I here a lot of people asking about bug netting, this looks like a cool weather hammock. I have not seen too many bugs in the weather I would use this in
It's good to have hammocks with integrated insulation in the marketplace, but the temperature rating (30 deg. f) seems like an anomaly. The hammock is net-less, so it is not ideal for 3-season use, but the insulation is inadequate for most Winter conditions. If the temperature rating was 10-15 deg. f it would make a lot more sense. That said, three inches of good quality down loft should normally provide protection in temperatures below 30f, so I am curious about user feedback in this regard. I hope that this hammock is successful, but I await a more Winterised version.
this would certainly be worth the cost if the insulation were rated for below freezing....somewhere between 10-15. and if it were a bit wider and zipped rather than snapped. i suppose snaps allow for better ventilation, which would reduce condensation, but if it were a bit wider, it would allow more room for a diagonal lay
I wondered why this wasn’t done sooner. 30°F is about as low as I would go and even in the summers here in the Adirondacks I’ve used a 30° quilt and not been too warm underneath.
@@backpackerdetailman Sheltowee and Bonefire both came about in spring of 2014, but that's about where the similarities stop... Bonefire pioneered the directional UQ (thereby saving a ton of weight/bulk) while Sheltowee remains unique with their adjustable UQ layer; that's a patented feature that should ease the worry of being stuck with a bottom quilt that's too warm.
Nice idea and semi good price if you think that it costs $237 for a premium 30F rated UQ from hammock gear. Making the hammock $112. Could be cheaper but I get profit margins. This is very similair to a warbonnet wookie UQ only it is permanently attached to the hammock. Personally I like a bit of versatility with my hammocks. Being able to change the temp rating any time I want is necessity with this hammock you'd have to layer or force yourself to only camp from 30-60F.
Some people get more than one piece of gear ;) I have a couple of friends who will only go hiking between September and March. If they step out of the house and find a single mosquito they don't want to go. Our prime trips are late December.
Looks like it knocks out the asymmetrical lay though? This isn’t a new idea and seems to be better done elsewhere. That being said.. I havent tried one. I’ll be interested to see reviews on this.
Does it have synthetic or down insulation? Is the bottom water proof or at least weather-proof? That's always been a concern of mine about down under quilts. I don't know how many times the bottom of my hammock has gotten wet due to rain splashing up on it when the wind is blowing. I wonder if a down under quilt would get wet and be rendered useless in that situation.
The insulation if this hammock is Down, not synthetic. It would be very difficult to completely wet-out a modern day down quilt, thanks largely to the weather resistance (tightly woven, calendared fabric, with DWR coating) built-into the now ubiquitous lightweight, down proof 'shell' fabrics.
I use a cover that goes under my underquilt and connects to the suspension. Also adds a little extra insulating factor. This keeps the bottom of my underquilt dry if it's a concern, though under my tarp I haven't had any problems with that.
I here a lot of people asking about bug netting, this looks like a cool weather hammock. I have not seen too many bugs in the weather I would use this in
looks very comfy
Any chance we’ll see integrated insulation like this with a chameleon in the future?
It's good to have hammocks with integrated insulation in the marketplace, but the temperature rating (30 deg. f) seems like an anomaly. The hammock is net-less, so it is not ideal for 3-season use, but the insulation is inadequate for most Winter conditions. If the temperature rating was 10-15 deg. f it would make a lot more sense.
That said, three inches of good quality down loft should normally provide protection in temperatures below 30f, so I am curious about user feedback in this regard.
I hope that this hammock is successful, but I await a more Winterised version.
The Whisper Hammock from Bonefire Gear www.bonefiregear.com/ is insulated and includes a zippered bugnet.
Check out arbora hammocks, they have different temperature ratings and integrated bugnets.
Looks like the Sheltowee Hammock idea.
Key difference with Sheltowee Hammocks is the ability to adjust (vent) the UQ on them😏
this would certainly be worth the cost if the insulation were rated for below freezing....somewhere between 10-15. and if it were a bit wider and zipped rather than snapped. i suppose snaps allow for better ventilation, which would reduce condensation, but if it were a bit wider, it would allow more room for a diagonal lay
I wish it had a zip out or sewn in bugnet.
I wondered why this wasn’t done sooner. 30°F is about as low as I would go and even in the summers here in the Adirondacks I’ve used a 30° quilt and not been too warm underneath.
It was done about 3 years ago by Bonefire Gear who originally brought this idea to market. Sheltowee Hammocks developed a very similar idea.
@@backpackerdetailman Sheltowee and Bonefire both came about in spring of 2014, but that's about where the similarities stop... Bonefire pioneered the directional UQ (thereby saving a ton of weight/bulk) while Sheltowee remains unique with their adjustable UQ layer; that's a patented feature that should ease the worry of being stuck with a bottom quilt that's too warm.
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Nice idea and semi good price if you think that it costs $237 for a premium 30F rated UQ from hammock gear. Making the hammock $112. Could be cheaper but I get profit margins. This is very similair to a warbonnet wookie UQ only it is permanently attached to the hammock. Personally I like a bit of versatility with my hammocks. Being able to change the temp rating any time I want is necessity with this hammock you'd have to layer or force yourself to only camp from 30-60F.
spot on hehe. it would only make sense if the hammock part of it was real cheap (say 30usd extra)
Some people get more than one piece of gear ;)
I have a couple of friends who will only go hiking between September and March. If they step out of the house and find a single mosquito they don't want to go. Our prime trips are late December.
How tall are u ?
Slick idea!
Looks like it knocks out the asymmetrical lay though? This isn’t a new idea and seems to be better done elsewhere. That being said.. I havent tried one. I’ll be interested to see reviews on this.
Does it have synthetic or down insulation? Is the bottom water proof or at least weather-proof? That's always been a concern of mine about down under quilts. I don't know how many times the bottom of my hammock has gotten wet due to rain splashing up on it when the wind is blowing. I wonder if a down under quilt would get wet and be rendered useless in that situation.
The insulation if this hammock is Down, not synthetic. It would be very difficult to completely wet-out a modern day down quilt, thanks largely to the weather resistance (tightly woven, calendared fabric, with DWR coating) built-into the now ubiquitous lightweight, down proof 'shell' fabrics.
I use a cover that goes under my underquilt and connects to the suspension. Also adds a little extra insulating factor. This keeps the bottom of my underquilt dry if it's a concern, though under my tarp I haven't had any problems with that.
Very nice thank you
I’m not clear if this only consists of under quilt or if there is a top quilt as well.
The hammock has an attached underquilt, It does not come with a top quilt.