couple of points: 1. sounds awesome, I love how the gearbox whines 2. you can hear how twitchy the engine is, can be scary sometimes,(nothing to do with the rider skill) 3. the scenery is insanely beautiful, I would love to know where it is 4. the bike is ugly from the front. lol overall this is one of the best riding videos I have ever seen, I'm glad you shared it good luck and stay safe
@@CosmicMidget Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it is not an issue. Lot of people have complains about false neutrals in other bike brands like Honda too.
Going in too hot trying to keep up with a faster rider. Never switch to agression at the expense of technique. The good racer acknowledges defeat and calmly takes second.
Couldn’t see your friend’s brake lights. Was tempted to say he was using the bikes weight and engine braking instead of brakes. But then he was even faster going down hill. So accurate and smooth I think maybe he knows all those bends off by heart rides them in his sleep. Because you know this I suggest you are subconsciously thinking about what he is doing rather than relaxing into your own ride, coupled with the poor fueling. He is riding his bike like an alpine skier on a slalom. But also his V4 has the power always to hand whereas you have to wait for the revs to climb, then immediately shut off and brake for the next bend and watch him gap you easy on the exit. Glad you posted this, I’ve learned a lot by watching this a few times and your commentary 👍👍
Thanks a lot! The V4 of my VFR has a really powerful engine brake, so I don't have to brake a lot, even downhill. And yes, I love this road and ride it at least twice a year. :)
Your friend drives the bike like a real Motogp guy amazing , same goes for you , you both fast and clean as hell , btw still checking all your videos love it
Throttle snatch can definitely be fixed, plenty of info out there on ways to reduce or eliminate it. As for looks it depends on who you ask and it seems there are a number of people like myself who like the appearance (especially the side profile).
just take your phone or - if you have - sound recorder and put it in your backpack. no windnoise at all, a little buffered but just fine as you can hear on some of my videos. so really easy free setup
God damn, watching the guy on the old RC36 in front was borderline sexual. So smooth and fast, on what is admittedly a quite heavy and old clunker. Great show! :D
Lasse J Ougaard Still one of the best bikes out there! The VFR 750 is such a smooth ride. So forgiving, so non intimidating and so easy to keep momentum on and therefore also fast! I own a couple of bikes, my quickest is a Triumph Speed Triple RS, but on most roads I think I am as fast on my VFR 750, as I am on my Speedie. The VFR is also loads more comfortable. The older VFR’s are engineering masterpieces.
The front end was designed to create downforce so that plus the extra weight for fairings is what give this bike such a planted feel . It may not be the prettiest but she has substance. The throttle is mostly smoothed by a flash and throttle tamer.
I’m glad you published this. The sound recording is awesome as always. But not every bike is to everyone’s liking. Thanks for relaying the issues you had.
I own this bike and love it the only issue is the throttle i would say its abrupt so you need to be smooth but you soon get used to that also you need the ride the bike useing the torque more rather than revs at lower speed.
think i have exact the same gsx s1000f white 2018 model. I am definitely in love with this motorcycle. The on-off throttle behavior can be adjusted, and there are always downsides. This bike has a wonderful torque and the sitting position is more than comfortable for my worn-out old back. I think the GSXS1000F is the perfect bike for me at the moment. Love the renthal bars
Your friend is smooooth as hell. He just sat there like he was sight-seeing hardly putting a knee down. I think he went faster in the corners than on the straights. I would have lost sight within three corners. Beautiful rider. The filming was great as there is a great sense of speed and it was clear you weren't very comfortable on that bike. It was scary to watch in parts, especially downhill. That was a challenging piece of road with little room for error.
Suzuki does make some nice sounding motors. I've ridden the GSX-S as well and had pretty much the same thoughts on it. I also felt that the gears were too closely spaced (RPMS are very high at highway/motorway speed) and the bike vibrates BADLY. I rode it back to back with a GSXR-1000R and felt the GSXR was much smoother, and had a much smoother motor that was easier to control even with 200hp. The GSXR is just not comfortable for anything more than a short ride. I also rode the GSX-S750 and liked it a lot more than its big brother, had a very light, playful feel, and still plenty of power, it also had a lot less vibration, and the gearing was more appropriate for the motor.
The 750 is definitely a much better bike, plus the gearing is worlds better, period. The 1000 is way to close. First gear hits 80 and I think it's about another 20mph increase for each gear past that
I tested lots of bike in the past 3 years. GSX-S1000 KTM Superduke 1290 R BMW S1000R and now i've bought me a 2006 GSX-R 1000. With handlebar's up and footrests a little back it's comfy and the engine is still mental. I think if you do not need one of those naked steroid bikes, go for an old GSX-R 1000. Brilliant chassis and engine and extreme fun to ride.
I think both of Schaaf’s dislike have been addressed with the 2022 s1000gt. I would LOVE a Schaaf review of that thing once it’s available as it’s priced to be one of the best value per dollar in this segment.
I have this bike and it is by far the best sounding stock exhaust on any bike out there and before. It sounds really good and your mic pickup of it's exhaust was great. I enjoyed watching a great ride. Stay safe out there and enjoy the ride sir. :)
Changes from Vfr800F 2016 to Gsx-S 1000F 2018. The Dating Position in the Suzuki is more comfortable and the Power awsome. I have no Problems to handle the throttle but I have to je more concentrated due to the Power of the Suzuki.
It’s actually possible to see from this video how snatchy the throttle is on the Gsx-s1000. I find it a bit odd that the snatchy throttle is still a thing on the new bikes when this model has been around since 2015ish and the 750 has much better throttle response 🤔
Had throttle issues ever since they came out on both versions the gsxs naked and the gsxs f...Figured they would had that straightened out by now...Great vid dude...
Watching this made me nervous for you. I can tell from watching your other videos, that this bike was harder to control with the throttle. The guy on the VFR made it look easy and smooth riding while the GSXS was too twitchy. Thanks for the upload.
Keep the rpm above 7,000 and you can make adjustments with the throttle. Shift without the clutch. You have to be aggressive with this bike for it to perform smoothly.
The guy on the VFR is apexing correctly and using all the road.......schaaf isnt.....he is on off the throttle and a bit nervous but I think schaaf your videos are fantastic thank you
Great ride! Yes the throttle is twitchy, but can be fixed easily by proper setting of the TPS and a reset of the throttle open position. At least on the cable actuated system, not sure about drive by wire.
Fuel cut is so massive . Trying to slow down by throttle was like turning off the engine. Can feel you cause i have the same problem and it cant be remapped.
Ive just got a 2019 one, I wasnt a fan of the looks when they first come out, but it has grown on me over time (looks way better in matte black ;) ). Mine doesnt seem to suffer with the twitchy throttle at all (maybe something suzuki have sorted after all the complaints? lol ). I really love it, the engine is great, handles well enough and comfy enough for long ride outs. Plus I think its absolute cracking value for money. Less than £9000 new.
Hi. The bike is known for its throttle response. That is the reason why I don`t get it, that you hammer it in first gear around the thigt stuff and wondering that the bike balance is upset by on/off throtle mid corner. One or two gears higher and a lot less trouble. It is still a thousand cc bike, there should be enough grunt to get fast enough out of the corner. I don`t know what went wrong with this particular gear box, but Suzuki has normaly very good gear boxes. Disclaimer: I own this bike in Euro 3 configuration. That sounds even better, the gear box is fine, and the throttle response is something I have to adapt my inputs and riding style.
because I always use first gear in tight hairpins. Every other bike out there I've ever been on doesn't make a fuss. I simply don't want to be that far away from the power band
I could have easily used 2nd but I didn't want to be that far away from the mid revs. I always ride tight corners in first gear just to see how the bike copes with it.
Your description of this bike is accurate. Changing to the least aggressive mode helps the throttle, but you can remap. I think the 2018 model update fixed some of this issue. There is also now the Katana but it is not a sport tourer as much. The Z1000SX (Ninja 1000 in US) is probably the only other option before looking at Euro bikes like the Ducati SuperSport or BMW R1250RS.
Your video and sound quality is great! Working on getting my video to that quality. Your riding is good mate don't sweat that, your friend on the vfr just got more practice. It's not about what you ride but how much you practice. Hope you still riding these days brother. Looking for some speed on my third bike for next season and will be my first sporty anything on two wheels. Was researching the gsxs1000f for weeks and decided to pop in the local big motorcycle dealer and the first bike I saw when I walked in among all the other machines and parked right next to the new Katana, was the 2020 gsxs 1000f in black. O m g product specialist allowed me to take a seat for a bit and wow. Comfy yet not too sporty if at all and I'm coming from cruiser bikes so we slouch all day hahah.
Szlejer I know that feeling. Ended up buying a Speed Triple RS for this season, but after 2k kms I still like the old girl more. In the sport tourer category I think only the z1000sx and the BMW R1250RS is really comparable to the VFR 750, all of the others are to big can’t carry enough luggage or is just outright unrefined compared to the VFR.
Ooh Mann, je öfter ich mir dieses Video anschaue, desto trauriger werde ich. Wie kann mann mit so einem tollen Mopped so schlecht umgehen. Du fährst die Kehren hauptsächlich im 1.Gang bis 80 kmh, nur um hinter deinem Kollegen herzukommen. Deshalb hast du diesen Stress dabei. Wenn du eine solche Angst hast, Kehren mal richtig auszufahren, dann ist das wirklich nicht die richtige Maschine für dich. Ich habe mir das Mopped gerade gekauft und 900 km damit runter. Und ich liebe diese Maschine jede Sekunde. Sie ist die perfekte Symbiose zwischen einem 200 PS Supersportler und nem Bike mit dem man aufgrund der aufrechten Sitzposition richtig Fahrspass haben kann. Aber die Art und Weise wie du mit diesem Mopped umgehst ist einfach nur abschreckend.
Macht Freude dem VfR Fahrer zuzuschauen. Obwohl schnell wirkt das nicht so als er sich abmühen müsste in seiner Spur zu bleiben. Bin noch nicht viele Motorrad gefahren und frage mich ob da ähnlich wie beim Auto 5-6 Jahre so riesen Vorsprung was Fahrwerk anbelangt bedeuten
Да он ещё аккуратно едет. Чувствуется что едет новичок на этой трассе,. Очень неплохо для первого раза по таким серпантинам. Спасибо за красивое видео! Добра автору!
Hi Schaaf, you can be as fast as your friend. Just follow his corner line. I've seen plenty of Schaaf 1.0 so you are in no way slower than him : ) stay safe (btw his lines are safer and faster)
You're shifting down too early. Then often times rely on neutral stage to slow down the speed somewhat like just waiting for it slow down even cause you to look doubtful with your cornering .I would prefer using front brakes first instead of shifting down right away.
Albeit, very nice lines, Schaaf! . . If you want to hear a GSX S1000f sound really good, you should hear my 2016 with a Delkavic stainless steel 4-1 header pipe and Yoshimura can!
Ich weiß nicht woran es liegt, aber irgendwie gefällt mir der Sound der Maschine sau gut. Auf jeden Fall absolute Top Qualität des Video. Riesen Lob und ganz viel Respekt :)
I am delighted with this bike. I will consider it when I sell CBF1000. Beautiful engine sound, smooth and pleasant to the ears. Tell what happend in 11:23 ? It was problem with ignition?
I think The model you have tried has some problems , i try 3 times version s and f. There is a bit on/off , but nothing like this. Also the 11.24 moment is something really strange. I can tell you just one thing , with this motorbike you must calibrate the gas before the corner. And then don't touch it.When you are in the corner you can't play too much with the throttle. If you are able to deal with it.... It's an awesome bike For your riding style this bike is not good in my opinion. From an Italian Fan❤
with no bike in the world you should play with the throttle during cornering. You brake into the corner and near the apex you apply throttle again and hold it steady before twisting it to accelerate. Which is exactly what I did. It's just very difficult to get that right with a twitchy throttle response. No other bike I've ridden before (a lot by the way) had this issue.
Schaaf you are a good rider, no doubt . I love your videos and riding style it wasn't intent to be a critic! But in my opinion you didn't understand how this bike must be ridden. However I'm not discussing your ability.
@@mohamedelkhatib1172 the engine is the same , the F version has much wind protection . It depends of what you like. the engine is great , is the k5 gxxer
I've owned a GSR 600, snappy throttle. The then newly made GSX-s 750 had the same problem. I then tested a gsx-s naked 1000, same stuff. A fully retuned ECU makes it 90% better, but even then it isnt at the levels of proper comfort. A shame, they look quite alright
2019er Modelle haben einen neuen Gasgriff. Passt problemlos auch auf die alten Modelle. Ansonsten muss man bei dem Bike den Handballen auf das Lenkerende legen, sonst ist es in den Kurven und auf schlechten Straßen teilweise unfahrbar.
I think the bike is pretty - a matter of personal taste, isn't it? But even from here I could clearly notice the throttle response is jerky, and that alone would stop me buying a motorcycle, even if it's a sport-touring one, which I usually love.
Tricky request perhaps, but which one would you go for if you had to choose between this and z1000sx if you disregard the twitchy throttle and disregard the looks?
Es ist immer wieder schön deine Videos anzusehen! Ich hab mir Anfang des Jahres eine CB 500 PC32 gekauft. Aufgrund deiner Videos bin ich auf sie gekommen, hab mir noch paar Erfahrungsberichte durchgelesen und mich für sie als erstes Motorrad entschieden. Dazu hab ich heute den A2 Führerschein bestanden :) Ich hoffe du machst weiter so und das noch regelmäßig paar Videos von deiner kleinen Honda kommen ;)
Not really sure why you felt the need to keep wringing its neck in such low gears. Any motorcycle or car for that matter will always have a twichy/snatchy throttle response if you keep it constantly at very high revs and open and close the throttle abruptly. That bike has around 150 bhp and 80 ft/lbs of torque so I would suggest using higher gears would produce a much smoother and less frantic ride and still keep up. That sort of riding style is what a guy on say a 400cc sports bike would need to adopt to keep up. Nevertheless liked the vid
Because it is enjoyable. And nope, no other bike I've ever ridden (which is more than 50 right now) has such a snappy throttle. Every other bike I've been on deals with this kind of throttle control just fine.
We got a state park up in New York nearby me and we rode through twisties just like the ones in your video. Harriman State Park New York is where I like to go.
Ich freue mich ja, dass du mein Mopped fährst, ich würde mir ein paar Worte mehr wünschen... Oder verbietet das dein job bei 1000PS? Ich will die Gasannahme so. Leider ist man mit dem Motor immer zu schnell....
I wonder as well.. sounded like the clutch mismatched or fuel injection issues/bad gas/spark plugs? He was fighting the machine for the entire time thereafter.
I rode the same bike a few days ago, dont you think the on/off throttle is super aggressive? I mean the on off throttle was scarier than the Superduke haha
I leave my SDR in street mode primarily, even when in the Canyons, I rarely use sport. Rain mode is perfect for around town its just it's so smooth. Sport mode is violent haha
Are you sure the chain was adjusted properly when you rode this? I know they're snatchy, but this seems worse than usual. That and the false neutrals, something seems wrong.
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The short written review starts at 7:15
Dope sound quality 👏
thanks a lot!
Dang, my favorite channel commented on my other favorite channel! Now we just need Mike on bikes...
@@drewmasterflex14 I do watch Mike too
My heart almost stopped with those neutral slips omg hahaha Thanks for the upload Schaaf!!
thanks for the comment!
Confirm: sound recording is really great! And it's always interesting to read your opinion about the bike. Thanks!
thank YOU!
couple of points:
1. sounds awesome, I love how the gearbox whines
2. you can hear how twitchy the engine is, can be scary sometimes,(nothing to do with the rider skill)
3. the scenery is insanely beautiful, I would love to know where it is
4. the bike is ugly from the front. lol
overall this is one of the best riding videos I have ever seen, I'm glad you shared it
good luck and stay safe
Thanks a lot. It is the Großglockner Hochalpenstraße
@@Schaaf thank you
At the first neutral, my heart has bounced... 🥶🤙🏻
not just yours!
Damn that bike must come with a hefty underwear budget!
Something is wrong with this guys shifting. I own 2017 model, never happened. If something i sometimes have issues finding neutral at stops.
@@CosmicMidget hes a total noob that whats wrong.he shoul be driving 400 or.max 600. And old one couse hes gonna crash sooner or.later.
@@CosmicMidget Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it is not an issue. Lot of people have complains about false neutrals in other bike brands like Honda too.
hows your pants at 03:25? haha
brown
wrong gear , muhaha
I saw that and wide eyed!
Going in too hot trying to keep up with a faster rider. Never switch to agression at the expense of technique. The good racer acknowledges defeat and calmly takes second.
Gratuliere für ein weiteres, gelungenes Video. Deinem Kollegen der vor Dir fährt zuzuschauen, ist ein Genuss!
danke dir!
Couldn’t see your friend’s brake lights. Was tempted to say he was using the bikes weight and engine braking instead of brakes. But then he was even faster going down hill. So accurate and smooth I think maybe he knows all those bends off by heart rides them in his sleep. Because you know this I suggest you are subconsciously thinking about what he is doing rather than relaxing into your own ride, coupled with the poor fueling. He is riding his bike like an alpine skier on a slalom. But also his V4 has the power always to hand whereas you have to wait for the revs to climb, then immediately shut off and brake for the next bend and watch him gap you easy on the exit. Glad you posted this, I’ve learned a lot by watching this a few times and your commentary 👍👍
My bike was much more powerful than his. I know the VFR well it is significantly slower. He is just a much better rider than I am
Thanks a lot! The V4 of my VFR has a really powerful engine brake, so I don't have to brake a lot, even downhill. And yes, I love this road and ride it at least twice a year. :)
Your friend drives the bike like a real Motogp guy amazing , same goes for you , you both fast and clean as hell , btw still checking all your videos love it
Thanks 👍
Thanks a lot! I'm far away from MotoGP, i've never been on a race track - but I just love the mountains! :)
Throttle snatch can definitely be fixed, plenty of info out there on ways to reduce or eliminate it. As for looks it depends on who you ask and it seems there are a number of people like myself who like the appearance (especially the side profile).
Yea I think from the side it looks quite good
That sound record though!
thanks mate!
just take your phone or - if you have - sound recorder and put it in your backpack. no windnoise at all, a little buffered but just fine as you can hear on some of my videos. so really easy free setup
I liked that little sign that read "Biker Welcome" which is rare anywhere in the world to see at any given moment
true!
Love the whistling sound. This is one awesome bike and an equally awesome video from the intriguing riding to the beautiful scenery. Big up 💯
Thanks Erick
God damn, watching the guy on the old RC36 in front was borderline sexual. So smooth and fast, on what is admittedly a quite heavy and old clunker. Great show! :D
Lasse J Ougaard Still one of the best bikes out there! The VFR 750 is such a smooth ride. So forgiving, so non intimidating and so easy to keep momentum on and therefore also fast!
I own a couple of bikes, my quickest is a Triumph Speed Triple RS, but on most roads I think I am as fast on my VFR 750, as I am on my Speedie. The VFR is also loads more comfortable.
The older VFR’s are engineering masterpieces.
He was dragging a fair bit of knee in those corners :)
Hey, thanks... but please don't call my vfr a heavy clunker! :D
@@MrSkyliner2 It is heavy but not a clunker. :D
VFR...what a wonderful style!...but does it have slick tyres? (such pronounced lean angles seem to suggest it)
The front end was designed to create downforce so that plus the extra weight for fairings is what give this bike such a planted feel . It may not be the prettiest but she has substance. The throttle is mostly smoothed by a flash and throttle tamer.
thanks
I’m glad you published this. The sound recording is awesome as always. But not every bike is to everyone’s liking. Thanks for relaying the issues you had.
Well said! Thanks for commenting
I own this bike and love it the only issue is the throttle i would say its abrupt so you need to be smooth but you soon get used to that also you need the ride the bike useing the torque more rather than revs at lower speed.
think i have exact the same gsx s1000f white 2018 model.
I am definitely in love with this motorcycle. The on-off throttle behavior can be adjusted, and there are always downsides. This bike has a wonderful torque and the sitting position is more than comfortable for my worn-out old back. I think the GSXS1000F is the perfect bike for me at the moment. Love the renthal bars
suzuki always has a really nice intake and engine sound
true
Your friend is smooooth as hell. He just sat there like he was sight-seeing hardly putting a knee down. I think he went faster in the corners than on the straights. I would have lost sight within three corners. Beautiful rider.
The filming was great as there is a great sense of speed and it was clear you weren't very comfortable on that bike. It was scary to watch in parts, especially downhill. That was a challenging piece of road with little room for error.
true that. Too bad I couldn't watch him properly because he always was three corners ahead ;)
Schaaf ...Is he a racer on track? He absolutely trusts his tires. You did good also.
@@blipco5 No, i'm not. But I trust my tires, that's true. ;)
sky liner2 ...You do good. What tires? I don't have your skill but I can always buy the tires :-).
@@blipco5 Thank you... :) The tires are ordinary Pilot Road 4.
Suzuki does make some nice sounding motors. I've ridden the GSX-S as well and had pretty much the same thoughts on it. I also felt that the gears were too closely spaced (RPMS are very high at highway/motorway speed) and the bike vibrates BADLY. I rode it back to back with a GSXR-1000R and felt the GSXR was much smoother, and had a much smoother motor that was easier to control even with 200hp. The GSXR is just not comfortable for anything more than a short ride. I also rode the GSX-S750 and liked it a lot more than its big brother, had a very light, playful feel, and still plenty of power, it also had a lot less vibration, and the gearing was more appropriate for the motor.
The 750 is definitely a much better bike, plus the gearing is worlds better, period. The 1000 is way to close. First gear hits 80 and I think it's about another 20mph increase for each gear past that
yup. The 750 is a way better choice for the road
I tested lots of bike in the past 3 years. GSX-S1000 KTM Superduke 1290 R BMW S1000R and now i've bought me
a 2006 GSX-R 1000. With handlebar's up and footrests a little back it's comfy and the engine is still mental. I think if you do not need one of those naked steroid bikes, go for an old GSX-R 1000. Brilliant chassis and engine and extreme fun to ride.
I think both of Schaaf’s dislike have been addressed with the 2022 s1000gt. I would LOVE a Schaaf review of that thing once it’s available as it’s priced to be one of the best value per dollar in this segment.
I sure hope I get to ride one
I come back to this video once in a while to see that VFR
Nice!
Großglockner-Hochalpenstraße. amazing road.
Thanks for the info - I am going to Zell am See at the end of July.
I have this bike and it is by far the best sounding stock exhaust on any bike out there and before. It sounds really good and your mic pickup of it's exhaust was great. I enjoyed watching a great ride. Stay safe out there and enjoy the ride sir. :)
thanks Sir!
Dein Kollege vor dir fährt so wunderbar rund. Super Job 👍
find ich auch!
Danke fürs Kompliment... :)
Changes from Vfr800F 2016 to Gsx-S 1000F 2018. The Dating Position in the Suzuki is more comfortable and the Power awsome. I have no Problems to handle the throttle but I have to je more concentrated due to the Power of the Suzuki.
cool
Beautiful roads! Nothing like that near Chicago for my GSXS to play on. :(
It’s actually possible to see from this video how snatchy the throttle is on the Gsx-s1000.
I find it a bit odd that the snatchy throttle is still a thing on the new bikes when this model has been around since 2015ish and the 750 has much better throttle response 🤔
yup...
Had throttle issues ever since they came out on both versions the gsxs naked and the gsxs f...Figured they would had that straightened out by now...Great vid dude...
apparently not ;) Thanks
Watching this made me nervous for you. I can tell from watching your other videos, that this bike was harder to control with the throttle. The guy on the VFR made it look easy and smooth riding while the GSXS was too twitchy. Thanks for the upload.
thanks for the comment!
Keep the rpm above 7,000 and you can make adjustments with the throttle. Shift without the clutch. You have to be aggressive with this bike for it to perform smoothly.
The guy on the VFR is apexing correctly and using all the road.......schaaf isnt.....he is on off the throttle and a bit nervous but I think schaaf your videos are fantastic thank you
With scenery like that, screw riding fast. Lovely sound btw.
I've been to that road 30 times before. At some point you'll know the scenery
@@Schaaf whats the location?
Great ride! Yes the throttle is twitchy, but can be fixed easily by proper setting of the TPS and a reset of the throttle open position. At least on the cable actuated system, not sure about drive by wire.
cool!
Fuel cut is so massive . Trying to slow down by throttle was like turning off the engine.
Can feel you cause i have the same problem and it cant be remapped.
ok
The clarity in this is so smooth Schaaf Good Job man!! would you consider doing a video of the equipment you use?
A remap and power commander sorted mine right out have no dramas at all with the throttle. I have a 2016 model
true, I've heard people saying that
Ive just got a 2019 one, I wasnt a fan of the looks when they first come out, but it has grown on me over time (looks way better in matte black ;) ). Mine doesnt seem to suffer with the twitchy throttle at all (maybe something suzuki have sorted after all the complaints? lol ). I really love it, the engine is great, handles well enough and comfy enough for long ride outs. Plus I think its absolute cracking value for money. Less than £9000 new.
you can get rid of the twitchy throttle with a bit of fine-tuning I've heard
Hi. The bike is known for its throttle response. That is the reason why I don`t get it, that you hammer it in first gear around the thigt stuff and wondering that the bike balance is upset by on/off throtle mid corner. One or two gears higher and a lot less trouble. It is still a thousand cc bike, there should be enough grunt to get fast enough out of the corner. I don`t know what went wrong with this particular gear box, but Suzuki has normaly very good gear boxes. Disclaimer: I own this bike in Euro 3 configuration. That sounds even better, the gear box is fine, and the throttle response is something I have to adapt my inputs and riding style.
because I always use first gear in tight hairpins. Every other bike out there I've ever been on doesn't make a fuss. I simply don't want to be that far away from the power band
Armchair quarterbacking on my part, but I've ridden a GSXS1000, and with it's short gearing, I'd use 2nd even in the tightest corners.
I could have easily used 2nd but I didn't want to be that far away from the mid revs. I always ride tight corners in first gear just to see how the bike copes with it.
@@Schaaf I wondered myself why you were going back to first gear thanks for the explanation...Snake!
Your description of this bike is accurate. Changing to the least aggressive mode helps the throttle, but you can remap. I think the 2018 model update fixed some of this issue. There is also now the Katana but it is not a sport tourer as much. The Z1000SX (Ninja 1000 in US) is probably the only other option before looking at Euro bikes like the Ducati SuperSport or BMW R1250RS.
true that. And that SX is a great bike for sure
Hiya Schaaf.. I looked for your video on the suzuki gsx s1000 just to enjoy the sound. And you did the F version. Nice. Thanx..
Welcome!
That thing’s induction noise sounds like a spaceship 🔥
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Your video and sound quality is great! Working on getting my video to that quality. Your riding is good mate don't sweat that, your friend on the vfr just got more practice. It's not about what you ride but how much you practice. Hope you still riding these days brother. Looking for some speed on my third bike for next season and will be my first sporty anything on two wheels. Was researching the gsxs1000f for weeks and decided to pop in the local big motorcycle dealer and the first bike I saw when I walked in among all the other machines and parked right next to the new Katana, was the 2020 gsxs 1000f in black. O m g product specialist allowed me to take a seat for a bit and wow. Comfy yet not too sporty if at all and I'm coming from cruiser bikes so we slouch all day hahah.
thanks for the comment mate
Ask friend for a ride on his VFR750. That v4 goodness....
I will next time
@@Schaaf great. Because I am riding 97' VFR750F RC36 II and I think it is a great bike :)
@@Schaaf Besser ned, des hat nämlich bei Otto, Gudrun, Druxx und Thomas auch funktioniert! :D
@@MrSkyliner2 That's you? Because I looked at your video's and I hear VFR :)
@@linxus18 Yes, that's me in front of schaaf ...
A test rode like 20+ new bikes in the recent past, but I have yet to find one that I like better than my VFR...
Szlejer I know that feeling. Ended up buying a Speed Triple RS for this season, but after 2k kms I still like the old girl more. In the sport tourer category I think only the z1000sx and the BMW R1250RS is really comparable to the VFR 750, all of the others are to big can’t carry enough luggage or is just outright unrefined compared to the VFR.
Next year I'll probably take a look at used VFRs
Schaaf Good idea. If I lived 1000kms more south, you could have a go on mine. 😄
Nice vid. A easy mod for extra induction roar, remove the restrictor plate from the airbox.
cool
Ooh Mann, je öfter ich mir dieses Video anschaue, desto trauriger werde ich. Wie kann mann mit so einem tollen Mopped so schlecht umgehen. Du fährst die Kehren hauptsächlich im 1.Gang bis 80 kmh, nur um hinter deinem Kollegen herzukommen. Deshalb hast du diesen Stress dabei. Wenn du eine solche Angst hast, Kehren mal richtig auszufahren, dann ist das wirklich nicht die richtige Maschine für dich. Ich habe mir das Mopped gerade gekauft und 900 km damit runter. Und ich liebe diese Maschine jede Sekunde. Sie ist die perfekte Symbiose zwischen einem 200 PS Supersportler und nem Bike mit dem man aufgrund der aufrechten Sitzposition richtig Fahrspass haben kann. Aber die Art und Weise wie du mit diesem Mopped umgehst ist einfach nur abschreckend.
wow... Such a beautiful road and landscape.. where is that?
How exactly did you get that good of a sound recording?
Macht Freude dem VfR Fahrer zuzuschauen. Obwohl schnell wirkt das nicht so als er sich abmühen müsste in seiner Spur zu bleiben. Bin noch nicht viele Motorrad gefahren und frage mich ob da ähnlich wie beim Auto 5-6 Jahre so riesen Vorsprung was Fahrwerk anbelangt bedeuten
der hat bestimmt gar keine Mühe mit irgendwas ;)
@@Schaaf :D :D :D Das Schwein lügt, oder wie heißt das? :p
Да он ещё аккуратно едет. Чувствуется что едет новичок на этой трассе,. Очень неплохо для первого раза по таким серпантинам.
Спасибо за красивое видео! Добра автору!
Plesure to watch that VFR 750 carving up the Road. What a skilled driver. Excelent.
indeed!
Thank you so much!
Hi Schaaf, you can be as fast as your friend. Just follow his corner line. I've seen plenty of Schaaf 1.0 so you are in no way slower than him : ) stay safe (btw his lines are safer and faster)
Both Schaaf 1.0 and 2.0 are slower than this guy. I am no match for him. I know him and his riding for a long time :)
I noticed the missed shift scare. I get them sometimes on mine as well and was wondering if it was an issue with the bike
In my case it was sloppy shifting
You're shifting down too early. Then often times rely on neutral stage to slow down the speed somewhat like just waiting for it slow down even cause you to look doubtful with your cornering .I would prefer using front brakes first instead of shifting down right away.
I am not. But thanks anyway
I only noticed that amazing view of mountains after 7 minutes into video. Habit of looking at vanishing point 😂
Hehehe ;)
Albeit, very nice lines, Schaaf! . . If you want to hear a GSX S1000f sound really good, you should hear my 2016 with a Delkavic stainless steel 4-1 header pipe and Yoshimura can!
Ich weiß nicht woran es liegt, aber irgendwie gefällt mir der Sound der Maschine sau gut. Auf jeden Fall absolute Top Qualität des Video. Riesen Lob und ganz viel Respekt :)
danke dir!!
I just rented this bike in Orlando from Riders Share! Sweet bike!!👍🏻
Nice!
I think you drive better than the most of us, plus motorcycling is about having fun not about showing off...
yes that's it and a not so good ride like this simply isn't very fun to me
Damn, the video POV is great, and the sound quality is amazing
thanks
@@Schaaf ur welcome sir
That screaming sound when rpm is high, only found in Suzuki? I've heard it on gsx1250fa too but never on other brand.
On every inline 4 engine
Man, I'd love to see a helmet cam of that vfr rider. My man was destroying the turns on a bike as old, if not older than my parents.
would be great indeed
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I am delighted with this bike. I will consider it when I sell CBF1000. Beautiful engine sound, smooth and pleasant to the ears. Tell what happend in 11:23 ? It was problem with ignition?
It started to rain
man the squealy sound of this sequential gearbox is so gooood
yea
@@Schaaf idk but i kinda like hearing it whilst revving up. Gives a kick of adrenaline when giving the bike the beans! imo atleast
Did Suzuki ever release an update to reduce the twitchy throttle response at low rpm?
I don't think so but you can fix it yourself
I think The model you have tried has some problems , i try 3 times version s and f.
There is a bit on/off , but nothing like this.
Also the 11.24 moment is something really strange.
I can tell you just one thing , with this motorbike you must calibrate the gas before the corner. And then don't touch it.When you are in the corner you can't play too much with the throttle.
If you are able to deal with it.... It's an awesome bike
For your riding style this bike is not good in my opinion.
From an Italian Fan❤
with no bike in the world you should play with the throttle during cornering. You brake into the corner and near the apex you apply throttle again and hold it steady before twisting it to accelerate. Which is exactly what I did. It's just very difficult to get that right with a twitchy throttle response. No other bike I've ridden before (a lot by the way) had this issue.
Schaaf you are a good rider, no doubt . I love your videos and riding style it wasn't intent to be a critic!
But in my opinion you didn't understand how this bike must be ridden.
However I'm not discussing your ability.
As you have tried both In your opinion which is better the gsxs1000 or the gsxs1000F
@@mohamedelkhatib1172 the engine is the same , the F version has much wind protection . It depends of what you like.
the engine is great , is the k5 gxxer
@@tcs9495 performance wise how is that bike comparing to the MT10 and Z1000
SV650 owner... Would the GSXS 1000 be a sensible and solid upgrade ?!
most definitely
I've owned a GSR 600, snappy throttle. The then newly made GSX-s 750 had the same problem. I then tested a gsx-s naked 1000, same stuff. A fully retuned ECU makes it 90% better, but even then it isnt at the levels of proper comfort. A shame, they look quite alright
interesting!!
2019er Modelle haben einen neuen Gasgriff. Passt problemlos auch auf die alten Modelle. Ansonsten muss man bei dem Bike den Handballen auf das Lenkerende legen, sonst ist es in den Kurven und auf schlechten Straßen teilweise unfahrbar.
Quatsch
Hy, Cool engine sound! Where did you mount the mic?
whats that trepidation at 13:00 ?
no idea
That whistling sound so nice but where it comes from?
Gearbox
How did you carry your huge balls around the corner when you accidentally hit neutral! 3:25
experience ;)
yea, it's unfortunate they don't map these good out of the factory, once they get remapped they are absolutely wonderful to drive.
I heard that as well
I think the bike is pretty - a matter of personal taste, isn't it? But even from here I could clearly notice the throttle response is jerky, and that alone would stop me buying a motorcycle, even if it's a sport-touring one, which I usually love.
it sure is a matter of personal taste!!
Fantastic scenery.. Schaaf... living a biker's dream! Also a nice and interesting sound.
thanks!
That missed gearshift at 3:29 😨
The bike on off throttle transition seems to be extremely jerky..
it is
Tricky request perhaps, but which one would you go for if you had to choose between this and z1000sx if you disregard the twitchy throttle and disregard the looks?
The Kawa
Nice Video! Which mic do u use ?
where do you have the Zoom H1 placed and how do u link the sound and the video?
Great video btw!
In the description
Es ist immer wieder schön deine Videos anzusehen!
Ich hab mir Anfang des Jahres eine CB 500 PC32 gekauft.
Aufgrund deiner Videos bin ich auf sie gekommen, hab mir noch paar Erfahrungsberichte durchgelesen
und mich für sie als erstes Motorrad entschieden.
Dazu hab ich heute den A2 Führerschein bestanden :)
Ich hoffe du machst weiter so und das noch regelmäßig paar Videos von deiner kleinen Honda kommen ;)
Großartig!! Herzlichen Glückwunsch!
I would suggest you to put an eye on the throttle control
lol
Nice ride! I enjoy even watching this. Would love to ride there. Have the same bike 2020 year
Nice!
Noticed how snatchy the throttle sounded.. Didn't seem so fun!
suzuki power
the V-Stroms do it too, especially the 1000. The current GSXR-1000, however, is smooth as silk.
In my short experience, it's just a trait of Suzukis.
it was spoiling my fun quite a bit
I’ve owned one for a while and it bothered me at first but now that I’ve had it a while it’s so fun to just breath on the throttle and go
Not really sure why you felt the need to keep wringing its neck in such low gears. Any motorcycle or car for that matter will always have a twichy/snatchy throttle response if you keep it constantly at very high revs and open and close the throttle abruptly. That bike has around 150 bhp and 80 ft/lbs of torque so I would suggest using higher gears would produce a much smoother and less frantic ride and still keep up. That sort of riding style is what a guy on say a 400cc sports bike would need to adopt to keep up. Nevertheless liked the vid
Because it is enjoyable. And nope, no other bike I've ever ridden (which is more than 50 right now) has such a snappy throttle. Every other bike I've been on deals with this kind of throttle control just fine.
Where is this ?
We got a state park up in New York nearby me and we rode through twisties just like the ones in your video. Harriman State Park New York is where I like to go.
nice!
The throttle has two modes on this bike: on and off.... Was it the 2015 model? Because I read they did some work on the 2017 model.
it was from 2018 and yes, they did. So I don't even want to know how horrible the previous model has been
How long have they been making the gsx-s1000 now? And still haven't sorted the throttle response!!!
some people say they have with the 2019 models. I don't know whether that's true
@@Schaaf Lamb Chops seemed to like it.
@@Schaaf I rode the 2019 model about 4 weeks ago. The throttle response is MUCH better. And I didn't seem to have those downshifting issues.
Did this thing feel like it had enough power?
Ich freue mich ja, dass du mein Mopped fährst, ich würde mir ein paar Worte mehr wünschen... Oder verbietet das dein job bei 1000PS? Ich will die Gasannahme so. Leider ist man mit dem Motor immer zu schnell....
1000PS verbietet mir gar nichts :) Ich habe einfach nicht mehr zu sagen :)
Whoa!, what happened at 11:24 ?
I wonder as well.. sounded like the clutch mismatched or fuel injection issues/bad gas/spark plugs? He was fighting the machine for the entire time thereafter.
those were just a couple of bumps on the road's surface actually
@@Schaaf thanks, I thought it was some weird transmission noise.
This video displays the light switch that is the gsx throttle really well.
hehehehe well said
this bike have a Quick Shifter Up ?
no
I rode the same bike a few days ago, dont you think the on/off throttle is super aggressive? I mean the on off throttle was scarier than the Superduke haha
He has mentioned it in the video see after 7:49 .
You can always change the throttle ring for one more progressive or with less pulling on the cable for a given amount of grip rotation.
@@menonwithacanonOh thanks, didn't notice hehe
@@seventysevencats Yeah, but if a bike has such a snappy throttle from factory - its a no from me.
I leave my SDR in street mode primarily, even when in the Canyons, I rarely use sport. Rain mode is perfect for around town its just it's so smooth. Sport mode is violent haha
Are you sure the chain was adjusted properly when you rode this? I know they're snatchy, but this seems worse than usual. That and the false neutrals, something seems wrong.
yes it was
Also, very confident riding on the wet roads, nice one
it was not really wet. It started to become wet and that's why I decided to stop and go back down again.
Super!
So, which one- this or 750?
Whatever you feel better with