I remember when I was 15. Did I always make the best decisions ? probably not, but, I absolutely knew right from wrong and killing your parents????? she sure understood how evil that was
When I was 6 I stood over my abusive father’s bed with a knife as he slept. At 6 I contemplated everything, knew that I would likely go to a psych ward, after investigation sibling might wind up in foster, he might wake up and kill me etc etc. ultimately I went back to bed. I do not agree with the assertion kids don’t know what they r doing.
Honestly, you sound like a very mature six-year-old. I could imagine a six-year-old doing the exact opposite of what you did if they were an abusive family. And to be honest, while I would say that they should be in a psych ward it wouldn’t be to punish them. It would be so they could heal from all of the trauma they dealt with. No six-year-old killed somebody unless it’s for a very good reason.
It should be noted that the state prosecutors did take her age into account in offering her what most consider a very generous plea deal. If she pleaded guilty to the murder charge, the other two charges would be dropped, and she would get 40 years with the possibility of parole. She (or her attorneys) rejected the deal, and she ended up getting two life sentences plus 10 years and without the possibility of parole. Not taking the deal proved to be a complete disaster.
That’s a pretty important point and it should have been mentioned. There’s no way a 15 year old could make an informed decision about a plea deal like that. So who made the decision?
The reason people ask for trials over taking deals like this is for the ability to appeal. You can’t appeal the sentence if you plead guilty, but you can appeal the sentence if you’re found guilty in a trial. Whether or not that was ideal here is another thing for sure.
@@nuancolar7304 oh I see. Yea then she would have taken the deal. When you take into consideration the good behavior time that ,40 years would be 20 years actually served which means she'll be out when she's 35... On parole.. which is fair.
Sure i agree fortunately for the public at large there's only one person she has this social relation/dynamic with, and that's her mom and she is dead.
@@ClamChowder95 tons of individual stories, but the ones that always stuck out were ones like the 15 year old who did the hard r to both his mother and sister and then shot em both. They kept him segregated from the rest of us because everyone wanted him.
@@TheNinnyfee exactly - her Mother was very, very controlling!! This was the final straw, as trivial as it was, she finally snapped. At 15 she should be given an opportunity of parole.
She was cold & calculating. Shot her mother twice in the face then one under her chin. That's brutal Then trying to kill her stepfather. She's a frightening individual. Don't care how old she is. Rip to her mom.🙏🪽🕊️✌️🌻🌻
Exactly, to get shot like that is some evil shit. At that point it doesn't matter if she's 15 or 82, I feel better knowing she's locked up. People like her and Susan Smith deserve to never get out.
her mom was an evil sh*tbag so... not really surprising she raised another evil sh*tbag. I tried to suicide myself when I was teen. In the hospital I got to meet a lot of the other teen patient's parents when they came to visit their kids. I didn't meet a SINGLE parent who wasn't scary AF like mafia attitude, or abusive in some major way (I don't mean not letting their kids smoke weed haha I mean ACTUAL abuse) -- I would bet EVERY DOLLAR I HAVE that this girl was being abused majorly by her parents. NOT in the way that she claims -- not allowing weed isn't abuse lmao -- but in other ways that are too painful for her to admit publicly. Don't get me wrong. I have no issues with this girl getting life in prison or at least a very long sentence. Murder isn't how you solve abuse. But as someone who has WAY more experience with kids who act out like THIS to this degree??? There is NO WAY, just not possible her parents were good people who didn't have this coming. Did they deserve to die? eh nobody really deserves to die. But if they were good parents, this would not have ever happened. I don't feel THAT bad for them. Even though they shouldn't have been murdered.
@@Kylefassbinderful The moron of a stepfather should get locked up too. He left a LOADED GUN under a mattress where his stepdaughter, who he knew was struggling with mental health issues had EASY, EASY access to it. No excuse for what she did at all, but the father was so unbelievably negligent. He might as well have laid the loaded gun on the kitchen table.
@Oldschoolnana she is not. The message is to talk to you kids, not at them, and if you are going to exercise your 2nd amendment right, do so with responsibility. Ik I wouldn't have convicted her. One testimony confirmed she had mental issues and was on medication, then the mom had to know about her issues, 3) the mom and the stepfather could afford the money to get survalence and all the cost to gey a gun, but not spend $70 on a gun safe. Question everything is directly at Carly, killing her mom what if Carly was suicidal. And found the gun and shot herself. Your telling me the parents would not be facing charges of child neglect, child endangering,
I was working part-time and helping raise my baby brother at 14. I wasn’t doing well in school and had severe emotional problems, I was bullied by my parents and at school, sometimes even teachers made fun of me. I only ever hurt myself to cope with it, hurting others never occurred to me. Life without parole is absolutely appropriate here.
She did this with premeditation, and she didn’t have remorse until she got caught. Actions have consequences. The person she killed was her own mother. I don’t feel bad for her.
Exactly. I always thought a criminal's sentence is supposed to serve as an appropriate "punishment" or consequence to their actions. That's why I've always held the opinion that most other factors are kind of irrelevant. I even feel that way for people that are deemed insane because they still committed the act and need to serve the appropriate punishment that correlates with that. I can understand and even emphasize that mental illness can play a part in a person's level of awareness, judgment and decision making. Just like I can empathize that a child, teen or even young adult doesn't have a fully developed brain and their thought process won't be the same as a 25+ year old. BUT at the end of the day, if there is undeniable evidence that points to them being responsible for the crime, they should serve the appropriate sentence. I know people might find my opinion on this totally wrong or disagree, which is totally fine, but that's how I've always thought about it.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 ok, lets play the other side. If her reaction to getting in trouble for something she shouldn't be doing at her age is so extreme can she be rehabilitated. I watched the whole trial and she didn't show any remorse at all She was even offered a plea where she would have gotten out in the future and wouldn't take it
@@SweetTooth8989In Scandinavia, the foremost aim by sending criminals to prison is not to punish but to rehabilitate them to become contributing members of society. In Finland, she would serve the maximum of 4 years. While imprisoned, she would attend school, be constantly participating in psychological support groups etc. After all, she is still a child. Besides, it is cheaper to provide excellent care and rehabilitation programs for 4 years, than keep paying the $8,000 per month for the next 60 years to prison services.
@@cfawcett9870 - There are adults that don’t take plea deals all day long in this country, that means nothing in the scheme of things. She is 15 years old - do you think she can wrap her head around the idea of 40 years in prison with the “possibility” of parole in 20 years as a plea deal if grown adults can’t even weigh that against the possibility of a worse jury sentence?
I don't hear that at all. The camera barely picked up gunshots from the other room; I don't think it picked up the dying please of the mom. It sounds like the girl just sang three words of some song.
she planned it, she did it, then she bragged about it to her friends - even tried offing her stepdad. if she got off easy, i don't doubt she'd do it again. her life sentence is to protect the public from her.
@@RebeccaOre that’s true and very sad in those cases. Sorry if that’s what you’ve experienced. Most parents love their children though. I hate bad parents bc very selfish that some bring kids into this world just to validate themselves as humans then neglect or abuse their children. The poor kids didn’t ask to be born into this world to suffer.
I don't know. I love a good parole board clemency/ commutation hearings. I know Louisiana and Connecticut passed a law that minors given life get to apply for clemency after 25 years. Its an act they passed. Please don't at me saying life means life because it doesn't. I thought it did before I started watching hearings everyday. 😂 I've seen people with 30 years up for parole after 8. That act 122 give old people an out.
She has no home, she killed her family. I would wager the rest of her family will not be there for her either. She'll be on the streets if she ever sees freedom again
When I was 9 years old I got in trouble for god knows what and I said to myself that’s it I’m running away while I was sitting in timeout. You say kids have no concept of tomorrow but I sat there and thought to myself “where do I go if I run away?”and “what will I eat? I have no money.” I realized timeout really wasn’t that bad that day I just cannot imagine people fail to have that voice in them by that age
I actually was so mad when I was 8 that I made and kept money for 7 months to try to run away (like 40€ in total😅) and I had a backpack with food and drinks for 3 days plus all necessary clothes and after like 2,5h my parents found me at a friends house of whom I knew they didn't have his moms number
Exactly. I remember trying to run away from home at a very young age.. I got 1 block away and thought.. well I can't get food myself, and have no place to sleep.. and I turned right back around. This argument that kids are so abhorrently stupid that they can't think in a logical manner is terrible.
I don't believe that teenagers can't see into the future. I certainly could. I think Bruce just deals with legitimately stupid people and it skews his perception of normal teenage cognition.
If she thinks she’s old enough to use a gun and kill her parents, she’s old enough to be sentenced like an adult. No average teenager does that to their parents when they get into trouble.
no average teenager in general does this. in fact even war torn nations where kids being butchered on a regular basis doesnt behave like this. let that sink in
What about her calling her friend over to look at her mom's body, and the friend hangs out until the dad gets home??? That friend is pretty scary, too.
some female friendships can have a power dynamic especially at that age. i can see a scenario where she basically orders this other girl around and calls that friendship. cause it is very strange for her to come over and just stick around
If you're a minor and you come to someone's house and realize on the spot that they A. Are armed B. Just killed their mother C. Have informed you they plan to kill again in a short amount of time The last thing you want to do is disobey that. You're busy confronting the grief of having seen a still warm body.
Apparently Carly told her friend it was an "emergency" then when the friend got there the dead body thing came up. I can't speak for the friend but I know if I came to a friend's house and saw all that I would be absolutely terrified of what might happen to me. Sudden movements or trying to escape could make Carly see it as a "betrayal" of friendship and she might decide to kill a potential witness.
Some anxious or dependant people tend to freeze or do nothing as the panic overrides the logical right thing to do especially a kid. She was probably like battling her loyalty and the shock of what she saw.
Kids these days are little monsters. Can't control them. Gotta blame the parents. Everything does start in the home. We don't know fully how was her upbringing. That lead her to become Michael Myers. She definitely needs intensive therapy for the years to come.
Well, at 15, normal kids know you don't kill people. A normal 15 year old stays out past curfew, slams doors, tells their parents they hate them, perhaps experiment with drugs, etc. They don't kill their own mother. Psychopathy can become apparent within her age group. She could very well be on her way to a diagnosis. I get being compassionate due to her age, but we also have to be compassionate for our society. This isn't a kid with a momentary lapse in judgement and got caught stealing the car. She decided to kill her parents. She came up with a plan, even went so far as to set a trap for her step dad. That is not normal 15 year old stuff.
At least she didn't kill the dogs. For me when I hear about a murder on the news....he killed his ex wife , he killed her boyfriend, and then he killed the dog....WHY the dog!!!! 😢
We also need to think that if she dont get life then she will develop her brain already have 1 murder on account - that is not sounding like bright future with waiting on her good maded choices living betwen people. As for me mostly kids with murder on account should be never leave prisons because they not full develop brain will develop in prisone (messed up place) where kid end up because messed up action (murder). And also that would stop others sociopat kids who kill for gangs because they are yoused by crime organisations that for murder they get less than adult. Murder is murder and mostly if you are able to kill already in young age there is no place for you betwen normal people who want live their own life.
I don't know where you live but its very common in the u.s.a that a parent will give their 15 year old kid a gun and teach them how to use it. Usually its a father giving his son a gun as a birthday present.
There’s a reason people aren’t generally held responsible for serious crimes until they are older than 18 at the very least. I know way to many Americans in their 30s and older that struggle a great deal between knowing right or wrong, so acting like “your 15 now, your old enough!!” Ok than what’s the rest of americas excuse?
Carly definitely deserves life, cause she not only murder her mum but to ask her friends to come over to check on the body?!! And then try to kill her stepdad, she is sick in the head
I believe she deserves a very high sentence and strict monitoring with a stringent parole review. She’s obviously a sick young individual that hasn’t developed properly and is a risk that she’ll never develop properly. But at that age I think she deserves a chance no matter how slim to improve herself, rehabilitate and get out. Even if it’s at 50
I find it pretty disturbing that her therapist completely missed that this girl was dangerous. Her therapist was a nurse practitioner. I also can’t believe her own mother did not know something was seriously amiss. Kids don’t just pop up one day as a psychopath. She was a very good student. I guess that threw everybody off. It shouldn’t have. I bet her classmates knew more than we are hearing about.
At 15 her brain may not be fully developed, but if her basic sense of right and wrong (especially around taking someone's life) isn't developed at that point, it's unlikely her moral compass is ever going to work correctly. At 15 I knew about consequences because my parents took disciplinary corrective action when I screwed up. Unfortunately, too many parents these days are more interested in negotiating with their children and being their friend than actually being a parent.
Humans learn right from wrong at age 4. The majority of 15 year olds know this and the majority do not kill their parents. Carly simply did not care and felt it was a logical solution to having her vape-pen taken away. if she is that cold about killing her mother on such a whim for being a nussiance in her life, then attempt it on her step-dad do you honestly think she wouldn't kill again? If nothing else, being free would embolden her and cause her to feel she could get away with it, just only if she was more 'careful'.
They don’t play around in Mississippi. Anyone over the age of 13 who’s charged with murder will stand trial as an adult. Carly was 14 when she shot and killed her momma. She received a true life sentence without the opportunity for parole.
So you're an adult at 13 in Mississippi? I mean if you can pay adult consequences why don't you get adult rights? It's possible her brain wasn't developed. Did they scan her brain to find out? What did the psychiatrist say? Did they even care? I think opportunity for parole should be mandatory for someone her age.
@@lucianp2616 i agree, there should be punishment for the crime she did but after a suitably long time of punishment she should be given the opportunity to show she has changed But she should always be on licence if released as there is a good chance she will never really change
@@GreymanLeosunNo, they don’t, even if that’s their default state as Labs. Having not yet seen their behavior on the video, dogs may know something awful has happened but hope they’ve misunderstood and the tail wagging is part of their asking for reassurance, that the other humans will show them this was just another human game. People play a lot of games with dogs pretending things have disappeared, and then showing them it was just a game and their favorite toy is still okay. So it would be hard for them to process one of their humans eliminating another, and the behavior you’ve described is encouraging someone to show it was just a game. Those dogs will be grieving as reality becomes clear, sitting mournfully by the door and resuming their vigil as other people come in.
You might even have dogs, but you have never gotten to know them. I’d make a small bet you use them for hunting and they sleep outside-one or both of these…
They're golden retrievers. Maybe the most loving, docile dogs god ever put on this earth. Believe me, they feel the evil in the air, and they will mourn. I also believe they were the stepdad's dogs or she might have shot them as well. Evil knows no limits.
I was neglected and abused at 15, ran away from home, hospitalized for SI/SH. Never once did I murder my mom or try to end my mom’s boyfriend. She should’ve taken the plea deal. I have zero empathy for her.
I agree that she is too dangerous to go free at the moment and there is a good chance that a person with a brain like that will always be dangerous But at 15 your personality is not set in stone, there is still a chance that in 20 or 30 years she wont be the same person So i think that a life sentence and being considered (not automatic) for release on licence after 20 or 30 years is appropriate She will have given up the right to be considered ok to be automatically released and should need to show evidence that she is now safe to a parole board sometime in the future
What would be the alternative? There is already lots of evidence from studies that show youth offenders that commit violent acts are often psychopaths that do not show remorse and display predatory behavior. Combine that with having done 20+ years in prison and getting out with a record,no work experience, and an institutionalized mindset. Recidivism is all but guaranteed and the public should not be exposed to people like that.
To me, I think it's a decision for future society to make. Parole is never guaranteed. It is up to the board to determine whether someone is a risk to the community. My preference would be to give future society the option to determine whether future girl is safe to enter future society at some point a long way diwn the line. We don't know what the future will hold for her, her mental health, or her outlook on life. A future parole board would be in a better place to make that decision in my opinion.
In Finland, there would be two choices, max 4 years in prison with strong rehabilitation support, school, psycholigal evalutions etc. Or, if the person is mentally unstable, no prison but mental institute until cured.
Rightfully so because the way she premeditated her Mother's murder for damn vape pens and never showed any remorse is absolutely insane considering that she tried to kill the step dad as well as showing her Mother's body to a friend.
That’s not true idiot. They have life without parole TOO!!! But this monster got life without parole so she is staying for life. They asked the jury to approve life with parole and they said no, so the judge imposed life without parole
Wow, Mississippi really is a backwards place. Maybe if the kids there spent more time in school learning about figurative language and practicing counting, and less time pledging allegiance to flags and learning about the history of Noah’s Ark, they might be more capable of nuance.
The stepfather is still alive yes? I'd like to hope even if he decides not to live in that house anymore, and he makes a full recovery, he and the dogs can go on to live happily together
As a former 15 year old myself I'll have to say yes. Was I incredibly stupid and and could have accidentally made life altering decisions near this scale? Absolutely, but dam it's a scary thought to let someone who was this crazy as a child Grow up and come out of prision. How can I expect someone dumb enough to kill her parents to not grow up resenting the entire world for putting them away? Nah. Insane.
Also as a former 15 year old now a 39 year old. I'd agree, at 15 I didn't even really know what was going on. If we lowered the standards I would have been in prisoned for battery when I bearly remember but know it happened throwing my dad again a glass pane door. Murder? No. Same intentions? Honestly I don't know. I was 15.
@@professorgremlin1425 Thats pretty ironic tbh, he said "THESE IDOTS" not her specifically, which means that he meant that alot of the time teenagers always get lighter sentences than what they actually deserve....
YES, LIFE after what she did, then hummed a nice little tune while texting her Dad and waiting for him. She was 14 when this happened. 14 isn't a baby. 14 isn't a toddler. 14 is a responsible age where we know right from wrong. She was offered a deal of 40 years. but turned it down, so... *Edit to add, if you disagree about giving her life, how about setting her free and letting her live in your house. Would you do that?
Her singing was because her Mom said "help me" very faintly. She tried making it with the singing. More consciousness of knowing what you're doing. She's not dumb but clearly has mental issues.
@@alexnorth3393has nothing to do with anything. She’s already this vicious at 14, she cannot be trusted to not resort to violence at any other age when she doesn’t get her way.
Guaranteed her brain is not fully developed? Neither was mine at that age but I sure as hell knew that murder is a crime, she should absolutely get life in prison for this.
Just because she knows it is wrong doesn't necessarily mean she can understand all of the consequences. Basically all research shows that even the worst juvenile criminals have the ability to change once they get further in their development. Life without parole just means there is no need for them to chang their behaviour once they are adults.
@@JerryPlayTV Can't convince people like this. All they care about is revenge even if they've got nothing to do with the situation, even if it doesn't make logical sense. Look at this entire comment section. Look at any discussion about this kid. All just 'LOCK HER UP FOR LIFE' no questions asked. All emotion, no thought.
@@ValyriaSnow You are way too emotional, this isn't about this specific case either, but in general. There are reasons why 15 y.o. can't vote or drive a car, for the same reasons they shouldn't get life without parole.
yes but LIFE? LIFE? for freagin 15 year old , I think not ...in my country they dont even go to real prison and thats wrong aswell, they absolutely should bget hard sentences but life? no...but who am I to judge... im simply an european so commubnist for most americans , lol :D
@HK-gm8pe Not surprised a European pedo is defending the criminal. But if she criticized the gubment or said a mean word online you'd be happy to condemn her to life in prison, well, if she were a yt man you would.😊
@@HK-gm8pe She deserves life, she was calculated and took the life of the person that gave life to her. My mother took vapes from me but you don’t see me behind bars. TAKING A LIFE. She knew what she was doing, she was herself, she was a cold bloody killer and she should KNOW actions have consequences. If you were to die by the hands of your son or daughter, you wouldn’t be saying that but that’s jus my unpolitical unbiased opinion:)
You missed the mark on this one. You’re discussing her development as if she’s a neurotypical 15 year old. She is not. Her psychopathy and lack of remorse is a completely different factor than “kids these days want everything without working for it”. She enjoyed what she did, which is known as sadism. She wanted to show her friend and relish over her accomplishment. It was so strange that you spoke to the public urging them to talk to their teens, as if murdering their parents is a normal thought for them to have. You missed the mark on this one by 1,000 Miles.
She shouldn't be in the public as a matter of public safety, she's not normal, it's not just about punishing her. She would have otherwise abused and murdered other friends and family in the future.
@@csnipper524 She already committed premeditated murder and attempted murder. Then contacted a friend to come look at her mom's body. It doesn't get more hardened than that. She deserves the sentence she got. Prison won't help her??? You've got to be kidding.
@@kibblenbits prison won’t really help her. She will get worse and worse. However, it will help society. The main point is for removing people for the safety of the public. The punishment part is secondary.
If you put a 15 year old in jail for 25 years then you've got a 40 year old that has no other experience than being in jail. So no matter what you do you can't win. You might as well keep her there because she won't be able to cope.
That's a failure (Purpose) of the American prison industrial complex Keep them inside making white goods for pennies a day paid by tax payers instead of actually having a chance to rehabilitate
@@erichking9096 Reasonable people can disagree on that point. I just don't know that there's a good answer to this problem. Perhaps you have a useful suggestion?
Just to clarify here: she got life without the possibility of parole. The jury was given options of life or life with the possibility of parole on their jury form. They could have also chosen to kick sentencing over to the judge. They chose to never let her out. I dont know if I would make the same choice as a juror, but I did not see all the evidence, I only saw bits and pieces of the trial.
Would you be able to make that decision if you knew for certain she will kill again? Better yet, here are your choices - You can either choose to keep innocent people safe or allow a human being who already murdered their own mother live among us all. She murdered her own mother, what chance do you think you have if she sets her sights on you or your family?
@@badcatmadcat7694 Here is some more facts to go with your question her mother had mental health issues. When her mother was a child she tried to go for a gun that was locked up. Carlys grandmother had to fight her mother from getting to the gun, many of the people in Carlys life believed that Carlys mother had mental health issues. Carly reported hearing voices, she was suppose to taper off the medication which she did not. Carlys mother had a loaded gun her her matres why was that ? When Carlys grandmother was fighting her daughter to stop her from getting to to a gun she stated " she was not her self" yet the state did not let the grand mother get on the stand to testify. This case is not clear cut as people thing. The doctors that put her on the medication should have sent her to a physc that can evaluate her and prescribe her medication properly to level out her medication. A doctor that teach at Harvard testified, but what people don't know is her lawyers was probono and she could not get half as good as a defense as she needed.
@@badcatmadcat7694 so, that's not really what I meant by I don't know if I would make the same decision. I have a lack of information as someone not on the jury, I also have the knowledge of what the possibility of parole really means in a case like this. I have not seen all the evidence. I've seen highlights and from that, I'm not convinced that she has some psychotic break, I think she had forethought, etc. However, there was way more information given to the jury that I have not looked at. Maybe some photos of the scene or some text messages would push me toward a specific sentence. I work with children and I have a 14 year old cousin. I can't imagine any 14 year old I know doing something like this, even with bipolar disorder with psychotic episodes (which is what this defendant's expert diagnosed her with). However, life with the possibility of parole does not mean she is set free. It means she has a minimum number of years before she has parole even on the table. Then the decision to release her on parole would be in the hands of a parole board who are way more knowledgeable than I am on what factors to consider here. That would be in like 20 years though and they would have way more information about any rehabilitation completed than I do. If I had all the evidence from trial, would I want to seal life without parole, give the option of parole after however many years, or would I rather the judge make that choice. As I stand now, I would probably opt for the judge to determine sentencing. I don't want to be the one deciding on her possibility of parole, especially with the little knowledge I have right now. I also don't want her released with a not guilty by reason of insanity verdict. TLDR: I don't know enough to make a decision on sentence because I wasn't on the jury. At this moment if I were asked to decide, I would kick sentencing to the judge instead.
@@badcatmadcat7694 to answer your question directly, if I had a crystal ball and knew she would reoffend, keep her for life. But we don't know that for certain, so there is a third option to keep people safe while forcing her to get help for the next 20 some years, then evaluating her likelihood to reoffend and if it is low, putting her on strict parole to ensure she doesn't. Life isn't really so black and white though. There's nuance here that your question omits. I still want her locked up, I just don't feel confident in my ability to decide how long and under what conditions.
@@emberk.7881 Oh wow, I sincerely appreciate your thoughtful reply. I guess I'm speaking more in general in regards to sentencing a 15-year-old to life in prison without parole. I think the option should remain on the table even for a 15 year old generally speaking. Its an incredibly difficult call especially if you have a conscience and rational judgment, which you sound like you do. Thank you for your thoughts.
We didn't hear this when Aiden Faucci was charged as an adult. This is an issue now because she's a female. She needs to spend the rest of her life in prison.
@@ArchmageIlmryn I agree 100% it is a learned behavior but I think once morality and empathy become a behavior that is no longer felt but mimicked you get Bundy or Gacy, there is no learning to feel again at that point.
She knew what she was doing. This girl scored 30 on the ACT at age 13. She’ll spend the next several years earning lots of different degrees in the prison.
Psychopath with full on narcissism she though she was to perfect to get caught. She will kill again if let out shes be smarter about it as she gets older@michaelm.1947
@@michaelcorcoran8768 Scoring a 30 is a top 5% score. And scoring that at 13? Could you score that right now? I'm just mentioning the possibility that she's someone on the spectrum - kind of like a Rain Main type person. Very smart in one small area, but socially/psychologically lacking in other areas. I have no idea. Just trying to think of how the pieces fit together.
@@michaelm.1947I’m on the spectrum and most of us actually have very strong morals. Lacking social skills doesn’t make you a murderer. This girl is just a psychopath
@@michaelm.1947A Hallmark of people on the spectrum is a strong sense of justice, personal or otherwise. Now. That doesn't preclude autistic people from these things, but to go there immediately lol I don't doubt she will be diagnosed with psychopathy when she is of age. THAT is what explains it. Not being on the spectrum. Ridiculous.
@@lynnhubbard844 the question was: should a 15 year old get life in prison? Laws are there for all of us. Most people love their parents and would never even think about doing something like this. Imagine how this person would react if they were giving a speeding ticket or thrown out of a nightclub her mother took a vape off her and got killed for it. I say life in prison fits the bill or death
Nope. To have system, where 17 y.o. can't give consent because isn't an adult and then put somebody on trial as an adult at 15 - that's actually sick. You aren't old enough to give consent, but you are old enough to be tried as an adult? Absolutely not. It's either one or the other.
@@Jeremy_the_botI think they're referring to the weed and vape pens. I will say I don't know how to feel about this one, I feel there has to be something wrong either with the parenting or in her head to make such a rash and emotional decision. I feel like she needs life, but mostly to protect society from her rather than solely as a punitive punishment.
thank you Bruce for speaking, as a young parent, i wish your words would echo to my generation. thank you Bruce, hearing you speak is always refreshing.
When I was 15, I knew damn well not to commit atrocities. You definitely can be held accountable at that age if you can do something terrible like that.
@@bethanychatman9531 Here recently I've seen people 80 years old that don't understand politics. The majority of America doesn't understand politics or we probably wouldn't be in this slow but inevitable decline of our country.
This little girl is terrifying!! Sorry there’s something seriously wrong with her and the total and complete lack of empathy or conscience.. she’s broken in way I don’t think can be fixed!
I think context is very important... I don't think it's just coz of vape pens... And I don't think we have enough information to actually make a sound judgement. I hope she gets the right help she needs. Also how the hell is a 15year old getting cannabis? AND why is she seeking THC? Again, not enough actual data. It's always easy to lock someone up and throw away the key, but then are we actually doing reform in prisons or is it just for the punitive need of our dark psyche? Overall, it's just tragic. No one's a winner here.
@@auntykriestdid you watch the trial? She had an amazing up bringing no type of abuse!!!! What an ignorant thing to say learn how to take accountability.
They are not born evil. They learn how to from someone? From the Internet, from a so called friend and other family members. Or even neighbors. They didn't just learn how to shoot a gun or handle a gun. Someone taught this kid HOW.
Well, 1 out of 25 people are certainly are born with narcissistic and/or antisocial or personality disoder. Such people can't feel empathy and have a greater liklihood to become evil. Key word being 'become', because although there is a genetic part of the personality disorders, there's also the developmental part. One's environment and experiences... which can mean the difference between one becoming (for example the corrupt mayor of Dolton, or someone that drives their mother's Ford Escape through a Christmas Parade killing 6. -- In short, people are born with the potential to be evil, though how evil and in what ways being developmental, where accountability equally falls on whomever raised and influenced them.
People are born with different neurobiology. Certain neurons don’t develop or they get destroyed. “Evil” is a supernatural concept. This is a human being who just isn’t right. And sure, she belongs where she is. But she’s a human child. Not a demon.
Answer is YES! She made an adult decision, acquired the gun like an adult, aimed a gun like an adult and pulled the trigger like an adult twice. And if, God forbid she is offered parole for any bleeding heart reason, she does any of classes, turns to God and thrives and teaches in prison, has a billion people advocating for her saying she's awesome and that she's changed, just say no! She chose to kill instead of facing the consequences for her actions like an adult.
When I was 15 I tried to take my own life. I didn’t succeed obviously, but I made a good attempt. 15 year olds don’t see tomorrow. 15 year olds are very emotional.
This 15 year old deserves life in prison. It’s not a one size fits all. Each case must be dealt with individually. She knew what she did was wrong, and it was unprovoked and premeditated. It was on video. Totally cold blooded crime. After killing her mother, she called a friend to come look at her mother’s body. She tells her friend that as soon as her stepfather gets home, she will kill him. She shot him, but he survived. She didn’t cry for her victims; she cried for herself.
Yeah if you don't agree with that Bruce, take her into your home and let her live with you! 😂 That's what I thought. She's a psychopath and that's not something you "grow" out of... There's a difference
Im not so sure, Look at the case of Mary Bell, and others. She is not the only one to not commit crimes after their release. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bell
Wow, honestly didn't expect such a well thought through opinion on that topic from you. I thought you would show the tough law and order guy. I find it really refreshing to watch that and it actually gives me hope that the usa are able to go back on to the right track. Thank you! PS: This is one of the rare times i would actually love you to make a video discussing the comments you are getting.
I remember having huge arguments with my Mum - we are very alike and we used to knock heads. There are so many things you can do to vent frustration - yell! Throw things! Beat up a pillow! None of these things are pleasant but they won't get you locked up.
I think the big issue here is if tried under juvy they get out at 21. They need an in between juvy and adult sentence. Maybe Maximum sentence till 40 yrs old.
Ok question. Since she is underage and the gun was left unsecured and loaded, shouldn’t the stepdad be in trouble as well. The gun was his and should not been accessible to the kid. It’s almost like the recent school shootings that the parents are aware of their kids issues and the gun is accessible?
They could maybe go after him, but they wouldn't. The man has suffered more than enough. He was one of the victims of her crime. It'd be hard to convince a jury to find him guilty just on that basis alone.
I agree…that’s the slippery slope…if law for one and not the other is unjust…is it law or up to the prosecutor? Which I also feel unjust… I don’t want stepdad to go to jail… but the law is discriminatory… a murderer gets out in 3 years but another gets life…I just don’t get it!
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@@detritusofseattle BS He should be locked up. He KNEW she was mentally unstable struggling and he made sure to have a loaded weapon under a damn mattress. Zero sympathy for him.
Zero sympathy for a man whose own daughter shot him and killed his wife? Zero sympathy for a man whose life has been totally destroyed and who has lost everything? If you lack sympathy for him then there is something wrong with you.
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She is heavely medicated during trial and was for years. In Holland she would get TBS: she would be in an jail like institution and get all kinds of therapy for a very long time. The staf and the judge evaluate if and when she could come back in society. The worst people stay there for ever in the long stay fasility. From Holland 🇳🇱
Yeah... that's what I was thinking too... it's like most of the people here don't even factor her medication change a week prior into her behavior. Those meds really can do a number on people.
That is exactly how it should be. Instead we have a very stupid penal system that focuses on over the top punishments because we want to seem "tough on crime."
I like that holland respects human life. They may be criminals, but they’re still human beings. If you abuse and neglect them how do you expect them to be rehabilitated? And if you treat a violent criminal like that you’ve stooped to their level. That means your moral compass is spinning like a top. You’re no longer a trustworthy correction officer and should be fired.
@@detritusofseattleAnd look how well your justice system works, some of the worst crimes in the world, one of the most violent countries. It shows that being hard on crime and criminals is not working.
Studies have shown that teaching chess to grammar school kids helps them to see consequences of actions. In chess to win they have to think about what will happen after they make a move. This trains the brain to automatically think about consequences in real life.
At 15, I couldn’t stand my parents. But I also understood that I still needed them because I didn’t have money to pay rent or a mortgage. I couldn’t drive. I didn’t always make the best decisions. But I did in fact know that taking a life is wrong. A lot of 15 year olds are smarter than you give them credit for, Bruce.
I'll agree that she's young & her brain isn't fully formed yet. But she is/was old enough to know what she was doing was wrong. Otherwise she wouldn't have the gun behind her back nor send the text to her step-dad. Not to be preachy but, there is a thing called just being evil. She'll get a review after 25 years or so. She can still get out & have a life. She could still spawn a couple kids. But she deserves a long prison sentence.
@chnachi0 nope lol I still have my possession of an Oz or less even though in Oregon it's perfectly legal. Couldn't join active duty with a waiver because of it. I know friends who have felony from weed in oregon
That's crazy and super sad 😔 I read a stat that there's more people in prison for weed related charges than all violent crime combined. Those private prison owners have to fill their cages to make money off their slaves.
My son lost his father in a car accident in which he sustained a broken femur. Four days later he turned 15 and I was allowed to tell him his father hadn't survived and he took my hand and promised me that he would take care of me when I got lod age and he did and still does. He is the youngest of our sons and they are all amazing men today. The point I am trying to make is that at 15 a person and especially a female is capable of knowing about consequences for their actions.
I was a farm kid that had my own guns since I was 10. By the time I was 15 I had numerous guns. Never once did it cross my mind to shoot anyone, but, I never smoked pot and had great parents/grandparents while growing up. Maybe that is more important than lack of access to a gun. A few years ago, a pos teenager shot two Alaska Troopers in a village I lived in. The gun wasn't the problem. This kid smoked pot with his derelict dad every day since he was twelve. Messed up his noggin. Guns are not the issue Bruce.
if that child was evil the dogs wouldn't have been wagging their tails around her before the killing. the dogs reacted to the mothers fear and her lifeforce leaving her body. Dogs react to any death and if the mother knew what was coming it would have added to the dog's dismay
She should be reminded of what she did, every single day she is in prison. Every hour of every day, she should be reminded of what horrible thing she did. I believe that when people do something that terrible they need to be forced to think about it and never forget. She never deserves to be happy ever again, she is evil
I remember when I was 15. Did I always make the best decisions ? probably not, but, I absolutely knew right from wrong and killing your parents????? she sure understood how evil that was
When I was 6 I stood over my abusive father’s bed with a knife as he slept. At 6 I contemplated everything, knew that I would likely go to a psych ward, after investigation sibling might wind up in foster, he might wake up and kill me etc etc. ultimately I went back to bed. I do not agree with the assertion kids don’t know what they r doing.
Honestly, you sound like a very mature six-year-old. I could imagine a six-year-old doing the exact opposite of what you did if they were an abusive family. And to be honest, while I would say that they should be in a psych ward it wouldn’t be to punish them. It would be so they could heal from all of the trauma they dealt with. No six-year-old killed somebody unless it’s for a very good reason.
She sure did esp since she peeked in her kitchen first, placed gun behind her back, hummed loudly while her Mom cried out for help, then ran away.
@@toyyatoyliar. Nice made up story
@@David-u2d lol we all know its made up. Nobody is doing that at 6 years old xD
It should be noted that the state prosecutors did take her age into account in offering her what most consider a very generous plea deal. If she pleaded guilty to the murder charge, the other two charges would be dropped, and she would get 40 years with the possibility of parole. She (or her attorneys) rejected the deal, and she ended up getting two life sentences plus 10 years and without the possibility of parole. Not taking the deal proved to be a complete disaster.
Sometimes I don't think there should be a deal.
That’s a pretty important point and it should have been mentioned. There’s no way a 15 year old could make an informed decision about a plea deal like that. So who made the decision?
@@markadams5823
The reason people ask for trials over taking deals like this is for the ability to appeal. You can’t appeal the sentence if you plead guilty, but you can appeal the sentence if you’re found guilty in a trial. Whether or not that was ideal here is another thing for sure.
@@nuancolar7304 oh I see. Yea then she would have taken the deal. When you take into consideration the good behavior time that ,40 years would be 20 years actually served which means she'll be out when she's 35... On parole.. which is fair.
We were all 15 once, and managed to get through things that made us unhappy without murder. I think public safety should be paramount
Sure i agree fortunately for the public at large there's only one person she has this social relation/dynamic with, and that's her mom and she is dead.
What are you talking about genius? What is your suggestion? Goverment cameras inside your house?
No? They're saying life sentence for the killer...@@computeraidedyami
What have cameras inside your house got to do with keeping killers off the street ? She was found guilty
@@Wendy11.11 she was not on the street
I was locked up from the age of 14-18 and i can say with absolute confidence there are definitely some kids that should get a life sentence.
Do you care to share your story?
@@ClamChowder95 tons of individual stories, but the ones that always stuck out were ones like the 15 year old who did the hard r to both his mother and sister and then shot em both. They kept him segregated from the rest of us because everyone wanted him.
What were you locked up for?
@@Imcooked420clearly it was something serious because they’re scared to even say 😂😂
@@natk4017 🤣
Just because her brain isn't fully developed doesn't mean she's safe. that kid is twisted, she jumped straight to murder over something so trivial.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be the judge who releases her and she goes on to kill again...
I wonder about her back story and how long antisocial tendencies were visible. This doesn't just happen overnight.
@@TheNinnyfee
There was something very wrong with Carly that day and we'll never understand it but he sentence was wrong!
@@TheNinnyfee exactly - her Mother was very, very controlling!! This was the final straw, as trivial as it was, she finally snapped. At 15 she should be given an opportunity of parole.
Should have been death penalty
She was cold & calculating. Shot her mother twice in the face then one under her chin. That's brutal Then trying to kill her stepfather. She's a frightening individual. Don't care how old she is. Rip to her mom.🙏🪽🕊️✌️🌻🌻
Exactly, to get shot like that is some evil shit. At that point it doesn't matter if she's 15 or 82, I feel better knowing she's locked up. People like her and Susan Smith deserve to never get out.
her mom was an evil sh*tbag so... not really surprising she raised another evil sh*tbag. I tried to suicide myself when I was teen. In the hospital I got to meet a lot of the other teen patient's parents when they came to visit their kids. I didn't meet a SINGLE parent who wasn't scary AF like mafia attitude, or abusive in some major way (I don't mean not letting their kids smoke weed haha I mean ACTUAL abuse) -- I would bet EVERY DOLLAR I HAVE that this girl was being abused majorly by her parents. NOT in the way that she claims -- not allowing weed isn't abuse lmao -- but in other ways that are too painful for her to admit publicly.
Don't get me wrong. I have no issues with this girl getting life in prison or at least a very long sentence. Murder isn't how you solve abuse.
But as someone who has WAY more experience with kids who act out like THIS to this degree??? There is NO WAY, just not possible her parents were good people who didn't have this coming.
Did they deserve to die? eh nobody really deserves to die. But if they were good parents, this would not have ever happened. I don't feel THAT bad for them. Even though they shouldn't have been murdered.
Cold and calculating= mentally ill
@@Kylefassbinderful The moron of a stepfather should get locked up too. He left a LOADED GUN under a mattress where his stepdaughter, who he knew was struggling with mental health issues had EASY, EASY access to it. No excuse for what she did at all, but the father was so unbelievably negligent. He might as well have laid the loaded gun on the kitchen table.
@Oldschoolnana she is not. The message is to talk to you kids, not at them, and if you are going to exercise your 2nd amendment right, do so with responsibility. Ik I wouldn't have convicted her. One testimony confirmed she had mental issues and was on medication, then the mom had to know about her issues, 3) the mom and the stepfather could afford the money to get survalence and all the cost to gey a gun, but not spend $70 on a gun safe. Question everything is directly at Carly, killing her mom what if Carly was suicidal. And found the gun and shot herself. Your telling me the parents would not be facing charges of child neglect, child endangering,
For this crime? Yeah, lil psychopath needs to be locked up for life.
she should get capital punishment, sick of paying for three hots and a cot for life for murders.
@@ChickenPermissionOG im also sick of funding israel!
@@ChickenPermissionOGThe death penalty should be abolished due to the risk of someone being wrongfully convicted
@hughjass7101 Good for you. I'm sick of funding Ukraine also. Israel and Ukraine don't have shit to do with this.
@@hughjass7101what does funding Israel have to do with this video?
I was working part-time and helping raise my baby brother at 14. I wasn’t doing well in school and had severe emotional problems, I was bullied by my parents and at school, sometimes even teachers made fun of me. I only ever hurt myself to cope with it, hurting others never occurred to me. Life without parole is absolutely appropriate here.
I'm sorry things were so hard for you. I'm glad you lived through it all.
Your story kind of like mine. Glad you made it through. Just keep going.
Im so sorry you went thru that😢
She did this with premeditation, and she didn’t have remorse until she got caught. Actions have consequences. The person she killed was her own mother. I don’t feel bad for her.
Exactly
Exactly. I always thought a criminal's sentence is supposed to serve as an appropriate "punishment" or consequence to their actions.
That's why I've always held the opinion that most other factors are kind of irrelevant. I even feel that way for people that are deemed insane because they still committed the act and need to serve the appropriate punishment that correlates with that. I can understand and even emphasize that mental illness can play a part in a person's level of awareness, judgment and decision making. Just like I can empathize that a child, teen or even young adult doesn't have a fully developed brain and their thought process won't be the same as a 25+ year old. BUT at the end of the day, if there is undeniable evidence that points to them being responsible for the crime, they should serve the appropriate sentence.
I know people might find my opinion on this totally wrong or disagree, which is totally fine, but that's how I've always thought about it.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 ok, lets play the other side. If her reaction to getting in trouble for something she shouldn't be doing at her age is so extreme can she be rehabilitated. I watched the whole trial and she didn't show any remorse at all
She was even offered a plea where she would have gotten out in the future and wouldn't take it
@@SweetTooth8989In Scandinavia, the foremost aim by sending criminals to prison is not to punish but to rehabilitate them to become contributing members of society.
In Finland, she would serve the maximum of 4 years.
While imprisoned, she would attend school, be constantly participating in psychological support groups etc.
After all, she is still a child. Besides, it is cheaper to provide excellent care and rehabilitation programs for 4 years, than keep paying the $8,000 per month for the next 60 years to prison services.
@@cfawcett9870 - There are adults that don’t take plea deals all day long in this country, that means nothing in the scheme of things. She is 15 years old - do you think she can wrap her head around the idea of 40 years in prison with the “possibility” of parole in 20 years as a plea deal if grown adults can’t even weigh that against the possibility of a worse jury sentence?
She's not dead after the 3 shots. Listen carefully at 7.27 (volume up) her mum says help me... Then she sings no.. lock her up, crazy kid!!
I don't hear that at all. The camera barely picked up gunshots from the other room; I don't think it picked up the dying please of the mom. It sounds like the girl just sang three words of some song.
I turned up the volume and heard the mom say help me. Then she sang no. Omg, horrific.
I think i even heard a scream or something
@@jasonpatterson8091 the way the video is broke up doesn't make it clear here. But if you watch another one not broken up you can hear it clearer.
Omg with headphones you can clearly hear that. "Help mee..." and she goes "NooOooOoo 🎶"
she planned it, she did it, then she bragged about it to her friends - even tried offing her stepdad. if she got off easy, i don't doubt she'd do it again. her life sentence is to protect the public from her.
bingo
Michael is my spirit twin! How can you do this with the labradors around ?!?!?
oh my.
And the dogs seems so sweet 🥲
I know! poor doggos.😢
They are Golden Retrievers. Sweetest breeds. I own a Golden.
She's a murderer who didn't give a shit about her own mother. Why would she care about the dogs.
THAT LITTLE GIRL HAS NO CLUE HOW COLD THIS WORLD IS BUT WILL SOON FIND OUT. SHE DESTROYED THE ONLY PERSON TO SHIELD HER FROM IT
@@Dan-tt8sn Not always.
@@RebeccaOre that’s true and very sad in those cases. Sorry if that’s what you’ve experienced. Most parents love their children though. I hate bad parents bc very selfish that some bring kids into this world just to validate themselves as humans then neglect or abuse their children. The poor kids didn’t ask to be born into this world to suffer.
You don’t have to yell
@@jiminychristmas123 SINCE WHEN WAS A VISUAL ASPECT A VERBAL ONE? YOU HAVE YOUR SENSES CONFUSED
@@TM-173since forever grandpa, now just press caps one more time
Bruce Rivers just broke down this case!! She ain’t coming home till 2098
He know all the charges she about to face!! That self snitchin' gonna get her put away!!
Damn I'm not even sure if we're going to make it that long 😂
I don't know. I love a good parole board clemency/ commutation hearings. I know Louisiana and Connecticut passed a law that minors given life get to apply for clemency after 25 years. Its an act they passed.
Please don't at me saying life means life because it doesn't. I thought it did before I started watching hearings everyday. 😂 I've seen people with 30 years up for parole after 8. That act 122 give old people an out.
She has no home, she killed her family. I would wager the rest of her family will not be there for her either. She'll be on the streets if she ever sees freedom again
😂😂😂😂
When I was 9 years old I got in trouble for god knows what and I said to myself that’s it I’m running away while I was sitting in timeout. You say kids have no concept of tomorrow but I sat there and thought to myself “where do I go if I run away?”and “what will I eat? I have no money.” I realized timeout really wasn’t that bad that day I just cannot imagine people fail to have that voice in them by that age
Yep I just read in my room didn’t care time out was over soon enough I agree
I actually was so mad when I was 8 that I made and kept money for 7 months to try to run away (like 40€ in total😅) and I had a backpack with food and drinks for 3 days plus all necessary clothes and after like 2,5h my parents found me at a friends house of whom I knew they didn't have his moms number
Exactly. I remember trying to run away from home at a very young age.. I got 1 block away and thought.. well I can't get food myself, and have no place to sleep.. and I turned right back around.
This argument that kids are so abhorrently stupid that they can't think in a logical manner is terrible.
I don't believe that teenagers can't see into the future. I certainly could. I think Bruce just deals with legitimately stupid people and it skews his perception of normal teenage cognition.
_”Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t, it’s called the Almond Joy defense”_ 💀💀💀
How convenient
And those are only good to eat
If she thinks she’s old enough to use a gun and kill her parents, she’s old enough to be sentenced like an adult. No average teenager does that to their parents when they get into trouble.
💯 agreed. Accurate statement
no average teenager in general does this. in fact even war torn nations where kids being butchered on a regular basis doesnt behave like this. let that sink in
I mean that’s a low bar, a five-year-old could use a gun.
@@michaelsurratt1864 but do 5 year olds PURPOSELY kill their parents first being told off? Then try and kill their other parent>?
How many parents leave loaded guns around children ,he should be charged himself for what he has done, it's his fault make no mistake , he's a scumbag
What about her calling her friend over to look at her mom's body, and the friend hangs out until the dad gets home??? That friend is pretty scary, too.
some female friendships can have a power dynamic especially at that age. i can see a scenario where she basically orders this other girl around and calls that friendship. cause it is very strange for her to come over and just stick around
If you're a minor and you come to someone's house and realize on the spot that they
A. Are armed
B. Just killed their mother
C. Have informed you they plan to kill again in a short amount of time
The last thing you want to do is disobey that. You're busy confronting the grief of having seen a still warm body.
Apparently Carly told her friend it was an "emergency" then when the friend got there the dead body thing came up. I can't speak for the friend but I know if I came to a friend's house and saw all that I would be absolutely terrified of what might happen to me. Sudden movements or trying to escape could make Carly see it as a "betrayal" of friendship and she might decide to kill a potential witness.
Some anxious or dependant people tend to freeze or do nothing as the panic overrides the logical right thing to do especially a kid. She was probably like battling her loyalty and the shock of what she saw.
Kids these days are little monsters. Can't control them. Gotta blame the parents. Everything does start in the home. We don't know fully how was her upbringing. That lead her to become Michael Myers. She definitely needs intensive therapy for the years to come.
Well, at 15, normal kids know you don't kill people. A normal 15 year old stays out past curfew, slams doors, tells their parents they hate them, perhaps experiment with drugs, etc. They don't kill their own mother. Psychopathy can become apparent within her age group. She could very well be on her way to a diagnosis. I get being compassionate due to her age, but we also have to be compassionate for our society. This isn't a kid with a momentary lapse in judgement and got caught stealing the car. She decided to kill her parents. She came up with a plan, even went so far as to set a trap for her step dad. That is not normal 15 year old stuff.
Exactly, this girl is a psychopath
I know exactly what Michael meant about murdering someone in front of the dogs.
Absolutely! My boyfriend and I don't even have an argument in front of our dogs because it might cause them stress!
The dogs prob didnt like her
(Mom)
Work with domestic violence victims and the dogs also suffer emotionally and unfortunately physically too sometimes 😥
At least she didn't kill the dogs. For me when I hear about a murder on the news....he killed his ex wife , he killed her boyfriend, and then he killed the dog....WHY the dog!!!! 😢
My ex and I didn't fight in front of my house rabbit, as the rabbit stopped his feet, in alarm😢
should 15 year olds in general get life? maybe not.
should Carly get life? absolutely.
@@95mudshovel i agree. She was laughing in that courtroom acting all smug. Zero remorse.
Agreed. She’s dangerous
We also need to think that if she dont get life then she will develop her brain already have 1 murder on account - that is not sounding like bright future with waiting on her good maded choices living betwen people.
As for me mostly kids with murder on account should be never leave prisons because they not full develop brain will develop in prisone (messed up place) where kid end up because messed up action (murder).
And also that would stop others sociopat kids who kill for gangs because they are yoused by crime organisations that for murder they get less than adult.
Murder is murder and mostly if you are able to kill already in young age there is no place for you betwen normal people who want live their own life.
A child serving life is cruel and unusual punishment: if a 30-year-old kills someone, then their life sentence is less than a teen's life sentence.
you should move to a country that doesnt believe in reform. This type of commentary is a big part of the prison mentality in our countries.
She deserves this sentence. When someone is 15 they already know what is right and wrong. They also know they shouldn't be holding a gun.
I don't know where you live but its very common in the u.s.a that a parent will give their 15 year old kid a gun and teach them how to use it. Usually its a father giving his son a gun as a birthday present.
@@macm3081 it's quite irresponsible if that's a common thing. In South Africa guns are not even easy to acquire (legally or not) even for adults.
In America, kids as young as 10 shoot firearms with their parents at ranges, fields, etc
There’s a reason people aren’t generally held responsible for serious crimes until they are older than 18 at the very least. I know way to many Americans in their 30s and older that struggle a great deal between knowing right or wrong, so acting like “your 15 now, your old enough!!” Ok than what’s the rest of americas excuse?
@@kromtastic that is the most weird sounding thing I ever heard, 10 year olds here only play with toy guns that shoot water or just smoke.
Carly definitely deserves life, cause she not only murder her mum but to ask her friends to come over to check on the body?!! And then try to kill her stepdad, she is sick in the head
His, her ? Which one is it
Yeah. Who's stepdad? Someone else's or hers?
@@bmw_m4255Her step dad
@@DirtyJamesUKher step dad
I believe she deserves a very high sentence and strict monitoring with a stringent parole review. She’s obviously a sick young individual that hasn’t developed properly and is a risk that she’ll never develop properly. But at that age I think she deserves a chance no matter how slim to improve herself, rehabilitate and get out. Even if it’s at 50
I find it pretty disturbing that her therapist completely missed that this girl was dangerous. Her therapist was a nurse practitioner. I also can’t believe her own mother did not know something was seriously amiss. Kids don’t just pop up one day as a psychopath. She was a very good student. I guess that threw everybody off. It shouldn’t have. I bet her classmates knew more than we are hearing about.
At 15 her brain may not be fully developed, but if her basic sense of right and wrong (especially around taking someone's life) isn't developed at that point, it's unlikely her moral compass is ever going to work correctly. At 15 I knew about consequences because my parents took disciplinary corrective action when I screwed up. Unfortunately, too many parents these days are more interested in negotiating with their children and being their friend than actually being a parent.
THIS💯
We’re so screwed as a species with the way we’re heading
It’s completely crazy that a 15 does not know that killing your parents is WRONG. No, there is no hope for her. IMO
Great comment😊
Humans learn right from wrong at age 4. The majority of 15 year olds know this and the majority do not kill their parents.
Carly simply did not care and felt it was a logical solution to having her vape-pen taken away.
if she is that cold about killing her mother on such a whim for being a nussiance in her life, then attempt it on her step-dad do you honestly think she wouldn't kill again?
If nothing else, being free would embolden her and cause her to feel she could get away with it, just only if she was more 'careful'.
They don’t play around in Mississippi. Anyone over the age of 13 who’s charged with murder will stand trial as an adult. Carly was 14 when she shot and killed her momma. She received a true life sentence without the opportunity for parole.
Good
So you're an adult at 13 in Mississippi? I mean if you can pay adult consequences why don't you get adult rights?
It's possible her brain wasn't developed. Did they scan her brain to find out? What did the psychiatrist say? Did they even care?
I think opportunity for parole should be mandatory for someone her age.
@@lucianp2616 i agree, there should be punishment for the crime she did but after a suitably long time of punishment she should be given the opportunity to show she has changed
But she should always be on licence if released as there is a good chance she will never really change
Good
@@lucianp2616 She's a stone cold Psychopath. Even little kids understand death is permanent.
You could see how much the dogs felt the situation. Watch their tails and their body language it breaks my heart honestly.
Right.., happy go lucky & back to being clueless dogs in a few seconds lol
@@GreymanLeosunNo, they don’t, even if that’s their default state as Labs.
Having not yet seen their behavior on the video, dogs may know something awful has happened but hope they’ve misunderstood and the tail wagging is part of their asking for reassurance, that the other humans will show them this was just another human game.
People play a lot of games with dogs pretending things have disappeared, and then showing them it was just a game and their favorite toy is still okay. So it would be hard for them to process one of their humans eliminating another, and the behavior you’ve described is encouraging someone to show it was just a game.
Those dogs will be grieving as reality becomes clear, sitting mournfully by the door and resuming their vigil as other people come in.
You might even have dogs, but you have never gotten to know them. I’d make a small bet you use them for hunting and they sleep outside-one or both of these…
Me too. They definitely were showing agitation and stress.
They're golden retrievers. Maybe the most loving, docile dogs god ever put on this earth. Believe me, they feel the evil in the air, and they will mourn. I also believe they were the stepdad's dogs or she might have shot them as well. Evil knows no limits.
I was neglected and abused at 15, ran away from home, hospitalized for SI/SH. Never once did I murder my mom or try to end my mom’s boyfriend. She should’ve taken the plea deal. I have zero empathy for her.
Yes. At 15, she's too dangerous to go free. There's no reason to take chances.
Seems her parents were not so great.
Shes full on evil maybe so most people with crappy parents dont do this@mattk8810
@@mattk8810 they didn’t kill anyone though
I agree that she is too dangerous to go free at the moment and there is a good chance that a person with a brain like that will always be dangerous
But at 15 your personality is not set in stone, there is still a chance that in 20 or 30 years she wont be the same person
So i think that a life sentence and being considered (not automatic) for release on licence after 20 or 30 years is appropriate
She will have given up the right to be considered ok to be automatically released and should need to show evidence that she is now safe to a parole board sometime in the future
@@mattk8810Watch the trial she had great parents…..
What would be the alternative? There is already lots of evidence from studies that show youth offenders that commit violent acts are often psychopaths that do not show remorse and display predatory behavior. Combine that with having done 20+ years in prison and getting out with a record,no work experience, and an institutionalized mindset. Recidivism is all but guaranteed and the public should not be exposed to people like that.
Woodchipper under a nice tree. Saves the government money, feeds a tree.
To me, I think it's a decision for future society to make. Parole is never guaranteed. It is up to the board to determine whether someone is a risk to the community.
My preference would be to give future society the option to determine whether future girl is safe to enter future society at some point a long way diwn the line. We don't know what the future will hold for her, her mental health, or her outlook on life. A future parole board would be in a better place to make that decision in my opinion.
@alexander1902 Exaaaactly! you explained perfectly why they should not be given the possiibility of parole. Ever.
@@alexander1902 can you cite some of those studies?
In Finland, there would be two choices, max 4 years in prison with strong rehabilitation support, school, psycholigal evalutions etc.
Or, if the person is mentally unstable, no prison but mental institute until cured.
Bruce.. life in Mississippi is just that! It's a life sentence with no parole! It's not 30 years it's LIFE!!
Rightfully so because the way she premeditated her Mother's murder for damn vape pens and never showed any remorse is absolutely insane considering that she tried to kill the step dad as well as showing her Mother's body to a friend.
@@ZeitGeist_TVShe’s smarter then most people will ever admit,in the context of right and wrong
That’s not true idiot. They have life without parole TOO!!! But this monster got life without parole so she is staying for life. They asked the jury to approve life with parole and they said no, so the judge imposed life without parole
Ya i don't think they would have offered her 40 years if a guilty verdict from trial would mean 30.
Wow, Mississippi really is a backwards place. Maybe if the kids there spent more time in school learning about figurative language and practicing counting, and less time pledging allegiance to flags and learning about the history of Noah’s Ark, they might be more capable of nuance.
Those poor dogs … hopefully they are being cared for
Was thinking the same thing. I feel so sad for the dogs walking around confused.
I know. Those beautiful animals. I’m sure that they are traumatized. 😢
The stepfather is still alive yes? I'd like to hope even if he decides not to live in that house anymore, and he makes a full recovery, he and the dogs can go on to live happily together
I know they looked so worried and confused. It broke my heart
@@friskyunicorn21 same here
As a former 15 year old myself I'll have to say yes. Was I incredibly stupid and and could have accidentally made life altering decisions near this scale? Absolutely, but dam it's a scary thought to let someone who was this crazy as a child Grow up and come out of prision. How can I expect someone dumb enough to kill her parents to not grow up resenting the entire world for putting them away? Nah. Insane.
Excellent point! I 100% agree.
Smoking at 15 is crazy, society is in real trouble if this is becoming a trend
As a former member of the 15 year old community, I agree.
Ditto
Also as a former 15 year old now a 39 year old. I'd agree, at 15 I didn't even really know what was going on. If we lowered the standards I would have been in prisoned for battery when I bearly remember but know it happened throwing my dad again a glass pane door. Murder? No. Same intentions? Honestly I don't know. I was 15.
Yes. They know right from wrong at 15. I'm tired of these idiots getting away with criminal activity with no consequences.
I wouldn’t call this “getting away with no consequences”
Absolutely!!
So am I and now they’re trying to get a new trial claiming MH / sick of this excuse no she’s evil 👿
@@cbrreezzyy69 Indeed! Although sadly some don't read past headlines and video titles before making assertions.
@@professorgremlin1425 Thats pretty ironic tbh, he said "THESE IDOTS" not her specifically, which means that he meant that alot of the time teenagers always get lighter sentences than what they actually deserve....
This one should serve life. It's rare, but this crime deserves life.
If a 15year old does an adult crime they should get adult sentences. PERIOD
"Should we jail 15 year olds for life for murder?"
Answer: F$CK YES!!!!!!
💯
No
No. You are insane.
@@alexnorth3393nah your insane. Let's house all the psychos at Alex's house! Let me guess, you don't have one. Stfu
They should keep her locked up for a period and try to do the work of some sort of parenting that was badly managed. some day she may repent
YES, LIFE after what she did, then hummed a nice little tune while texting her Dad and waiting for him. She was 14 when this happened. 14 isn't a baby. 14 isn't a toddler. 14 is a responsible age where we know right from wrong. She was offered a deal of 40 years. but turned it down, so... *Edit to add, if you disagree about giving her life, how about setting her free and letting her live in your house. Would you do that?
You think 14 is a responsible age? 😂😂 i sure hope you don't breed. I sure as hell wasn't responsible when i was 14.
14 is a child.
Her singing was because her Mom said "help me" very faintly. She tried making it with the singing. More consciousness of knowing what you're doing. She's not dumb but clearly has mental issues.
@@alexnorth3393has nothing to do with anything. She’s already this vicious at 14, she cannot be trusted to not resort to violence at any other age when she doesn’t get her way.
Well said.......don't forget she hid the camera in the fridge afterwards
Guaranteed her brain is not fully developed? Neither was mine at that age but I sure as hell knew that murder is a crime, she should absolutely get life in prison for this.
Her brain 🧠 was probably destroyed taking BIG PHRAMA drugs
Just because she knows it is wrong doesn't necessarily mean she can understand all of the consequences. Basically all research shows that even the worst juvenile criminals have the ability to change once they get further in their development. Life without parole just means there is no need for them to chang their behaviour once they are adults.
@@JerryPlayTVstop making excuses for a demon, she put her mom down like old yeller in the backyard.
@@JerryPlayTV Can't convince people like this. All they care about is revenge even if they've got nothing to do with the situation, even if it doesn't make logical sense. Look at this entire comment section. Look at any discussion about this kid. All just 'LOCK HER UP FOR LIFE' no questions asked. All emotion, no thought.
@@ValyriaSnow You are way too emotional, this isn't about this specific case either, but in general. There are reasons why 15 y.o. can't vote or drive a car, for the same reasons they shouldn't get life without parole.
Divorce always psychologically damages children.
It's about time youth is no longer an excuse for criminal acts.
yes but LIFE? LIFE? for freagin 15 year old , I think not ...in my country they dont even go to real prison and thats wrong aswell, they absolutely should bget hard sentences but life? no...but who am I to judge... im simply an european so commubnist for most americans , lol :D
@HK-gm8pe Not surprised a European pedo is defending the criminal. But if she criticized the gubment or said a mean word online you'd be happy to condemn her to life in prison, well, if she were a yt man you would.😊
@@HK-gm8pe She deserves life, she was calculated and took the life of the person that gave life to her. My mother took vapes from me but you don’t see me behind bars. TAKING A LIFE. She knew what she was doing, she was herself, she was a cold bloody killer and she should KNOW actions have consequences. If you were to die by the hands of your son or daughter, you wouldn’t be saying that but that’s jus my unpolitical unbiased opinion:)
@@HK-gm8peyes. No 15 year old is going out and plotting to commit murder.
The first thing that sprung to mind reading this comment was a 3 year old on probation for stealing candy.
She knew. Do the time, Missy
👍 plus she did get a lighter sentence since she was under 18, she avoided death row.
Hey bruce do a vid on the sheriff who shot the judge in Kentucky .
Judge apparently was a diddler.
This!!!
@@erikjanthes citation needed
There’s not enough info on it yet. Once the charges are made public he can do it then.
@@lillibitjohnson7293 Charges are made public this was 10 days ago when it happened
You missed the mark on this one. You’re discussing her development as if she’s a neurotypical 15 year old. She is not. Her psychopathy and lack of remorse is a completely different factor than “kids these days want everything without working for it”. She enjoyed what she did, which is known as sadism. She wanted to show her friend and relish over her accomplishment.
It was so strange that you spoke to the public urging them to talk to their teens, as if murdering their parents is a normal thought for them to have. You missed the mark on this one by 1,000 Miles.
People should feel bad for her and her mother and family, rather than acting like she is some sort of inhuman entity
She shouldn't be in the public as a matter of public safety, she's not normal, it's not just about punishing her. She would have otherwise abused and murdered other friends and family in the future.
I agree, the problem is regular prison won't help her. Instead, she will become a hardened convict.
@@csnipper524 She already committed premeditated murder and attempted murder. Then contacted a friend to come look at her mom's body. It doesn't get more hardened than that. She deserves the sentence she got. Prison won't help her??? You've got to be kidding.
@@csnipper524we can’t save everyone….. but we can protect people from her.
That’s what prisons are for.
@@kibblenbits prison won’t really help her. She will get worse and worse. However, it will help society. The main point is for removing people for the safety of the public. The punishment part is secondary.
If you put a 15 year old in jail for 25 years then you've got a 40 year old that has no other experience than being in jail. So no matter what you do you can't win. You might as well keep her there because she won't be able to cope.
That's a failure (Purpose) of the American prison industrial complex
Keep them inside making white goods for pennies a day paid by tax payers instead of actually having a chance to rehabilitate
That is stupidest thing I’ve ever heard
If only our penal system focused on rehabilitation instead of retribution.
@@hootilyhootas in Denmark. Recidivism still 70%
@@erichking9096 Reasonable people can disagree on that point. I just don't know that there's a good answer to this problem.
Perhaps you have a useful suggestion?
Just to clarify here: she got life without the possibility of parole. The jury was given options of life or life with the possibility of parole on their jury form. They could have also chosen to kick sentencing over to the judge. They chose to never let her out. I dont know if I would make the same choice as a juror, but I did not see all the evidence, I only saw bits and pieces of the trial.
Would you be able to make that decision if you knew for certain she will kill again? Better yet, here are your choices - You can either choose to keep innocent people safe or allow a human being who already murdered their own mother live among us all. She murdered her own mother, what chance do you think you have if she sets her sights on you or your family?
@@badcatmadcat7694 Here is some more facts to go with your question her mother had mental health issues. When her mother was a child she tried to go for a gun that was locked up. Carlys grandmother had to fight her mother from getting to the gun, many of the people in Carlys life believed that Carlys mother had mental health issues. Carly reported hearing voices, she was suppose to taper off the medication which she did not. Carlys mother had a loaded gun her her matres why was that ? When Carlys grandmother was fighting her daughter to stop her from getting to to a gun she stated " she was not her self" yet the state did not let the grand mother get on the stand to testify. This case is not clear cut as people thing. The doctors that put her on the medication should have sent her to a physc that can evaluate her and prescribe her medication properly to level out her medication. A doctor that teach at Harvard testified, but what people don't know is her lawyers was probono and she could not get half as good as a defense as she needed.
@@badcatmadcat7694 so, that's not really what I meant by I don't know if I would make the same decision. I have a lack of information as someone not on the jury, I also have the knowledge of what the possibility of parole really means in a case like this.
I have not seen all the evidence. I've seen highlights and from that, I'm not convinced that she has some psychotic break, I think she had forethought, etc. However, there was way more information given to the jury that I have not looked at. Maybe some photos of the scene or some text messages would push me toward a specific sentence.
I work with children and I have a 14 year old cousin. I can't imagine any 14 year old I know doing something like this, even with bipolar disorder with psychotic episodes (which is what this defendant's expert diagnosed her with).
However, life with the possibility of parole does not mean she is set free. It means she has a minimum number of years before she has parole even on the table. Then the decision to release her on parole would be in the hands of a parole board who are way more knowledgeable than I am on what factors to consider here. That would be in like 20 years though and they would have way more information about any rehabilitation completed than I do.
If I had all the evidence from trial, would I want to seal life without parole, give the option of parole after however many years, or would I rather the judge make that choice. As I stand now, I would probably opt for the judge to determine sentencing. I don't want to be the one deciding on her possibility of parole, especially with the little knowledge I have right now. I also don't want her released with a not guilty by reason of insanity verdict.
TLDR: I don't know enough to make a decision on sentence because I wasn't on the jury. At this moment if I were asked to decide, I would kick sentencing to the judge instead.
@@badcatmadcat7694 to answer your question directly, if I had a crystal ball and knew she would reoffend, keep her for life. But we don't know that for certain, so there is a third option to keep people safe while forcing her to get help for the next 20 some years, then evaluating her likelihood to reoffend and if it is low, putting her on strict parole to ensure she doesn't. Life isn't really so black and white though. There's nuance here that your question omits. I still want her locked up, I just don't feel confident in my ability to decide how long and under what conditions.
@@emberk.7881 Oh wow, I sincerely appreciate your thoughtful reply. I guess I'm speaking more in general in regards to sentencing a 15-year-old to life in prison without parole. I think the option should remain on the table even for a 15 year old generally speaking. Its an incredibly difficult call especially if you have a conscience and rational judgment, which you sound like you do. Thank you for your thoughts.
I'm sorry you skipped the worse part. She was laughing during court until they decided she should be sentenced as an adult
You don’t outgrow evil.
you just get into politics
You absolutely do though. Morality and most of empathy is a learned behavior, only the most basic of empathy is instinctual.
We didn't hear this when Aiden Faucci was charged as an adult. This is an issue now because she's a female. She needs to spend the rest of her life in prison.
Yes, you actually do.
@@ArchmageIlmryn I agree 100% it is a learned behavior but I think once morality and empathy become a behavior that is no longer felt but mimicked you get Bundy or Gacy, there is no learning to feel again at that point.
I don't think this girl is all there.
All more the reason to throw away the keys
Evil and stupid, winning combo.
She looks a lot younger than 15 . She looks 11 to me !
@@zacharythompson9839sound like my ex
She's an above average student - highly intelligent ... psychopath!
It's not justice to the rest of us to let those who h ave nO empathy be out here with us.
She knew what she was doing. This girl scored 30 on the ACT at age 13.
She’ll spend the next several years earning lots of different degrees in the prison.
"She knew what she was doing."
Perhaps the opposite? Super book-smart type, but possibly socially/psychologically lagging behind.
Psychopath with full on narcissism she though she was to perfect to get caught. She will kill again if let out shes be smarter about it as she gets older@michaelm.1947
@@michaelcorcoran8768 Scoring a 30 is a top 5% score. And scoring that at 13? Could you score that right now? I'm just mentioning the possibility that she's someone on the spectrum - kind of like a Rain Main type person. Very smart in one small area, but socially/psychologically lacking in other areas. I have no idea. Just trying to think of how the pieces fit together.
@@michaelm.1947I’m on the spectrum and most of us actually have very strong morals. Lacking social skills doesn’t make you a murderer. This girl is just a psychopath
@@michaelm.1947A Hallmark of people on the spectrum is a strong sense of justice, personal or otherwise.
Now. That doesn't preclude autistic people from these things, but to go there immediately lol
I don't doubt she will be diagnosed with psychopathy when she is of age.
THAT is what explains it. Not being on the spectrum.
Ridiculous.
If you would kill your mother and father the people you love the most what would you do to people you don't even know?
love?
@@lynnhubbard844 the question was: should a 15 year old get life in prison?
Laws are there for all of us.
Most people love their parents and would never even think about doing something like this.
Imagine how this person would react if they were giving a speeding ticket or thrown out of a nightclub her mother took a vape off her and got killed for it.
I say life in prison fits the bill or death
She made an abundance of adult decisions leading up to this incident.
Pretty sure most adults don't make these decisions.
I mean, she isn't an adult so she didn't make adult decisions, doesn't change that she's a monster.
Not adult. Monstrous.
Nope. To have system, where 17 y.o. can't give consent because isn't an adult and then put somebody on trial as an adult at 15 - that's actually sick. You aren't old enough to give consent, but you are old enough to be tried as an adult? Absolutely not. It's either one or the other.
@@Jeremy_the_botI think they're referring to the weed and vape pens. I will say I don't know how to feel about this one, I feel there has to be something wrong either with the parenting or in her head to make such a rash and emotional decision. I feel like she needs life, but mostly to protect society from her rather than solely as a punitive punishment.
thank you Bruce for speaking, as a young parent, i wish your words would echo to my generation. thank you Bruce, hearing you speak is always refreshing.
The worst part of the video for me is the dogs... they seem curious and scared.. still craving attention. What a horrible child.
Just wondering what’s going on and why their owner’s dead on the floor… 😪 poor puppers
Breaks my heart too. I hope they are loved and well cared for.
dogs know something is up. they can probably sense the mental distress aka demons present.
@@1cjs4u no such thing demons even dogs know this; just psychopath 15-year-old parent murders 😅
I agree. I think they knew something was wrong, but needed reassurance. Poor dogs. Poor mom and stepdad.
This happened in Mississippi. I work at the school her mother taught at. This was so heartbreaking. This blew our freaking minds.
So sad I bet it was a shock stay strong this kid is gone for good
When I was 15, I knew damn well not to commit atrocities.
You definitely can be held accountable at that age if you can do something terrible like that.
Same here 💯💯
I thought they only gave life without parole to teenagers trying to smuggle authentic haggis into America...
Fifteen knows right from wrong. Fifteen doesn’t understand politics. For that matter, neither does eighteen.
For the most part.
@@bethanychatman9531 Here recently I've seen people 80 years old that don't understand politics. The majority of America doesn't understand politics or we probably wouldn't be in this slow but inevitable decline of our country.
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How she going to pay 15k
Can 15yo's consent then? You are obv gonna answer "no" so please explain your double-standard. Also, she was 14 not 15.
Short answer, yes. Murder is murder and should be dealt with harshly.
Absolutey. She already got a lighter sentence, as an adult would - hopefully - end up on death row.
This little girl is terrifying!! Sorry there’s something seriously wrong with her and the total and complete lack of empathy or conscience.. she’s broken in way I don’t think can be fixed!
I think context is very important... I don't think it's just coz of vape pens... And I don't think we have enough information to actually make a sound judgement. I hope she gets the right help she needs. Also how the hell is a 15year old getting cannabis? AND why is she seeking THC? Again, not enough actual data. It's always easy to lock someone up and throw away the key, but then are we actually doing reform in prisons or is it just for the punitive need of our dark psyche? Overall, it's just tragic. No one's a winner here.
Terrible parenting produces terrible children.
Look up serial killer Mary Bell. She's living in society free.
@@auntykriestdid you watch the trial? She had an amazing up bringing no type of abuse!!!!
What an ignorant thing to say learn how to take accountability.
@@auntykriest Ignorant comment.
I love the relationship you have with your son. The realness you speak. 💯
This case is so disturbing! To think a girl her age can so coldly murder someone.
And her own mother
and her mother of all people!
Boys commit murder all the time and people aren't disturbed, but when a girl does it, it's different?
Anyone of any age and any gender can do...
Anything.
What if she was adopted damn
The Step- Dad Mouthing, I Love You In Court Gives Me The Creeps.
Yep, creeper alert, imo!
Step dad was finna clap them cheeks for sure
Thank God you guys aren't lawyers.
I thought he's a bit creepy too.
Someone else helped this along, step-dad or social media influence.
Yeah, stepdad is sus for sure!
Those poor dogs knew what happened. So sad.
I know 😣😣
Agree
True, I feel so bad for those sweet doggies, looking all confused…😢
What about the poor mother who lost her life.
@@Hap_Shaughessy obviously it’s sad about the mom that’s the obvious thing here. She’s just pointing out the impact that it had on the pets too.
Bruce you are an honorable man. Your a good example for parents and loving your kids. I wish you and your family blessing
This makes me believe that ppl are definitely born evil
They are not born evil.
They learn how to from someone?
From the Internet, from a so called friend and other family members. Or even neighbors.
They didn't just learn how to shoot a gun or handle a gun.
Someone taught this kid HOW.
Well, 1 out of 25 people are certainly are born with narcissistic and/or antisocial or personality disoder. Such people can't feel empathy and have a greater liklihood to become evil. Key word being 'become', because although there is a genetic part of the personality disorders, there's also the developmental part. One's environment and experiences... which can mean the difference between one becoming (for example the corrupt mayor of Dolton, or someone that drives their mother's Ford Escape through a Christmas Parade killing 6. -- In short, people are born with the potential to be evil, though how evil and in what ways being developmental, where accountability equally falls on whomever raised and influenced them.
She’s 15 not 15 months
People are born with different neurobiology. Certain neurons don’t develop or they get destroyed. “Evil” is a supernatural concept.
This is a human being who just isn’t right.
And sure, she belongs where she is.
But she’s a human child. Not a demon.
😂 @@lustrazor44
Answer is YES! She made an adult decision, acquired the gun like an adult, aimed a gun like an adult and pulled the trigger like an adult twice. And if, God forbid she is offered parole for any bleeding heart reason, she does any of classes, turns to God and thrives and teaches in prison, has a billion people advocating for her saying she's awesome and that she's changed, just say no! She chose to kill instead of facing the consequences for her actions like an adult.
Didn’t she reject a 40 yr plea deal tho?🤔
Yes, where she would have gotten out in 20.
She did reject the plea. She probably thought she would get away with it.
Ego gets them everytime
good thing she did reject it.
Came for the court stuff, stayed for the comedy standup. 🤣 GENIUS of Michael to suggest that Bruce watch the Dave Chapelle clip!
When I was 15 I tried to take my own life. I didn’t succeed obviously, but I made a good attempt. 15 year olds don’t see tomorrow. 15 year olds are very emotional.
So u saying because of temporary problems with her mother
It okay for her to kill her? Bc according to you 15 year old are emotionally 💀
This 15 year old deserves life in prison. It’s not a one size fits all. Each case must be dealt with individually. She knew what she did was wrong, and it was unprovoked and premeditated. It was on video. Totally cold blooded crime. After killing her mother, she called a friend to come look at her mother’s body. She tells her friend that as soon as her stepfather gets home, she will kill him. She shot him, but he survived. She didn’t cry for her victims; she cried for herself.
She probably thought she'd be sent to juvie and out at 18, if caught.
Yeah if you don't agree with that Bruce, take her into your home and let her live with you! 😂 That's what I thought. She's a psychopath and that's not something you "grow" out of... There's a difference
Good point.
Im not so sure, Look at the case of Mary Bell, and others. She is not the only one to not commit crimes after their release. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bell
Its for content
Bingo! 😂
Lol
Wow, honestly didn't expect such a well thought through opinion on that topic from you. I thought you would show the tough law and order guy. I find it really refreshing to watch that and it actually gives me hope that the usa are able to go back on to the right track. Thank you! PS: This is one of the rare times i would actually love you to make a video discussing the comments you are getting.
Adult crimes = adult time‼️
In our immediate gratification society, we are trained NOT to think about tomorrow - or about consequences
I live in Canada and a lot of Americans sound nuts with their guns. And the kids are listening.
Right, with no gun available, like here in France, she would not have killed her mum. She would have thrown a big tantrum...and that's it
@@oulibemusic1257Same in Germany.
Yeah... because people never die from stabbings, poisoning, burning, getting hit by cars, or acid attacks...
@@Jake-777-7 🤣🤣🤣
I remember having huge arguments with my Mum - we are very alike and we used to knock heads. There are so many things you can do to vent frustration - yell! Throw things! Beat up a pillow! None of these things are pleasant but they won't get you locked up.
Poor dogs they know whats up thats crazy
I think the big issue here is if tried under juvy they get out at 21. They need an in between juvy and adult sentence. Maybe Maximum sentence till 40 yrs old.
Yea that’s how I feel. I’m uncomfortable with the idea of sentencing children to life in prison but kids like this are a danger to the public.
Ok question. Since she is underage and the gun was left unsecured and loaded, shouldn’t the stepdad be in trouble as well. The gun was his and should not been accessible to the kid. It’s almost like the recent school shootings that the parents are aware of their kids issues and the gun is accessible?
They could maybe go after him, but they wouldn't. The man has suffered more than enough. He was one of the victims of her crime. It'd be hard to convince a jury to find him guilty just on that basis alone.
Also. Kids aren't dumb. They can find the key to get access.
I agree…that’s the slippery slope…if law for one and not the other is unjust…is it law or up to the prosecutor? Which I also feel unjust… I don’t want stepdad to go to jail… but the law is discriminatory… a murderer gets out in 3 years but another gets life…I just don’t get it!
@@detritusofseattle BS He should be locked up. He KNEW she was mentally unstable struggling and he made sure to have a loaded weapon under a damn mattress. Zero sympathy for him.
Zero sympathy for a man whose own daughter shot him and killed his wife? Zero sympathy for a man whose life has been totally destroyed and who has lost everything?
If you lack sympathy for him then there is something wrong with you.
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She is heavely medicated during trial and was for years. In Holland she would get TBS: she would be in an jail like institution and get all kinds of therapy for a very long time. The staf and the judge evaluate if and when she could come back in society. The worst people stay there for ever in the long stay fasility.
From Holland 🇳🇱
Amerikkka isn't so kind to anyone, even those the falsely imprison. They especially wouldn't for a obviously guilty person.
Yeah... that's what I was thinking too... it's like most of the people here don't even factor her medication change a week prior into her behavior. Those meds really can do a number on people.
That is exactly how it should be. Instead we have a very stupid penal system that focuses on over the top punishments because we want to seem "tough on crime."
I like that holland respects human life. They may be criminals, but they’re still human beings. If you abuse and neglect them how do you expect them to be rehabilitated? And if you treat a violent criminal like that you’ve stooped to their level. That means your moral compass is spinning like a top. You’re no longer a trustworthy correction officer and should be fired.
@@detritusofseattleAnd look how well your justice system works, some of the worst crimes in the world, one of the most violent countries. It shows that being hard on crime and criminals is not working.
Studies have shown that teaching chess to grammar school kids helps them to see consequences of actions. In chess to win they have to think about what will happen after they make a move. This trains the brain to automatically think about consequences in real life.
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I've never heard of this before but it's an intriguing concept. (Look out google, here I come.) By the way, as a fellow yarnie, I love your handle.
or, the parents can teach them and teachers
It was neglegent on her attorney's part for not taking the 40-year plea deal.
Especially knowing it was on video
100% he just helped her into jail, she is a psychopath though so wouldve thought shed get away with it.
Well thank him for screwing up 😂
Have you watched her atty (family law) Ms. Todd, on post-trial interviews? More truths come out- not a good look
Attorneys don't take deals. They almost certainly recommended that she take the deal.
At 15, I couldn’t stand my parents. But I also understood that I still needed them because I didn’t have money to pay rent or a mortgage. I couldn’t drive. I didn’t always make the best decisions. But I did in fact know that taking a life is wrong. A lot of 15 year olds are smarter than you give them credit for, Bruce.
I'll agree that she's young & her brain isn't fully formed yet. But she is/was old enough to know what she was doing was wrong. Otherwise she wouldn't have the gun behind her back nor send the text to her step-dad. Not to be preachy but, there is a thing called just being evil. She'll get a review after 25 years or so. She can still get out & have a life. She could still spawn a couple kids. But she deserves a long prison sentence.
She should never be released from prison.
She should never be released. She will do something to someone else.
@@truffles2721 Let's hope she stays in.
They gave her life without parole. People murder their own children and get less time than she did.
She should get 20 years.
Absolutely! This kid deserves LIFE w/o parole!!
No question LIFE
I have a buddy who’s been locked up since 15 for weed ( 1 pound) we’re 25 now
wtf. no retrial? thats insane
@chnachi0 nope lol I still have my possession of an Oz or less even though in Oregon it's perfectly legal. Couldn't join active duty with a waiver because of it. I know friends who have felony from weed in oregon
Jesus. I'm sorry 😢
That's crazy and super sad 😔 I read a stat that there's more people in prison for weed related charges than all violent crime combined. Those private prison owners have to fill their cages to make money off their slaves.
Bullshit, no 15 year old would get tried as an adult for possession of weed.
My son lost his father in a car accident in which he sustained a broken femur. Four days later he turned 15 and I was allowed to tell him his father hadn't survived and he took my hand and promised me that he would take care of me when I got lod age and he did and still does. He is the youngest of our sons and they are all amazing men today. The point I am trying to make is that at 15 a person and especially a female is capable of knowing about consequences for their actions.
I’ve never been this early to anything in my life
Lol 😂
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Are these bots? I see this comment on so many videos
@@Biggums_Tyrone no I’m not a bot I’m a fan of Bruce and Michael
Her mother isn't free to move around either since she's in a box 6 feet in the ground.
See how confused and upset the dogs are? Stop doing this crap in front of them 🤬
I find Bruce to be so fulfilling and articulate. Who doesn't love intelligence in a professional man!
Bruce and Michael! You guys both make my day, thanks for the dedication and passion you guys put into this channel!
The super duo! These two make a great channel. Michael has some interesting viewpoints.
I was a farm kid that had my own guns since I was 10. By the time I was 15 I had numerous guns. Never once did it cross my mind to shoot anyone, but, I never smoked pot and had great parents/grandparents while growing up. Maybe that is more important than lack of access to a gun. A few years ago, a pos teenager shot two Alaska Troopers in a village I lived in. The gun wasn't the problem. This kid smoked pot with his derelict dad every day since he was twelve. Messed up his noggin. Guns are not the issue Bruce.
Pot is not either.
@@DaRealKing303 Pot rots the brain, causing folks to write incoherent posts.
Without a gun, nobody shoots anybody.
@@oulibemusic1257 Trump 2024. MAGA baby!!!!!!!!!
I noticed the dogs tail stopped wagging their tails after the murder. They probably felt the evil.
They reacted to the sound of the shots 🤦♂️🤦♂️ simple as that
@@dangalanga6941No it's angels
@@TheRamon333 good catch. I missed that when I watched it.
if that child was evil the dogs wouldn't have been wagging their tails around her before the killing. the dogs reacted to the mothers fear and her lifeforce leaving her body. Dogs react to any death and if the mother knew what was coming it would have added to the dog's dismay
@@sarahoreilly8355 that was the first thought I had too when I first read this guys comment so I’m glad you expressed it better
They have cameras in their house ???
Wtf for???
Theyre home security cameras. Theyre very common. It's to help protect you if your house gets robbed, youll have evidence.
She should be reminded of what she did, every single day she is in prison. Every hour of every day, she should be reminded of what horrible thing she did. I believe that when people do something that terrible they need to be forced to think about it and never forget. She never deserves to be happy ever again, she is evil