Easiest way to beat Elizabeth in Persona 3 Reload without Orpheus Telos
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- Опубліковано 13 лют 2024
- Hi everyone, I know I should be working on Relics of Aurelia but I took a break to play the remake of my favorite game of all time: Persona 3!
I've pretty much done everything in P3R and I've noted the character beats and structure that I loved so I'm happy to rationalize this all as research ;)
This new "secret" boss fight with the ultimate opponent is quite different than how it used to be in P3, Fes, and P3P so I wanted to show as well as talk through a neat skip for the hardest part of the battle.
More detailed descriptions of the fight, it's mechanics, and how to beat it without the skip here:
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Muhd Fitri performs the skip here:
• Elizabeth Phase 3 Skip...
If you'd like to keep track of, learn more about, or try out the prototype for the fantasy adventure game I'm making, you can do so here:
plexicrafts.itch.io/relicsofa... - Ігри
Awesome guide! A bit of advice for anyone who is stuck: I kept getting three 9999 Megido attacks in a row no matter what I did, then I realized having a reflect magic attack on from shuffle time fight. I reset it by just doing another fight.
Hey thanks, I really appreciate it and I’m glad it helped! Smart move hopping into another fight to clear the cup haha.
I think there are a few useful ones you can bring in so I think I’ll study up on it a bit!
I sold all my equipment and you can't unequip anything in this game, only swap with sth else. I had armor that had high counter as a passive... so i actually had to look for a special chest in tartarus to get random armor so i can switch with a party member lol. So dumb
God thank you! I was getting really angry as to why she was spamming megido when I had no equipment or persona with any reflects or anything
I'm glad I had this idea. Thank you for the reference ❤
Thanks for the guide. Just used this strat to beat this on merciless. Holy shit it took hours to figure out the damage thresholds to make this work along with the luck I required on crits cuz my magic damage output was too low.
But that little double endure into god hand reflect trick was killer. It was just tough pushing the damage as close as I could to 7k damage without going over, then landing a 1900 dmg crit into getting megidolaon’d twice, into reflecting the last 1100 damage for a buzzer beater barely kill. Used a megidolaon gem for slightly more clearance. That Armageddon finish was glorious.
I couldn’t even use a lot of the personas I made for this fight because I gave em all null physical and Liz’s instakill rule breaker mechanics kept fucking me. Fist time fighting her so that mechanic took me completely off guard.
TLDR: thanks man. I appreciate it. It took awhile for me to get the hang of it AND get A Lucky run, but it worked.
I’m happy I was able to help! Beating her on merciless is the hardest thing you can do in the game so that’s quite a feat!
Congrats!
Thanks for making this video. You explained the mechanism of this fight far better than I did in my video
Thanks for showing me how to do this! I’ve been trying to make a comprehensive guide for this fight so every little bit has been coming together than this huge chunk was so cool to find out about. Props!
one added note, about the third phase. While it is indeed the harder phase in some ways
its actually a bit easier.
It ONLY SEEMS like she is changing persona randomly in the 3rd phase she is in fact repeating a pattern
1. Surt and Jack frost (if you debilitate her at the end of phase 2 after she uses heat riser she will buff instead of attack).
2 - Thor, Cu chullain (Buff and attack)
3 - Metatron, Alice (Attack)/ Rarely may become Thor and Jackfrost
4 - Nebiros, Thor (Nebiros may use Debilitate)
5 - Jack Frost, Thor
6 - Alice, Surt
7 - Cu chullain, Masakado (Megidolaon)
After she runs through these 2 times she will add an 8th turn which will have Alice and Masakado again with a Megidolaon (normal) at the end.
She buffs and debuffs constantly in this phase.
So you can still do this phase without Telos you just have to keep in mind what she has during the next move and to keep counting the HP amount as before.
The ideal strategy to this phase is to punish a specific turn a few times
btw the "cycle" limit only counts when she reaches Masakado so dont worry about that at all its very rare to run out of time in this boss im not even sure if you can.
This is really helpful to know! I’m doing a special challenge run trying to beat Liz in a silly sort of way and I had all the math come together well except for being able to beat her within 50 turns. I was like sheesh I’m barely making a dent on her in phase 3, I need to play riskier and ate too much damage and lost my last endure haha
@@Plexicraft Its best to keep the Endure and Enduring soul on a different persona from your attackers or other persona.
With the 3rd phase its a slow and steady type of deal especially with her buffing and debuffing, so finding an opening takes time which is why Telos with physical is good for it.
Without that you gotta be prepared for what she does, and punish those tiny openings.
@@mastermindmonokuma I just did a challenge where I used Chi You as my only persona and man I wish I could have found a way to skip phase 3 haha.
Was a ton of hoping I’d have enough buff and debuff items to make it!
Thank you for making this video, it really helped a lot finally got it after 5 days trying 🤭
Hey congrats, happy to help :D
Thanks for the video, today I beat Elizabeth🤙🏻
Just got the clear, appreciate the guide sir.
Congrats! Happy I could help :)
Sorry, how exactly does the phase 3 skip work? I'm coming from reddit (thanks for the post, by the way, really helpful) so I'm not 100% on how to do it. Is it simply that you Armageddon her right before you trigger phase 3?
Hey happy to help!
Phase 1 is you get her from 20k hp to 13k hp.
Phase 2 is when you need to get her from 13k hp to 10k hp.
Phase 3 has her notice you have taken half her health and she will respond by healing to full.
You then need to damage her to below 10k hp again and immediately Armageddon.
But, if you get her to reflect the last portion of damage that will get her from phase 2 to phase 3 (eg: she has 10,499 HP and you reflect her gods hand and it does 500 or more damage) she will trigger her “you broke a rule” coding and Megiddo you instead of healing.
In that case you can then just immediately Armageddon her and skip phase 3.
Let me know if I can get into any better detail :)
Edit: you do need to tank two 9999 pixie megidolaons at the end of phase 1 and phase 2 so the best way to do this is with enduring soul for the first and ensure for the second.
Rly cool guide man, I wanted to know tho do u know a good spot to try to farm for ice boost skill cards? Or maybe just a skadi recipe that can inherit it? Mine has amp + single target boost but no ice boost
Happy to help!
I use this guide to help me farm cards:
aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/p3r/skills
I think you need a red sword card with 5 swords on it. That should have a chance to give you ice boost. Not quite sure but it can likely be found around the 100 level of Tartarus.
If you’re getting lower or higher cards just grab a teleporter and adjust your search accordingly :)
Alright, thank you so much man!
Yo, used your strategy to finally beat Elizabeth in hard mode. It was a big pain not being able to get firm stance on my Chi You cuz I didn't max out Strength Arcana(which as far as I know, is the only way to get firm stance with no dlc, might be wrong tho) which made harder but got it done nonetheless. Really good guide video man, helped me out a lot. Now I have a maxed out Skadi with 99 Magic stat💀
Congrats! And I’m happy the guide helped! Yeah, that Skadi sounds like a beast. I’m not sure exactly how I got Firm Stance on Chi You but I do have all max social links on this run so could have been through the strength persona. I’ve been busy building Chi You in a specific way and the pieces finally came together so I was able to make one that I used as the sole persona to beat Elizabeth. Was a fun little challenge haha
Just about to finish my first play through. I’m leaving reaper for ng and this fight for maybe the run after.
Persona superbosses are no joke.
Great guide. I haven't managed to win just yet, I think my team is sub-optimal. But I wanted to mention something I noticed. At around 8:15 you say that hitting Surt with Skadi would normally lead to a rule break when Jack Frost comes out, but I've noticed consistently that if I hit her previous Persona's weakness, she skips the one she would've used that turn. So if on turn 2 I use Skadi's diamond dust, she'll skip right over Jack Frost and hit me with Thor that same turn instead.
Good point, I’m not quite sure how the mechanics work but I believe if you do enough damage, she will skip a persona rotation.
@@PlexicraftI figured it was matching the weakness that did it but you may be right, I had Skadi hitting for like 4500 damage so it could just be due to the big number. Either way it worked and I was able to win in 12 turns, so thanks for the guide!
@@neurop0d awesome! Congrats on the win!
What did you do to make your Trickster Theurgy reach around 2.500+ dmg?
I'm already at lv.99, I used Telos and he's around 95+, but I can only deal around 1.700 at best.
My Helel has almighty Amp so when I concentrate, debilitate, and heat riser/start with my auto buffs (and she doesn’t buff her defense or nerf my attack) it slams pretty hard.
@@Plexicraft 50% almighty Amp or 25%?
@@RareT888 his almighty boost turned into amp when I made him so I believe it’s 50%
@Plexicraft I only got 25% where can I get 50%
@@RareT888 I believe you’d need to try to fuse Helel multiple times in hoping one of its skills will turn into the Amp. I think my Boost changed into Amp and I just stuck with it. It’s definitely not required to do the skip, you just need a way to get from 7k to 9k ish for phase 2.
Ok I’ve clearly missed something since I’ve never fought Elizabeth before how does this happen? An won’t homunculus stop the 9999 damage or is that only specifically for ohko moves
homunculus prevent instant death from mudo and hama skills, not raw damage.
She’s quite a prescriptive boss fight, I have a guide I linked in the video description that explains her rules and how to get around them. In short, homunculi will only stop instant kill attacks not attacks that do actual damage.
Nice
Megido loans from the Velvet bank? 😆 meh-gi-doe-lah-on
Whoa today I learned that the “o” and the “a” are in the other order haha
Megidoloan just rolls so much easier!
this method doesn't seem to work on hard mode... I'm using a few different Personas that are in the video, but they have the skills that are used presented in the video When i get to the part of reflecting her attack and releasing Amaggerdon on her, she somehow survive with a little HP left and afterwards she heals herself with Pixie and ends the round with a Megidolaon. Im a little frustrated since im trying to defeat her for four days, and i really dont want to change the dificult mode because this become a little personal.
Well, this is for hard/merciless honestly.
You need to keep in mind that you'll have to put up with some RNG along with the fact that you need to create builds for your persona. It'll take awhile but you're probably gonna have to create some personas and grind off of fighting Reapers in order to prepare for this fight.
@@angrydiddykong262 I didn't quite understand what you meant...but I'm playing on hard mode. Although I'm not using the exact personas from the video, the ones I use have the skills that are used in the video because of the cards I have equipped. My only problem is when it gets to the part of using Amagerdon on Elizabeth because it doesn't hitkill her... somehow she ends up with a little bit of HP and then when it's her turn she defeats me.
You need to make sure her reflected god hand is what puts her over 10k total damage so your 9999 Armageddon can kill her.
This means getting as close to 7k as possible, then doing your biggest charged/concentrated attack when you have buffed attack and she has debuffed defense.
Do I need firm stance? How can I get it? I can't max out sun or strenght s.links before 31/1 so any other demons?
Asura (91), Atavaka (79), Castor (70) all get Firm Stance.
You don’t need it but it makes the fight a lot easier. Ali Dance can work as well. You can make a Saki Mitama and level it to maybe tank a bunch of stuff since it starts with 4 resists and no rule breaks.
Skadi build correctly does work on this fight with ice focused passives.
Thanatos can do really well on most turns too.
made saki and gonna try liz soon@@Plexicraft
@@Manudyne nice! Good luck with it :)
thank you @@Plexicraft
Hopefully a merciless guide comes out soon.
There’s a link to a merciless win in my description if that helps.
It’s the same strat of get as close as possible to 7k, do your best charged/concentrated attack while she has low defense and you have high attack buff, close any more of the 10k gap you think you need with another attack, pass 10k with a persona reflecting her god hand.
Is Lucifer’s blade required for this to work? I unfortunately got maxed out Mamoru on January 31st and didn’t have any time to get it out if him.
Unfortunately, maxing the Star social link is required to get access to the Fusion Spell Armageddon. So while the blade isn’t necessary, having Helel to make the fusion spell the bigger loss here.
I’ve seen people beat her without Armageddon but they do have the Lucifer blade when doing so. Not sure how much of a difference it makes but could be worth trying to emulate a non Armageddon fight where you don’t necessarily rush the 2nd phase like you do here, you rush the “4th phase” that I essentially skip with Armageddon.
Edit: I’m dumb and can’t reading comprehend. You should be fine without the blade :)
@@Plexicraft thanks! I was stressing so hard to get Armageddon because I only had a file saved back to the 15th and I had just enough time to max him out but was a little saddened when I couldn’t get the blade lol. I may need to level my personas some more because my trickster does nowhere near that amount of damage on her right now.
@@koopakoop1264 hahaha what a buzzer beater!
Using Armageddon to farm the reaper and using Elizabeth to heal on the last day should get your chosen team nice and high level.
You got this!
@@Plexicraft hey me again lol, I’m a little confused as to how your skadi did over 4,000 damage. My stats are very similar and I have all the same skills on her plus I used diamond dust during the surt turn with her defense down,y attack up and concentrate but I only did just under 2,000 so she had like 31 hp after my Armageddon
@@koopakoop1264 Ahhh that’s brutal. Sorry to hear it.
To answer your question, a few things might be going on:
I’m playing on normal difficulty which means any damage done in hard or merciless will be lower (outside of the god hand she’ll do to herself, that will actually be higher funnily enough).
Also, I only use Skaadi when I know she has debuffed defense and I have buffed attack and I have concentrate.
If any of those 3 things haven’t lined up, I reset the round and let her go through her cycle to ensure I can do as much damage as possible to bridge the gap.
My Skaadi also has pretty much every damage passive possible (amp, boost, single target boost) which will add up.
Not sure what other factors I may be missing but those should be the significant ones.
dude i have no idea why but elizbeth gets into the 2nd phase when i do around 7500K damage and im not sure why, i calculate my damage to the number but its always around 7000-8500 then she starts her 2nd phase. I honestly have no idea what im doing wrong
Hmm are you sure you’re not maybe getting to 6850 or something then hitting a juicy 1k+ attack?
What difficulty are you on if you don’t mind me asking? I don’t know it it makes a difference but I did my run on normal.
@@Plexicraft I’m on hard mode and maybe that could be a problem, I always do a 1k+ damage skill around there maybe I jump TOO fast
@@Gooblinnnn I see, the main idea is making sure her Gods Hand is able to reflect the damage that gets you from phase 2 (7k damage or more but under 10k) to 10k.
If you atrophy sutra or defense down Elizabeth on the turn she’ll use gods hand and also have a reflect strike persona out, that hit should go for about 800-1k damage on merciless difficulty. This means you just need to get to phase 2, do about 2200k is damage after the 7k and then set up the reflect.
I used Skadi here and bridged my 5k ish damage to 9k ish, then reflected the damage that would bring her to 10k total.
Another way is to go from something like 6,999 damage or as close to it but not over it as possible, get a nice chunky 1 or 2k hit in to start phase two, chip damage the remainder in while still remaining under 10k but still be ready on her Gods hand turn to have your strike reflect persona out (reflect item will not work, has to be a persona or she’ll heal first instead).
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but my trickster only does about 1100 completly souped up. (Atk up, her def down, and a concentrate) While I see yours does 2700. I could 100% be missing something, but would love some help
I think it might be a difficulty thing in retrospect, I am on merciless
@@Vidzaes You hit the nail on the head. I’m on Normal. Merciless is much harder and will rely more on your use of a nuker like Skadi to get those bigger numbers.
But on the other hand (lol), Elizabeth’s God Hand in phase 2 can do about 500 more damage to herself on Merciless so when you reflect, you won’t need to bridge as much of the gap beforehand.
I've been trying to do this on hard and I either can't bridge the threshold after doing 7,000 damage or I can't get my theurgy gauge back up in time for the final hit.
Try to save your theurgy to bridge the gap. Save Fuukas theurgy for the bridge as well. Use a concentrated/charged attack on her when she’s close to 7k and has defense down with your offense up.
If she buffs or debuffs you damage wise, reset her cycle and just heal/guard until she has defense down and your attack is up.
Other than that, make sure you have a great single target set up like: diamond dust, ice boost, ice amp, and single target boost.
@@Plexicraft I do have helel with morning star and a single target boost skill card I could use. If I give that skill to helel,in theory morning star should do more damage right?
@@NinjaGirlSakura1 you’ll want to use multitarget boost for morning star, I believe it’s a multi target attack. The boost goes towards the type of skill rather than the amount of people it actually hits.
Having almighty boost and almighty amp will help.
@@Plexicraft I did get Skadi with everything but ice boost. I don't have a skill card for that,and I'm not sure which persona I could fuse Skadi with so that skill carries over
@@NinjaGirlSakura1 I’d look to farm the skill card for it, it might be easier.
It should be on a red sword card (one with 5 swords on it) which I think would mean somewhere in the early 100s in terms of floor level.
I tried using a satan with black viper instead of a helel to do damage, but even with st boost + all mighty boost + all mighty amp he only manages to do around 1k damage per charged black viper
Oh wow that’s so odd, are you buffing and debuffing?
@@Plexicraft She used heat raise after i debilitated her, but i'd hope i'd be doing more damage even with regular defense. I was heat raised + concentrated and used incense to boost satans magic to 99.
@@Plexicraft Kinda, Elizabeth had regular defense when i attacked because she just heat raised my debilitate, but i don't think it would have done that much of a difference.
@@evild6208Buffs and Debuffs are a 50% Boost/Reduction so her taking 1k with normal defense would probably be increased to around 1.7k depending on your stats and built
Is there any achievement to defeat her? Or is it just a test of skill?
thanks
Nothing really, you do get the strongest charm in the game that makes you immune to all damage besides almighty when you beat her but… if you beat her, you’re likely not worried about any other battle or series of battles due to how strong you are.
No achievement either.
@@Plexicraft So basically I had to eat her Megidolaon a couple times just to get nothing? Except the omnipotent thing i guess which is op
@@Yurihyuga766 haha yeah pretty much. I just figure if you’re in a position where you can get the omnipotent orb… you really have no need for it ;)
@@Plexicraft Jeez I thought I wouldn’t have to look up how to beat Elizabeth and end up here just because of the twins in P5, despite the fact that I didn’t even fight Lavenza yet since I only have regular P5. I ended up here because I didn’t know that she doesn’t like it when you have null, drain, and repel on your persona
@@Yurihyuga766 Yeah there’s quite a few rules to the fight that you pretty much need a guide for.
Edit: TLDR PSA DO NOT USE THE PHYSICAL REFLECTING ITEM, BRING A PERSONA WITH REFLECT STRIKE AFFINITY
I have tried this strat and no matter what after the turn where I tank the first Megidoloan with Enduring Soul, she always immediately uses Diarahan and then Megidoloan again. She doesn't use God Hand at all. She does this regardless if her HP is over 10000, below 10000 or over 11000.
I suspect it's because I didn't use a persona with a Reflect affinity, but instead used an item that sets up a physical reflect barrier. But nowhere have I ever heard anyone say using that specific item is breaking one of the rules.
Edit: yeah wth I tried using the item on turn 1, immediate Diarahan and Megidolaon 😂
Yeah, has to be a reflect persona rather than the item. Likely because of the plausible deniability ;)
But i thought if you resist any element she just insta kills you
Resist is fine. If she gets repelled, absorbed or has any damaged blocked by a persona, you will have trigger a rule break.
If you use any item in the battle that would cause those things to happen, you’ll trigger a rule break even before it happens. (If you use attack mirror to try to reflect she will spot it, not attack and just heal/ megido you which is why you need a persona with strike repel to do the skip).
My skadi missed... SHE MISSED!!!!
Noooooo!
Gotta make sure your accuracy is up or her evasion isn’t up before you go for the big hit.
What i can use if I don't have "Melchizedek" and if i don't have endure ?
Sid’s jacket comes with endure which can only be work if you’re also wearing shoes of bane (blocks Alice’s die for me spell and otherwise the endure will be used before homuculi which means you won’t have it when you need it).
You can also get it from red sword cards that have 9 swords on them.
Repel strike can be gotten from red sword cards that have “12” swords on them.
I believe you can get to “twelve sword cards” by doing an arcana burst and farming the highest level cards in Tartarus.
More info here: aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/p3r/skills
@@Plexicraft I give up, on all my attempts I generally block at 130,000 hp. I don't have Almight amp, I'm around 2500 damage with theurgy.
With Skadi I can't do enough damage to put it below 10800. From 14000 I can't deal enough damage, every time I go below 130000 and I don't have enough damage x)
(Sorry if i make mistake, i'm french)
@@yami6550 when looking to take her from 13k hp to 10k, you need make sure your attack is buffed, her defense is down, you have concentrate up, you have a theurgy ready to go, you have Fuukas theurgy ready to go (just scan the boss a few times prior), and you have a persona with a set up like single target, ice amp, ice boost, and diamond dust to do a huge nuke to start with at the start then follow up with a trickster with your enduring soul persona.
That should get you very close (if not go over 10k total damage) on any difficulty and you should then be able to atrophy sutra or defense down her and swap out your strike repel persona for the reflect.
This is not Merciless right? Dmg is too high.
I dont think you need Telos even in Merciless .
Yep this is normal.
would an attack reflecting item work?
It won’t, the logic is kind of like “that’s 100% a rule break and she’ll full heal before the megido punish once you use it. But having a Persona out that can reflect a type of attack may not rule break since most of the time you’re not 100% sure which type of attack she’ll use… which has her not spend that turn punishing but instead doing a regular turn which gives you just enough time to Armageddon before she can full heal.”
@@Plexicraft ah I see. I can now get to phase 3 fairly consistently so if I die in phase 3 again I may just go find a persona with reflect strike and do this.
@@jonathanodude6660 nice, good luck with the runs. You got this!
How do I get enduring soul
Fuse Shiva, Koumokuten, or
Anat to get it early.
Messiah and Thanatos also get it once leveled up a bit more and maybe a couple of others do as well, I don't recall.
In 1st turn she use almighty skill and do damage 9999 to me and i die...😂😂😂...can i dogde thiss skill?
No but you are breaking some sort of rule she has and if it’s turn one it’s most likely that you have a “reflect first one skill next battle” blue cup card activated. Just try to do one battle before this then try her again to see if that’s the issue.
She keeps surviving with a sliver of HP after I use Armageddon. FFS.
Ah, gotta try to squeeze closer to the 7k or find a way to get more damage into the second phase before the reflect :/
@@Plexicraft Finally defeated her today. Thanks for the guide! She's definitely more annoying to face than the other Velvet Room Attendants. Haven't fought Theodore before, but I imagine he is programmed similarly to Liz.
@@namishusband818 hey congrats! Enjoy your omnipotent orb :D
Phew man, this is a boss battle that reminded back of the PS2 days a good bit. (First time Persona player here)
I used this video to come up with a strat of my own. Pulled it off with a bit less finesse than this. (Used Loki DLC, Helel, Skadi, Kohryu, Melch, Chi You, Metatron, Cendrillion, and Messiah) For some reason, Skadi at Lvl. 99 wasn't enough to bridge the gap? (Was just under it from your video) So instead of healing towards the end, I did basic sword attacks for 1 turn and then used God's Hand from Melch to turn it over in my favor. It was just enough for Armageddon to kill her.
Awesome, good job adapting on the fly! Congrats on the win :)
Sword I used was Deus Xiphos
@@hafuridotus I’m not familiar with it, what sort of effect does it have?
@@Plexicraft It's the next to last tier of weapons from the Antique Dealer? Strength + 7 and ignore all enemy resistances.
@@hafuridotus oh nice pick, that sounds really flexible for this fight :)
Best way to get almighty amp? Skill change during fusion?
I just spam fused personas with some high level skills.
I got Amp from Almighty Boost but I heard someone got it from Ali Dance too.
I think I got it randomly after fusing the Helel and his almight boost changed to amp.
It helps the Trickster Theurgy I believe but it's not a deal breaker I'd spend too much time on. Just make sure you have the damage pieces to fill the gaps and you should be good to go.
If you go with the Skadi strat I use, the difference between Amp and Boost for Helel will not matter in the slightest due to how much of a difference in damage Skadi will do. Just gotta hope you close but under 10k :)
Is it really impossible for someone to win a fight without using Armageddon?
Once you get her below 10k health, I think she just heals and megido spams so Armageddon is the only way I know of to end the fight.
it is impossible unless you play on merciful diff
has this been patched?
I doubt it will be. It’s a prescriptive PvE fight so I don’t see a reason why it would be changed.
It's been something you can do since the original P3, if they wanted it patched they would've when Reload came out. Or FES, or Portable, or any of the other rereleases.
Patch what? Skipping the phase?
This is just kinda mechanically how the fight works. You can do something similar in the original but you just had to have a calculator and didn't need to be clever like reflect some damage
I think so, tried it 2 times today and she healed back from 1hp instead of the 9999 mark... I did it a third time following a video step by step and it happened again so this has to be patched
@@JBNVZ She’ll heal back any time you Armageddon without killing her. Are you positive you calculated you did enough damage for her gods hand reflection to get her over the 10k +1 damage point?
Since she has 20k HP:
If you had done exactly 9500 damage to her and only reflected 500 damage with the gods hand for example, she’d have 10k health left, she’d Megiddo you since you broke the reflect rule, you Armageddon to do 9999 damage, she has 1 hp, she heals because you broke the “use armageddon without killing her” rule.
Edit: I just checked, it still works. Pretty sure you just didn’t do enough damage to her in phase 2 to have her god’s hand bridge the 10,001 total damage break point.
I highly doubt they will patch this, it’s a PvE game and there isn’t even an achievement for wining this fight.
I hate how much effort you gotta put into this bro it’s too complicated for my brain to grasp :/
It’s a lot of prep work and some pretty rigid execution, I get what you mean. I enjoyed that it gave me an excuse to get deeper into fusion crafting though :)
@@Plexicraft yeah well I did eventually figure out how to beat here (I just changed my single target with multi target and followed some steps that said to make sure you had max therugy the double damage cup card and syphild aura however the one shot was random so you had to keep retrying till you one shot Ted her luckily I got it on my 2nd to 3rd try and beat her )
@@TheRealMakotoYuki675 Congrats! Enjoy the omnipotent orb :)
@@Plexicraft yeah and I beat the game so can’t wait to bully shadows early game with this 🤣
@@TheRealMakotoYuki675 haha absolutely!
Armageddon?
It’s the Theurgy you get when you have fused both Helel and Satan. It does 9999 damage and is the only way to end the Elizabeth fight that I know of.
It is. Drop her too far and she'll start the 9999 Megidolaon spam.
mega easy😂
Is the fortune telling needed? I decided to do this on the last day (1/31) and it wouldn’t let me do the theurgy fortune for some reason.
Good question. I don’t think it’s needed. Just bank the theurgies as needed for the breakpoints :)
@@Plexicraft Yea I figured just wasn’t sure if you had that effect in the video thanks!