✨Timestamps ✨ Best BFA Healers for : Mythic Raids - 1:29 Heroic Raids - 6:01 Mythic + - 8:25 New player recommendation for RAIDS - 13:44 New player recommendation for MYTHIC + - 14:37 Overall Best Healer - 16:20 💫💫💫💫💫💫💫💫💫
Resto Shaman can def PUG +20 but the hate for them as a class is real. They even get it as DPS. Kind of sad. I know because I tried to main Shaman in 8.1. Could never get into groups. :(
As of right now it does not seem we are, especially for M+. The new talent we are getting for earth shield currently has an abysmal range, same with Mana tide time (15 yards)...and that is really about it. There will be the covenant abilities but those are a mixed bag, for M+ and potentially raids Venthyr will be great, but the red chain heal is not a great ability right now, Night fae provides mobility (which we lack), the class ability is the worst for Resto. Necrolord shield is a 5 second channel which is bad, but the class ability is good for Resto. Kyrian covenant ability is meh, but Vesper totem is quite good. Otherwise we are not getting anything that would be meaningful for Resto, we will retain our weaknesses (mediocre mobility, extremely squishy, spread out fights, lack of meaningful utility in general) whereas druid will get more baseline utility, Paladin will get Glimmer as a talent. To me so far it seems like the biggest losers in SL will likely be Holy Priest (by a margin) followed by potentially MW monk and Shaman.
Very informative! I’ve actually given up on M+ with my holy priest as it just wasn’t any fun anymore. Shadow does the trick for the weekly chest. But I came here to find out if I could help my raid if I went disc. Seems like I should give it a shot, thanks!
Playing holy pally since lk, I was really depressed when I faced the changes in legion (didn't play that exp), but your guides really make me love again mi shockadin again, and yes is really fun.
I'm loving my Resto Shaman. Going to Shadowlands with him all the way. But I miss the times when you only had to change your talents and maybe a few pieces of gear from one week to another on mythic +. I don't raid anymore, just doing m+ with friends.
I only started playing Wow 2.5 months ago and started holy priest. I’m at 470 gear and 12/12 on heroic and starting Mythic raiding. However M+ are almost impossible to deal with on certain affixes, especially Grievous. HPriest also didn’t seem to get much with vendor as there’s no super important stat to stack
I swapped from Resto Druid to HPal for 8.3. Initially I really liked it, but the fact that my healing is diminished if there is nothing to hit has really been bothering me. It makes some things in M+ extremely hard for HPal. If things dont change for HPal in SL, im most likely going back to Resto Druid. Both classes are still really good. One thing not mentioned int he video is that HPal is also pretty good in PVP.
Resto druids are also very good in pvp. Especially in 2v2, q with a destro warlock with enough brainpower to press chaos bolt and youre gonna have an amazing time, running around in circles spamming stealth stuns and drinking everytime your mana drops below 95%
BFA, Both in M+ and Raids, was probably the worst expansion for healers. During the whole expansion there was no balance, Blizzard not only did nothing about, they decided to make it worse by putting corruption effects. Healers feel redundant in raids... It's the expansion which you choose your healer for their dps abilities not for their healing. So fail...
As I'm swapping to healer main in Shadowlands, I picked up druid. I like the mobility, and I'm hoping (HOPING) they buff Balance Affinity to make that more viable so I can be a ranged dps when I don't need to heal. (Because I suck at kitty.) Learning to have fun with the HoT style, very different from my Holy Priest days back in BC...
I got 70% mastery, 35% crit, 16% haste, 15% versatility. People rarely die in my groups and raids. I'm always on top, and in addition, my heals are worth of that of a 480 ilvl mistweaver, however, im only 470.
Well im not having to much trouble dealing with bursting in holy priest spec. Obv. you depend on your team a bit more. But taking the raid cd on these weeks pays of with higher bursting stacks. With enough Truth corruption and some planning you make it a 3 min cd aswell.
I went with crit. Bought 36 percent and had 12 already, so I'm at 48 percent bonus crit. I'm at 44% crit unbuffed and my hps went up 30k, no joke. Just stack crit and some vers and you're good to go.
Only just starting to learn my shaman in keys. I'm enjoying tanking too much to push past 20's tbh... but with 150%+ mastery shaman is incredibly potent at doing the hardest part of M+... getting everybodies HP up quickly. It can with the right procs take me 2 GCD's. I've found healing hasn't been the weakness of shaman, rather it's lack of damage capability/squishyness.
@@Finkelberry1871 It feels like i'm not contributing to the group just healing. Not when I see disc priests (ew) hpals and droods doing heaps and heaps of DPS.
I'm playing resto drood as my main healer and it's soooo cool to play. Ofc because I'm MM+ oriented. the toolkit is huge and u enjoy making clutch with them. As you said, the anticipation is the key and need some practice and failure but when u get it, u rox. Could u make a video about Disc Priest? I feel like never being efficient with it. The mindset is so different.
It's so frustrating to play a shaman and know that its so fun and has a huge toolkit and watch pallys come in and of course steal the show in both raid and m+ and in m+ druids are still the kings, can we get some balance pleaseeeee blizz
As a resto shaman, well I kinda acknowledge we’re shit in m+ so I’m stuck around 2500 Rio. If stars align we could do 20’s but I kinda don’t want to wait and do all dungeons in that specific week. In raids we don’t perform very well also not terrible we have our uses happy that you at least need 1 rsham. So I get my progression spot! The corruptions, well they aren’t as strong as other classes as you said. I use 4 crit, 3 vers and flash of insight and it increased my healing a bit. Our hpala, he went skyhigh with his healing he gets 2-3x extra wings on a longer boss fight. Guess Blizzard didn’t think this through. I just think BFA in general is the worst expansion ever.
I highly agree and sympathize with you. I am a fellow resto shammy, too. The hpallies are really annoying now. This is the "ineffable truth" (pun intended), unfortunately.
How can people say bfa is the worst expansion while WoD exists. Are you telling me you having a bad time makes WoD a better expansion when they released major patches for the selfie camera and barely any content at all for the expansion? Bfa is bad but its miles ahead of the disaster WoD is.
@@darkflay12345 To be honest, I had great fun in WoD. Back then, gearing to a decent level was way easier (via doing pvp), so I had many alts that I could play without having to farm endless hours on each of them. Yeah, the actual content was not great (due to its scarcity/quantity, not quality), but it was definitely miles better than the sh!tshow that BfA is.
@@splash6117 Nope not a joke. In current wow it doesn't matter what ilvl you are. Just have trinket X and X corruption Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z and Z stacked and you just win. I used to be on par with my hpala guildie before the corruptions (both equally geared) but since he has 8 IE's he does +20-30% more healing compared to me. The only joke is this 8.3 patch.
Thx for video. =) I am playing resto shaman and I hope in Shadowlands we will be better in mythic pluses. As shaman healer I get invited in 15 key only if the leader’s main is shaman and he knows that shaman is able to heal or if my friends want to close weekly key.
@@eruugor9633 u do realize this video is about bfa? And that i was actually right? And no its not the best by far in SL. Its slightly over medicore at everything.
Pala doesn't really NEED IT to be strong enough to clear content. I was ambushed by the corruption vendor and so didn't have time to buy more than 1 IT, so I'm sat on 1 IT 1 and 1 IT 2 pluss some stat corruptions and my guy is plenty fun and plenty strong. Sure, content will be EASIER when the vendor comes around BUT people shouldn't just forget how strong raw 3 glimmers and decent stats is
Great video! As a personal note, I'm so sick and tired of the holy paladin & resto druid meta in m+. Might as well delete the other healing specs in m+. I really really enjoy my resto shaman, but the power gap between these specs is so huge... it really takes the fun out of it. Moreover, as a shammy, I don't have 1 spec that I could say it can dominate in a certain context: we are not OP healers, nor are we OP DPS in either raids or m+ scenarios. It's just very sad. I really hope Shadowlands benefits shammies and priests and closes the gap between the specs. Keep up the good job!
I main resto and enhance and it just pains me that I have to press 3 buttons to make ok aoe. Meanwhile a dh pops lazer beam or blade dance and its just doing way more than me.(477 as enhc) and in the overall at the end they end up 15k above me.
I started playing a bfa this year feb and a friend made me pick Druid. I thank her so much. It’s the most fun class to play in mythic plus and raids according to me. I hated cat weaving at first but now I love it so much. Hotting the tank and going cat to just bleed everything is so fucking rewarding. The only sucky part is I have to maintain 2 sets of gear for m+. For easy healing weeks I need to farm a full dmg set. That means collecting doubles of everything. 15s is a joke now. 20s is what I’m working towards. Hopefully in a months time I’ll be moving to 23s and 24s. That is the dream. Love your content man. Keep up these videos. Love ur beard.
I want to play shaman in SL but feel like I'll be forced to go druid again xD almost blizzard. Almost. Add a good chunky st heal and an external tank CD and maybe.
I came back to retail from classic and play a monk. I read a lot of conflicting things online in terms of stats priority and honestly I’m confused. I bought some mastery corruption this week and will probably buy some Crit soon.
maining hpal, but the titan residuum rolls are just painfull: it's so rng to get glimmer on the 475 pieces, after like ~6 rolls, only got 1 glimmer piece. And while it's fun for have ineffable and wings, it really made a 2 bottom spec (crusader strike, holy shock) into a 1 bottom spec. Looking forward to shadowlands, where hpal is going to be rewamped (nerfed?), but at least it's looking like there are going to be some interesting builds with more than 2 bottoms to press.
you cant say bro that hpallies and druids are top in keys due to corruption... they have been all xpac and were last xpac and prob will be next xpac as well. Corruption has nothing to do with it
Can I just impliment my Cleric from Aion into wow? The best healing class I have ever played in any game, ever. I could tank, I could dps, I could heal, and never had to rely on anyone to respect mechanics....sigh, the good ol days. I'm such a simp for Cleric, nothing will ever compare to it's greatness.
Dont bealive in numbers. There is no fckng king in raids or myth plus dungeons. In tournaments always they played with MV monks. So piss on that. I dont bealive fckng holy paladin is king. Holy paladin is the worst. Always the worst. If u play healer dont play holy shit. Play resto druid , shamy or Monk. I didnt play priest so I dont know.
✨Timestamps ✨
Best BFA Healers for :
Mythic Raids - 1:29
Heroic Raids - 6:01
Mythic + - 8:25
New player recommendation for RAIDS - 13:44
New player recommendation for MYTHIC + - 14:37
Overall Best Healer - 16:20
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Best Raid healers : Disc/Holy Pala/Rsham
Best MM+ healers : Rdruid/Holy Pala/MW Monk
Best healer in general in PVE : Holy Pala
Love your videos man!
me: Happy with my 19 key!
madskillz: 20 is low right now
me: ow...
As a resto shaman this makes me sad. I'm still having fun though. Here's to hoping our time comes in Shadowlands
Keep on telling yourself that man. You are a shaman you know you don’t get times to shine.
Shaman is good all those best of are to take with attention.. When i look at hps its not such a big diffrence,. U can run 20+ mythic with shaman.
Resto Shaman can def PUG +20 but the hate for them as a class is real. They even get it as DPS. Kind of sad. I know because I tried to main Shaman in 8.1. Could never get into groups. :(
It wont :(
As of right now it does not seem we are, especially for M+. The new talent we are getting for earth shield currently has an abysmal range, same with Mana tide time (15 yards)...and that is really about it. There will be the covenant abilities but those are a mixed bag, for M+ and potentially raids Venthyr will be great, but the red chain heal is not a great ability right now, Night fae provides mobility (which we lack), the class ability is the worst for Resto. Necrolord shield is a 5 second channel which is bad, but the class ability is good for Resto. Kyrian covenant ability is meh, but Vesper totem is quite good.
Otherwise we are not getting anything that would be meaningful for Resto, we will retain our weaknesses (mediocre mobility, extremely squishy, spread out fights, lack of meaningful utility in general) whereas druid will get more baseline utility, Paladin will get Glimmer as a talent. To me so far it seems like the biggest losers in SL will likely be Holy Priest (by a margin) followed by potentially MW monk and Shaman.
Very informative! I’ve actually given up on M+ with my holy priest as it just wasn’t any fun anymore. Shadow does the trick for the weekly chest. But I came here to find out if I could help my raid if I went disc. Seems like I should give it a shot, thanks!
Playing resto druid since cataclysm. Will keep on enjoying this awesome class/spec.
Playing holy pally since lk, I was really depressed when I faced the changes in legion (didn't play that exp), but your guides really make me love again mi shockadin again, and yes is really fun.
I'm loving my Resto Shaman. Going to Shadowlands with him all the way. But I miss the times when you only had to change your talents and maybe a few pieces of gear from one week to another on mythic +. I don't raid anymore, just doing m+ with friends.
I only started playing Wow 2.5 months ago and started holy priest. I’m at 470 gear and 12/12 on heroic and starting Mythic raiding. However M+ are almost impossible to deal with on certain affixes, especially Grievous. HPriest also didn’t seem to get much with vendor as there’s no super important stat to stack
Going Shaman in shadowlands ofc! Dont mind being the gimped healer, when its the most fun to play.
I going monk, and shaman alt....I mained a shaman since WoD, and still do on classic
The best thing to do on a resto shaman: stack 3 pack spirit + spirit wolf + spectral recovery + stack vers + mastery and afk in bgs in ghost wolf
I love it when im being trained in 3s and im kiting and just healing without doing anything :D
I swapped from Resto Druid to HPal for 8.3. Initially I really liked it, but the fact that my healing is diminished if there is nothing to hit has really been bothering me. It makes some things in M+ extremely hard for HPal. If things dont change for HPal in SL, im most likely going back to Resto Druid. Both classes are still really good. One thing not mentioned int he video is that HPal is also pretty good in PVP.
Resto druids are also very good in pvp. Especially in 2v2, q with a destro warlock with enough brainpower to press chaos bolt and youre gonna have an amazing time, running around in circles spamming stealth stuns and drinking everytime your mana drops below 95%
BFA, Both in M+ and Raids, was probably the worst expansion for healers. During the whole expansion there was no balance, Blizzard not only did nothing about, they decided to make it worse by putting corruption effects. Healers feel redundant in raids... It's the expansion which you choose your healer for their dps abilities not for their healing. So fail...
As I'm swapping to healer main in Shadowlands, I picked up druid. I like the mobility, and I'm hoping (HOPING) they buff Balance Affinity to make that more viable so I can be a ranged dps when I don't need to heal. (Because I suck at kitty.) Learning to have fun with the HoT style, very different from my Holy Priest days back in BC...
I have playing my MW with 90% mastery and im doing really good
Healing numbers every boss in raid im top or second in healing
I got 70% mastery, 35% crit, 16% haste, 15% versatility. People rarely die in my groups and raids. I'm always on top, and in addition, my heals are worth of that of a 480 ilvl mistweaver, however, im only 470.
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0:00 - Make a Holy Paladin.
can't really argue tho :p
lmao, you nailed it 😂😂
Well im not having to much trouble dealing with bursting in holy priest spec. Obv. you depend on your team a bit more. But taking the raid cd on these weeks pays of with higher bursting stacks. With enough Truth corruption and some planning you make it a 3 min cd aswell.
I know this video is a little dated, but just wanted to say I enjoy your content.
Hi, what corruptions do you recomend for mistweaver in the upwealling and rising mist builds? Thanks, amazing content
I went with crit. Bought 36 percent and had 12 already, so I'm at 48 percent bonus crit. I'm at 44% crit unbuffed and my hps went up 30k, no joke. Just stack crit and some vers and you're good to go.
Only just starting to learn my shaman in keys. I'm enjoying tanking too much to push past 20's tbh... but with 150%+ mastery shaman is incredibly potent at doing the hardest part of M+... getting everybodies HP up quickly. It can with the right procs take me 2 GCD's.
I've found healing hasn't been the weakness of shaman, rather it's lack of damage capability/squishyness.
It bums me out that dps is a factor for healers. I miss just healing
@@Finkelberry1871 It feels like i'm not contributing to the group just healing. Not when I see disc priests (ew) hpals and droods doing heaps and heaps of DPS.
I'm playing resto drood as my main healer and it's soooo cool to play. Ofc because I'm MM+ oriented. the toolkit is huge and u enjoy making clutch with them. As you said, the anticipation is the key and need some practice and failure but when u get it, u rox.
Could u make a video about Disc Priest? I feel like never being efficient with it. The mindset is so different.
100% agreed about your statement on disc. Playing holy priest in all the content atm till i come back to disc later on lol
It's so frustrating to play a shaman and know that its so fun and has a huge toolkit and watch pallys come in and of course steal the show in both raid and m+ and in m+ druids are still the kings, can we get some balance pleaseeeee blizz
As a resto shaman, well I kinda acknowledge we’re shit in m+ so I’m stuck around 2500 Rio. If stars align we could do 20’s but I kinda don’t want to wait and do all dungeons in that specific week. In raids we don’t perform very well also not terrible we have our uses happy that you at least need 1 rsham. So I get my progression spot!
The corruptions, well they aren’t as strong as other classes as you said. I use 4 crit, 3 vers and flash of insight and it increased my healing a bit. Our hpala, he went skyhigh with his healing he gets 2-3x extra wings on a longer boss fight. Guess Blizzard didn’t think this through. I just think BFA in general is the worst expansion ever.
I highly agree and sympathize with you. I am a fellow resto shammy, too. The hpallies are really annoying now. This is the "ineffable truth" (pun intended), unfortunately.
How can people say bfa is the worst expansion while WoD exists. Are you telling me you having a bad time makes WoD a better expansion when they released major patches for the selfie camera and barely any content at all for the expansion? Bfa is bad but its miles ahead of the disaster WoD is.
is this a joke?
@@darkflay12345 To be honest, I had great fun in WoD. Back then, gearing to a decent level was way easier (via doing pvp), so I had many alts that I could play without having to farm endless hours on each of them. Yeah, the actual content was not great (due to its scarcity/quantity, not quality), but it was definitely miles better than the sh!tshow that BfA is.
@@splash6117 Nope not a joke. In current wow it doesn't matter what ilvl you are. Just have trinket X and X corruption Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z,Z and Z stacked and you just win.
I used to be on par with my hpala guildie before the corruptions (both equally geared) but since he has 8 IE's he does +20-30% more healing compared to me. The only joke is this 8.3 patch.
What happens to holy paladin in SL? No more glimmer and ineffable truths?
Thx for video. =)
I am playing resto shaman and I hope in Shadowlands we will be better in mythic pluses. As shaman healer I get invited in 15 key only if the leader’s main is shaman and he knows that shaman is able to heal or if my friends want to close weekly key.
we wont, we actually might perform worse the way things look at the moment
@@k4rczewski Resto shaman in shadowlands is by far the best
@@eruugor9633 u do realize this video is about bfa? And that i was actually right? And no its not the best by far in SL. Its slightly over medicore at everything.
Pala doesn't really NEED IT to be strong enough to clear content. I was ambushed by the corruption vendor and so didn't have time to buy more than 1 IT, so I'm sat on 1 IT 1 and 1 IT 2 pluss some stat corruptions and my guy is plenty fun and plenty strong. Sure, content will be EASIER when the vendor comes around BUT people shouldn't just forget how strong raw 3 glimmers and decent stats is
Great video! As a personal note, I'm so sick and tired of the holy paladin & resto druid meta in m+. Might as well delete the other healing specs in m+. I really really enjoy my resto shaman, but the power gap between these specs is so huge... it really takes the fun out of it. Moreover, as a shammy, I don't have 1 spec that I could say it can dominate in a certain context: we are not OP healers, nor are we OP DPS in either raids or m+ scenarios. It's just very sad. I really hope Shadowlands benefits shammies and priests and closes the gap between the specs. Keep up the good job!
Welcome to playing the shaman class over all!
I main resto and enhance and it just pains me that I have to press 3 buttons to make ok aoe. Meanwhile a dh pops lazer beam or blade dance and its just doing way more than me.(477 as enhc) and in the overall at the end they end up 15k above me.
I started playing a bfa this year feb and a friend made me pick Druid. I thank her so much. It’s the most fun class to play in mythic plus and raids according to me. I hated cat weaving at first but now I love it so much. Hotting the tank and going cat to just bleed everything is so fucking rewarding. The only sucky part is I have to maintain 2 sets of gear for m+. For easy healing weeks I need to farm a full dmg set. That means collecting doubles of everything. 15s is a joke now. 20s is what I’m working towards. Hopefully in a months time I’ll be moving to 23s and 24s. That is the dream. Love your content man. Keep up these videos. Love ur beard.
I just hit 120 with my resto Druid, do you have any macros or week auras etc you recommend?
@@SirenRyan Just get growls weakaura package.
What is the addon for party frames and raid frames? Can you give me your profile
I want to play shaman in SL but feel like I'll be forced to go druid again xD almost blizzard. Almost. Add a good chunky st heal and an external tank CD and maybe.
I came back to retail from classic and play a monk. I read a lot of conflicting things online in terms of stats priority and honestly I’m confused. I bought some mastery corruption this week and will probably buy some Crit soon.
MDI = MW, run around yeah oh god so good
Only healer I've ever used are druids lol
"I feel resto shamans and mistweaver monks will catch up in a bit" and here I thought this was just a gaming video not gaming AND humor!
You're very funny. I'm only sitting here for your class' dependancy on corruptions to be the reason of its nerf.
Imagine your class being dependant on rng factors such as corruptions to be effective.
Bye bye skill.
maining hpal, but the titan residuum rolls are just painfull: it's so rng to get glimmer on the 475 pieces, after like ~6 rolls, only got 1 glimmer piece. And while it's fun for have ineffable and wings, it really made a 2 bottom spec (crusader strike, holy shock) into a 1 bottom spec. Looking forward to shadowlands, where hpal is going to be rewamped (nerfed?), but at least it's looking like there are going to be some interesting builds with more than 2 bottoms to press.
I highly agree with you.
you cant say bro that hpallies and druids are top in keys due to corruption... they have been all xpac and were last xpac and prob will be next xpac as well. Corruption has nothing to do with it
Truu. Corruptions are just broken in general and just make the most “op” specs, shine even more.
If u play glimmer paladin reactive then u lose on hps.
Can I just impliment my Cleric from Aion into wow? The best healing class I have ever played in any game, ever. I could tank, I could dps, I could heal, and never had to rely on anyone to respect mechanics....sigh, the good ol days.
I'm such a simp for Cleric, nothing will ever compare to it's greatness.
Dont bealive in numbers. There is no fckng king in raids or myth plus dungeons. In tournaments always they played with MV monks. So piss on that. I dont bealive fckng holy paladin is king. Holy paladin is the worst. Always the worst. If u play healer dont play holy shit. Play resto druid , shamy or Monk. I didnt play priest so I dont know.
They gave up on monk after mists of pandaria. A true waste to play one