Epic is doing a great job the community isnt bad too apex cod players hate on the game for having toxic players but apex and cod has way more toxic its just that they should make it ping based instead of wins
@@danzannyambaatar3662 idk. Just Like tim said, I think current fortnite sucks, epic is spending more time making updates for rocket league than fortnite. The fortnite I loved is gone
@@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778 tbh i dont play it anymore cuz of work but i keep up with news incase something crazy happens tim once tweeted that he wants to make fortnite a platform its way to comp but if i grind creative for one week its pretty easy to get better
@@danzannyambaatar3662 they've removed a ton of the fun items because of pros and sweats. The community is kinda shit and u either steamroll everyone or get destroyed. They also have sold out for all the crossover stuff, and let it completely change the game. It also feels like they kinda abandoned it because of super infrequent updates, and I would be fine with them reusing old game modes, but they just kinda let it be dry
Respect for the stance on Warzone, I love the game as well, and there’s so much potential, yet so much holding it back. Peak Fortnite before all the memes was near unbeatable in its hype. I despise the game now tho lol
I still play Fortnite but your right it's not as enjoyable. I don't mind SBMM, but Fortnites SBMM is the worst developed SBMM out there. You will get players 10x better than you and have no chance at all.
I sure don’t hackers literally know more about the game than the developers themselves to the point hackers if they really wanted to could easily take full position not their game respawn is one joke of a developer group
Yeah, it's dumb because Tim hasn't played it in 6 seasons, and he said he doesn't like high ttk and armor swaps. So basically he doesn't like apex because it's harder to play and he is ass
@@ajcooper1093 true, he likes using broken guns and sucks when everyone has the same guns where attachments all do the same thing and everyone is forced to use the same attachments
@@ajcooper1093 I genuinely despise warzone in part for its extreme lack of mechanical skill, but on the other end, Apex (which imo is the best) is super demanding. Tim isnt an amazing mechanical player, but I think just boiling down his problem with apex to him just being ass isnt entirely fair to tim. I dont disagree with your point, I just think it's a little reductionist.
@@jettsamuelson9669 the sweats could easily not be a problem by adding a gulag mechanic so that the casuals could atleast have a chance to be engaged in matches regardless of lossing or not
Fortnite was everything man, I have an emotional attachment to what the game used to be. So many amazing memories. They completely changed the gaming industry. People forget how AMAZING it was when crossplay came about, all of the insane collabs and live events, the creative mode with creator codes. Most of these games on this list wouldn't exist if not for Fortnite. I'm really upset with where the game has gone, they used to have the most solid community in the gaming landscape because Epic listened to everything we said and suggested, they do what they want now. While the game isn't what it was, it still has incredible building mechanics that are in a league of their own and separate it from every other Battle Royale out there. Peak Fortnite is one of the greatest games of all time and we won't see and feel something like it for very very long time.
I miss all the funny things u could do with people like dancing all game and building giant buildings but now u go in there and some kid cranks 8 90s and obliterates u bc they trying to get recognition
Are you INSANE? Literally chapter 1 consisted of players screeching at Epic every single updated for changes they made and how they ignored players. Like this isn't even a question of opinion you are objectively wrong here.
TTK in Apex creates more skilled, entertaining and intense fights in the game where its not just you see somebody and kill them right away. Also shield swaps really does help with resolving 3rd parties, making it a good thing and not a bad thing.
@@playboicartiuwu It was a complete disaster to be honest. You could be dropped way to easily ruining the fast paced action that makes it so awesome in the first place.
Apex is s+ because of the movement, gun play. But just like tim said if warzone had a anti cheat (and to be honest a casual mode and then a rank mode) it would be s+
@@jack_kerins Yes, which most average or below players don’t normally do which makes them lose most fights to players that do in fights, which makes it a skill gap.
@@imluccky27 idk I dont consider that a skill gap imo it’s something players have to train hours to improve and get better constantly raising the bar, armour swapping takes at most 1 minute of reconsideration and the then the “gap” is instantly crossed with little to no hard work
@@jack_kerins look bro if youve ever play apex at a higher level than diamond then you will know that a armour swap can be outgunned by good movment and if you wanna shut that shit down completely emp with crypto
Peak pubg, damn. That game was amazing, I loved watching shroud play the game. Weapons were what they should be, difficult to control, you take damage you had to heal manually, no special weapons or classes, you had to look for you own grips and compensators andif you died well you were dead, no gulag, no buy backs, you either had it or you didn’t have it.
@@lucky2593 bro ur wrong and how og are you? Cuz if your like season 4 then ok I get it but if you played in season 1-3 and you don’t rank that A+ you are just wrong
I started in season 1 and the whole reason I loved it is the building aspect, I actually think it's in better shape now than in the last year. I'm happy they brought back bouncers and Shockwaves cuz now I can do fun shit
@@lucky2593 I'm also an og. Played since season 2. This was the first shooter I had ever been madly addicted to. Only game that rivaled it for me in terms of entertainment was league of legends in its prime.
More like: unless you hit a speeding bullet with a full mag, you are barely denting purple and gold armor, for them to slap a Kramer shot and you die. That's how RNG and people with no skill claim that getting shot first is less skill than being able to counter.
@@MrSpronkets Kraber is a care package exclusive weapon (only endgame)with very high drop and very low RPM, but yeh sure your gonna get killed if the other player is better and your movement is shit. Sounds like someone styled on you
@@bbmintah8509 we aint talking about recoil here, u have to control that in apex too, I am pretty sure someone like tim never tried to control flatline with no attacments but a 2x-4x
Apex easily has the best movement, gunplay is incredible. im sorry you cant wait more then half a second to kill someone. also it has RANKED. but ite cuh
@@luke2687 or (bare with me now) I don't enjoy the br. And skill should have nothing to do with liking a game or not. Thats such a dumb mindset Oh YoU don't Like ThE GaMe becAuSe yOur bad. Shut up
@@trossity9930 exactly I've always said this. You can be the best player in the world on warzone and still get clipped by an average player. The guns don't have any recoil imo. But in apex you have to have real skill to kill the cracked players in your lobbies. Try killing a couch spamming wraith. It's so annoying
Apex takes dedication. Warzone you can drop with the broken gun for that week and be insane. But try that in apex and you will get dropped faster than you jumping from the drop ship.
@@aydin2340 I don't play warzone anymore, and I'm kinda glad because from what I heard/seen the br is dogshit now. Apex was the only game that kept me playing since day one
@@petrherrmann2693 Warzone was ok before CW was implemented. Apex is consistent and refreshing to play bc just like Titanfa 2, u don't get the same kind of fights
@@petrherrmann2693 well the meta has been balanced lately as you can use more than one single gun now that you’d like. Up until they released that damn LMG
Apex is definitely S tier due to the fact that it’s a basic BR. (RNG instead of using the same broken loadouts like everyone else) better movement, unique character abilities, Ranked, TTK was perfect, & actually requires skill. blackout A tier: due to the fact that it had a better map. The locations were all unique like asylum, lighthouse, firing range, etc. no broken loadouts/META weapons like warzone. Only thing that warzone has done better than blackout is having a Gulag, & buy backs
I’m with you, apex feels more refined as a battle Royale where call of duty makes more sense to me outside of warzone. TTK should be on the higher side in a battle royale always. I will say that with all the positives apex brings it’s still kinda disappointing. There are only a couple legends that are really fun to play and get picked by good players. Octane, bloodhound, wraith over and over again. So it’s similar to broken load outs in call of duty but more meta than broken cause no legend is broke. Some cooldowns are really good but quite a few kinda suck like pathfinder grapple and some characters are just a bad pick every time. Also the battle passes are underwhelming, the company is owned by those greedy bastards EA, and the things you can unlock and buy are either outrageously expensive and grind heavy or unnecessary and lame. After this far into the games lifespan it still feels like it should be putting out more than it really is. Overall apex at its core is a super solid battle Royale but it has failed to be a solid game in general because the company hasn’t been active and inspiring enough with new updates, content, and gameplay. That said the newest season is a big thumbs up, we just need more of it more consistently to grow the game again. Apex is actually in a really good spot to make a resurgence with how the other big BRs have started lacking but who knows if they will capitalize. The ranked and cheating still remains a big problem and the fact that there aren’t enough casuals compared to grinders in the game. The best battle Royale at the end of the day is the one that actually attracts good casual gameplay. Investing time to be sweaty in video games versus just good is very overrated and ruins the game. Avoid the extremes like fortnite and warzone catering to bots or pros. Apex has a chance if they cater completely to the middle ground but they must push harder.
it’s not s tier, the game is so riddled with cheaters that pro streamers can’t play without getting their servers ddos’d. Also, it doesnt even have solo’s…
@@plaqued9526 its a team based game ans even said it will ruin it but i would like solos. And cheaters. On god thats like every game + were in season 9
Apex is goat. The armor swaps and ttk is where the ability to OUTPLAY THE FUCK OUT OF A FULL SQUAD... S tier all the way.. Warzone.. Ehh... It was fun a couple times
People Armor Swapped for Third Party. It sucks when me and my teammates are low HP after finishing the squads. Then the new squads come to attack us. Armor swap always save our lives.
He's complaining about armor swaps, but those teams usually earned those swaps buy wiping a squad, and its your prerogative whether you think its right to push them, knowing that they have access to swaps, I guess he just wants to be able to steamroll everyone in 1 second with any gun
And that’s why all the streamers who quit fortnite say it’s bad. Because they couldn’t compete with the comp players. Yea I can’t get a 20 bomb this game sucks.
Bruh armor swaps are earned you don’t just armor swap every gun fight you can only do it from killing someone which is amazing it’s literally like how you get 50 health from killing someone in fortnite. Apex is the most balanced game I’ve ever played , if you’re out in the open you can’t get destroyed instantly like in war zone you can use your abilities to get to to cover , and if if you finish someone off and their teammates are coming you sheild swap , apex gives good players the opportunity to be good while war zone gives bad players the opportunity to get lucky and win
I love warzone but there is nothing rewarding about buying your loadout every time to get the guns you want. A battle royal is about the hunt for loot.
@@randomsupra5113 ? I think you’re asking as to why people are saying that fortnite has been in decline from its former self. Fortnite season 1-6 was possibly some of the best hours of my life spent on gaming, it was truly at its peak then.
Hey Tim can you make a Tier list about all the Fortnite Live Events? Because there were some God Events in there and i would like to see what you thought of them.
High ttk is good for skill warzone takes no skill and just one shot and dead, I love warzone btw it’s just that the gunfights are too fast, I like apex cause it takes skill and your ability’s and team coordination.
@@armaanbath9944 yup and I don’t have MMG because I’m a papa meagz fan I know, ironic isn’t it, I have it because I played madden and my name was madden mobile gaming and abb. Mmg
fortnite season 1-9 was the best fucking 2 years of my gaming life. They changed the game they changed so many peoples life they made careers and gave everyone fun
@@CLopez-ss2yh no lol. Seasons 5-9 were the prime of Fortnite, for me season 4,6,7 and 8 were my favorites, season 7 in particular was my favorite aswell as my friend’s favorites. In fact in my opinion the new chapter 2, season 7 is so much fun. Which makes me happy because I havent like fortnite for over a year, but the 7th season of really any of the chapters will most likely be awesome.
I haven’t played a few of these games but the ones that I have would definitely be where there at on his tier list. This was perfect and I couldn’t have put it better myself. Apex is A warzone S and no matter how mad you guys get over him putting fortnite in S+ you cannot deny that at it’s peak it’s one of, if not, the best BR we have ever played.
yea and you know what fortnite has been doing alot you prob don't know since you don't play it but epic does care for there game and i have hope that they will fix it i just know personally i can't leave this game i love it to much and right now its not bad at all the only issue is no siphon in pubs and it needs more people maybe fort with 150 would be pog or they just at a gulag system idk.
Prime fortnite, season 1 - 8 chapter 1, best time of my life, nothing will ever replace old fortnite, BTW I said to season 8 because if you think about it there were so many map changes in those seasons, especially 7 and 8, we got 2 new biomes and everything, but after season 8, they stopped caring about there game so it sucks now :/
@@coopster6918 the thing is if u don’t follow the meta u get shit on, it’s like they can’t balance any gun in that game, it’s either god tier or ass ya know
Tim you don't like the gun play in Apex because it takes more skill than Other games like Warzone when in that game you can just beam people with a AR from over 200m away
@@Shivers48458 actually in my opinion Apex has one of the hardest gun play systems I've ever messed with. Take the Volt or R-99 for example, I mean I play on controller so yea.
Apex wasn’t created for casual players… probably why he doesn’t like it… This is why even public matches in apex are so sweaty is because the skill ceiling for Apex is higher than any other battle Royale period and so the people that keep playing are constantly pushing them selves to become insane with movement and aim
@@abcsavage2845 I mean yea but if you think about it in apex there is now building so you have to play with the environment surrounding you and you have to learn how to play the legend and how to use your abilities to help your teammates
People Armor Swapped for Third Party. It sucks when me and my teammates are low HP after finishing the squads. Then the new squads come to attack us. Armor swap always save our lives.
He said he dont like the Apex gunplay. That scares me. Movement and Gun play the best features and they better in those categories than almost every other game
@@TroutFN not a fan of being shot once and dying. Apex ttk makes sense once you understand how the armor works. Gunplay is the best ive experienced idk what yall requirements are on that
@@rajon8011 there’s a difference from being shot once and dying and apex ttk, in apex it’s way to long, if it had something like health bars over top of people like overwatch did then the ttk would be fine
@@TroutFN health bar is a good idea but they have the damage tracker with every shot. All you gotta do is know how to count and how the armor works. Max armor is 125 health. Once any armor is cracked, youll be notified and from yk he's only got 100 hp and the guy will go down like in Cod.
Not when you play games like Escape From Tarkov. Gunplay in Apex is compared to games like Valorant or Overwatch. It's not "good" gunplay, but that doesn't mean the game itself isn't enjoyable.
Dawg 3rd party is in every single battle royal game that exists at least apex give you a chance to survive 3rd party you can use your abilities, run away and etc
@@luigiisbetterthanmario6916 cod better? Tim and other famous streamers on cod quit that shitty game. And they switch playing Apex Legends. How the tables have turned.
Mans roasting apex for ttk meanwhile he playing warzone where every season theres a broken ass gun, hackers in warzone, then he says gun play man u garbage and cant controll the recoil becouse warzone has 0 recoil
@@emmanuelcooper326 -You have armor the moment you are in the game itself. You can also get better armor easily by swapping or by Replicator -All characters have the same speed in the game when running without guns (devs confirmed it) -Yes characters like Wraith and Wattson have smaller hitbox but since they are smaller they have a passive that makes them receive 15% more damage (much like Gilbraltar and Caustic's Fortified perk, having a bigger hitbox but receives 15% dmg less) -You can kill a person easily if you know how to track -I agree with you lol. The way they buff and nerf is either they overdo it or the opposite (eg. Horizon) -Hackers are common in Apex Predator lobbies (highest rank in the game) but other than that they are rare to encounter in pubs and lower ranked lobbies (which is a problem too)
Apex is S tier just for the innovations alone, I can’t think of a any games even now with as a good ping system. And because the characters have voice lines for the pings anyone no matter what language they speak can play together.
@@RyanRamboer-sv3pm B almost C for me. It’s barely a battle Royale anymore. There’s like 100 ways to bring your team back. Loadout makes looting almost pointless. UAVs and heart beat sensors are crutches for what otherwise would be trash cans. It took them a year to make it to where more than 2 guns are your only option.
@@brQdfrQd oh it’s still a BR... but barely. Again the bringing teammates back 10000000 times makes it more like a regular multiplayer game mode. At least in Apex you needed to get their banner. Is Warzone fun? Sure. But if we are gonna go off of which games gave the best BR experience... Warzone is middle of the pack
Tim Talking about Peak fortnite got me remembering all the memories i made on that game. Best battle Royal ive ever played and happiest times of my life up to that point
Apex is the only BR that I have consistently enjoyed and found myself coming back to since its launch. It's gameplay is smooth, gunplay is tight, movement is satisfying, and the unique legends provide so much personality to the game. Plus, I think (IMHO) Respawn Entertainment is doing a stellar job at implementing beneficial changes and taking in player feedback to improve Apex Legends as a whole on so many levels.
Listen guys, your not denying that peak fortnite is the best game ever, you just cant deny that. It sucks so bad Rn, everyone knows that, but the memories that I have from that game is truly special, and I will never forget it, if only they could fix their game and bring me back to old times
No fortnite was never the best game, even at its peak. You got caught up in the hype. While the game was original and groundbreaking so to speak, it's nothing special. Personally I really enjoy playing Apex, but the whole BR style games is a phad that has been losing momentum for the past 6-8 months, it will stick around and retain a good player base, but it won't be the most popular genre for too much longer. Apex is definitely the best BR tho. The movement is second to none, the gunplay itself is fantastic but the weapon balance could use work. The TTK in Apex is what makes it the superior game. More often than not, the longer TTK increases the chance that the better player wins a 1v1 fight(if you don't get 3rd partied). It forces you to hit your shots and incorporate the rest of the gameplay into a fight. Someone might be more accurate with their gun, but if I have better movement and a higher game IQ then I can use them to make up for a weakness. Warzone is spray and pray. You spray in apex, ima 1 clip you and then wipe the rest of your squad
@@benstatgod you apparently suck at cod if you think it’s spray and pray 99% of the time skill or positioning wins. Apex is mediocre at best they’ll never have the following cod and fort it’s have or had bc they’re literal eons better games I loved apex when it came out but it died out fast
I think apex should be S, I'm a cod kid, since bo1, I love the gunfighting, and I hate warzones time to kill, high ttk literally just means you need to have more skill sooo if that's ur issue then ur bad, warzone is definitely a, u can't even react before ur dead if the enemy is cracked, and almost everyone is, I entirely agree with fortnite, but also apex is the reason fortnite got fixed, apex changed the pinging system entirely by allowing individual item pings (was said in chat, but nonetheless true)
Minecraft Hungergames is what started it all. Inspired by hungergames the movies. Then came the BR games based on it, including pubg and fortnite. The idea of scavenging for gear and weapons, afterward hunting your enemies down and being the last player standing. Minecraft hungergames should be S+. The one that started it all.
Warzone is a hot C tbh. Overrated . Not hating cause I’m “bad” , there’s guns that are way too OP, MW movement in my opinion is super ass, campers everywhere on roofs, can’t hear footsteps even without people using dead silence, dead silence is op and dropped way too often and it needs to be put out of the game. Load outs are broken as hell.
I'd agree, for me, warzone is like C. I dislike the movement, and how difficult it is for me to find people in BR. The only guns that are worth it to use are your loadout guns, but you have to play a shit ton with those guns at low level and do well with them in order to get good attachments and good weapons. I hate the camping. It's just off for me. I prefer faster paced games like apex that reward good movement and gunplay (higher ttk)
I would really really like warzone if it wasn’t for all the campers and the beginning gameplay, it’s the slowest thing ever and the game endorses those type of players which is bs, and time to kill is insanely fast. If you see the person first, you basically win. Which is stupid and once again endorses a campy and slow play style.
It's dumb because Tim hasn't played Apex in 6 seasons, and he said he doesn't like high ttk and armor swaps. So basically he doesn't like apex because it's harder to play and he is ass
Gun play and high TTK is literally what makes apex special, aside from mobility. It's the closest game to replicate that super high intensity and arcady BO2 feel from back in the day. The fact that fights take much longer than usual is such a fresh breath of air. Nobody likes to die in 3 shots to a stupidly OP gun.
Fortnite definitely isn’t doing it’s best right now but there’s something really special about it. It’s the first br game I’ve ever played and was introduced to me by my childhood friend and I started on a switch lite and moved on to many other devices. I’ve tried many br games “Apex” “Pubg” “Valorant” “Rogue company” and more and by far Fortnite was the best, no question abt it
Wait a minute Tim says he doesn’t like the fact that you can armor swap in apex after getting a kill but love the fact that in fortnite you can get armor and health on kills 🧐 come now timmyus
How are those the same at all? To put simply, one requires skill, and one requires clicking a button. One siphon kill gives you back a quarter of max health. You still can’t fight someone of equal skill level if someone were to rush you right after you received a siphon kill as opposed to picking up a brand new armor which completely fucks up rushing someone after you leave them a bullet.
@@navapoomsathatham5128 not really once you know how to play the game you do it passively and it’s mainly used as a defensive thing if you leave someone one shot you just pursue or back off based on the situation it’s a skill gap of apex
Tim explaining how much he loves warzone reminds me of when faze adapt was stuttering saying I love and I I love and I love it I love it and I i I love it😂😂😂😂
I love warzone, I only play warzone since release but it has never been and never will be nowhere near peak fortnite. Peak fortnite was insane and the way they changed the game in so many ways including battle pass that Tim didn’t include
hot take Blackout >>>> Warzone took way more skill knowing how to use ground loot guns and loot attachments only thing that sucked on console was the inventory system
You know, honestly I dont mind that Tim hates apex, but at the same time, everything he said about it was pretty much "it's harder, theres more room for play making, I'm a cod bandwagonner" hear me out. I love Tim so I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm dogging on him. But his negatives on it were literally the same as saying "I dont like making plays, I like standing still aiming and shooting." Cause that's what the higher time to kill and the shield swaps are for. Gotta work a bit harder for your kills. I dont remember fortnite having a very low ttk? I dont know, that shits kinda got me triggered a bit I'm not gonna lie. I think tim was just god awful at apex and if he got any good at it, hed feel differently. I get it, hes a boots on the ground type of guy. Well I like to have fun, I get bored if the same old gunplay same old "no ability" type shit, same old "dead before you can make a play" type shit. Maybe that's just the difference between a cod player and a halo/tf2 player. I enjoy the big differences and the high ttk gameplay and futuristic type guns. I'm done watching this video though imma skip on it. Cant listen to Tim talk shit about a game that he was never even good at.
One thing I noticed was when Apex first came out Tim was streaming it a lot even after the sponsorships he was getting so he decided to play a new game even without getting payed to do it and he seemed to enjoy it until others like Ninja and a good amount of his Fortnite friends would attack him for playing. Apex to much I just think he lost his joy for the game cause his friends never really wanted to play apex as much as he did
Apex should be s tier man those pluses you mentioned plus the facts that there are literally legends that have special abilities that con change each game and you can strategize around like come on
Just to put in my 2 cent's what about Unreal Tournament, Team ForTress, Quake these totally deserve an honorable mention as these started the Battle Royale Genre.
Fortnite pre-season 9 was S++ Tier man. I LOVED that game, I truly miss the pure enjoyment I got during season 3- season 6 no other game will ever match that bro
it's kind of ironic how he says he doesn't like Apex's gunplay because of all the CoD he's played because Respawn is comprised of a bunch of ex Infinity Ward Devs
S- Apex Legends (Fortnite golden age lovers don't even comment) A- Warzone(season 1-6) B- Arma 3, Blackout C- Fortnite(Golden age), Warzone(CW) D- Pubg, Firestorm, Fortnite(Current), Hyperscape I haven't played the others.
Yeah, the game is just way to slow paced, the fights are just like classic cod but I would rather just play a multi-player cod match where I really don't have to worry about dying because I can always respawn and its a lot faster paced, although I still probably wouldn't even play a regular cod multi-player match because I'm not really a fan of the newer games
@@Von.NorthEnd It gets a lot of points for the Gulag, the buying system (customized loadouts), its all unique. Also, the reason it takes too long is because of the huge maps and time to kill. Makes it feel more realistic actually which is a plus for some. Apex, for example, getting shot is not nearly as impactful. You can just dip out, rearmor and get back in the fight. Although i can see why people would like that as well.
apex is the best current br and possibly best ever simply bc of its longevity, the rest of the brs are simply not good anymore, people don’t even play the main warzone one anymore
Tim should've put Apex in S+ being the only game he hasn't died to fall damage
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As much as people hate on fortnite, peak fortnite was special. It will go down as the best br in history. I hope epic fixes fortnite
Epic is doing a great job the community isnt bad too apex cod players hate on the game for having toxic players but apex and cod has way more toxic its just that they should make it ping based instead of wins
@@danzannyambaatar3662 idk. Just
Like tim said, I think current fortnite sucks, epic is spending more time making updates for rocket league than fortnite. The fortnite I loved is gone
@@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778 tbh i dont play it anymore cuz of work but i keep up with news incase something crazy happens tim once tweeted that he wants to make fortnite a platform its way to comp but if i grind creative for one week its pretty easy to get better
@@danzannyambaatar3662 they've removed a ton of the fun items because of pros and sweats. The community is kinda shit and u either steamroll everyone or get destroyed. They also have sold out for all the crossover stuff, and let it completely change the game. It also feels like they kinda abandoned it because of super infrequent updates, and I would be fine with them reusing old game modes, but they just kinda let it be dry
@@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778 because you didn’t want to adapt to change
The game is still fun you just don’t like it
Apex is my number one favorite its so balanced and each character having different powers make it 90% better
I would 100% put apex with fortnite
You’re on drugs thinking apex is that good 🤣🤣🤣
@@HockeyFan102 your on drugs thinking apex is not good
@@HockeyFan102 bro it is way better
@@beyndavrg3037 isn't every game good and bad lol
Respect for the stance on Warzone, I love the game as well, and there’s so much potential, yet so much holding it back. Peak Fortnite before all the memes was near unbeatable in its hype. I despise the game now tho lol
Me too man it was so fun back in the day, now it sucks
I still play Fortnite but your right it's not as enjoyable. I don't mind SBMM, but Fortnites SBMM is the worst developed SBMM out there. You will get players 10x better than you and have no chance at all.
Fortnite has SBMM??? Also back then fortnite was the best i loved it and the skins i had but now its shit
Damn I miss those Fortnite days
People who despise it just think there cool
The tier lists are his best videos in my opinion
The best of the month series
Even if I disagree with him on some, i always enjoy hearing his takes and why he likes/dislikes something
@@gemubebop3777 same
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Lol everyone disagrees with him on apex.
I sure don’t hackers literally know more about the game than the developers themselves to the point hackers if they really wanted to could easily take full position not their game respawn is one joke of a developer group
@@eddiechestnuts1588 you probably play war zone where it’s full of hackers bro 🤷🏻♂️
Apex has some of the best movement and gunplay imo.
Yeah, it's dumb because Tim hasn't played it in 6 seasons, and he said he doesn't like high ttk and armor swaps. So basically he doesn't like apex because it's harder to play and he is ass
I think the hate for the game came from its launch, it was kinda bad
@@ajcooper1093 true, he likes using broken guns and sucks when everyone has the same guns where attachments all do the same thing and everyone is forced to use the same attachments
@@ajcooper1093 yes, but I feel that saying that Tim is trash has nothing to do with this
@@ajcooper1093 I genuinely despise warzone in part for its extreme lack of mechanical skill, but on the other end, Apex (which imo is the best) is super demanding. Tim isnt an amazing mechanical player, but I think just boiling down his problem with apex to him just being ass isnt entirely fair to tim. I dont disagree with your point, I just think it's a little reductionist.
when you put fortnite in the S+ tier made me tear up we miss the old squads and how things developed through that game
I’m at a point where I get on Fortnite for the nostalgia but too many sweaty 10 year olds
@@jettsamuelson9669 it doesn't even bring back memories all I think of is how shit the game is
Couldnt be more true
@@jettsamuelson9669 I go on for the umbrella every season still 😂
@@jettsamuelson9669 the sweats could easily not be a problem by adding a gulag mechanic so that the casuals could atleast have a chance to be engaged in matches regardless of lossing or not
It's weird watching this after seeing how much he's been enjoying Apex
I remember when Tim called getting killed by Shrouds team in Blackout
I was thinking the same thing when he brought up blackout
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I need love 💕
I remember that.
Fortnite was everything man, I have an emotional attachment to what the game used to be. So many amazing memories. They completely changed the gaming industry. People forget how AMAZING it was when crossplay came about, all of the insane collabs and live events, the creative mode with creator codes. Most of these games on this list wouldn't exist if not for Fortnite. I'm really upset with where the game has gone, they used to have the most solid community in the gaming landscape because Epic listened to everything we said and suggested, they do what they want now. While the game isn't what it was, it still has incredible building mechanics that are in a league of their own and separate it from every other Battle Royale out there. Peak Fortnite is one of the greatest games of all time and we won't see and feel something like it for very very long time.
Agreed
Playground was more fun than creative tbh... (my opinion)
@@topxyt0 big facts
I miss all the funny things u could do with people like dancing all game and building giant buildings but now u go in there and some kid cranks 8 90s and obliterates u bc they trying to get recognition
Are you INSANE? Literally chapter 1 consisted of players screeching at Epic every single updated for changes they made and how they ignored players. Like this isn't even a question of opinion you are objectively wrong here.
TTK in Apex creates more skilled, entertaining and intense fights in the game where its not just you see somebody and kill them right away. Also shield swaps really does help with resolving 3rd parties, making it a good thing and not a bad thing.
This is why Apex is the only BR game where I feel comfortable rushing like a madman.
I lowkey kinda wish the ttk is shortened. Not shortened significantly. But shortened. I'm personally not a fan of long ttk
@@Knighthood5394 it’s not that long when you think about it… but lowering ttk like they did in season 6 would only ruin the game
I watched a apex tournament and it was shit and fun to watch
@@playboicartiuwu It was a complete disaster to be honest. You could be dropped way to easily ruining the fast paced action that makes it so awesome in the first place.
Apex is S for me because it has insane movement and the characters are amazing
Yessir
Apex is s+ because of the movement, gun play. But just like tim said if warzone had a anti cheat (and to be honest a casual mode and then a rank mode) it would be s+
@@WhiteGamerGuy1337 it doesn’t need a rank mode
@@yaboykev5627 yes, yes it does.
He didnt like the gun play because it actually had great hit detection and the gun kinda take a skill. Unlike warzone when nothing has bullet drop lol
he doesnt like armor swaping in apex? thats the one skill gap lol
Skill gap? It’s just clicking on a box and swapping armour
@@jack_kerins Yes, which most average or below players don’t normally do which makes them lose most fights to players that do in fights, which makes it a skill gap.
@@imluccky27 idk I dont consider that a skill gap imo it’s something players have to train hours to improve and get better constantly raising the bar, armour swapping takes at most 1 minute of reconsideration and the then the “gap” is instantly crossed with little to no hard work
@@jack_kerins look bro if youve ever play apex at a higher level than diamond then you will know that a armour swap can be outgunned by good movment and if you wanna shut that shit down completely emp with crypto
@@jack_kerins to click on a box means letting go of ur momentum which could get u killed instantly
Peak pubg, damn. That game was amazing, I loved watching shroud play the game. Weapons were what they should be, difficult to control, you take damage you had to heal manually, no special weapons or classes, you had to look for you own grips and compensators andif you died well you were dead, no gulag, no buy backs, you either had it or you didn’t have it.
Man I wish Fortnite was good again miss those good old days
Fr. Even though I wasn’t a big gamer(I played all the cod’s before this came out) I think this was the game that made me play a lot more than usual
@Rohit Suresh don’t give a fuck that game was a A on their peak it was never a A + (I’m an og)
@@lucky2593 bro ur wrong and how og are you? Cuz if your like season 4 then ok I get it but if you played in season 1-3 and you don’t rank that A+ you are just wrong
I started in season 1 and the whole reason I loved it is the building aspect, I actually think it's in better shape now than in the last year. I'm happy they brought back bouncers and Shockwaves cuz now I can do fun shit
@@lucky2593 I'm also an og. Played since season 2. This was the first shooter I had ever been madly addicted to. Only game that rivaled it for me in terms of entertainment was league of legends in its prime.
He doesn't like gun play because in apex you need to hit most of the bullets, not 3 and he is dead.
More like: unless you hit a speeding bullet with a full mag, you are barely denting purple and gold armor, for them to slap a Kramer shot and you die. That's how RNG and people with no skill claim that getting shot first is less skill than being able to counter.
@@MrSpronkets Kraber is a care package exclusive weapon (only endgame)with very high drop and very low RPM, but yeh sure your gonna get killed if the other player is better and your movement is shit. Sounds like someone styled on you
@@sweloh factss, this guy got destroyed 🤣🤣
@@bbmintah8509 we aint talking about recoil here, u have to control that in apex too, I am pretty sure someone like tim never tried to control flatline with no attacments but a 2x-4x
It's not apex has recoil too, apex is the only br game with recoil that's not dead, fornite and wz could be played by a 5 year old
Apex easily has the best movement, gunplay is incredible. im sorry you cant wait more then half a second to kill someone. also it has RANKED. but ite cuh
Most people are casuals bro lol, they want games that don’t take skill
@@2kShewPlug all games are sweaty Now and days
Apex has a trash br. I only play it for arenas
@@Knighthood5394 lol so youre bad at the game? got it
@@luke2687 or (bare with me now) I don't enjoy the br. And skill should have nothing to do with liking a game or not. Thats such a dumb mindset
Oh YoU don't Like ThE GaMe becAuSe yOur bad. Shut up
Time to kill is one of the best things about Apex.
@@trossity9930 exactly I've always said this. You can be the best player in the world on warzone and still get clipped by an average player. The guns don't have any recoil imo. But in apex you have to have real skill to kill the cracked players in your lobbies. Try killing a couch spamming wraith. It's so annoying
ImAPotatoCat lmao classic smooth brain response
@@TheNineRaven worst comeback. ..wtf😂
@@TheNineRaven bruh...
@@TheNineRaven I mean you can literally get killed in like 0.3 seconds with full armor so it does make sense that he is complaining
Apex takes dedication. Warzone you can drop with the broken gun for that week and be insane. But try that in apex and you will get dropped faster than you jumping from the drop ship.
Yup, all you need In warzone is the next broken gun and OK aim to kill anyone
@@aydin2340 I don't play warzone anymore, and I'm kinda glad because from what I heard/seen the br is dogshit now. Apex was the only game that kept me playing since day one
@@petrherrmann2693 Warzone was ok before CW was implemented. Apex is consistent and refreshing to play bc just like Titanfa 2, u don't get the same kind of fights
That’s the fun in warzone and why’s it’s more popular stop crying
@@petrherrmann2693 well the meta has been balanced lately as you can use more than one single gun now that you’d like. Up until they released that damn LMG
Minecraft hunger games was the OG battle royale, so good, best ever.
Nice😪😪😪 😐👉🚪
You should play Apex again it's a blast especially with the new mode
Best season yet
For real I’m enjoying apex
apex is the best br
@@Watsie truuuueeee
@@Watsie 100%
Apex is definitely S tier due to the fact that it’s a basic BR. (RNG instead of using the same broken loadouts like everyone else) better movement, unique character abilities, Ranked, TTK was perfect, & actually requires skill.
blackout A tier: due to the fact that it had a better map. The locations were all unique like asylum, lighthouse, firing range, etc. no broken loadouts/META weapons like warzone. Only thing that warzone has done better than blackout is having a Gulag, & buy backs
I’m with you, apex feels more refined as a battle Royale where call of duty makes more sense to me outside of warzone. TTK should be on the higher side in a battle royale always.
I will say that with all the positives apex brings it’s still kinda disappointing. There are only a couple legends that are really fun to play and get picked by good players. Octane, bloodhound, wraith over and over again. So it’s similar to broken load outs in call of duty but more meta than broken cause no legend is broke. Some cooldowns are really good but quite a few kinda suck like pathfinder grapple and some characters are just a bad pick every time. Also the battle passes are underwhelming, the company is owned by those greedy bastards EA, and the things you can unlock and buy are either outrageously expensive and grind heavy or unnecessary and lame.
After this far into the games lifespan it still feels like it should be putting out more than it really is. Overall apex at its core is a super solid battle Royale but it has failed to be a solid game in general because the company hasn’t been active and inspiring enough with new updates, content, and gameplay. That said the newest season is a big thumbs up, we just need more of it more consistently to grow the game again.
Apex is actually in a really good spot to make a resurgence with how the other big BRs have started lacking but who knows if they will capitalize. The ranked and cheating still remains a big problem and the fact that there aren’t enough casuals compared to grinders in the game. The best battle Royale at the end of the day is the one that actually attracts good casual gameplay. Investing time to be sweaty in video games versus just good is very overrated and ruins the game. Avoid the extremes like fortnite and warzone catering to bots or pros. Apex has a chance if they cater completely to the middle ground but they must push harder.
it’s not s tier, the game is so riddled with cheaters that pro streamers can’t play without getting their servers ddos’d. Also, it doesnt even have solo’s…
@@plaqued9526 lol that recently just happened, the game has been out for what ? 9 seasons before the hackers came along
@@YMan-zo5kg terrible game stfu
@@plaqued9526 its a team based game ans even said it will ruin it but i would like solos.
And cheaters.
On god thats like every game + were in season 9
Apex is goat. The armor swaps and ttk is where the ability to OUTPLAY THE FUCK OUT OF A FULL SQUAD... S tier all the way..
Warzone.. Ehh... It was fun a couple times
People don’t understand that lol, apex is for skilled players. With Warzone all you gotta do is sneeze on some one and you in the gulag smh
People Armor Swapped for Third Party. It sucks when me and my teammates are low HP after finishing the squads. Then the new squads come to attack us. Armor swap always save our lives.
Lmaooo fr
That what I’m saying
Apex is literally the only one up there where character picks completely change how you play the game. This alone puts it above all the others.
Spellbreak dose?
@@crashyt7171 what's that
@@crashyt7171 true but apex does it way better. Also it wasn’t on the tier list.
Yeah yeah but you play more fortnite since you watch this channel
Apex is ass
He's complaining about armor swaps, but those teams usually earned those swaps buy wiping a squad, and its your prerogative whether you think its right to push them, knowing that they have access to swaps, I guess he just wants to be able to steamroll everyone in 1 second with any gun
That's warzone
And that’s why all the streamers who quit fortnite say it’s bad. Because they couldn’t compete with the comp players. Yea I can’t get a 20 bomb this game sucks.
Bruh armor swaps are earned you don’t just armor swap every gun fight you can only do it from killing someone which is amazing it’s literally like how you get 50 health from killing someone in fortnite. Apex is the most balanced game I’ve ever played , if you’re out in the open you can’t get destroyed instantly like in war zone you can use your abilities to get to to cover , and if if you finish someone off and their teammates are coming you sheild swap , apex gives good players the opportunity to be good while war zone gives bad players the opportunity to get lucky and win
You could write a Harry Potter size book on the amount of broken weapons and glitches in war zone
they fixed them
@@milkman5180 no they didnt. Literally watched tim get 1 bursted by the aug on his stream. The sykovs still massively broken.
@@onokian stopping power or he was low
@@onokian sykovs are ass lmao
@@onokian nah guy had stomping power on aug, I tried using nickmercs aug setup again and it’s like a 4 Burst minimum
I love warzone but there is nothing rewarding about buying your loadout every time to get the guns you want. A battle royal is about the hunt for loot.
that’s what makes it different
@@khodorhammoud22 its what makes it shit
Better than fortnite and apex
Thermals or cheaters every game.
No, battle royale is literally the hunger games 🤷♂️
Warzone, Apex, H1Z1: the holy trinity of brs
But fortnite isn’t “early” anymore. Therefore it’s a duo
@@stonksagent9040 true. I'll change it to h1z1 or pubg. Probably h1z1 tho
I have a question
Why do people say fortnite the is in a decline since "the old days"
@@randomsupra5113 ? I think you’re asking as to why people are saying that fortnite has been in decline from its former self.
Fortnite season 1-6 was possibly some of the best hours of my life spent on gaming, it was truly at its peak then.
@@stonksagent9040 yep that's what I mean
Fortnite ch.1 season 1-5, brings tears to my eyes thinking about it
hands down best time i’ve had ever
I honestly miss it so much. Like I constantly just sit and think about all the great times I had and all the friends I had made.
Ikr
I started fn in s4 and left in sX, one of the best times in my life , I recently came back as a casual and it’s still a decent game
Hey Tim can you make a Tier list about all the Fortnite Live Events? Because there were some God Events in there and i would like to see what you thought of them.
I think apex is s because of the skill u need, the gun play is amazing, so is the movement and characters, defo better than warzone
@@emmanuelcooper326 I mean it doesn’t even take 2 secs to kill if u can aim 🤷♂️
Also u get a shield when u first drop
@@emmanuelcooper326 Just saying they made it so you always have a shield when u land
@@emmanuelcooper326 EA was the one handling the servers ever since Apex released????
@@lukaslilley9917 no
"Here's what I'll say" -Tim before he says anything
The timing I read this was spot on
@@jayjavdav403 wtf for me too
@@jorgeaguilar8494 dude me too🤣
High ttk is good for skill warzone takes no skill and just one shot and dead, I love warzone btw it’s just that the gunfights are too fast, I like apex cause it takes skill and your ability’s and team coordination.
I feel like if it was lower the third partying in warzone would be as bad as apex imo
@@fortis12 ye that’s the downside, the third partying
aye u a papa meags fan??? If so big dubs for our 6'5 245 savior
@@armaanbath9944 yup and I don’t have MMG because I’m a papa meagz fan I know, ironic isn’t it, I have it because I played madden and my name was madden mobile gaming and abb. Mmg
@@armaanbath9944 YES 245 foot savior
fortnite season 1-9 was the best fucking 2 years of my gaming life. They changed the game they changed so many peoples life they made careers and gave everyone fun
1-5
I swear ive seen the same ppl in chat saying 'L' and 'W' for the same game 😂😂
Fortnite Seasons 5-9 was peak Fortnite. And I’m quite happy to still be playing the game today.
5-9?!? Are you fucking high, maybe that is when Fortnite was the most popular but the best seasons were no doubt 2-4
@@CLopez-ss2yh no lol. Seasons 5-9 were the prime of Fortnite, for me season 4,6,7 and 8 were my favorites, season 7 in particular was my favorite aswell as my friend’s favorites. In fact in my opinion the new chapter 2, season 7 is so much fun. Which makes me happy because I havent like fortnite for over a year, but the 7th season of really any of the chapters will most likely be awesome.
@@yaboyrgonyoutube3718 will this is why we will never be friends Ryan
@@CLopez-ss2yh excuse me?
Eh I feel more like 3-7 after season 8 it really fell off they removed all iconic locations and guns and added way to much dumb shit
I haven’t played a few of these games but the ones that I have would definitely be where there at on his tier list. This was perfect and I couldn’t have put it better myself. Apex is A warzone S and no matter how mad you guys get over him putting fortnite in S+ you cannot deny that at it’s peak it’s one of, if not, the best BR we have ever played.
Warzone is for casuals lol and fortnite blew up cause of timmy’s. Even my 5 year old brother was playing that shit
@@2kShewPlug 🤡
@@2kShewPlug 🧢 fortnite in seasons 1-4 was the best, you know it too stop lying to yourself
@@king-qi2ks it blew up cause of little kids like you who wanted v-bucks lmao
@@2kShewPlug no no he’s got a point
good thing apex is still peaking! (apex is S tier if you like it or not numbers and gameplay both)
@@TheNineRaven your name is potato cat stfu
Shut up my guy
I don’t mind apex but it’s not on the same level as warzone so I think a tier is fair
@@EverythingBrainrotTest nah like c tier
@@EverythingBrainrotTest it’s better than Warzone. It has three maps on constant rotation, a ranked mode, balanced guns, and no sbmm
Peek fortnite will always be remembered😌 if only epic would just listen to the bigger creators again
yea and you know what fortnite has been doing alot you prob don't know since you don't play it but epic does care for there game and i have hope that they will fix it i just know personally i can't leave this game i love it to much and right now its not bad at all the only issue is no siphon in pubs and it needs more people maybe fort with 150 would be pog or they just at a gulag system idk.
The game is fine the way it is. Like wtf you want? Double pump? Old damn map? Get good or get off.
@@cryptic_power6047 yeah
Prime fortnite, season 1 - 8 chapter 1, best time of my life, nothing will ever replace old fortnite, BTW I said to season 8 because if you think about it there were so many map changes in those seasons, especially 7 and 8, we got 2 new biomes and everything, but after season 8, they stopped caring about there game so it sucks now :/
yeah completely agree, season 8 was an amazing season, season 9 compared to now is very good but back then it wasnt great
Season 3 was the best season imo and at the time fortnite was the best game I've ever played
@@olli3firth622 Yeah 100%
@@gamerabe9568 Yeah me too man I loved the space theme for that season and everything, and the map and fun items were sick
Warzone when playing with friends is an S 100%, but when you play solos, it might be a B or C, I could even maybe say max A
War zone during the Bruin Grau meta for me was the second most fun game ever next to mw2
Warzone when playing against Sweats and cheaters 24/7 is the worst game ever
Nah that game is boring
Modern warfare cool tho
@@coopster6918 the thing is if u don’t follow the meta u get shit on, it’s like they can’t balance any gun in that game, it’s either god tier or ass ya know
Tim you don't like the gun play in Apex because it takes more skill than Other games like Warzone when in that game you can just beam people with a AR from over 200m away
exactly
Apex guns dont take as much skill as warzone guns imo, I love apex tho it's just that titanfall is better
@@Shivers48458 actually in my opinion Apex has one of the hardest gun play systems I've ever messed with. Take the Volt or R-99 for example, I mean I play on controller so yea.
@@FaultyStar274 I do to, Ik what you mean the legends also change up the gameplay aswelll
@@Shivers48458 yea, its the only game that let's this happen.
Apex wasn’t created for casual players… probably why he doesn’t like it… This is why even public matches in apex are so sweaty is because the skill ceiling for Apex is higher than any other battle Royale period and so the people that keep playing are constantly pushing them selves to become insane with movement and aim
Yeah bro ur right
Yea I agree apex is the best br game out right now because it actually takes skill and knowledge to know how to be good at the game
As much as I despise current Fortnite, it has the highest skill ceiling purely because of building and editing
@@abcsavage2845 I mean yea but if you think about it in apex there is now building so you have to play with the environment surrounding you and you have to learn how to play the legend and how to use your abilities to help your teammates
People Armor Swapped for Third Party. It sucks when me and my teammates are low HP after finishing the squads. Then the new squads come to attack us. Armor swap always save our lives.
He said he dont like the Apex gunplay. That scares me. Movement and Gun play the best features and they better in those categories than almost every other game
Movement in apex is good but gunplay and ttk is so bad
@@TroutFN not a fan of being shot once and dying. Apex ttk makes sense once you understand how the armor works. Gunplay is the best ive experienced idk what yall requirements are on that
@@rajon8011 there’s a difference from being shot once and dying and apex ttk, in apex it’s way to long, if it had something like health bars over top of people like overwatch did then the ttk would be fine
@@TroutFN health bar is a good idea but they have the damage tracker with every shot. All you gotta do is know how to count and how the armor works. Max armor is 125 health. Once any armor is cracked, youll be notified and from yk he's only got 100 hp and the guy will go down like in Cod.
Not when you play games like Escape From Tarkov. Gunplay in Apex is compared to games like Valorant or Overwatch. It's not "good" gunplay, but that doesn't mean the game itself isn't enjoyable.
No hate at all, but Apex is no cap the best battleroyal. But it is one of the hardest to master.
Mastering 3rd partying is definitely hard.
Dawg 3rd party is in every single battle royal game that exists at least apex give you a chance to survive 3rd party you can use your abilities, run away and etc
Nah cod better
@@luigiisbetterthanmario6916 cod better? Tim and other famous streamers on cod quit that shitty game. And they switch playing Apex Legends. How the tables have turned.
@@nessaj6359 and then he switched back
Mans roasting apex for ttk meanwhile he playing warzone where every season theres a broken ass gun, hackers in warzone, then he says gun play man u garbage and cant controll the recoil becouse warzone has 0 recoil
Yea fr. I switched to apex 2 weeks ago from Warzone and best thing ever.
Tim would get smacked on apex no cap
Lol
@@emmanuelcooper326
-You have armor the moment you are in the game itself. You can also get better armor easily by swapping or by Replicator
-All characters have the same speed in the game when running without guns (devs confirmed it)
-Yes characters like Wraith and Wattson have smaller hitbox but since they are smaller they have a passive that makes them receive 15% more damage (much like Gilbraltar and Caustic's Fortified perk, having a bigger hitbox but receives 15% dmg less)
-You can kill a person easily if you know how to track
-I agree with you lol. The way they buff and nerf is either they overdo it or the opposite (eg. Horizon)
-Hackers are common in Apex Predator lobbies (highest rank in the game) but other than that they are rare to encounter in pubs and lower ranked lobbies (which is a problem too)
@@abrahamreyes6435 Apex is such a fun and exciting game, the gunplay is great
you can't really take tim seriously when talking about br's when he plays warzone for 8 hours a day lol
It's hard to take any battle royale seriously.
@@MrSpronkets ok? dont like br's dont watch them
@@NJohnson420 dont like tims opinions? dont watch this vid
@@MoonMoon-hd6gp don't like my comment? don't reply
@@NJohnson420 just pointing out your utter stupidity bro dont get triggered
I never played h1z1 but that’s what got me really into brs, so fun to watch at first
ohhh what a perfect time for UA-cam to recommend me this. Tim is loving apex rn
Apex is S tier just for the innovations alone, I can’t think of a any games even now with as a good ping system. And because the characters have voice lines for the pings anyone no matter what language they speak can play together.
Warzone as “S” tier is wild to me.
i just dont enjoy it at all it would be in b for me or c
@@RyanRamboer-sv3pm B almost C for me. It’s barely a battle Royale anymore. There’s like 100 ways to bring your team back. Loadout makes looting almost pointless. UAVs and heart beat sensors are crutches for what otherwise would be trash cans. It took them a year to make it to where more than 2 guns are your only option.
@@BHsermonjamsA Battle Royale isn't defined by looting or team systems though... There could be one gun only and it would still be a BR.
@@brQdfrQd oh it’s still a BR... but barely. Again the bringing teammates back 10000000 times makes it more like a regular multiplayer game mode. At least in Apex you needed to get their banner. Is Warzone fun? Sure. But if we are gonna go off of which games gave the best BR experience... Warzone is middle of the pack
@@BHsermonjams I mean, that is purely subjective. I like WZ, you like Apex. And that is fine :)
Tim Talking about Peak fortnite got me remembering all the memories i made on that game. Best battle Royal ive ever played and happiest times of my life up to that point
Again Kevin works so hard. He needs his own table or merch or headset or something.
feels good that H1Z1 is still getting at least some recognition, one of the last games i really enjoyed playing
Apex is the only BR that I have consistently enjoyed and found myself coming back to since its launch. It's gameplay is smooth, gunplay is tight, movement is satisfying, and the unique legends provide so much personality to the game. Plus, I think (IMHO) Respawn Entertainment is doing a stellar job at implementing beneficial changes and taking in player feedback to improve Apex Legends as a whole on so many levels.
Listen guys, your not denying that peak fortnite is the best game ever, you just cant deny that. It sucks so bad Rn, everyone knows that, but the memories that I have from that game is truly special, and I will never forget it, if only they could fix their game and bring me back to old times
Peak fortnite is still not the best game ever
@@veerpatel3763 best battle royal ever
@@veerpatel3763 It is. Your favourites dont matter. Mine is Halo 3. But Fortnite simply changed so many things for the better.
No fortnite was never the best game, even at its peak. You got caught up in the hype. While the game was original and groundbreaking so to speak, it's nothing special. Personally I really enjoy playing Apex, but the whole BR style games is a phad that has been losing momentum for the past 6-8 months, it will stick around and retain a good player base, but it won't be the most popular genre for too much longer. Apex is definitely the best BR tho. The movement is second to none, the gunplay itself is fantastic but the weapon balance could use work. The TTK in Apex is what makes it the superior game. More often than not, the longer TTK increases the chance that the better player wins a 1v1 fight(if you don't get 3rd partied). It forces you to hit your shots and incorporate the rest of the gameplay into a fight. Someone might be more accurate with their gun, but if I have better movement and a higher game IQ then I can use them to make up for a weakness. Warzone is spray and pray. You spray in apex, ima 1 clip you and then wipe the rest of your squad
@@benstatgod you apparently suck at cod if you think it’s spray and pray 99% of the time skill or positioning wins. Apex is mediocre at best they’ll never have the following cod and fort it’s have or had bc they’re literal eons better games I loved apex when it came out but it died out fast
I honestly watch this channel more than any of Tim’s other content 💀
I’d love to see Tim rank apex now🤣🤣
I’m lovin all the tier lists Tim is doing
I think apex should be S, I'm a cod kid, since bo1, I love the gunfighting, and I hate warzones time to kill, high ttk literally just means you need to have more skill sooo if that's ur issue then ur bad, warzone is definitely a, u can't even react before ur dead if the enemy is cracked, and almost everyone is, I entirely agree with fortnite, but also apex is the reason fortnite got fixed, apex changed the pinging system entirely by allowing individual item pings (was said in chat, but nonetheless true)
Minecraft Hungergames is what started it all. Inspired by hungergames the movies. Then came the BR games based on it, including pubg and fortnite.
The idea of scavenging for gear and weapons, afterward hunting your enemies down and being the last player standing. Minecraft hungergames should be S+. The one that started it all.
Warzone is a hot C tbh. Overrated . Not hating cause I’m “bad” , there’s guns that are way too OP, MW movement in my opinion is super ass, campers everywhere on roofs, can’t hear footsteps even without people using dead silence, dead silence is op and dropped way too often and it needs to be put out of the game. Load outs are broken as hell.
Good points. I can't stand when BRs do NOTHING to stop campers, and the Warzone maps damn near encourage it.
I'd agree, for me, warzone is like C. I dislike the movement, and how difficult it is for me to find people in BR. The only guns that are worth it to use are your loadout guns, but you have to play a shit ton with those guns at low level and do well with them in order to get good attachments and good weapons. I hate the camping. It's just off for me. I prefer faster paced games like apex that reward good movement and gunplay (higher ttk)
facts
warzone should have died a while ago but people are so ass at making stable BRs
Peak Apex is S to S+ easily. Can’t put H1Z1 there and not put Apex there.
Apex still is s+ tbh season is the beat season so far every legend is balanced
Tim be like : I don’t like apex
2 months later : I love apex
😁😂😂😂😂😂
I would really really like warzone if it wasn’t for all the campers and the beginning gameplay, it’s the slowest thing ever and the game endorses those type of players which is bs, and time to kill is insanely fast. If you see the person first, you basically win. Which is stupid and once again endorses a campy and slow play style.
Yea, its whoever gets seen first dies, there is NO TIME to react
@@aydin2340 pretty much, you might as well just drop the controller when you get shot
@@dontdoubtmyshot131 yea
Apex literally changed the playing field of BR's much like how Fortnite did lol. Should be S, if only they updated it more
They updated it a lot what do you mean?
Absolute cap 🧢
facts it introduced so many little things that are so important now
It's dumb because Tim hasn't played Apex in 6 seasons, and he said he doesn't like high ttk and armor swaps. So basically he doesn't like apex because it's harder to play and he is ass
@@Sparty_ X10
8:33 “I don’t personally enjoy apex “ 3 months later dips warzone and grinds apex
Tim! You should love apex you can't take fall damage
So basically the thing he hates about apex is that "It takes too much skill to play"😑😑😑
Gun play and high TTK is literally what makes apex special, aside from mobility. It's the closest game to replicate that super high intensity and arcady BO2 feel from back in the day. The fact that fights take much longer than usual is such a fresh breath of air. Nobody likes to die in 3 shots to a stupidly OP gun.
His points on apex were very fair, that's the same way i looked at the game, but I got used to how the game plays and fell in love with it.
I think they should remove shield from death boxes and u own ur shield
@@theunknownkaze8288 I totally agree but I doubt they'll do that because everyone loves it
@@zayboii they said they encourage the armor swap so won't happen
Devs said that they won’t remove the armour swap feature because they really love it and players will also be angry
@@theunknownkaze8288 The majority of the player base are already used to it. It helps in third parties which is annoying
Okay, before watching this. I just want to say where ever he puts Apex in. I highly recommend playing it
Fortnite definitely isn’t doing it’s best right now but there’s something really special about it.
It’s the first br game I’ve ever played and was introduced to me by my childhood friend and I started on a switch lite and moved on to many other devices. I’ve tried many br games “Apex” “Pubg” “Valorant” “Rogue company” and more and by far Fortnite was the best, no question abt it
Wait a minute Tim says he doesn’t like the fact that you can armor swap in apex after getting a kill but love the fact that in fortnite you can get armor and health on kills 🧐 come now timmyus
How are those the same at all? To put simply, one requires skill, and one requires clicking a button.
One siphon kill gives you back a quarter of max health. You still can’t fight someone of equal skill level if someone were to rush you right after you received a siphon kill as opposed to picking up a brand new armor which completely fucks up rushing someone after you leave them a bullet.
yeah bro u clearly dont understand how this works, or you're just terrible and getting kills lmao
@@navapoomsathatham5128 not really once you know how to play the game you do it passively and it’s mainly used as a defensive thing if you leave someone one shot you just pursue or back off based on the situation it’s a skill gap of apex
Two complete different things.
@@navapoomsathatham5128 You have to kill someone to get an armor swap most of the time
"fOrTnItE L"
HE SAID PEAK FORTNITE PEOPLE PEAK! Back in the og days when it was fun and enjoyable
Ye. Although I started in S4, the game was still great back then.
Still is good
Tim explaining how much he loves warzone reminds me of when faze adapt was stuttering saying I love and I I love and I love it I love it and I i I love it😂😂😂😂
Ayo just clicked but already know it gonna be a banger
Still believe this?
@@yh307 yeah agree with most of them
I love warzone, I only play warzone since release but it has never been and never will be nowhere near peak fortnite. Peak fortnite was insane and the way they changed the game in so many ways including battle pass that Tim didn’t include
hot take
Blackout >>>> Warzone
took way more skill knowing how to use ground loot guns and loot attachments
only thing that sucked on console was the inventory system
You know, honestly I dont mind that Tim hates apex, but at the same time, everything he said about it was pretty much "it's harder, theres more room for play making, I'm a cod bandwagonner" hear me out. I love Tim so I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm dogging on him. But his negatives on it were literally the same as saying "I dont like making plays, I like standing still aiming and shooting." Cause that's what the higher time to kill and the shield swaps are for. Gotta work a bit harder for your kills. I dont remember fortnite having a very low ttk? I dont know, that shits kinda got me triggered a bit I'm not gonna lie. I think tim was just god awful at apex and if he got any good at it, hed feel differently. I get it, hes a boots on the ground type of guy. Well I like to have fun, I get bored if the same old gunplay same old "no ability" type shit, same old "dead before you can make a play" type shit. Maybe that's just the difference between a cod player and a halo/tf2 player. I enjoy the big differences and the high ttk gameplay and futuristic type guns. I'm done watching this video though imma skip on it. Cant listen to Tim talk shit about a game that he was never even good at.
True. Personally for me, i sucked at it, so it wasn’t my favourite, but it was a solid game
One thing I noticed was when Apex first came out Tim was streaming it a lot even after the sponsorships he was getting so he decided to play a new game even without getting payed to do it and he seemed to enjoy it until others like Ninja and a good amount of his Fortnite friends would attack him for playing. Apex to much I just think he lost his joy for the game cause his friends never really wanted to play apex as much as he did
I’m a cod player and I love apex way more than warzone. At least in apex I have a chance if I get shot first
Mad respect with H1 at S damn i miss that game!
PUBG "wasn't completed"... Years later, full release, all those things are still there. LUL
Apex should be s tier man those pluses you mentioned plus the facts that there are literally legends that have special abilities that con change each game and you can strategize around like come on
Tim not playing Minecraft Hunger games is a actual crime to humanity and thats straight facts 💯💯💯
“You played Minecraft once and thought the sun was the moon” 😂😂😂
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me
Nick, courage, Tim and Clok doing a Minecraft let’s play? Can we see it please, I’ll even buy you mc 😂
Just to put in my 2 cent's what about Unreal Tournament, Team ForTress, Quake these totally deserve an honorable mention as these started the Battle Royale Genre.
Mario 35 the unsung hero
Didnt expect to see you here patterrz
Fortnite pre-season 9 was S++ Tier man. I LOVED that game, I truly miss the pure enjoyment I got during season 3- season 6 no other game will ever match that bro
Agreed
facts man😢
You can appreciate the nostalgia in his voice while talking about fortnite
it's kind of ironic how he says he doesn't like Apex's gunplay because of all the CoD he's played because Respawn is comprised of a bunch of ex Infinity Ward Devs
I WANT TO SEE TIM PLAY MC AND I DONT CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK!!!
S- Apex Legends (Fortnite golden age lovers don't even comment)
A- Warzone(season 1-6)
B- Arma 3, Blackout
C- Fortnite(Golden age), Warzone(CW)
D- Pubg, Firestorm, Fortnite(Current), Hyperscape
I haven't played the others.
right agreed wid u
Let’s go Tim bringing in the FACTS
If we’re being honest warzone is B/C tier
Exactly. Game is definitely not s tier. Take too damn long to get through one game
Yeah, the game is just way to slow paced, the fights are just like classic cod but I would rather just play a multi-player cod match where I really don't have to worry about dying because I can always respawn and its a lot faster paced, although I still probably wouldn't even play a regular cod multi-player match because I'm not really a fan of the newer games
@@Von.NorthEnd It gets a lot of points for the Gulag, the buying system (customized loadouts), its all unique. Also, the reason it takes too long is because of the huge maps and time to kill. Makes it feel more realistic actually which is a plus for some. Apex, for example, getting shot is not nearly as impactful. You can just dip out, rearmor and get back in the fight. Although i can see why people would like that as well.
Lol yep, Warzone has so many flaws, Tim needs to stop the shilling.
@@Kwehhhhh its just his personal opinion, get over it
JANKY is the word your looking for Tim 18:09 lol
apex is the best current br and possibly best ever simply bc of its longevity, the rest of the brs are simply not good anymore, people don’t even play the main warzone one anymore