In a vacuum it seems odd but when you add the context of where OKC was as a rebuilding franchise, taking on salary to get a first round pick is exactly why Sam Presti has them as young and talented as they are.
To be fair to Kemba Walker he was an All Star starter in 2020 also he had injuries during his Celtics years and they used him to get Al Horford back too but i would've chose Gordon Hayward instead of Kemba
@@Cee-acts Max is making like 8 mil a year, pretty cheap. most bad deals now are albatross contracts that end up BECOMING bad at the end because of their age, but aren't terrible for 2 or even 3 years. Beal is I'd say the worst contract given out at the time, maybe ever. His is absolutely radioactive
And bragged about it, then talked bad about the teams after, once the fans turned on him. He basically led to the grizzlies firing their whole front office, so you can also say Parsons ultimately led to them drafting Ja so......
What’s wrong with the McDermott signing??? The spurs needed to sign SOMEONE when they were rebuilding. Most of those years they were below the salary floor anyways. If there’s someone better they could have signed I’m all ears, but I don’t think that many players wanted to join the Spurs as they were rebuilding. So you get Doug and he provides floor spacing for your young players - as we’ve seen in Detroit, not having spacing around your young stars is extremely damaging. And then at the end of the contract they traded McDermott for a 2nd round pick. So they even still got positive value. Someone’s gotta tell me why McDermott was a bad signing because I am not seeing it at all
How on earth is signing Doug McDermott not a good use of cap space for a rebuilding team? You have to spend the cap but you aren’t trying to win and he spaces the floor for the young guys to operate. You just had nothing else to say for the spurs so you just blatantly lied.
@@andrewdevlin8756Yeah I agree that it wasn't a bad signing, it was a deal you agree to in hopes you make a big run or it gets you over the top and deal with the fallout later kind of thing. Was Kyle worth the first year of the deal kinda, is he gonna be worth it at the end? Probably not, but if they win a chip in any of those years nobody is saying shit about it
I remember that, i wouldn't say those guys failed though they played just fine. We're they overpaid definently but that had to do with timing more than anything.
I commented this b4 I watched n knew ahha. As a Magic fan, that Biymbo free agent signing in 2016 still haunts me to this day! Glad Magic are way past that.
Looking forward to a similar video in 5-10 years. Curious how Sixers deal for PG ages. I haven't seen him positively impact winning since he left Indy. $53 a year is quite a chunk but they had to take a swing because Joel's window is probably closing. He is a wonderful talent but a massive dude with lower body injuries compounding. I think next year HAS to be their chance. We shall see if George can return to Playoff P form.
Idk man I think you couldve found worse deals for some of these teams. McDermott signing for the Spurs wasnt great but 14M isnt a lot in todays NBA at all and only a 3 yr deal isnt a long time. Plus they were able to trade him for assets.
I’m not even mad about the Mozgov and Deng contracts now because that was the first year when the NBA increased their salary cap so players was gonna get crazy contracts
I wouldn’t consider Jeremy Lin a bad contract by Houston. Overall he came there to be the primary ball handler and they suddenly traded for harden which limited his growth. If Lin signed elsewhere where he had the ball he prob would’ve developed into a good player.
Another one for the Pelicans: Giving Solomon Hill a 4 yr/48M contract in the 2016 offseason for someone who only average 4 pts per game on 33% from deep the season prior to that 😫
Not sure if this counts, but as a cavs fan it could arguably been the Kevin love extension when LeBron and Kyrie was gone he wasn’t a great leader and didn’t end well
The Al Horford situation is kind of funny. The 76ers signed him because he would shut down Embiid while on the Celtics. He loses form and is traded to OKC and then back to Boston where he finds his form again. Kemba was a decent signing, but he injured his knee right before the 2020 All Star game and hasn't been the same since.
Does Jordan Poole not count as a free agency signing? Because he's clearly a worse signing than Russell. They literally traded him before his contract even kicked in. And the player they got back for him (Chris Paul) was a lot less useful for them than the player they got back for Russell.
DeMarre Carroll was easily the worst signing for the Spurs they had to do a sign and trade giving up Davis Bertans to get him and signed him for 3 years only to waive him during his 1st year of the the 3yr deal, He only played 15 games for them.
That 2016 offseason was so crazy because of how much the cap went up with the new TV deal. (Which is part of why Golden State was able to do the KD move). Along with this the cap floor shot up too. These teams were required to spend this money somewhere so they gave all these mid players a BAG. Lol
As a Hornets fan that Batum contract doesn’t feel so bad retroactively. Compared to some of these other bad deals, Batum’s wasn’t as bad as I remember it being.
Utah has a worse one you missed. Derrick favors return to utah. Him and golbert couldn't play on the floor together, which is why they had traded him to NOLA the season before. Yet they resigned him for 3 years at $27million....to unload him him to OKC 7 months later with a 1st round pick to get out of the luxury tax. Exum at least was flipped for Clarkson who's been a Jazz staple since.
McBuckets is not a bad deal. It was a marriage of convenience, Spurs needed to spend money, and they could get some draft picks later on, which they did, a 2029 2nd round from the Clips. The worst contract is paying someone 2 million a year for the next 3 years after you waiving him! Tim Duncan still playing defense by getting steals at age 43.
Problem with the 2016-2017 signings was that they weren’t needle movers. Everyone knew those finals were going to look like. So giving a guy 80Mil just to be at best a first round exit didn’t do anything to improve the outlook
As much as I hated THJ, for the Mavs I'd have to go with signing JaVale McGee a second time. They're still paying him today after stretch waiving him. It's a pretty small contract but all that jumping through hoops and promising a starting position just to sign the Shaqtin all time MVP was pretty gnarly.
That Noah contract was terrible, just having to suffer watch him shoot foul shots was painful enough. Youd think all those years playing basketball he would work on his shooting form.
personally i think the hayward trade OKC made recently was their worst. traded tre mann (who played decent for charlotte after) and i think 3 second round picks for him and he contributed absolutely nothing for the team.tre mann couldve done SOMETHING. 30mil for a bench warmer is pretty bad
Nah man. I mean for one this is about free agent signings. Secondly OKC got rid of three contracts of guys they would have had to pay and didn't fit their rotation past the 2024 season. It was a win win trade. OKC payed more last season which they didn't mind and now had the cap space to go out and do things like sign Hartenstein and resign their two back ups they actually want in their rotation. I will grant you that having had to add two second rounders seems a tad much considering Hayward wasn't able to contribute at all..
For the wolves being a dumpster fire for 2/3 of their existence they really haven’t done a lot of terrible contracts. Could’ve gone Joe Smith under the table contract since that did cost them multiple 1’s. Pekovic and martin were actually good but on horrible teams
I wish this had been just over the last five years then we would see how the mostly current regimes of these teams management were handling their transactions. If the last 20 years then it's kind of out of context and doesn't really show what a team has been doing lately. It ends up having nothing to do with the current rosters. With that said let's blast some bad management.😊
Yes, it works just like a normal trade, the only reason sign and trades are more popular now is so the team that "lost" them get some kind of compensation in return or if the team gaining the player wants to shuffle money around to better equip themselves during FA
DEFINITELY do the counterpart video
yes please
It would be rookie contracts or vet minimums that worked out lol
2016 offseason was just crazy
Nba salary cap spike in 2016 lead to all these dogshit contracts
2016 might have been the worst offseason of all time lol
Everyone who wasn't the Warriors probably agree with this
Can’t blame the lakers for signing mozgov to that deal, I mean he scored 93 points in one game
Those clips of Joakim Noah are diabolical
That missed free throw was straight terrible.
When he started shaking his head I died😂
Kemba for Al was such a underrated trade considering okc didnt play him cause he was old 😂
In a vacuum it seems odd but when you add the context of where OKC was as a rebuilding franchise, taking on salary to get a first round pick is exactly why Sam Presti has them as young and talented as they are.
To be fair to Kemba Walker he was an All Star starter in 2020 also he had injuries during his Celtics years and they used him to get Al Horford back too but i would've chose Gordon Hayward instead of Kemba
I miss all of the bad deals teams used to give out. There's not many of them these days.
So Max Christie deserves $32 mill? Ben Simmons? CP3? Beal?…
@@Cee-acts there's some, but its not as common
@@Cee-acts Max is making like 8 mil a year, pretty cheap. most bad deals now are albatross contracts that end up BECOMING bad at the end because of their age, but aren't terrible for 2 or even 3 years. Beal is I'd say the worst contract given out at the time, maybe ever. His is absolutely radioactive
@@Cee-actschristie signing wasnt too bad
@@cowboytv7903 thanks for that, I wanted to explain that but got too lazy to put it into words.
Chandler Parsons was straight up robbing teams
And bragged about it, then talked bad about the teams after, once the fans turned on him. He basically led to the grizzlies firing their whole front office, so you can also say Parsons ultimately led to them drafting Ja so......
What’s wrong with the McDermott signing??? The spurs needed to sign SOMEONE when they were rebuilding. Most of those years they were below the salary floor anyways. If there’s someone better they could have signed I’m all ears, but I don’t think that many players wanted to join the Spurs as they were rebuilding. So you get Doug and he provides floor spacing for your young players - as we’ve seen in Detroit, not having spacing around your young stars is extremely damaging. And then at the end of the contract they traded McDermott for a 2nd round pick. So they even still got positive value.
Someone’s gotta tell me why McDermott was a bad signing because I am not seeing it at all
Agree, Collins signing is prob worst in mind. Spurs don’t really give out bad deals
@@rigbythekhajiit the initial Collins signing was amazing! 3 years $22M for a backup center is great. The extension was awful, that’s for sure
Spurs don’t have many bad signings
Thay have. Demarre Carroll. They don't even play him
yeah you're right
Man it’s crazy to think those type of contracts back then would be considered bargains nowadays 😂
How on earth is signing Doug McDermott not a good use of cap space for a rebuilding team? You have to spend the cap but you aren’t trying to win and he spaces the floor for the young guys to operate. You just had nothing else to say for the spurs so you just blatantly lied.
Kyle Lowry 3yrs 90Mil at age 35. The Heat gave up Dragic & Achiuwa to get him via S&T.
And dragic is out of the league and achiuwa doesn’t even play. Not that bad
@@andrewdevlin8756Yeah I agree that it wasn't a bad signing, it was a deal you agree to in hopes you make a big run or it gets you over the top and deal with the fallout later kind of thing. Was Kyle worth the first year of the deal kinda, is he gonna be worth it at the end? Probably not, but if they win a chip in any of those years nobody is saying shit about it
Allen Crabbe for blazers? 😂 just a guess
Haven’t heard that name in years!
That off season was nuts. Guys that should’ve been making 5-8 million on 1+1 team deals were getting 17-23 million for 3+ years
I remember that, i wouldn't say those guys failed though they played just fine. We're they overpaid definently but that had to do with timing more than anything.
I commented this b4 I watched n knew ahha. As a Magic fan, that Biymbo free agent signing in 2016 still haunts me to this day! Glad Magic are way past that.
Looking forward to a similar video in 5-10 years. Curious how Sixers deal for PG ages. I haven't seen him positively impact winning since he left Indy. $53 a year is quite a chunk but they had to take a swing because Joel's window is probably closing. He is a wonderful talent but a massive dude with lower body injuries compounding. I think next year HAS to be their chance. We shall see if George can return to Playoff P form.
Idk man I think you couldve found worse deals for some of these teams. McDermott signing for the Spurs wasnt great but 14M isnt a lot in todays NBA at all and only a 3 yr deal isnt a long time. Plus they were able to trade him for assets.
Kyle Singler is a Oklahoma legend..
I’m not even mad about the Mozgov and Deng contracts now because that was the first year when the NBA increased their salary cap so players was gonna get crazy contracts
I wouldn’t consider Jeremy Lin a bad contract by Houston. Overall he came there to be the primary ball handler and they suddenly traded for harden which limited his growth. If Lin signed elsewhere where he had the ball he prob would’ve developed into a good player.
Another one for the Pelicans:
Giving Solomon Hill a 4 yr/48M contract in the 2016 offseason for someone who only average 4 pts per game on 33% from deep the season prior to that 😫
Demarre Carroll for the spurs not McDermott
DeMarre Carroll was significantly worse than McDermott.
4:19 yk it’s bad when free throws are his highlights lmfaooo 😂
As a pacers fan why you gotta do us dirty so much in the beginning 😂
Sros be spitting
Not sure if this counts, but as a cavs fan it could arguably been the Kevin love extension when LeBron and Kyrie was gone he wasn’t a great leader and didn’t end well
Tristan Thompson was just as bad
The Al Horford situation is kind of funny. The 76ers signed him because he would shut down Embiid while on the Celtics. He loses form and is traded to OKC and then back to Boston where he finds his form again. Kemba was a decent signing, but he injured his knee right before the 2020 All Star game and hasn't been the same since.
Does Jordan Poole not count as a free agency signing? Because he's clearly a worse signing than Russell. They literally traded him before his contract even kicked in. And the player they got back for him (Chris Paul) was a lot less useful for them than the player they got back for Russell.
He signed an extension a year before he would have been a restricted free agent. Worst contract, but wasn't free agent.
DeMarre Carroll was easily the worst signing for the Spurs they had to do a sign and trade giving up Davis Bertans to get him and signed him for 3 years only to waive him during his 1st year of the the 3yr deal, He only played 15 games for them.
Luol’s entire highlight tape being a random game against the Wolves is such a good example of his lakers tenure
That 2016 offseason was so crazy because of how much the cap went up with the new TV deal. (Which is part of why Golden State was able to do the KD move). Along with this the cap floor shot up too. These teams were required to spend this money somewhere so they gave all these mid players a BAG. Lol
For GSW, I'd rather pick Jordan Poole as the worst. At least for D'Lo, when he was traded, they got someone useful for their championship run.
And Kuminga
As a Hornets fan that Batum contract doesn’t feel so bad retroactively. Compared to some of these other bad deals, Batum’s wasn’t as bad as I remember it being.
Utah has a worse one you missed. Derrick favors return to utah. Him and golbert couldn't play on the floor together, which is why they had traded him to NOLA the season before. Yet they resigned him for 3 years at $27million....to unload him him to OKC 7 months later with a 1st round pick to get out of the luxury tax. Exum at least was flipped for Clarkson who's been a Jazz staple since.
McBuckets is not a bad deal. It was a marriage of convenience, Spurs needed to spend money, and they could get some draft picks later on, which they did, a 2029 2nd round from the Clips.
The worst contract is paying someone 2 million a year for the next 3 years after you waiving him! Tim Duncan still playing defense by getting steals at age 43.
Dewayne Dedmon is the worst one for the Kings. $40M and lost his job REALLY early on a bad Kings team
Forgot all about that mozgov contract 😂
Happy to see these role players to end of the bench players getting that bag
The mavs one is definitely Javale Mcgee. His money is still on our books. At least we were able to use Grant Williams as a trade piece.
Problem with the 2016-2017 signings was that they weren’t needle movers. Everyone knew those finals were going to look like. So giving a guy 80Mil just to be at best a first round exit didn’t do anything to improve the outlook
As much as I hated THJ, for the Mavs I'd have to go with signing JaVale McGee a second time. They're still paying him today after stretch waiving him. It's a pretty small contract but all that jumping through hoops and promising a starting position just to sign the Shaqtin all time MVP was pretty gnarly.
You’ve angered the mathematicians on this one
2016 was crazy 😂
What about worst trades since 2010?
Kosta is a Kings legend bro’s hook shot was lethal
That Noah contract was terrible, just having to suffer watch him shoot foul shots was painful enough. Youd think all those years playing basketball he would work on his shooting form.
Clippers worst sing might be Leonard an George. The amount of money, the lose of draft picks and years its going to take to rebuild
Just showing how many teams did not know how to handle all their excess money they were given to use in 2016
Imagine if Bill Simmons did his worst contracts draft in 2017
As a Spurs fan, I think our worst free agent signing was resigning Pau Gasol in 2017 on 3-year/48M
personally i think the hayward trade OKC made recently was their worst. traded tre mann (who played decent for charlotte after) and i think 3 second round picks for him and he contributed absolutely nothing for the team.tre mann couldve done SOMETHING. 30mil for a bench warmer is pretty bad
Nah man. I mean for one this is about free agent signings. Secondly OKC got rid of three contracts of guys they would have had to pay and didn't fit their rotation past the 2024 season. It was a win win trade. OKC payed more last season which they didn't mind and now had the cap space to go out and do things like sign Hartenstein and resign their two back ups they actually want in their rotation. I will grant you that having had to add two second rounders seems a tad much considering Hayward wasn't able to contribute at all..
I was waiting for Ben Simmons, but there's always next year then the contracts over
For the wolves being a dumpster fire for 2/3 of their existence they really haven’t done a lot of terrible contracts. Could’ve gone Joe Smith under the table contract since that did cost them multiple 1’s. Pekovic and martin were actually good but on horrible teams
Was Jake Layman a good player for the Wolves? Nope, but he did give us that legendary dunk over Zion, so I’d say his contract was worth it
I think dewayne dedmond was the worse signing for the kings
Portland messed up so bad in the summers of 2016 with those contracts and then again in 2017 with the 3 first rd picks we had.
why’d the music sneak up on us in this video? Think i liked a cappella.
Warriors and Cavs had the league in panic mode lol everybody got paid in 2016 in desperation to compete
Listen Doug might have had a bad contract, but without the Spurs dumping money on him they never get Wemby, so not too bad afterall
Not sure about the other signings, but my Knicks gave Evan FKN Fournier 78 million…..so there’s that
Portland trail blazers 2017, Evan Turner, Myers Leonard, moe harkless, Allen Crabbe!!! Worst summer ever.
Joakim Noah was so booty😂
u should go ahead and put “76ers: Paul George”
Honestly Duncan robinson is probably a close second he isnt worth close to 90 million the james johnson one is worse but duncsn is close
You didn’t mention Knight before the Phoenix section, and 5/70 is 14 a year
Jerome Williams? Or that doesn’t count because the Knicks used the amnesty on him? Or did I misremember?
Definitely do a best one
Bulls worst was Felicio. You cannot convince me otherwise.
To be fair, Noah was a hell of a good big man in his day. It just was not his day in NY lol
You can't really be mad at Ryan Anderson though, bros wife killed herself and he decided not to take a break
Def do counterpart
My prediction for the 2025 finals matchup is OKC vs the Knicks (OKC in 6)
Vooch should be it for the bulls purely based on the pure anger he gives every single fan
Gonna guess tyler Johnson for the heat
Nahhh I know basketball but I know even at that time Allen Crabbe wasn't worth more than 10 mill😂
LeBum signing is the worst for lakeshow. Bubble trophy and mid-season trophy don't count.
summer of 2016 was so cursed
I wish this had been just over the last five years then we would see how the mostly current regimes of these teams management were handling their transactions. If the last 20 years then it's kind of out of context and doesn't really show what a team has been doing lately. It ends up having nothing to do with the current rosters. With that said let's blast some bad management.😊
The 2016 offseason was so bad but why did these teams have so much money for these bad players
JaVale for Mavs. Got 3 yr deal played 1 and was bad.
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John koncak deal was thw Hawks worse, sorry i just saw the year cut off
Wait so if someone signs a contract and gets traded to another team, does that new team still pay them on there original contract
Yes, it works just like a normal trade, the only reason sign and trades are more popular now is so the team that "lost" them get some kind of compensation in return or if the team gaining the player wants to shuffle money around to better equip themselves during FA
Batum shooting 40% from 3 is below average? When did we get a league full of Steph curry's?
If anyone has scene utrees 2016 nba free agency video you'll know a lot about basically half the list
For Dallas it’s definitely chandler parson he was so ass for us
As a hornets fan, Batum is 1000000% the right answer
Timberwolves worst contract was cole aldrich 3 years 22 Ms.
I thought Chandler Parsons will be the one for Dallas
Toronto should have been Aron Baynes
I'm not sure what yr it was but Andrew Bynum to philly was as bad as it gets. also tobias Harris in philly. handicapped the team for 5yrs
Felicio for the Bulls
am i trippin or did he just not do the blazers
Banger vid
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Informative, interesting.
doug mcdermot was good for the spurs
Captain Jack :^)
Blazers so bad we got 2 smh
Before seeing the heat I hope it's Tyler Johnson that contract I will never forgive pat for that
James Johnson I'm not mad at tbh