After backpacking for 40+ years starting with white gas then butane then alcohol stoves and wood gasified stove I love the simplicity, reliability and quiet of the alcohol stoves and wood burning stoves. When I am backpacking it’s about getting back into nature and resetting. It’s not about hearing a blast furnace in the background. Love these informative videos and truly appreciate the time and work you put into doing these videos. All the best.
As someone getting into it for the experience, not the miles or bragging rights, I agree. Alcohol and twig stove is the way to go. I wish firebans didn’t apply to some stoves… though no one can know if I’m thick in the woods and my wood gasifier makes zero smoke 😂
I have to admit there is nothing like waking up in deep snow to hear the roar on my SVEA, alcohol is great for the lone backpacker but at the top of a mountain I prefer the pressure stoves to make my cuppa....It sort of is a tradition for me but I do use the lightweight pop stoves, just a pity this one didn't go straight to Titanium.
I tend to value alcohol stoves less on speed and more on how stingy they are with the fuel while accomplishing the same boil. Would love to see some tests and comparisons. Definitely cool looking and could send me on another stovaholic binge.
👍 agreed. Efficiency and less speed to boil water works for me. The advantage of my Whitebox, Trangia and a myriad of 'home grown' Alcohol Burners is that the two fore-mentioned are paid for (long time back) and the latter 'free' mostly from salvaged / repurposed 'stuff'.
This is the comment I came to make. I'd like to know how many times I'm going to have to refill this stove during a cook. Maybe pick a typical trail meal that is a little more complicated than boiling water and rehydrating and compare different stoves and how quickly they burn through the fuel. All other conditions being equal. It's good to know this info if you are into longer hikes than just a day hike or an overnighter so you can plan accordingly.
Yeah, second this idea for sure! I'm currently guestimating 13ml per boil with my Turbo Gnome, but I really would like to compare this with other stoves. Overall the size and weight are hard to beat, but this one boiled at least 2mins faster than mine...so would love to see some fuel usage comparisons! (love your channel btw!)
Yep, agreed. I don't care how long my Trangia takes, it does the job. Would like to know if a new stove is more/less efficient than that baseline. FYI, I'm not claiming that the Trangia is the be-all, I am just very familiar with it.😊
Personally, I find use a heat exchanger pot really helps with alcohol stoves, since they have such low baseline output it's really matters capturing every single last bit of heat
This is a very important point -- but delivering heat to the cook pot is only half of the requirement. Keeping it there is just as important. So, a lidded pot addresses the top surface, but what about the sides? That's what a robust windscreen like the Caldera Cone can achieve. It allows effective combustion and focusing of heat while also mitigating convective and radiated losses. And there's even videos out there showing DIY fabrication from aluminum flashing, if you prefer or need to do it that way. Also, I notice many are properly concerned about fuel consumption. Given any stove that burns fuel effectively at any level, most of the heat produced will be delivered with equal effect by such a windscreen/potstand. Then only simmer capability is an issue to be addressed by the design of any given stove.
If all you consider "cooking" is boiling water fast then this is a great stove. I consider cooking preparing a meal from real ingredients. You know, stuff that can burn in a pot. So power isn't the main thing I'm looking for but regulation capability. You can find this on a good old Trangia (or clone) with a regulator ring.
True, me personally I just carry two. One with less burners for slow cooking, and other with more for fast boiling. Costs and weights next to nothing, and I have a backup if for whatever reason I break or lose one of them.
I have owned many alcohol stoves, and my primary concern is not weight (given they're all small and relatively light), nor speed, but fuel efficiency AND something which I have found lacking in most of the stoves I've bought and rarely seen thoroughly addressed in reviews --- FUEL CAPACITY. So many lightweight alcohol stoves have a just a 1 or 2 oz. or so fuel capacity and they run out of juice before they get the job done, especially in cold weather or with larger pots. Perhaps I missed it, but I never heard talk about fuel capacity in this review, nor did I see it on the stove's website. That, combined with the hungry burn and the price, makes me want to stick to my inexpensive stainless and aluminum OUT-D stove with a 3.5 oz. fuel capacity. Rock solid and gets the job done and I never run out of juice.
If you ever want something else look out for a military Trangia. Virtually indestructible and it has about 1,5x the size of a regular Trangia with a wider base, which means more fuel capacity.
@@dereinzigwahreRichi Very good suggestion. Thank you. I have the standard Trangias, but not the military. Seen them, but haven't ever owned. Will check it out.
From South Africa.. Yes, I have the same problem I use 2 Trangia burners, and substitute the whole burner when the first one runs down.With the Trangia, I believe running dry is the cause of the microcracking problem , so I snuff it when it starts to burn down
Ernie UA-cam has really messed with your notifications since you returned. I rarely get them anymore. I do always go and check though, just may be a bit late.
Been using and experimenting with these for years and it's the only one I've seen that's put out that much flame out of it's jets. Since you said they've dropped down to $70, I'm going to try one.👍
It would have been nice if they could have put a way to snuff out the flame and also a leak-proof lid so the fuel isn't wasted. Other than that, this looks amazing thank you
Could always snuff it with a pot or the lid from a can. All depending on the fact if you could get the windscreen/pot stand off while it's burning. If not maybe a pot or can turned upside down over top of it.
You, my friend, need a Trangia! ;-) Or just some copy of it. Throw the lid on without the rubber ring, wait a few minutes and check that the flame is out, then put it back on with the rubber sealing ring while it's warm and it will vacuum seal with all the rest of the fuel inside. Oldie but a goodie.
You can snuff the burner with something but the issue is the stand/windshield. There is no way to get an object close enough to snuff it out and it’s dangerous to remove whilst burning. Absolutely correct that not being able to snuff this out easily is a massive issue. I love it but after one use I think I am going to sell it.
If you put a top on these Minny burners.with a wick or two maybe three.ise the design off old karosine lantern and modify it to your alcohol burner to fit inside your foldout alcohol burner holder.
Glad to see alcohol stove systems with integrated windscreens and pot supports. This looks like a winner but will probably struggle with sales at this price.
I have this stove and its a fantastic option for when you want to boil water quickly. It is thirsty but its all a trade off of speed vs efficiency. I personally use a wind shield with it. The stand is not 100percent windproof but does allow for ignition in foul wearher. As Ernie mentioned it is a slow bloomer in cold weather, i think thats why ernies boil time was longer than advertised as the pot just went straight on. I tend to get boil times in winter of between 3.30 seconds and 4 minutes depending on water temp.
I love alcohol stoves, DYI or purchased. That’s a nice looking setup. I really like the ability to simmer a stove & use a Trangia often for that but I also like my Toaks Siphon for a quick burn. I use a Ferro Rod a lot to light my stoves & always wondered if the little bits of ferro rod would ever plug the siphon jet holes. 🔥🇨🇦
That blue flame is a sign of excellent efficiency! I’m really taken with alcohol stoves, so quiet, and although I’d kill for my coffee in the morning, a few extra minutes isn’t a deal breaker. I do prefer a way to regulate the flame but for certain types of hiking that appears to be an excellent design.
I use pure methanol and get that flame, it's the fuel. Poisoned "meths" with smell and chemicals added burn dirty, giving you the yellow flames and soot.
T7075 is a very strong aluminum, often used in handgun construction, so I think this stove should hold up for a long time. Thanks again for resuming your videos after your break.
The one thing that bums me out with alcohol stoves like this one are the small bases, especially if they depend on mounting the pot on them. So top heavy.
Awesome video, Ernie! Excited to see what new components they come out with in the future. My only 'Con' is for that price point, I would expect it to be made from titanium not aluminum but that's not a deal breaker. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
I bought this and love it! Of course it would be beyond perfect if somehow you had a lid to keep the alcohol in but it’s still awesome. Goshawks service and presentation with the stove is very good. It came in a nice storage bag and a cardboard tube that you can use to keep it in. I will certainly be buying more from Goshawk!
I very much appreciate you showing us all these stoves. I have different needs for different alcohol stoves. I can't afford to buy first & figure it out later. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise & experiences with the gear!
Hi Ernie, I am a fan and fellow physician, a retired country Doc. I watched your UA-cam post on the Fire Maple Petrel pot. I have the Goshawk ERA Burner thanks to your 2013 video. What about posting a trial of the Fire Maple Petrel 600 ml Ultralight Pot with various alcohol stoves? I tried my ERA burner and it works fine (120 degree pot supports). As with you, I have various stoves in Isopro, butane, white gas, and wood. I love alcohol stoves most. The wood stoves are for my emergency kit home and away. Do the video, Dr Garcia, that is my prescription.
I picked one up and i lke the heck out of it. it is a cool stove and I've taken it on several overnighters since I started using it. Thanks for the video!!
I bought the stove - boils 1 cup of water in 2:25 min in my hands. Amazing. The issue is that it is SO hot, the only thing you can do is boil water. No possibility simmering or frying eggs or fish. But, it is still amazing. You could certainly cook a steak in a pan.
If Goshawk ever gets a stateside supplier it’s gonna be Christmas and birthday combined. But that freight from Oz is a killer. Thanks for the looky see Ernie!
I wonder how many people that knock the price of $100 alcohol stove spend that much in beer and cigarettes in a couple of weeks. I have fun playing with these stoves. There’s entertainment value in that.
I have to admire GosHawk's ingenuity. In a sea of Trangia ( Still a favourite) copy cat's it very refreshing to come across a company that makes a quality product at a reasonable cost. They innovate, think outside the box, lead the way..so the sheep can follow. Very cool stove, I think I'll add this one to accommodate my Eddy-X. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Great little thing, thanks for driving our attention to it! I love alcohol stoves yet I am unhappy about the fact that most of them cannot be easily slowed down.
Hello. Looks nice, and I will give an honerable mention to a vintage heater made in Illinois usa. It was called, “Hot-ter heater, made for inside vans. There were 2 models, 1 was a single wick different design small design, and the other, a larger than the Swiss made heater, that fit 4 small wick containers inside that you could light any combination of the 4 containers, 1,2,3 or all 4. All 4 would use about a half gallon of fuel, and last for about 12 hours of heat. There was also a cross shaped platform inside where you can place the 4 cans on top of the platform for cooking, and that would create more heat. The cons: inside the small container is mirrored, so as simple as it looks to fill it, you need a small flashlight so you don’t overfill it. It’s so simple that the wick comes out of the can to fill it, but putting the wick back in with too much fuel spills and wastes fuel. Using the flashlight I rarely spill any fuel when I use it. I don’t understand how it lasts for 12 hours, where the Swiss made heater with more fuel, only lasts for 4 hours. Burning 4 cans gives you more heat than the Swiss made to, an extra advantage. I’ve never used the smaller model, so I have no info on that one.
Thanks for letting me know about the existence of this stove. I've been waiting for someone to come out with this exact thing - essentially the Toaks Siphon flame with an integrated pot stand and windscreen. Ordered one as soon as the video concluded. Might be my new go to stove. Great review, sir!
Couldn't agree with you more concerning comments. This particular stove is unique enough that I think I might need to add it to my stable of alcohol burners and I already have several. Some homemade and some not.
Hooo meeen... you've really nail it with this stove dude... IT HAS ALL pros we can ask for to an alcohol stove... Not only solbes the problem of the distance between the stove and the pot, but also 100% blue flames, which not only talks about the proper fuel but also a good burning device design... And as if all that would be few... HAVE Y'ALL SEEN IT...? Tha flames twists and rolls like a tornado...🔥🌪🔥. And THAT sort of flames in particular not only reduces the wind blowing but mainly it gives direction to the center, and provides penetration of the heat to the pot... And no alcohol stoves in tha market provides THAT specific sort of flames and heat performance... Congratulations Ernie best wishes to your channel and GOD bless you and your family gratefully... Martin from Argentina🇦🇷 by the way...
Good review of a really cool stove. I"ve used a lot of different stoves over the years and this design looks great. I don't like the price. I have a Safesport/Simon alcohol stove that I got for $12 that does pretty well. I've had it for over 25 years and it has never failed me. I still tend to lean toward canister stoves just because of the simplicity.
So, i have just received by ERA spirit burner. Beautifully presented. Super excited. Fuel up, and a cup of water boiled in under 4 minutes from very start. Wow. But. I couldnt put out the remaining fuel. My simmer lid wouldnt fit inside the top with the fitting holding the pot holder arms... hmmm. Had to let it burn. Fuel was boiling. Supet hot, super hot flame. Impressive indeed. Jyst gotta figure how to put it out. Will start testing required fuel amounts to control that 'afteryouhavefinishedyourburn' burn...
Nice stove. How about a review on the Neotreck pill bottle stove.? It’s basically two round mineral stones that soak up the alcohol and burn. I would love to see a comparison with other stoves.
I made my own similar to this one 5 years ago using a small Coca Cola can that’s bottle shaped…cut it in half and placed the top half inside upside down…made a similar port stand/windscreen…90% alcohol and I boil 2 cups in 4 minutes…weighs 6 ounces…my cost was $1.75…
Similar to the tokes siphon stove with the 4 piece tokes windscreen/stand. I use my tokes with my BushBuddy mini most of the time. Twigs or fuel. BushBuddy acts as the stand and wind screen. All combined under 5 OZ. I use the tokes with three of the 4 windscreen sections when I don’t take the BushBuddy at maybe 2.5 oz total, plus fuel bottle but you only have to take the fuel you need and much easier to find than iso. Any dirtbag gas station will have yellow heat if you cannot find denatured. If you use everclear you don’t have to worry about spilling a toxic in your bag. Dripping are lockable. :) this would be a great option had I not already had my tokes siphon. Thanks for posting.
I'm glad to see a review of some more Goshawk stoves. I hope you get to review some of the others also. Their site is very uninformative, but the designs look really nice, so it's good to see that they actually ARE nice designs also :)
So the stove looks very cool. My only issue is the wind screen pot stand arms. Not a fan of those type mainly because I’ve snapped that style off many times. Great demo man
I'm always looking for stoves with a twist on the Trangias design. The Goshawk Siphon Alcohol Stove Steampunk EDDY-X is an interesting one. Heavy ( compared to others ) since it's all Brass but will bloom in 12 to 15 seconds. Boil time is around 5 minutes.
I do use my Goshawk multi-fuel debris stove and love it. For casual camping it's great. I do find this design really interesting, but cost and weight are discouraging. I do rely on my ever trustworthy Zellh Fancy Feest stove and Toaks wind screen/pot stand (design for the Siphon stove). That combo works really well and weighs less than 3 oz. If the price comes down on the ERA stove, I would definitely pick one up. I do like to vary my gear every now and again for the fun of it. I don't see it becoming my go-to stove, but definitely think the design is very interesting.
I learned this from the Grunts 11 B . Once you get your fighting position set up or your houch . Take 1 #10 can place a roll of toilet paper in the #10 can pore one bottle of rubbing alcohol into #10 can soaking toilet paper. Then light toilet paper and then make some coffee or food.
This is a really cool stove. You know what else is cool? The latest Grayl Titanium water purifier. The problem I have been trying to solve is with the outer cup being only 2.5 inches in diameter, it will not stand on my MSR PR2 as the pot stand is too wide across the inner diameter. I picked up the Windmaster and it works great. In fact, wrapped up with a spark igniter, sponge, etc, it slides right in the Grayl for compact carry. Originally, I thought if I could slip an alcohol stove in there with fuel I wouldn't have to carry a canister separately. I might try that Lixada Mini you reviewed, as the Lixada I have is 2.7", and it would require one 2.45 or narrower to slip inside.
❤ listen here I'm homeless for 35 years and I've tried all kind of different rocket stoves and I seen other hobo channels that make pretty good stuff in Altoid tins and everything else but for the money you said about a hundred bucks I found one for $60 online both pieces in one order for us I'm going to fly me a cardboard sign that says anything helps and get me one of those cuz even if it's a little bit heavier it seems like it'll last a lot longer than a tin can also I'm going to make a scene a few designs out of Campbell's Soup cans that I want to try and make and I suppose that if I had to remake another one because I burned the old one out every now and then that's a cheaper stove anyways I just subscribed to your channel because that's the coolest thing in the world I'm going to get one and carry it in my backpack and thank you very much and happy holidays❤
Very cool looking stove. I think when manufacturers give boil times, they are bringing the stove to a bloom before starting. Yours is a much more honest test. Great video. Mike
Unlike the Trangia you have to be very conservative with the amount of alcohol you use at any given time. This is meant for portability. If you have alcohol remaining after your done cooking/boiling you can't just seal it up and go like with the Trangia. You can of course burn it until the fuel is exhausted but then it is wasted.
👍👍👍 Looks like a well-made little burner. All good fortune to those who decide to get and use it. Cost. Check where it was developed and made .. in all probability not some 'sweatshop'. Those involved also have families to feed. Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
It is a cool stove indeed! Not for me but I can see it being really good for some people. I have a little Goshawk alluminium alcohol burner, the first one I recieved was broken but they quickly sent a replacement. Not as durable as my Trangia burners but super light and neat.
i agree that it's a really cool and new design of alcohol stove and it looks really well made so will last many lifetimes so the price is fair IMO, nice one goshawk
Cool little stove, I prefer wood burners but like the alcohol stoves for a quick hike when all I want is a hot drink, value is subjective to a degree, if a person is happy with their purchase them it's a good value for them. Thanks for the video, love pack stoves
I looked through your videos and I don’t see a review on brasslite alcohol stoves. In the 2000’s when alcohol stove culture took off with the internet, the brasslite was considered the best. I still think it weighs in as a top product. Ive made brilliant pancakes with it’s simmer feature.
Hello Ernie. Really enjoyed this video. I’m new to using alcohol stoves. I have a trangia but don’t know what alcohol to use. In one of your other videos you mentioned that you use Heet the yellow bottle a lot with your alcohol stoves. Is that what you use in this video? The flame was clean.
Someone noted on a different channel that in essence a burner will use the same amount of fuel in theory as it’s the calorific value of the fuel that’s key. However the differences will be things like how long it may take to boil and how long a burner will run for (and of course temp of water, wind etc). I am not thermal engineer or physicist so need fact check that but wondered what people think ?
Excellent blend of condensed info and 'stop and smell the roses', well done. I have MANY tiny titanium wood and alcohol stoves and this one looks to address several areas of interest. (PS: my value is in weight, efficiency, and overall ease of use, with $$ coming in way down the list. Why not save for an extra month to buy what solves your problem for a lifetime?)
Great video, I'm going to get the Goshawk. How about a video on the Pill Bottle stove? It's certainly different. I liked the fact that you didn't have to drain the remainder of the alcohol back into the fuel bottle, you just put the tablets back into the pill bottle with no extra fuel needed for a few days.
Another great video, thx. Please tell me your favorite of the store-bought stoves. I currently use a home-made TLUD because it performs better in sub-freezing than the alcohol stoves in my experience. But I am willing to spend some dough on a store-bought if you say it's the best for backpacking esp cold weather backpacking. Thx! Scott
Interesting looking design. But I will stick with my Trangia. Tried and tested and works. Plus, I really like the pot stand and wind screen of the Trangia. Plus the simmer lid for the Trangia, is a good idea.
Awesome design! New designs are *always* a welcomed change. You cannot have progress without it. Also, man, I love your enthusiasm! I love how much you love stoves! Because me too! :D atb from Norway
Also just bought one on the strength of your review. Two thoughts you might consider; Does this have a cover to prevent spillage when travelling? How long does it burn for when full? Many thanks for the intro to what looks like a great piece of kit.
Just an FYI, the cost of this stove has dropped since filming to currently under $70
I clicked on the link you provided and it's $89.97
Had it shown under 70 mine would be on the way.
@@michaelpierce9450 I just double checked. I think it’s 90 Australian. It shows 65 USD now
@@HarshmanHills Thank you. I'll try it.
@@HarshmanHills $81.13 With international shipping.
It's on the way. Thank you
After backpacking for 40+ years starting with white gas then butane then alcohol stoves and wood gasified stove I love the simplicity, reliability and quiet of the alcohol stoves and wood burning stoves. When I am backpacking it’s about getting back into nature and resetting. It’s not about hearing a blast furnace in the background. Love these informative videos and truly appreciate the time and work you put into doing these videos. All the best.
Definitely number 1 at what Ernie does. Bushyboy Oz.
As someone getting into it for the experience, not the miles or bragging rights, I agree. Alcohol and twig stove is the way to go. I wish firebans didn’t apply to some stoves… though no one can know if I’m thick in the woods and my wood gasifier makes zero smoke 😂
I have to admit there is nothing like waking up in deep snow to hear the roar on my SVEA, alcohol is great for the lone backpacker but at the top of a mountain I prefer the pressure stoves to make my cuppa....It sort of is a tradition for me but I do use the lightweight pop stoves, just a pity this one didn't go straight to Titanium.
I tend to value alcohol stoves less on speed and more on how stingy they are with the fuel while accomplishing the same boil. Would love to see some tests and comparisons. Definitely cool looking and could send me on another stovaholic binge.
And the quiet!
👍 agreed.
Efficiency and less speed to boil water works for me.
The advantage of my Whitebox, Trangia and a myriad of 'home grown' Alcohol Burners is that the two fore-mentioned are paid for (long time back) and the latter 'free' mostly from salvaged / repurposed 'stuff'.
This is the comment I came to make. I'd like to know how many times I'm going to have to refill this stove during a cook. Maybe pick a typical trail meal that is a little more complicated than boiling water and rehydrating and compare different stoves and how quickly they burn through the fuel. All other conditions being equal. It's good to know this info if you are into longer hikes than just a day hike or an overnighter so you can plan accordingly.
Yeah, second this idea for sure! I'm currently guestimating 13ml per boil with my Turbo Gnome, but I really would like to compare this with other stoves. Overall the size and weight are hard to beat, but this one boiled at least 2mins faster than mine...so would love to see some fuel usage comparisons! (love your channel btw!)
Yep, agreed. I don't care how long my Trangia takes, it does the job. Would like to know if a new stove is more/less efficient than that baseline. FYI, I'm not claiming that the Trangia is the be-all, I am just very familiar with it.😊
Personally, I find use a heat exchanger pot really helps with alcohol stoves, since they have such low baseline output it's really matters capturing every single last bit of heat
This is a very important point -- but delivering heat to the cook pot is only half of the requirement. Keeping it there is just as important.
So, a lidded pot addresses the top surface, but what about the sides? That's what a robust windscreen like the Caldera Cone can achieve. It allows effective combustion and focusing of heat while also mitigating convective and radiated losses. And there's even videos out there showing DIY fabrication from aluminum flashing, if you prefer or need to do it that way.
Also, I notice many are properly concerned about fuel consumption. Given any stove that burns fuel effectively at any level, most of the heat produced will be delivered with equal effect by such a windscreen/potstand. Then only simmer capability is an issue to be addressed by the design of any given stove.
If all you consider "cooking" is boiling water fast then this is a great stove.
I consider cooking preparing a meal from real ingredients. You know, stuff that can burn in a pot. So power isn't the main thing I'm looking for but regulation capability. You can find this on a good old Trangia (or clone) with a regulator ring.
True, me personally I just carry two. One with less burners for slow cooking, and other with more for fast boiling. Costs and weights next to nothing, and I have a backup if for whatever reason I break or lose one of them.
I have owned many alcohol stoves, and my primary concern is not weight (given they're all small and relatively light), nor speed, but fuel efficiency AND something which I have found lacking in most of the stoves I've bought and rarely seen thoroughly addressed in reviews --- FUEL CAPACITY. So many lightweight alcohol stoves have a just a 1 or 2 oz. or so fuel capacity and they run out of juice before they get the job done, especially in cold weather or with larger pots. Perhaps I missed it, but I never heard talk about fuel capacity in this review, nor did I see it on the stove's website. That, combined with the hungry burn and the price, makes me want to stick to my inexpensive stainless and aluminum OUT-D stove with a 3.5 oz. fuel capacity. Rock solid and gets the job done and I never run out of juice.
If you ever want something else look out for a military Trangia. Virtually indestructible and it has about 1,5x the size of a regular Trangia with a wider base, which means more fuel capacity.
@@dereinzigwahreRichi Very good suggestion. Thank you. I have the standard Trangias, but not the military. Seen them, but haven't ever owned. Will check it out.
From South Africa.. Yes, I have the same problem I use 2 Trangia burners, and substitute the whole burner when the first one runs down.With the Trangia, I believe running dry is the cause of the microcracking problem , so I snuff it when it starts to burn down
“If you don’t want to spend the $90 on it….don’t buy it” wiser words have never been spoken 😂 love this design, definitely checking this brand out
Ernie UA-cam has really messed with your notifications since you returned. I rarely get them anymore. I do always go and check though, just may be a bit late.
Been using and experimenting with these for years and it's the only one I've seen that's put out that much flame out of it's jets. Since you said they've dropped down to $70, I'm going to try one.👍
@Fou FR. People seem to lose track of the value of money and what’s reasonable or not
It would have been nice if they could have put a way to snuff out the flame and also a leak-proof lid so the fuel isn't wasted. Other than that, this looks amazing thank you
Could always snuff it with a pot or the lid from a can. All depending on the fact if you could get the windscreen/pot stand off while it's burning. If not maybe a pot or can turned upside down over top of it.
You, my friend, need a Trangia! ;-) Or just some copy of it. Throw the lid on without the rubber ring, wait a few minutes and check that the flame is out, then put it back on with the rubber sealing ring while it's warm and it will vacuum seal with all the rest of the fuel inside.
Oldie but a goodie.
You can snuff the burner with something but the issue is the stand/windshield. There is no way to get an object close enough to snuff it out and it’s dangerous to remove whilst burning. Absolutely correct that not being able to snuff this out easily is a massive issue. I love it but after one use I think I am going to sell it.
If you determine the amount of alcohol and measure each amount you put in 1 ounce or two etc.I don't think extinguishing the flame would be a problem
If you put a top on these Minny burners.with a wick or two maybe three.ise the design off old karosine lantern and modify it to your alcohol burner to fit inside your foldout alcohol burner holder.
Glad to see alcohol stove systems with integrated windscreens and pot supports. This looks like a winner but will probably struggle with sales at this price.
I always appreciate seeing new interesting alcohol stoves. Thanks for the demo. Impressive blue flame!
I have this stove and its a fantastic option for when you want to boil water quickly. It is thirsty but its all a trade off of speed vs efficiency. I personally use a wind shield with it. The stand is not 100percent windproof but does allow for ignition in foul wearher. As Ernie mentioned it is a slow bloomer in cold weather, i think thats why ernies boil time was longer than advertised as the pot just went straight on. I tend to get boil times in winter of between 3.30 seconds and 4 minutes depending on water temp.
Hi Mark - how much fuel are you finding it needs to get the boil?
I love alcohol stoves, DYI or purchased. That’s a nice looking setup. I really like the ability to simmer a stove & use a Trangia often for that but I also like my Toaks Siphon for a quick burn. I use a Ferro Rod a lot to light my stoves & always wondered if the little bits of ferro rod would ever plug the siphon jet holes. 🔥🇨🇦
That blue flame is a sign of excellent efficiency! I’m really taken with alcohol stoves, so quiet, and although I’d kill for my coffee in the morning, a few extra minutes isn’t a deal breaker. I do prefer a way to regulate the flame but for certain types of hiking that appears to be an excellent design.
Actually, that blue flame is a sign of using pure methanol as fuel.
I use pure methanol and get that flame, it's the fuel. Poisoned "meths" with smell and chemicals added burn dirty, giving you the yellow flames and soot.
T7075 is a very strong aluminum, often used in handgun construction, so I think this stove should hold up for a long time. Thanks again for resuming your videos after your break.
You're right T7075 is very strong. My 1:8 scale racing Nitro racing buggies Chassis is made from this and the abuse it can endure is incredible.
This is an industrial version of the Tetkoba capillary stove, that you can make from energy drink cans and only cost you time.
I love Goshawk products. They are experts in creating unique designs that look awesome and work great.
The one thing that bums me out with alcohol stoves like this one are the small bases, especially if they depend on mounting the pot on them. So top heavy.
Mine is on the way! I hope they come up with a simmer ring for it
That looks pretty cool. I have 4-5 of the Goshawk stoves
and have been impressed and very satisfied.
Thanks for the review!
Awesome video, Ernie! Excited to see what new components they come out with in the future. My only 'Con' is for that price point, I would expect it to be made from titanium not aluminum but that's not a deal breaker. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
I hear you, but the R&D that went into this stove and the fact that it's aircraft grade aluminum justifies me purchasing one.
Just tried ordering, it’s SOLD OUT!
Ernie, it’s great to have you back! You’ve been missed!
JUST CHECKED AND APPARENTLY IT’S BACK IN STOCK! That was quick!
I bought this and love it! Of course it would be beyond perfect if somehow you had a lid to keep the alcohol in but it’s still awesome. Goshawks service and presentation with the stove is very good. It came in a nice storage bag and a cardboard tube that you can use to keep it in. I will certainly be buying more from Goshawk!
I have a weakness when it comes to stoves, I ordered it out after seeing it. Nice review.
I very much appreciate you showing us all these stoves. I have different needs for different alcohol stoves. I can't afford to buy first & figure it out later. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise & experiences with the gear!
maybe they will add a snuffer or lid for this stove as one of the upcoming accessories
Hi Ernie,
I am a fan and fellow physician, a retired country Doc.
I watched your UA-cam post on the Fire Maple Petrel pot. I have the Goshawk ERA Burner thanks to your 2013 video.
What about posting a trial of the Fire Maple Petrel 600 ml Ultralight Pot with various alcohol stoves? I tried my ERA burner and it works fine (120 degree pot supports). As with you, I have various stoves in Isopro, butane, white gas, and wood. I love alcohol stoves most. The wood stoves are for my emergency kit home and away.
Do the video, Dr Garcia, that is my prescription.
I picked one up and i lke the heck out of it. it is a cool stove and I've taken it on several overnighters since I started using it. Thanks for the video!!
I bought the stove - boils 1 cup of water in 2:25 min in my hands. Amazing. The issue is that it is SO hot, the only thing you can do is boil water. No possibility simmering or frying eggs or fish. But, it is still amazing. You could certainly cook a steak in a pan.
If Goshawk ever gets a stateside supplier it’s gonna be Christmas and birthday combined. But that freight from Oz is a killer. Thanks for the looky see Ernie!
I wonder how many people that knock the price of $100 alcohol stove spend that much in beer and cigarettes in a couple of weeks.
I have fun playing with these stoves. There’s entertainment value in that.
The value of only 16 starbuck coffees.
Gotta say, the focus on speed of alcohol burners, is puzzling to me. This amazing stove is beautiful.
I have to admire GosHawk's ingenuity. In a sea of Trangia ( Still a favourite) copy cat's it very refreshing to come across a company that makes a quality product at a reasonable cost. They innovate, think outside the box, lead the way..so the sheep can follow.
Very cool stove, I think I'll add this one to accommodate my Eddy-X.
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Indeed. If this gets popular, there will be Chinese copy cats in months.
Great little thing, thanks for driving our attention to it!
I love alcohol stoves yet I am unhappy about the fact that most of them cannot be easily slowed down.
Hello. Looks nice, and I will give an honerable mention to a vintage heater made in Illinois usa. It was called, “Hot-ter heater, made for inside vans. There were 2 models, 1 was a single wick different design small design, and the other, a larger than the Swiss made heater, that fit 4 small wick containers inside that you could light any combination of the 4 containers, 1,2,3 or all 4. All 4 would use about a half gallon of fuel, and last for about 12 hours of heat. There was also a cross shaped platform inside where you can place the 4 cans on top of the platform for cooking, and that would create more heat. The cons: inside the small container is mirrored, so as simple as it looks to fill it, you need a small flashlight so you don’t overfill it. It’s so simple that the wick comes out of the can to fill it, but putting the wick back in with too much fuel spills and wastes fuel. Using the flashlight I rarely spill any fuel when I use it. I don’t understand how it lasts for 12 hours, where the Swiss made heater with more fuel, only lasts for 4 hours. Burning 4 cans gives you more heat than the Swiss made to, an extra advantage. I’ve never used the smaller model, so I have no info on that one.
Good to see you back back doc…
I really enjoy this channel
I have a Goshawk Era stove and I am very happy with it.
Thanks for letting me know about the existence of this stove. I've been waiting for someone to come out with this exact thing - essentially the Toaks Siphon flame with an integrated pot stand and windscreen. Ordered one as soon as the video concluded. Might be my new go to stove. Great review, sir!
Couldn't agree with you more concerning comments. This particular stove is unique enough that I think I might need to add it to my stable of alcohol burners and I already have several. Some homemade and some not.
Cleanest flame I have ever seen on one of these.
Interesting new design. I'm looking forward to seeing what they develop to add to it.
Hooo meeen... you've really nail it with this stove dude... IT HAS ALL pros we can ask for to an alcohol stove... Not only solbes the problem of the distance between the stove and the pot, but also 100% blue flames, which not only talks about the proper fuel but also a good burning device design... And as if all that would be few... HAVE Y'ALL SEEN IT...? Tha flames twists and rolls like a tornado...🔥🌪🔥. And THAT sort of flames in particular not only reduces the wind blowing but mainly it gives direction to the center, and provides penetration of the heat to the pot... And no alcohol stoves in tha market provides THAT specific sort of flames and heat performance... Congratulations Ernie best wishes to your channel and GOD bless you and your family gratefully...
Martin from Argentina🇦🇷 by the way...
Good review of a really cool stove. I"ve used a lot of different stoves over the years and this design looks great. I don't like the price. I have a Safesport/Simon alcohol stove that I got for $12 that does pretty well. I've had it for over 25 years and it has never failed me. I still tend to lean toward canister stoves just because of the simplicity.
It’s great seeing you back in your natural habitat Doc 👍🏻
So, i have just received by ERA spirit burner. Beautifully presented. Super excited.
Fuel up, and a cup of water boiled in under 4 minutes from very start. Wow. But. I couldnt put out the remaining fuel. My simmer lid wouldnt fit inside the top with the fitting holding the pot holder arms... hmmm. Had to let it burn. Fuel was boiling. Supet hot, super hot flame. Impressive indeed. Jyst gotta figure how to put it out. Will start testing required fuel amounts to control that 'afteryouhavefinishedyourburn' burn...
“the stove guy”
Doesn’t have a thermonuclear irradiated stove.
J/k Great review of a very interesting new stove!
Dammit Ernie! Just ordered it. This makes 4 Goshawk stoves(burners) in my collection. I swear by them, fast to bloom and quick to boil. Great review!!
This one will be my fourth too! Thanks Ernie!
Nice stove. How about a review on the Neotreck pill bottle stove.? It’s basically two round mineral stones that soak up the alcohol and burn. I would love to see a comparison with other stoves.
Definitely adding this to the collection!
I made my own similar to this one 5 years ago using a small Coca Cola can that’s bottle shaped…cut it in half and placed the top half inside upside down…made a similar port stand/windscreen…90% alcohol and I boil 2 cups in 4 minutes…weighs 6 ounces…my cost was $1.75…
Nice! If I did lightweight backpacking I'd definitely get it
Similar to the tokes siphon stove with the 4 piece tokes windscreen/stand. I use my tokes with my BushBuddy mini most of the time. Twigs or fuel. BushBuddy acts as the stand and wind screen. All combined under 5 OZ. I use the tokes with three of the 4 windscreen sections when I don’t take the BushBuddy at maybe 2.5 oz total, plus fuel bottle but you only have to take the fuel you need and much easier to find than iso. Any dirtbag gas station will have yellow heat if you cannot find denatured. If you use everclear you don’t have to worry about spilling a toxic in your bag. Dripping are lockable. :) this would be a great option had I not already had my tokes siphon. Thanks for posting.
I'm buying because I take care of my stuff and it looks like a one time buy as long as you take care of it.
I'm glad to see a review of some more Goshawk stoves. I hope you get to review some of the others also. Their site is very uninformative, but the designs look really nice, so it's good to see that they actually ARE nice designs also :)
Wow! Neat to have something new. I’m going to try to get it. Thanks Ernie!! Cool vid!
love the deep blue flame and swirl pattern, my steampunk may get a brother
That is a thing of beauty, a bit too expensive for me at the moment but later on in the year I think I'll be having one.
I like the pot stand. Really nice design.
So the stove looks very cool. My only issue is the wind screen pot stand arms. Not a fan of those type mainly because I’ve snapped that style off many times. Great demo man
I'm always looking for stoves with a twist on the Trangias design. The Goshawk Siphon Alcohol Stove Steampunk EDDY-X is an interesting one. Heavy ( compared to others ) since it's all Brass but will bloom in 12 to 15 seconds. Boil time is around 5 minutes.
I do use my Goshawk multi-fuel debris stove and love it. For casual camping it's great. I do find this design really interesting, but cost and weight are discouraging. I do rely on my ever trustworthy Zellh Fancy Feest stove and Toaks wind screen/pot stand (design for the Siphon stove). That combo works really well and weighs less than 3 oz.
If the price comes down on the ERA stove, I would definitely pick one up. I do like to vary my gear every now and again for the fun of it. I don't see it becoming my go-to stove, but definitely think the design is very interesting.
Thank you Ernie! 90 is too much for me. But I agree that’s a great stove. Nice innovation. Love your channel!
been looking at this line of stoves for awhile. thanks for posting, gives me more info to decide. ATB Ernie
I learned this from the Grunts 11 B .
Once you get your fighting position set up or your houch .
Take 1 #10 can place a roll of toilet paper in the #10 can pore one bottle of rubbing alcohol into #10 can soaking toilet paper.
Then light toilet paper and then make some coffee or food.
Hello Ernie. Nice to see you back. I enjoyed the video and the stove does appear to be quite interesting.
This video got me to sub.
This is a really cool stove. You know what else is cool? The latest Grayl Titanium water purifier. The problem I have been trying to solve is with the outer cup being only 2.5 inches in diameter, it will not stand on my MSR PR2 as the pot stand is too wide across the inner diameter. I picked up the Windmaster and it works great. In fact, wrapped up with a spark igniter, sponge, etc, it slides right in the Grayl for compact carry. Originally, I thought if I could slip an alcohol stove in there with fuel I wouldn't have to carry a canister separately. I might try that Lixada Mini you reviewed, as the Lixada I have is 2.7", and it would require one 2.45 or narrower to slip inside.
❤ listen here I'm homeless for 35 years and I've tried all kind of different rocket stoves and I seen other hobo channels that make pretty good stuff in Altoid tins and everything else but for the money you said about a hundred bucks I found one for $60 online both pieces in one order for us I'm going to fly me a cardboard sign that says anything helps and get me one of those cuz even if it's a little bit heavier it seems like it'll last a lot longer than a tin can also I'm going to make a scene a few designs out of Campbell's Soup cans that I want to try and make and I suppose that if I had to remake another one because I burned the old one out every now and then that's a cheaper stove anyways I just subscribed to your channel because that's the coolest thing in the world I'm going to get one and carry it in my backpack and thank you very much and happy holidays❤
😃Another new stove!!!!!!
Very cool looking stove. I think when manufacturers give boil times, they are bringing the stove to a bloom before starting. Yours is a much more honest test. Great video.
Mike
Unlike the Trangia you have to be very conservative with the amount of alcohol you use at any given time. This is meant for portability. If you have alcohol remaining after your done cooking/boiling you can't just seal it up and go like with the Trangia. You can of course burn it until the fuel is exhausted but then it is wasted.
I just bought one, thanks for the review!
I have a couple of Trangia alcohol stoves. They are terrific. This one looks interesting. I would be willing to give it a try.
trangia 👍
Super cool video!! Thanks
Hope your healthy and happy
That was a gorgeous flame. ❤👍
👍👍👍
Looks like a well-made little burner. All good fortune to those who decide to get and use it.
Cost. Check where it was developed and made .. in all probability not some 'sweatshop'. Those involved also have families to feed.
Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
It is a cool stove indeed! Not for me but I can see it being really good for some people. I have a little Goshawk alluminium alcohol burner, the first one I recieved was broken but they quickly sent a replacement.
Not as durable as my Trangia burners but super light and neat.
Good to see you're back
i agree that it's a really cool and new design of alcohol stove and it looks really well made so will last many lifetimes so the price is fair IMO, nice one goshawk
I'm a huge fan of spirit burners and that thing looks slick
Looks like top notch. going have to buy one.
Cool little stove, I prefer wood burners but like the alcohol stoves for a quick hike when all I want is a hot drink, value is subjective to a degree, if a person is happy with their purchase them it's a good value for them. Thanks for the video, love pack stoves
I looked through your videos and I don’t see a review on brasslite alcohol stoves. In the 2000’s when alcohol stove culture took off with the internet, the brasslite was considered the best. I still think it weighs in as a top product. Ive made brilliant pancakes with it’s simmer feature.
Hello Ernie. Really enjoyed this video. I’m new to using alcohol stoves. I have a trangia but don’t know what alcohol to use. In one of your other videos you mentioned that you use Heet the yellow bottle a lot with your alcohol stoves. Is that what you use in this video? The flame was clean.
Great review. Thank you for sharing your passion. I always look forward to seeing what you will have next.
I think it looks freaking cool... and I'll most likely pick one up..... thanks
I would love to see a wind test. I agree, it’s a cool little stove.
It’ll definitely raise boil times and that thing runs through alcohol fast so wind will be the Achilles heel.
I love the quiet.
As it comes from down under I,m going to buy one tomorrow
Someone noted on a different channel that in essence a burner will use the same amount of fuel in theory as it’s the calorific value of the fuel that’s key. However the differences will be things like how long it may take to boil and how long a burner will run for (and of course temp of water, wind etc). I am not thermal engineer or physicist so need fact check that but wondered what people think ?
Thanks Ernie love your content. What wicking material does this stove use please?
Excellent blend of condensed info and 'stop and smell the roses', well done. I have MANY tiny titanium wood and alcohol stoves and this one looks to address several areas of interest. (PS: my value is in weight, efficiency, and overall ease of use, with $$ coming in way down the list. Why not save for an extra month to buy what solves your problem for a lifetime?)
Great video, I'm going to get the Goshawk. How about a video on the Pill Bottle stove? It's certainly different. I liked the fact that you didn't have to drain the remainder of the alcohol back into the fuel bottle, you just put the tablets back into the pill bottle with no extra fuel needed for a few days.
Another great video, thx. Please tell me your favorite of the store-bought stoves. I currently use a home-made TLUD because it performs better in sub-freezing than the alcohol stoves in my experience. But I am willing to spend some dough on a store-bought if you say it's the best for backpacking esp cold weather backpacking. Thx! Scott
That stove looks badass, I like it. Thanks for sharing 👍
Interesting looking design. But I will stick with my Trangia. Tried and tested and works. Plus, I really like the pot stand and wind screen of the Trangia. Plus the simmer lid for the Trangia, is a good idea.
Awesome design! New designs are *always* a welcomed change. You cannot have progress without it. Also, man, I love your enthusiasm! I love how much you love stoves! Because me too! :D atb from Norway
Cool Stove, Thanks for the review!
Also just bought one on the strength of your review.
Two thoughts you might consider;
Does this have a cover to prevent spillage when travelling?
How long does it burn for when full?
Many thanks for the intro to what looks like a great piece of kit.