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Joe and Tony join Ric as he talks about his experience in North Korea, learn about the fascinating character of Antonio Inoki and his infamous fight with Muhammad Ali.
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Taken from JRE #1974 w/ Ric Flair
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Joe and Tony join Ric as he talks about his experience in North Korea, learn about the fascinating character of Antonio Inoki and his infamous fight with Muhammad Ali.
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Taken from JRE #1974 w/ Ric Flair
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Hogan saying "I cant make that one, Brother" is so damn funny 😂😂
Because he is a real American.
Probably a good thing he didn't go because he was still doing the all American hero gimmick at the time it would have been a disaster so I really don't blame him for not going
4:45 For the context that Ric couldn't remember off the top of his head, Antonio Inoki was a student of the late great Rikidozan, the original Japanese global pro wrestler. Rikidozan made pro wrestling popular over there almost singlehandedly, and he trained two amazing Japanese pro wrestlers, Inoki, the founder of New Japan Pro Wrestling, and Giant Baba Shohei, the founder of All-Japan Pro Wrestling.
Rikidozan was born in North Korea at a time when Japan occupied the whole Korean Peninsula, so in the eyes of Kim Il-Sung and his son Kim Jong-Il, Rikidozan was a Korean hero, and Inoki was a student of said Korean hero.
Tell me that Ali, Inoki, and Flair in north korea for 7 days isnt a killer movie idea.
2 passed away
And 2 cold Scorpio
Nobody cares about 2 cold scorpio
Wooooohhhhh
Steven Seagal " I mean it sounds okayish, I wouldn't say it's killer"
Fun fact: that wrestling event was the most attended event in history. Can’t really fit 200,000 people in any other stadium in the world
I spoke to Bill Eady once (Demolition Ax) and he said he wrestled in front of 200,000 in Pakistan, so there must be somewhere there that can hold that many.
I'm all immersed. The way Ric tells these creepy stories... I could listen all day.
Probably because you’re uncultured and don’t understand the “travellers effect”
I catered a small party at Rick flairs house, I think it was his daughters birthday or something. Never really had a conversation with him, but they were still nice. Tipped is $100 each.
❤❤❤
"no wonder we hate these SOB's" 😂😂😂😂
“I can’t make that one, brother”
Hahaha
Say what you want about Hogan but lol he wasn't dumb.
😂😂😂
Gorgeous George would certainly count as an influence. Not on Flair's specific character per se, but on general showmanship
flair also took Buddy Rogers nickname, gimmick, and finisher so ..
imagine if ric flare went crazy like he does. Looked Kim strait in the eyes an elbowed the floor an said whooo
I'm a Rolex wearing, kiss stealing.....
I remember looking at some North Korean magazines that my university had at its library and seeing photos of this match between Ric Flair and Inoki.
Yeah, there was this guy called the "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers (first ever WWWF Champ) before Ric Flair. Ric stole his moniker, his gimmick, and his finisher (the "Figure-Four" leglock).
I'm glad there's someone else old enough to remember the truth. I was wondering if Ric getting senile or is he just lying.
To me it seemed like Flair's understanding of the question was a bit different. Obviously Buddy Rogers was the "real nature boy" (as Scott Steiner used to say), so no argument there. They were talking about people Flair looked at in life and wanted to be like, such as Joe Namath. I thought Flair was talking about real life people that he wanted to be like and emulate the type of life those people lived, not wrestlers that influenced his gimmick.
@@branchtana315 precisely.
@@branchtana315 NO, you didn't pay attention. Joe literally corrected Flair's understanding and verbally said, "influence by wrestlers." See, to YOU, you're coming up with an excuse playing devil's advocate. But theres no room for that. Joe made it clear what his question was. Now you need to go back and watch the video again. It's free to pay attention.
@Wade Wilson, it's also free not to be a dick 😂
Ali wanted it to be a work. Inoki wanted a shoot. Ali got wind and made rules limiting Enoki's ability to grapple. So instead of giving the fans a show, Inoki but scooted. Ali wanted to give the fans a show, which is the point of pro wrestling. Inoki wanted to make a name for himself by being up Ali.
No influence in wrestling?! Wtf hello? You forget buddy Rodgers?
Exactly and Nick Bockwinkle
I love how much different his wrestling persona is from his actual personality.. really nice guy.. Great storyteller
He's not that different, he's never been faithful to any one of his 4 wives for a single day in his life.
Dude is a total toolbox. The opposite of humble.
Very surprised no mention of the nature boy buddy Rogers...i mean come on Ric. Give the brother a shout out at least
I served in south korea for 4 years in the army so im VERY EDUCATED about the north. They are no joke. Within 24 hrs they can pull every citizen underground into endless fortified tunnels if they go to war. Scary
The Ali-Inoki match was a shoot. The camps could never agree on rules or a finish so they just went at it.
That match was hard to watch it was so bad
@@Geojr815 If it was contested until pure MMA rules without all the amendments Ali's camp insisted on then Inoki would have beaten him no doubt.
Went at it 😂😂😂😂 like everything was illegal
Like someone said here, Ali wanted a show, but Inoki wanted a shoot. That's what happens when two competitors aren't in agreement with each other, it just results in a terrible fight.
All of their rooms were bugged in North Korea, including the phones (no cell phones). In the Dark Side of the Ring episode on this NK trip, Scott Norton discusses his crazy incident while there for the show. The place was terribly boring to him, and he was aggravated with the whole situation. So on a phone call with his wife he said "this place sucks". A few minutes later there were NK military officials escorting him from his room. They ended up just scaring him a bit, but made sure to explain to Norton that derogatory comments like his towards the country was punishable by death.
Now the commies are pushing for that here
If they told me that, I would be like 😮. 😂😂😂😂
how the fug does kim jong un have any fun? i know he can get whatever he wants because hes the ruler but i feel like all of north korea is boring AF and i can't see kim doing any activity except listening to classical music while watching others get murdered.
They don’t joke around. Ask Warmbier
Ahh if only all the libs could experience the same first hand and finally realize how great it is we get to call biden "sleepy joe"
I read that Antonio Inoki was running for re-election in the Japanese House of Councillors, but a lot of scandals were revealed on ties with the Yakuza & embezzlement. He came up with the pro wrestling event in North Korea to push for peace and easing tensions between North Korea, Japan, and the U.S. with hopes that it made many forget those scandals. Kim Jong Il agreed to this event to show his strength as the new leader of North Korea. His father died months before this wrestling event. Eric Bischoff agreed for higher ratings in WCW and beat WWF/WWE back then (This was before NWO existed). This event did not help Antonio Inoki get re-elected or WCW in the ratings (I started watching WCW when I heard Hulk Hogan became a heel and formed NWO). No one outside of North Korea saw Kim Jong Il as a strong or competent leader after this event. Although this is known in history as the world's largest wrestling event, attendance was mandatory where any who didn't go got a bullet in the head.
Ric Flair is a legend
Last thing I expected to hear today is a story about ric flair and Muhammad Ali in north korea together lmao
Flair is one of a kind and it's cool to see how much respect Joe gave him. I love the variety of guests Joe has. One day I'm learning about physics and archeology and the next day he has me laughing at dick jokes. Absolutely love it! (The show....not the dick)
>(The show....not the dick)
What an odd thing to say, I did not consider that as a possibility until you brought attention yourself.
@@notsocrates9529 You also didn't consider that it was a joke that went over your head.
@@TehUltimateSnake It was sarcasm. That joke was dad tier muppet joke.
@@TehUltimateSnakethe joke didn’t go over anyone’s head.
@@HiGlowie ☝️🤓
If you’re interested in more of this story. Go check out
dark side of the ring collision in Korea !!!
I remember watching a documentary saying the Inoki-Flair event in NoKor was the “greatest event no one saw.”
Dang
I loved the part where Ric mentioned Fishersville Virginia. I live one town over from it and saw him lord knows how many times at Expoland in Fishersville Virginia! Great memories!
I Don't live far from fishersville
Ric is a great storyteller
A fuckin’ liar he is, nothing more, nothing less…
Well idk if he’s lying, but the original Nature Boy was Buddy Rodgers. So I’ll take that with a grain of salt
Might be a memory slip, he's credited Buddy before.
Or he's a ego maniac 🙃
@@Darbzila He seems to be more normal here than his other public excursions. But the Nature Boy character has absolutely taken over him.
Nature Boy Buddy Rogers? Nick Bockwinkle he is a rip off of both of them….. but Ric never seen them 😂
The reason Inoki fought like that against Ali, is because shortly before the fight Ali's camp demanded a rule change, which prohibited any wrestling takedowns or judo throws. So Inoki tried to find a loophole by leg scissoring Ali to the ground, where he believed he could submit him.
Maybe a little. But also he could only kick from his back too. There were times the reffed stopped him from kicking while standing.
Stop making excuses! There were no rule changes! Ali would have knocked Inoki out!
@thejughead138 there were lots of stipulations. All in alis favor.
@@johnm3907 This is a lie by the Inoki camp! Ali is no longer here to defend himself! Even if you are correct brother, if Inoki had fought 100 percent unhampered, Ali would have drilled him coming in!
@thejughead138 why did inoki fight the way he did then? And not just take Ali down and beat the shit out of him? Why did the ref gene lebel and a few others come out and say the rules were in alis favor? Why was it that Ali was able to touch the ropes and inoki was forced to let him up?
Inoki is probably the most fascinating human to ever exist.
If I told you there was a guy that had wrestled Brock Lesnar, fought Muhammad Ali, negotiated with Saddam, and hosted an event for Kim Jong Il you wouldn't believe ime.
I know how Ric felt. I went to Jamaica in the early 90's. The hour and a half drive from the airport to the resort in Negril was eye opening to say the least. Never seen poverty like that. The way the locals looked at our bus made me feel like we were meals on wheels. The resort itself was beautiful but the beach was not private and there were some very sketchy characters hanging around. But the reason I'll never go back is at the airport when I was leaving, the bastards dumped my luggage twice, with soldiers with automatic rifles right next to me. I wasn't stupid enough to try and smuggle weed out of there. When you're there they don't care how much you smoke and it was paralyzing. I was so happy when our plane took off and I was on my way back to the U.S.
The dark side of the ring did an episode on this, it was great
*RIC FLAIR IS AMAZING. 72- 73 YO AND DID HIS LAST WRESTLING MATCH. WITH A PACEMAKER, WITH A STOMACH BAG FILLED WITH FESES TYPE BAG, AND ON BLOOD THINNERS. JUST TO MENTION A FEW, AFTER COMING OUT OF A 30 DAY COMA. 13 DAYS INDUCED. SEE RIC FLAIR WITH THEO VON!! 2 HOUR INTERVIEW*
You idolize a millionaire toolbag haha. Dude is the opposite of humble.
Hahaha “tell me later when were alone.” LOL
Flair... I was so glad to get home I kissed the ground...
Joe: What was the food like
Man I stopped liking rogan years ago but I’ll never miss out on a Ric flair interview
Interesting, what turned you off to Rogan?
Look up a guy named Austin Idol he was around right before Flair
The best & the most proper time for Hogan to say "that doesn't work for me brother".
Imagine if he did make that trip we'd probably have a footage of the red & yellow Hogan said North Korea would beat USA easy peasy brother!
Imagine rick slapping Kim….
He would never... but a knife edge chop would be acceptable
Wooo
If he's an athlete like his father (4 hole in 1's & birdied the other 14, 1st time golfing), he's got a shot 😂
@@cheechdubinsky6709 he would tap out to the figure four leglock on the quick quick
It’s RIC!
Someone Should Tell Joe About or Show Joe the Inoki v The Great Antonio Shoot
He really acting like Buddy Rogers didn't exist
I was thinking the same thing lol. Stole another wrestlers gimmick and didn’t give him his props
He mentioned Buddy later on in the interview.
It's confusing because in other interviews from one of the ESPN and Peacock documentaries Ric states quite clearly that he didn't like his early wrestling persona, so after the plane crash he based his new one, including the Nature Boy moniker, bleached hair and robes, on Buddy Rogers.
You mean cocaine? He didn't forget cocaine no one asked him about cocaine.
Buddy rogers borrowed for his gimmick too
Ric, you are absolutely amazing. Merry Christmas
Of all of Joes guests I think Joe is most in awe of Flair.
A large percentage of Black American men and boys love Rick Flair - Woo!
So Ric has never heard of Buddy Rogers? 😂
Joe Namath and Muhammad Ali as heroes. Wow. Only Ric Flair.
These days its only safe to travel with Dennis Rodman to North Korea 🤣
And Steven Segal in Russia
@@billyclub9863what about khabib, everyone in ufc everyone in WWE and AEW and every single Russian population outside Russia?
I think you need to touch some grass and look at some words on a paper
@@billyclub9863russia is still a tourist area, same with Sudan, turkey, Israel, Somalia, etc. The only place not available is N Korea, except for Dennis. That’s the official statement
@@randomcommentator9442 bull shit. Not one’s going to Russia on vacation. Their numbers are way down. But that kinda happens when you kind nap foreigners and lock them up on trumped up spy charges
Flair was inspired by Billy Graham and the original nature boy Buddy Rogers from pro wrestling, he has said it before don't know why he said no here.
Nature Boy Buddy Rogers says hello Ric lol. Nature Boy Buddy Landell was a thing as well...
I'm glad so many people have seen this interview because I think a lot of younger wrestling fans probably don't know about WCW going to North Korea in 1995. I think WCW deserves credit for participating in what at least looked like an attempt to bring Kim Jong Il and North Korea out of the dark ages, but it was ultimately for nothing. In the end, the company should've never went.
The only thing I would change from how it went is that WCW, like WWE did with bringing Mansoor from Saudi Arabia to the United States, should've brought a few athletes from North Korea into the company. At the very least, they would be rescued from that country and people in the west could learn a little more about how terrible North Korea really is.
I think 'Nature Boy' Buddy Rogers might have something to say about Flair not having any influences
Love Ric, but he really should acknowledge Gorgeous George as an influence.
Stuckin North Korea with Ric Flair and Muhammad Ali. Holy fuck what a story
i can't imagine what a glorious timepiece that experience must have been.
could be a tarantino movie, and the history alone!
Only an American would think that haha
Funny that Joe doesn't even know Gene Lebell was refereeing Ali vs Inoki fight.
He could've asked about the rules during his podcast with Gene. Now it's too late.
The story with Inoki is that Inoki wanted to prove wrestling was the best style of fighting, and wanted to fight Ali to prove it. Ali agreed because he thought he could beat anyone in the world. Ali then started watching Inoki training, and started adding rules & stipulations to the fight, or he would back out. Inoki agreed to everything and wanted to "fight" no matter what the rules were, but Ali was scared, and added so many rules that this is what the fight turned into.
I heard stories that the Nation of Islam had threatened Inoki that had if he beat Ali they were gonna hurt him
@@ericbowers1471 That wouldn't surprise me either. But the fact remains that Ali was the one changing the rules... Inoki was willing to fight any time under ANY rules. Ali wasn't.
Ali was never scared your off dope if you thought that
@@user-nx6pg3ye1u Ali wasn't scared... he was terrified. He was smart enough to know that boxing had ZERO chance against a good grappler.
He was all talk, and when it came time to fight he needed to add rules so he didn't get mauled. It's no different today. Tyson Fury is the best boxer in the world, but he knows he would be completely destroyed by a grappler; let alone someone like Jon Jones.
Bullshit!!!! Ali was scared of no one!
Ric is being quite disingenuous.
Ric is obviously influenced by Buddy Rodgers, the orginal Nature Boy.
Flair also used to carry Dusty Rhodes bags when he broke in & wanted to be "Ramblin Ricky Rhodes".
That is when Flair developed his flamboyant persona complete with elaborate robes ( which he directly stole from Dusty ).
Ric did it better then both of them
@@LooseSkrew28 Way better. Also, Ali was himself influenced by the original Gorgeous George.
I really wish the full episode was on UA-cam. Spotify is a mess.
And the held Scott Norton bc they tapped the phones and was telling his wife that it was a shit hole and he thinks he mad a mistake coming there
Ric is such a liar. He has said several times he was influenced by Wahoo and Dusty. He'll he wanted his original ring name to be rambling Ricky Rhodes.
He didn't mention he copied his entire look, name and finisher either
True!
But isn't he specifically talking about promo's here?
Well he was a drunk. Affects the memory
There is a video called "resident evil 2 city ambience" which is what North Korea sounds like.
He wasn't even the original Nature Boy.
I'll give you this Rolex Brother, if you get me on a plane outta here.
I’m also surprised that Joe doesn’t seem to recall how much Ali’s management kept changing the previously agreed upon rules almost daily to hinder Inoki
Bullshit!
Tony Hinchcliff ruined this interview
Is Ric getting senile? When Joe asked if he had any wrestling influences, Ric either lied or he's forgotten. Dusty Rhodes was an influence to Ric and so was a Wrestler named The NATURE BOY Buddy Rodgers. This is not a secret in the Wrestling universe. EVERYONE knows this. Flair originally wanted to be known as "Ricky Rhodes." Dusty told him to be his own personality. That's when he decided to go the Buddy Rodgers route. The robes, the flamboyant behavior, THE NAME, was all influenced by Buddy
So idk why Ric wouldn't say this on JRE. Those of us who are old enough know the truth and how things really happened.
Doesn’t mean they were influences
Ric flair being a wrestler and taking buddy rodgers persona on doesn’t mean flair was influenced by him. Flairs plane crash( you should see his before and after photos unrecognisable) forces flair to move away from being a brawling brute to grapples.
Senile, you wild’n brother. Wooooo
Inspiration buds
@@tomfoyll9344 wut lol
I wouldn't even be satisfied with a draw. Lomaachenko finished the fight with at least winning by 2 rounds, and that's being generous.
At least! There is no reality in where Haney won that fight.
So, the rules stated that inoki could only throw leg kicks if he had one knee touching the canvas. No, throws or anything to that degree was allowed. Craziness
Inoki was kicking legs coz according to contract with Ali's team, he was not allowed to wrestle standing. Only on the ground. They even had unlimited rope breaks for Ali to get out of submission holds without any technical ability.
It was a last minute stipulation from Ali's entourage, after they witnessed a Judoka completely ragdolling a boxer just couple of weeks before their match.
Both Gene Lebell (the referee for their match) and Karl Gotch (Inoki's coach and cornerman) talked about this in separate interviews.
It bugs me how he doesn’t give credit to the original natureboy of wrestling buddy rogers
And all the fight knowledge joe knows...he said Ali vs inoki was a legit fight lmao
😂😂😂
gorgeous george the 50's wrestler is definitely an inspiration
So he's claiming he wasn't influenced by "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers?
Nature boy ric flair is saying that Nature Boy Buddy Rogers didn’t influence him? He is the original nature boy and the original fancy robe wearer
3:50 Joe should get Lawrence Taylor
Audio is too low when you uploaded. Great clip though, thank you
Ric didnt mention nature boy buddy rogers and Gorgeous George who are his main influences...but he's old and probably didnt remember at that moment so ill let it slide
It's amazing to me that Rogan doesn't know the details of the rules. It was going to be a work but Ali decided against it. Then the made certain rules like Inoki basically couldn't wrestle or use any holds. He could only kick if he was down basically so he did the best he could given the restrictions he had.
Rogan doesn't know much about wrestling or how those type of things go. Fans know how matches are delivered and set up. If you don't know much about wrestling you won't know what was done pre match to get the best match possible out in the ring.
@@antonlifer4449 I mean it's pretty obvious but this is a one off and historic event. One of the early attempts at MMA with probably the most famous boxer of all time.
Gene Lebell was the ref I believe. You'd think that someone who is as into MMA as he is would've come across this and thus learned those details...
No Ric ? I guess Buddy Rogers was from an alternate universe .
Yeah, he *totally* "didn't" take any influence from Nature Boy Buddy Rogers before him
Totally didn't copy his strut, his name, his hair, or _anything_
Ric lies RIGHT At the begining of this vid. Or at least he forgot about the VERY FIRST WWWF Champion "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers. Ric said he got his character from Ali, but Ali got a lot of his talking and actions from was Gorgeous George. So in reality Ric got his persona from Gorgeous George, and "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers.
What I did not know this happened this crazy
He said please stfu outta all this time now clay huh ... lmao
I enjoyed watching Flair wrestle. And the duration of his matches are amazing. But I don’t care for his choices in his personal life. I don’t put him on a pedestal like most people do.
Meaning?
The Nature Boy!
Whooooo!! There will never be another.
What about nature boy buddy Rogers , ric stole his whole gimmick. I fixed my typo got a couple Reddit mods in here , to fat to walk the isle .
Yeah he forgets shit like that.
Yea thank you I was going to say what about nature boy Buddy Rodgers
No
@@francisvortex5785 well shoot since you said no it has to be true frank
Take buddy rodgers and shove it! Woooooooo
What a crazy story
No Ric, you didn’t fight him too. You danced with the dude around the ring.
Joe: Didn't you fight a bear that was on dmt in North Korea?
Good storie!!
Old school strong ng style in NJPW was some real shit
This one could be animated.
We get so little historical and multi cultural news that Ric Flair just blew some people’s minds about the state of North Korea and their brutal regime!
You have the internet. look shit up.
Rogan knows about North Korea, he just didn't know how exactly that event came to be and all the other backround info. You can today book a trip to NK, take part in a Marathon there and be treated really nicely
So little anti north-korea propaganda? Maybe if you live under a rock.
Gives no credit to Nature Boy Buddy Rogers…😒
Buddy Rogers
AY MAN TO BE FLAIR... Nature boy stoned af....
The end got me lol. No wonder why we hate them