GUILLIMAN PROMOTES DANTE
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2019
- Hi all Wolf Lord Rho here!
Today we are finishing our look upon the Devastation of Baal, with the Primarch of the Ultramarines, Roboute Guilliman. Appointing Dante, as Lord Commander of the Imperium Nihilus.
The events we are covering here are from the Warhammer 40,000 novel "Devastation of Baal". And I really recommend you read this novel for yourself first! Link: www.blacklibrary.com/warhamme...
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I just realized, Roboute couldnt meet Dante's Gaze cause he was wearing Sanguinuis's face. He couldnt look Sanguinius in the eyes without remembering of his failure
Guilt magnified exponentially....
Sage
Nice observation……….for an Ork.
Sorry, just had to make that joke 🤣
So you are saying that while Dante felt humbled under Guilliman's gaze, the mask meant Guilliman felt humbled under Sanguinius's gaze.
@@ThePathStrider maybe not humbled but guilt, shame,sadness, loneliness.. Robouté misses his brother, Sanguinus was pretty close to him.
GUILLIMAN said MY SON . He is trying to be an adopted father to his orphaned nephews. Damn you Horus for leaving the hawk sons without their Hawk dad.
There is a Hawk dad: through suffering and tears one of his son dons his mask to to hide his sorrow and face down the horrors of galaxy.
Dante is the greatest of all of his sons and the truest Heir of Sanguinius that has ever existed. Not many can say they rival their own prinarch.
@@theberserker987 Perhaps Dante will ascend like Hawk dad someday too. You know get his own fiery wings.
Like How Roboute was given a power boost by the emperor when he fought Mortarion.
@@SuperUniverse personal theory, dante will act as the avatar of Sanguinius, allowing his primarch to once again stride amongst his sons in the materium
@@theberserker987 *cries*
Angel Dad.
Dante, I'm promoting you to honorary primarch.
wait... what?!
Honorary half emperor.
Dante the new WARMASTER
@@rebeccaschroder3000 okay calm down
Wish they'd promote his model to honorary not crap
"I have the resources, Dante. I will expend them as I see fit." Straight Imperial hero baller.
Polite primarch way of saying "bitch, i'm rich!"
@@lavatun”my lord, it would take supernatural power to pull off”
“Dante, Dante, Dante… I DO have supernatural power, it’s called being RICH lmao you brokie, now fix this place up. My bitches have castles, and this is not a castle”
@@3adgamd3r "you truly are top g, my lord."
I think Guiliman was trying to avoid talk about Sanguinius because he didn’t make it to terra in time
He even said it was his greatest failure not rushing to his brothers aid when he needed him.
He couldn't have known. He isn't going to Terra and not bring the whole wrath of the 500 worlds. Unlike Sanguinius who's following his vision.
Somebody just give Dante angel wings and call him Sanguinius Jr already
You think he will be the vesell for Sanguinius's reincarnation?
@@anastasiosgkotzamanis5277 i thought that either
1- sanguinius' soul is trapped on the vengeful spirit
2- he got split into the sanguinor and mephiston
@@rayhankazianga6817 thing is his soul is not trapped in the vengeful spirit, since he was able to manifest to a dying Dante, telling him it isn't his time yet.
He is not on the level of a primarch he can never be on that level . He is one the greatest astartes to ever exist though which is impressive
@@commissaryarrick9670 Commissar I thought you died?? How do you still live and breath?
Guilliman was probably thinking that Dante reminds him of Sanguinies a lot.
For sure. Bet it makes him sad inside to see a likeness of his favourite Brother, and yet know that he had died years before.
Ahhhhhh this comment really hit the feels, the idea of Poppa Smurf looking down at Dante and him looking back up at him not knowing why a demigod now looks both happy and sad all of a sudden.
Indeed, I thought the same thing too. Must be why Guilleman didn't mention Sanguinius name when he speaks to Dante.
Guilleman is just too lonely at the moment. He wanted to have someone that he can speak to openly. He needs his actual brothers. The chatty ones would be nice haha.
NM6467 I feel like Vulcan in particular is what the Imperium and Guillemen need right now
@@ImmaDBZvillan I think so too. Vulcan is the most 'humane' primarch unlike the rest. Other chatty ones should be Russ, haha
"Lord Regent. I it would be allowed may I ask one small boon?"
"Of course, if it is within my power I will provide it, my son."
"Please tell me of my gene-father. The truth of the man he was, not the legends we are taught in the scholia as children." Dante's face showing but the slightest hint of emotion as he spoke his request.
Robute's face showed a moment of sorrow, then he smiled. "Of everything the legends say of my brother, this one thing is most true; Sanguinius was the greatest among us. What I respected most about him, and as I am shamed to admit quite jealous of, was how easy it was to like him. Of us all, he was the only to befriend each of our brothers. His presence bringing the warmth of brotherly love from those brothers who rivalries were not unlike hatred."
If.. If only Magnus did nothing wrong.
To continue the story:
Guilliman looks up to the sky as if expecting his brother to descend from them as Dante steps towards the parapets and looks over the desert.
Dante: "My father was many things to the blood. Gene-sire, primarch, legend. But perhaps the more important thing that he was, was a brother to you, my lord. I sense your solitude and sorrow having awoken to a broken empire such as what we have now."
Dante looks up to Guilliman whose gaze still affixed to the sky. A sense of kinship fills Dante as he looks at the primarch despite them not sharing lineage.
Guilliman:"He was my brother, yes. As i have said he was the best of us. We had him then but now he is not with us. But his blood runs strong in your chapter, his sons and all your successor chapters share this strength as well. Let us look to ourselves on matters that concern the now but not forgetting his memory for though i may want him here with me, i have no power to pull him from death. We must move forward with what we have now."
Dante looks down at the helmet he held in his left hand. The one thing he had of his father that he could hold.
Dante:"yes, my lord. Our father, your brother may be long gone but his teachings and blood still indeed runs strong in us and we will endure. My deepest gratitude for the small kindness you have given me."
Guilliman averts his eyes from the sky to now look at dante. His right hand pointing to sanguinuis' helm.
Guilliman:"keep it safe, dante. For though you are the one who bears it in battle, it is my brother's face etched on it."
@@chuck2703 THAT WAS LORGAR GODS DAMN IT!
@@greyknight5813 Erebus: *laughs his heretical ass off*
@@lavatun Where can you read this? I want to get into the 40k world but don't know the order or number of books
Guilliman is right in building up the Empirium into something beautiful and worth defending. More of the galaxy should have been more like the 500 worlds of Ultramar.
he is probably the only living being(outside of chaos) who really know what the imperium should have been and what the great crusade was trying to accomplish.
but...but... That would be BORING.
No Name That’s right, that’s why we worship Khorne. 😎👹👺
@@axelNodvon2047 yes inquisitor, that one there.
Yes ultramar was what the imperium should have been, in that light he was right to preserve it as imperium secundus
"Son of my brother" - So much more weight than nephew.
Sanguinies may be gone and Gullimen may know that, but Dante is still the son on of Sanguinies.
This makes Guilliman sound like a really really caring uncle hahahaha
Nice but its Sanguinius , not Sanguinie :D
Sanguine linguini!
Sang-winnebago
I nearly cried when Grandpa Smurf said that. It sounded like he actually cared, like that IS his nephew.
Guilliman telling Dante to raise his people from squalor and barbarity is a great moment. This is good characterization.
Cruel men make cruel warriors. I just realized, that was a shot at the Night Lords. Their original recruits were from the dungeons of Terra.
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He was actually referring to how most loyalist SMs are recruited in 41st millennium.
@@cgavin1 WTF? How did you even extrapolate that? That is not at all what Guiliman implied.
wozzlepop. You
Sir are hilarious.
Everyone is overlooking something very important here. Guilliman, who lived through Warmaster Horus's betrayal of the Emperor himself; arguably just decided to appoint what is essentially ANOTHER WARMASTER. We KNOW Gulliman understood the irony, dangers and given his character even the potential HYPOCRICY of doing this. Thats how worried and perhaps even frieghtened Guilliman is about the state of the Imperium. He is attempting to succeed where even his father failed...
Akios Eres Mah man, you need to read up the dark imperium novels, Bobby G, said multiple times when he woke up he regretted slimming down the legions to chapters he felt he made a mistake and then he starts the indomitable crusade and basically broke the rules with the primarius guys I think the are the “unamed sons” or something like that but yeah Bobby ultimately sees his flaws in wreaking the astartes and changes the rules my HOMIE lolol
Horus fell to Chaos simply because he was open-minded. The Blood Angels and its sucessors chapters are true believers of the Imperial cult, with Dante always setting an example. They'll be fine.
It's not lost on him, he knows the indommitus crusade was waged by a legion in all by name (Unnumbered Sons) and had to broke them off into the existing chapters and new ones for that reason
And when Mathieu, his apostle, goes against his orders and kick-starts a series of events that save him he gets furious with him because his actions caused imperial forces to fight each other, reminding him too much of the heresy
@@Halfort57 I think it is the Black Templars who are the only "true" Imperial Cult followers among the Space Marines. The Blood Angels, like most other Astartes, revere the Emperor but don't actually worship Him as a god.
And Horus didn't fall to Chaos because he was open-minded. He fell because he had always been very ambitious and arrogant, and the Dark Gods used that to manipulate him into turning against the Emperor.
But I agree that the Blood Angels should be fine. They inherited their Primarch's humility and nobility.
Strange thing is Dante won't disappoint his new position like horus did.
We need more artwork of space marines and primarchs in civilian clothes, not a lot, but some. They are weapons of war, but they are human.
this comment is hillarious.
I wouldn't mind seeing an Astartes in an elegant suit.
Fulgrim.....in sweatpants and Crocs. The horror....the horror....
+@@barlotardy mmmn, crocs. That's some sweet heresy right there.
Genuine Weeb You shut your mouth, crocs are comfort made manifest.
"My historians couldn't gather up your deeds, they are so numerious." Oh you! What a charming fella this Guilliman is. Charm lv 100. I'm blushing too.
Crazy that he gave such a big compliment being Guilliman the way he is xD
@@wessex8031 Ohh. Kind of didn't suprise me. And it's not that he is lying. Btw: 5:19
@@Kareszkoma He is not lying, but I mean Guilliman is not the compliments hugging bear like Vulkan
@@wessex8031 He is still human thou. And honestly, Dante, an Astarte, borderline has more numerous achievements than him. He is older than him too. Maybe not bigger achievements, but still very very many achievements. It would surprise everyone. I can understand the compliment.
Guilliman saying "We need to be better" gives me chills. He truly is a great primarch. The one the imperium truly needs in its darkest times. Not only is he intelligent but he is also kind and cares about every citizen of the imperium.
One of the reasons I think that he would ally with the tau, as they have ways to improve their tech exponentially and create better lives for many
Yep we need transgender Astartes, not just the Astartes who fight best
@@antonkukoba3378 what makes you think transgender astartes couldnt fight just as good?
@@antonkukoba3378 There's always an imbecile bringing up politics or social issues in something totally unrelated.
@@antonkukoba3378 technically, couldn't you call Astartes non sexed anyway? Except for the EC's of course who spend all their time fapping to serpent Hentai... and of course the Lion who likes clapping Alpha legion cheeks in that gay bar in the basement of the rock... (sorry... I think I'm overdosing on MajorKill again)
The mask still represents Sanguinius. SOMEONE has to wear it, and nobody but Dante is worthy. Sanguinius himself said so.
Sanguinius would see Dante as a fellow gigachad, that's why.
@@SilentHotdog28 Everyone, and I mean everyone, no matter their rank or importance, knows that Dante has had that dog in him longer than any of them have been alive.
He’s the equivalent of the 65 year old knight everyone is shit scared of bc no matter how old he gets, he can and will throw down with anyone, including SPOLERS FOR THE ARKS OF OMEN:
Angron. Him and his sanguinary guard straight up jumped angron when he was summoned
I love the fact that Guilliman seems determined to make the Imperium actually more than just a mass of haughty nobles with planets of serfs to slave for them in a monster beaurocratic machine , like it seems so common sense to me that " if every minute of your life is shit and the devil offers you a cheeseburger , would you really turn him down?" logic of his is , and why it seems NO ONE in the ENTIRE IMPERIUM has ever considered the idea that making the worlds they live in NOT shit might actually close off roads to the eternal enemy , just boggles the mind.
Because Slaanesh exists too, and look at our world. Countries get rich, birth rates drop to shit, people start putting things in their arses. Imagine that on a galactic scale. I'll take my chances with working them so hard they don't have time to have emotions except despair and hope, and not too much of the latter. Having everyone destitute allows some radicalization which can be dealt with, giving people time to think about things is what needs to be avoided. Come on mate get your head out of your arse.
I'd sacrifice systems for Chaos just to get infinite Subway Sandwiches
@Ved Singh I mean if you want to get real with that conversation, youtube will just delete my comments, the stats are verboten. But regarding 40k, and the extrapolations I draw from that, the framework is "survival of humanity" and within that, the subjugation of humanity to that end is fine, and a good thing in my opinion.
Thats the main reason the Emperor launch the great crusade and the reunification .. So that all human in the galaxy would live like the golden age if possible.. Unlike the current emperium now that almost hell like it self.
@Ved Singh You wouldn't consider it poverty because you would be properly indoctrinated to consider it a voluntary sacrifice, or you would be executed for heresy. I dont know what you don't get here.
THE KING OF THE NORTH!!!
THE KING OF THE NORTH!!!
THE KING OF THE NORTH!!!
THE KING OF THE NORTH!!!
You spelt "the" wrong 4x times lol
@@lewys9204 😂😂😂
@@jeffmusyoka1876 it got edited lol
@@Cavstic haha he did yes lmao
Why?
Your presentation is so different to other 40K channels, with your relaxed and friend-like demeanour. I see great things in your future, Rho. Great content good sir.
thank you! That's what I like about the channel. I'm just talking 40k with friends :)
@@wolflordrho hes right, nobody comes close to this channel!
The Sanguinius of 40k content creators
Wolf Lord Rho’s channel like stopping by the house of that neighbor who will excitedly share the cool bits from the book he’s reading while you play with his dogs. 🙂
Guilliman does make an amazing point about not resisting hell when one already lives in it.
Plz be aware that im not super deep on 40k lore, i just watch it on and off.
Guilliman is something of an oddity in 40k. A demi god from the distant past awakening into a universe he barely recognizes.
Unlike others though, he's actually setting about to do something about it. And sense right now he is quite litterally THE final say on any matter, he's not afraid to do it.
He's keenly aware that he'll probubly ruffle somones feathers (no pun intended) as he goes. Appointing dante is practical but also helps solidify that he's not trying to throw out the old guard.
Improving the imperium from the ground up also seems to be another of his goals. A weak foundation speaks ill of the house built upon it. And the imperiums foundation has been shaky at best for a long time.
I doubt guilliman can solve all the problems or that he's fool enough to try. But he seeks to be doing what he can, where he can.
Yep, and one could argue that he os the exact Primarch the empirium needed first.
@@gilsonpassos1047 arguably the best superpower to have is the power of super-administration skills
Guilliman built a great empire in ultramar . He is a proven empire builder so he is mankind's best hope
just called Dante warden of the North
haha i legitimately thought it was going to be said
Why the warden if the north? What the mining of that )m? Can you explain to me ? Sorry for bad English.
@@Daubeny-pm8vk
I think, it is about Game of Thrones
@@Daubeny-pm8vk it's a nod to game off thrones.
Galloleyman: "You remind me of Sanguinius."
Dante: "Oh, so you're going to show up too late and leave me to die, too?"
That was a spicy exterminatus of a burn there.
Guilliman
@@shanegrimes3455 woosh
Oof
Not to Guilliman crown Angel Boy into a high, respected position of power.
Oh how history rhythms
I just realized I listen to these stories for therapy. Brothers who honour each other and know their place and purpose in the great world. As it should be.
As it should be, brother
The line about seeing a Dataslate in his hands more than Weapons is perhaps the most interesting line of the story.
It encapsulates what it means to command - and that for all his Fury on the Battlefield, the real battle is won and lost in Logistics, supply, organization etc.
Something to consider about the relationship between these two - Gulliman is a Primarch and the greater of the two in terms of power and authority, but Dante his actual elder. Gulliman dates from more than ten millennia ago, sure, but he spent the vast majority of that time in stasis. His active lifespan was nowhere near Dante's 1500+ years, and even though he knew and was taught by the Emperor and served in the Great Crusade and the Heresy, his experiences are a fraction of what Dante's been through. Superhuman demigod or not, Gulliman's obvious respect for Dante is perfectly understandable. To have lived so long, to have fought for the Empire for so long, and without the benefits of being a Primarch is beyond amazing. Gulliman fell in combat to one of his brothers and was left behind by time. Dante has lived through a millennia and a half and never truly met lasting defeat, not even at the hands of his own traitorous brethren. Which of them is truly the better servant of the Emperor in the end?
Gulliman did conquer 500 planets in less than a decade before being found by the Emperor.....i mean that a lone saved a lot of time during the Great Crusade. He lead the Great Scouring and reclaimed all that was lost from the Horus Hersey and created the Codex Astartes. Also fought back the 13th crusade and stabilized the Imperium and saved Terra from Khorne... Pretty efficient for servant whos been around for a few centuries.
Really interesting point. Do we know from the lore how old Guilleman is? Other factor here is that Robby G is a demigod; he’s experiencing existence at a pace far greater than Dante, so chronological age wouldn’t be be determinant between them? There’s a cool moment in ‘Know No Fear’ where we see this about Guilleman; he processes something like 1200 data bulletins in fifteen minutes whilst thinking of something else entirely.
@@the_musing_kravist possibly 200-300 years old as horus heresy.
Papa G is a conquerer, A leader, and Was part of Horus Heresy... The Horus Heresy alone gives Guilliman ten fold of experience then dante and rebuilt the imperium.
The age in which they both live are different. The times of Guilleman was of the age of crusades. The conquest age to reclaim back worlds with vast legions. The times where Primarch walks among men. The times of Sanguinius.
The times where Dante served was the time of bitterness and hopelessness. The age where men had fallen to such an extent where dying would be a better choice. He persevere through it all and that itself was a miraculous deed no one can and could challenge anytime soon.
Guilleman respects that and he probably even hoped that Dante could live longer until a successor comes. The Lion still slumbers.
Gotta love Guilliman. A kind heart and the man to lead humanity forward. Even though hes a demi God hes more human than so many in the 40k universe.
Oh i agree with you that he should have asked guillman about sanguinius. That would be very very interesting.
Empire Empire
Interesting but bad story telling. The story’s over by this point. The narrative needs to snap shut, not drag on.
Considering the Blood Angels already know so much about their Primarch, they seem to have the most complete memories of their gene-father, they still have their home world, many, many relics, what new knowledge could they gain from such a conversation.
@@kelman727 I dont think so. There is no objective argument to support that. All that you wrote are just your subjective wishes. On the other hand, presence of information is always objectively better than lack of it.
Empire Empire
By definition there is no such thing as an objective opinion or argument. What an absurd point.
It is also ignorant of writerly craft and basic plotting, and seems to even take pride in it.
Guilliman only shows up at the very end of the novel after Dante has already broken the back of the Hive Fleet. The plot is resolved; no new situations or events must be introduced. Egregious info-dumping at this point merely highlights shoddy construction.
@@kelman727 there is no such thing as objective argument? 500 years of modern science begs to differ
I love the the Humanity and care Guilliman shows, especially in his Primarch book. Vulkan and Guilliman by far love humanity as a whole.
Had Matt Ward written this the final line would have been.
"As Dante looked upon his new Spiritual Liege leave, he felt a overwhelming sense of sadness. Dante then knew why all the Grey Knights really had wanted to be Ultramarines."
Tim hahah haha good one
And I thought everyone wanted to be Grey Knight.
😂😂😂😂
*Guilliman:* Commander Dante, you served the Imperium with a diligence few can match.
*Dante:* Thank you m'lord, but I am quite weary, perhaps retiring after all these centuries might do me go...
*Guilliman:* In recognition of your efforts, I appoint you to command part of the Imperium, escalating your stress and responsibilities a thousand fold.
*Dante's mind:* 😡 This blue cheese didn't listen to a word I said
The rage intensifies.
Never did I expect to hear Guilliman called 'Blue Cheese' in my life. Thank you for the laugh 😂😂
@@RhantheSlayer Well he got riddled with bullets by the alpha legion once so it's not wrong.
Only in death does duty end. No Astartes "retires"
"He felt naked in guilliman's gaze",
Oh boy.
You know, if we're only counting years awake, Dante is a lot older than papa smurf...
i think dante is arounf 10,000....its been a while sine i read my BA codex
@@TrenchCoatDingo Dante is about 1,200 years old at this point
@@unbeatablesniper16 he's been chapter master for 1200 years (around the time of the 13th black crusade).
He's like 1600+ now.
Yeah but hes doesnt have the intelligence of a primarch
Castle Road Official 1500 years speaks for itself
I'm curious how Guilliman will react to the Old Wolf if and when they finally meet.
Guilliman sees the old wolf arrive on his wolf drawn sled. Logan Grimnar or I hear they call you the old wolf. No... as grimnar looks off into the distance. my fenrisian brethren have given me another, and ill bear it till my dying breath... they call me.... Viking Santa Clause
@@Trajiun more interested in seeing Bjorn the fell handed meet guilliman
Didn’t the fel-handed know and fight beside. Papa smurf? That conversation would be most interesting indeed...even it it was not, bjorn is of the 30k. He remembers what was... wouldn’t that be something to have him start a bew chapter of the Russ and put him at the head of those primaris to kickass and take names...I guess i can dream...
@@HammarPwnsYourFace I don't think Dreadnoughts can be Chapter Masters. Otherwise the Fel Handed would still be Chapter Master. I think he was the first chapter master when Russ left. It's crazy that the Fel-Handed may the only person left in the Imperium that was from Guilliman's time.
@@blackmark2899 there was a dreadnought as a chapter master of a blood angels successor chapter back in the Blood Angels Omnibus with Rafen, i can't remember who it was or what chapter offhand but i do vaugely remember that
blood angels are my favorite astartes chapter in the 40k universe, and having to be talked of them is always good ^^
Nice touch
Guilleman, humanities supreme existant being requesting to join Dante and his brothers.
''May I join you?''
The sincere humility of a being with such power and presence uses manners, a common trait of decency throughout all humanity. The author goes on to emphasise and reiterate this in the following paragraph.
I've always wondered how an astartes of another chapter would view a Primarch (not theirs), this sums it up brilliantly, with utmost respect and it seems that Guilliman really does see these Astartes as his Nephews, which was awesome. He really respects and cares for Dante, doesn't just see him as a pawn. I feel like Guilliman is one of the few perfect Primarchs, along with Vulkan and Sanguinius in terms of how they view humanity and care for others. I wish Vulkan and Sanguinius were still around to lead with Roboute, those 3 are the best Primarchs, along with Russ (becuase he's badarse).
"Dante had seen tools of administration in guilliman's hands more often than weapons" there you have it! Lord commander is the technocrat primarch that's why papa E loves him so much I guess 🤔
Just had a fan moment! What happens if/when Guilliman meets Bjorn! Like have we met before??? Lol.
"Bjorn! You look great"!
"%&#@ off Guilliman"
So Dante served for 2000 years and gets half the imperium, Guilliman, like wtf do I get. I went fist for fist with Magnus more than once.
@@TherealSBlair That would be hilarious!
To be fair, Bjorn has always been taciturn in every one of his depictions. I think he would get along really well with Rogal Dorn, but I have a feeling Bjorn would find Guilliman a bit stuffy for his liking, and it's likely that Guilliman would be unimpressed with the SW chapter *STILL* not adhering to his codex.
But I mean, if Bjorn was able to knock back some barrels of mjod with the man, they could both get along famously, I think. As soon as they both removed those pesky sticks from their bums :P
@@brigandboy1425 why though Gulliman came back and Immediately threw out the codex. So why's he care? And if anyone can chat with him about the old days, like a brother. Which is well known he desires. It can ONLY be Bjorn. For now anyway
Going by the Dante's tertiary mission to better mankind, I can see him appointing Chapter Master Tu'shan of the Salamanders to be his right hand man: both highly respected by the Blood Angel's, despite his lack of seniority, with the ability best suited for building ties with the populace. A skill that every other Chapter could only hope to emulate.
Yes, that would be a great idea, especially since the Salamanders and the Blood Angels are best buds. These two Chapters are among those who care the most for common people of the Imperium, and them teaming up would totally make sense. It's too bad Nocturne and Baal are on different sides of the Great Rift, so this alliance is virtually impossible for now.
@@Saber2793 Not necessarily. Appointments can be lead by a delegation of those who embody Salamander ideals, giving us a cache of models and story options for GW, and still operate under Dante's influence.
Selecting 'Sally Chapter Master as the honorary head would still add prestige, and direct Guilliman's eyes to another capable master on his end. Something he can use to expand a similar remit on his end.
...Giving the Salamanders a Imperial remit, and not just a partial role.
Add a 2-3 named Salamanders, and flush-out the squad with assigned Blood Angel attendants for flavour/"look out sir" roles.
This fluff is already seen under Tycho's grave monument's honour guard.
Naturally, this squad detachment could replace Dark Imperium members with Ultra Smurfs, Primaris, etc to represent different factions or locations.
@@7hart2 If you're talking about a limited or token presence, as is the case with various monuments and Space Marine honour guards throughout the Imperium, then yes, it can be done. What I'm saying is that Chapter-wide cooperation between the two Chapters is improbable for now. The Blood Angels cannot abandon the Imperium Nihilus, and the Salamanders won't leave Nocturne defenceless, too many hostile forces active nearby. They could still send a sizeable force if Guilliman completely negates his limitations on Chapter size, though.
@@Saber2793 Strictly token/emissary units for fluff and fun in both games and story.
Cheers!
Intressting hearing your worry back then about the dark angels now with the lion active again 😅
Starting today and forever onwards I will refer to all of my nephews as "son of my brother"
I guess Dante could now force the Angels Vermillion to stop with their rituals and such since he now has the authority over them no?
Keep in mind they blackmail him
That might turn into a civil war tho.
He cant change stuff in one day he has to do it slowly
Guilliman stresses the point of Dante removing the mask more than once. You have to wonder if Dante bearing his brothers' likeness offends him in some way.
Especially considering the line "There is no need for you to bear the Angels' likeness when a real primarch walks among you."
Pains him probably. He is likely still grieving for his brothers lost.
Mega-Buster Shepard very real since Guilliman has really only been back into the fold since the heresy for such a short time. It literally must be like yesterday for Guilliman.
@@mega-bustershepard5537 I hadn't really considered that. Papa Smurf hasn't been back all that long so the heresy era is probably still fresh in his mind.
neilnightblade Gulliman was in the middle of the Scouring when he fell, then put in Stasis and woke up to M41. The Heresy for Gulliman was give or take to him less that 7 years.
Yea there might still be pain and sadness within him. And again like Dante said he is more like human so those emotion really logical. And there is also the point that Dante is trying to keep up with Sanguinius or be like him maybe.... How tiring that be.... To set yourself an expectation of a primarch..... For 2000 years? Just waw
Hearing the why they talk about Guilliman reminds of Rob Zombie "More human than human"
Removing the mask seems good to me. He is not Sanguinius, great as hawkboy was. In his own way, Dante is greater than any Primarch. He fought longer in realspace than any of them (as far as we know). He deserves to be recognized for himself, and his individuality. The mask distanced him from that for too long.
I can see your point, but by now the mask has become part of Dante, part of what he is. He’s recognised for his own deeds by friends and foes alike, and the mask is inseparable from his legend, just like the golden armour and the Axe Mortalis. So I doubt he’ll ever remove it for good, he’d just stop wearing it while talking to Guilliman.
Love Guilliman dialogues, he is so much what the empire needs and what the emperor's dream represents, more even than the own Emperor.
I really love how much effort the writer put into showing genuine good leadership from Guilliman and being subtle with the issues he may bring. Even just reading about his words here makes it hard to disagree with him.
I agree that they missed a shot at Dante asking about Sanguinius. When Guilliman reinforced Rynn's World he spoke to Kantor about Dorn (albeit very briefly!).
Devastation of Baal was a brilliant read. Thank you for the video! Great work.
Thanks for putting the book in the description. I often forget after watching your video haha
Wooo been waiting on this one! one of my Fav part of the book and now i get it read to me! Thanks for all the 40k content, it means a lot!.
Epic videos man, your narration really serves as an incentive to get deeper into the lore.
This channel wins SO HARD
Just started watching your videos and love them ive read most of the books but you have definitely picked up on stuff that i have missed
Just wanted to say I'm loving your videos Wolflord! Keep it up
thank you!
Another fantastic upload! Cheers
"..I name you Jon Snow, Warden of the North."
"May your story arc have a more satisfying conclusion, and may your character development remain unfucked."
Thanks for the great video just finished Dante and the devastation of baal both superb 😁
This is one of my favorite channels. You really bring voice to these characters, and make the world of 40k feel... real. human. personable. I guess I have to start reading the books, now don't I?
I’d like to read a meeting with Guilliman and the Space Wolves. Especially with Bjorn the Fell-Handed.
Guilliman has steadily increased in my books, since his return. So much character development. Cruel lives create Angrons...:(
PS: son, as a term of endearment, not literal...:)
I had to come back to this video after watching The Templin Institute's video on Lord Commander Dante. Such a great moment between two heroes of the Imperium.
The moment you realise that Dante has been fighting longer than Guilliman
WOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!
the last conversaton was SO GOD DAMN TRUE, i was thinking of that for so a long time, like the space marines have been fighting with the same horros the dark gods offer them, why would you choose to fight with people who has suffered the most, which actually learned to fight through the same horrors they were ment to destroy....what kind of messege that gives to the space marines? like they are the ones meant to destroy what they have become?, save the people who teaches them through the horrors they face? which is the difference between that and the despicable gods?
instead, if they were to learn about the beauty, compassion, life, etc. They would never (as some chapters) even think to betray what they protect, as a man who fights for what he believes and love will fight till his last breath, till his last drop of blood, till the last gasp of his soul leaves the body, and even in death they would prevail.
Fantastic listen !
To have Mephiston leave your presence by *politely asking* him to.
That, my friends, is command.
Also, I love how Guilliman basically goes "Yo, dude, can you chill down for a sec? We can't keep up counting your antics..."
Regarding your background music (which is awesone), let's hear more about the mechanicus!!! Forges of Mars and The Great Work are exceptional, it has given me new perspective into the faction. They run parallel to the Imperium but not the same. Very cool stuff.
Dante: can I please retire
Roboute: Best I can do is incharge of half the imperium
D : by the emperor
R : I know, it sucks, let it all out
Man, I will have to re-listen to this. I don't remember any of this. :(
I'd love to see Dante become elevated to a Primaris marine level, similar to Marneus Calgar.
Whenever Wolf Lord Rho makes a video, I almost cry. I would promote you to a reader of stories, and distribute all your readings across the Imperium. Damn. I would do that IRL. Let the children and workers listen to your voice, your stories. You are sure worth it. I'm damn sure you do.
Great video bro 😍
Dante: I’m so weary. I just want to die
Guilliman: best I can do is a promotion with even greater responsibility
I can't wait till see his interactions with the other first founding chapter masters...... wonder how the great wolf will take to him and his new Primaris Marines??
I want Guiilliman to meet tu shan
Dante: Lord Primarch please... Just let me die already!
Robot Girlymom: Lol no. By the way, you're in charge of the shitty side of the Imperium now
Fantastic! Well done, sir. Or lady. Whatever you prefer but I assume Sir will suffice. Outstanding work.
Loved that book! Just picked up Vaults of Terra: The Hollow Mountain :)
“Please let me die”
“I promote you to responsible for half the Galaxy”
Devastation of Baal is genuinely a great read. As a long-time Blood Angels player on the tabletop, Dante being named Lord Commander was a great moment of recognition for a guy who has given over a millenium to every corner of the Imperium.
I would also make the subtle distinction between emotion being a "weakness", which implies that being emotional is a flaw when it isn't, and it being a vulnerability. Something that is not inherently weak, but can be muddied and confused, which leads to uncertainty and insecurity. Emotion is a vulnerability precisely because it is such a point of strength. If you damage the strongest pillar of a structure, the entire structure may collapse.
I love Guilliman.
Dante is Frodo Baggins but a Badass. Well done.
One of my most favorite scenes from any Black Library novel!
I'd love to see gilliman to meet the lementors, being one of the few chapters with a strong sense of empathy and getting screwed over again and again
Wow me watching while I’m eating ramen haha so damn entertaining this channel is!!!
Man!, Guilliman gave him a "Honey do...list." "As far as an Ork's imagination is your's. Don't Eff!, it up, or its your a$$, Feel me! Im coming back with white gloves, mudder trucker!!!"
And with the burden of leadership bestowed the primarch beckoned his leave. But before he could depart words escaped Dante, almost in a whisper, surprising not the Lord Regent, but the Warden himself.
"My Lord...for all that you have done I still have but one request"
The primarch remained still, almost as if he had divined what was to follow
"My gene-father...I have seen him, many times, in hazy dreams born of battle and his likeness etched into marble on countless planets. I have read of his strength and of his heroism in the scriptures stored proudly within out fortress. I have worn his gaze into war more times than memory allows. And I believe in those times where hope is fleeting and evil abound that it is his blood flowing through my veins which gives me course to persevere.....but I have never known who he was."
Guilliman turned to face Dante and the Warden, keen to hear every word, nearly betrayed the calm and guile that had carried him through 1600 standard years
"he was..." Guilliman paused. Leaving Dante nearly taken aback.
"he was everything you have read and was said to be, but more than that he was my brother"
"My Lord?" Dante asked, curiosity and hesitancy jabbing at his insides.
"I may tell you of times we bled together, my witness of his great deeds, times we laughed, and times we disagreed. But I will tell you of one of my greatest shames. That I was not there for my brother. That I could not prevent his suffering at the hands of our fratricidal kin."
"know this Dante, he was everything you have done, everything you have fought for these long years. I think all of us saw it in him, even those of my brothers driven to the deepest depths of madness and hatred. What my father, our emperor, envisioned for mankind. The peace...the hope...but more importantly the love that Sanguinius bore for us all"
"he would have been proud to call you his son and he would have shown you the same love I know you bear for your brothers"
*"A society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its laws written by cowards and its wars fought by fools."*
Dante's armor always reminds me of a Stormcast Eternal. Don't get me wrong, I love it. It's just similar.
Love to know where Yiu got the background gothic music. It's what makes your videos stand out! Going to post this on every video in the hopes I'll get a reply :p
did you get the music of this video?
@@gadrielvanorion9872 yeah I did thanks. If I have trouble falling asleep I throw this on and sends me. Off within 20mins lol
Great Video; On too 10K Subs!
it's simply terrifying how old the dante model is, it makes me feel so OOOOLD! I love this, I dont think anyone, even the Dark Angel's, Sanguinius was almost war master anyway
Thank you my Lord.
Bruh I could just imagine some random Xeno Civilization looking into the Milky Way Galaxy in WH40k when the Galaxy split in half lmfao
Xeno 1: "Wtf is going over there"
Xeno 2: "No clue, but sounds like a them problem"
10k years later
*Tyrranids Arrive*
Dante: "Before you leave me Lord, there is one more thing"
Guilliman: "Yes, my son ?" *turns around*
Dante: "Hydra Dominatus!"
*slits Guilliman's throat*
immediately upon death it turns out Guilliman was also an alpha legion agent.
@@jajordan2106 we are all alpha legion? *Bolt pistol mounted behind Dante* Sgt Rafen: "always have been"
Cant wait for the Hereticus Secundus.... where the Primaris make a play to conquer the galaxy
Mind blowing, love it!
But I was wondering what the backingtrack is called like?
Hey Wolf I have been listening to alot of your videos on theories about Guillamens motives witg promoting dante and this and that around d the imperium secundus. And to be honest, hearing the Lord Guillamen talk about compassionate heroes who care for the people makes me more firmly believe in Guillamens innate goodness and faith in humanity.
i Love Devastation of Baal
I remember someone saying to guilliman, "Mind yourself, for he is not Sanguinius." when they spoke of dante