This weeks lay out of events across NA really displayed not only the vast amount of top players but also made me realize the same for commentators. Crazy good weekend for smash content
Oh, wow! I didn't expect my art to get featured in an actual episode! Thank you so much; that made my day! The other art pieces are really amazing too! I'll have to step up my game if/when I make another one to compete with those! 😉 Also, since no one pushed back on the comment I made in the art tweet about Shadow Flare being a top 5 move, I've chosen to interpret that to mean that everyone agrees with me. 😎
Its needs to be said more that Marss is one of the best players with items. Him grabbing the banana and even peanuts is so sick. Its one of the only reasons he’s able to make ZSS vs Diddy look so even.
Leo may not have optimized everything for Aegis yet, but his foresight usage this tournament was really eye opening. I genuinely think that without optimizing foresight, Aegis is top 10 at best. Leo really show how this character is top 3 in the right hands
It's so cool to watch. There are other great Aegis players out there (viz., Sparg0, Shuton, and Cosmos), but I haven't seen any of them use foresight to the degree that MkLeo can and does. IMO it's been like this since last summer, when Leo started getting serious about Aegis around COLOSSEL 2022 and thereabouts. Something that makes his Aegis noticeably different.
I love hearing them talk about players. The marss segment brings back memories of the past, when he was really popping off. I actually wonder if covid didn't happen, where marss would be now.
Really gotta give it up to you tweek, been a fan for a long time now and you gotta be one of the most humble players there is, i love how you talk about all the other top players with such passion and appreciation for there game, always have been & always will be my favorite smash player !! & congrats on the dub your playing insane lately 😮💨
When we talk about people who play perfect, I place Gluto at the top of that list. I don’t think anyone else is close either. His bike use carried him in Grands. It was really smart, and he almost brought it all the way back with it.
I’m glad Pink Fresh brought up Leo’s Corrin because to me, it seems like the missing part Leo needs. With the few months of him playing Corrin, he has beaten Sonic and Proto and I’m sure in his problem MUs now like Diddy, Pika, and Wario, Corrin does better than Joker and Byleth.
I think he dropped the Corrin because he lost to Maister for the first time ever using the character, and then lost to Proto the week after at Double Down. After that we never saw it again.
Yeah! I was getting ready to say this, too! His Corrin helped him in those bad match-ups a ton, especially against Sonic. No idea why he decided to drop her after winning a big major with her.
@@SeriousStriker he was on the verge of JV4ing protos lucina and even against his Min Min, Corrin wasn’t doing that bad. I think if he just adapted a little harder and learned Proto more, he could’ve done Double Down.
@@SeriousStriker ... that's strange considering that he proceeded to main Aegis after losing badly at Summit. If what you say is true, Leo truly is just more in love with Aegis.
People have this stupid idea in their heads that Leo can always beat anyone and that the ball is always in his court that when he does badly it's because he was going a lesser character to challenge himself. and when he won lud invitational they all went SEE I WAS RIGHT they gotta accept that sometimes leo just loses like any other player and the myth in their head isn't real as nice as it is. Eventually they gotta wake up to reality for the betterment of everyone
The Steve vs Sephiroth fanart was so good, Cloud was almost equally blocky in FF7 original too when it happened. Such a good reference that I think flew above many peoples head. Also I didn't even know Tweek played FF7 original, found out now. Hope he enjoyed it! My favorite game of all time not even close.
Tweek was absolutely talking when he brought up how there should be no reason Leo can't be successful using a character he likes. It's crazy that this community keeps pushing this narrative that Mk fucking Leo can't make certain characters (let alone, one of the best characters in the game) work, and needs Joker or x character to win. It feels like something people parrot a lot just because they dislike Aegis and really like other characters, but they don't actually realize how ridiculous of a claim it is. Like I'm not a big Aegis fan either and much prefer his Joker, but it always seemed lowkey disrespectful to Leo's legacy when you tell him he can't make a character work, let alone a top 3 character who also uses a sword.
I don't like Aegis either. Heck, I hate the character. I still give Leo credit where it's due. His Aegis got some power to it now that he's putting more time in the character. I just wish he did this with Corrin, who gave him a huge win in almost an instant. Oh well to the dragon girl. Aegis is here to stay, whether we like it or not.
@@SeriousStriker eh, they never really comment on Kurama for whatever reason. Spargo is close in terms of the pressure/speed but he isn't really as creative as marss when finding hits and after the hit.
Love how other top players talk about marrs. I feel like I’d rather have Tweek call me a psycho than the goat. The only player that reminds me of is marrs is niaro, just disrespectful playstyles
These people have nothing but respect for the other players, and always show the bright side of everyone man, this podcast is a shot of good energy. Thank you
I really hope I’m here next year to see you here DX I was going to go this year, but my health hasn’t been the best 😅😅 hope to be there next year tho!!
Another Tweek talks is great to see especially b/c Kawaii con and Major upset are things to talk about. Tweek’s encouraging words to Leo is also very wholesome. Aegis can work he’s just getting used to him. Thoughts on Leo’s aegis in general were interesting as well as Tweek’s improved mentality giving himself sometime to recompose before set 2 of grands. It’s also impressive how far Gluto continues to improvise the solo Wario. A lot of good sets last weekend too.
Leo’s so good. I don’t think Sparg0 and the other “up and comers” are all that better than they were when they were losing to Tweek and Leo 3 years ago. I think Leo needs like a tried and true bass line character. It could be Byleth or it could be Aegis. He could choose either one. I don’t think most people look at Aegis correctly. Mythra is like Shiek with better spacing and Pyra is a better Ike yes, but we can’t look at them as different characters with different kits. Aegis is both a better shiek and a better ike all in ONE KIT. A true aegis main would switch as fluidly as water, and it would only make sense because it worked.
I get mixed so hard when people talk about apollokage now lol, now that everyone calls him AK I just hear that and think people are talking about me lol yep I"m a household name now 🙂 also to comment on the whole MU thing, tbh I think most ultimate players just truly don't understand what MU ratios should actually represent, so they'll just say -2 because it is harder than a normal matchup lol
Idea.. host or support an in person or online tournament for the winner to earn a trip to Kawaii kon? I understand the amount of effort and money this takes, just a thought. Appreciate what yall do 🙏 and enjoy watching the podcast 🤙
he has a sword but it’s very small so it’s not even as disjointed as most of terrys moves. plus he doesn’t play like one at all. he’s not gonna zone you with his sword
Still not enthusiastic about Leo using Aegis. I guess they're just not a character I enjoy watching. Kinda sucks because I used to really enjoy watching Leo because of the characters he used. Smash is now reaching a point where a lot of the characters I don't really care for are dominating the screen. Probably might be a sign for me to move on and find another FG to get into.
No one popped off for Lima because people still dislike him for being kinda toxic. He hasn’t really gotten better in terms of being toxic and he posted all this racist tweets before.
Oh love it when he plays aegis since it means others will win more often. Everyone might very well have caught up to Leo in skill but I love when aegis donates a stock via gimp in top level competition.
Leo's won 25 majors, acola's won 9. Leo's also been #1 throughout 2019 all the way until this year, acola's only #1 so far for this season. Leo's the GOAT and it's not close, and acola isn't even the 2nd greatest player of all time because that's Tweek. Edit: Just realized you're a troll. Please stop posting.
My guy, you didn't even try to make this insult interesting. "Lame MKLeo" instead of "MKLamo?" If I was Leo, I'd find this insult comment disappointing simply because it had no effort. Plus, you have a Kazuya profile picture... Real talk though, Leo has WAY more results than Acola. In no way is MKLeo lame in any way. Stop trolling, bruh.
@@SeriousStriker the minor dated him not the other way around, they never did anything physical, and said minor is a known sexual predator and abusive person
Marss has a brilliant mind for smash. Congrats on the win, was impressive the way you bounced back after losing 4 straight.
Marss is actually a genius
Never forget about how Marss beat Dark Wizzy in the Mario ditto on Yoshi's
Please I can’t find it. I must watch
WHAT
Dark Wizzy is bad in the Mario ditto tbf. Still incredibly impressive though.
I wish the mute marss warm up was recorded. That sounds hilarious
I would love more haz heckles every once and awhile tbh
😊😅😅😊😊😊😅😊😊😅😊😊😊😮😮😮
No, only in april
@@DonkEssb no cuz i have no money
Monthly epp would be good
Ima need pink panders
So many great tournaments last weekend with loads of amazing talent being showcased. Glad you had fun in Hawaii Tweek, congrats on the win!
This weeks lay out of events across NA really displayed not only the vast amount of top players but also made me realize the same for commentators. Crazy good weekend for smash content
Oh, wow! I didn't expect my art to get featured in an actual episode! Thank you so much; that made my day! The other art pieces are really amazing too! I'll have to step up my game if/when I make another one to compete with those! 😉
Also, since no one pushed back on the comment I made in the art tweet about Shadow Flare being a top 5 move, I've chosen to interpret that to mean that everyone agrees with me. 😎
Love the Tweek heartfelt pep talk for Leo
Its needs to be said more that Marss is one of the best players with items. Him grabbing the banana and even peanuts is so sick. Its one of the only reasons he’s able to make ZSS vs Diddy look so even.
Leo may not have optimized everything for Aegis yet, but his foresight usage this tournament was really eye opening. I genuinely think that without optimizing foresight, Aegis is top 10 at best. Leo really show how this character is top 3 in the right hands
It's so cool to watch. There are other great Aegis players out there (viz., Sparg0, Shuton, and Cosmos), but I haven't seen any of them use foresight to the degree that MkLeo can and does. IMO it's been like this since last summer, when Leo started getting serious about Aegis around COLOSSEL 2022 and thereabouts. Something that makes his Aegis noticeably different.
I love hearing them talk about players. The marss segment brings back memories of the past, when he was really popping off. I actually wonder if covid didn't happen, where marss would be now.
Really gotta give it up to you tweek, been a fan for a long time now and you gotta be one of the most humble players there is, i love how you talk about all the other top players with such passion and appreciation for there game, always have been & always will be my favorite smash player !! & congrats on the dub your playing insane lately 😮💨
Tweek talks but Hawaii Harangues (I tried this week there aren’t too many H words that mean talk 😂)
A for effort my guy 😂
Hawaii hollers 💯
Hawaii Howls?
When we talk about people who play perfect, I place Gluto at the top of that list. I don’t think anyone else is close either. His bike use carried him in Grands. It was really smart, and he almost brought it all the way back with it.
I’m glad Pink Fresh brought up Leo’s Corrin because to me, it seems like the missing part Leo needs. With the few months of him playing Corrin, he has beaten Sonic and Proto and I’m sure in his problem MUs now like Diddy, Pika, and Wario, Corrin does better than Joker and Byleth.
I think he dropped the Corrin because he lost to Maister for the first time ever using the character, and then lost to Proto the week after at Double Down. After that we never saw it again.
Yeah! I was getting ready to say this, too! His Corrin helped him in those bad match-ups a ton, especially against Sonic. No idea why he decided to drop her after winning a big major with her.
@@SeriousStriker he was on the verge of JV4ing protos lucina and even against his Min Min, Corrin wasn’t doing that bad. I think if he just adapted a little harder and learned Proto more, he could’ve done Double Down.
@@SeriousStriker ... that's strange considering that he proceeded to main Aegis after losing badly at Summit. If what you say is true, Leo truly is just more in love with Aegis.
Markus has the best takes, thanks for being on the podcast
Except for marth.
People have this stupid idea in their heads that Leo can always beat anyone and that the ball is always in his court that when he does badly it's because he was going a lesser character to challenge himself. and when he won lud invitational they all went SEE I WAS RIGHT they gotta accept that sometimes leo just loses like any other player and the myth in their head isn't real as nice as it is. Eventually they gotta wake up to reality for the betterment of everyone
Yup. He's human like everyone else. To add, he admitted that he hasn't been training like usual. That allows other players to surpass him.
The way Charles was yelling POCKET WOLF IS DEAD had me dying lmaooo
The Steve vs Sephiroth fanart was so good, Cloud was almost equally blocky in FF7 original too when it happened.
Such a good reference that I think flew above many peoples head.
Also I didn't even know Tweek played FF7 original, found out now. Hope he enjoyed it! My favorite game of all time not even close.
Tweek is so fucking goated, what sportsmanship and respect this dude has it's insane
Tweek was absolutely talking when he brought up how there should be no reason Leo can't be successful using a character he likes. It's crazy that this community keeps pushing this narrative that Mk fucking Leo can't make certain characters (let alone, one of the best characters in the game) work, and needs Joker or x character to win.
It feels like something people parrot a lot just because they dislike Aegis and really like other characters, but they don't actually realize how ridiculous of a claim it is. Like I'm not a big Aegis fan either and much prefer his Joker, but it always seemed lowkey disrespectful to Leo's legacy when you tell him he can't make a character work, let alone a top 3 character who also uses a sword.
I don't like Aegis either. Heck, I hate the character. I still give Leo credit where it's due. His Aegis got some power to it now that he's putting more time in the character. I just wish he did this with Corrin, who gave him a huge win in almost an instant. Oh well to the dragon girl. Aegis is here to stay, whether we like it or not.
I remember when Leo first started going byleth he really wasn't saucing people from the beginning
I think it’s overlooked, but Lima is also an evo champion. Glad he’s still growing even though I still dislike bayo
it's overlooked because it was smash 4 bayo, let's be real 😭
tweek is right about gluto for sure, from a spectator perspective, it looks impossible to beat him once he figures his opponent out
I'd say a huge part of Marss's success is his mental. The guy doesn't really sweat. Aside from having a lot of Smash experience of course.
Shout outs to Cyclone RESPECT 💯 ✝️
shout cyclone man lol got his priorities right
I just wanna say, Kurama is definitely the closest in playstyle to marss.
Honestly it's Sparg0. Marss even said it himself on a previous podcast episode and so has Light.
@@SeriousStriker eh, they never really comment on Kurama for whatever reason. Spargo is close in terms of the pressure/speed but he isn't really as creative as marss when finding hits and after the hit.
Leo Corrin era was my favorite. Wish he would bring it back rip
Same 😔
Love how other top players talk about marrs. I feel like I’d rather have Tweek call me a psycho than the goat. The only player that reminds me of is marrs is niaro, just disrespectful playstyles
Banham Switching is the Future of Ult. I dont think thats a hot take or anything. If top players start mastering it it's up for everyone
If we don’t see another episode of Haz Heckles soon I’m protesting
Also this was a great episode. Congrats on the win Tweek! 🎉🎉🎉
These people have nothing but respect for the other players, and always show the bright side of everyone man, this podcast is a shot of good energy. Thank you
@20:00 the red banana was for the kkon staff but there was indeed red ^^
FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONS THE DISAPPEARANCE OF CORRIN.
I really hope I’m here next year to see you here DX I was going to go this year, but my health hasn’t been the best 😅😅 hope to be there next year tho!!
Another Tweek talks is great to see especially b/c Kawaii con and Major upset are things to talk about. Tweek’s encouraging words to Leo is also very wholesome. Aegis can work he’s just getting used to him. Thoughts on Leo’s aegis in general were interesting as well as Tweek’s improved mentality giving himself sometime to recompose before set 2 of grands. It’s also impressive how far Gluto continues to improvise the solo Wario. A lot of good sets last weekend too.
For the gluto thing, even leo doesn't want to play friendlies against gluto because he knows gluto learns faster than him, I find it crazy
AK is the protagonist of this season
Block is only on its own gamebreaking level with glitches included.
Had no idea Konga came back, went completely under my radar
30:34 aww look behind Pink
Leo’s so good. I don’t think Sparg0 and the other “up and comers” are all that better than they were when they were losing to Tweek and Leo 3 years ago. I think Leo needs like a tried and true bass line character. It could be Byleth or it could be Aegis. He could choose either one. I don’t think most people look at Aegis correctly. Mythra is like Shiek with better spacing and Pyra is a better Ike yes, but we can’t look at them as different characters with different kits. Aegis is both a better shiek and a better ike all in ONE KIT. A true aegis main would switch as fluidly as water, and it would only make sense because it worked.
I get mixed so hard when people talk about apollokage now lol, now that everyone calls him AK I just hear that and think people are talking about me lol
yep I"m a household name now 🙂
also to comment on the whole MU thing, tbh I think most ultimate players just truly don't understand what MU ratios should actually represent, so they'll just say -2 because it is harder than a normal matchup lol
God damn Haz, you don't need any more blenders.
Idea.. host or support an in person or online tournament for the winner to earn a trip to Kawaii kon? I understand the amount of effort and money this takes, just a thought.
Appreciate what yall do 🙏 and enjoy watching the podcast 🤙
Pink wit da fresh retwist 💪🏽💪🏽
I want to hear a full rant from Charles on Block and EGWF!!!!
AYYYYY I MISS TWEEK TALKS WB
Day one of protesting for monthly Haz Heckles episodes
Charles said Metaknight is not a sword character. Can someone explain to me what a sword character is because maybe I’m just dumb
he has a sword but it’s very small so it’s not even as disjointed as most of terrys moves. plus he doesn’t play like one at all. he’s not gonna zone you with his sword
Shoutout to Pink’s cat
The Goblin rob from AK was 🎉
Tweek Megaman when >.>
I went to Battle for the South it was so fun
I love that pinks cat is name shanx
tweek if he started icing out could be the best player in the world fr
Another week, another AK SWEEP
20:30 banana lore
Still not enthusiastic about Leo using Aegis. I guess they're just not a character I enjoy watching. Kinda sucks because I used to really enjoy watching Leo because of the characters he used. Smash is now reaching a point where a lot of the characters I don't really care for are dominating the screen. Probably might be a sign for me to move on and find another FG to get into.
Let him talk!
No one popped off for Lima because people still dislike him for being kinda toxic. He hasn’t really gotten better in terms of being toxic and he posted all this racist tweets before.
Shinx best guest
Coming up tp 100 episodes soon :D
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If Leo wants to play aegis let him. Shut up leave him alone.
Leo is a b*ch for liking Aegis
Oh love it when he plays aegis since it means others will win more often. Everyone might very well have caught up to Leo in skill but I love when aegis donates a stock via gimp in top level competition.
Marss do be an anomaly
CAT NAMED SHANKS THATS WHY PF IS MY GOAT
Go Delaware!!
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Did Leo create that pyra side b to the foot stall combo I’ve never seen that until major upset
It’s been a tech for a while but it definitely doesn’t get pulled off too frequently in tourneys, it was neat to see
I don't think he created it, but he is the only one I've seen pull it off consistently at the top level
Muting Haz heckles from my timeline tbh
Early
MKLeo, a joke with Aegis and never number 1 again
Acola is the GOAT, not lame MKLeo
Leo's won 25 majors, acola's won 9. Leo's also been #1 throughout 2019 all the way until this year, acola's only #1 so far for this season. Leo's the GOAT and it's not close, and acola isn't even the 2nd greatest player of all time because that's Tweek.
Edit: Just realized you're a troll. Please stop posting.
My guy, you didn't even try to make this insult interesting. "Lame MKLeo" instead of "MKLamo?" If I was Leo, I'd find this insult comment disappointing simply because it had no effort. Plus, you have a Kazuya profile picture...
Real talk though, Leo has WAY more results than Acola. In no way is MKLeo lame in any way. Stop trolling, bruh.
Bring back Ally!
No one played like Ally.
No. We're not allowing someone who dated minors into the Smash scene.
@@SeriousStriker the minor dated him not the other way around, they never did anything physical, and said minor is a known sexual predator and abusive person