Why Fortnite Needs To Remove Turbo Building...

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  • Опубліковано 18 лис 2024

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  • @Mr_GigglyFarts
    @Mr_GigglyFarts 4 дні тому +49

    Anyone who agrees with this self centered perspective is out of touch. You say Fortnite has changed? Sure, it has and so have the players. You’re stuck in the past, believing that without turbobuilding there wouldn’t be any “sweats.” Judging by your gameplay, it seems like you’ve taken a break from the game. What happens when you stop playing? Skill gaps emerge.
    So now you can’t play like you used to? And you want the game to change just so you can feel good about yourself again? That’s not how it works. The world isn’t going to bend to your ego adapt and grow instead.
    As for the “luck” argument nonsense. Saying “I can’t do anything in an open field in Zero Build” is just an excuse. Don’t put yourself in those situations; there’s always a way to influence the outcome.
    And claiming Fortnite has done nothing for new players? That’s just wrong. What about skill based matchmaking? What about bot lobbies? What about Creative mode? These tools exist to help players improve. The reality is, you don’t want to put in the effort to get better.
    Face it: Fortnite isn’t the problem you are. If you can’t accept that, maybe it’s time to drop the game and move on.

    • @teamsquare7910
      @teamsquare7910 4 дні тому +5

      This, players don’t realize that if sweats are 12 year olds with no jobs, they will always have more time to learn and get better than you, if anything turbo building would widen the skill gap

    • @kjowl
      @kjowl  3 дні тому +8

      Your a complete bot. Its not only my "self centered perspective" many people have suggested this same idea but I guess I am a self centered, egotistical person who cant play the game. Like what? I think you are being self centered and being narrow minded with a comment like this.
      Fortnite has became a gigantic ad, collab after collab, drastic change after another. Why is it a nonsensible argument saying that positioning can be luck based, or that turbo building sped up the overall games mechanics big time. I even put a disclaimer in the first 30 seconds of the video saying that I do not think turbo building should be taken out of competitive. I should have said maybe in a LTM or some type of mode to test things out. We haven't had no turbo build in over 7 years, and Fortnite has experimented with a bunch of stuff over the years. How would this be any different than something like, bullet drop instead of hit scan, or the huge movement changes?
      It is the only game out there that has a building mechanic and that's why it is special. There is a reason people play Fortnite rather than pubg or cod warzone or apex legends. If you completely take out the building it makes it a completely different game. I like zero builds and I am a open minded person. It is literally just an idea I put out there, the game was popular back then, so why fix what isn't broken was pretty much some of the thinking I had when making this video.
      I like turbo building, however my idea on no turbo building was just a idea on how to combat building to make it less rewarding so it still remains a building game but doesn't give building this effect where you have to absolutely know how to build to be good at the game. HOWEVER, I am not ignorant of the fact how badly that would kill competitive so I would never want that to just completely replace competitive, fast pace building gameplay.
      You also got no positioning to tell me how to play the game, or telling me I should "drop the game and move on", who the hell are you buddy? Also how the hell am I the problem? That statement makes no sense lmao. You Fortnite meat riders are so diabolical, like there is a huge reason why people don't play the game anymore, its because of you cringey ass kids who were probably not even in the womb before this game even came out. People don't talk about Fortnite as much for a reason, it has absolutely nothing to do with me not improving at the game or taking a break, or anyone else. I would have never have taken a break if the game did not feel like a completely different game and change (art style/graphical changes, incredibly fast building pace, cool metas like double pump)
      I think its important to take a step back and just look at where did the learning curve for building go from linear to exponential. I think building is great how it is, however it may be too quick for players and its a very popular argument why people don't like to play because new players can be so intimidated by the fast building.
      Saying one is "stuck in the past" is also such a dumb statement. Season OG came out last year, and they even made a tweet that they were shocked at how many people came to return. If that's the case than everyone is stuck in the past, Orrrrr the game was just better. So, just to make things clear,
      - this was literally a 5 minute video
      - i had a disclaimer wanting to keep it in comp, but maybe implementing this into casual (meaning some sort of LTM or something to test it however I did not specify in the video so my fault.)
      - i am not gonna drop the game because of a literal 12 year old meat riding epic games
      - skill gaps do emerge because of people not playing as much, however I am not mad over it (i want comp building to stay the exact same). Just want to see it at least for a short period and see if it really is something from the past, or something that really would make the game more dumbed down.
      - 1v1 me bro, ill live stream it.

    • @Vizzyfn6
      @Vizzyfn6 3 дні тому +3

      omg thank you

    • @Mr_GigglyFarts
      @Mr_GigglyFarts 2 дні тому +1

      @@kjowl I hear what you’re saying, and I appreciate you clarifying your idea for a no-turbo-building mode in casual play. Testing it as an LTM could provide valuable insights into how it would work in today’s meta. My main issue is less with your idea itself and more with the reasoning behind it. Let me explain.
      Fortnite has always thrived on being different. Its unique building mechanics are what set it apart from games like PUBG, Warzone, or Apex Legends. Turbo building may have sped up gameplay, but that evolution helped Fortnite stay relevant in a competitive gaming space. Removing turbo building, even in a limited mode, risks diluting what makes Fortnite so distinctive. Testing bullet drop or movement mechanics is different because they refine the game without undermining its identity.
      You also mentioned that new players find fast building intimidating, and that’s a fair point. But that’s exactly why systems like skill-based matchmaking and bot lobbies exist-to give newer players a chance to learn and improve. The issue isn’t the mechanics; it’s whether players are willing to put in the effort to adapt. If anything, LTMs like Zero Build already address this concern for players who want a more straightforward experience.
      As for nostalgia, I understand why players might feel the game was ‘better’ in earlier seasons. But the game needs to evolve to stay fresh. What worked then wouldn’t necessarily hold up in today’s gaming environment, where player expectations and the industry have changed dramatically. The overwhelming response to OG Fortnite last year isn’t just about nostalgia; it’s about Epic understanding how to keep that balance between innovation and familiarity.
      Lastly, I stand by my earlier point: adapting to the game’s evolution is part of the challenge. Wanting to test changes is fine, but calling for fundamental mechanics to be nerfed to level the playing field for casual players risks alienating the core audience who thrives on mastering those mechanics. Fortnite isn’t perfect, but its core mechanics the speed, the building, and the constant change are what keep it unique and relevant. And hey, if you really want to 1v1, I’m down but just know I’m in Europe, so be ready for some ping differences. 😉

    • @asbi2022
      @asbi2022 2 дні тому

      @@Mr_GigglyFarts building was completly new and intimidating back then too they're just finfing excuses like the itachi pfp made me laugh cuz cuz building is not even that hard when you just understand the 3rd person camera edits and building grid they're acting like builds is a phd in nuclear eingineering lmao

  • @AM22311
    @AM22311 3 дні тому +5

    As someone who is unreal 50k in ranked battle royal, they should add this to the chapter 1 map ONLY. And not in comp WHATSOEVER. I understand what your trying to say, but i feel that adding this change to everything would be a mistake. And also, the reason i like this idea, even tho im good at fortnite builds, is because im an OG, I started in chapter 1 season 1 to be exact, and i feel that will bring back that feeling of fighting noobs, intense games - only because the stakes are higher - and honestly nostalgia as a whole. Also, for the og gamemode, i feel like they should add old graphics, and old weapons (like the og pump, after it got fixed/no double pumping - even though that would be so awesome - and no sniper-pump
    Iykyk

  • @teamsquare7910
    @teamsquare7910 4 дні тому +7

    You’re missing a key talking point, Fortnite has been out for seven years dawg.. if they removed turbo building people would figure out and continue to make building the meta

  • @Real_Joeshark
    @Real_Joeshark 2 дні тому +3

    Rage bait used to be believable 😔

  • @Theknightman-wg1dz
    @Theknightman-wg1dz 2 дні тому

    Turbo building is important, even for non-sweats. Sometimes you don’t know where a shot is coming from so you just have to box up quick to not die

  • @TheLazyCat000
    @TheLazyCat000 4 дні тому +12

    i dont agree. there will alway be sweats, even without turbo building, and there will always be bad players. what i mean is there will always be a skillgap. the solution to this problem for bad players is to simply get good.

    • @hpvsavage3608
      @hpvsavage3608 4 дні тому +1

      and sweats get jobs fr

    • @Mr_GigglyFarts
      @Mr_GigglyFarts 4 дні тому

      @@hpvsavage3608mad cuz bad🫡

    • @Theknightman-wg1dz
      @Theknightman-wg1dz 2 дні тому +1

      My issue with sweats is that they just get rid of the fun. I’m not a terrible player, but I’m nowhere near a sweat, mostly because I’m not playing to be competitive, I’m playing to have fun. I goof around and don’t spend all my time on the game. There is normally always someone who will not even hesitate to kill me whenever I’m messing around, wether it be dancing, or anything else

    • @TheLazyCat000
      @TheLazyCat000 2 дні тому +1

      @@Theknightman-wg1dz removing turbo building wouldnt solve this issue

    • @Theknightman-wg1dz
      @Theknightman-wg1dz День тому

      @@TheLazyCat000 I know that, I never said that was the case. I like turbo building. I’m just talking about sweats

  • @BrutusTerraria
    @BrutusTerraria 4 дні тому +2

    i like this idea but i just dont think that the 12 year olds will like it even if its only in comp

    • @kjowl
      @kjowl  3 дні тому

      I mean even make it like a LTM to try it, I don't understand how everyone is so tight in these comments over a "I wish they did this" type of video.

  • @Just_gaming723
    @Just_gaming723 2 дні тому

    I personally don't think that they will do this to the main game since they already have zero builds and this will definitely anger a lot of the sweats that have spent so much time getting good with fast builds and also just enjoy the way the game feels at the moment however I think this a good idea and there could definitely be some kind of in-between mode from fortnite builds to no-builds, so the game would play out a lot similar to how it did around chapter 1 season 3, you know with people building one by ones and making more bases. maybe some kind of tactical fornite mode, with slower builds, maybe fewer materails and stronger builds they have more hp or something like that.

  • @nicosnycclubhouse6669
    @nicosnycclubhouse6669 2 дні тому +1

    nah the sweats need turbo building for the game to be fun, so there should be a suppurate mode without turbo building, they shouldn't completely remove it.

  • @cavical
    @cavical 2 дні тому

    Fortnite already tried this in season x and it literally the most hated change, even more than the mechs in the same season

  • @Drum1x
    @Drum1x 3 дні тому +1

    i agree with what you said, but i would think that it would make the learning curve higher and increase the skill cap in a way. people would just learn to play without turbo building and holding walls with all the spray weapons they add would be pretty difficult. i think it could be implemented in some way though.

  • @elpryor
    @elpryor 4 дні тому +6

    the real villain is editing

    • @kjowl
      @kjowl  3 дні тому +1

      Indeed, I should've spent more time editing this.

    • @yourlefttoe1914
      @yourlefttoe1914 2 дні тому

      ​@@kjowlI think he means editing walls...

  • @StudentOfFN
    @StudentOfFN 2 дні тому +7

    A clown playing ZB talking about turbo building. You have no clue what you're talking about. Play save the world where there turbo building is slower, the builds feel awful, sluggish and inconsistent. The main problem with building is how over powered it is when you have 0 or low ping. But thats something a zb drone wouldnt know about

  • @J-ir4ge
    @J-ir4ge 4 дні тому +3

    at the start you should include night. its always maybe 3am to me when you upload.

  • @salomtau5796
    @salomtau5796 2 дні тому

    A lot of people aren’t even listening to the video, there is merit to turbo build of course but the video is mainly about the imbalance between aim and build dependence. He isn’t saying remove building and the skill building needs, it’s a call to make building less of the master that it is over Fortnite. Meaning other skills such as aim is taken into consideration in fights rather than how fast you can build or edit.

  • @mister4871
    @mister4871 2 дні тому +2

    worst take oat just get better or play zerobuild

  • @yourlefttoe1914
    @yourlefttoe1914 2 дні тому

    How about they bring back the ground war ltm from chapter 1 as a permanent game mode. Way better than removing turbobuild.

  • @NotTheDotDot
    @NotTheDotDot 2 дні тому

    I dont really think the issue is turbo building, i think the issue are the sweats and SBMM, like either you win by playing against bots, or you lose against sweats who obliterate you. Times change, and yeah it isn't fun at all, not the fault of turbo building, which is why zb exists

    • @jacksumis
      @jacksumis 2 дні тому

      Zero build is not true fortnite, its like a weird integration. I think that turbo building being taken out would allow for fights to be more reliant on combat (like zero build), but also allow people to build (like real fortnite).

    • @NotTheDotDot
      @NotTheDotDot 2 дні тому

      @@jacksumis Like OG ig

    • @jacksumis
      @jacksumis 2 дні тому

      @@NotTheDotDot Kind of, but like you said times change. Fortnite would still be 10x harder than it originally was, but it would just reduce the skill gap, which would allow for more players.

  • @zeit1_
    @zeit1_ 2 дні тому

    don't ever cook again bro, only sb players will like that changes and in some months it would be the same as before they changed it, people complain about anything

  • @StudentOfFN
    @StudentOfFN 2 дні тому +1

    11 ping in game and you play no builds 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Please just stop talking about builds forever...stick to zb you're playing a completely different game solely because you're a wimp. You have the biggest advantage in the game over 99% of the players

  • @55Mins
    @55Mins 2 дні тому

    I personally disagree with you due to the fact that people who make their living off of playing the game and compete at the highest level would be completely recked by this kind of change this late on into the games life cycle.
    I do get where you are coming from but i do think that there is a fact that people get better over time and that is the same with any game, not just fortnite.

  • @JacobMcKeown-o3y
    @JacobMcKeown-o3y 2 дні тому +1

    Bro u hav 0 aura

  • @FitBenFix
    @FitBenFix 2 дні тому +3

    hell nah lil bro, stick to zero build

  • @aubrynobicop6924
    @aubrynobicop6924 2 дні тому

    This doesnt work. People are mich better at the game then they were the first time turbo build was nerfed and still that time people felt it and it felt bad if they removed it it would feel worse and most people would just play comp at that point since it has turbo build.

  • @boltdoesstuff
    @boltdoesstuff 2 дні тому +2

    Cry about it.

  • @main2up
    @main2up 2 дні тому

    NAH TO EVERYBODY HE IS COMPLETELY RIGHT

  • @OhXuul
    @OhXuul 2 дні тому

    coming from a guy that plays zero build LOL

  • @bamboix1st
    @bamboix1st 2 дні тому

    Why do i agree this much

  • @1Milkyy
    @1Milkyy 2 дні тому

    yeah i play zb how did you know ah video like i quit for 4 yrs and im now on par with unreal players not sayying im good but brother js comp

  • @acompletelynormalperson362
    @acompletelynormalperson362 2 дні тому

    Huge skill issue

  • @TheSPiRiLL
    @TheSPiRiLL 2 дні тому +1

    I just play 0build

  • @MTGCLIPZ
    @MTGCLIPZ 2 дні тому

    you just want to get rid of turbo building because your not good at building

    • @kjowl
      @kjowl  2 дні тому

      @@MTGCLIPZ I never said I didn’t want to get rid of it because I’m bad.

  • @jamieyes
    @jamieyes 2 дні тому

    I think youre just bad, if you dont think so 1v1, also people practice to get better just because you didnt dosnt mean you should be mad about it, so many people spent a very long time to learn how to build, i think its a great change, also people who are better at aiming are probably people who only practiced their aim, were some people put that practice into building to get better, building isnt only about being faster, thats what it is lower ranks. In higher ranks its about being smarter, sure being fast cant help but it isnt the only thing making people better

  • @DeveloperSavitar
    @DeveloperSavitar 4 дні тому

    I agree

  • @jamiekosch2562
    @jamiekosch2562 2 дні тому

    and thas y thers zero blid and tak zero blid macthsis cuz wen yoyr playing a zeron blid mact be it relod or a battle riloey or juts a norm zero blid ther are macthsis wer one can not blid at all and thos y its call zero blid macthsis you can stell hav in setings turbo blid on but wen ever you nether a zero blid mact you can not blid fort in fortnite and thos you usis your siroundings and wet wopensis you can fine that are around on had hav a nices day

  • @Grah-Chuy
    @Grah-Chuy 3 дні тому +2

    Bro no tf

  • @stringcheese135
    @stringcheese135 2 дні тому

    no

  • @Nexleqs
    @Nexleqs 2 дні тому

    skill issue

  • @epiccoolgmaer
    @epiccoolgmaer 2 дні тому

    You’re playing ZB so why are you talking about building your to trash to even play build mode Fortnite was built off building that’s the basis of the game

  • @J-ir4ge
    @J-ir4ge 4 дні тому

    Yeah. I am relatively good at gunfights but can't get a hang of building, so I agree with you.

  • @Ianloza-yg4vk
    @Ianloza-yg4vk 2 дні тому

    hell noo i see what your saying but just get better or play roblox

    • @kjowl
      @kjowl  2 дні тому

      @@Ianloza-yg4vk I get what you’re saying too, just why can’t Fortnite be for building forts instead of what it is now for atleast a limited time mode. I don’t think it should ever completely replace builds as they are now.

  • @vxnyt
    @vxnyt 2 дні тому

    not gonna lie this is a horrible take

  • @jamiekosch2562
    @jamiekosch2562 2 дні тому

    i my self over lookd cuz i did not think i was ther in the first placsis butt it was and thas the uotoepike up fo wopensis and items it to is a seting its ben in the game for qiet some to and it to can be trund on and off juts like turbo blid witch is aseting hav a nices day lik your won bum

  • @Businessmen-b5v
    @Businessmen-b5v 4 дні тому +2

    Bro no turbo building sucks most people will quit

    • @kjowl
      @kjowl  4 дні тому

      in casual, keep in comp.

    • @peta8649
      @peta8649 4 дні тому +2

      ​@@kjowlhe right broda ngl

    • @asbi2022
      @asbi2022 3 дні тому +3

      @@kjowl casuals love turbo build too like the game is 7 years old get good at some point i don't see why people that stayed and evolved should be penalized for people that are just bad also it's easy to cheat on no turbo build with auto clickers and macro's which will give a huge advantage for keyboard players, and no turbo is just shit and horrible turbo build was a qualaity of life changes and it won't bring people back to thegame like you dream of cuz even with no turbo build people who underdstand build edits and mechanics will still have the advantage on other people this whole discussion is just skill issue and lacks of understanding of the game

    • @Mr_GigglyFarts
      @Mr_GigglyFarts 2 дні тому +1

      @@asbi2022 you said it man! well done.

    • @jacksumis
      @jacksumis 2 дні тому

      @@asbi2022 turbo building just allows for people to build circles around people who can't keep up with it, so it just rewards players who spend more time on the game, which should not be the case for a casual game mode. Getting rid of it will cause more players to come back to the game because there will be a more even playing field between building and combat.

  • @J-ir4ge
    @J-ir4ge 4 дні тому +1

    keep it up