Exploiting Pattern Recognition to print INFINITELY!?
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- In this video I show how I use the pattern recognition tool I made with LabVIEW to generate a looping Gcode. With this tool it's easy to find patterns in Gcodes which you can use to let this Creality CR-30/Naomi Wu's 3DPrintMill run forever! Or until your filament runs out. In that case, check 3D4Makers www.3d4makers.com/ and get 10% off of all purchases by using the promo code properprinting
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0:00 Intro
1:49 Finding patterns
4:00 Proper Pattern Recognizer
8:03 First try
9:21 Outro
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Hi everyone! If you have any suggestions for this software or some designs with cool patterns to try, leave a comment! I just pushed this software to the development branch of the Proper Printer Controller github.com/properprinting/PPC/tree/development
^quite sad that this is just a design stolen by the chinese. Always sad to the some of the real makers get 0 kudos. /watch?v=E_RvnqVHbnA
Any idea on how to convert this tool into a Cura plugin?
@@MagicGumable What do you mean, the belt printer? That was a collaboration with the actual inventor.
@@ShuujinX No, no idea. I think it should work with Cura as well if you generate a Gcode with it. The software looks only at the G0 and G1 commands for showing those patterns and I programmed it quite universal. This needs to be verified though.
@@MagicGumable I have to disagree. Creality collaborated with me and WJSteele on their design and they had our full support. We are just happy a belt printer finally made it to mass production. Hopefully now we will see some real innovations in this style printer.
Wow awesome!
Thanks Naomi, this printer is awesome!
Awesome racks on that printer
@Coup Lab because it's her printer duh lol
@Coup Lab 0:08
Do you know ligma ?
Came for the humor and creative video, stayed for the eye-opening tricks in LabView and belt printer. I enjoy your on-camera style. So then I was REALLY hoping for an infinitely long video.
Thanks Barry! This video was a short one indeed, eventually it just went too well. This chain literally was my first and only try with this software xD
As a software developer, I can say this is one of the best videos I’ve seen in a while. Brilliant! I love it!
Thanks a lot!
Yeah right!? Just use whatever you know best and presto! Gone with the many blog posts of "what should I learn in this year" and "is this outdated?".
as a software developer, i agree with your statement.
I had no idea gcode had recursion built in.
@@properprinting My thoughts exactly
As community will grow, can't wait to see more functional applications that will use its real potential instead of just swords and props projects.
Functional applications is my jam :D I can't wait either!
Great work!!! Love the long chain(looks longer than any of the loops I’ve done). Working with Scott Lahtine to incorporate looping functionality was a game changer that I’m glad to have been a part of.
Thanks Karl! If it wasn't for your video I would have used LabVIEW itself to control the printer to loop. I'm so glad I found it, so much easier! Cool that you've worked together with Marlin on this
As a novice programmer in Python and a couple of other languages, seeing innovations like this keeps me inspired. We need to get you more subscribers. Your style never ceases to make me laugh. Keep it up, man, you're doing fantastic.
Thank you! Awesome that you're a Python programmer! I always wanted to do something with Python, for instance combining Gcode with scripting in Blender and animate a 3D printer, but I have too many other things. I'm glad I can make anything with LabVIEW and that it's free now ;) I'm happy to read that I inspired you!
@@properprinting LabVIEW is horrible ...
Glad my video helped, thanks for the shout-out!
This is very cool work. When I added M808 to Marlin Firmware I was thinking specifically about the belt printer and objects like infinite chains, but M808 would make sense even for simple objects on a regular printer, reducing all kinds of file sizes, as long as repetitive areas can be identified and wrapped up into loops with relative motion.
Exactly!
Run the X, Y, Z, E plots through FFT and take the lowest common frequency peak from the results. This should tell you the exact period of the repetition.
That's an interesting approach! If you have the frequency, the position itself doesn't matter much as long as it's within the repetitive part of the file. I was hoping that I'd be able to pull it off with peak or valley detection and came quite close :D Thanks for this insight!
That's what I was going to suggest. FFT is Fast Fourier Transform for those that want to research further.
the editing is gnarly and fantastic. i’m glad you won that competition
Thank you!
Dude your production quality is no joke well done loving how the channel is going good work
Perfect, now you just need to feed the chain into a filament recycling grinder and hook that up the printer intake and then it's truly infinite
Best 3D printing UA-camr hands down. I take mushrooms to solve complex problems too.
Hahaha xD Thanks Stephen!
I just had a workout and a beer, that also is quite spacy actually. :)
@@VincentGroenewold hahahaha no. It isn’t.
LOVE IT! I love your ideas, experiments, videos and humor. I bought your low profile power supply bracket model for Ender 3. Printed it on my Phrozen Mighty 4K. The result was millimeter precise, fit like a glove and looks great. Plus, it made my Ender more stable which improved the print quality. Keep up the amazing work.
Awesome! I'm glad that it worked out for you so well!
Your tenacity is unwavering !
DUDE!! you just always make my day brighter with your awesome tech loaded up with funny silliness~ love it!
Just shows that when there is a will there is a way! Bravo!!!
man you need more subs!!! This is awesome. Great tips with Labview, that looks really powerful!
Thanks! Anything can be done within LabVIEW ;) Even if not, you can create a dll which will do the work for you and call that within LabVIEW, powerful indeed!
Again, you are a brilliant LabView mastermind ;) Awesome project, great filming/editing :D
Thanks Max!!
I love your unique style of content making on top of another great innovation in the additive manufacturing world my friend !!! Ty for your stuf ! 🙏🏻👌
I love the effort you put into this video, more people need to see your content, hope you get a lot more viewers. Good job for going above and byond
How have I not come across this channel before! TOP work sir !
Youre a genius! Actually on of the best videos i have ever seen, so sick!
Love it. The process is great. Thanks for sharing!
Very clever, and I love your editing style/humor
Oh, man, this had me LOL'ing! This is only the second video of yours that I've watched, but you've got a new subscriber now.
Your channel is absolute gold. Love the cadence in your speaking.
Technical creativity at it's best
Proper Pattern Recognizer© luv it. Dude you're an inspiration.
Thank you for HQ content. I'm always looking forward when my proper Bell rings ;)
Finally an interesting video on the treadmill! You never disappoint! Kartoffelsalat! 😉
Sehr gut! xD
Seeing you rack your brain on infinite length at the beginning with fusion and the SD card, that cracked me up. Much love!
Nice video! Now you've given me an excuse to get my cr30 cleaned up and working again. Thanks 😊
As a programmer, my immediate thought was G-code recursion. While recursion itself isn't actually necessary, the looping code accomplishes the same thing, including the break loop command. Basically you just need to find the start of printing a recurring pattern of 2 links and when the 2 links are finished, tell the machine to "go to" the line of code at the beginning of the 2 links again. This is obviously what you accomplished with the M808 command. Could be done with any print that repeats by just knowing the begin and end points of a looping segment. Very cool!
That was my immediate thought too! Turns out that there are minute differences on that level. Different starting points and an infill pattern or support structure that doesn't line up for instance, makes it impossible to find recurring patterns on that abstraction level. Therefore I added an abstraction level that shows the pattern. This probably can be automated using a Fourier transform to find the base frequency. It doesn't really matter where the loop starts as long as it's somewhere in the middle and at the right length. Another difficult part is to make it work with other designs too, not just a chain. Therefore I decided to make an interface where it's easy for a human to find the pattern instead of fully automating it with all variables involved. Thanks!
@@properprinting Extremely cool stuff man. I've been binge watching all your videos. In the middle of the experimental belt extruder vid now!
@@802Garage awesome! Thanks for watching them!
This is my new favorite video of yours!
Best 3D printing video I have ever seen... this guy made a deep research in those topics... I could contract him as a researcher...
Hey my guy, congrats! Your my new fav channel
wow, the production quality and camerawork has skyrocketed! that first plane of yourself talking looks SO GOOD!
Thank you! I tried something different this time and I'm very happy to receive this comment!
Fantastische video! Je blijft jezelf overtreffen en teruggeven aan de community, heel inspirerend.
Your humor is awesome!
Also can't wait till people start competing for the world record for longest continual 3d print.
very nice editing! i love your videos!
I couldn’t stop LOLing within the first minute of this video. Love this guy
Print a Base guitar to compete with Davie504 😉
Btw, your LabView skills are excellent! 😎
I would get owned haha😂 I have an awesome collab for this idea coming up though ;) Thanks!!
@@properprinting If You want to print bass guitar Yo can use my project ua-cam.com/video/cs7vTnqrsN8/v-deo.html :)
@@TomekUoo That's awesome, thanks! First time I've seen someone printing the neck as well. Did you come across 3D printed necks? I want to make a 3D printed regular guitar and I'm wondering if a 3D printed neck can cope with the tension of the strings.
Man you are a genies, cant wait to see you next video, keep it up.
This was brilliant..kudos!
We never know quite where you intend taking us, but it is inevitably a fascinating journey... or do I mean "trip"?
I don't know either, I'll just be guided xD
MY NEW FAVOURITE UA-camR!!
Amazing work
I would love to see the whole contraption running for as long as it can, being resupplied with plastic and all streamed on youtube or twitch up untill it would just fail.
You are awesome creator the best in 3d printing at UA-cam. The reason why I like watching your videos is that you’re trying something new no one did it or you doing that in other way “Proper” way
Thank you!!
How has this channel not got more subs? The content is awesome and he's hilarious!! 🤣
Amazing work🔥💕👌👍
I was about to say that with infinite loop the ending gcode is needless. But then there is the option to end the infinite loop manually from the printer. And there's possibility to define how many times the loop should repeat so you can exact number of chain links every time. Cool.
Interesting problem to solve. Great video!
this is really cool, definitely subscribing!
Awesome, thank you!
I'm not sure why but I f'n love you man!!!
Just found your channel...Awesome content! This is going big, i bet.
Thank you! I hope so! :D
good job as always I'm astounded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your channel is different in the way that it doesnt just show the printer and some add ons but you also show the capabilities are endless and i love it to the sky and back (also you have mad brain so you make it work as well)
and its not even just that the fact you give more to this community than you take is not just rare but also just a lovely move
Thanks a lot Chris for this nice comment :)
A very cool way to let the human brain recognize (and select) the "Proper Pattern". This is similar to audio editing and making a loop, etc. See the wave forms! Totally Awesome (as usual)
It indeed is so similar to looping music! I'm glad I decided to focus on making the loop itself easy to recognize for a human instead of trying to automate it. With this approach it eventually becomes easier to automate ;)
You could try calculating the autocorrelation of one of your x-move, y-move or extruded signals to get the frequency of the g-code commands. Getting the phase right will still require some labour with your program though.
LabVIEW has signal analysis built into it and I think that this is indeed the way to go to fully automate it!
fine work as always.
Nice video! Makes me want to design something that could get extended for ever!
If anyone can than it'll be you ;)
@@properprinting haha, I'll try to come up with something fun :D
Peak F'n Content. Awesome sir.
Just a quick idea: turn text to numbers then you have a perfect mumbo-jumbo number for each line. Cross corelate the lines (numbers) and you see a peak at each repetition to a perfect line assignment. I think this can be done in less than 20 lines of code.
For interested ones: the random numbers acutally help the cross corelation to distinguish perfect sections and you should get very sharp peaks, where the code repeats.
Super entertaining and interesting video. You go all out. Mahalo for sharing! : )
This gives endless possibilities.
Infinite in fact ;)
This, this is great!!!
Absolutely incredible! Also a 3d printed guitar would be so freaking sick
Thanks! I can't wait to start with that!
I just hit the like button when I open the video... And I never go back 👍🏻😎
Gast wat top dat je niet opgeeft! Ge-wel-dig!!!
Complimenten voor nice content, groetjes uit t midden van t land.
Bedankt! Soms moet je ff doorpakken ;)
Awesome video
Ive watched it all now WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW thats cool.
I was infinitely entertained.
Geweldig dit man!!
Great video as usual. Thank you for introducing LabView. Instructive, helpful and entertaining (in the positively meaning). Soundracks are awesome. Are they your very own compositions?
I'd tackle this problem by using the information you have at 6:11, and doing frequency analysis on it. The repeating pattern should show up as the lowest large frequency spike. This frequency can then be used to fashion a 'window' length.
Next we can use this known window length and do cross-correlation. Start by doing a cross-correlation with the window starting at layer 1, over the whole signal. Take RMS of all the shifts inside the cross-correlation as a measure as to the performance of the current window. Then shift the window to layer 2, and again do cross-correlation. This should allow you to detect the beginning of the repeating pattern automagically, so you just pick this as the start of the window and voila, you have singulated your pattern.
Anyways, that is how I'd try to automate this. If you have tried it, I am curious as to why it wouldn't work.
love it!
Excellent!
Very cool, good fun!
Very cool!
Well done!!
Thanks Alex!
A Labview programmer in the wild! There must be literally dozens of us!
I really like using it! What kinds of applications do you make in LabVIEW?
@@properprinting I use it at work to develop control systems and various engineering/analysis applications. It's honestly great once you break through the barrier and start thinking of everything in terms of clusters of arrays of clusters. At home I made an inventory management application, among other things. How about you? The g-code visualization was really cool!
@@proskub5039 that's awesome! You can make a mess out of it easily without using clusters xD I use it at work too. I developed a test sequencer with the Actor Framework to test PCB's automatically. It consists of two executables, the framework and actual test program. I now mostly write the actual test programs. Cool that you've created your own inventory management system!
With this command you can also print infinitely the same single objects if you got a home production line of mostly the same objects
I've seen this before but I never realized you could use it to print a massive chain.
Your a gun. Best printing videos. Keep it up
Epic! off the chain!
Cool! Sounds like autocorrelation might be helpful for an even better pattern recognizer.
That's an interesting subject I never heard of, thanks for bringing this up!
loved this made me laugh a lot. Keep up the great content.
This video is deeeeeeeeeeeeeep! Love it. ♾
Man, as always, amazing video!!! I still don't understand how your program is making these graph, but if it works, it's amazing !! Have you tried it with some other designs yet ?
Thanks! I only have imported that chainmail which looks very promising. I think I'll try that soon!
Fantastic :D
That's pretty smart 👍✌
Thank you Richard!
Excellent, interesting subject and very entertaining 8-)
I was hoping you would get one. I bought 3 of them a few months ago and I've been looking forward to seeing what modifications you'll do to it. I got it printing TPU at 60mms with a ezr extruder from seemecnc. But the bed adhesion was terrible until I shimmed the two center posts under the heated bed with a washer.
Hyped for the airsoft gun build, can't wait!
ahah love the vids man keep it up. keep lookin for patterns
You crazy guy from Netherlands mann. Greetinx from Germany
This could be interesting combined with a Palette from Mosaic and using it to chain multiple spools together on the fly... as long as you have filament rolls to replace the spent ones you could do a VERY long chain... :)
I wonder if there’s a world record for the longest continuous 3d printed chain?? I sure a man of your skills could come up with a way to run between 2 filament rolls so you could swap one out while it’s still printing? Might be worth looking into?