I always liked the skeleton army. Summon dozens of skeletons -> Raid a farm -> Woman in the kitchen sees what's going on -> Woman grabs her frying pan and charges at the skeleton army: "There's another one of those pesky things!!!" -> Woman dies in 1 hit.
I remember when i visited the Mine Valley after becomming a mage. Biff wants to duel me and I send him to hell with a fire rain. Unluckily i killed the other Dragon Hunters as well. xD
I'm glad that magic is a viable form of combat in this game. I was worried this was one of those RPGs where it has magic but it's not as effective as regular attacks.
Well, magic is awesome and op there.. if you have enough mana. It gives you advantage in various situation where melle fighter or ranged are in trouble... Main one I see in fighting groups.. later on mage have powerfull almost oneshot spells that affect an arrea, but fighter have to take all one by one(or using scrolls but they are rare to find and costly to buy)
@@MrZiva82 Not really. There are a few Demon Summon scrolls [I think like 6-7] so easily you can buy/find enough of them to kill all 4 dragons and also do a rune with no problem.
@@MrZuo123 I was not talking about scrolls. You can clear first map with transform into dragon snapper scroll. I was talking about spell. A really cool one given waaay too late
@@MrZiva82 I understand you. The problem is that... Well it is cool but also just OP AF. So no wonder its so late. I think it is kind of balanced that you only have couple of scrolls through game while spell at the very end. Imagine having this spell in 4th act. Too much power to handle :D
@@MrZuo123 Agreed. Also those few scrolls at least give us the pleasure of casting it at all, even for a few times. Like, sure, too early for this, but we will still make sure that you will have some fun. Man, every freaking decision made by the devs here is brilliant.
In G1 is mage much stronger than in G2 (stronger fire spells with burn effect for less mana), in chapter 2 you can learn circle 4 and gain firestorm and you needn´t anything else.
This video is just showing chapters 1 and 2. I'll probably make 2 more one for chapters 3/4 and another for 5/6 and those will show stronger spells and stronger enemies
@@MalgGaming yes please take a video of every chapter with its best way to playthrough ^^ my first time playing gothic 2 and im just lost im a magician an cant make any damage against the orcs im gonna try your tactic now ^^
@@Milka-br1xw I only started to fight orcs once i got 4th circle and learned the Lightning rune. After that it's a lot of kitting the orcs and chugging mana potions so speed potions and Hasty Herring (You get them from Samuel in the Pirate Camp) help a lot
I hope you mean rain of fire, not a firestorm, but still it has nothing to do with the mage class, you can have fire rain rune at the chapter 5th and 6th circle, so its almost end of the game, before you need to use scrolls just same as other class, so you can do fire rains in the orc camp exacly the same way as a mage, militia or mercenary
Other good mana items are : ring of magic (+5 mana), ring of astral power(+10 mana), amulet of magic (+10 mana) for a total of 25 free mana always usable
Sleep in a bed or use plants that regenerate mana until you loot a lot of potions or have enough money to buy them. My last magician playthrough I ended the game with like 300 mana potions still unused.
Yeah, but they suck ass for 2/3 of the game so you summon bunch of goblins and then run around like an idiot. "Best" thing about NOTR: none of the runes available to us by chapter 4 is powerful enough to go through the defence of dragons.
it sadly doesn't matter you can get all the OP spells in chapter 1 as a scroll swamp dragon has 2 companions, for fire and ice you can bring biff so you technically need only one summon demon, shrink monster, army of darkness etc. scroll to kill the stone dragon
I just finished a dex mage run, please, why are you doing this to me? Now I want to start another playthorugh as a pure mage. I'm guessing that it will be hell the first 3 chapters but I'll get my revenge, oh just you wait.
Well, I remember when I tried playing a mage, the game wouldn't let me acquire any good runes prior too the third chapter or something. I had to go to Minental with fire arrows and on the way back face the hooded guys that were spamming fireballs. It was possible to beat it but there was nothing enjoyable about it and felt like a massive drag. And yeah the whole game is kind of riddled with grinding. I'm not a big fan of TES but they don't have that problem. In Morrowind, if you know what you're doing you can tackle the toughest enemies on first levels
Shame that everything you will do in chapter 2 as a mage is way easier as a melee (except for Trolls ig because goblins are hard counter). Also magic sucks ass against Seekers and Stone Guardians. Mage is only truly overpowered in chapters 5 and 6 - that are like 15% of the whole game.
1. He obviously didn't waste a single LP on fighting skills so all he did was a pure mage build. First get mana to 29, then learn 5 point to 34 (after having 30 point one mana costs two LP, so you're saving some of them) do the same thing when getting to 59, 89 and 119 mana. But before that when you become mage you need to learn first level of rune magic which costs 5 points, then learn to make "summon goblin skeleton" which costs 10 points. After that buy magic staff from Gorax that gives you 20 mana when equipped. Summoning goblin costs exactly 20 mana, and there is a bug that gives you 20 mana every time you unequip and equip it, so free goblins for you. Now with a bit of effort you can kill EVERYTHING on Khorinis and get 19 lvl. Upgrade your mana capacity and try to help water mages to get to Jarkendar. When you get there one of them will teach you frozen lance spell which is better than fireball. To use it you need to have second level of rune magic which you can learn after completing first chapter. Basically whole build is increasing your mana capacity, using magic staff for free mana and goblins. In third chapter learn the freezing spell, freeze seeker make him lose almost whole hp and let him die while he's frozen (by damage over time). Using this method you can loot their spells and save a lot of LP. Do it with skeleton mage too. (Well you can do it first with a skeleton mage because he has that freezing rune so just use a scroll and you'll save another 10 points). And for the job, the best choice is Harad, because you can just make swords, equip them, and sell them. This will make swords just unequipped so you can repeat that for infinite gold. Also learn how to make mana potions you will use them a lot later. And after getting to like 124 mana points learn ancient languages, read stone tablets, drink perma mana potions and eat all small dark mushrooms (every 50 eaten gives you 5 mana). Congrats probably now you have over 400 mana and you can learn some offensive spells which suit your playstyle and become ultimate war machine. P.S. if you're new i would rather start with a one handed warrior. Gothic can be a tricky game and mage has the hardest beginning.
Playing mage is the hardest way, mage is the weakest class, the strongest build is dexterity with bow and 1h swords for dex, you can also train strenght to 34 to make melee hits harder. I am experience player so you can trust me
and dont try to play warrior class as a mage because mage has the worst armor in the end of the game, which is :100+100+50+50, while normal class have 150+150+100+50
@@stanislavp1739 "I think they don't count dex as a damage boost like strength?" Yes thats right, but dexterity 1h weapons has huge damage , 2x bigger than normal weapons, normal weapons have same damage as strenght reqirement, 100 strenght required = 100 damage, dex weapons like master sword is 60 dex= 120 damage, see the diference? to have 100 strenght you need around 25 lvl and to have 60 dex you need around 10 lvl. So even without the strenght you will hit good enough you also can train strenght to the 30-34 while its cheap
You killed bloodflies,scavenger and lurkers as a mage? oh and snappers and minecrawlers wow thats so impressive... simple orc warriors are too strong for the goblins so they has been killed by Diego who can do it for us whatever profession we choose so it has nothing to do with the mage profesion, sory but what that bullshit is about? There is no single point to tell that mage is good, and you said it is OP? have you ever played other professions? Try agility style, 1h+bow, thats what op means, but even strenght patch with 1h or 2h is much better
Dude mage in chaper 1 is a bit weak but after learning fire rain and wave of ice it's just ridiculous. You can pull all orcs in chapter 4 and kill them with two-three spells.
@@Venakis1 dude fire rain is chapter 5 and 6th circle, you can use spell of fire rain and kill whole orcs around the castle with 1 spell scroll but it has nothing to do with the mage, everyone can do that, even guildless
@@Venakis1 anyways I played whole game as the mage and if you get 6th circle you should choose wave of death instead of fire rain, its much more powerfull, damage is dealt few times so it could be 1k or 1,5k damage not only once like fire rain, but still its almost end of the game when you get 6th circle, its just right before Irdorath. From the positive side of mage I could tell that as a mage I have done Irdorath quicker than with other profesions, but before than its long and hard way
@@Venakis1 I just walk in Irdorath and spam wave of death, it just kill everything with single shoot as I said before it has 500 magical damage but strike few times in the all monsters around
@@Skorpion1991 nothing stops you from doing a dex mage with about ~60% in bow ~30% 1H and master sword now the usually hard first two chapters are a walk in the park and you can fall back on master sword or bow for easy to fight enemies you get about 300 mana from permanent bonusses so you don't have to invest heavily into mana
>Become Fire Mage
>end up being a mini necromancer anyway
At first yes. Later no.
@@sarmatapl4488 yeah. Because later you'd start spaming demons.
I bet it makes xardas really proud
that would make you warlock or smh@@user-od7hh8qg9d
No, fire rain and speed potion = mobile armageddon
I always liked the skeleton army.
Summon dozens of skeletons -> Raid a farm -> Woman in the kitchen sees what's going on -> Woman grabs her frying pan and charges at the skeleton army: "There's another one of those pesky things!!!" -> Woman dies in 1 hit.
Spawning massive armies of trasgo skeletons with the wand exploit, now that brings back memories.
That's not exploit. That's the LAW!!!
I get why Xardas liked Goblin skeleton rune 😂
I remember when i visited the Mine Valley after becomming a mage. Biff wants to duel me and I send him to hell with a fire rain. Unluckily i killed the other Dragon Hunters as well. xD
I'm glad that magic is a viable form of combat in this game. I was worried this was one of those RPGs where it has magic but it's not as effective as regular attacks.
Well, magic is awesome and op there.. if you have enough mana. It gives you advantage in various situation where melle fighter or ranged are in trouble... Main one I see in fighting groups.. later on mage have powerfull almost oneshot spells that affect an arrea, but fighter have to take all one by one(or using scrolls but they are rare to find and costly to buy)
just finished G2 as a paladin (again). Was wondering if a mage was fun, now I know :)))
The summoned demon can easily defeat a dragon 1:1. Army of darkness is as good.
The problem is you get it so late it is useless
@@MrZiva82 Not really. There are a few Demon Summon scrolls [I think like 6-7] so easily you can buy/find enough of them to kill all 4 dragons and also do a rune with no problem.
@@MrZuo123 I was not talking about scrolls. You can clear first map with transform into dragon snapper scroll. I was talking about spell. A really cool one given waaay too late
@@MrZiva82 I understand you. The problem is that... Well it is cool but also just OP AF. So no wonder its so late. I think it is kind of balanced that you only have couple of scrolls through game while spell at the very end. Imagine having this spell in 4th act. Too much power to handle :D
@@MrZuo123 Agreed. Also those few scrolls at least give us the pleasure of casting it at all, even for a few times. Like, sure, too early for this, but we will still make sure that you will have some fun. Man, every freaking decision made by the devs here is brilliant.
goblin skeletons were way too strong for tier 1 rune... good times
Cause of night of raven where they got buffed through the roof
@@Kupferdrahtful i honestly only ever played with the night of raven dlc.... never played the regular game version
Mage in G1 and 2 be like
Ch1 -2 Weak Af
Ch3-5 Still Weak
Ch6 OP As hell
In G1 is mage much stronger than in G2 (stronger fire spells with burn effect for less mana), in chapter 2 you can learn circle 4 and gain firestorm and you needn´t anything else.
Become a mage, learn how to do potions, collect all the ingredients for strenght potion, end up with a strength value around 140.
holy shit I've never realized that
army of skeletons is cool and all, but have you heard of fire storm and ork camps !
This video is just showing chapters 1 and 2. I'll probably make 2 more one for chapters 3/4 and another for 5/6 and those will show stronger spells and stronger enemies
@@MalgGaming yes please take a video of every chapter with its best way to playthrough ^^ my first time playing gothic 2 and im just lost im a magician an cant make any damage against the orcs im gonna try your tactic now ^^
@@Milka-br1xw I only started to fight orcs once i got 4th circle and learned the Lightning rune. After that it's a lot of kitting the orcs and chugging mana potions so speed potions and Hasty Herring (You get them from Samuel in the Pirate Camp) help a lot
I hope you mean rain of fire, not a firestorm, but still it has nothing to do with the mage class, you can have fire rain rune at the chapter 5th and 6th circle, so its almost end of the game, before you need to use scrolls just same as other class, so you can do fire rains in the orc camp exacly the same way as a mage, militia or mercenary
@@MalgGaming I'd love to see that. Especially when i was playing long time ago a paladin and merc.
pokaż mi swoje towary
WHAT?!?!? THERES a nostalgia bonus?!
Yes, if you bring diego to the place where he first meets you in gothic 1, to that lake a little further away from the mine.
Men of culture, we meet again
very cool video, thanks
Thanks
@@MalgGaming May I ask you where did you get a magic wand?
0:07 lol.
I did not think about it
Mages putting away their magic in Gothic be like 🤷🤷
I see what you did there
Brilliant!
Other good mana items are : ring of magic (+5 mana), ring of astral power(+10 mana), amulet of magic (+10 mana) for a total of 25 free mana always usable
best items are from add on: priest set, +40 mana if you wear the full set
I think you can get up to 300 mana from permanent bonusses too
it looks easier than it actually is! One problem is that the rune needs 20 Mana and if you use it often mana potions might get sparse
thats why you use the free mana from magic wand
Thats why you sleep in bed
Sleep in a bed or use plants that regenerate mana until you loot a lot of potions or have enough money to buy them. My last magician playthrough I ended the game with like 300 mana potions still unused.
@@Geral454 yes i figured that after a while as well, sometimes it works out nicely if there is a bed nearby ;) i should play again!
@@Geral454 Jesus... And I though I'am strict on using potions
that Xardas kick =))))
Yes but since second half of fifth chapter so it is quite late
If you play a pure mage right.
#Kill the magical golem sequence got me really kinda destroyed:D
I was hoping for the Part 2 Video 🥺
This is where the fun begins
Yeah, but they suck ass for 2/3 of the game so you summon bunch of goblins and then run around like an idiot.
"Best" thing about NOTR: none of the runes available to us by chapter 4 is powerful enough to go through the defence of dragons.
it sadly doesn't matter you can get all the OP spells in chapter 1 as a scroll
swamp dragon has 2 companions, for fire and ice you can bring biff so you technically need only one summon demon, shrink monster, army of darkness etc. scroll to kill the stone dragon
purge undead glitch makes it possible to oneshot them
I just finished a dex mage run, please, why are you doing this to me? Now I want to start another playthorugh as a pure mage. I'm guessing that it will be hell the first 3 chapters but I'll get my revenge, oh just you wait.
4:27 - I didn't know this LOL!
me neither, and i thought i knew everything about Gothic
I've killed undead dragon with 50 golems 😂😂
One after another? Because with me, if I summon two, they kill each other.
@@Geral454 yup, only demons kills themself, golems works fine, i think they.fix it
I never played mage but is fking goblin skeleton the literal first rune you get???
hehe, cool vid
may innos be praised
Perfect
Mr. Overlord, give me some evil 👹
Tried this, stops being that good after chapter 3
Well, I remember when I tried playing a mage, the game wouldn't let me acquire any good runes prior too the third chapter or something. I had to go to Minental with fire arrows and on the way back face the hooded guys that were spamming fireballs. It was possible to beat it but there was nothing enjoyable about it and felt like a massive drag.
And yeah the whole game is kind of riddled with grinding. I'm not a big fan of TES but they don't have that problem. In Morrowind, if you know what you're doing you can tackle the toughest enemies on first levels
awesome in any way
Mage is useful till the enemy comes close.. Then you are not longer able to hit him
Definitely not op
You are weak during early game, but later You are the strongest human being on the planet. Summon daemon /fire rain and You are unstoppable
dex chars are still more op
dex mage = most brokenly op build in existence
full dex is only better early on
What is title of the music?
You are genius
can you say it again after playing returning 2.0? :D
True but remember the amount of mana potions you have to chug. This isn't like Diablo 2 where you get gear that regenerates mana rapidly
I think i used up all mana potions and their crafting materials that existed in the game world in my mage run.
0:05 Smooth
doesnt work with the lhiver mod which is good ^^
Shame that everything you will do in chapter 2 as a mage is way easier as a melee (except for Trolls ig because goblins are hard counter). Also magic sucks ass against Seekers and Stone Guardians. Mage is only truly overpowered in chapters 5 and 6 - that are like 15% of the whole game.
Yes indeed, mage is OP only at the very end of the game
bravo bravissimo
Hey,nice video, can you tell me your build pls.i mean how did you spend your LP and what job did you take?i am new to Gothic 2 NOTR
1. He obviously didn't waste a single LP on fighting skills so all he did was a pure mage build. First get mana to 29, then learn 5 point to 34 (after having 30 point one mana costs two LP, so you're saving some of them) do the same thing when getting to 59, 89 and 119 mana. But before that when you become mage you need to learn first level of rune magic which costs 5 points, then learn to make "summon goblin skeleton" which costs 10 points. After that buy magic staff from Gorax that gives you 20 mana when equipped. Summoning goblin costs exactly 20 mana, and there is a bug that gives you 20 mana every time you unequip and equip it, so free goblins for you. Now with a bit of effort you can kill EVERYTHING on Khorinis and get 19 lvl. Upgrade your mana capacity and try to help water mages to get to Jarkendar. When you get there one of them will teach you frozen lance spell which is better than fireball. To use it you need to have second level of rune magic which you can learn after completing first chapter. Basically whole build is increasing your mana capacity, using magic staff for free mana and goblins. In third chapter learn the freezing spell, freeze seeker make him lose almost whole hp and let him die while he's frozen (by damage over time). Using this method you can loot their spells and save a lot of LP. Do it with skeleton mage too. (Well you can do it first with a skeleton mage because he has that freezing rune so just use a scroll and you'll save another 10 points). And for the job, the best choice is Harad, because you can just make swords, equip them, and sell them. This will make swords just unequipped so you can repeat that for infinite gold. Also learn how to make mana potions you will use them a lot later. And after getting to like 124 mana points learn ancient languages, read stone tablets, drink perma mana potions and eat all small dark mushrooms (every 50 eaten gives you 5 mana). Congrats probably now you have over 400 mana and you can learn some offensive spells which suit your playstyle and become ultimate war machine.
P.S. if you're new i would rather start with a one handed warrior. Gothic can be a tricky game and mage has the hardest beginning.
Playing mage is the hardest way, mage is the weakest class, the strongest build is dexterity with bow and 1h swords for dex, you can also train strenght to 34 to make melee hits harder. I am experience player so you can trust me
and dont try to play warrior class as a mage because mage has the worst armor in the end of the game, which is :100+100+50+50, while normal class have 150+150+100+50
@@Skorpion1991 But you still need strength for dex weapon 1h damage calculations, right? I think they don't count dex as a damage boost like strength?
@@stanislavp1739 "I think they don't count dex as a damage boost like strength?" Yes thats right, but dexterity 1h weapons has huge damage , 2x bigger than normal weapons, normal weapons have same damage as strenght reqirement, 100 strenght required = 100 damage, dex weapons like master sword is 60 dex= 120 damage, see the diference? to have 100 strenght you need around 25 lvl and to have 60 dex you need around 10 lvl. So even without the strenght you will hit good enough you also can train strenght to the 30-34 while its cheap
In all 3 gothics magic is great, in gothic 2 summoner is broken and in gothic 3 basically any magic path is broken. Germans loves magic X D
100%true xd
mówienie o gothicu w innym języku niż polski czy niemiecki to herezja
Playing this way is just boring tbh
Mage is shit. Only one handed weapon
You killed bloodflies,scavenger and lurkers as a mage? oh and snappers and minecrawlers wow thats so impressive... simple orc warriors are too strong for the goblins so they has been killed by Diego who can do it for us whatever profession we choose so it has nothing to do with the mage profesion, sory but what that bullshit is about? There is no single point to tell that mage is good, and you said it is OP? have you ever played other professions? Try agility style, 1h+bow, thats what op means, but even strenght patch with 1h or 2h is much better
Dude mage in chaper 1 is a bit weak but after learning fire rain and wave of ice it's just ridiculous. You can pull all orcs in chapter 4 and kill them with two-three spells.
@@Venakis1 dude fire rain is chapter 5 and 6th circle, you can use spell of fire rain and kill whole orcs around the castle with 1 spell scroll but it has nothing to do with the mage, everyone can do that, even guildless
@@Venakis1 anyways I played whole game as the mage and if you get 6th circle you should choose wave of death instead of fire rain, its much more powerfull, damage is dealt few times so it could be 1k or 1,5k damage not only once like fire rain, but still its almost end of the game when you get 6th circle, its just right before Irdorath. From the positive side of mage I could tell that as a mage I have done Irdorath quicker than with other profesions, but before than its long and hard way
@@Venakis1 I just walk in Irdorath and spam wave of death, it just kill everything with single shoot as I said before it has 500 magical damage but strike few times in the all monsters around
@@Skorpion1991 nothing stops you from doing a dex mage with about ~60% in bow ~30% 1H and master sword
now the usually hard first two chapters are a walk in the park and you can fall back on master sword or bow for easy to fight enemies
you get about 300 mana from permanent bonusses so you don't have to invest heavily into mana