The mom screaming at her son, saying "your actions and the people you hang with" is spot on. Although she's coming unhinged (and I COMPLETELY understand why), it seems like she's probably tried in the past to set him straight. That is why I hate it when people automatically blame the parent(s). Sometimes they've tried everything under the sun and it just has not worked. At some point the person, teen, adult, whatever, is responsible for their own behavior.
@omarra6781 His mom is a nurse working every shift she can to support their family. It's my neighborhood and my bestie lives a few houses down from them. She said the youngest used to be a good kid til he got tangled up in shenanigans. Its sad because what choice does she have? She's had to work😞
@@josephdejean4620 That can be true as well. We don't know if she screamed like this all the time or not. It's easy to suspect she did/does, but the interrogation about a TRIPLE MURDER, could also be bringing out the most angry, emotional part of her. We just don't know. My statement was more about parents trying their damnedest to guide their kids and the kids completely ignoring it. I have two sons and a daughter. My kids got into their share of trouble. I didn't scream at them all the time, but make no mistake, I WOULD get angry at times. I tried to guide them but when all my efforts failed, sometimes anger and despair were the only things left. If I were this mother, sitting in an interrogation room, not knowing whether or not my kid was involved in a triple murder, I'd probably lose my sh*t too.
Mr. Rivers, I am SO sorry for your tremendous loss. I enjoyed watching the beautiful relationship you had with Michael. God be with you and your family through this extremely difficult time.
Just learned of Michael’s passing. Bruce can’t blame anything on himself. No matter the circumstances the support & love the two had for one another, respect too was something to admire. 27 is far too young. I’m sure whatever it is, one day Bruce will come forward realizing he needs us too. We need him… and will support him w love, respect & strength no matter how weak he feels. Sending him so many thoughts of hope & knowledge that w one day passing another, he will rise from bed knowing Michael’s existence will never be forgotten!! May he be healing now as he learns to go on, forever changed, but needed…❤🙏
@ you nailed it. Those two felt like part of my daily routine and I miss their presence. I will be here if he chooses to come back but if he doesn’t, I’ll enjoy the memories and rewatch the old shows.
? WHAT? Thank just cough me so off guard. I am so terribly sorry for your loss. He was a tremendous young man with an incredibly wonderful future ahead of him. Your bond was profoundly evident. My deapest thoughts and prayers are with You, your family and loved ones. ❤ 😢
@@jenniferkelly7241 I pray in time, Bruce realizes WE will help him. We need him too.. but I hope he knows, he sort of needs us, too. Non paying clients, learners as we are, we’re his support group from all over the world. I pray one day he finds his way back. He did all a father can for their son. Support. Kept him close as he advised. I can imagine where Bruce is now mentally but man, I sure he wakes one day… finds it deep within to grace us w his wisdom, wit … once again. This Christmas will be almost too much to handle for him but he needs to remember, we need him, big time!!🙏❤️
Black mom here. That mom is screaming out of pain!!!!! Shes not screaming to see if she can burst a blood vessel! She has probably gone through a lot with this child. She haa probably warned him over and over again and now look at the shit he has gotten himself into. Literally no sane person wants to see their child as a murderer!!!! This woman is pained by her kids actions.
She's doing everything she can to give her kids a good and honest life. She's a good mom. You can't control when your kids are more influenced by their idiot friends than by your words and examples.
@@jenerin905How do you know that? Everyone on here is talking out their a**, either saying the mom's a saint or the mom didn't give a sh*t. I agree with the sentiment in your last sentence but what is it about people assuming things like that? The worst mother in the world would have a similar reaction, based solely on the avalanche of shit this would probably bring down on the parents and family so the mother losing her shit doesn't automatically mean she cares about her son. For what it's worth she's probably a mediocre mother. Not good, not bad.
Yeah, it's a "cultural" thing, too. Our funerals require protective ear wear. My dying uncle made everyone leave the house, except for one daughter, so he could die in peace!
Bruce, my son confessed something awful to me when he was 16, and I turned him in. As a mom i knew that would be a big learning opportunity for him. He was either going to learn that I was ok with him severely harming another person or that I wasn't and he needed to change before adulthood. It was the hardest thing I've ever done to turn in my first born son but I stand firmly by my decision
That sounds absolutely heartbreaking to do, I hope he had a massive wake up call and is doing better now, and thank you so much for caring about others kids enough to know when it's tough love time for yours. I wish you both luck x
@Celisar1 unfortunately it did not because his felonies stayed in family court. He was off the hook on his 18 birthday and started doing drugs. Though I know he is very scared to get in trouble again, I doubt that will help. We aren't in contact currently and it's hard but I can't support the way he's chosen to live.
That's a mom who is sick of this crap happening over and over. I've been through this with my late son, enough of this and you just want it over with. My heart goes out to her.
I'm so sorry you went through that. Once they get to a certain age, you can do little more than hope their upbringing sticks. Sadly, that is not always the case.
I had a co-worker that told me 25 or so years ago, that teenagers need their parents/guidance more in their teen years than they did as toddlers! Something I only really understood once my son reached 14 or so.
Heard the story that Michael passed. If this is true, please know how many hearts go out to his family. He will be deeply missed by those who knew him, and he will be sincerely missed and mourned by a much larger group - the audience you both earned through the two of you working together. I wish you peace and healing at this unimaginable time.
I'm sorry, but her son either had knowledge of, or was involved in a triple murder at the age of 12. I don't at all blame the mother for losing her mind. That's a mom that actually cares.
Yeah but you wouldn't know if your kid was innocent or not until it was too late, so if they were and they confess to something they didn't do which happens all the time and end up in prison for life that's also on you. A lot of the time they think they'll be let go if they confess so they do.
Totally agree. I always expect my kids to face responsibility. I'm not a "not my little angel" type of mother. And I think if kids know that they tend NOT to get in trouble. I've never even had my girls in school trouble, no detentions. They always say they behave because they are more frightened of what I'll say when they get home. Id make sure they sought counsel though. Just so they get the right advice Luckily I live in the UK where gun crime is non existent, kids aren't prosecuted as adults or given adult sentences and there is lots of rehabilitation. Make them take responsibility but give kids a second chance to turn it around.
Absolutely. HOWEVER, keep in mind that even guilty people are entitled to all the protections of the law. Murderers are entitled to a lawyer, have the right to silence, and a fair trial. So advocating for your child's rights is NOT the same thing as helping them "get away" with it.
You do not have to hide or claim your child is an angel for any and all to hear - just give the best defense you can give via a lawyer. The worst thing you could do is leave them hanging or let the court figure it out. Give them a lawyer and then leave the room - let the lawyer do their job. If you have doubts, get another lawyer opinion. After the trial you can choose to continue support or not. Most parents are caught in the damned if you do and don’t.
Guys, please be kind in the comments. Michael (content genius) passed away last week. I know some in the comments are unaware of this. We have all loved watching the bond between father and son and Michael's passing is so very sad. Be kind, appreciate your loved ones and pray for Bruce and the Rivers family. ❤
@@alwayslate91 yes I only recently learned of this very sad situation a week or two ago. My heart is broken for Bruce, I cannot imagine what he's going through. I hope he saw my comment asking him what we can do to honor the memory of his precious son.
Sorry about the passing of Michael my heart goes out to you Bruce and Michaels entire Family & to his friends & all who knew & loved him I could tell by watching this channel he seemed to be a kind young man.
So sorry to hear of Michael's passing. He seemed like such a sweet guy and you guys had such a good relationship. Nice to see father and son working together creatively and it's evident that he was very talented. If there is any comfort, it would be the knowledge that some day you will be together again someway, somehow.
"It's the government's job to put someone away" such an important principle that people all too easily forget about when discussing criminal defense. Defense lawyers are there to keep the government honest and make sure the prosecution does its homework.
Everyone is supposed to have the same goal, justice based on the facts. Unfortunately that's not how it works in the real world though. Both sides seem to think winning is the goal regardless of the facts.
Yup, the guilty party must be found so beyond a REASONABLE doubt. If the defense only has unreasonable doubts to present -and sometimes they do- the jury is meant to identify it. It's the prosecution's job to also make this distinction between reasonable and unreasonable doubts clear, and I believe this is where the OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony trials most went wrong. This is just how ontology is determined.
Bruce, I just found out about your son, The Forever Content Genius Michael. I hope this message gets to you, (maybe through a friend or family member taking over your channel right now)… but I am So Fucking Sorry for your immense loss of Michael. I don’t know if you’ll ever come back to UA-cam, but if/when you could, it would honor your son to do so, and all of us …your fans, especially from the beginning… Will be here for you. I just found out about a hour ago & my heart is breaking, as well as being in shock. My heart goes out to you, your family & I am sending you all Love and virtual hugs. Take care of yourself, and I hope you come back to us someday. If not, it’s understandable. Please Know how Loved You and Michael are, and always will be!!! 🫂🫂🫂
Well said Kathleen. I found out last nite and am so sad for Bruce. Every episode Michael and Bruce produced that had a parent losing a child ,Bruce would react to how terrible that would be . I'm just heartbroken
@ You are on the nose with that, Marc… after losing his wife, he ALWAYS propped up his son even more, their bond is/was So Strong. I lost my younger brother a few years back (Jan 14, 2021 … he, Kyle, was only 40 years old) and I am Still Fucked Up about it. The pain never stops. I don’t have children, so I can only imagine the torture Bruce is enduring, and how it’s his 27 year old Son. 💔 That is a “ForNEVER Heal” situation. I wish him all the Love, prayers (for moments of Peace) & healing for him and his family. For Eternity. 🫂🕊️ There is a UA-cam channel that addresses it, and it is either his Aunt or Uncle who has been responding to people giving condolences. I want to reach out (beyond my comments with the family member), to Bruce personally, but I don’t know if that is appropriate… which is why I hope, that THIS episode being their last collaboration, I Hope someone in their family will see our comments to him, and just let Bruce know… he is a Wonderful Father!~ I wish he could’ve been MINE. You know…? 💔🫂🕊️💯
I'm standing with these good mothers that have done everything to keep their sons out of the criminal world. I have a dear friend that worked herself so hard to live in nice areas and put her son in good schools but he just kept going to the worst parts of the city with the worst people. I saw her ripped apart to her soul. It finally came to where she just couldn't handle him abymore and had to separate herself to save what she had. He had babies with multiple girls too and that became her focus. She is successful with her grandchildren and they are grown good people.
I am fully with you on this one. It's concerning how many people can sit there in their ivory towers and pass judgement on other parents without knowing the parent OR the child. I've got friends who are screaming out for help with their kids cos they've exhausted every avenue possible and they just cannot get support. It's sad because generally the only time they can get any sort of help is when their kid does something criminal and gets arrested. And the cycle continues and no one is helped. If this mother didn't care she wouldn't be this animated and passionate.
@TheNoodles341 I appreciate you speaking out for these parents. It's a viscious cycle and if we all do not stand together to say "enough" and help, it will continue.
Ha! One of the moms (the mother of the 12 year old) was setting a horrible example for her son and had a warrant out for her arrest for selling drugs if I'm not mistaken. Meaning after the interview she was taken in….and then you wonder why these kids turn out the way they do. This story is heartbreaking all around
@@tracyhaverstick5672 100% we've consistently learnt that shaming people doesn't work in fixing the wider problem. The wider problem being a flawed system that allows for this stuff to go undetected until the worst happens
I can’t imagine how stressed and just straight fed up “Reaper’s” mother is. She seems like a hardworking woman who busts her ass trying to raise her son the right way, and in return he just shits all over her effort. So many kids would be lucky to have a mom like her.
👮🏼♂️ : “you have friends right?” 👮: “your pretty popular huh?” 🦹🏼♂️: “ yeah sort of , that’s why I was home ; if I leave the house I get swarmed by fans” 👮: “and your phone will show this?” 👩🏭: “ yes sir! Like a good boy!” 🕵🏼♂️ “how come for 5 years your screen time activity shows minimum 3-5 hours use but on the night of the crime it shows zero?” 😮💨🤷🏽♂️ 🕵🏼♂️” in fact it shows your phone was at 100% on the charger the entire time and wasn’t unlocked not even once.” I remember having to learn this when learning about cyber security because the further you put VPNs and security on your browser, equally create a very unique, digital footprint 👣
My Pawpaw told me along time ago , “you are equivalent to the 5 closest people you associate with”.. Hang around criminals and you’ll wind up in jail. Hang around successful people and you’ll have greater chances of winding up successful . I’m 50 years old and successful . those words have stuck with me like he just said it . I’ve made many decisions and steered my life with those words.. Thank you PawPaw I miss you !❤
Something you definitely realize as you get older. In HS I had friends who cut class to hang out at lake to swim, drink and smoke. Meanwhile... if I cut school it was to set in on college classes. I was a honor student. I hung out with both good and bad kids. Luckily, I was a popular eclectic type nerd who didn't fit a mold thanks to school and after-school activities being my safe place from an abusive home. Most of the kids back then who got into trouble were usually dealing with abusive homes too and so I understood them. They definitely were not like kids today.
I have mad respect for defense attorneys. I can't think of another profession that is so vital to a free society, yet misunderstood by so many. Seriously, thank you for all that you do!❤
It seems you don't know anyone who's needed a public defender. Poor ppl languish in jail and go to prison more often than ppl who can afford the $10k+ ppl like Bruce require for a retainer. Just ask him what his retainer is. There's a very clear reason Bruce is wealthy and public defenders look poor and worn out.
If you think about it they're a unnecessary profession in a broken system. If prosecutors simply sought justice based on the facts and the judge held them accountable, defense wouldn't be necessary. But seeing as prosecutors and judges don't actually seek justice but victory now we need defense lawyers. People who actively try to get guilty as sin people off. The whole system is perverted where nobody actually seeks justice but victory.
My sister died suddenly at 17 years (not murder, an auto accident). There is absolutely nothing as distraught as my parents were when we found out. Children should not die before their parents. It is just horrible for the parents. It’s been over 25 years and my father still mourns her at times. My mother lived with depression from my sister’s death until my mom passed about ten years ago.
i'm sorry for the loss of your sister, my mother mourned the rest of her life when my little brother passed away at 2 in an swimming accident. i hope your mother found peace and that your sister is with her now
I love my son, but if he was off committing crimes at 17, I'd pressure him to come clean with the cops too. Getting off scot-free at 17 with a lawyer will send you right back on the street with a newfound attitude that you can do whatever the hell you want without consequence. On the other hand, if he goes to jail at 17 maybe by the time he gets out he'll have learned his lessons and try to keep out of trouble.
Yea he’ll get life and you’ll lose your son you people is stupid and don’t know the law he has a right to remain silent why you thinking they questioning him they have nothing to charge him with if you tell you still go to jail and your sentence won’t gone down for telling goofies go read a law book
@@Est.Averyyyou don’t understand decency and good parenting. If you want to raise a good person there must be consequences to wrong behavior and crimes.
I’ve worked with people who been in and out of prison and Ik what it’s like they don’t rehabilitate you like they say they just sit you in a box for how ever long you gotta sit then let you out with no help integrating back into the community , I would agree with the justice system if they really put in place things where people can really get help back out and be a part of the community
Gods Above... I'm a very jaded person, not much gets to me. But the grandmother's scream is one of the most unspeakably soul crushing things I've ever heard in my life.
Reminds me of a horrible video I saw on 4chan years ago where you see a brick going through a car window on a dash cam and although you can't see anything you hear a man screaming after seeing his wife die from the brick hitting her in the head and you hear a small child crying
13:50 That victim advocate needs retraining. When the grandfather reacted to hearing that the victim was shot, the first thing she said was “That’s what I told you when I…” -“Is my granddaughter going to be okay?” “I don’t know anything. I’m here for you” How about “Everyone is doing the best they can. When I get information, I’ll fill you in”?
Many years ago I turned up at the police station after warning my son, the next time he got into trouble with the police, I would leave him at the police station. I did. He is now 50 and I'm so proud of him. He moved away, got a job and he's doing really well now. He lives in Reading on his own boat, while I'm in the south of England. We see each other often. He's very embarrassed still about his past as a teenager. Sometimes being a mother you have to make very hard decisions. We talk about from time to time and he agrees I made the right decision. It changed his path in life and very nearly drove me to drink.
@theangriestcatintheworld yeah, it's the hardest decision I ever made. I'm now a grandmother and my son is a devoted dad. It worked. Good luck to you and much love ❤️
@@AllMi3htykidit's still not an easy path for the average Joe, but we do focus way better on rehabilitation it seems and it's generally a higher success rate than the f u method in the USA.
Whew that mom is done. Dealing with a bad kid is hard. I was a bad kid. Thank god i didnt do something to hurt myself or others. As a mother now myself i hope she can find peace, not all bad kids have bad parents.
Thank you. Parents with good kids always take full credit. They seem to love to compare themselves to parents who are truly struggling to keep their kids on the right track. Disgusting.
If you buy your child (under 18) a weapon then it is your weapon, not theirs. They can borrow it to go to the range, or hunting (if that is legal in your State), but you keep the gun locked up, away from ammo, and it doesn’t leave your sight. If your child is disturbed in anyway, don’t give them a gun.
Why is it that hard for parents to understand? I have nothing against people owning guns but some of the recklessness some gun owning people have is ridiculous. And I know most gun owners despise these people.
Thankfully we don't have to worry about guns here in the UK. Knife crime, yes, and that's bad enough. But luckily that's pretty rare in most places other than inner cities. I feel for you guys. Must be nerve wracking just sending them to school.
@@loulabelle5082Gun crime is mainly in cities in the United States too. Do you seriously think it matters if you're stabbed to death or shot? Look at the crime stats. London is just as bad as any American city. We just have way more of them.
Accountability is not just for other people. That Mother is holding her son accountable for the choices he made. She raised him right, even though he did wrong. Give that mom a hug. She is right!
Accountability to your parents vs legal accountability is very different. Poor Mom is so frustrated that she hasn't ensured her son's rights are protected whether innocent or guilty.
@LifeBetweenTheDash Sometimes, accountability has legal consequences. There are 3 dead kids behind this story. He needs to be responsible for his part. Stupid decisions still have real consequences.
Dear Bruce. So sorry for your heartbreaking loss of Michael. There are no words adequately but sending you sincere condolences from Ireland. Adored your channel. Orla. X
"Oh no! That mom doesnt have her sons back!" Dude. Yeah your right. She probably has a good heart and has the backs of the dead kids they lose their lifes of her sons actions. I respect her character. She aint going to defend her murderous son ass
I'm not sure about that, I think a lot of times the parents think their kid is innocent and about to go down for one of their dumb friends' crimes. You think your son is innocent but doesn't want to look like a snitch in front of his friends or whatever so you volunteer the phone info thinking it'll provide an alibi or some such; only after all it turns out your son is, in fact, a POS. Just a thought.
I think some parents “hope” their kids are innocent in a lot of instances. She seems to be hoping but she’s been down this road with him before and I don’t think she whole heartedly believes he’s innocent.
Facts not one child but 3 It’s not in my personal character I would hand over all my kids devices and let them search the house warrant free. I would not pay for a fancy lawyer and let them get a state appointed one but my mother would be 100% worse than this woman and I can empathise and understand ❤
I'm a stepmother who protected my stepson at age 13 when detectives were trying get him to confess to a crime. I've always told all my kids, you get ONE get out of jail free card unless it's for drunk driving or kiddie diddling... then call someone else. I saved my stepson but at what cost. He went on to rack up many traffic tickets, several misdemeanors, contempt of court, failure to appear, probation, probation violations, failed probation and released unsatisfactory and now his first felony. He literally violated probation his first day. 18 years now of him breaking the law and he's looking at 1-20 years in prison for a gun charge. I'll always wonder if I made the right choice protecting him that one time because yes, he was guilty at age 13 on what they were accusing him of. Maybe had he been held accountable back then, he'd be a better, law abiding person today. Not just for society but for his 2 young children.
Yeah this one was fucking crazy. “Reaper” crying for his mama. Wasn’t crying for your mama when you was shooting a girl. Lock em up, throw away the key.
💔 My heart breaks for you, Bruce, on the loss of your beloved son. There are so many viewers who feel the grief you must be enduring right now. We came to know Michael through you and although we can’t ease your pain, may it help you to know how much people care.
A 17 year old kid my son went to school with was arrested and found guilty for murder:: he shot a grown man in broad daylight in the middle of the street . Within school limits and then left and was arrested a few blocks away . He was just found guilty and faces 25 to life.. it’s sad .. some ppl think the kids step dad put him up to it thinking because he was a juvenile at the time he wouldn’t get much time but they tried his as an adult. It’s crazy, kids shouldn’t have access to guns without supervision.!
Depends on the kids. Plenty of rural kids have access their entire lives without problems. Guns are so common they're not looked at like forbidden fruit and played with. This scenario does require two competent parents that we unfortunately lack in some places. That's the problem, not guns that have been around hundreds of years without problems.
@@PorkChopAChunky rural kids are just as cabale of dumb and life-altering decisions.no reason a parent cant still take their kid out hunting together ffs
One of the moms had a warrant and most likely took a deal to make her son confess to soften her charge. She sent her son to prison for life to be spared albeit his charges are worse. She is the adult and was living a life of crime while raising her son who eventually followed her footsteps.
@@erinmarieee23 I never said a name. I said one of the moms. She had a warrant knowingly. She most likely took a deal to get her son to confess. It’s obvious
Police talking to grandmother has no empathy. Telling them about their granddaughter with such attitude, as if her granddaughter is simply sleeping off somewhere.
Im not sure that is the case. At that moment there were more people missing, maybe getting killed at that moment and also the killers on the run. Whilst we all need empathy at that moment the grandmother was descending (understandably) into a blubbering wreck and the police needed information Being direct is the best way to do that even if it sems unsympathetic, they need to make the grandmother engage in the questions they were asking Empathy is important but sometimes that has to take a backseat for a short while
My mom told us kids pretty young that if she found out we did something illegal, she’d turn us in herself. When she found out my sister stole a piece of candy, she took her to the manager to confess and return it. It set expectations for our behavior and we lived up to it. If we had been arrested, I’m still not sure if she would have taken off work, depending on the circumstances. But we also knew to ask for a lawyer. When bringing up my son, the same rules applied. I’m as proud of him as Bruce is of Michael. Keep up the good work, guys, showing folks consequences and saying don’t do the crime in the first place, so there’s no self snitching to happen, and ask for a lawyer.
Same here. When I was a kid, my mom caught me with candy I had no money for. She marched me down to the store and made me confess. I think I remember the owner made me sweep and take out trash. I never stole again. In high school girls bragged as bout stealing expensive sweaters etc. My mom would have dem anded, "WHERE'D you get that???" I've never wanted to steal either 😮😮 my folks didn't allow lying g or "fibbing " either. They never were drunk or mean, rude, or violent either!!
My sister and I were good kids but our parents always told us that if we did something criminal we better hope that the authorities get us first. We’d be safer with the government than either them. Knowing our parents it would have been true they wouldn’t have put up with this crap. To all the ones saying stick up for your kid at all costs. Guess what with having parents like ours we knew to keep our selves clean. We both turned out great I’m a hairstylist and my sister’s a journalist. So parents need to stop making excuses and hold their kids accountable when they do wrong.
@CLR Bruce Rivers Sending love and prayers to you and your family. I just heard of Michael's unexpected passing. Such an unimaginable and tremendous loss. 😢❤
Was heart breaking to hear that three-five's mom was going to go to jail after the interrogation was over and that she turned herself in to be with her son during his interrogation knowing she had a warrant. That is true love of someone. It's shameful that these boys/young men didn't share that love they got in their life towards others. Cases like these are why we have the death penalty. This was 3 cases of executions that happened and no remorse for any of it except the consequences.
You're making the assumption that people are all the same, react the same and have the same ability to feel/express complex emotions just like you. That's just not true for a large portion of our population now.
The female cop informing the grandfather did a horrible job. She had no compassion and confusing in what she was saying. Then got frustrated at the grandfather when he didn’t understand.
To be fair, at least judging from the sound clips in the video, the cops could have been a lot more gentle about communicating the bad news - they were being very blunt to a woman who's clearly in distress.
I got a good laugh out of that, but Jesus christ.. I'd have the same reaction if someone told me my dog had been shot, I can't even imagine what I would do if I found out about my child in the way that officer broke the news.. I might have charged at the officer and "gone for" their weapon hoping they're a fast enough draw so the full reality and grief never hit me. I saw a video on a site a year ago where 2 teenage girls were in a makeup closet recording a video of themselves playing with a gun. The gun went off and shot one of them in the head and she dropped instantly, and the one that was holding it when it went off shot herself immediately after she realized what happened. There were maybe 2 seconds between shots if that. I don't think she even thought about it, as it looked like she did it out of straight reflex. EDIT: I searched the incident and it happened in 2022 in St. Louis. The girls found a pistol during a family party and were live on Instagram. There 3 seconds between 2 shots, and only 8 seconds between the 2nd shot and their family finding them. In less than 11 seconds they went from having a fun family get together to it being the most tragic day that they will ever have. They were 12 and 14. What an absolutely senseless tragedy that was.
My father chased me out of the house with a knife, I had to jump through the window at 16. 'For what' someone might ask, coming in 15 minutes late. That's just one scenario, there was plenty more. I loved my father with all my heart. Life is what it is, we learn to deal with it and move on.
@ I am sorry you had to deal with such terror. Plenty more for me as well however they are our parents & our version of love gets skewed. Agree we learn to adapt & for some are better parents now. Hugs
I have told my son, Don't ever speak to the police without a lawyer present; tell them you want a lawyer. Period. His dad is a cop and has told him the same thing.
The grandparent howling was just so heartbreaking, seriously it was haunting. Very well said Bruce, you never fail to make me laugh. Love the banter between Michael and yourself, I bet your content genius has lots of hilarious stories. Watching from Australia 🇦🇺
So, what did you think of the Sarah Boone trial?... How everyone handling the suitcase in the courtroom had to wear gloves, yet they dragged that said suitcase all over the courtroom floor. 😂😂 Are the floors that clean?😂
I just noticed your youtube user name. Ah, makes sense *light bulb moment * anyway, thank you for keeping these spaces clean/pristine. Justice isn't always perfect, but. I must say the courtrooms always seem to be ;)
@@kookietherapy9398 my floors are very clean and especially high profile cases like hers makes me think that the custodian/janitor had really worked hard on the courtroom to get it ready for trial and cameras. Carpet was probably shampooed and vacuumed every night.
This mom is legit... id rather have my kid be honest and face the consequences of their actions than reinforce their bad behavior by getting them out of trouble. I love you enough to allow you to learn and grow.
No because it isn't like the cops are going to charge him with what he is ACTUALLY responsible for. THEY aren't going to be honest. They will try to nail him to the cross, so yeah, she should follow the legal process - ask for a lawyer and help her son face his consequences later.
@@normaforsyth7950just get a lawyer ive been through the system. Being honest doesnt get you less time talkin to the cops doesnt get you out of jail that night
Yep! People wonder why so many adults act the way they do and it's because their parents always bailed them out of every bad situation they put themselves in. I would have told him good luck and talk to your public defender. I don't want a triple murderer around me at all that's pure evil! How can you sleep in your home with someone like that in the other room?
Exactly my mom always told my sister and I that her and our dad weren’t there to be our friends they were there to be our parents and to mentor us and make sure we were ready for the next stage in life. She would tell us that if we ever got ourselves in legal trouble that we’d be safer with the government than then with them. Trust me that was a cold hard fact. Guess what my sister and I turned out great I’m a hairstylist stylist and she’s a journalist. Except for the other year when her and I visited Alchatrez in San Francisco for vacation. We never spent a second of our lives in a prison.
The mom should tell her son since he doesn’t want to cooperate he’s on his own because she has to go to work. Tough love! It’s pointless to keep trying to help someone if they won’t help themselves even when it’s your kid
I read something once that said something to the effect that even god helps those that helps themselves. I don't know if thats true or not but it makes sense to me..
REALLY? You advise we abandon our kids? Just leave them with cops that work for the district attny? I hope you don't have children, if u do, looks like you care more about money than your child. Disgusting.
@@amusedBYfoolsWho’s going to pay for their attorney without money? The roof over there head if they’re able to get home? Food on their table- or put money in their books? That mom was doing everything she could. She’d been missing a lot of work already to be in that same position MULTIPLE TIMES because her son CHOSE to hang around bad people.
@ I’m looking at it from the point of view of an almost adult repeatedly getting in trouble. A kid that even though she’s screaming at him he doesn’t want to snitch. My brother kept getting in trouble and my dad bailed him out the first time. The next time he got in trouble my dad didn’t help. Eventually my brother got himself straight. Got his GED, went to college, and now has a good paying job. Constantly bailing kids out of their problems doesn’t teach them anything
@@PolliwogPartyI’m not trying to be mean.. but- I do find myself “fast forwarding” past the father - son chatter/banter. I feel like Michael is “putting on”.. it feels awkward, anxious, nervous- and fake. If he would just relax- and be himself (you can’t convince me that’s his natural personality..) it wouldn’t be so hard to watch/listen to. I’m not a mean spirited person.. I actually LIKE to hear Bruce curse, because that’s clearly how he talks. I cuss like a sailor and trucker in a locker room.. regardless, I’m just saying- the *content genius* BTS are cringey 😬.
@@Wrldisyoursit’s not malicious… it’s just- it feels “put on”. For me specifically, it’s just hard to watch… I don’t like skipping through videos bc I want creators to get paid- especially bc I have premium- so there’s no ad revenue from me- but I wouldn’t mind watching them if Michael could just be himself. His nervousness is so intense that I can FEEL it through the camera. I don’t think he should stop doing it- I just wish he’d be a little more natural.
My Christian neighbour had only one son and he turned out to be a devil child. After putting up with him and his stress for years she finally cut all ties and never let him back into her life. It was a choice between living or letting him slowly stress and kill her.
This is literally my neighborhood! My bestie lives just a few houses down and heard the shots! This place was heaven when we moved out here in 2008. Ive fished and swam in that lake. Raised my daughter on a mini farm selling & delivering chicken eggs to neighbors. Didnt have to lock doors, could go outside at night, everyone knew eachother and helped eachother. We had yearly potlucks. our kids were out here hunting, boating, cruising on golf carts to enjoy the animals, fishing, and helping neighbors. Now you cant even walk down the street. Idiots come out here 4-wheeling and shooting guns for fun. Tearing up and destroying the woods, trails, and what used to be clear & clean spring fed lakes. Destroying a literal paradise and running off all the animals. Its absolutely insane.
Actually I respect these moms BECAUSE you can tell they’ve been teaching the sons right and wrong for a long time but they still keep choosing wrong and they’re tired of it
My parents were the most honorable people I ever knew. Believe me, they didn't "have my back" if I did anything wrong. And that is why I respected them so very much. Honor is dead these days. If you think helping murderers get back on the street to victimize more people, well, good for you, but luckily there are enough honorable people out there willing to do what's right.
I am loving 🥰 this channel! I love the fact it’s a father and son working together to educate us to stop self snitching if we ever find ourselves in a legal situation. Thank you gentlemen! ❤
I just have the utmost respect for you, Bruce. The response you answered about defending a 100% guilty man is the best ever. If I ever get in trouble, you are hired.
At 12, I was fostering dogs and cats. We would socialize and train them, then place them in their forever homes. I wasn't doing anything like this. I got into trouble with friends, but not this kind of trouble. 😮
@goatbabe0666 Oh yes! By highschool, everyone knew where to have parties. We would play on the hay bales until a snake crawled into some girl's clothes 😅. We don't have many poisonous snakes here. One may make people sick. Have some rattle snakes, but not usually in farm fields. Rural areas, trespassing is a real thing, but not the worst thing.
Then demand for better gun laws. Why are you the only country in the civilized world that always needs to have guns, they bring nothing but misery. Demand better from your law makers. Who in their right mind thinks open carry is good for everyone involved? Only your law makers.
@prevosfr if Altima Americans Americans were considered there own country they would commit more firearm violence than population of Finland,Norway, Sweden ,nz,Australia and yte and Lat Americans combined both at net level and per cap adjustment
It's a challenging question whether parents should "have your back" or they should be holding you responsible for your actions. Maybe it depends on the circumstances. But loyalty should not supercede morality, in my opinion.
I think I agree and I say think not because I’m a monster but because I’m not a mother who birthed a child so I can only imagine the loyalty you’d have for what you’ve created so it must be really hard to try and separate the two things ukno .. really bad situation to be in as a parent
My greatest fear for one of my grandsons is not that he does something this heinous, but that he's with someone or a few of friends when something horribly wrong goes down. I tell him over and over "Just shut up. Don't say anything about ANYTHING. Ask for a lawyer. Please listen to me. I don't care if you're innocent or not. Just shut up. "
My grandmother never felt the need to tell me something like that. If you think you have to your grandson appears to be on a very bad path and you would be playing along by not addressing the real problem.
@Celisar1 - I am worried sick about his "path" and I have been tossed out of my sons home for chastising the kid as he grew up. I cant remember how many times I have been told "This is our home. Not yours. Be nice or don't come in.!" Now, please keep in mind I was a foster parent for 25+ years, helped 92 children seek shelter from their storm. 6 of them wanted to stay, so I adopted them. I raised 10 children into adults. Good adults. All 10 graduated high school even my Down Syndrome son. 5 went into the military and one of my sons that entered the US Navy became a SEAL.He was wounded in Panama and retired. Both of my Marines came home , one missing a leg, and both ARMY guys came home. My children have never been 8nside a joil and with the exception of being adopted never been in a courtroom. So I must be doing something right.
Having worked with adolescents for over 25 years, which I began in 1993 as a youth outreach counselor on the west side of Chicago. Growing up on the south side of Chicago I was very familiar with gangs and losing a lot of family and friends to gang violence. The gang violence today has gotten worse and these lost young people (boys & girls) don’t stand a chance. WE as ADULTS are mostly to blame!!! I say we because it truly takes a village to raise healthy children. It’s not one issue that’s the problem, there are many layered issues that have gone unaddressed/unresolved for generations. Things progressively get worse with each generation and will continue to get worse until we start making the necessary changes to fix them. This is completely the responsibility of the adults in our society. IMO here are a few things: Adults make the decisions on what movies, music and social media..etc that will publicize to the public. Adults set the examples of how children should behave. What kind of behavior are we showing our children? The “do as I say not as I do” doesn’t work! The educational system needs to be overhauled. We need to bring back some social programs and add additional programs that will help our youth. Like summer job programs, after school programs and athletics programs that are no to low cost. We need to take bringing children into this world much more seriously and have a better understanding of what that all involves. We need to understand how selling and consuming drugs affects us all in the present and future. I’ll stop here but there a lot more to list. We have to exhibit better behavior for our children to be better humans.
First, we need stop having kids with criminals. Secondly, both parents need to move out the hood so the kids don't have to see violence on the regular.
Just hearing about your son😢I completely enjoyed the interactions between you both. The loss of a child is unimaginable. Please know many of us are thinking about you and your family. ❤🙏
The 12 yr old doesn’t think beyond himself. He’s not thinking about his mother missing work, possibly losing her job and how all that “adult stuff” will affect his siblings. I wouldn’t be yelling but I’d get him a lawyer and make him tell the lawyer the truth so he’d at least have a chance in court. Police want justice for the victims and their families. The kid should serve time for his stupidity but probably not life. He needs a second chance. But if he messes up again…bye!
I’m so sorry for your loss Bruce, I know Michael was the centre of your life. You love him & you celebrated his interests & talents. I hope that can bring you some solace, you gave him a good life 🫂
Exactly. Whether they did it or not, defendants deserve competent representation, and in this case, I don't think that your mom yelling at you and interrogating you along with the police is that. It's hard to feel sympathy for this kid, but at the same time, unless he's a complete psycho, he didn't get this way on his own.
The female police officer could have been a bit more empathetic! The grandmas already wailing and asked where her granddaughter was shot. For the officer to say “she was shot in the head” all upbeat and quickly. Who trained her! Wtf. Unbelievably cold.
Damn you could be empathetic and not watch someone be vulnerable in a bad time, or wailing their heart out! Or even better- you could report the office if it was so bad, yet you won't. You'll just virtue signal
The mom screaming at her son, saying "your actions and the people you hang with" is spot on. Although she's coming unhinged (and I COMPLETELY understand why), it seems like she's probably tried in the past to set him straight. That is why I hate it when people automatically blame the parent(s). Sometimes they've tried everything under the sun and it just has not worked. At some point the person, teen, adult, whatever, is responsible for their own behavior.
You are wrong! Mother's doing this to their sons is exactly what turns sons into criminals! No excuse for any mother to act like this towards her son!
@omarra6781 His mom is a nurse working every shift she can to support their family. It's my neighborhood and my bestie lives a few houses down from them. She said the youngest used to be a good kid til he got tangled up in shenanigans. Its sad because what choice does she have? She's had to work😞
@@josephdejean4620 That can be true as well. We don't know if she screamed like this all the time or not. It's easy to suspect she did/does, but the interrogation about a TRIPLE MURDER, could also be bringing out the most angry, emotional part of her. We just don't know. My statement was more about parents trying their damnedest to guide their kids and the kids completely ignoring it. I have two sons and a daughter. My kids got into their share of trouble. I didn't scream at them all the time, but make no mistake, I WOULD get angry at times. I tried to guide them but when all my efforts failed, sometimes anger and despair were the only things left. If I were this mother, sitting in an interrogation room, not knowing whether or not my kid was involved in a triple murder, I'd probably lose my sh*t too.
@@InLieuTube Okay, well you're free to have your own opinion about it. So am I.
@@adriennef4637 That's why I understand her emotions. She's trying and it isn't working.
Mr. Rivers, I am SO sorry for your tremendous loss. I enjoyed watching the beautiful relationship you had with Michael. God be with you and your family through this extremely difficult time.
Just learned of Michael’s passing. Bruce can’t blame anything on himself. No matter the circumstances the support & love the two had for one another, respect too was something to admire. 27 is far too young. I’m sure whatever it is, one day Bruce will come forward realizing he needs us too. We need him… and will support him w love, respect & strength no matter how weak he feels. Sending him so many thoughts of hope & knowledge that w one day passing another, he will rise from bed knowing Michael’s existence will never be forgotten!! May he be healing now as he learns to go on, forever changed, but needed…❤🙏
@ you nailed it. Those two felt like part of my daily routine and I miss their presence. I will be here if he chooses to come back but if he doesn’t, I’ll enjoy the memories and rewatch the old shows.
? WHAT? Thank just cough me so off guard. I am so terribly sorry for your loss. He was a tremendous young man with an incredibly wonderful future ahead of him. Your bond was profoundly evident. My deapest thoughts and prayers are with You, your family and loved ones. ❤ 😢
@@jenniferkelly7241 I pray in time, Bruce realizes WE will help him. We need him too.. but I hope he knows, he sort of needs us, too. Non paying clients, learners as we are, we’re his support group from all over the world. I pray one day he finds his way back. He did all a father can for their son. Support. Kept him close as he advised. I can imagine where Bruce is now mentally but man, I sure he wakes one day… finds it deep within to grace us w his wisdom, wit … once again. This Christmas will be almost too much to handle for him but he needs to remember, we need him, big time!!🙏❤️
That's so sad. He must be devastated.
Deepest condolences Bruce. Your affection and pride in your son was palpable through the screen. I hope time brings peace.. Love from Ireland.
Black mom here. That mom is screaming out of pain!!!!! Shes not screaming to see if she can burst a blood vessel! She has probably gone through a lot with this child. She haa probably warned him over and over again and now look at the shit he has gotten himself into. Literally no sane person wants to see their child as a murderer!!!! This woman is pained by her kids actions.
She's doing everything she can to give her kids a good and honest life. She's a good mom. You can't control when your kids are more influenced by their idiot friends than by your words and examples.
@@jenerin905How do you know that? Everyone on here is talking out their a**, either saying the mom's a saint or the mom didn't give a sh*t. I agree with the sentiment in your last sentence but what is it about people assuming things like that? The worst mother in the world would have a similar reaction, based solely on the avalanche of shit this would probably bring down on the parents and family so the mother losing her shit doesn't automatically mean she cares about her son. For what it's worth she's probably a mediocre mother. Not good, not bad.
Yes I think you are right.
Yeah, it's a "cultural" thing, too. Our funerals require protective ear wear. My dying uncle made everyone leave the house, except for one daughter, so he could die in peace!
She would be much more effective if she didn’t scream and talk nonstop…no one wants to hear that
Bruce, my son confessed something awful to me when he was 16, and I turned him in. As a mom i knew that would be a big learning opportunity for him. He was either going to learn that I was ok with him severely harming another person or that I wasn't and he needed to change before adulthood. It was the hardest thing I've ever done to turn in my first born son but I stand firmly by my decision
You alone have to go to sleep with your own conscience. I'm proud of you.
You sound like an excellent parent! I applaud you. Did it help?
Is he out
That sounds absolutely heartbreaking to do, I hope he had a massive wake up call and is doing better now, and thank you so much for caring about others kids enough to know when it's tough love time for yours. I wish you both luck x
@Celisar1 unfortunately it did not because his felonies stayed in family court. He was off the hook on his 18 birthday and started doing drugs. Though I know he is very scared to get in trouble again, I doubt that will help. We aren't in contact currently and it's hard but I can't support the way he's chosen to live.
Bruce I am so very sorry for your loss...The relationship you had with Michael on UA-cam was so beautiful...he will be missed...
That's a mom who is sick of this crap happening over and over. I've been through this with my late son, enough of this and you just want it over with. My heart goes out to her.
Amen!
She’s the reason her son turned out like this. She obviously immature and overly emotional. 😅
@@LawgicalXXsingle moms raise felons
No father prolly screamed him out of the house.
just guessing.
I'm so sorry you went through that.
Once they get to a certain age, you can do little more than hope their upbringing sticks. Sadly, that is not always the case.
I had a co-worker that told me 25 or so years ago, that teenagers need their parents/guidance more in their teen years than they did as toddlers! Something I only really understood once my son reached 14 or so.
As a dad of a ten year old...uh oh
@theangryaustralian7624 My child was all balls and no brains, I swear! It helped that we had a pretty good rapport going into the teen years.
My brothers 13, sometimes I forget what being 13 was like, I needed to read this because I’m the one who takes care of him and raises him, thank you.
Well obviously .
@aliceangel262 You're very welcome.
Heard the story that Michael passed. If this is true, please know how many hearts go out to his family. He will be deeply missed by those who knew him, and he will be sincerely missed and mourned by a much larger group - the audience you both earned through the two of you working together.
I wish you peace and healing at this unimaginable time.
I'm sorry, but her son either had knowledge of, or was involved in a triple murder at the age of 12. I don't at all blame the mother for losing her mind. That's a mom that actually cares.
She's getting her son more time.
@@Lumberduck If he did it, wouldn't you want your kid to get more time to protect other people's kids?
Maybe a Mother who cares but definitely one who can't keep her emotions regulated enough to ask for a lawyer for her child.
@@Lukkaboc Exact statement "If." He needs a lawyer.
@@LifeBetweenTheDash Right. She was being real which isn't something that's always advisable.
I would not help my kid get away with murder. I think I would feel responsible for protecting any potential future victims.
Yeah but you wouldn't know if your kid was innocent or not until it was too late, so if they were and they confess to something they didn't do which happens all the time and end up in prison for life that's also on you. A lot of the time they think they'll be let go if they confess so they do.
Totally agree. I always expect my kids to face responsibility. I'm not a "not my little angel" type of mother. And I think if kids know that they tend NOT to get in trouble. I've never even had my girls in school trouble, no detentions. They always say they behave because they are more frightened of what I'll say when they get home.
Id make sure they sought counsel though. Just so they get the right advice
Luckily I live in the UK where gun crime is non existent, kids aren't prosecuted as adults or given adult sentences and there is lots of rehabilitation.
Make them take responsibility but give kids a second chance to turn it around.
Absolutely. HOWEVER, keep in mind that even guilty people are entitled to all the protections of the law. Murderers are entitled to a lawyer, have the right to silence, and a fair trial. So advocating for your child's rights is NOT the same thing as helping them "get away" with it.
Easy there tiger. Until you're in that situation, until you kid is involved in something like this, you genuinely don't know what you would do.
You do not have to hide or claim your child is an angel for any and all to hear - just give the best defense you can give via a lawyer.
The worst thing you could do is leave them hanging or let the court figure it out.
Give them a lawyer and then leave the room - let the lawyer do their job.
If you have doubts, get another lawyer opinion.
After the trial you can choose to continue support or not.
Most parents are caught in the damned if you do and don’t.
Guys, please be kind in the comments. Michael (content genius) passed away last week. I know some in the comments are unaware of this. We have all loved watching the bond between father and son and Michael's passing is so very sad. Be kind, appreciate your loved ones and pray for Bruce and the Rivers family. ❤
Is that true?
So sad sending my deepest condolences
@@alwayslate91 yes I only recently learned of this very sad situation a week or two ago.
My heart is broken for Bruce, I cannot imagine what he's going through. I hope he saw my comment asking him what we can do to honor the memory of his precious son.
Sorry about the passing of Michael my heart goes out to you Bruce and Michaels entire Family & to his friends & all who knew & loved him I could tell by watching this channel he seemed to be a kind young man.
Have I missed something here?
@@KylieCustMichael Rivers sadly passed away on November 17, 2024. 😢
Oh no! OMG this is news to me. My heart goes out to Bruce and his family. 😅🙏
Sincere condolences Bruce and family. May God give you strength during this difficult time. You always showed your love for Michael. RIP Michael.🙏
I am so sorry, Bruce. Words cannot describe how we are all hurting for you. Michael was a light to the world.
So sorry to hear of Michael's passing. He seemed like such a sweet guy and you guys had such a good relationship. Nice to see father and son working together creatively and it's evident that he was very talented. If there is any comfort, it would be the knowledge that some day you will be together again someway, somehow.
"It's the government's job to put someone away" such an important principle that people all too easily forget about when discussing criminal defense. Defense lawyers are there to keep the government honest and make sure the prosecution does its homework.
Everyone is supposed to have the same goal, justice based on the facts. Unfortunately that's not how it works in the real world though. Both sides seem to think winning is the goal regardless of the facts.
Yup, the guilty party must be found so beyond a REASONABLE doubt. If the defense only has unreasonable doubts to present -and sometimes they do- the jury is meant to identify it. It's the prosecution's job to also make this distinction between reasonable and unreasonable doubts clear, and I believe this is where the OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony trials most went wrong. This is just how ontology is determined.
We don’t have the same goals if your murdering and burglarizing people, if your a criminal committing crimes, your on your own
True, but most parents wouldn't want a killer out free and living with them. What a nightmare that would be.
Facts
If you are cornered at the police station, you yell 2 things to save you: lawyer and E-forms.
Don’t sign anything, unless it’s E-sign!
😂😂😂😂😂
And grandma!
@leas7830 just don't yell, "donuts!!"
@@gretchen0684 🤤 Thank you, now I fancy donuts 😅
Bruce, I just found out about your son, The Forever Content Genius Michael.
I hope this message gets to you, (maybe through a friend or family member taking over your channel right now)… but I am So Fucking Sorry for your immense loss of Michael.
I don’t know if you’ll ever come back to UA-cam, but if/when you could, it would honor your son to do so, and all of us …your fans, especially from the beginning… Will be here for you.
I just found out about a hour ago & my heart is breaking, as well as being in shock. My heart goes out to you, your family & I am sending you all Love and virtual hugs.
Take care of yourself, and I hope you come back to us someday.
If not, it’s understandable.
Please Know how Loved You and Michael are, and always will be!!! 🫂🫂🫂
Well said Kathleen. I found out last nite and am so sad for Bruce. Every episode Michael and Bruce produced that had a parent losing a child ,Bruce would react to how terrible that would be . I'm just heartbroken
@ You are on the nose with that, Marc… after losing his wife, he ALWAYS propped up his son even more, their bond is/was So Strong.
I lost my younger brother a few years back (Jan 14, 2021 … he, Kyle, was only 40 years old) and I am Still Fucked Up about it. The pain never stops.
I don’t have children, so I can only imagine the torture Bruce is enduring, and how it’s his 27 year old Son. 💔
That is a “ForNEVER Heal” situation.
I wish him all the Love, prayers (for moments of Peace) & healing for him and his family.
For Eternity. 🫂🕊️
There is a UA-cam channel that addresses it, and it is either his Aunt or Uncle who has been responding to people giving condolences.
I want to reach out (beyond my comments with the family member), to Bruce personally, but I don’t know if that is appropriate… which is why I hope, that THIS episode being their last collaboration, I Hope someone in their family will see our comments to him, and just let Bruce know… he is a Wonderful Father!~ I wish he could’ve been MINE.
You know…? 💔🫂🕊️💯
I just love how Bruce praises his son every single episode 🖤🇿🇦
3 people got murdered and all u can take away is how nice the host is to his own adult child? give it a rest...
@@EKk8819okay, grumpy. Perhaps you need a nap.
@@EKk8819Smoke one, bro
What's going on with Bruce's son? Also there's an error in the thumbnail ❤
@ we all know there is a misspelled word. No big deal.
Why do you think there is something wrong with his son?
I'm standing with these good mothers that have done everything to keep their sons out of the criminal world. I have a dear friend that worked herself so hard to live in nice areas and put her son in good schools but he just kept going to the worst parts of the city with the worst people. I saw her ripped apart to her soul. It finally came to where she just couldn't handle him abymore and had to separate herself to save what she had. He had babies with multiple girls too and that became her focus. She is successful with her grandchildren and they are grown good people.
I am fully with you on this one. It's concerning how many people can sit there in their ivory towers and pass judgement on other parents without knowing the parent OR the child. I've got friends who are screaming out for help with their kids cos they've exhausted every avenue possible and they just cannot get support. It's sad because generally the only time they can get any sort of help is when their kid does something criminal and gets arrested. And the cycle continues and no one is helped. If this mother didn't care she wouldn't be this animated and passionate.
@TheNoodles341 I appreciate you speaking out for these parents. It's a viscious cycle and if we all do not stand together to say "enough" and help, it will continue.
Ha! One of the moms (the mother of the 12 year old) was setting a horrible example for her son and had a warrant out for her arrest for selling drugs if I'm not mistaken. Meaning after the interview she was taken in….and then you wonder why these kids turn out the way they do. This story is heartbreaking all around
@@tracyhaverstick5672 100% we've consistently learnt that shaming people doesn't work in fixing the wider problem. The wider problem being a flawed system that allows for this stuff to go undetected until the worst happens
lol what? The mother gets arrested at the end of the video bc she has a warrant for cocaine possession 😂
I can’t imagine how stressed and just straight fed up “Reaper’s” mother is. She seems like a hardworking woman who busts her ass trying to raise her son the right way, and in return he just shits all over her effort. So many kids would be lucky to have a mom like her.
First rule of crime is DONT. The second rule of crime is leave your phone at home.
Indeed!! Leave your phone at home!
👮🏼♂️ : “you have friends right?”
👮: “your pretty popular huh?”
🦹🏼♂️: “ yeah sort of , that’s why I was home ; if I leave the house I get swarmed by fans”
👮: “and your phone will show this?”
👩🏭: “ yes sir! Like a good boy!”
🕵🏼♂️ “how come for 5 years your screen time activity shows minimum 3-5 hours use but on the night of the crime it shows zero?”
😮💨🤷🏽♂️
🕵🏼♂️” in fact it shows your phone was at 100% on the charger the entire time and wasn’t unlocked not even once.”
I remember having to learn this when learning about cyber security because the further you put VPNs and security on your browser, equally create a very unique, digital footprint 👣
3rd ask for a lawyer immediately
@@Thiernodjo save money to afford the lawyer
2 ppl can only keep a secret if 1 is dead.
My Pawpaw told me along time ago , “you are equivalent to the 5 closest people you associate with”..
Hang around criminals and you’ll wind up in jail. Hang around successful people and you’ll have greater chances of winding up successful .
I’m 50 years old and successful . those words have stuck with me like he just said it . I’ve made many decisions and steered my life with those words..
Thank you PawPaw I miss you !❤
You were so very lucky to have a wise pawpaw!😊
Aaaaah I just love that. I am 70 and have never been anything special. I wish I'd had a PawPaw.
This is why I’ve chosen to lose friends that were going nowhere. Rather be alone.
My grandfather told me the same thing! I didn't listen at first, but I eventually grew up, and now life is amazing ✊🏾💪🏾
Something you definitely realize as you get older.
In HS I had friends who cut class to hang out at lake to swim, drink and smoke. Meanwhile... if I cut school it was to set in on college classes. I was a honor student. I hung out with both good and bad kids.
Luckily, I was a popular eclectic type nerd who didn't fit a mold thanks to school and after-school activities being my safe place from an abusive home. Most of the kids back then who got into trouble were usually dealing with abusive homes too and so I understood them. They definitely were not like kids today.
Just heard about the passing of Michael. I'm so sorry. I lost my middle son, Corey in 2011. Prayers for you and your family
I have mad respect for defense attorneys. I can't think of another profession that is so vital to a free society, yet misunderstood by so many. Seriously, thank you for all that you do!❤
To get literal animals like these three off?
Show me a public defender who has the time or resources to do much more than plea bargain.
It seems you don't know anyone who's needed a public defender. Poor ppl languish in jail and go to prison more often than ppl who can afford the $10k+ ppl like Bruce require for a retainer.
Just ask him what his retainer is. There's a very clear reason Bruce is wealthy and public defenders look poor and worn out.
If you think about it they're a unnecessary profession in a broken system. If prosecutors simply sought justice based on the facts and the judge held them accountable, defense wouldn't be necessary. But seeing as prosecutors and judges don't actually seek justice but victory now we need defense lawyers. People who actively try to get guilty as sin people off. The whole system is perverted where nobody actually seeks justice but victory.
Getting a guilty man off to go free is different than making sure a guilty man or better yet an innocent man doesn't get screwed over.
My sister died suddenly at 17 years (not murder, an auto accident). There is absolutely nothing as distraught as my parents were when we found out. Children should not die before their parents. It is just horrible for the parents. It’s been over 25 years and my father still mourns her at times. My mother lived with depression from my sister’s death until my mom passed about ten years ago.
Love and deep condolences for both of you losses
@@raremage I am so sorry that you had to endure such a numbing horrible tragedy. RIP to your sister mate, what was her name if I may ask?
@ Thanks, it’s been a long time now and you still remember every day. It’s different for me as a sibling of course. Her name was Lisa.
i'm sorry for the loss of your sister, my mother mourned the rest of her life when my little brother passed away at 2 in an swimming accident. i hope your mother found peace and that your sister is with her now
I lost my wife and my first born baby boy!!! I completely feel your pain!!! 😢
Rest in peace, Michael Rivers.
I love my son, but if he was off committing crimes at 17, I'd pressure him to come clean with the cops too.
Getting off scot-free at 17 with a lawyer will send you right back on the street with a newfound attitude that you can do whatever the hell you want without consequence.
On the other hand, if he goes to jail at 17 maybe by the time he gets out he'll have learned his lessons and try to keep out of trouble.
Yea he’ll get life and you’ll lose your son you people is stupid and don’t know the law he has a right to remain silent why you thinking they questioning him they have nothing to charge him with if you tell you still go to jail and your sentence won’t gone down for telling goofies go read a law book
@@Est.Averyyyou don’t understand decency and good parenting.
If you want to raise a good person there must be consequences to wrong behavior and crimes.
@@Celisar1 who is there to raise when your son gone for life
I’ve worked with people who been in and out of prison and Ik what it’s like they don’t rehabilitate you like they say they just sit you in a box for how ever long you gotta sit then let you out with no help integrating back into the community , I would agree with the justice system if they really put in place things where people can really get help back out and be a part of the community
If your kid is on the hook for triple homicide you’ve already failed as a parent
Gods Above... I'm a very jaded person, not much gets to me. But the grandmother's scream is one of the most unspeakably soul crushing things I've ever heard in my life.
Reminds me of a horrible video I saw on 4chan years ago where you see a brick going through a car window on a dash cam and although you can't see anything you hear a man screaming after seeing his wife die from the brick hitting her in the head and you hear a small child crying
soft, just another day
@@big123lakget over yourself, you will hear it and do it one day too
I agree
@@big123lakwtf
13:50 That victim advocate needs retraining. When the grandfather reacted to hearing that the victim was shot, the first thing she said was “That’s what I told you when I…”
-“Is my granddaughter going to be okay?”
“I don’t know anything. I’m here for you”
How about “Everyone is doing the best they can. When I get information, I’ll fill you in”?
You are absolutely right. No one needs bits of info. Terrible
Sadly, the training is the problem. It's inadequate to begin with.
Many years ago I turned up at the police station after warning my son, the next time he got into trouble with the police, I would leave him at the police station. I did. He is now 50 and I'm so proud of him. He moved away, got a job and he's doing really well now. He lives in Reading on his own boat, while I'm in the south of England. We see each other often. He's very embarrassed still about his past as a teenager. Sometimes being a mother you have to make very hard decisions. We talk about from time to time and he agrees I made the right decision. It changed his path in life and very nearly drove me to drink.
My mum did the same. I was spitting angry, but it did teach me a valuable lesson.
@theangriestcatintheworld yeah, it's the hardest decision I ever made. I'm now a grandmother and my son is a devoted dad. It worked.
Good luck to you and much love ❤️
@@ericandmax The hardest lessons are the most important ones! 💙
So if u get arrested in England they still give u opportunities to be successful?
@@AllMi3htykidit's still not an easy path for the average Joe, but we do focus way better on rehabilitation it seems and it's generally a higher success rate than the f u method in the USA.
Whew that mom is done. Dealing with a bad kid is hard. I was a bad kid. Thank god i didnt do something to hurt myself or others. As a mother now myself i hope she can find peace, not all bad kids have bad parents.
Thank you. Parents with good kids always take full credit. They seem to love to compare themselves to parents who are truly struggling to keep their kids on the right track. Disgusting.
There are no words.
My prayers were sent to you, Bruce, the Rivers family, and friends. 🙏💜 🇨🇦
If you buy your child (under 18) a weapon then it is your weapon, not theirs. They can borrow it to go to the range, or hunting (if that is legal in your State), but you keep the gun locked up, away from ammo, and it doesn’t leave your sight. If your child is disturbed in anyway, don’t give them a gun.
Even of the child is not disturbed they dont need a gun lol
Facts!
Why is it that hard for parents to understand? I have nothing against people owning guns but some of the recklessness some gun owning people have is ridiculous. And I know most gun owners despise these people.
Thankfully we don't have to worry about guns here in the UK. Knife crime, yes, and that's bad enough. But luckily that's pretty rare in most places other than inner cities.
I feel for you guys. Must be nerve wracking just sending them to school.
@@loulabelle5082Gun crime is mainly in cities in the United States too. Do you seriously think it matters if you're stabbed to death or shot? Look at the crime stats. London is just as bad as any American city. We just have way more of them.
Accountability is not just for other people. That Mother is holding her son accountable for the choices he made. She raised him right, even though he did wrong. Give that mom a hug. She is right!
Did she though?
Accountability to your parents vs legal accountability is very different. Poor Mom is so frustrated that she hasn't ensured her son's rights are protected whether innocent or guilty.
People hate black single mothers I would give her a hug
@LifeBetweenTheDash Sometimes, accountability has legal consequences. There are 3 dead kids behind this story. He needs to be responsible for his part. Stupid decisions still have real consequences.
She's an idiot. No lawyer, waiving rights and wearing booty shorts and slippers out in public lol
Dear Bruce. So sorry for your heartbreaking loss of Michael. There are no words adequately but sending you sincere condolences from Ireland. Adored your channel. Orla. X
"Oh no! That mom doesnt have her sons back!"
Dude. Yeah your right. She probably has a good heart and has the backs of the dead kids they lose their lifes of her sons actions. I respect her character. She aint going to defend her murderous son ass
I'm not sure about that, I think a lot of times the parents think their kid is innocent and about to go down for one of their dumb friends' crimes. You think your son is innocent but doesn't want to look like a snitch in front of his friends or whatever so you volunteer the phone info thinking it'll provide an alibi or some such; only after all it turns out your son is, in fact, a POS. Just a thought.
I think some parents “hope” their kids are innocent in a lot of instances. She seems to be hoping but she’s been down this road with him before and I don’t think she whole heartedly believes he’s innocent.
@@JackieOlanternI agree.
Facts not one child but 3
It’s not in my personal character I would hand over all my kids devices and let them search the house warrant free. I would not pay for a fancy lawyer and let them get a state appointed one but my mother would be 100% worse than this woman and I can empathise and understand ❤
I'm a stepmother who protected my stepson at age 13 when detectives were trying get him to confess to a crime. I've always told all my kids, you get ONE get out of jail free card unless it's for drunk driving or kiddie diddling... then call someone else.
I saved my stepson but at what cost. He went on to rack up many traffic tickets, several misdemeanors, contempt of court, failure to appear, probation, probation violations, failed probation and released unsatisfactory and now his first felony. He literally violated probation his first day.
18 years now of him breaking the law and he's looking at 1-20 years in prison for a gun charge.
I'll always wonder if I made the right choice protecting him that one time because yes, he was guilty at age 13 on what they were accusing him of. Maybe had he been held accountable back then, he'd be a better, law abiding person today. Not just for society but for his 2 young children.
Yeah this one was fucking crazy. “Reaper” crying for his mama. Wasn’t crying for your mama when you was shooting a girl. Lock em up, throw away the key.
This is a typical black Mom. My mom would rather me and my siblings out in a heartbeat smh
💔 My heart breaks for you, Bruce, on the loss of your beloved son.
There are so many viewers who feel the grief you must be enduring right now.
We came to know Michael through you and although we can’t ease your pain,
may it help you to know how much people care.
A 17 year old kid my son went to school with was arrested and found guilty for murder:: he shot a grown man in broad daylight in the middle of the street . Within school limits and then left and was arrested a few blocks away . He was just found guilty and faces 25 to life.. it’s sad .. some ppl think the kids step dad put him up to it thinking because he was a juvenile at the time he wouldn’t get much time but they tried his as an adult. It’s crazy, kids shouldn’t have access to guns without supervision.!
If he was put up to then he was given the gun he didn’t just grab it. 🤦♂️
17 is old enough to know not to do a murder. Seriously zero excuse
Depends on the kids. Plenty of rural kids have access their entire lives without problems. Guns are so common they're not looked at like forbidden fruit and played with. This scenario does require two competent parents that we unfortunately lack in some places. That's the problem, not guns that have been around hundreds of years without problems.
No access to guns. Supervision or not.
@@PorkChopAChunky rural kids are just as cabale of dumb and life-altering decisions.no reason a parent cant still take their kid out hunting together ffs
I'm with the mom. 100% . Making the kid take responsibility is a good thing imo.
One of the moms had a warrant and most likely took a deal to make her son confess to soften her charge. She sent her son to prison for life to be spared albeit his charges are worse. She is the adult and was living a life of crime while raising her son who eventually followed her footsteps.
@@BlackRoyalty_Wrong mom. Rob’s mom is the one that made him take responsibility by leaving him at the station.
@@erinmarieee23 I never said a name. I said one of the moms. She had a warrant knowingly. She most likely took a deal to get her son to confess. It’s obvious
"I swear to God" is ALWAYS followed by the BIGGEST LIE imaginable
Absolutely. Especially because there is absolutely no evidence that one even exists.
Police talking to grandmother has no empathy. Telling them about their granddaughter with such attitude, as if her granddaughter is simply sleeping off somewhere.
Frank Drebin delivers bad news with more tact than that officer.
Im not sure that is the case. At that moment there were more people missing, maybe getting killed at that moment and also the killers on the run.
Whilst we all need empathy at that moment the grandmother was descending (understandably) into a blubbering wreck and the police needed information
Being direct is the best way to do that even if it sems unsympathetic, they need to make the grandmother engage in the questions they were asking
Empathy is important but sometimes that has to take a backseat for a short while
I was just about to comment this
I thought the same thing. No sense of compassion whatsoever. She sounded so callous. You can be empathetic and still get information from relatives.
My mom told us kids pretty young that if she found out we did something illegal, she’d turn us in herself. When she found out my sister stole a piece of candy, she took her to the manager to confess and return it. It set expectations for our behavior and we lived up to it. If we had been arrested, I’m still not sure if she would have taken off work, depending on the circumstances. But we also knew to ask for a lawyer. When bringing up my son, the same rules applied. I’m as proud of him as Bruce is of Michael. Keep up the good work, guys, showing folks consequences and saying don’t do the crime in the first place, so there’s no self snitching to happen, and ask for a lawyer.
Same here. When I was a kid, my mom caught me with candy I had no money for. She marched me down to the store and made me confess. I think I remember the owner made me sweep and take out trash. I never stole again. In high school girls bragged as bout stealing expensive sweaters etc. My mom would have dem anded, "WHERE'D you get that???" I've never wanted to steal either 😮😮 my folks didn't allow lying g or "fibbing " either. They never were drunk or mean, rude, or violent either!!
My sister and I were good kids but our parents always told us that if we did something criminal we better hope that the authorities get us first. We’d be safer with the government than either them. Knowing our parents it would have been true they wouldn’t have put up with this crap.
To all the ones saying stick up for your kid at all costs. Guess what with having parents like ours we knew to keep our selves clean. We both turned out great I’m a hairstylist and my sister’s a journalist.
So parents need to stop making excuses and hold their kids accountable when they do wrong.
@CLR Bruce Rivers Sending love and prayers to you and your family. I just heard of Michael's unexpected passing. Such an unimaginable and tremendous loss. 😢❤
Was heart breaking to hear that three-five's mom was going to go to jail after the interrogation was over and that she turned herself in to be with her son during his interrogation knowing she had a warrant. That is true love of someone. It's shameful that these boys/young men didn't share that love they got in their life towards others. Cases like these are why we have the death penalty. This was 3 cases of executions that happened and no remorse for any of it except the consequences.
All they moms should go to jail....💯
Boys, they are all minors.
It is boggling my mind that a 12 year old can calmly talk about this after seeing 2 people shot inside the car he was in. TWELVE?
It could be that he's in shock. What gets to me more is that his parents didn't have the gun locked away
You're making the assumption that people are all the same, react the same and have the same ability to feel/express complex emotions just like you. That's just not true for a large portion of our population now.
Young people have telegram where they watch torture from Isis, Russia, iran and gangs. That ain't conducive to future good.
TV & Movies & Gaming desensitize.
I though he was in his 30s he looks old af
The female cop informing the grandfather did a horrible job. She had no compassion and confusing in what she was saying. Then got frustrated at the grandfather when he didn’t understand.
I agree with you. She showed no empathy and there was no compassion in her voice. I’m surprised no one spoke on that.
“Well… at least Grandma’s got her sh!t together!” 😂😂😂
Grand dad Bronson is getting his turtle neck on
She uses eForms.
To be fair, at least judging from the sound clips in the video, the cops could have been a lot more gentle about communicating the bad news - they were being very blunt to a woman who's clearly in distress.
I got a good laugh out of that, but Jesus christ.. I'd have the same reaction if someone told me my dog had been shot, I can't even imagine what I would do if I found out about my child in the way that officer broke the news.. I might have charged at the officer and "gone for" their weapon hoping they're a fast enough draw so the full reality and grief never hit me.
I saw a video on a site a year ago where 2 teenage girls were in a makeup closet recording a video of themselves playing with a gun. The gun went off and shot one of them in the head and she dropped instantly, and the one that was holding it when it went off shot herself immediately after she realized what happened. There were maybe 2 seconds between shots if that. I don't think she even thought about it, as it looked like she did it out of straight reflex.
EDIT: I searched the incident and it happened in 2022 in St. Louis. The girls found a pistol during a family party and were live on Instagram. There 3 seconds between 2 shots, and only 8 seconds between the 2nd shot and their family finding them. In less than 11 seconds they went from having a fun family get together to it being the most tragic day that they will ever have.
They were 12 and 14. What an absolutely senseless tragedy that was.
Screaming / Raging at me as a kid (born 1972) was normal in my life growing up. Daily
I never thought of hurting anyone but myself.
Each person is different. Raging/invalidating environments yields different results👀
@ yep
My father chased me out of the house with a knife, I had to jump through the window at 16. 'For what' someone might ask, coming in 15 minutes late. That's just one scenario, there was plenty more. I loved my father with all my heart. Life is what it is, we learn to deal with it and move on.
Yeah. I hear ya.
@ I am sorry you had to deal with such terror.
Plenty more for me as well however they are our parents & our version of love gets skewed. Agree we learn to adapt & for some are better parents now. Hugs
I have told my son, Don't ever speak to the police without a lawyer present; tell them you want a lawyer. Period. His dad is a cop and has told him the same thing.
My godmother is a circuit court judge , she said never say a word to a police officer. Ever!
I really hope you have told your son to NEVER break the law as well.
That goes without saying lol
We tell ours kids the same.
The grandparent howling was just so heartbreaking, seriously it was haunting.
Very well said Bruce, you never fail to make me laugh. Love the banter between Michael and yourself, I bet your content genius has lots of hilarious stories.
Watching from Australia 🇦🇺
I told my coworkers about CLR. I clean a courthouse for a living. Glutton for punishment as i listen to you while i clean courtrooms.
Thanks for keeping those wheels of civilization oiled up and running cleanly!
@Brasbu my pleasure and thank you so much!
So, what did you think of the Sarah Boone trial?... How everyone handling the suitcase in the courtroom had to wear gloves, yet they dragged that said suitcase all over the courtroom floor. 😂😂 Are the floors that clean?😂
I just noticed your youtube user name. Ah, makes sense *light bulb moment * anyway, thank you for keeping these spaces clean/pristine. Justice isn't always perfect, but. I must say the courtrooms always seem to be ;)
@@kookietherapy9398 my floors are very clean and especially high profile cases like hers makes me think that the custodian/janitor had really worked hard on the courtroom to get it ready for trial and cameras. Carpet was probably shampooed and vacuumed every night.
Sending love to you and your family, Bruce. 🙏😢 so sorry. Hats off to the Content Genius ❤️❤️
Can't stand listening to a murderer cry about their life being over. It's not. Your victim's life is. At least you get to say "goodbye" to your mom.
She ran away, she wasn’t trying to talk to her mom 😂 nice try tho. Ease up, he’s 12
This mom is legit... id rather have my kid be honest and face the consequences of their actions than reinforce their bad behavior by getting them out of trouble. I love you enough to allow you to learn and grow.
Absolutely
No because it isn't like the cops are going to charge him with what he is ACTUALLY responsible for. THEY aren't going to be honest. They will try to nail him to the cross, so yeah, she should follow the legal process - ask for a lawyer and help her son face his consequences later.
@@normaforsyth7950just get a lawyer ive been through the system. Being honest doesnt get you less time talkin to the cops doesnt get you out of jail that night
Yep! People wonder why so many adults act the way they do and it's because their parents always bailed them out of every bad situation they put themselves in. I would have told him good luck and talk to your public defender. I don't want a triple murderer around me at all that's pure evil! How can you sleep in your home with someone like that in the other room?
Exactly my mom always told my sister and I that her and our dad weren’t there to be our friends they were there to be our parents and to mentor us and make sure we were ready for the next stage in life. She would tell us that if we ever got ourselves in legal trouble that we’d be safer with the government than then with them. Trust me that was a cold hard fact.
Guess what my sister and I turned out great I’m a hairstylist stylist and she’s a journalist. Except for the other year when her and I visited Alchatrez in San Francisco for vacation. We never spent a second of our lives in a prison.
BRUCE please keep going with the channel because we love you. Your sweet son would want you to!❤❤❤
Why criticize the mom for screaming? I can't imagine everything she must have felt in those moments.
The grandparent in the beginning just broke my heart .
Yes, but the police officer is soulless.
“Without him, I’m nothing” Devastating words to hear after learning of Michael’s passing. I just can’t believe it. I’m so so so sad for this man.
I almost cried when he said it, knowing about Michael's passing. So sad.
The mom should tell her son since he doesn’t want to cooperate he’s on his own because she has to go to work. Tough love! It’s pointless to keep trying to help someone if they won’t help themselves even when it’s your kid
I read something once that said something to the effect that even god helps those that helps themselves. I don't know if thats true or not but it makes sense to me..
REALLY? You advise we abandon our kids? Just leave them with cops that work for the district attny?
I hope you don't have children, if u do, looks like you care more about money than your child. Disgusting.
@@amusedBYfoolsWho’s going to pay for their attorney without money? The roof over there head if they’re able to get home? Food on their table- or put money in their books? That mom was doing everything she could. She’d been missing a lot of work already to be in that same position MULTIPLE TIMES because her son CHOSE to hang around bad people.
@@amusedBYfools No, the poster did not advise that.
@ I’m looking at it from the point of view of an almost adult repeatedly getting in trouble. A kid that even though she’s screaming at him he doesn’t want to snitch. My brother kept getting in trouble and my dad bailed him out the first time. The next time he got in trouble my dad didn’t help. Eventually my brother got himself straight. Got his GED, went to college, and now has a good paying job. Constantly bailing kids out of their problems doesn’t teach them anything
Thats a mom who shows she feels the pain of the deceased loved ones. I hope I could be the mom like her. He is 17, treat him like an adult.
So sorry. To hear of Michael s sudden passing. Bruce
Bruce blessin us with the hour and a half 🙏🙏🙏
Each redrum gets 30mins each.😂
Any parent would yell at their kid under that circumstance
That's why parents shouldn't be there.
So sorry to hesr about Michael ... sending love from Scotland... RIP Michael ❤️
When I was 12 I was still playing with dolls. 😭
I just love how much more junior is engaged with the camera and us now
I don't.
Yeah tbh I’m not a fan either. Wish him well but Bruce is the personality for a reason, behind the scenes shots are kind of awkward.
@@PolliwogPartyhow??? Like whag
@@PolliwogPartyI’m not trying to be mean.. but- I do find myself “fast forwarding” past the father - son chatter/banter. I feel like Michael is “putting on”.. it feels awkward, anxious, nervous- and fake. If he would just relax- and be himself (you can’t convince me that’s his natural personality..) it wouldn’t be so hard to watch/listen to.
I’m not a mean spirited person.. I actually LIKE to hear Bruce curse, because that’s clearly how he talks. I cuss like a sailor and trucker in a locker room..
regardless, I’m just saying- the *content genius* BTS are cringey 😬.
@@Wrldisyoursit’s not malicious… it’s just- it feels “put on”. For me specifically, it’s just hard to watch… I don’t like skipping through videos bc I want creators to get paid- especially bc I have premium- so there’s no ad revenue from me- but I wouldn’t mind watching them if Michael could just be himself. His nervousness is so intense that I can FEEL it through the camera. I don’t think he should stop doing it- I just wish he’d be a little more natural.
My Christian neighbour had only one son and he turned out to be a devil child.
After putting up with him and his stress for years she finally cut all ties and never let him back into her life.
It was a choice between living or letting him slowly stress and kill her.
"Show me your friends and I'll know who YOU are".
That's why I have no friends, just colleagues; finding good folks is hard.
If I ever have kids their friends will be White or Asian.
I love how proud you are of what you & your son do together 🥰 wish you guys nothing but the best in life
I am SO SORRY to hear of your loss. Losing a child is a parents worst nightmare. 😢
This is literally my neighborhood! My bestie lives just a few houses down and heard the shots!
This place was heaven when we moved out here in 2008. Ive fished and swam in that lake. Raised my daughter on a mini farm selling & delivering chicken eggs to neighbors. Didnt have to lock doors, could go outside at night, everyone knew eachother and helped eachother. We had yearly potlucks. our kids were out here hunting, boating, cruising on golf carts to enjoy the animals, fishing, and helping neighbors. Now you cant even walk down the street.
Idiots come out here 4-wheeling and shooting guns for fun. Tearing up and destroying the woods, trails, and what used to be clear & clean spring fed lakes. Destroying a literal paradise and running off all the animals. Its absolutely insane.
Where's this?
@kookietherapy9398 Ocklawaha, florida
@@adriennef4637 I was thinking Illinois, certainly not Florida. Thanks.
The secret beautiful places don't last long. Viruses spread.
So sorry about your town. I hope you are all able to bring back the good atmosphere.
A 12 year old kid nicknamed 3-5 is hilarious 😂 Definitely a self given nickname 🤣
Actually I respect these moms BECAUSE you can tell they’ve been teaching the sons right and wrong for a long time but they still keep choosing wrong and they’re tired of it
except the mom who’s was arrested because of a warrant for possession of meth and cocaine 😂
My parents were the most honorable people I ever knew. Believe me, they didn't "have my back" if I did anything wrong. And that is why I respected them so very much. Honor is dead these days. If you think helping murderers get back on the street to victimize more people, well, good for you, but luckily there are enough honorable people out there willing to do what's right.
💯 assures me seeing like minded ppl
I am loving 🥰 this channel! I love the fact it’s a father and son working together to educate us to stop self snitching if we ever find ourselves in a legal situation. Thank you gentlemen! ❤
I just have the utmost respect for you, Bruce. The response you answered about defending a 100% guilty man is the best ever. If I ever get in trouble, you are hired.
I bet that the victims thought that they were all friends.
Man... kids killing kids is just awful...
Rest in peace Michael Rivers. I'm so sorry for your loss Mr. Bruce Rivers. You two will always be a great duo.
One of the most disturbing videos so far with the audio of the grandma
And the other parents
At 12, I was fostering dogs and cats. We would socialize and train them, then place them in their forever homes. I wasn't doing anything like this. I got into trouble with friends, but not this kind of trouble. 😮
The worst thing I got caught doing was at 17. We were trespassing on an older man's field, listening to rock n roll, climbing on hay bales. 😆
@goatbabe0666 Oh yes! By highschool, everyone knew where to have parties. We would play on the hay bales until a snake crawled into some girl's clothes 😅. We don't have many poisonous snakes here. One may make people sick. Have some rattle snakes, but not usually in farm fields. Rural areas, trespassing is a real thing, but not the worst thing.
Oh, Bruce and family. My condelonces. May your rest in peace, Michael, the forever content genius.
I know it’s been a while, but I’m so glad your son has joined the videos. It’s good to see who you’re talking about and used to have such good report
"When one or more of you little fuckers are going out with guns we worry, we worry, we worry." paraphrased.
Spoken like a good dad.
Then demand for better gun laws. Why are you the only country in the civilized world that always needs to have guns, they bring nothing but misery. Demand better from your law makers. Who in their right mind thinks open carry is good for everyone involved? Only your law makers.
Everyone should have guns and you’re wrong if you think otherwise
@prevosfr if Altima Americans Americans were considered there own country they would commit more firearm violence than population of Finland,Norway, Sweden ,nz,Australia and yte and Lat Americans combined both at net level and per cap adjustment
@@TarezpNg-wn7zd60% percent of gun violence is suicide unfortunately 😔
@@prevosfr I don't know what to tell you bud. I own guns and have never had to point them at a person.
Bruce, I just learned of the passing of Michael. I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. Sending all the love and support to you and your family. ❤
It's a challenging question whether parents should "have your back" or they should be holding you responsible for your actions. Maybe it depends on the circumstances. But loyalty should not supercede morality, in my opinion.
I think I agree and I say think not because I’m a monster but because I’m not a mother who birthed a child so I can only imagine the loyalty you’d have for what you’ve created so it must be really hard to try and separate the two things ukno .. really bad situation to be in as a parent
That mom is a stone cold prosecutor. She can interrogate the hell out of anyone
The DA need too hire that woman
Bruce I am so sorry. How does one cope under such awful circumstances. My thoughts are with you.
My greatest fear for one of my grandsons is not that he does something this heinous, but that he's with someone or a few of friends when something horribly wrong goes down. I tell him over and over "Just shut up. Don't say anything about ANYTHING. Ask for a lawyer. Please listen to me. I don't care if you're innocent or not. Just shut up. "
All my teen son does is stay home and play video games and I still tell him this.
My grandmother never felt the need to tell me something like that.
If you think you have to your grandson appears to be on a very bad path and you would be playing along by not addressing the real problem.
@Celisar1 - I am worried sick about his "path" and I have been tossed out of my sons home for chastising the kid as he grew up. I cant remember how many times I have been told "This is our home. Not yours. Be nice or don't come in.!" Now, please keep in mind I was a foster parent for 25+ years, helped 92 children seek shelter from their storm. 6 of them wanted to stay, so I adopted them. I raised 10 children into adults. Good adults. All 10 graduated high school even my Down Syndrome son. 5 went into the military and one of my sons that entered the US Navy became a SEAL.He was wounded in Panama and retired. Both of my Marines came home , one missing a leg, and both ARMY guys came home. My children have never been 8nside a joil and with the exception of being adopted never been in a courtroom. So I must be doing something right.
Having worked with adolescents for over 25 years, which I began in 1993 as a youth outreach counselor on the west side of Chicago. Growing up on the south side of Chicago I was very familiar with gangs and losing a lot of family and friends to gang violence. The gang violence today has gotten worse and these lost young people (boys & girls) don’t stand a chance.
WE as ADULTS are mostly to blame!!! I say we because it truly takes a village to raise healthy children.
It’s not one issue that’s the problem, there are many layered issues that have gone unaddressed/unresolved for generations. Things progressively get worse with each generation and will continue to get worse until we start making the necessary changes to fix them. This is completely the responsibility of the adults in our society. IMO here are a few things: Adults make the decisions on what movies, music and social media..etc that will publicize to the public. Adults set the examples of how children should behave. What kind of behavior are we showing our children? The “do as I say not as I do” doesn’t work! The educational system needs to be overhauled. We need to bring back some social programs and add additional programs that will help our youth. Like summer job programs, after school programs and athletics programs that are no to low cost. We need to take bringing children into this world much more seriously and have a better understanding of what that all involves. We need to understand how selling and consuming drugs affects us all in the present and future. I’ll stop here but there a lot more to list. We have to exhibit better behavior for our children to be better humans.
America has a massive problem with firearms.
First, we need stop having kids with criminals.
Secondly, both parents need to move out the hood so the kids don't have to see violence on the regular.
Just hearing about your son😢I completely enjoyed the interactions between you both. The loss of a child is unimaginable. Please know many of us are thinking about you and your family. ❤🙏
This was an emotional one. A death of a child/grandchild could break a heart. Got to be the worst pain
The 12 yr old doesn’t think beyond himself. He’s not thinking about his mother missing work, possibly losing her job and how all that “adult stuff” will affect his siblings. I wouldn’t be yelling but I’d get him a lawyer and make him tell the lawyer the truth so he’d at least have a chance in court. Police want justice for the victims and their families. The kid should serve time for his stupidity but probably not life. He needs a second chance. But if he messes up again…bye!
I’m so sorry for your loss Bruce, I know Michael was the centre of your life. You love him & you celebrated his interests & talents. I hope that can bring you some solace, you gave him a good life 🫂
He needs a lawyer, not his mother.
Exactly. Whether they did it or not, defendants deserve competent representation, and in this case, I don't think that your mom yelling at you and interrogating you along with the police is that. It's hard to feel sympathy for this kid, but at the same time, unless he's a complete psycho, he didn't get this way on his own.
Stupid impulsive mother just helped the cops get him lofe
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He needs god !!
His mother needs a lawyer too 😈💯
The female police officer could have been a bit more empathetic! The grandmas already wailing and asked where her granddaughter was shot. For the officer to say “she was shot in the head” all upbeat and quickly. Who trained her! Wtf. Unbelievably cold.
Wouldn't sh6 be perfect for Grandmother of the year?? I think NOT!!😮😢
Damn you could be empathetic and not watch someone be vulnerable in a bad time, or wailing their heart out! Or even better- you could report the office if it was so bad, yet you won't. You'll just virtue signal
@@lady_id.dixiet_dixtI see you have problems with empathy too.
Are you going to dump on that father too?
@@thevalorousdong7675 I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say…?
Man i just heard about Michael i am so sorry Bruce. Big love to your family and friends xx 😢❤
I'd be WAY more afraid of that mom than I would be any police detective!