack. Toko is unaware of this and has no memory of Genocide Jack's actions. (continues in replies, 1/3)
Chapter 2: Kyoko and Makoto begin bonding with Mukuro due to defending her from the past trial; Kyoko and Mukuro also relate to each other due to having similar personalities, and the three form a team. Similarly to what Weeby Newz states in her video, Chihiro trains one night in the gym to become stronger when Yasuhiro suddenly walks in on them. Chihiro accidentally severely injures Yasuhiro after a mishap in the gym and kills him in the men's locker room to prevent their secret from getting out. During the trial, all girls are initially cleared of suspicion due to a rule by Monokuma stating that girls are forbidden from entering men's restrooms, and vice versa. Kyoko and Makoto realize that a girl may have found a loophole and eventually find that Chihiro is guilty. Chihiro then reveals their secret (being born as a guy but living as a girl). Chapter 3: The remaining students bond, and Kyoko, Mukuro, and Toko in particular all begin coming out of their shells. Inspired by Chihiro's reveal, Monokuma gives everyone a new motive: one of them must kill or he'll reveal everyone’s secrets (continuing the dichotomy between "reality" and "fiction"). During daily life, Junko's secret is revealed, and she finally shows her true colors. In this universe, Junko is still insane but is not driven by despair as much as the pursuit of "beauty by any means necessary", considering grotesque/horrifying things beautiful. (The following fits with what Weeby Newz suggested, but I changed some of it to make sense with the motive.) Aoi finds out Leon's secret (not sure: maybe he fixed a baseball game, or something about his relationship with his cousin) and tells him that he can trust her, manipulating him so they can fall in love, commit a double murder, and escape together. Since Kyoko has become more social, she doesn't spend as much time solely with Makoto anymore: Leon and Aoi use this opportunity to murder Makoto. However, right when Leon and Aoi are supposed to stab him together, Aoi instead double-crosses Leon and kills him, hiding his body somewhere and leaving Makoto's dead body behind. Kyoko and Mukuro are equally distraught. Following both her sister's mental break and Makoto's death, Mukuro retreats to her room. Aoi and Toko instead join Kyoko while investigating. While Kyoko is too much in grief to realize that Aoi is acting strange, Toko notices, and her observations allow Kyoko to solve the trial. Before she is executed, Aoi's secret is revealed: she manipulated and even killed people in order to rise to the top of the sports world, and she hated people like Leon for getting where they were solely by talent. (Optionally, Celestia's secret can also be revealed.) Chapter 4: Kyoko is at her lowest point emotionally, as her best friend/love interest(?) was murdered and someone she considered a friend killed him, even lying to her face about it. Mukuro still refuses to come out of her room. Feeling empathy for Kyoko, Toko reaches out and they "bond" over their loved ones dying. Everyone is suspicious of Junko, since she acts completely insane Nagito-style, and many fear that she'll soon commit murder. Mukuro is found dead in her room with a suicide note, and Kyoko is accompanied by Toko (and Junko?) to investigate. Junko is most suspected, as some theorize that them being twins means that Junko could have entered her room and faked her suicide note. However, it turns out that Junko in fact did fake her suicide note, but that Mukuro simply committed suicide without leaving a note at all, completely consumed by despair. (Again, “reality” vs “fiction”: Junko wanted Mukuro’s story to be wrapped up in a neat bow instead of being left on a cliffhanger.) In addition, Junko was about to commit suicide herself before Mukuro's body was discovered. The majority of the trial consists of Kyoko defending Junko from everyone else. Kyoko realizes that she has to move on from her grief, and that the bonds she's formed with others are the only way to do so. She is also revealed to be the Ultimate Detective. After the trial, Junko regains (some) control of herself and decides to live on for her sister's sake. Toko and Kyoko vow to do the same. Chapter 5: The students proceed, trying to move on and live within the “reality” of the academy, with most of them accepting their captivity and forgetting about trying to escape or kill. Toko especially seems much more well-adjusted and happy. However, Monokuma is driven to “continue the murder mystery story” and comes up with another motive. Instead of the mastermind intentionally choosing Kyoko to be the next target, Monokuma spins a wheel to see who the next "victim" will be... and in a cruel twist of fate, it lands on Kyoko. Thus, whoever kills Kyoko will go home free without a trial. Toko goes into a fit, unwilling to accept that someone closest to her has yet again been sentenced to die; Monokuma shows no sympathy for her. (This next part goes pretty much exactly as Weeby Newz states.) Tired of being stuck inside the school and/or longing to get back home, Celestia and Sayaka independently decide to kill Kyoko, stalking her at every turn. When Sayaka finds Celestia, they agree to "work together" to kill Kyoko. (Neither of them trust each other, of course.) Celestia inevitably attempts to betray Sayaka, knocking her unconscious and tying her up so that she can kill Kyoko first. However, Sayaka saw this coming and concealed a knife on herself, using it to release herself. Sayaka then plans to kill Celestia first, followed by Kyoko; however, she only manages to kill Celestia and the body is discovered too soon. Needless to say, all of that makes for a very messy Chapter 5 trial. (continues in replies, 2/3)
Chapter 6: Tired of all the treachery, traumatic experiences, and "fiction", Kyoko confirms that the "first-blood perk" is still in play with Monokuma - it is. In a display of emotion and self-sacrifice befitting her character growth, Kyoko offers herself as a sacrifice to the rest of the students, offering for all of them to kill her at the same time so everyone, minus her, can escape. Monokuma is visibly outraged but can't do anything about this, since Kyoko has managed to find a loophole in his rules. When the students decline, Kyoko sets up a time and place for any of them to anonymously come and kill her to escape. (Unbeknownst to everyone else, Kyoko uses this as a ploy to lure out the mastermind - she hopes that the mastermind will try to kill her and get her out of the way.) Toko, emotionally torn, finally decides to call off the killing game once and for all by destroying Monokuma. She fights with Genocide Jack (which she still thinks is just a voice in her head) for control and loses, Genocide Jack completely taking over. Genocide Jack can now decide when to switch back and forth. Genocide Jack goes to Kyoko's meeting place and seemingly "kills" Kyoko, causing us to shift out of Kyoko's POV and into the "bird's eye view" from the beginning of the game. We jump straight to the trial, with all of the surviving characters visibly shaken up. One of them even questions why there even is a trial. Monokuma replies that he "just made the blood perk up" (could be lying) and that the killer still needs to be voted on. The students decide to use this trial to decide who the mastermind is once and for all. During the trial, the truth is revealed bit by bit via flashbacks from Toko, who progressively gains back control from Genocide Jack. Mastermind Reveal: 1. Due to constant bullying from Hifumi and others, “the mastermind” eventually cracks from the trauma and begins fantasizing about writing a murder mystery book about her classmates. Her alternate persona, Genocide Jack, emerges as a voice in her head, and “the mastermind” begins planning the killing game to use as inspiration for her novel. 2. “The mastermind” uses the millions she’s earned from book sales to order the construction of a replica of Hope’s Peak Academy far off on a private island, as well as commission a drug to be created that erases people’s memories. 3. Aided by Genocide Jack, “the mastermind” learns about Chihiro’s secret and blackmails them into creating the automaton Monokuma, programming specific rules for the bear to follow and giving Monokuma full control over the Hope’s Peak Academy replica. She then drugs Chihiro to erase all their memories of Monokuma. 4. Before the killing game begins, “the mastermind” senses that the “Ultimate Detective” might be a threat to her murder game. "The mastermind" drugs Kyoko to give her near-total amnesia, also thinking that it would make for a better story. The 16 students are then flown to the Hope’s Peak Academy replica. 5. Following Byakuya’s death, “the mastermind” lapses fully into the Genocide Jack persona. Genocide Jack fears that Chihiro will find out how to stop Monokuma, so she tricks Yasuhiro into coming to the gym and instigates the accident that leads to his murder. 6. Genocide Jack cooperates fully with Monokuma, coming up with the motives. Annoyed by “the mastermind’s” growing bond with Kyoko, Genocide Jack rigs the wheel so that Kyoko will be chosen as the victim. We also see Kyoko’s death from Genocide Jack’s perspective. Finally, Toko tells everyone that she has been the mastermind all along and begs for their forgiveness. As soon as she does so, Kyoko comes out of hiding and reveals that she’s been alive all along. This also shows the player that we’ve been in Kyoko’s POV throughout the trial, and that the “bird’s eye view” was her observing the trial from afar. Kyoko states that the only way for her to win was to make up a “story” of her own and give the mastermind the ending they wanted. Although she had her suspicions, she didn’t know for sure if Toko was truly the mastermind. Kyoko encourages Toko to do what’s right and end this “story” once and for all. Toko uses her Genocide Jack persona’s power to tackle Monokuma and disable it with her knowledge, sacrificing herself to free everyone as the Hope’s Peak Academy replica crumbles into rubble. The remaining students manage to escape the island and return to civilization. Survivors: Kyoko Kirigiri, Junko Enoshima, Kiyotaka Ishimaru, Mondo Owata, Sakura Ogami (3/3)
I feel like for case four, and in this universe, Junko was actually more nicer and actually looked up to Mukuro instead and would be the one to break down during that case and Kyoko would be the one to try and help her, sort of making the two be this new team-up
No, she would be the Hina of the case purely because she thinks that Kirigiri did it because she was catatonic throughout the entire investigation next to Mukuro’s dead body and was marked as the main suspect. At least I think this would be better.
I think how Chapter 5 would work is Celeste decides to try to kill Maizano because Celeste thinks it will be a easy kill. Celeste didn't know Maizano had a dark side to her though. Celeste decides to invite Maizono to the cafeteria area late at night for some Royal Milk Tea. Celetse decides to secretly poison the tea to kill Maizono. When Celeste sets the tea down infront of Maizono, Maizono realises one of the teas is secretly poisoned because it was discolored. Maizono asks Celeste to get some sugar for the tea in the kitche. Maizono then switches the two teas so Celeste ends up poisoned and dead. Maizono is the killer because she realised Celestes plans and deliberately switched the teas knowing what would happen.
I did an Undertale version of this. Here is how it went. The original protagonist was Gaster. Chapter 1: Chara was killed by Greater Dog. Chapter 2: Frisk was killed by Mad Dummy. Chapter 3: Mettaton killed Gaster, then committed suicide. The new protagonist was Undyne. Chapter 4: Papyrus was killed by Muffet. Chapter 5: Asgore committed suicide, with the mastermind behind the game being Flowey. The survivors were Toriel, Sans, Undyne, Alphys, Monster Kid, and Napstablook.
The thing is in the case of Trigger Happy Havoc in particular, I think the first murder is probably the only one where Byakuya being the murderer would make sense. The cast didn't know about the investigation or class trial until AFTER the first murder in the original and Kirigiri's ultimate talent as a Detective wasn't formally acknowledged until much later in the story. From Togami's perspective "kill and get away with it" could be as simple as kill and bribe everyone with money to not rat him when the police arrived to bust him out or whatever. It could also play into early game Byakuya's arrogance to the potential of hidden talents, maybe even having a scene played for laughs about how tropey everyone's skillset is: Yasahiro: Hey man, you don't know, I could have an incredible golf swing! Togami: Do you? Yasahiro: Huh? Umm...no. Togami: You didn't think I would ask? Did your glass orb tell you I would not with that 20% accuracy of yours? Yasahiro: Hey man, it's 30! No, I mean it's a crystal orb dude...what no I- Togami: Thank you for proving my point, leave. Case 2 would probably work as you say, a mix of accident and opportunity. I do like the idea that it's the keeping of the secret that plays into Chihiro ultimately coup de grace on Yasahiro. Something I pondered on regarding Case 3 is a potential way you can make it play out without Hina having a character change. The best I could conclude is that Hina and Leon developing a friendship or more that upon discovering a tempting enough motive makes one of them go "hey, I need to leave, but like what if we both bludgeoned the Lucky kid with the bat together? That way we technically would both be the murderer, maybe we can both escape that way" but, Makoto's ultimate luck plays against them causing Hina to lose grip of the bat during the swing and makes her panic at the thought of not being the murderer, causing her to commit to a panicked murder of Leon whose too shocked over actually doing it and plotting how to hide the body to notice the bat going down on his skull. Case 4, if the secret traitor deal is still at work it could fit rather well to copy paste somewhat, but with a twist in Makoto's death pushing Mukuro to cease her traitor role...and more importantly the role of Junko. Let's assume that though not Ultimate Despair, Junko still acts in a self destructive trickster manner about things. Every case she is twisting suspects words to sound worse, trivialising motives or even mudding Kirigiri's investigations...but *this* case... she's very cooperative. And it eventually leads to you seeing Junko break into fury jumping to point everyone else and deflect the suicide charge, even accusing herself of murdering Mukuro in an insane fit to justify the Machine Talk Battle. Case 5 is probably the weakest in this case since without the "free trip if you kill Kirigiri" motive, there's nothing to tie Celeste and Sayaka to the Mastermind plot. Even with trying to use ties from the original game your best bet would be Celeste and Hifumi (Celeste uncovering the clues Hifumi found to the Mastermind before his passing for instance) but the chance that *that* relationship would be established before Hifumi's death in this telling is what holds it back, especially with the Protag Hifumi's distrust flaw in play already distancing him from basically everyone bar Kirigiri to justify her Protag ascention. I suppose if say Sayaka's execution got botched (say the device that was meant to kill her gets jammed by Monokuma instead, keeping in mind that a replacement for the despair headmaster was not easy in Trigger Happy Havoc compared to the sequels) and Sayaka in a panic flees out the room, everyone splits to find her somewhere in the academy, only to find her corpse riddled with Genosider's signature scissors, leading to the end game of finding the mastermind.
I've been watching so many videos with wheel deciding the fate of the characters but this is the only one that included speculation how it happened too! In the first chapter, I like to imagine that we get to "be" Hifumi just moments before his death, showing the gray blackened about to kill him before a fade to black. Then switching over to Kyoko's perspective. I'd love to see one about SDR2 and DRV3!
Regarding Chihiro being the murderer: it could be a mercy kill, if Hagakure was injured enough that he probably wouldn’t survive. It just happens to have the perk of letting Chihiro escape if he can get away with it.
Why is nobody talking about the fact that good boy Chihiro killed Hagakure, it made me sad cuz Chihiro is my comfort character from the first game :( Also I will die on the hill that Chihiro would’ve been a perfect protagonist for Danganronpa he just needs an ahoge
Hifumi The Ultimate Incel didnt even get his redemption arc his role as the protagonist cut short by Byakuya :') This was really fun and unique deffo do more
Actually for chapter 5, I like to imagine that Sayaka killed Celeste to protect Kirigiri. Basically what if Kyoko if Makoto still becomes her partner for the trials form like a friendship trio with him, Sayaka, and Kyoko. After Makoto’s death, Sayaka is kinda in a state like Muruko being depressed he’s gone, but unlike her she doesn’t kill herself. Both her and Kirigiri after realizing from Muruko death that they need to move on and grow a stronger friendship because of that. Though once ch.5 hits and Kirigiri is the target, Sayaka finds out that Celeste is planning to kill her and stops her before she can by killing her. A bit depressing since Kirigiri loses both of her best friends(one maybe being a crush), but honestly interesting for me.
Our protagonist Hifumi was killed by Hifumi, thankfully Hifumi, the ultimate Hifumi solved the case with the help of Hifumi, fooling the plans of MonoFumi.
Help im dying of laughter 😭
Hifumiception
Which also they hade the faith of Hupe by their side, and Hupair was against them
I felt so betrayed when hifumi killed hifumi, after hifumi went through so much development and hifumi was my fabvourite
Hifumi x Hifumi best ship don't @ at me
Hifumi: I'm the protagonist of my our story!
Togami: I'd rather die than watch this atrocity
The fact I can actually imagine Byakuya saying that-
@@ordinarylittlebastard3248 Kirigiri: now i am the new protagonist
Togami ghost: much better
Hifumi ghost: oh, come on she doesn't have an ahoge
Kirigiri: (ahoge pops up) huh look at that
@@spidersonic91 yas
@@spidersonic91 I love the idea of a character spontaneously sprouting an ahoge upon becoming the protagonist.
@@spidersonic91 yas
You just made a really interesting AU doing this, especially with the prospect of a Junko who apparently renounces despair. I could see her as the Togami role to Kyoko, treating it all as fun & games... until losing her sister as described shows her the toll of true despair for the first time in her life.
Working from another comment of mine, this could tie in to AU Kyoko's character arc as well. The key Mukuro's case would be Kyoko building empathy for Mukuro and realizing the same traumatic emotions that she's feeling is what led Mukuro to commit suicide. So now, having grown into a more empathetic protagonist she can connect with Junko, pulling her back from the despair of her sisters death and gaining an unexpected, powerful ally.
@@notanotaku1101 the Ultimate Analyst. Just imagine if in this universe, Junko held the Ultimate Fashionista title AND the Ultimate Analyst title as well. People would probably be too scared to even think about killing her.
Damn the Mukuro part was sad as hell especially if Junko in this version is a good sister.
She would go ballistic and probably something close to Canon Junko would rear it’s head as a form of coping for the rest of the chapter.
@@michaellane4054 Junko: Noooo! The mastermind kill her inderectly! I must have revenge!
Kirigiri: Calm down
Junko: Ok
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec 😂
I always felt like Mukuro had a lot more potential as a character than what she was used for and absolutely loved the Danganronpa IF novel. If she wasn't chained to her sister like she was during the Danganronpa 3 anime then I could absolutely see her being independent enough to try building a real relationship with Makoto who was one of the few people that didn't treat her like the emotionless killing machine she pretended to be. Unfortunately, opening up your heart to someone in a killing game can be a fatal weakness. The same girl who survived multiple wars without so much as a scratch could still die from a wound to her heart...
@@kylepessell1350 Mukuro: Makoto, do you want to go on a date?
Makoto: No. You’re one of my best friends!
Mukuro: 💔
I can't believe you made a scenario where Togami actually had the balls to kill someone after talking a big game for the entirety of DR1 and then never doing anything
The biggest thing he did was messing up Chihiro's corpse, so that GJ could be framed.
He didn't even try to kill anyone.
Honestly Togami’s Strategy was pretty good, he made himself the biggest suspect at all times and in the process insured that no one would try and kill him because of that fact
Yes someone gets the strategy
I can’t believe she made a game where Sho ( Toko’s alter) actually killed people
Technically Sho killed all the blackened but she/they wasn’t a blackened themself.
So, while Hifumi being a protagonist and instantly dying is hilarious, I realized that it actually could work...
Hifumi and Toko have a small rivalry in THH, the animation, and Danganronpa S, mostly due to how similar they are, and yet how they differ all the same. In a scenario where Hifumi is the protagonist, and needs development, Toko may be the perfect character to pair him with, focusing on their similarities. Of course, they both have trouble trusting others, and dislike one another's forms of writing, so I see their rivalry persisting... For most of chapter one. But I can also see them becoming close just before he dies. And seeing as Toko is the mastermind, this brings up many possibilities resulting from the mixed emotions of having her worst enemy/only friend die.
It's not perfect, but it could make Hifumi's death important beyond an admittedly hilarious joke.
Kaedead
Maybe you could turn this into a fanfic
@@elisabethsun7059 ☝ *_"MATTA!_** / HOLD IT!"* ☝
- *Miles Edgeworth*
Or perhaps an accidental *suicide...?*
@@josecarrilloii4036
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*IGIARI/OBJECTION!* 🫵
What evidence do you have to support this claim?
Okay, thing I realized: with Hifumi being the (decoy) protagonist, and Toko being the mastermind, that's the two narratively based characters set at odds to each other from the outset, even if only one of them knows at the time.
So what about this: what if Toko's alternate personality in this AU isn't just a bloodthirsty maniac? What if she shares Toko's love of storytelling, but this version of her doesn't want to confine herself to the page. She wants to see real stories play out with real people, and in order for that to happen she needs conflict, and so she starts the killing game.
That could be why Hifumi ends up being the first victim. Toko's alternate personality would see him as someone that sees the world in narrative tropes, and thus is concerned that out of all the students he would be the one that could catch on to what she's doing. This could also feed into why Hifumi is the decoy protagonist in the first place: his narration could note all sorts of little things that only would matter to someone who thinks of things in terms of storytelling, and only make sense when you get to the last chapter and realize that's what the mastermind was doing all along.
Hifumi could drop big spoilers disguised as just unimportant nerdy thoughts.
Holy shit that sounds so good
@@USELESSDCK that's what I was thinking. Like maybe he's the only one who twigs to AU Aoi's nice girl persona being all an act, since that's literally the kind of person he expects to meet anyway.
@@notanotaku1101 He could just say something like “Oho! You’re too nice Asahina Chan! I have realized your true nature! You’re a siren trying to kill us all, aren’t you!? Just kidding! I bid you adieu!” and Hina would nearly have a heart attack at how on point his joke was.
Bro this is so big brained it hurts
Asahina secretly being a conniving, manipulative “airhead” athlete checks out with her talent, actually. The swimming world can get pretty cutthroat: there’s a whole lot of sharks in the water. 🦈
Not her unused execution 💀
That’s kind of makes Asahina a siren.
A siren a beautiful yet very deceitful woman of the water. A siren, using her looks and falsely kind words, to hide her true predatory nature.
Hina luring others to their doom all for her own benefit, just like a siren.
@@michaelsayavong2656 love that analogy!
@@michaelsayavong2656 Yes Yes Yes!
@@michaelsayavong2656 amazing analogy!
See the interesting thing with chapter four remaining a suicide just for Mukuro is that in this instance, Junko is still alive. She can probably do what Asahina did and try to make it look like a murder, refusing to let her sister’s memories be tarnished by being weak when she was a soldier who’s fought through worse. Not so much to throw the blame on anyone else, just trying to salvage that image of strength that she had for Mukuro.
Okay, that's awesome.
YES
Aww…!
That would be such a good case and trial too, with Junko being a very good planner and manipulator. I think that could still be part of her characterization, I figure she would be one of the core participants in trials, I picture her having a role somewhat similar to Kirumi's in V3, being this very intelligent person with a seemingly uncharacteristic talent, who creates an extremely elaborate scenario for a powerful reason. And we would get to keep Junko too! Because she would be innocent. She'd still be a fan favorite for sure.
That would DESTROY me as a big fan of Mukuro and Junko.
Shit.
I guess I may have a thing to write.
Side Arc for Fukawa :
She was still hesitant to continue the killing game, but when her beloved togami made the first move, she clicks and ultimately decides to commit the whole scheme
My heart 😔💔
I like to imagine that she tried altering the crime scene beyond recognition and giving Byakuya a constant alibi to keep him alive.
I feel like Hifumi is possibly one of the best characters to be the first victim protagonist.
To start with, thanks to his personality many of the others will probably dislike him, increasing the roster of suspects. Also i think it would be nice if him and kyoko start to get along, by being both kind of outcasts. That way we have character development for both and when he dies we have a reason as to way she becomes the new protagonist.
Also, a protagonist who doesn't remember their talent? I wonder, why does it feel so familiar?
Hajime!
Would be definitely interesting, especially since both are not that trusting of others.
And it also correlates to v3 aswell, with the fake protag being replaced. But also, having the ultimate detective be the one to do so.
Interesting enough, the chapter 4 incident works really well with Kyoko being the protagonist:
After chapter 3, both Kyoko and Mukuro are depressed because of Makoto's death, with Kyoko trying as hard as possible to hide her depression. Mukuro however cannot deal with the depression and takes her own life. Having similar feelings is what makes Kyoko realize that Mukuro took her own life and helps her solve the case and realize that she needs to move on from the incident, otherwise she will end up like Mukuro.
You could also tie it into a character beat of Kyoko learning to articulate and manage her emotions rather than ignore and suppress them. When the key to the case isn't a decisive clue, but Kyoko empathizing with the victim on an emotional level, it would be a great synergy of large scale and small scale storytelling.
@@notanotaku1101 what would be even better is if the one you played as while you were investigating the scene was Junko herself, and Kirigiri is the main suspect because she is completely and utterly catatonic throughout the entire investigation just… staring at Mukuro’s dead body with absolute despair on her face, and you played as Junko utterly tearing Kirigiri apart until we get one of those character switches like we did with V3, where she monologues in her head about how she needs to pull herself together so that everyone can survive, and she resolves to carry all of the deaths like Makoto did up until he died, and never bury her emotions again, because she might have been able to save Mukuro if she was willing to talk when she looked like she needed it. She would then have her first ‘Super Saiyan Hope Transformation’ and utterly destroy any opposition to the fact that Mukuro committed suicide in minutes. She would end the chapter by wondering if Makoto would be proud of her, before realizing that she will never know the answer to that question, nor does she need an answer. She would still be utter trash at expressing her emotions at all, but maybe a good Junko would help her, or at least try to?
@@michaellane4054 oh thats such a good idea! Would give a great chance to get in the head of AU Junko and show what makes her tick, since I expect she's either masking her true self like she does in the original DR or else is just so openly nihilistic that it's useless to try and get anything out of her in a conversation.
@@notanotaku1101 I think that she would ACT like she does in the Canon Universe, but doesn’t really take it too far. During Chapter 4, she would just stop acting because her sister needs support and she’s actually a good sister, but it’s obviously not enough, so in her despair about not being good enough to help her sister and seeing Kyoko just… there, makes her SNAP, and she just makes the class trial a fucking mess while pretty much making everyone else realize that it was a suicide, yet she still won’t stop yelling at Kirigiri. This would actually lead to the finale of this Kirigiri’s character arc in a much more organic and noticeable way like it was done in V3 with Shuichi. From Chapter 5 onwards, Junko would just not act anymore because “it got boring”, so she would still be a little bit of a tsundere, but almost all teenagers are like that to feel like adults.
This would be amazing. Danganronpa devs, take notes
My take on this:
Chapter 1: The game starts out as Hifumi. Instead of the kinda gross dojinshi-artist we know from the actual game, the inner dialogue focuses more on his insecurities in order for the player to feel sympathetic towards him. Thus, when he dies, it comes as a real shock to the player and really lets them know the severity of the situation. The game switches to Kirigiri as the protagonist, because she quickly takes over the investigation, as she still has all the skills of a detective, even though she doesn't know she is one yet. Togami is found out to be the killer, having murdered Hifumi in a bout of arrogance (and worry for his butler), thinking himself so far above the others that he thought he could easily fool all of them. I would also like to point out that, since Makoto dies in chapter 3, Taka could make a great "Best Boy". His passion for order and rules could make him a great aid in investigations and his steadfastness could help the less charismatic Kirigiri keep everyone focused on the goal.
Chapter 2: Honestly, I can't think of anything better than you did.
Chapter 3: Leon dies in reverse than he actually does. That amount of money would allow him to leave behind his baseball career to pursue music. Thus, he chooses the naive airhead as his victim, except he underestimates just how physically fit Aoi is. She manages to defend herself and kill him instead. It even would have been the perfect kill and she'd have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for Makoto's strange luck. It's always "misfortune, immediately followed by fortune". He stumbles upon the crime scene by complete chance, at which point Aoi, still in a state of panic and shock, kills him as well. Yes, that's very unlucky, but it is also lucky, because his death leaves clues behind that Leon's didn't, allowing Kirigiri to solve it.
Chapter 4: Mukuro was closest to Makoto. She isn't used to being close to people, except for her sister. Usually, she keeps a professional relationship with those she fights alongside with, so their inevitable death doesn't hurt as much. This time, she did, though. Additionally, she's used to everyone she fights with being on the same side. But now someone like Aoi killed two people, her perhaps-boyfriend included. She realizes that everyone is on their own side and there isn't anyone she can trust. Yet she's become friends with these people. The reveal of a traitor pushes her over the edge. She can't handle the thought of being betrayed again and losing yet another friend, now that she's actually let herself care for people. So she decides to kill herself.
Chapter 5: I thought your idea was really good. Would also be a good way to reveal all the other information that is revealed in episode 5, since everyone is on a manhunt for Kirigiri so you kinda have to sneak about the hidden parts of the school.
Chapter 6: The killing game is Genocider's final. Y'know, the exams where ultimates have to prove they're actually the best at what they do and they've been improving to stay at Hope's Peak. While not technically enrolled, Genocider obviously wants to prove that she's the best serial killer out there. Her next step would be driving others to kill as well, not just killing people herself. She needs to find what makes them tick, what buttons she can push to send someone over the edge. That's why she gives people motives, because every good serial killer needs a motive to kill. It also makes a lot of sense with Kirigiri being the protagonist, because who is a serial killer's greatest enemy? The detective trying to hunt them down. Thus, this game would be much less focused on hope vs despair, but more truth vs lie like V3.
Also, Mondo and Taka would absolutely replace Sakura and Aoi as the "totally not gay for each other" couple.
You know what would be twisted in Chapter 3?
Mukoto Death wasn't Intended and was a Mistake that was Caused because of a Bump causing Mukoto to be Knocked into Something that would've Killed him.
This can really be Gut-Wrentching since Aoi may have panicked from Leon attack and accidentally killed him, Panicked even more, Running out of the Scene that would've been impossible to figure out who was the killer-IF Not for Mukoto Super Bad Timing to be also stacked into her Kill.
And I'm betting with A Dozen Dozen Donuts that she would've broken because of the Kills that she didn't want to do.
@@roboplayer5133 *_*Makoto_** Naegi*
@@roboplayer5133
I can see Asahina Aoi breaking down at the end of the trial or near the end of it, and during most of the trial she’s unusually quiet and doesn’t speak up as much as she did during the previous trials, too nervous to say or do anything, and denies everything when Kirigiri starts pining her down as the culprit until she eventually breaks and admits to it, and Sakura could defend Hina at first, but at the end of the trial she finally admits that Hina is the culprit, much to her heartbreak.
God, Sakura’s reaction to Hina’s execution will be gut-wrenching.
Having Hifumi be the protag before investigation 1 could work quite well, since it gives time for the player to be introduced to the cast with someone less aloof and grave, before the torch is passed to Kyoko. It would also mark a shift in tone for the narrative as a whole, going from one the goofiest in the cast to among the most serious.
Hifumi: “Oho!” “Shut up.”
Kirigiri: “…” “Um… do you want to do something? Talk, please?
You could also do what V3 did with utilizing Kaede’s point of view. However instead of dropping subtle hints of her killing Rantaro, we see how the 1st murder happens because we are playing as the victim. Being able to see how the murder plays out in real time might give more clues and gives the player some clues that only someone like Kyoko would also know about because of her Detective skills.
Honestly this is ridiculous, everyone knows that if Kirigiri grew an ahoge she’d figure out the entire truth in a matter of seconds.
Yes lol
True
She would find it out in 0.1 seconds
As soon as the trial starts she will just say "ITS CELESTE "
Haha
True
I feel like a good idea for Sayaka's trial is that she tries to blame everything on Kirigiri and Monokuma is helping her. Maybe during the first half of the trial, the other students already manage to find out she is the culprit, but Monokuma intervenes and starts just throwing false evidence, so the rest of the trial is about trying to prove that Kirigiri couldn't have killed Celeste.
And then he’s just like, “Time to vote now!”
@@michaellane4054 Until Kyoko pulls a *Miles Edgeworth* à la the *_Ace Attorney_** series* and *demands to move for a mistrial* right there on the spot...
@@josecarrilloii4036 What’s a mistral?
@@michaellane4054 ☝ *_"IGIARI!_** / OBJECTION!"* ☝
- *Miles Edgeworth*
You *_don't_* know *what a mistrial is?!*
*(slams desk)*
Have you never even *_bothered_* to *look up on how the judicial system works?!*
@@josecarrilloii4036 😑No.
Unconfirmed theory: Kodaka spins a wheel using his ultimate luck power to best determine what devastates us more. This theory was last seen getting executed by Monokuma.
That was a trip. The roller-coaster of emotions from "Chihiro Protagonist?!?!" to "Hifumi protagonist :(", then totally rolling with Hifumi as the protagonist until he's the first victim was top notch. The chapter 2 Chihiro killer worked fantastically as a parralel to the canon chapter 2. Honestly every chapter worked pretty darn well.
for this version of chapter 5, since the mastermind is actively trying to get rid of Kirigiri, I think it'd be interesting if Kyoko herself has no clue about this, and to an extent, the player as well. The rest of the students aren't allowed to tell her about the first blood perk as it'll lead to their own death, so I can imagine having this dynamic relationship between Kyoko and the rest of the cast, some trying to kill her meanwhile some trying to save her without telling her directly what's going on. Maybe Monokuma even created a fake motive for the cast and the player have to find out why the cast reacted differently than imagined.
I can imagine Junko probably taking a very heavy toll after her sister's death, and instead of going through the despair route, she would just feel hollow. She's supposed to be able to predict anything, having her analytical skills, now she feels like she doesn't know who her sister is, and to an extent, herself. So in this chapter, she's mostly just coping with that fact. I can see her being an antagonistic role like Togami up until that chapter as well, so maybe while Kyoko and the player can be so focused on her difference in personality, that could act as a distraction from Sayaka's and Celeste's stalking.
I can also imagine Sakura, who has a close relationship with Asahina coming to terms with who to trust here. She'd probably have a similar development to the original Taka (if he wasn't killed off rip). She'd be distancing herself in chapter 4 and after seeing Mukuro's death, she came to realized that she can't just stay distant all the time. Both she and Mukuro are 2 very strong women and having Mukuro kill herself because of her depression of losing someone to the very person Sakura cared about can be a wake-up call for her to move on. So in this chapter, she decided to help save Kyoko and her way of helping can be by keeping her always in the company of at least a few other people. She's still distant, but she tries her best of keeping Kyoko alive while trying to overcome her own trust issues.
I love Taka so my hypothetical au for this Taka can be that he's the one who is actively trying to save Kirigiri. I can see him being the support character like the original Kyoko. Taka would actively always follow Kyoko around, and that may cause the player and Kyoko to feel suspicious over Taka. Something that the fanbase often forgets is that Taka is an extremely smart dude and he is the ultimate moral compass, sure he's somewhat antisocial, but he's not dumb. Maybe the whole time of this chapter Taka is the one who's giving hints towards the first blood perk to Kirigiri, and even is the one who helped solve the case alongside Kyoko.
I don't actually have any idea for Mondo here, sadly, but his role can be as an alibi. He'd help his friend Taka as an alibi as the player started to sus him out. He can also work with maybe Sakura trying to always keep Kyoko in company
yea that's just my hypothetical take on chapter 5 of this au, i thought it'd be interesting if the entirety of that chapter is a big piece of game that only the player has no clue about, while the others are playing it carefully
The best part about Genocider Jack being the mastermind is that Byakuya was executed first, and he's the only one who might have had any inkling of Fukawa's being her. It'd be neat if, just before he died, he let slip the tiniest of hints that he might already know the mastermind, but nobody catches on to it but maybe Kirigiri, but she can't have the full picture because she doesn't know about the DID, plus she doesn't have any other answers yet, so trying to approach Fukawa about it too soon would work against her, so she has to bide her time.
Toko wants to write a really interesting book so she sets up a murder game™
To create the ultimate murder mystery novel the ultimate writer and the ultimate murderous fiend team up to torture their friends? I'd read it.
Toko just wants to try to write something other than romance so she teams up with her alter to make her murder mystery book come true
Jill: Let's make our friends kill each other
Toko: That doesn't sound like a good idea...
Jill: It'll make for a great story for our next book
Toko: Say no more
TOKO SUPREMACY
@@lunatpr5594 damn, heartless.
"Togami killed Hifumi, why?"
*He killed him to steal his "proportions" for DR2*
🤣🤣🤣
Lol
NO NO NO NO NO
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LOL XDDDDD
One fun thing about Hifumi being the protagonist would be that's a cool reason for the comic mini game, like he actually would draw them to illustrate his points.
This makes the mastermind Execution really sad, imagine halfway in she switches back to Toko or perhaps make the ending happy and they take Toko with them somehow and stop her switching as often or something.
I'm imagining something just the opposite, Toko taking back control just long enough to realize that her alternate persona is too dangerous, and so she willingly goes to her execution to protect her friends.
That would actually be really nice since Toko never cared for anyone of the killing game so her sacrificing herself is a nice change
If she decided to stop the killing game and escape with the others, Then the story of UDG would be amazing, Imagine Komaru finding out Toko hosted the killing game in which her big brother dies.
@@Specimen_8 depends on if Komaru is the protag
The Wheel: Hifumi is the protagonist
Me: A bit unconventional for a DR protagonist but ok. We can work with this.
The Wheel: It's unconventional cuz it's a red herring! *kills Hifumi*
A few things for this version of danganronpa:
-Asahina could probably be hinted that shes manipulative through her fte or little moments in the game like Celeste when Hifumi made her milk tea. In Aoi’s splash art she’s in 3rd place and not first, this could represent that even if she acts or puts on an act as a stronger or nicer person. She’ll always be lower than others see her as. Maybe she always sabotaged or manipulated her enemies in the swimming team to lose so she could look better, maybe she used her nice personality to slowly plant seeds of failure into people who were better than her? That would make her pretty cool as a character!
-In this one, maybe instead of model, Junko is an actor? That would make her whole “despair loving” personality make sense! Instead of it being who she really is, it’s a defense mechanism of sorts? If she seems like a threat, people feel like she has the higher ground and it’s useless to even try. And Mukuro could simply pretend to be her “bodyguard” to help out with this, as she herself doesn’t want Junko, her only family left (who she can have a chance to save), too die.
that makes sense since in the canon junko was famous because she could anticipate new trends but in this timeline she wouldnt be able to do that
Definitely think a Your Turn to Die casting or Zero Escape cast would definitely be interesting.
A "spin the wheel" Nonary Game with the Zero Escape cast would be amazing!
The fourth case could definitely be used to show how to cope with the loss of a loved one, so Kirigiri copes with the loss of Makoto in one way, maybe by relying on others to help her through it, and Mukuro struggles by herself and fails to overcome the grief and therefore takes her own life.
I know it is a sensitive subject and should be treated with care. I'm sorry if I offend anyone with my idea.
I can't even imagine Junko helping her. She would probably rant about how good Mukuro should be feeling despair.
@@ordinarylittlebastard3248 just imagine that Junko is actually a good person here, and that if she does act like that, then it’s either a phase that ends with her sister’s death or she realizes that she doesn’t want to be that kind of person anymore.
@@michaellane4054 Good proposition.
@@ordinarylittlebastard3248 good character development for the win. Too bad that none of this is canon.
THE PURE EXCITEMENT I EXPERIENCED WHEN IT NEARLY MADE KIYOTAKA THE NEW PROTAGONIST
I feel you there!
M o o d
But het, Kiyotaka lives on with Mondo. So, I'm still happy that Ishimondo lives.
Heh
The Chihiro alibi is actually really smart thinking about tbh
Dang, I REALLY want to imagine this DR1 game play out. I might even end up preferring it to the ACTUAL DR1 story. Really well thought scenarios here.
“Listen Hifumi, maybe I don’t understand your experience, but I think you need to not be so afraid to listen to others. As a detective I have to listen to those who may have killed, yet I take their word at face value until there is anything to go against it. I understand the struggles of making friends, but at least you have to be willing to listen to others!”
“... Maybe you’re right Kyoko, I guess I never thought of what you been though. Such a speech reminds me that I could end up being the villain due to loneliness. It’s late so tomorrow I will try to be more willing to talk to others at breakfast...”
‘The next day...’
“HIFUMI IS DEAD!!”
Kyoko: Welp, I’m the captain now.
Dying right after getting character development is peak danganronpa so it fits.
☝ *_"IGIARI!_** / OBJECTION!"* ☝
- *Kyoko Kirigiri,* pulling a *Miles Edgeworth* from the _Ace Attorney_ series.
Is it bad that I like the idea of Kirigiri as the protag having to solve Naegi's murder? I feel like there could be some great character development there. Like, if she was very cold and analytical throughout the game so far, and then when Makoto dies she learns to unbury her emotions or something, rediscovering that her humanity and feelings aren't a hinderance along the way. Maybe she feels a true sense of loss at his death, and is unnerved by it because she's never felt like that before. She keeps Makoto in her heart while she solves his murder and every one after him. Since Asahina is actually very cunning and manipulative in this AU, she wanted to distract Kyoko from solving it by putting her in distress. Before she gets executed, Kirigiri could be like "I have one question... why did you choose _him?_" And then Hina would say something along the lines of "Well, he was pretty weak, for one thing. And I know it was kinda a shot in the dark, but I had to try. Look me in the eye and tell me you didn't care for him." And Kyoko couldn't because she didn't want to deny that truth, but she didn't want it to become reality by saying it (can you tell I like Naegiri angst?). Idk but I think it has lot's of potential!
Ishimondo AND Sakura surviving the killing game? Sounds like the dream ending for me!
Omg this was a really fun WDTF video! Honestly the part where Hifumi ended up being the protag *sent me* lol.
Ik I might be a little biased, but I have a slightly different version of events that I could see happening for Chapter 2. Maybe when Monokuma announces that he'd reveal all their secrets, it plays out somewhat the same. Chihiro ends up telling Mondo and Taka on night 1 this time, and since Taka's with them he makes sure Chihiro doesn't get killed. They all agree to train together the next night to help Chihiro tell the others about it and they part ways. The next night, Chihiro makes it to the locker room first and decides to get a head start while he waits for the other two, and that's when Yasuhiro walks in. Chihiro, being shocked and unprepared, actually pushes Hiro into the weight rack and runs out instantly, not seeing him get knocked on the head and die. So in this case, Chihiro really didn't mean to kill him and doesn't think he did anything wrong, so when the trial happens, Chihiro, Mondo and Taka are very shocked to hear what the verdict is. Maybe the other two start getting really defensive over Chihiro, saying that he couldn't have done it and all that, but Chihiro gives up in the end after hearing all the evidence. This, in turn, helps Mondo and Taka grow closer over the course of the game, relying on each other to get through the next few chapters kinda like how Hina and Sakura were in the OG game. (Who knows, maybe them being canon could actually work in this AU.)
Idk, I think this version of events fits his character a little more imo. But I do like your version too, Weeby!
Pretty interesting to see.
An interesting take on Chapter 5 with Sayaka and Celeste too, although I should mention that prior to her original death in the game Monokuma hadn't explained the trial rules yet; as far as Sayaka knew the only details were "kill someone and don't get caught." Given that it's heavily implied the reason she died was because she choked at the crucial moment (Kyoko points out as much post-trial), I honestly feel like she would have eventually cracked and confessed her guilt at some point if she knew the rest.
Anywho, decided to give this a try myself for all three games a while ago, and these were the results I got...
*~DR1~*
The Protagonist: Chihiro
The Main Supporter: Sayaka
Ch. 1 Victim: Toko
Killed by Monokuma for rule violation: Byakuya
Ch. 1 Blackened: Mondo
Ch. 2 Victim: Leon
Ch. 2 Blackened: Celeste
Ch. 3 Victim 1: Makoto
Ch. 3 Victim 2: Kyoko
Ch. 3 Blackened: Aoi
Ch. 4 Victim (Suicided): Mukuro
Falsified Ch. 4 Evidence: Sakura
Wrongfully Punished, Saved by Alter Ego (I decided to spin for this one since it would be a bit odd and a little too convenient for Chihiro to land in that situation): Junko
Mastermind: Yasuhiro (Ah. The least intelligent character turns out to be the biggeat and craziest brain of all... How classic.)
The Survivors: Chihiro, Sayaka, Kiyotaka, Hifumi, Sakura, and Junko
*~SDR2~* (For whatever reason it decided to be ESPECIALLY mean for this one.)
The Protagonist: Sonia
Main Supporters: Mahiru and Gundham
Ch. 1 Victim: Nekomaru
Ch. 1 Blackened: Akane
Ch. 2 Victim: Hajime
Ch. 2 Blackened: Hiyoko
Gets Hurt Trying to Save the Blackened: Fuyohiko again (What would lead him to try saving Hiyoko is beyond me since they are very much less than friendly ingame, but who knows.)
Ch. 3 Victim 1: The Ultimate Imposter
Ch. 3 Victim 2: Teruteru
Ch. 3 Blackened: Peko
Ch. 4 Victim: Ibuki
Ch. 4 Blackened: Chiaki (One wildly unlikely Blackened... Honestly, I'd be interested to know what could result in this. And against Ibuki of all people?)
Ch. 5 "Victim" (aka the "Nagito"): Kazuichi (... Considering Sonia is our protag here, that thought is nothing short of TERRIFYING...)
The "Traitor" found out by Monokuma: Gundham (Oh, COME ON! Jeez, shatter poor Sonia's heart AND ours with a sledgehammer why don't you...)
The Survivors: Sonia, Mahiru, Nagito, Mikan and Fuyohiko
*~DRV3~*
"Protagonist' framed for Ch. 1 murder: Rantaro
Ch. 1 Victim: Himiko
The New Protagonist: Tsumugi
Ch. 2 Victim: Ryoma... again.
Ch. 2 Blackened: Tenko
Ch. 3 Victim 1: Miu
Ch. 3 Victim 2: Kaede
Ch. 3 Blackened: Kokichi
Ch. 4 Victim: Angie
Ch. 4 Blackened: K1-B0
Ch. 5 "Unidentified Victim": Kaito
Ch. 5 Blackened: Korekiyo
Mastermind: Shuichi (Wow... Shoe's totally on the other foot there, huh?)
Destroys the Academy (Sacrifice): Maki
The Survivors: Tsumugi, Kirumi and Gonta
Tsumugi as a protag would be kind of like that short bit in GD where you play as Nagito.
"Wow, plain old me can't really compare to all these ultimates..." Etc
And Sonia as the protag, watching gundham be the traitor, and kazuichi was the one that did the entire semi-suicide master plan thing that caused gundham to kill someone(maybe even relying on Nagito's bad luck by making him and the others do something that required good luck beforehand).
So Shuichi and Tsumugi swapped roles- oop
Honestly, the only way I see Chiaki being an intentional blackened is if she killed on accident or in self-defense.
Like Chiaki stumbles upon her would-be killer, who has already killed their first victim or chose her as the victim, and tries to kill her, and Chiaki, out of panic, kills her attacker in self-defense or accidentally. Which she looks on in horror, before going to a nearby trash can to vomit in.
I can see Chiaki being conflicted during the class trial, and a lot more quiet than usual, and when the protag reveals the truth, Chiaki finally gives in, and admits that she was the culprit, as she cries in regret of what she did, before getting executed.
TBH the one you got for the second game sounds so good. Like wow, what a main squad, Sonia with the charisma to help sway the trials closer to the truth as well as her true crime hobby helping her understand the cases themselves better, Mahiru coming in clutch with photographing all the evidence she can before and after crime scenes, and Gundham as the AI here...like it makes so much sense knowing what's going on that he's so edgy, he's literally made to "how do you do fellow kids?" these poor brainwashed souls in case there's still any brainwashing left in them. Plus they'd have such fun synergy given we have a venn diagram here of "decorous and personable" and "highly eccentric and loves morbid things" with Sonia smack dab in the overlap. Not to mention the Kazuichi case where like another user said it's absolutely mortifying given how obsessive he is over Sonia in the base game only to now make him the resident nutjob, and then in the process he ends up outing the AI who's her actual love interest...
I haven't even played any Dangitgrandpa games and I have my reservations about canon!2 but I'd play this AU.
(as for the whole "why would Fuyohiko save Hiyoko?" thing, maybe her motive behind killing Hajime was that she found out somehow that he was some super huge big bad before all this happened, possibly he remembered himself and was gonna either kill someone or hack the system to cause everyone to die or something and she could only stop him by killing him (which given he's relapsed into his brainwashed self he's fine with since he believes this is his way of causing Hiyoko to relapse, herself), and she's catatonic through the whole ordeal before breaking down, and Fuyohiko realizing he treated her pretty badly throughout now realizes she's dying after she tried to save their lives and thinks this is unfair so he ends up getting hurt. And for Chiaki, assuming she's not an AI anymore since that's Gundham now, maybe it was an accident? Maybe Kazuichi set a trap for Sonia or Gundham in this AU and made it so that Chiaki would take the fall because she'd inadvertently be the one to activate it? I mean, he's a tech wiz and she's a professional gamer, he could maybe rig something that causes Chiaki to accidentally remote control some kind of mobile weapon and make her think she's just playing an arcade game. Regardless, sadly Ibuki ends up getting caught in the crossfire and Chiaki does successfully take the fall since, while Kazuichi did orchestrate this, akin to the canon events of Chapter 2, it's still technically Chiaki who was responsible)
(I also like Nagito way better now that in this AU he isn't a homicidal crackpot and more just some guy who's just there who's life is just The Price is Right Losing Horn, almost effectively turning him into the Hiro of this story, just less of a sillyhead and more of a "I have no idea how I got this far, usually characters like me are redshirts, but like I'm just rolling with it and glad I'm not dead." or the joke is he constantly expects to be the one to die next because he's expecting that bad luck to crash on him hard so he's like "Yeah guys don't get attached to me I'm a goner, just you wait" but he just keeps surviving each round much to his surprise and relief)
@@Aster_Iris Pretty good ideas and interpretation there. Screw it; I'm sold.
Also, "The Price Is Right losing horn" to describe Nagito's life got a laugh out of me.
I love how it says "We have a winner!" And confetti falls across the screen when someone dies
Okay, this was great. I love how it just instantly goes from Hifumi being the Protagonist randomly to the first victim just to mock us, lol.
"Even if this is all fiction...the pain in my heart is real" 12:26
These situations actually have potential, strangely enough. Kyoko would probably be the best protagonist if Makoto wasn't. I would like to see if anyone could write these situations believably.
Can i just say your canon of Hiro getting killed, because of him being a clumsy coward that stumbled into the wrong place at the wrong time, is so fitting to his character. Bonus points for Chihiro's insecurity creeping back up on them which is the only way i see them ever becoming the blackened.
I thought that Junko was about to be the mastermind again lol
A couple recommendations for anyone doing this:
Roll for deuteragonist and antagonist. Reroll them whenever they die, optionally have deuteragonists inherit protagonists role automatically.
Add in a couple weird spaces, maybe just 1 or 2 in the beginning, that redirect you to another spinner. Which contains something like a dead members participation (like chapter 5s victim), suicide, a missing space to represent that the role doesn't actually exist, a new member, a double kill outside of ch 3, and maybe move the protagonist, antagonist, and deuteragonist here.
During ch 5 and 6, or whatever chapters you decide to make turning points, add in like 20 more "special squares." Makes the endgame interesting.
Roll for mastermind out of all cast members, dead, alive, significant, or otherwise.
Danganronpa rarely ends with simply the last remaining becoming survivors. 2 ended with nearly everyone coming back and v3 ended with a side charachter dying. Make a spinner with 4 spots doing nothing and 1 spot making change. Dead characters who land on change "come" back to life somewhere before the end of the story. Living charachter die on change. The mastermiand survives on change. Alternatively, make a wheel ranked A-E, and that's how "bad" your ending is.
Do a cast other than DR. I did DNDs class system, I might post it later when it's more polished and anyone asks for it.
I would totally make a fan game of this if I could, but I can’t….
And Wow, even the 4th chapter death was somebody killing themselves.
Tbh I love this? This needs to be written as a story somehow
My head is definitely buzzing with scenes and ideas that could come out of this, I might try a short story or something from this!
That's exactly what I thought. I wish I was a good writer, so I could make this a reality.
I hope.
It's been a few months, I'm still hoping.
I think the protag-swap from Hifumi to Kyoko could work perfectly. You start through Hifumi's eyes and are exploring the world, and when it comes down to his death, it goes through Kyokos eyes investigating the scene, since she so easily solved the cases
Decided to try this out! My most interesting moments were of chapter one and chapter three but for completely different reasons.
Chapter one- I got Mukuro as the protagonist. Now what made chapter one very interesting is that Junko was the first victim. I love the idea of playing the protagonist trying to cope with her sisters death. Maybe that’s why Mukuro would help solve the murders. Oh yeah and because we can’t have good things Kyoko is the first killer
Chapter three- Chapter three or as it’s true title “The Bullshit Chapter”. Both Sakura and Mondo died. Now you may wonder who could be strong enough to kill both of our muscles? The answer? The wheel chose Hagekure.
if you can still remember, can you tell us about the other chapters? this sounds like an interesting wheel spin
So this is very interesting for a few reasons.
This whole game could be revolved around painting the strong people as being bad.
In chapter 1, Hifumi is killed by Togami. Like you said, Togami is desperate to get out and chooses the weakest person. Which is Hifumi.
In chapter 2, Hagakure is killed by Fujisaki. Now, Hagakure is not bright while Fujisaki is very smart and mentally strong. And Even though Fujisaki would never do this, they knew that if people found out, people would see Fujisaki as weak.
In Chapter 3, Naegi and Leon are gullible and weak and So Asahina uses them in some way. Maybe she could be close to them before the motive, teaching them how to swim etc.
In chapter 4, Mukuro is at her lowest point so she tries her best to just talk it out. However, no one helped her so she took her own life. This could be a point where Kyoko realises that someone should be there for Mukuro. Someone strong.
In Chapter 5, Celeste and Sayaka are both very successful people by their talents. They might not even like Kyoko due to how her talent was "in the family". When they are told the "First Blood Perk", Sakura and Mondo could be guarding Kyoko, making Sayaka unable to kill Kyoko after killing Celeste.
Toko's motive could be to show that these "Ultimates" are not these good people. That the strong will just use or hurt the weak. However, Kyoko shows that strong and weak people are just as helpful as each other.
I love how they spun a wheel to decide the fate of Danganronpa
It's a popular trend
I love the idea that before even any motive or anything Byakuya is so overcome with disgust by Hifumi he just kills him in front of everyone
These scenarios are really well thought out, go beyond the trend and honestly, I love it. I hope you do the rest of the games. :D
I would like to think that Kyoko would make an ahoge to take after Makoto after chapter 4 to remember him and to cling on to that one strand of hope.
I love Toko being the mastermind. I find it really interesting since she has Genocider running the whole killing game with Toko having to go with it.
Edit: After watching this, I’m just imagining Toko having a mental breakdown to start to killing game
It was pretty funny that Hifumi was the protege and then died as the first victim. 😂😂😂 14:36 I have to correct you about that because Sayaka didn't knew about the rules of the Class Trial.
That doesnt have to do with the rules of the killing game¿
"She wanted to sacrifice everybody's lives to do that"
@@kiwikimi275 they're talking about her not knowing she would have to face a trial and win, at the cost of 16 people. she only knew about "Kill someone, don't get found out, win and get out" so, her math was "one person for five."
*_*Protagonist_*
Kyoko as the protagonist would have actually been pretty interesting. We could have a back plot of Kyoko trying to investigate on her own and figure out about her father away from the rest of the cast.
I love when weeby gets the characters she doesn’t want, only to get the character she does want to end up killers! Lol 😂 her reactions are funny! Lol 😝
I guess Hifumi really can't win at all in any universe...
Ishimondo surviving makes me happy lol
I’ll protect Taka until the end
Hifumi-"Finally! I can show the true power of an alpha male and solve all the cases in this ki-"
Byakuya Legami-"Shut up, abomination. Your ahoge is not big enough."
Here are my scenarios for this:
Ch 1:Hifumi is the protagonist as an outcast to the group due to his looks and his weeby talent. This would be a bait and switch as he is the first victim. Kyoko, who doesn't know her talent at this point takes over the case alongside Makoto, making them a great team for the first 2 cases. Byakuya wanted to start the game early and killed Hifumi before they got the motive.
Ch2: They get the motive this time, meaning their secrets would be revealed if no one is killed. Chihiro wants to bulk up, but still isn't comfortable revealing his secret. He plans to kill Mondo, who he had built a friendship with, therefore having his trust. However when he was going to meet Mondo in the weight room, Hiro walks in on Chihiro and finds out his secret. Shocked, he falls into the weights and Chihiro finishes him off. Mondo walks in and sees this and decides to help Chihiro by moving the body and throwing off the case.
Ch3: Spurred by the Mastermind, Leon plans and successfully murders Makoto, taking away what is believed to be Kyoko's greatest asset. What he didn't know was that Makoto was an unintentional ladies man who had multiple girls simping for his plain yet earnest character. Kyoko, Mukuro, Sayaka, and shockingly Hina. Hina quickly found out the Leon killed Makoto and killed him in a rage. Filled with anger and regret, Kyoko finds her talent as the ultimate detective and solves the case, sympathetic towards Hina's plight in the end.
Ch4: Mukuro had been working for the Mastermind and felt betrayed when they ordered Makoto's murder by the other traitor Leon. Filled with guilt and regret, Mukuro takes her own life. Junko, who very much loves her sister here, tries to frame everyone else as she blamed them for the death of her only family left. Kyoko realizes the true reason why she took her own life, and uses it to move on from Makoto's death and do as he would have wished with getting everyone out of there.
Ch5: The mastermind is now even more wary of Kyoko and opts to get rid of her now. They approach Celeste with an offer of $100,000,000 if she kills Kyoko. Celeste jumps at the chance and starts to plan the murder. Sayaka finds out however, and fights Celeste to protect her friend and fellow Makoto simp, killing Celeste with her own trap.
Ch6: The mastermind is revealed to be Toko, not because she felt bullied and isolated, but because Toko Fukawa never existed and Genocide Jack is her true identity, no disorder. as for why, well, she loves killing. she never planned on letting anyone out as she would kill the survivors and leave her mark on the school as she does with all her victims. Kyoko purposes a challenge to her that if she finds out her true identity, then they go free. She accepts this spot of fun and is defeated. She decides to take the punishment and let everyone go free, scarred by what had happened over the last couple of weeks.
Alternatively, for the Maizono/Celeste situation, maybe Celeste was the only one to plan on killing Kirigiri and Maizono wanted to protect Kirigiri out of respect for Makoto who died in chapter 3.
For Toko being the mastermind the fact that Byakuya died early on even explains why her Genocider Sho personality remained a secret for so long compared to the original story. Maybe she even intentionally engineered the situation which led to Byakuya murdering Hifumi to eliminate her biggest threat... and Byakuya who could have learned her secret (Protag Hifumi would be too OP).
I also wanted to add an alternative idea for the third chapter double murder which I just came up with by trying to have Makoto's talent take part and taking inspiration from V3's chapter 3. But what if asahina still with this AU personality instead of having Leon kill Makoto, she manipulates Leon into an area and kills him and is able to cover up everything in a manner that would make it impossible for the cast to discover that she was the killer but while desposing of the evidence in the trash room Makoto unfortunately walks in and she is forced to kill him but due to his ultimate talent Makoto's body covers an important piece of evidence (just like Angie in V3) which Asahina is unable to hide allowing Kyoko to find it and solve the muder. Talent wise this would makes Makoto's luck act more like Nagito's as he has the terrible luck of running into a murderer disposing of the evidence of their crime and being killed because of this but his death does hold good luck for kyoko and the rest of the cast due to the piece of evidence his body protected. Through his death he would allow the hope of escape to continue and not allow them all to fall to despair through being unable to find the true killer.
A mastermind who doesn’t know that they’re a mastermind would be crazy
Its chapter 4 in v3 all over again
@@Pristina. that's was the saddest chapter ever, I almost cried.
SPOILERS FOR DANGANRONPA 2
I mean, that's technically that's like Hajime
Shin is staring into my soul.
Yes.
Indeed
But well, at least it's not Midori 😌
@@chickenwings7116 Yup
I guess that, as chapter 3 is very early to go about the rest of the killing game without a support character, so, after Makoto's death, I guess that this role would be given to either Toko, for a bigger shock on the Mastermind reveal, or either Kiotaka or Sakura, because they seems to be the ones that would try their best to cheer Kyoko up after the Makoto situation and they probably are the most motivated to maintain the class united. I could actually see Sayaka on this role, but we already have a protagonist and a suport killed, so lets just pick a survivor.
So, if it turns out Genocider is the Mastermind maybe when she is the main personality she takes over for a lot longer. During this time she does more then just murder, she also does all the preparations for the Ultimate Despair and the most horrible event. The entire goal is to spread Despair (the ultimate antagonistic force) and have it ‘face’ Hope (the ultimate positive force). Whenever Toko disappears for this time, it is excused as a “writers retreat”.
A few things about this video (spoiler for V3 at the bottom):
Also being Naegiri trash Kyoko being made the protagonist Chapter 2 onwards and that she survived at the end made me very happy :)
Makoto being a victim in Chapter 3 and Mukuro ending herself in Chapter 4 is so despair inducing 😢
For Celeste / Sayaka in Chapter 5 I'd like to think of it as both of them trying to kill Kyoko separately without knowing about it and the trap that Sayaka put down killed Celeste by mistake and Sayaka tried to cover it up.
Genocider being the mastermind works really well, you could have Toko not knowing about the other side of her and Kyoko fitting the pieces together and revealing it in the Chapter 6 class trial.
All in all the plot being made simply by random chance is surprisingly great and you can make a solid story from start to end.
(Spoiler for V3)
Hifumi pulling a Kaede as the fake protagonist is friggen hilarious while in V3 it's tragic 🤣🤣
I thought it described Hifumi as ‘a mild mannered boy who likes bras’ for a second and had to take a minute to recover-
PHHHHFFFFHHHH
Since d.i.d is your other personality trying to protect you from trauma that you been through (I m pretty sure but correct me if I'm wrong) I feel like Jill would start the killing game as a way to protect toko and jill would know that toko wouldn't do it so she just decided to do it herself or maybe she could've convinced toko by using her trust issues against her
My ideology for chapter five would be similar to the V3 chapter 5. Celeste does seem to have some connection to Kirigiri (she seems to trust her more). Similarly, Maizono would grow close with Kirigiri, getting through Makoto's passing together. Since both characters are close with kirigiri, they would act as her bodyguards. I feel like this would change the atmosphere of the chapter a lot, as Celeste and Maizono (seemingly the two most untrustworthy people) are both protecting Kirigiri from being killed by Sakura, Take, Mondo etc.
I think that a few days after the Kirigiri blood perk is introduced, Celeste and Maizono would attempt to save Kirigiri, knowing that she is the only one who can uncover the mastermind. I know this would seem like a far stretch, especially for Celeste, but at this point she might recognise , through self-realisation, that Taeko Yasuhiro isn't a bad person, and is really interesting.
The original plan would've been for Maizono to kill Celeste (realistically, if someone was to take out one of Kirigiri's bodyguards, it would be Celeste), and create a mystery they both know Kirigiri can solve. This would protect Kirigiri from the mastermind, as the motive would be obsolete by the end of the chapter, as well as protecting her from other students, due to the fact a murder has already been committed.
Celeste ends up dying, Maizono plants clues, during the trial, Kirigiri realises that the murder is meant to be solved (something the mastermind maybe couldn't predict).
Maizono confesses, but Kyoko would be resistant to the truth and refuses to believe that Celeste and Maizono would sacrifice themselves for her safety.
I feel like a very very small protagonist switch would happen here (only for this trial) possibly to Taka (or even Maizono) , and the bullet time battle would be against Kyoko.
Kyoko is forced to believe Maizono, going over the case. Maizono is executed (I feel like she'd poison herself during the execution as to not give the mastermind the satisfaction of execution, similar to Kaito dying of his illness). Kyoko promises to avenge both Celeste and Maizono, and uncovers the mastermind in chapter 6.
I don't know if much of this makes sense, let me know what you think, might help my future in fangan-creating
I do like this thought, especially since I believe that Sayaka would bond with Kyoko after Makoto's death and that she wouldn't kill so selfishly after learning the trial rules of the killing game.
I decided to try it and here are my results. I also decided to make custom lore for the mastermind why this killing game happened.
Major Starting Roles
- Protagonist: Kyoko
- Partner Character: Junko
- Antagonist: Chihiro
- Traitor: Chihiro
Chapter 1
- Victim: Makoto
- Killer: Chihiro
Chapter 2
- New Antagonist: Kiyotaka
- Victim: Celeste
- Killer: Hifumi
Chapter 3
- Victim 1: Kiyotaka
- Victim 2: Byakuya
- Killer: Leon
Chapter 4
- New Antagonist: Aoi
- Victim: Sayaka
- Killer: Mondo
Chapter 5
- Victim: Aoi
- Killer: Sakura
Mastermind
- Mukuro
Survivors:
- Kyoko
- Junko
- Toko
- Yasahiro
AU Lore: Mukuro and Junko’s lives are the same as the official timeline up to a certain point. When Mukuro joins Fenrir, something she picks up on during her time there is that she would frequently be used by Fenrir. She grows to majority resent this and she ends up leaving. She joins Junko as things once again go back to being the same as the normal timeline up until the world actually is plunged into despair. She thinks back on everything with how she used the Class 77-B (The DR2 Kids plus Ryota Mitarai), Izuru Kamakura, and Monaca Towa and realizes she is being used as well. She loses all the respect she once had for Junko and in an unexpected twist for Junko, Mukuro, using her skills and experience as the Ultimate Soldier, forces Junko into the killing game and usurps the role of Mastermind. Being well aware of how everything works, she makes Junko lose all of her memories and puts her on even footing with the rest of the DR1 Kids. Without the respect, she now sees Junko as someone weak for being wanting to only be behind the scenes, so she allows herself to be a part of the killing game and makes sure Monokuma has no bias in protecting her or Junko. Now Junko is part of the killing game she unknowingly created. She is forced to be a part of the despair she wanted others to suffer. Chihiro is also roped in as the traitor with a goal. Chihiro had to start the killing or else their secret would be revealed. Chihiro very reluctantly goes through with it but something Mukuro didn’t expect is that Chihiro developed an Ai (Alter Ego) to assist in shutting down the game.
Chihiro woke up today and chose violence
My theories for all the killings
Togami killed Hifumi because of his ego, and belief that he was the best. He’d notice hifumi coming into the role of “leader” of the group and decides to kill him, expecting to win the trial
What you said
Aoi killed makoto and Leon almost purely out of a desire to get out, the money didn’t matter to her
Mukuro ended her own life not only bc of makoto but bc I also think she would’ve known about junko and couldn’t hold the guilt
Sayaka killed Celeste after the hit put on kirigiri, but ended up killing Celeste
Syo, unlike junko in the canon, isn’t despair obsessed and rather used the killing game as revenge for her class turning her in after escaping jail.
6:58 The killing game is not big enough for two Hiros.
I could see hifumi warming up to kyoko, as she so closed off, he would feel that wall would actually protect the both of them, and he could trust that they can't trust each other.
Kirigiri is going to be a damn good protag
-- *Non-Stop Examination* | *"The Murder Weapon"* --
>> *KIYOTAKA:* "I say that the murder weapon... *was the one used to kill Hifumi!"*
>> *AOI:* "But... how do we know as to *which weapon was used?"*
>> *SAKURA:* "Simple, really. That loud *bang* was pretty indicative of *gunpowder exploding.* From my knowledge, whenever someone pulls
the trigger on _any_ firearm -- be it either a handgun, machine gun or even a rifle -- the *firing pin* strikes the back of the shell casing,
*igniting the gunpowder* and propelling the projectile forward and out the barrel, hence the bang. *Shotgun shells* are slightly different,
as they mostly fire a *buckshot spread,* but very much similar."
>> *KIYOTAKA:* "So, in other words, *someone clearly had to have shot Hifumi!"*
>> *MONDO:* "So the killer probably used *some random handgun* they had on him..."
-- Truth Bullet presented: *Pistol.* --
*(handgun fires)*
*(whack!)*
• Kyoko strikes the classic *_Ace Attorney_** finger-pointing pose,* albeit with her hips *swayed to her right* (being a girl and all). The *text bubble*
inside the template even says *"Objection!"* (or *_"Igiari!"_* in Japanese) behind her outstretched right arm.
>> *KYOKO:*
• (in English or French): *"Objection! / **_Objection !"_*
• (in Japanese): *_"Igiari!"_*
• (in Madarin Chinese): *_"Yiyi!"_*
• (in Korean): *_"Iuiis-eum!"_*
• (in Dutch): *_"Protest!"_*
• (in German) *_"Einspruch!"_*
• (in Italian): *_"Obiezione!"_*
• (in European Spanish): *_"¡Protesto!"_*
• (in Latin American Spanish): *_"¡Objeción!"_*
*(glass shatters)*
*BREAK!*
I could definitely imagine this version's Junko being more similar to Ryoko personality-wise.
This was a fun little thing, I hope you try it again with this class one more time before moving to 2's cause the hifumi twist was hilarious and I can only hope for more protagonist hifumi lol
a lot of tragedies... and a funny first victim lol... but ishimondo survives and I am here for it
I see the chapter two like, after hiro got hurt (the injury was really bad), he realized that it was an important secret for chihiro. And out of respect for them, he told them to “finish him off” so as to keep his secret a secret and to give them the chance to escape. I feel like that would be really sweet :3
Guess ishimondo live since the MM is a self-proclaimed boy on boy fan. Makes sense
The thumbnail would’ve been THH if Kyoko wanted to end trials right away
There's a lot of great stuff this AU has going for it, so I decided to write a "quick" AU plot synopsis for fun! It turned out to be very long, though… read at your own caution.
Note: I'm not that familiar with THH, so sorry in advance if I make any errors.
Danganronpa THH AU: Murder, She Wrote
(Note: In this AU, the Tragedy never occurs, Mukuro participates as a normal student, and Genocide Jack emerges while Toko is at Hope’s Peak.)
Protagonist: Hifumi Yamada -> Kyoko Kirigiri
Mastermind: Toko Fukawa
Chapter 1 Victim: Hifumi Yamada
Chapter 1 Killer: Byakuya Togami
Chapter 2 Victim: Yasuhiro Hagakure
Chapter 2 Killer: Chihiro Fujisaki
Chapter 3 Victims: Makoto Naegi, Leon Kuwata
Chapter 3 Killer: Aoi Asahina
Chapter 4 Victim: Mukuro Enoshima
Chapter 4 Killer: Mukuro Enoshima
Chapter 5 Victim: Celestia Ludenberg
Chapter 5 Killer: Sayaka Maizono
Prologue: Instead of an inner monologue from the protagonist, we get information about Hope's Peak Academy from a “bird's-eye view” POV before zooming in and following one of the students during the middle of the school year. This is later revealed to be Hifumi Yamada, the Ultimate Fanfic Creator. We walk through parts of his "mundane reality". Hifumi is established to have a rival-like relationship with Toko due to their similar talents and frequently yells at her. However, he has a somewhat positive relationship with Kyoko, one of the only girls he can talk with on a normal basis. Yamada's personality is altered slightly to focus more on an envy towards girls who are "better than him"; this helps emphasize his antagonism towards Toko.
On a seemingly normal school day, Monokuma comes out of nowhere and kidnaps all 16 students, upon which they black out and wake up to an empty Hope's Peak Academy. Hifumi finds Kyoko, who is suffering from amnesia. Kyoko accompanies Hifumi while he reintroduces the cast to her. Hifumi is continually suspicious of Toko, which everyone else dismisses as nonsensical.
At the end of the prologue, Hifumi gets killed while investigating at night, and the player is led to believe that Toko may have done it. We then zoom out again, leading to narration about the new nature of Hope's Peak Academy: this sets up the juxtaposition between "mundane reality" and "beautiful fiction".
Chapter 1: Kyoko is revealed to be our true protagonist and the first one to discover the body, with Makoto assisting the investigation. (Their growing relationship also ties into the main theme, with Makoto exemplifying "mundane reality" and Kyoko's role as the Ultimate Detective being more of a "larger-than-life story/fiction".)
During the class trial, Toko is seen as the number one suspect due to the torment/jealousy she received from Hifumi. Mukuro is also suspected due to her status as the Ultimate Soldier. However, it is eventually revealed that Byakuya killed Hifumi in hopes of escaping, and Toko already knew this but was covering for Byakuya because she was madly in love with him. She desperately pleads with Monokuma to stop his execution but fails, discovering that Monokuma has grown beyond her control and cannot disobey any of his “rules”. With this, Toko withdraws into a deep depression and for the first time lapses fully into her alter persona, Genocide Jack. Toko is unaware of this and has no memory of Genocide Jack's actions. (continues in replies, 1/3)
Chapter 2: Kyoko and Makoto begin bonding with Mukuro due to defending her from the past trial; Kyoko and Mukuro also relate to each other due to having similar personalities, and the three form a team.
Similarly to what Weeby Newz states in her video, Chihiro trains one night in the gym to become stronger when Yasuhiro suddenly walks in on them. Chihiro accidentally severely injures Yasuhiro after a mishap in the gym and kills him in the men's locker room to prevent their secret from getting out. During the trial, all girls are initially cleared of suspicion due to a rule by Monokuma stating that girls are forbidden from entering men's restrooms, and vice versa. Kyoko and Makoto realize that a girl may have found a loophole and eventually find that Chihiro is guilty. Chihiro then reveals their secret (being born as a guy but living as a girl).
Chapter 3: The remaining students bond, and Kyoko, Mukuro, and Toko in particular all begin coming out of their shells. Inspired by Chihiro's reveal, Monokuma gives everyone a new motive: one of them must kill or he'll reveal everyone’s secrets (continuing the dichotomy between "reality" and "fiction").
During daily life, Junko's secret is revealed, and she finally shows her true colors. In this universe, Junko is still insane but is not driven by despair as much as the pursuit of "beauty by any means necessary", considering grotesque/horrifying things beautiful.
(The following fits with what Weeby Newz suggested, but I changed some of it to make sense with the motive.)
Aoi finds out Leon's secret (not sure: maybe he fixed a baseball game, or something about his relationship with his cousin) and tells him that he can trust her, manipulating him so they can fall in love, commit a double murder, and escape together. Since Kyoko has become more social, she doesn't spend as much time solely with Makoto anymore: Leon and Aoi use this opportunity to murder Makoto. However, right when Leon and Aoi are supposed to stab him together, Aoi instead double-crosses Leon and kills him, hiding his body somewhere and leaving Makoto's dead body behind.
Kyoko and Mukuro are equally distraught. Following both her sister's mental break and Makoto's death, Mukuro retreats to her room. Aoi and Toko instead join Kyoko while investigating. While Kyoko is too much in grief to realize that Aoi is acting strange, Toko notices, and her observations allow Kyoko to solve the trial. Before she is executed, Aoi's secret is revealed: she manipulated and even killed people in order to rise to the top of the sports world, and she hated people like Leon for getting where they were solely by talent.
(Optionally, Celestia's secret can also be revealed.)
Chapter 4: Kyoko is at her lowest point emotionally, as her best friend/love interest(?) was murdered and someone she considered a friend killed him, even lying to her face about it. Mukuro still refuses to come out of her room. Feeling empathy for Kyoko, Toko reaches out and they "bond" over their loved ones dying. Everyone is suspicious of Junko, since she acts completely insane Nagito-style, and many fear that she'll soon commit murder.
Mukuro is found dead in her room with a suicide note, and Kyoko is accompanied by Toko (and Junko?) to investigate. Junko is most suspected, as some theorize that them being twins means that Junko could have entered her room and faked her suicide note. However, it turns out that Junko in fact did fake her suicide note, but that Mukuro simply committed suicide without leaving a note at all, completely consumed by despair. (Again, “reality” vs “fiction”: Junko wanted Mukuro’s story to be wrapped up in a neat bow instead of being left on a cliffhanger.) In addition, Junko was about to commit suicide herself before Mukuro's body was discovered. The majority of the trial consists of Kyoko defending Junko from everyone else. Kyoko realizes that she has to move on from her grief, and that the bonds she's formed with others are the only way to do so. She is also revealed to be the Ultimate Detective. After the trial, Junko regains (some) control of herself and decides to live on for her sister's sake. Toko and Kyoko vow to do the same.
Chapter 5: The students proceed, trying to move on and live within the “reality” of the academy, with most of them accepting their captivity and forgetting about trying to escape or kill. Toko especially seems much more well-adjusted and happy.
However, Monokuma is driven to “continue the murder mystery story” and comes up with another motive. Instead of the mastermind intentionally choosing Kyoko to be the next target, Monokuma spins a wheel to see who the next "victim" will be... and in a cruel twist of fate, it lands on Kyoko. Thus, whoever kills Kyoko will go home free without a trial. Toko goes into a fit, unwilling to accept that someone closest to her has yet again been sentenced to die; Monokuma shows no sympathy for her.
(This next part goes pretty much exactly as Weeby Newz states.)
Tired of being stuck inside the school and/or longing to get back home, Celestia and Sayaka independently decide to kill Kyoko, stalking her at every turn. When Sayaka finds Celestia, they agree to "work together" to kill Kyoko. (Neither of them trust each other, of course.)
Celestia inevitably attempts to betray Sayaka, knocking her unconscious and tying her up so that she can kill Kyoko first. However, Sayaka saw this coming and concealed a knife on herself, using it to release herself. Sayaka then plans to kill Celestia first, followed by Kyoko; however, she only manages to kill Celestia and the body is discovered too soon.
Needless to say, all of that makes for a very messy Chapter 5 trial. (continues in replies, 2/3)
Chapter 6: Tired of all the treachery, traumatic experiences, and "fiction", Kyoko confirms that the "first-blood perk" is still in play with Monokuma - it is. In a display of emotion and self-sacrifice befitting her character growth, Kyoko offers herself as a sacrifice to the rest of the students, offering for all of them to kill her at the same time so everyone, minus her, can escape. Monokuma is visibly outraged but can't do anything about this, since Kyoko has managed to find a loophole in his rules. When the students decline, Kyoko sets up a time and place for any of them to anonymously come and kill her to escape. (Unbeknownst to everyone else, Kyoko uses this as a ploy to lure out the mastermind - she hopes that the mastermind will try to kill her and get her out of the way.)
Toko, emotionally torn, finally decides to call off the killing game once and for all by destroying Monokuma. She fights with Genocide Jack (which she still thinks is just a voice in her head) for control and loses, Genocide Jack completely taking over. Genocide Jack can now decide when to switch back and forth. Genocide Jack goes to Kyoko's meeting place and seemingly "kills" Kyoko, causing us to shift out of Kyoko's POV and into the "bird's eye view" from the beginning of the game.
We jump straight to the trial, with all of the surviving characters visibly shaken up. One of them even questions why there even is a trial. Monokuma replies that he "just made the blood perk up" (could be lying) and that the killer still needs to be voted on. The students decide to use this trial to decide who the mastermind is once and for all. During the trial, the truth is revealed bit by bit via flashbacks from Toko, who progressively gains back control from Genocide Jack.
Mastermind Reveal:
1. Due to constant bullying from Hifumi and others, “the mastermind” eventually cracks from the trauma and begins fantasizing about writing a murder mystery book about her classmates. Her alternate persona, Genocide Jack, emerges as a voice in her head, and “the mastermind” begins planning the killing game to use as inspiration for her novel.
2. “The mastermind” uses the millions she’s earned from book sales to order the construction of a replica of Hope’s Peak Academy far off on a private island, as well as commission a drug to be created that erases people’s memories.
3. Aided by Genocide Jack, “the mastermind” learns about Chihiro’s secret and blackmails them into creating the automaton Monokuma, programming specific rules for the bear to follow and giving Monokuma full control over the Hope’s Peak Academy replica. She then drugs Chihiro to erase all their memories of Monokuma.
4. Before the killing game begins, “the mastermind” senses that the “Ultimate Detective” might be a threat to her murder game. "The mastermind" drugs Kyoko to give her near-total amnesia, also thinking that it would make for a better story. The 16 students are then flown to the Hope’s Peak Academy replica.
5. Following Byakuya’s death, “the mastermind” lapses fully into the Genocide Jack persona. Genocide Jack fears that Chihiro will find out how to stop Monokuma, so she tricks Yasuhiro into coming to the gym and instigates the accident that leads to his murder.
6. Genocide Jack cooperates fully with Monokuma, coming up with the motives. Annoyed by “the mastermind’s” growing bond with Kyoko, Genocide Jack rigs the wheel so that Kyoko will be chosen as the victim. We also see Kyoko’s death from Genocide Jack’s perspective.
Finally, Toko tells everyone that she has been the mastermind all along and begs for their forgiveness. As soon as she does so, Kyoko comes out of hiding and reveals that she’s been alive all along. This also shows the player that we’ve been in Kyoko’s POV throughout the trial, and that the “bird’s eye view” was her observing the trial from afar.
Kyoko states that the only way for her to win was to make up a “story” of her own and give the mastermind the ending they wanted. Although she had her suspicions, she didn’t know for sure if Toko was truly the mastermind. Kyoko encourages Toko to do what’s right and end this “story” once and for all. Toko uses her Genocide Jack persona’s power to tackle Monokuma and disable it with her knowledge, sacrificing herself to free everyone as the Hope’s Peak Academy replica crumbles into rubble. The remaining students manage to escape the island and return to civilization.
Survivors: Kyoko Kirigiri, Junko Enoshima, Kiyotaka Ishimaru, Mondo Owata, Sakura Ogami (3/3)
I feel like for case four, and in this universe, Junko was actually more nicer and actually looked up to Mukuro instead and would be the one to break down during that case and Kyoko would be the one to try and help her, sort of making the two be this new team-up
No, she would be the Hina of the case purely because she thinks that Kirigiri did it because she was catatonic throughout the entire investigation next to Mukuro’s dead body and was marked as the main suspect. At least I think this would be better.
@@michaellane4054 yes, but then who would be Kyoko's partner then?
@@zenothecubone2022 Junko. Oh, the irony.☺️ I would perfectly mirror how Kirigiri and Makoto had a falling out during Chapter 4 as well.
@@michaellane4054 But Makoto dies in Chapter 3
@@zenothecubone2022 it would reflect Canon Chapter 4, I mean.
Yay! I was waiting for this!
Nobody:
Chihiro: Well he knows now and he's vulnerable....lets get to it
I'd like to see what the sdr2 cast would do, like imagine if Nagito dies early on or something
I think how Chapter 5 would work is Celeste decides to try to kill Maizano because Celeste thinks it will be a easy kill.
Celeste didn't know Maizano had a dark side to her though.
Celeste decides to invite Maizono to the cafeteria area late at night for some Royal Milk Tea. Celetse decides to secretly poison the tea to kill Maizono.
When Celeste sets the tea down infront of Maizono, Maizono realises one of the teas is secretly poisoned because it was discolored. Maizono asks Celeste to get some sugar for the tea in the kitche. Maizono then switches the two teas so Celeste ends up poisoned and dead.
Maizono is the killer because she realised Celestes plans and deliberately switched the teas knowing what would happen.
I love how when the wheel decides someone, no matter what, it says "We have a winner!"
I did an Undertale version of this. Here is how it went.
The original protagonist was Gaster.
Chapter 1: Chara was killed by Greater Dog.
Chapter 2: Frisk was killed by Mad Dummy.
Chapter 3: Mettaton killed Gaster, then committed suicide. The new protagonist was Undyne.
Chapter 4: Papyrus was killed by Muffet.
Chapter 5: Asgore committed suicide, with the mastermind behind the game being Flowey.
The survivors were Toriel, Sans, Undyne, Alphys, Monster Kid, and Napstablook.
The thing is in the case of Trigger Happy Havoc in particular, I think the first murder is probably the only one where Byakuya being the murderer would make sense. The cast didn't know about the investigation or class trial until AFTER the first murder in the original and Kirigiri's ultimate talent as a Detective wasn't formally acknowledged until much later in the story. From Togami's perspective "kill and get away with it" could be as simple as kill and bribe everyone with money to not rat him when the police arrived to bust him out or whatever.
It could also play into early game Byakuya's arrogance to the potential of hidden talents, maybe even having a scene played for laughs about how tropey everyone's skillset is:
Yasahiro: Hey man, you don't know, I could have an incredible golf swing!
Togami: Do you?
Yasahiro: Huh? Umm...no.
Togami: You didn't think I would ask? Did your glass orb tell you I would not with that 20% accuracy of yours?
Yasahiro: Hey man, it's 30! No, I mean it's a crystal orb dude...what no I-
Togami: Thank you for proving my point, leave.
Case 2 would probably work as you say, a mix of accident and opportunity. I do like the idea that it's the keeping of the secret that plays into Chihiro ultimately coup de grace on Yasahiro.
Something I pondered on regarding Case 3 is a potential way you can make it play out without Hina having a character change. The best I could conclude is that Hina and Leon developing a friendship or more that upon discovering a tempting enough motive makes one of them go "hey, I need to leave, but like what if we both bludgeoned the Lucky kid with the bat together? That way we technically would both be the murderer, maybe we can both escape that way" but, Makoto's ultimate luck plays against them causing Hina to lose grip of the bat during the swing and makes her panic at the thought of not being the murderer, causing her to commit to a panicked murder of Leon whose too shocked over actually doing it and plotting how to hide the body to notice the bat going down on his skull.
Case 4, if the secret traitor deal is still at work it could fit rather well to copy paste somewhat, but with a twist in Makoto's death pushing Mukuro to cease her traitor role...and more importantly the role of Junko. Let's assume that though not Ultimate Despair, Junko still acts in a self destructive trickster manner about things. Every case she is twisting suspects words to sound worse, trivialising motives or even mudding Kirigiri's investigations...but *this* case... she's very cooperative. And it eventually leads to you seeing Junko break into fury jumping to point everyone else and deflect the suicide charge, even accusing herself of murdering Mukuro in an insane fit to justify the Machine Talk Battle.
Case 5 is probably the weakest in this case since without the "free trip if you kill Kirigiri" motive, there's nothing to tie Celeste and Sayaka to the Mastermind plot. Even with trying to use ties from the original game your best bet would be Celeste and Hifumi (Celeste uncovering the clues Hifumi found to the Mastermind before his passing for instance) but the chance that *that* relationship would be established before Hifumi's death in this telling is what holds it back, especially with the Protag Hifumi's distrust flaw in play already distancing him from basically everyone bar Kirigiri to justify her Protag ascention. I suppose if say Sayaka's execution got botched (say the device that was meant to kill her gets jammed by Monokuma instead, keeping in mind that a replacement for the despair headmaster was not easy in Trigger Happy Havoc compared to the sequels) and Sayaka in a panic flees out the room, everyone splits to find her somewhere in the academy, only to find her corpse riddled with Genosider's signature scissors, leading to the end game of finding the mastermind.
This was fun!
I kinda wish you had brought up everyone for the mastermind though. Hey, you never know, maybe they pulled another Junko, or so.
Reached a point where I'm not even that hardcore into DR like that anymore, but just enjoy good ol Weeblez
Loved this, a lot of fun. Would love to see more.
I've been watching so many videos with wheel deciding the fate of the characters but this is the only one that included speculation how it happened too! In the first chapter, I like to imagine that we get to "be" Hifumi just moments before his death, showing the gray blackened about to kill him before a fade to black. Then switching over to Kyoko's perspective.
I'd love to see one about SDR2 and DRV3!
Kyoko: Why don't you tell them Makoto?
Makoto: *Bitch nah, you're the protagonist this time*
Regarding Chihiro being the murderer: it could be a mercy kill, if Hagakure was injured enough that he probably wouldn’t survive. It just happens to have the perk of letting Chihiro escape if he can get away with it.
Why is nobody talking about the fact that good boy Chihiro killed Hagakure, it made me sad cuz Chihiro is my comfort character from the first game :(
Also I will die on the hill that Chihiro would’ve been a perfect protagonist for Danganronpa he just needs an ahoge
Hifumi The Ultimate Incel didnt even get his redemption arc his role as the protagonist cut short by Byakuya :')
This was really fun and unique deffo do more
Actually for chapter 5, I like to imagine that Sayaka killed Celeste to protect Kirigiri. Basically what if Kyoko if Makoto still becomes her partner for the trials form like a friendship trio with him, Sayaka, and Kyoko. After Makoto’s death, Sayaka is kinda in a state like Muruko being depressed he’s gone, but unlike her she doesn’t kill herself. Both her and Kirigiri after realizing from Muruko death that they need to move on and grow a stronger friendship because of that. Though once ch.5 hits and Kirigiri is the target, Sayaka finds out that Celeste is planning to kill her and stops her before she can by killing her. A bit depressing since Kirigiri loses both of her best friends(one maybe being a crush), but honestly interesting for me.