I would challenge some of the comments from the Midwest. Not many farmers understand what it is like to fight such a shallow hard pan. And the hard pan is concrete. And it is 12", not 36-48-60". Keep posting, they need to know. Good work
I ran a 5 shank V ripper through some blackjack clay with a TW20 Ford. That thing hollered the whole time. Went behind it with liquid manure, and then plowed it. Manure left dark streaks in the furrows. That youngun is going to be the future of AG, take care and raise him right! Great video, Patrick!
It’s amazing how tight land can get. We have red under the soil in most places and some on top that’s visible ( I’ve been working on covering that up ) ! I enjoyed watching you and your son working the soil!
I made a home made sub soiler for my farmall cub using a box blade tooth and a Reece hitch off a truck. Works great and it was free to can’t complain. Lol. How u have a good weekend sir
I was able to run at least 17 inches deep most of the time but some times the front wheels on the tractor would come off the ground and I would lift it up a little bit
We deep ripped Grandfather's home farm in northeast Antelope Valley Township, Deual County, South Dakota. It was white gumbo. It took 4 years for it to settle down, but then we raised some good soybeans the 5th year.
When we row cropped cotton and peanuts we had a 6row Unverfurth strip till rig and pull type JD planter hooked in tandem, Some of the bigger farmers Rip& Hip..... then knock the tops off the Beds when they plant....
Those strip till/planter tandem rigs are awesome, but don’t work on most of my soil. My red clay is extra sticking when freshly ripped. Planter has to be at least a few hours behind.
The last time we used one was about 5 or 6 years ago.... We Quit both Cotton and peanuts to supply Van trailer loads (756) of small squares of Hybrid Coastal Bermuda to TSC stores in our Area.. We sold or Traded most of the Equip connected to row cropping........In July of last year we swapped out a 5070 NH sidedraw baler /200 Bale Bandit for an 1840 inline Baler/ 5250T Bale Baron...
Honestly Patrick No more serious than what you are doing.... Remember we are very aware of what it takes to grow Peanuts and Cotton.......The only problem is with Peanuts and cotton you have very little control over the grading and pricing toward the money you will receive..... AS My Son Says to many hands in his pocket..... With us "when it comes to Hay,, we don't play!"
I’m far from a professional welder. Weld has passed through 140 acres and so far so good. I’m keeping a close check on it, and the others with a few inspection stops each day.
Hi Patrick Just wondering your thoughts on using gypsum or soil softener on red clay and if it would work ? I’m also on red clay, just stick raked it, prepping for 2030 to have lucerne planted hopefully
In the south peanut ground typically gets about a ton per acre of gypsum spread to help fill out peanut shell. We also lime preseason per soil sample. Usually about 2 tons per acre every 3-4 years. Those two practices combined have absolutely no effect on softness of red clay. At that level (3 tons per acre) it’s equivalent to pouring a glass of tap water in the ocean to help desalinate it. If you want red clay to be soft you have to subsoil it and never drive on it wet. Make as few trips across it as possible. After a year’s worth of rains, the water itself will have repacked it.
@@PatrickShivers Thanks very much for your help mate, I’m down in Australia but similar soil conditions to yourself, we have a rock problem though which is quite prevalent. In your opinion would mixing in different soils with the clay help to disperse it some so it doesn’t become so compact ? I have test trialed a paddock with deep ripping and then like you said as soon as it rains it compacts itself back down. Just trying to get this soil close to spot on before planting in a couple of years
@@Signaturegen2 I don’t think you can mix enough of another soil with it to effectively change it. I’m a fourth generation red clay farmer. Red clay holds moisture and fertility better than most other soils, which means it is very productive *if you can work it*. I know other farmers that farm mostly sand with one or two small clay spots on their entire farm. They struggle to farm those clay spots but do wonderful on the sand. Sand requires significantly more water and fertilizer. I struggle to efficiently plant the one sandy spot on my farm and can’t get a descent crop on it. It all comes down to specializing in soil you predominantly have.
@@PatrickShivers No worries at all, greatly appreciate your insight, I watch all your videos for tips and tricks and to see what you do with your soil. Helps me heaps with your knowledge. Keep up the great work mate all the way here from Aus we need to keep people like your in the farming industry! 🤙🏻
There is wide nose and narrow nose as well as top wing or no wing available. I use the wide nose with top wing (the largest point made to fit the subsoiler). By V shaped point are you referring to a sweep?
@@PatrickShivers I use way wider sweeps like v sweeps At the bottom to break up more sub soil like one foot because all your doing is just were your shake is going
I’ve heard of gumbo, but we’re far from it here. Red clay on most of my farm, it turns into sand just south of me and continues all the way to the Gulf. As for our red clay, we can only pull subsoilers immediately after rains. If the clay is dry you’ll break the ripper before you pull it through the clay. Speaking from experience.
I love your show your videos i am from Alberta up here in West Central Alberta on the Eastern Slopes of the Canadian Rockies i also Farm i also have a UA-cam Channel thanks Patrick keep em coming .
@@PatrickShivers yes there were a lot of Dinosaurs here at one time me being one of them lol yes come up will get together and i can show you around a bit i actually am close to Caroline and Rocky Mountain House and Sylvan lake area’s i can see the Rockies out my window were only about 40 minutes and your in the Rockies from my Farm and my channel i just started so it’s small i mostly just do little short videos but it fun doing em i really don’t have much experience doing them so it’s nothing special but i just want people to enjoy a bit of Alberta thanks Patrick i was surprised when you responded too me i appreciate it thank’s stay in touch we’re both Farmers and Farmers understand each other .
I would challenge some of the comments from the Midwest. Not many farmers understand what it is like to fight such a shallow hard pan. And the hard pan is concrete. And it is 12", not 36-48-60". Keep posting, they need to know. Good work
I ran a 5 shank V ripper through some blackjack clay with a TW20 Ford. That thing hollered the whole time. Went behind it with liquid manure, and then plowed it. Manure left dark streaks in the furrows. That youngun is going to be the future of AG, take care and raise him right! Great video, Patrick!
You had me at V-ripper with TW20. I can hear that stack pipe paying off from here!
It’s amazing how tight land can get. We have red under the soil in most places and some on top that’s visible ( I’ve been working on covering that up ) ! I enjoyed watching you and your son working the soil!
love the matching outfits and Mercer trying to help steer!
He thinks the 6115 (the one I pick peas and spray with) is his tractor
It will be in a few years!
Good video Patrick! As always, I learned something.
Доходчиво обяснил для тех кто ничего в этом не понимает. Земля всегда требует сил и знаний. You are a very good farmer.
Hello, Patrick! Cruising at that speed is a lot fun and much work is done, if nothing breaks...
Fine video as always.
Thanks for watching Luis!
@@PatrickShivers 👌
I made a home made sub soiler for my farmall cub using a box blade tooth and a Reece hitch off a truck. Works great and it was free to can’t complain. Lol. How u have a good weekend sir
I have faith in you your a good man
Thanks Linda
Rut row big boss man on the scene. There must be some large geologic formation under that thar red clay
Great videos, good length, we have hard red ground in Maryland also
I didn’t know y’all had red clay up there. I did know that Maryland has a very similar exposed fossil layer to us.
Looking good Patrick.
I was able to run at least 17 inches deep most of the time but some times the front wheels on the tractor would come off the ground and I would lift it up a little bit
Would an extra shank for quick field replacement be helpful? Thanks for the video.
That would speed things up. In a typical tillage season we may only weld one or two shanks though.
love ya man... but please block up that equipment before getting under it.
Howdy Patrick I reckon that weld gonna hold
🤞 it has so far, done ripped through 140 acres since the weld
How often do you run a subsoiler on a field? Every year?
Most years. Sometimes strip till instead.
We deep ripped Grandfather's home farm in northeast Antelope Valley Township, Deual County, South Dakota. It was white gumbo. It took 4 years for it to settle down, but then we raised some good soybeans the 5th year.
We subsoil annually in the south east.
When we row cropped cotton and peanuts we had a 6row Unverfurth strip till rig and pull type JD planter hooked in tandem, Some of the bigger farmers Rip& Hip..... then knock the tops off the Beds when they plant....
Those strip till/planter tandem rigs are awesome, but don’t work on most of my soil. My red clay is extra sticking when freshly ripped. Planter has to be at least a few hours behind.
The last time we used one was about 5 or 6 years ago.... We Quit both Cotton and peanuts to supply Van trailer loads (756) of small squares of Hybrid Coastal Bermuda to TSC stores in our Area.. We sold or Traded most of the Equip connected to row cropping........In July of last year we swapped out a 5070 NH sidedraw baler /200 Bale Bandit for an 1840 inline Baler/ 5250T Bale Baron...
@@farmingforfunandprofit940 that hay work is serious work.
Honestly Patrick No more serious than what you are doing.... Remember we are very aware of what it takes to grow Peanuts and Cotton.......The only problem is with Peanuts and cotton you have very little control over the grading and pricing toward the money you will receive..... AS My Son Says to many hands in his pocket..... With us "when it comes to Hay,, we don't play!"
@@farmingforfunandprofit940 that’s why I got into produce. I control the price & sell direct to end consumers.
Yes sr pull it as deep as you possibly can or just waiting fuel
Exactly
Why didn't you cut another piece of steel and add it onto the back of the new point? Now it takes even less wear before the weld is too weak to hold.
See you had the boss riding with you.
Him and I are pulling a krause disc right now prepping corn land
I don't think your weld is going to hold up , looks like could use more passes ! Enjoy your videos .
I’m far from a professional welder. Weld has passed through 140 acres and so far so good. I’m keeping a close check on it, and the others with a few inspection stops each day.
Hi Patrick
Just wondering your thoughts on using gypsum or soil softener on red clay and if it would work ? I’m also on red clay, just stick raked it, prepping for 2030 to have lucerne planted hopefully
In the south peanut ground typically gets about a ton per acre of gypsum spread to help fill out peanut shell. We also lime preseason per soil sample. Usually about 2 tons per acre every 3-4 years. Those two practices combined have absolutely no effect on softness of red clay. At that level (3 tons per acre) it’s equivalent to pouring a glass of tap water in the ocean to help desalinate it. If you want red clay to be soft you have to subsoil it and never drive on it wet. Make as few trips across it as possible. After a year’s worth of rains, the water itself will have repacked it.
@@PatrickShivers
Thanks very much for your help mate,
I’m down in Australia but similar soil conditions to yourself, we have a rock problem though which is quite prevalent.
In your opinion would mixing in different soils with the clay help to disperse it some so it doesn’t become so compact ? I have test trialed a paddock with deep ripping and then like you said as soon as it rains it compacts itself back down. Just trying to get this soil close to spot on before planting in a couple of years
@@Signaturegen2 I don’t think you can mix enough of another soil with it to effectively change it. I’m a fourth generation red clay farmer. Red clay holds moisture and fertility better than most other soils, which means it is very productive *if you can work it*. I know other farmers that farm mostly sand with one or two small clay spots on their entire farm. They struggle to farm those clay spots but do wonderful on the sand. Sand requires significantly more water and fertilizer. I struggle to efficiently plant the one sandy spot on my farm and can’t get a descent crop on it. It all comes down to specializing in soil you predominantly have.
@@PatrickShivers
No worries at all, greatly appreciate your insight, I watch all your videos for tips and tricks and to see what you do with your soil. Helps me heaps with your knowledge.
Keep up the great work mate all the way here from Aus we need to keep people like your in the farming industry! 🤙🏻
@@Signaturegen2 thanks for watching/commenting. I hope your alfalfa is a success
I think the weld will hold that's the hardest dirt I've ever seen!!!
Held good on 140 acres so far. Going to get another 110 across it Tuesday
Yea the Midwest boys are good as gold, but they don’t know about red clay and hard pan
Some of those guys can no-till corn. If you no-till on my land the corn plant won’t get over 2’ tall. I did a small trial last year.
If you would use bigger v shaped point it would do better
There is wide nose and narrow nose as well as top wing or no wing available. I use the wide nose with top wing (the largest point made to fit the subsoiler). By V shaped point are you referring to a sweep?
@@PatrickShivers I use way wider sweeps like v sweeps At the bottom to break up more sub soil like one foot because all your doing is just were your shake is going
That young man wants to steer that tractor.
Come to Iowa and try some of our black soil that we call gumbo. I call it tiger $hit. You will be going from a 11 shank to a 7 shank ripper.
I’ve heard of gumbo, but we’re far from it here. Red clay on most of my farm, it turns into sand just south of me and continues all the way to the Gulf. As for our red clay, we can only pull subsoilers immediately after rains. If the clay is dry you’ll break the ripper before you pull it through the clay. Speaking from experience.
Just wait until you have to start hiding keys
Makes my old 4430 look pathetic struggling to pull 4 shanks through hard clay.
I’ll hear none of that talk. 4430 is one of my top all time favorite tractors.
@@PatrickShivers it's my favorite, too
I love your show your videos i am from Alberta up here in West Central Alberta on the Eastern Slopes of the Canadian Rockies i also Farm i also have a UA-cam Channel thanks Patrick keep em coming .
I’ll check out your channel. I really want to get up there to the Edmonton paleontology museum. You’re close to some serious fossil hunting grounds.
@@PatrickShivers yes there were a lot of Dinosaurs here at one time me being one of them lol yes come up will get together and i can show you around a bit i actually am close to Caroline and Rocky Mountain House and Sylvan lake area’s i can see the Rockies out my window were only about 40 minutes and your in the Rockies from my Farm and my channel i just started so it’s small i mostly just do little short videos but it fun doing em i really don’t have much experience doing them so it’s nothing special but i just want people to enjoy a bit of Alberta thanks Patrick i was surprised when you responded too me i appreciate it thank’s stay in touch we’re both Farmers and Farmers understand each other .
do you sell peas
Yes. That’s one of my primary sources of income.