Notes : This is the last video I am trying to use an "international accent" to be understood easily by as many ears as possible in the world. I pretty much forgot how to really do it XD . Talking like my normal self helps me make videos faster, so ... I'll be normal sounding from now on XD . Enjoy the documentary though!
I literally have to nerf me down while interacting with the world around me XD . I'm aware that I am kinda scary and I am trying to act "sweeter" LOL XD
Good morning Pan. I am new to your channel, and watching this video really through me. I could not connect your accent with your tribe! Ha, laugh's on me. I'm glad I read your post about your "international ears". I highly value your skills and knowledge, thank you for sharing. By the way, I've recently started making arrows in a Comanche and Apache style. After watching your video today I am more confident to make a short bow. Thank you for your teaching!
i have a "friend" who constantly criticizes me for not doing a full draw and not having an anchor point, i tell her i'm practicing combat archery. she says i still need to slow down and aim better, but as Pan says, " even if you manage to hit your target with your rapid fire just once, its still a success, thats the point of it," Thank you Pans for this truly instructional video
It's funny how people are stuck on following what others teach. They follow gurus instead of actually experimenting and evolving these arts. I always say something more. "I am not the one who reads the books you follow, I am the one who WRITES the books you follow". She is stuck in what she follows, but you my friend, you are following YOU and you are evolving the art to fit you. Keep strong!
Combat is not the competitive competition, if someone let an Olympic pistol shooting champion and a special forces soldier in a narrow space with the pistol to shooting each other at the same time , who will survive?
@@allanquatermain777 agreed, i shoot two targets when rapid firing, 10 yd and 20 yd. that way i learn to get better acquisition and it makes it more realistic, no one will come at even spaces. they will be varied distances
I couldn't agree more! ;) . Also, if you have a real "purpose", THEN your instinct is awakened. In my case for example, because of the military service, I trained with the genuine belief that this archery can be used for combat. So my goal was realistic while training. That gave my instinct let's say enough "fuel".
I think that the tribes were often very different unless they overlapped in environment. While I agree with unification in modern times, to gain power, it shouldn't be done by ignoring history or the many complex cultures that existed. It was Berkeley and Hollywood that made it seem like all tribes were the same...and lumping different tribes in the same reservations. This was the major reason for the destruction of cultural identity. I did appreciate your video. Thanks for sharing your insights!
Hope you are doing well Pan! Your videos always pop up in my continued search for more knowledge on traditional native archery. I love how you show from a Navajo perspective.
greetings sir and greetings to all.a cup of tea and watching your video made my day.i learned alot.i just finished 3 comanche bows and needed some more explanation the best way to shoot them.thank you for sharing your research and🙂 knowledge.
Hehehe thank you Bro! You can find me on facebook if you haven't already. Type the same name as seen in the name of my channel (without Military Archery).
awesome shooting man keep practice. it is our belief that what was lost should be pass on and researched. for we never know what the future holds. and these are essential skills, and also fun
Hi pan. Nice explination and awesome bow. As for bows made from a branch or very skinny sapling. Its alot easier making a bow like this than to cut a huge tree down, split it, and work that into a bow. Most of my bows are made from small saplings or branches.
Hellooo! Thank you! Always glad to talk to people with the same interests. And these are VERY USEFUL interests right now. I am also using a special bamboo bundle-bow recipe. I have even made a complete crafting tutorial about it. There are so many approaches when it comes to a functioning bow.
I think the kinzhalnaya dagger draw is an effective way of shooting. I don't know if it was actually used by the Comanche but I've seen older paintings where it may have been used in extreme close range buffalo hunting. (dawing the arrow to the sternum and holding on to a horse with no stirrups...) Some of the archers on UA-cam hate that "corrupt draw" because it doesn't it doesn't anchor for aiming. They fail to recognize that it is a completely instinctive way of shooting and the Comanche lived their entire lives hunting. They used what they had to the best of their abilities. I also found this link to the Scythian draw and that may be the way the dagger draw was developed. I think it would be a great way to shoot with your weak hand if for some reason you can't use your strong hand to knock the arrow. Back in the day if they couldn't hunt they couldn't eat. Anyway, check this video out: ua-cam.com/video/yy1YbMJSNSc/v-deo.html
I can actually confirm your thoughts by a simple explanation. This type of draw is CLEARLY for horseback. As it helps the archer aim towards the back side. This handling realigns the "sights" perfectly with the target and gives more stability. So... what was the ONE thing that the Comanche used to move forward and progress? Yep... HORSES! Thinking that old warriors would use ONLY one style because "it's the Comanche style" is not realistic. Old warriors were practical and would use what helps them throw their arrow on to the target. So, the moment horses were introduced, these new styles of shooting were inevitable. This is probably what confused the consultants of the movie. My point would be that they used this style while depicting PRE-horses Comanches. Thus tossing out the MUCH more traditional, for the longest time, shooting style.
Thank you for this analysis my friend! I agree with you and as a traditional archer it bothered me a little- still a great movie and Amber Midthunder was awesome!
Thank you for your feedback my friend! Yes, the movie was fine indeed. It's not like the archery part was the main focus. Just a minor detail that can be easily missed for the plot's sake.
I love this video, from the welcoming Navajo, Spanish, and English intro to the rich knowledge you've passed down to anyone with the curiosity or the interest of learning
Nice bow and arrows. Great explanation . to be honest I think there were right handed archers and left handed archers. If you read about some of the attacks on wagon trains in the plains they'd circle around on the horses .another group would circle around the opposite way . this was to confuse the defenders. To ride clockwise and shoot you'd have to be left handed , counter clock wise right handed. Or be able to shoot left or right.
Yes. I agree. When making formations, tactical skills can be used. To synchronize with the others in an orderly fashion. So even if they weren't going to use any rapid shooting, they would still be able to use techniques from the right side. I'll keep experimenting to see what skills can be revived like this.
I wouldn't be surprised if these types of skills were not lost. Many planes tribes still have there secret war societies and bow hunting has been practiced on reservations since they were formed. Not only that, they have preserved the knowledge of horses and how they rode them back in the day. The other artistic crafts have been preserved.
I use a similar style of archery passed down in the family for rapid shots. Have always been told it’s for when an opponent is further than a spears length away to how far an axe or knife can be thrown. Only time for pulling all the way back is for longer distances and more powerful shots to pierce heavily armoured opponents or shields with techniques slightly differing depending on the draw weight of the bow. Might just be something similar to wives tales for it’s point of distance and application, thought it might be an interesting read. Please forgive my grammar.
Thank you! It is good for up to 80 yards. It can get better with lighter arrows. About penetration... hmmm it is up to the arrowhead and what type of target you are hitting. Maybe I can do some ballistic jell + covers (armor) tests in future videos.
Fantastic video. Loved the history and explanations. Beautiful music. Really cool technique. What is the poundage you use with a pinch draw? You have a new subscriber. 🙏🏼😎🏹
Well... to list a few special things about them : they don't have a V shaped nock on their back. It is completely flat. The fletching is a double helix, and the length can vary from arrow to arrow if you use this style of shooting. So that last part could be considered special. You already have a short draw so the length doesn't have to be fixed.
Thank you! Yep. I have an entire online shop coming up soon. But you could also look into my bamboo recipe. A crafting tutorial for complete beginners.
101st commenter and new subscriber here: Thanks for an outstanding and pragmatic vid! I've often thought that taking more than a day to make a bow would be expensive in a stone aged society.
With this style of shooting, yeah it can be. In fact, it makes it possible to have any length of arrows in the same batch. You can shoot inconsistent lengths with no issue.
Can you suggest where to buy the bow? And what is the suitable length of the arrow for thia bow, i thought it would be shorter than the common one (maybe 28 inch i guess)
Спасибо. Очень интересная техника! Я бы у вас поучился. Хочу задать вопрос- а на охоте, к примеру, без лошади, эффективность достигается быстротой стрельбы или точным выстрелом? И, в среднем, на какое расстояние надо приблизиться к зверю, к примеру, оленю? Какой силы используется лук для охоты?
Sorry for my reply in English :p . I separate hunting and war because for hunting you want to take down your target with one good shot. A 30 lbs bow CAN hunt if you use good arrow heads. Like a sharp broad head. If you hit the lungs, the animal is finished. But I would suggest a stronger bow for hunting. 50 lbs and higher. It has more certain results. The archery shown in my video works best for war. It can do more general damage as it creates wounded enemies. A wounded soldier brings havoc in the mentality of his fellow soldiers. Two more soldiers have to carry him off the battlefield, thus three people are taken out of the war with one softer shot. And it creates more prisoners for questioning. Such a bow has the same function as the 5.56 caliber firearms.
Yes, you can make it be even 60lbs if you carve a thicker piece of wood. Mine is 30lbs in this video. You can easily reach 40lbs with Jacaranda wood. Especially if you use epoxy and resin as varnish.
Oh wow, beautiful job making those bow and arrows, they look stunning. That's so funny though, just a few days ago I was wondering if you are gonna make a wooden bow like the one you've just made in this video and yea boom here we are.
Hehehe that's the good thing about me. You don't even need to comment any requests. You think them and like a good mentalist (I mean shaman) I deliver :p
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos hahaha yo no surprises there, all minds are connected aye straight up. Straight up though the technique you showed in this video was insane dude, im so keen on more videos of you legit just shooting with that technique, was diiissguussttinnggg. Awesome man.
Also what you were saying about purpose bro, how it can be used as fuel. The price of everything in my country (New Zealand) has gone up so much so we have to do our own hunting for meat, leather, tendons etc. The government is also doing really corrupt stuff as well, so me, my brother, and my friend are studying a lot of archery & have been working on our own bows so these sorts of videos are very valuable to us because it's gonna help us to provide for our family & defend ourselves. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, eternally grateful.
Lived around Hopi Zuni Dineh 1976-77. Northern AZ/NM. Now near Nez Perce.I still have my great grandfathers arrow wrench. When I was five or six, he showed me where to find suckers from damaged trees for arrows. Then he passed. I’ve knapped buckets of arrowheads. That obsidian is surprisingly sharp. Ever use cactus needle tips for lightweight bird arrows? Removable/replaceable tips? For hollow reed shafts? Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for your story! I would encourage you to make video documentations of your knowledge. It is information passed down from generation to generation. Yes, I have made arrows like that. I really like agave pricks. The leaf is also edible and has a bunch of EXTREMELY durable threads. I am working on a video showing how to use arrows with replaceable tips.
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos Thanks for the reply. First, I’d like to say thank you for your service and WELCOME HOME, SOLDIER. Now..His mother wasn’t on the census rolls because she was the child of a native and African slave so she was owned by the tribes at the time. Not a “member”.So I’m not a “real” Indian. She moved to Idaho when they brought the Nez Pierce back moved up. Also very European in appearance. But I know where brother salmon is. And where to dig camas. Which trees to pick pitch from. And why. Thanks!🙏🏼
@@TheCragg777 Thank you very much! Regardless, this knowledge chose you so you have earned your tribal place by right, despite what anyone might say. It is yours now. Not every nation sees it that way, but it is the Dine' way.
The bow design is interesting. Previous bows I've tried I'd be splitting a branch section of wood in half and then in another half to make a reasonable flatbow, but this idea seems like a quicker way to build a bow while using a smaller and easier to cut branch. Hopefully will try it out soon.
The Comanche used a short bow because they could fire the bow from different positions on horseback . A longer bow would not work. The Comanche nation was the most feared and most accomplished warriors of any nation.
This is similar to the Plains Cree who inhabit the Canadian Prairies. They are one of the largest tribes here, and the horse was very important to their culture like it was for The Comanche.
Hermoso video donde demuestras la originalidad de la arqueria Comanche, su utilidad práctica para el combate. Es un aporte histórico de mucha importancia. Felicidades y saludos desde San Francisco de Campeche,exico.
The American short bow is the AR15 of bows. Light, small arm, compact, high rate of fire. It's a brilliant design. You can find the short bow and rapid fire relationship exists in different continents.
Hey man..if l was making a movie. I'd be asking you to star in it... imagine half a dozen warriors coming through a camp shooting like you...but because they did it from early childhood..taught by seasoned warriors..and constantly competing with friends their level of skill would be almost unbelievable to us....
Thank you very much my friend! Actually... soon I'm gonna surprise you about such a movie . The first installment is almost finished hehehe. Indeed we can only imagine how good they must had been back then.
I'm pretty sure you've addressed these questions on one of your other videos, but: Average length of your arrows? Poundage on your branch bow? Length of bow? The only 2 things I can guess is brace height at 5 inches, and draw looks like 15-20 inches.
My friend everything in that movie was a bad peyote trip. The tomohak on a rope the fighting style the shooting style is a half a temp at the Saka sythian draw seen on ancient Greek pottery. This kind of draw was made popular from some Russian archerers about 11 years ago. Fast to knock but the arrow bounces around if you are in motion. Love your videos!
Thank you very much my friend! It's a pity they didn't do some research. Maybe the focus was to portray "a strong independent woman" instead of any history.
I'm making my first little Comanche inspired bow . You should have seen peoples faces when I said i was going to make a bow out of this old dried cracked broken tool handle. Shovel I think and Hickory I think. Why? it will be lot less heart breaking if it breaks while I'm learning than a quality seasoned Osage Orange stave, and i can get some practice chasing a ring while I'm hunting that Osage orange stave. Old shovel handle is taking shape now though I believe I'm going see some folks change their tune here shortly. I've been watching and getting inspired you foe a while now. I'm starting to pick up a little speed myself, under your tutelage. Saying thank you is an understatement and can never say enough.
I took my time being able to read my comments. Sorry about that 😅 . Enough time has passed so I am guessing you have finished your project. I am really curious to learn about your results. Did it work?
Comanche archery is the same fighting concept as the cowboy's fast draw which is to attack suddenly at close range at a very fast speed so that the enemy can't react. Comanche archery can carry out sneak attacks, assassinations, stealth operations and guerrilla operations against the enemy like Vietnamese guerrillas, ninjas and assassins. You can make the simplest, most practical and lethal bow at the lowest cost, kill an enemy soldier with a gun in his hand under certain environment, and then seize his gun
And what you say you "can" do, American insurgents will be doing in a few years when the present government tyranny by both parties becomes intolerable.
Ryddragyn answered nicely. Something I also do extra is that while releasing the arrow, I am pushing the bow forward and downward. This way the bow and hand is out of the way from the accelerating arrow.
Whenever you are firing an arrow do you pull back the string more or do you push the bow with your left hand more? I've been trying to speed shoot and I kind of do a little bit of both but I think I draw the string back more than I push the bow out
Question I've been practicing a similar style to yours but I was shown to pull the fletches through the bow hand grip if using broadheads is that something you practice in your style as well
If you notice my movement, I don't actually pass the arrowheads through my bow hand. I open slightly my four fingers and I keep holding the bow with my thumb and palm. So the arrows actually fall under the hand and I can pick them up. This way I can hold thin AND broad arrowheads in my hand. It helps if you hold the nock and pull it down to get unstuck from your loose fingers. Then I just play with gravity to maneuver it up and on the bow.
Thank you very much my friend! More and more, people are educating themselves and the demand for historical realism rises. I bet there will be a new movie standards revolution. Only those who do it right will become successful.
There are some old mexican codex where some aztec and tlaxcaltec archers are shown, and they shoot arrows from the left side of the bow, just as you mentioned.
It's very interesting to notice that Aztec codices barely depict any archery. The very few depictions seem to show what I am recreating. Obviously this style was widespread around the modern southern US and central America. But the Mexica empire had a certain structure that made archery pushed aside. The cotton armor made these warriors immune to enemy arrows. As a mockery, they preferred swordsmen moving in and capturing hostages. The more captives a warrior had, the higher would become his rank. Also, what arrow can beat the enormous Atlatl javelin? So in a historical sense, as scholars we are battling with lack of documented information. But still, these very few specs of info are able to confirm that this style is on the right track. It's probably the archery style preferred in older days, before the empire took place.
Is it possible to shoot this fast carrying the arrows tip down instead of tip down as you demonstrated? Let's say a person spends an equal amount of time practicing both techniques.
I am currently working on stocking my online shop before it is released to the public. An upcoming announcement will be made here. Also, I have an old tutorial about it but also I am about to make a new upgraded one.
@@coreyspencer6544 Panagiotis is . It means (All Holy) and derives from Panagia "her all holiness" (Holy Mary). Saltz is German for salt. It's an Austrian house. Kavalieratos is better written in it's original form Caballerato. Spanish for "horseman" or "knight" or "sir". So I am "holy white horseman". Yayy. (Note, Austria had conquered Mexico back in the day so Aztecs- Mexica found their way in Europe).
Notes : This is the last video I am trying to use an "international accent" to be understood easily by as many ears as possible in the world. I pretty much forgot how to really do it XD . Talking like my normal self helps me make videos faster, so ... I'll be normal sounding from now on XD . Enjoy the documentary though!
this man is an absolute unit, more scared off him then the bow
I literally have to nerf me down while interacting with the world around me XD . I'm aware that I am kinda scary and I am trying to act "sweeter" LOL XD
dude, that 00:09:00 is impressive af, that's grip strength to the max
No wonder I chose it as my favorite way of handling it :D
Literally changed my whole perspective on archery, thank you
Thank YOU! At your service 😃
this video fills me, thank you, that rifle is incredibly beautiful
Thank you! The rifle is handmade ;)
Remarkable speed and accuracy.
Thank you very much!
Good morning Pan. I am new to your channel, and watching this video really through me. I could not connect your accent with your tribe! Ha, laugh's on me. I'm glad I read your post about your "international ears". I highly value your skills and knowledge, thank you for sharing. By the way, I've recently started making arrows in a Comanche and Apache style. After watching your video today I am more confident to make a short bow. Thank you for your teaching!
Hello my friend! Thank you very much! Oh trust me... if you make or get such a bow... you are gonna have lots and lots of fun! ;)
i have a "friend" who constantly criticizes me for not doing a full draw and not having an anchor point, i tell her i'm practicing combat archery. she says i still need to slow down and aim better, but as Pan says, " even if you manage to hit your target with your rapid fire just once, its still a success, thats the point of it," Thank you Pans for this truly instructional video
It's funny how people are stuck on following what others teach. They follow gurus instead of actually experimenting and evolving these arts. I always say something more. "I am not the one who reads the books you follow, I am the one who WRITES the books you follow". She is stuck in what she follows, but you my friend, you are following YOU and you are evolving the art to fit you. Keep strong!
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos thank you, i will
You can tell your friend that if there is a real fight, the enemy will not stand still and let her take aim.
Combat is not the competitive competition, if someone let an Olympic pistol shooting champion and a special forces soldier in a narrow space with the pistol to shooting each other at the same time , who will survive?
@@allanquatermain777 agreed, i shoot two targets when rapid firing, 10 yd and 20 yd. that way i learn to get better acquisition and it makes it more realistic, no one will come at even spaces. they will be varied distances
That 3/4 draw technique is really fantastic. The key to instinctive archery is practice, practice, practice...
I couldn't agree more! ;) . Also, if you have a real "purpose", THEN your instinct is awakened. In my case for example, because of the military service, I trained with the genuine belief that this archery can be used for combat. So my goal was realistic while training. That gave my instinct let's say enough "fuel".
I think that the tribes were often very different unless they overlapped in environment. While I agree with unification in modern times, to gain power, it shouldn't be done by ignoring history or the many complex cultures that existed. It was Berkeley and Hollywood that made it seem like all tribes were the same...and lumping different tribes in the same reservations. This was the major reason for the destruction of cultural identity.
I did appreciate your video. Thanks for sharing your insights!
Thank you my friend for your comment!
Thanks for rekindling my faith in branch bows, and natural shooting. Peace bro.
You are welcome my friend! There is always something more to be had about these bows. hehehe.
Good shot Pan Brother on using dead wood, not living wood. You are spreading true accurate teaching to preserve Mother. It is waste' (good)
Hoka He
awesome video on the comanche archery
keep it up !
Always brother! Thank you!
thank you for your time and this video! awesome to learn and watch. Just started getting into archery. love it.
Best sport you could ever stumble upon hehehe. Have lots and lots of fun! And thank you my friend!
awesome work Brother many Thanks for sharing 😊.
Thank you very much! It's a pleasure.
Hello my friend how you keeping
Very good video
Great skills ..... and a flute player. 👌👍 Thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much!
Amazing skills and knowledge!
Thank you so much my dear Heidi!! ❤ ❤
You're the only one ive seen do the homework and appreciate our archery ways. Bravo sir! ✊🏾
Thank you very much for your kind words sir!
Hope you are doing well Pan! Your videos always pop up in my continued search for more knowledge on traditional native archery. I love how you show from a Navajo perspective.
Good to see you Brother! It's my tiny contribution in honor of one of the most ancient and richest nations :D
greetings sir and greetings to all.a cup of tea and watching your video made my day.i learned alot.i just finished 3 comanche bows and needed some more explanation the best way to shoot them.thank you for sharing your research and🙂 knowledge.
I deeply appreciate your comment my friend! Good to have you here and thank you!
Very impressing.
You've done a great job with this research on native American culture and the archery they used. You are an inspiration. Greetings from Norway.
Thank you very much my friend! Greetings!
Haven't even watched the video yet, but Pan gets a 👍🏼!
Hehehe thank you Bro! You can find me on facebook if you haven't already. Type the same name as seen in the name of my channel (without Military Archery).
"they use branches to preserve trees" I like it..
Thank you my friend! As things are progressing, maybe thinking this way is very relatable again. We have the knowledge and we will survive.
Incredible video, instant subscribtion!
Thank you very much! Welcome !
Yea! New video and new bow! Awesome!
Awesome!!! Great video. I'm going to try this style very soon... So fast!
Thank you Ronnie! Have fun!
awesome shooting man keep practice. it is our belief that what was lost should be pass on and researched. for we never know what the future holds. and these are essential skills, and also fun
Thank you very much! True words.
Hi pan. Nice explination and awesome bow. As for bows made from a branch or very skinny sapling. Its alot easier making a bow like this than to cut a huge tree down, split it, and work that into a bow. Most of my bows are made from small saplings or branches.
Hellooo! Thank you! Always glad to talk to people with the same interests. And these are VERY USEFUL interests right now. I am also using a special bamboo bundle-bow recipe. I have even made a complete crafting tutorial about it. There are so many approaches when it comes to a functioning bow.
@PanSaltzCaballeratos yes I've seen your videos using those bundle bows. They are great bows. In a survival situation it's a quick bow to make.
Amazing
Thank you!
I watched the movie on Hulu and it's a good movie. I'd recommend it
Great video, and tons of information in it. Thank you so much.
Thank you Bro!
I think the kinzhalnaya dagger draw is an effective way of shooting. I don't know if it was actually used by the Comanche but I've seen older paintings where it may have been used in extreme close range buffalo hunting. (dawing the arrow to the sternum and holding on to a horse with no stirrups...) Some of the archers on UA-cam hate that "corrupt draw" because it doesn't it doesn't anchor for aiming. They fail to recognize that it is a completely instinctive way of shooting and the Comanche lived their entire lives hunting. They used what they had to the best of their abilities. I also found this link to the Scythian draw and that may be the way the dagger draw was developed. I think it would be a great way to shoot with your weak hand if for some reason you can't use your strong hand to knock the arrow. Back in the day if they couldn't hunt they couldn't eat. Anyway, check this video out: ua-cam.com/video/yy1YbMJSNSc/v-deo.html
I can actually confirm your thoughts by a simple explanation. This type of draw is CLEARLY for horseback. As it helps the archer aim towards the back side. This handling realigns the "sights" perfectly with the target and gives more stability. So... what was the ONE thing that the Comanche used to move forward and progress? Yep... HORSES! Thinking that old warriors would use ONLY one style because "it's the Comanche style" is not realistic. Old warriors were practical and would use what helps them throw their arrow on to the target. So, the moment horses were introduced, these new styles of shooting were inevitable. This is probably what confused the consultants of the movie. My point would be that they used this style while depicting PRE-horses Comanches. Thus tossing out the MUCH more traditional, for the longest time, shooting style.
Thank you for this analysis my friend! I agree with you and as a traditional archer it bothered me a little- still a great movie and Amber Midthunder was awesome!
Thank you for your feedback my friend! Yes, the movie was fine indeed. It's not like the archery part was the main focus. Just a minor detail that can be easily missed for the plot's sake.
Awesome video! Damn fine shooting Pan!!! Thanks for posting.
Thank you very much my friend!
I love your videos always full of knowledge. Thanks for sharing 🙏🏹😊
You were correct! Thank you for recommending this fantastic content.
Miguel! Thank you so much for your comment!! You are an awesome archer. I watch everything you make!
AWESOME! Thank you!
I love this video, from the welcoming Navajo, Spanish, and English intro to the rich knowledge you've passed down to anyone with the curiosity or the interest of learning
Thank you very much my friend!
Excellent video mate. Hoka Hey it is the day after Custers death and u bring us a good video 📹
Hehehe exactly! He won't be missed. Hoka Hey! Thank you!
Nice bow and arrows. Great explanation . to be honest I think there were right handed archers and left handed archers. If you read about some of the attacks on wagon trains in the plains they'd circle around on the horses .another group would circle around the opposite way . this was to confuse the defenders. To ride clockwise and shoot you'd have to be left handed , counter clock wise right handed. Or be able to shoot left or right.
Yes. I agree. When making formations, tactical skills can be used. To synchronize with the others in an orderly fashion. So even if they weren't going to use any rapid shooting, they would still be able to use techniques from the right side. I'll keep experimenting to see what skills can be revived like this.
Insane amount of content. I really appreciate, thx
Thank you very much!!
I wouldn't be surprised if these types of skills were not lost. Many planes tribes still have there secret war societies and bow hunting has been practiced on reservations since they were formed. Not only that, they have preserved the knowledge of horses and how they rode them back in the day. The other artistic crafts have been preserved.
You are correct ;) . Many are training in a military fashion too but shhhh :p "you didn't hear that from me :p "|
This was pure excellence! Thank you.
Thank you very much!
Good job brother!!
Thank you very much Brother!
I use a similar style of archery passed down in the family for rapid shots. Have always been told it’s for when an opponent is further than a spears length away to how far an axe or knife can be thrown. Only time for pulling all the way back is for longer distances and more powerful shots to pierce heavily armoured opponents or shields with techniques slightly differing depending on the draw weight of the bow.
Might just be something similar to wives tales for it’s point of distance and application, thought it might be an interesting read.
Please forgive my grammar.
You fully understand how this technique works :D . Glad to have you here my friend!
Thank you. I enjoy Comanche archery videos more than you can realize, so this feels awesome to learn .
Thank you my friend! Then I'll make sure that more of this will keep coming 😄
i like the simplicity of this style. what can you do when wood is scarce. what is the effective range and penetration?
Thank you! It is good for up to 80 yards. It can get better with lighter arrows. About penetration... hmmm it is up to the arrowhead and what type of target you are hitting. Maybe I can do some ballistic jell + covers (armor) tests in future videos.
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos please do some tests!
Love the short bow you made. Good shooting too !!
Thank you! :D
Thank you for your perspective, very well done
Thank you very much!
Fantastic video. Loved the history and explanations. Beautiful music. Really cool technique. What is the poundage you use with a pinch draw? You have a new subscriber. 🙏🏼😎🏹
Welcome my friend and thank you! At full draw this bow can reach up to 35lbs.
@PanSaltzCablleratos Are there anything special about the arrows? are they shorter length than average?
Well... to list a few special things about them : they don't have a V shaped nock on their back. It is completely flat. The fletching is a double helix, and the length can vary from arrow to arrow if you use this style of shooting. So that last part could be considered special. You already have a short draw so the length doesn't have to be fixed.
Yes sir that's fast enough to keep you running 😂
Quality video! Definitely earned a new subscriber!
Thank you so much my friend!!
Синяя изолента - канон!
Tape is a tool from heaven hahaha. The blue one was wool .
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos Blu tape it's a mem in my country
Great video, do you make and sell these bows??
Thank you! Yep. I have an entire online shop coming up soon. But you could also look into my bamboo recipe. A crafting tutorial for complete beginners.
A good video, Pan. A good point about using what you can rather than an entire tree. My other name is Kiowa Lee.
I'm glad to have you here my friend and thank you!
101st commenter and new subscriber here: Thanks for an outstanding and pragmatic vid! I've often thought that taking more than a day to make a bow would be expensive in a stone aged society.
Thank you my friend! I understand very well your point. You understand deeply the essence of a realistic survival skill.
How long is the arrow? It must be shorter than the common arrows right (shorter than 30 inch perhaps)?
With this style of shooting, yeah it can be. In fact, it makes it possible to have any length of arrows in the same batch. You can shoot inconsistent lengths with no issue.
Can you suggest where to buy the bow? And what is the suitable length of the arrow for thia bow, i thought it would be shorter than the common one (maybe 28 inch i guess)
I have some crafting tutorials uploaded for both bows and arrows. But also, I am working on making an online shop. But it is taking some time.
great video!
Thank you very much Pister Mresident!
what great skill and speed, really inspired by this!
Thank you so much my friend!
Muito bom..
Obrigado!
Hello ! How long is your bow? and how many pounds of horsepower? Thank you
30lbs light short bow. Enough to do what is needed :D
Спасибо. Очень интересная техника! Я бы у вас поучился. Хочу задать вопрос- а на охоте, к примеру, без лошади, эффективность достигается быстротой стрельбы или точным выстрелом? И, в среднем, на какое расстояние надо приблизиться к зверю, к примеру, оленю? Какой силы используется лук для охоты?
Sorry for my reply in English :p . I separate hunting and war because for hunting you want to take down your target with one good shot. A 30 lbs bow CAN hunt if you use good arrow heads. Like a sharp broad head. If you hit the lungs, the animal is finished. But I would suggest a stronger bow for hunting. 50 lbs and higher. It has more certain results. The archery shown in my video works best for war. It can do more general damage as it creates wounded enemies. A wounded soldier brings havoc in the mentality of his fellow soldiers. Two more soldiers have to carry him off the battlefield, thus three people are taken out of the war with one softer shot. And it creates more prisoners for questioning. Such a bow has the same function as the 5.56 caliber firearms.
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos спасибо за ответ, почти все понял.
Great job.
Thank you sir!
Just wanna know, how much the draw weight of the bow? Is it possible to make it 40lb? (my preferred draw weight btw)
Yes, you can make it be even 60lbs if you carve a thicker piece of wood. Mine is 30lbs in this video. You can easily reach 40lbs with Jacaranda wood. Especially if you use epoxy and resin as varnish.
@@PanSaltzCaballeratosi wish i know how to make one. Here in my place some of the bowyer use rattan wood to make bow. Guess i have to try t out
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Oh wow, beautiful job making those bow and arrows, they look stunning. That's so funny though, just a few days ago I was wondering if you are gonna make a wooden bow like the one you've just made in this video and yea boom here we are.
Hehehe that's the good thing about me. You don't even need to comment any requests. You think them and like a good mentalist (I mean shaman) I deliver :p
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos hahaha yo no surprises there, all minds are connected aye straight up. Straight up though the technique you showed in this video was insane dude, im so keen on more videos of you legit just shooting with that technique, was diiissguussttinnggg. Awesome man.
Also what you were saying about purpose bro, how it can be used as fuel. The price of everything in my country (New Zealand) has gone up so much so we have to do our own hunting for meat, leather, tendons etc. The government is also doing really corrupt stuff as well, so me, my brother, and my friend are studying a lot of archery & have been working on our own bows so these sorts of videos are very valuable to us because it's gonna help us to provide for our family & defend ourselves. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, eternally grateful.
Lived around Hopi Zuni Dineh 1976-77. Northern AZ/NM. Now near Nez Perce.I still have my great grandfathers arrow wrench. When I was five or six, he showed me where to find suckers from damaged trees for arrows. Then he passed. I’ve knapped buckets of arrowheads. That obsidian is surprisingly sharp. Ever use cactus needle tips for lightweight bird arrows? Removable/replaceable tips? For hollow reed shafts? Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for your story! I would encourage you to make video documentations of your knowledge. It is information passed down from generation to generation. Yes, I have made arrows like that. I really like agave pricks. The leaf is also edible and has a bunch of EXTREMELY durable threads. I am working on a video showing how to use arrows with replaceable tips.
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos Thanks for the reply. First, I’d like to say thank you for your service and WELCOME HOME, SOLDIER.
Now..His mother wasn’t on the census rolls because she was the child of a native and African slave so she was owned by the tribes at the time. Not a “member”.So I’m not a “real” Indian. She moved to Idaho when they brought the Nez Pierce back moved up. Also very European in appearance. But I know where brother salmon is. And where to dig camas. Which trees to pick pitch from. And why. Thanks!🙏🏼
@@TheCragg777 Thank you very much! Regardless, this knowledge chose you so you have earned your tribal place by right, despite what anyone might say. It is yours now. Not every nation sees it that way, but it is the Dine' way.
The bow design is interesting. Previous bows I've tried I'd be splitting a branch section of wood in half and then in another half to make a reasonable flatbow, but this idea seems like a quicker way to build a bow while using a smaller and easier to cut branch. Hopefully will try it out soon.
Good luck! You won't be disappointed.
The Comanche used a short bow because they could fire the bow from different positions on horseback . A longer bow would not work. The Comanche nation was the most feared and most accomplished warriors of any nation.
This is similar to the Plains Cree who inhabit the Canadian Prairies. They are one of the largest tribes here, and the horse was very important to their culture like it was for The Comanche.
Very cool, very inspirational. I would like to combine your technique with eastern horse archery techniques.
Thank you very much my friend! I am curious to see the results! 😄
Nice video, but in the movie Prey it seems they draw differently. The drawing hand is “up side down”? (in the movie)
Where did you find the wood ?
I like it .
Thank you very much :)
Hermoso video donde demuestras la originalidad de la arqueria Comanche, su utilidad práctica para el combate. Es un aporte histórico de mucha importancia. Felicidades y saludos desde San Francisco de Campeche,exico.
Saludos Hermano! Siento el retraso en la respuesta. ¡Muchas gracias!
The American short bow is the AR15 of bows. Light, small arm, compact, high rate of fire. It's a brilliant design. You can find the short bow and rapid fire relationship exists in different continents.
I always made the same comparison in my mind. I fully approve 😅
And hated by the federal government
Hey man..if l was making a movie. I'd be asking you to star in it... imagine half a dozen warriors coming through a camp shooting like you...but because they did it from early childhood..taught by seasoned warriors..and constantly competing with friends their level of skill would be almost unbelievable to us....
Thank you very much my friend! Actually... soon I'm gonna surprise you about such a movie . The first installment is almost finished hehehe. Indeed we can only imagine how good they must had been back then.
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos looking forward to seeing the movie.. regards Amigo
I'm pretty sure you've addressed these questions on one of your other videos, but:
Average length of your arrows? Poundage on your branch bow?
Length of bow?
The only 2 things I can guess is brace height at 5 inches, and draw looks like 15-20 inches.
Arrows length : 61cm / 24 inches. Length of bow : (average) 120cm / 47 inches. Draw length : ...yes you got that right 😄 . Draw weight : 30lbs
Thanks
Isso é magnífico...
Muito obrigado!
How many pound was this bow?
30 lbs
Bro finally!!!! Thank you for pointing that out
Thank you very much my friend!
My friend everything in that movie was a bad peyote trip. The tomohak on a rope the fighting style the shooting style is a half a temp at the Saka sythian draw seen on ancient Greek pottery. This kind of draw was made popular from some Russian archerers about 11 years ago. Fast to knock but the arrow bounces around if you are in motion. Love your videos!
Thank you very much my friend! It's a pity they didn't do some research. Maybe the focus was to portray "a strong independent woman" instead of any history.
I'm making my first little Comanche inspired bow . You should have seen peoples faces when I said i was going to make a bow out of this old dried cracked broken tool handle. Shovel I think and Hickory I think. Why? it will be lot less heart breaking if it breaks while I'm learning than a quality seasoned Osage Orange stave, and i can get some practice chasing a ring while I'm hunting that Osage orange stave. Old shovel handle is taking shape now though I believe I'm going see some folks change their tune here shortly. I've been watching and getting inspired you foe a while now. I'm starting to pick up a little speed myself, under your tutelage. Saying thank you is an understatement and can never say enough.
I took my time being able to read my comments. Sorry about that 😅 . Enough time has passed so I am guessing you have finished your project. I am really curious to learn about your results. Did it work?
What an adventure!
Friend, how are you? Greetings from Colombia, friend, good bow, what wood is the bow made of? I really liked the bow.
Saludos hermano! Thank you! It's Jacaranda wood.
Comanche archery is the same fighting concept as the cowboy's fast draw which is to attack suddenly at close range at a very fast speed so that the enemy can't react.
Comanche archery can carry out sneak attacks, assassinations, stealth operations and guerrilla operations against the enemy like Vietnamese guerrillas, ninjas and assassins.
You can make the simplest, most practical and lethal bow at the lowest cost, kill an enemy soldier with a gun in his hand under certain environment, and then seize his gun
Hello my warrior Brother! It is exactly as you described it!
And what you say you "can" do, American insurgents will be doing in a few years when the present government tyranny by both parties becomes intolerable.
Does this style have enough power to bring down large game? sorry i dont know much about archery im new.
How do you protect your bow hand from being cut by the shooting arrow ?
By setting the nock point correctly. Or at least by holding the arrow in the correct spot on the string.
Ryddragyn answered nicely. Something I also do extra is that while releasing the arrow, I am pushing the bow forward and downward. This way the bow and hand is out of the way from the accelerating arrow.
Whenever you are firing an arrow do you pull back the string more or do you push the bow with your left hand more?
I've been trying to speed shoot and I kind of do a little bit of both but I think I draw the string back more than I push the bow out
For me it's a 35% pushing the bow forward and 65% pulling the string back.
Question I've been practicing a similar style to yours but I was shown to pull the fletches through the bow hand grip if using broadheads is that something you practice in your style as well
If you notice my movement, I don't actually pass the arrowheads through my bow hand. I open slightly my four fingers and I keep holding the bow with my thumb and palm. So the arrows actually fall under the hand and I can pick them up. This way I can hold thin AND broad arrowheads in my hand. It helps if you hold the nock and pull it down to get unstuck from your loose fingers. Then I just play with gravity to maneuver it up and on the bow.
Well done my friend. Good reasoning as well...I truly enjoyed the video. Movies are, for the huge part, a BIG lie...
Thank you very much my friend! More and more, people are educating themselves and the demand for historical realism rises. I bet there will be a new movie standards revolution. Only those who do it right will become successful.
There are some old mexican codex where some aztec and tlaxcaltec archers are shown, and they shoot arrows from the left side of the bow, just as you mentioned.
It's very interesting to notice that Aztec codices barely depict any archery. The very few depictions seem to show what I am recreating. Obviously this style was widespread around the modern southern US and central America. But the Mexica empire had a certain structure that made archery pushed aside. The cotton armor made these warriors immune to enemy arrows. As a mockery, they preferred swordsmen moving in and capturing hostages. The more captives a warrior had, the higher would become his rank. Also, what arrow can beat the enormous Atlatl javelin? So in a historical sense, as scholars we are battling with lack of documented information. But still, these very few specs of info are able to confirm that this style is on the right track. It's probably the archery style preferred in older days, before the empire took place.
this is better then history channel i was very interested once i saw the movie
Best comment here. Thank you very much for your kind words my friend!
Man your good.
Thank you!
Is it possible to shoot this fast carrying the arrows tip down instead of tip down as you demonstrated? Let's say a person spends an equal amount of time practicing both techniques.
Yes and doing so would make you faster. In fact, I prefer holding the arrowheads downward. You can see this in almost all my other videos.
Hey said hello my name is .......and it amazing ............I am Navajo myself
Philimayeye thank you in Lakota, I’m gonna try practicing to honour my ancestors
Your comment means a whole lot to me. Thank you very much my friend!
Φιλαρακι είμαι πολύ περήφανος για σένα..έχεις δικαιωθεί μετά από πολλά χρόνια !!!
Σ'ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ Τάσο!! Όλα τα καλά τώρα έρχονται!
Πολυ ωραιο βιντεο!!❤
Σ'ευχαριστώ πολύ!
How would one be made and or bought?
I am currently working on stocking my online shop before it is released to the public. An upcoming announcement will be made here. Also, I have an old tutorial about it but also I am about to make a new upgraded one.
I love watching your videos and learning more about the history and what not how long have you been using native american archery??
Thank you very much! Since childhood.
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos that awesome man where you from if you don't mind me asking
@@coreyspencer6544 Mestizo (mixed) Greek and from Phoenix Arizona.
@@PanSaltzCaballeratos is that Greek and right on
@@coreyspencer6544 Panagiotis is . It means (All Holy) and derives from Panagia "her all holiness" (Holy Mary). Saltz is German for salt. It's an Austrian house. Kavalieratos is better written in it's original form Caballerato. Spanish for "horseman" or "knight" or "sir". So I am "holy white horseman". Yayy. (Note, Austria had conquered Mexico back in the day so Aztecs- Mexica found their way in Europe).