[v2.2] Secret Origins of Treasure Hoarders [World Structure Theory Part 2 ]- Genshin Impact Theory
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Part Two of Teyvat World Structure Theory
In this video, we'll be looking into Kaeya, his origins, connections to the Treasure Hoarders, and what implications there might be.
**PART ONE**: • [2.0] Visions and Elem...
*VIDEO CITATIONS*
1 - *Cavalry* www.google.com/url?q=...
2 - *Currents Deep Beneath the Lanterns* genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
3 - *A Surprise Gift* genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
4 - *Secret Pirate Treasure* genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
5 - * Solar System NASA* solarsystem.nasa.gov/resource...
6 - *The Raven who Stole the Sun* www.amazon.com/Raven-Trickste...
7 - *Planet Hosting Star* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet-...
8 - *SASA.GOV.UK* www.sasa.gov.uk/sites/default...
9 - *Cultural Depictions of Ravens* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultura... & treesforlife.org.uk/into-the-...
10 - *Alberich* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberich
11 - *Dynamocha* / kaeya_the_bird_in_borr...
12 - *The Vain Jackdaw in Borrowed Feathers* read.gov/aesop/073.html
13+14 - *Kaja name origins* www.behindthename.com/name/ka... & watchingtheswedes.com/2019/02...
15 - *Eye Patches* www.mentalfloss.com/article/5...
16 - *Pirates and Parrots* www.atlasobscura.com/articles...
17 - *Viking Ravens* www.oldsaltblog.com/2014/07/cr... & www.heathen.dk/2020/06/29/did...
18 - *Chi of Yore* genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
19 - *Kaeya Character Story #4* genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
20 - *NanBeidou* / 1451878865182380033
21 - *Bit of Aerosiderite* genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik... - Ігри
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Plot twist: Aether is the leader of the treasure horders. How do you think he is so good at finding every single treasure
he actually got a special map from the gods that shows the location of everything ever [its the interactive map]
well we do use the treasure hoarder drops to craft the treasure compasses
He is the god of thieves from the "we will be reunited" quest
Honorary bro of the south
@@devgovindgokulnair4463 thats amazing
Kaeya is their spymaster, clearly. You don't _call_ your spymaster "spymaster," you give them some euphemistic name, like "Cavalry Captain."
LOL that's actually a fair point.
That's explain why he wasn't taken by the grand master along with the whole of the cavalry
This is too good to not be canon lmao
I guess that could also explain why Diluc, KoF's former Cavalry Captain, immediately felt right at home with the intelligence guild that he enlisted on during his little soul-searching, being-a-menace-to-the-Fatui trip after his dad croaked. He already has prior experience.
But Cavalry Captain is already a position within the knights.
Before Kaeya, Diluc was cavalry captain, he also seems to have a wide reaching spy network and knows a lot of things about treasure hoarders etc.
I think it just makes sense to have someone keeping an eye on them and it might as well be the Cavalry Captain, especially since we see that the Recon captain is EULA, someone who seems to be well known since she's a Lawrence, and also not that good at actually talking to people, meanwhile Kaeya is a good liar and a sweet-talker so it makes sense that he's the one gathering intelligence.
I always found Kaeya's position in the knights really weird, because he does seem more like the one in charge of investigations or covert ops rather than cavalry. I understand that he needs to do something since all the horses went on the expedition (why did Varka take the cavalry, but not his cavalry captain with him?), but Albedo is supposed to be the investigation team captain and Eula is suppose to be recon, although I'd argue that recon seems to be more Amber's job than Eula.
Nobody is doing what they are supposed to be doing, haha.
i knoww! Well thats the nation of freedom to you hahah
knights of favonius, always so inefficient
No wonder why Jean is overworked.
Who better to lead the actual recon group than someone seemingly unrelated? *Especially when you officially have someone else in the position* ;P
@@peac3thegreat Seriously, I love Mondstadt and its people, but when the Acting Grand Master of the Order is being asked to run around the city looking for cats while there are actual threats like the Fatui plotting to take over the city, the limited resources of the knights are being misused. Could Margaret not have walked ten feet from her usual patrol zone to the Adventurer's Guild and put a commission instead of climbing to the Ordo Favonius HQ to ask the leader of the knights to help? Heck, Diona goes cat hunting in her hangout on Margaret's orders, so this makes even less sense.
Jean is a wonderful person and beloved by the citizens, but she really needs to learn how to say no.
scaramouche: the stars and the sky and moon is a lie!!!!!!!
Ashikai: Yah wait lemme reveal it real quick
The sun : I'm a joke to you?
@@guillermocervisalmeron2209 just bc the moon always the same people think its fake lmao
@@Asm0sday i mean, it certainly is weird
@@Asm0sday Well maybe the moon in teyvat is the dead sister moon? From that one book in game? And it's her corpse, so it never changes?
@@user-bj4iq7fs1e ye that moon aint movin anymore
This thumbnail:
Me: *I think not!!*
"Mihoyo doesn't do coincidences"- some Genshin theoriest probably.
well diluc also has an intelligence network so basically mondstat has the best intelligence operatives in all of teyvat similar to Redainian Intelligence from the Witcher
Traveler: *busts into the Angel's Share* "Is anyone here not a spy?!"
Kaeya: ...
Diluc: ...
Rosaria: ...
Albedo: ...
Venti: *raises his hand, lowers it, then raises it again*
Lisa: "I don't know who told you, but I am not affiliated with the Hexenzirkel!"
That organisation was also the one who oppose the fatuis and saved diluc also when Harbinger were coming to kill him because he destroyed many fatuis post
@@cassandrawasright1481 uh whats the hexensomething
@@kshetijabheru2229 it's like... Socialite mage groupie thing. Lol. Lisa explained it at one point. ....or i think it was in her voicelines relating to Mona??
@@cassandrawasright1481 Kazuha himself can hear the wind. If kazuha can do that, barbatos can definitely do that too. So venti might not be a spy but he definitely has a network of his own 🤔
Kaeya is one of the most interesting characters, always happy to learn anything new about him. The peacock constellation story makes a lot of sense! Cannot wait to go to khaenri'ah 10 years from now 😬
I'm pretty sure the 10 year plan was exchanged for a four year plan, so a little sooner=)
@@kejty7201 4 YEARS??? Where do you find that? I wrote an explanation why I thought that didn’t make sense but then I read it and it just agreed with what you said lol
It was in an interview that happened this year basically they are releasing one region per year so we have 3/7 which means we have about 4 years left
WAIT I THOUGHT HIS CON WAS A SWAN-
That theory freaking slapped omg-
I was wondering myself why Kaeya knew so much about the treasure hoarders. Even in his character profile that has a story called the list, where the traveler talks about a document Kaeya wrote about pretty much every bandit in mondstadt’s vicinity, including high ranking treasure hoarders.
*this theory ties that together so well, omg- and the fact that treasure hoarder insignias are also called raven insignias, and the ties with the upside down teyvat theory PLS-*
It's not just Kaeya's eye that has a four-pronged star in it. Dainsleif's does, too. I'd wager it represents the eyes of Khaeneiah more than a sun. So a raven encircling an eye would point heavily toward Odin or at least prophecies.
Treasure Hoarders : Baby we just a Human organization who loves to steal stuff and Enjoy life
Ashikai : I don't think so
*starts searching the deep lore to introduce Stars and Constellation*
As we all know by now, MHY doesn't do coincidences
In terms of ravens/crows and the sun, Chinese mythology also has one: There used to be 10 ravens in charge of being the sun and they took turn everyday. Once they all came out in on day, causing suffering for human. Thus, a human/demigod, who is also a talented archer, shoot 9 of them down and only leave 1 current sun ever since.
I read this story a long time ago in my native language, so I couldnt find the English sources of references
oh SNAP I forgot all about that myth. I remember talking about this with some other theorists AGES ago. Thanks for reminding me about it!!
~~venti shot all of timmie's birds... you cracked the code~~
that was in my elementary cn textbook
Is this the hou yi and chang’e myth?
@@Ososkkisksksmssmsmssmssms Yes. Hou Yi is the archer, but there were multiple variations of how the myth ended. This is typically the prologue to their very tragic story.
Yoooo Kaeya's name has to be the "Kaja- Jackdaw bird" interpretation. It makes wayyyy too much sense. It would be natural that if Kaeya's surname is Germanic, and Khaenri'ah has heavy Germania and Scandanivian elements, that you take the "Y" in his name and flip it into "J" since in these languages, the "J" is pronounced as a "Y." Omg and the symbolism regarding Odin's ravens. Heck, Odin wears an eyepatch! He sacrificed his eye in order to see everything that happens in the world. Sus but mind-blowing 😮😮
My personal theory is that Teyvat is a disc, and Khaenriah is on the other side. This would explain how going down in the Abyss leads you to space, how the domains in the ruins of Khaenriah have a sky, and even the "as above so below" mirrored tablet in the domains.
Edit: it would also literally put Khaenriah "on the other side of the horizon".
Bennett's constellations are this pattern but broken. It looked like a broken Eclipse pattern. Not sure if anyone else noticed this.
Bennett theory when??
Now the treasure hoarder ascension badge makes sense
Can we also talk how weird Bennett's upbringing is? The dude was found in a unexplored dungeon full of deadly traps. A "Hell on Earth". Babies just don't pop inside deadly dungeons. Babies with reality-bending levels of misfortune. Yeah, Bennett is weird as fuck.
Bennett's constellation is a broken wheel
broken da broken?
in the "Heart of Depth" artifact set the "Copper compass" artifact has the description "An ancient bronze compass. Its needle points towards some ever-distant shore, to a non-existent harbor.". this may support your theory. the rest of the set has some information about it too. you should check it out if you didn't
Oh hey I forgot about that set. I'll do that, thanks!
I think that set's lore is actually about events that happened during Mondstadt's aristocratic period, around 1000 years ago. The drunken chief mate was once a Mondstadt noble who became a phantom thief who robbed the rich to give to the poor using the Alley Flash sword. He was eventually driven out of town so his half-brother Eberhart(from the Gladiator's set and Dragonspine ancient journals) could usurp his title, and that's when he became a sailor. The lore of the Heart of Depth set itself leads up to his death, as no one returned from that voyage to slay the sea monster. However, its greatsword-torn carcass did wash up on the shore, and was made into the Serpent Spine greatsword.
Yeah, I double checked. The set and story (iron sting, serpent spine, + book) are all about sailors from Mondstat... where the heck the port is though is anyone's guess.
Remember when we found a dead treasure hoarder the first time we arrived at the Defiled Statue in Dainsleif archon quest? I believe the treasure hoarder group is definitely suspicious.
Ah yes I remember someone suggested that teyvat was upside down because in the abyss you dont actually go down the stairs but go up instead.
I remember during Mona's event, we looked into the memories of the man who create the first prototype for the wing glider and his goal was to reach the highest mountain and from what we gathered is that the highest mountain point in his time was very short and reachable for us in the modern day (i forgot the location, sorry) so my speculation is that to modern Teyvat Khaenri'ah is the underground city while 500 years ago it was above ground
The location was musk reef where the spiral abyss is. It used to be the mountain known as pilos peak.
@@Ashikai pilos peak
Don't it like.. venti destroy the place or something happen?
Either he terraformed it due to the flat peak or was drowned since Mondstadt used to be a barren icy land and is now the lively plains we know now thanks to Barbatos
Barbatos yeet mountains to the sea which formed the golden apple archipelago, he might also make the mountain shorter so that it easier to reach the spiral abyss for reason unknown(because despite his ehe ehe demeanour, Venti actually smarter than he acts.)
Isn't it actually implied that, after falling from the sky, Traveler Twins landed in Khaenri'ah? If so, it's impossible to fall from the sky and land on something underground. Also "underground" here may be used in a less literal sense, as in trying too stay unnoticed and/or trying to secretly do things that you'd otherwise be prevented from doing.
WOOOOO, YEAH BABY! THATS WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR. THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT!
ua-cam.com/video/sBmjUoB5OPo/v-deo.html pretty much
Lol
Lol
The Treasure Hoaders look for test subjects because they are the people of Khaenri'ah that lived. Perhaps they are a branch that wasn't there on the day their people were turned into creatures of the Abyss so they remain human and changed their identity to that of a Treasure Hoader. Kaeya and his father are part of this branch of Khaenri'ah humans that lived. The people of Khaenri'ah were too intelligent for their own good (so they were destroyed by Celestia) and what do intelligent people do? They do tests! Treasure Hoaders want to test living beings to see if they can find a way of reversing the effects of their people who are now creatures of the Abyss.
The Treause Hoaders are always depicted as a group that is able to easily toss away their morals since they commit acts of theft and violence. They don't care about others except for themselves, so it's safe to assume that they really don't care about experimenting on other beings against their will.
@A z A I definitely agree with you! But there’s one thing I don’t get… time! Everything happened 500 years ago yet these humans are still alive… I heard of a theory involving the “God of Time” but I totally forgot everything about it
@@japanesefoodyum oh I know this is kind of a stretch but it might have to do with Kaeya's constellation is pavo ocellus and part of it means peacock and peacocks symbol resurrection! Maybe that's a hint to something
@@japanesefoodyum Maybe the treasure hoarder's are like the twins. They are khaenrian people cubed into stasis by the heavenly principles. They woke in a time skip seeing that their entire civilization is gone, that's why they are seeking treasures in ruins. Is the abyss sibling being deceived by the abyss? Maybe that's why Deinsleif is now trying to save the abyss sibling because he realized that they are being used by the abyss.
Remember that Kaeya also befriended the Abyss agents that infiltrated Mondstadt and got information out of them about the "Prince/Princess" or as we know, the other twin...
He's way too sus
Raven/Crows also the one that teaches human how to bury the dead body on the Habil and Qabil story, but i dont think this helps that much...
My theory is that Kaeya hides his eye because it's like the mark of Cain, where anyone who sees it knows you've been marked for punishment by the gods. If it's also an eye through which Khaenria watches AND something to do with the treasure hoarders it would be awesome.
I also don't think all domains and the abyss are necessarily connected to Khaenria because Dragonspine showed us that multiple civilizations aside from Khaenria got wiped out or forgotten.
It still amazes me how Mihoyo is able to create stories like this. Ones that are able to make us think.
Someonr made a point that in the spiral abuss and domains, you a sc e n d to the main area, instead of walking downstairs
YUP!!!
Yeaaa I always wondered that myself but my friends just go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not to mention it was on the TALLEST mountain in Teyvat. Well, until Venti flung it into the ocean, but funny how the Abyss has so much to do with going UP.
@@alvernia. I tend to not give it too much weight myself despite it being observable. There's too much precedent in Honkai to take the Abyss at face value.
In every outer-dimensional region (so far) spatial relationships have had no meaning and up/down ended up being a "product of the observer" so to speak.
The Abyss going up could be a clue that Teyvat is upside down but it could also be a hint that it's one of those outer-dimensional spaces.
@@xX-fd2qj Oohh I see, thanks for the insight!
just when you thought MiHoYo couldn't get more convoluted than The Imaginary Tree, Sea Of Quanta and anchored/unanchored (bubble) universes, they add all this extra stuff to the Genshin idea...interestingly a big part of what causes many universes to become unanchored and become bubble universes (in which they slowly degrade and will eventually be erased) is that they become too technologically advanced and are either cast adrift in the quantum sea of "cleansed" by the Honkai in the existing sense, basically reset and wiped of all life which somewhat fits with the Genshin's history. Like it's pretty clear that Celestia is kinda sus at this point and also kinda fit's with the Tsaritza having access to the highest grade of technology since she's the only one seemingly actively combating "the cycle". Now obviously it doesn't have to work by the same rules but it is pretty much confirmed Genshin/Honkai are in the same multiverse just very far apart (ya know because excuses for characters to look similar and stuffs) so food for thought
You know, Aether and Lumine actually have a similar looking symbol in their clothing, specifically the 'Sun' symbol, though they ALSO have the sun in the moon (or Eclipse symbol) in the back of their outfits (more obvious on Lumine's dress). There's like zero actually fleshed out theory from me, but i cant stop thinking about Dainsleif saying how "she too loved these flowers". To me it seems he's talking to the traveler when he says that line, so what if eventually we actually get to see this field of flowers from the travail trailer with Dainsleif? This would imply that this field of flowers (flowers that Lumine has in her hair) could possibly be in Teyvat, Khaenriah or the Abyss. Now, if you pair this along with the theory of the twin's homeland once being part of Teyvat... it paints quite an interesting picture, no? Well, in any case, I believe the twins were connected to this world way before they fell into Teyvat. There's just a bit too many things to dismiss them as mere coincidences....
“I bet you don’t remember kaeya’s story quest...”
me, a kaeya simp who rewatches his scenes when I miss him: oh yeah what do you bet
edit 1: i made a mistake when writing his ascension materials... sorry kaeya mains
wait so...
the treasure hoarder insignia is a bird in a shape of a moon holding a star (most likely some sort of treasure since birds are associated with liking shiny things a lot in stories) which looks very similar to the moon holding the spyral abyss "star"
kaeya's constellation is "peacock's eye/eyespot" and his eye is in a shape of a primogem
peacocks are symbolically associated with royalty, nobility, watchfulness, guidance, rebirth, the cycle of time and immortality and so many other things.
though, peacocks are also associated with bad luck.
the name alberich in german means "ruler of supernatural beings (elves)" and dwarf that guards a treasure.
i am not even mentioning the fact he is very similar to a cryo abyss mage
also, his accession materials are treasure hoarder insignias and cecilias
i already talked about the insignias so let's about calla lillies
calla lililes have petals which make up 2 triquetra symbol, the symbol of the cycle of life (life-death-rebirth) and he has a passive talent called glacial heart which has a symbol with 2 triquetras, one normal and one upside down.
this man was sus and is still sus on an extreme level
He uses Calla lillies not Cecilias
@@drinkthestorm275 ty for correcting me
And that's why he's my favorite :D
Kaeya has at least 2 informants to be exact: Vile and Nimrod. Nimrod sometimes manifests himself too much as an undercover informant within the treasure hoarders that he refers himself as a treasure hoarder too. To simply put it, I think that the information gets passed from Nimrod (undercover informant) to Vile (middleman) then to Kaeya. Also, Kaeya mirrors Rostam's role 500 years ago as someone who has a shady underground network working for him. Whether it has a connection or not, it's still quite interesting.
As for the treausure hoarders being connected with Khaenri'ah, I say they are in a way... at least for the ones at the higher/highest echelon of their organization. I bet that most of the treasure hoarders are just petty theives who are out there trying to get easy money. Going by your theory, I think that the treasure hoarder network is just a front. They probably have a deeper connection with Khaenri'ah, specifically between the highest authorities of the treasure hoarder organization and the alchemists of Khaenri'ah. The alchemists of Khaenri'ah are most likely practicing a dangerous kind of Khemia behind closed doors, so what other means are there for them to gather materials, test subjects and large amounts of data without garnering attention to themselves? The treasure hoarders, of course! The grunts can take all the treasures they could find in the ruins as long as they bring back the data they could find to their leaders. Then the leaders of the treasure hoarders will the data back to the alchemists. I wouldn't even be surprised if the true leaders of the treasure hoarders themselves are of Khaenri'ah descent and/or alchemists.
The crow that swallowed the sun; the Heart of Naberius; Rhinedottir who disappeared after finding it; Alberich who has the same name as that one guy from that play or something who stole RhineGOLD from the RHINEMAIDENS ---------> Kaeya is the SON of Naberius confirmed. Also, Naberius of Ars Goetia often takes the form of a raven and is associated with persuasion, which is something the silver-tongued bastard is more than proficient at. Wait, he might literally be a bastard though :[]
If we wanna be a little sneaky, then the crow technically 'Eclipses' the sun, so... Naberius might have something to do with the Eclipse Dynasty. And the Spiral Abyss namecard technically has an Eclipse in the middle of its Spirals.
Also, Kaeya having an Eyepatch and using a group associated with Ravens for information is such Odin vibes we should just start calling him the Allfather at this point.
I think enough people call him daddy already.
@@Ashikai The Alldaddy?
Kayea: im not your king
The fandom: hes the kheanraih's king!
Oooohh~ well... He can the father or all my--
Well this looks interesting as frick.
Agreed
Also, I was wondering because I know that you have already said that you think that Kaeya = Su:
What do you think about the possibility of Baizhu being Su?
Even Baizhu's hair from the front looks like Su in the Honkai sprite. This, their connection to medicine, and Baizhu curiously being the only dendro vision holder we are introduced to.
I know that is it a far stretch, but how come that as a 'human', Baizhu has an incurable disease like Xiao's karma?
Could he have been the god of forests who faked death/rebirth (e.g. Morax) and fled and set up a pharmacy, like Bai Suzhen from the legend of the great white snake?
Then, if he is or was a god, could his disease instead by a curse of the cataclysm?
If not that, I still feel suspicious about Baizhu lol
Oh Baizhu sus as hell. I dunno about the Baizhu = Su theory, mostly because the only thing connected them in Dendro/Plant motifs. I'm more inclined to say that the Peacock motif shared by Kaeya and Su is considerably more specific and hard to ignore, but honestly? Anything goes at this point.
OMG about Baizhu can be referencing Bai suzhen!!! I think this is very posible!! In that white snake tale, Bai Suzhen's lover Xu Xian is a apprentice or a student of a pharmacy!!
Me: Pretty snake man. :)
The community: *So he may be a god-*
imagine if kaeya is the equivalent of kevin in genshin because kaeya is the last hope for khaenri'ah while kevin is fulfilling project stigma for the survival of humanity
@@TheBelovedBun
Remember Guoba?
Me: Cute Cuddly Panda :)
The community: *So he may be a god-*
Mihoyo: *sips traveler gacha tears*
Ok but im *SURE* that Bao’er is gonna be very important in the future when we get to know more about treasure hoarders
leaks for 2.4/// you're probably right, there's apparently gonna be a new treasure hoarder class (called elite treasure hoarders, i think) and there's a hoarder with bao'er's model, who throws an axe and has very high hp, in 2.4.
@@faenights I know about that,but that’s not Bao’er so i don’t think there’s a connection :3
Ohh this is such a great video!!! I've heard a lot about the moonson flower meaning behind kaeya's name but this is the first time hearing a different interpretation and am absolutely blown away how well you connected "kaija" to khaenriah. I absolutely love your videos but sometimes have trouble picking up the details cause of asd. Is it possible to add subtitles to the videos? If so it would be so helpful, thanks for ur awesome content^^
Hmm I'll look into it. I'm not actually sure what's involved with putting in subtitles. It's a good feature to have for sure, and I WOULD like to do that.
GOSH I CANT WAIT FOR THIS THEORY I LOVE WATCHING GENSHIN THEORIES SM I SWEAR
I think that the treasure hoarder coins are khaenriah's version of mora, and I believe that everybody from khaenriah will be connected to some type of Norse mythology
I was thinking so long that musk island was sus cuz it looks like moon.
Here's another mythology link: Freki and Geri are sibling characters from Mondstadt. They can be found hanging around Chef Mao in Liyue. Freki and Geri are the names of Odin's wolves.
I think it's also interesting to note, the Treasure Hoarders and the Abyss have similar technology Crossbows, Alchemy etc, things that aren't well understood in Teyvat, I mean a Balista is soon as some great archon weapon in Liyue and the people of Teyvat still only use bows, the treasure hoarders and hilichurls have better technology or at least weaponry than we do.
The best way to hide secrets is in plain sight, the more we see something and get used to its presence the less suspicious we tend to be.
I just thought a lot of the domain stuff is just sub space creation magic, or just general space magic that powerful gods on similiar or higher level with archons are able to do. For their existence to be a result of the cataclysm is highly possible since the magic cubes used to 'destroy' Khaenri'ah can also relocate certain locations as shown in the beginning of the game where the Sustainer separates the twins.
I really called this theory being about "Kaeya, treasure hoarders *and* pirates"
10:40 Kaeya also makes himself look appealing and trustworthy. He is trying to pass himself off as a mondstater (kind of).
11:55 - alcohol and people involved in months long ship travel in the old days are related. Stored water would eventually go bad, so some sailors would put whiskey in water to prevent it from going bad or just store wine
For those who missed the Golden Apple archipelago event:
Structures in that region were upside down too.
I forgot about thiiiiis. That one island with the secret seelie that had an upside down building and when we followed the seelie up it led us to the thousand winds temple....which is right side up....
The four-point star inside a circle is also on Kaeya's gloves
The treasure hoarders "sun" is actually an eclipse. You can see that it isnt a completly round disk but it have a crescent style to it. Moon, sun, star in one symbol.
Also take note of that there are two very important ravens in Norse mythology, Hugin and Munin, who circled the globe looking and gathering all the information they could for Odin. Sound like something? Like a world wide organization looking for treasures?
Crack pot theory: Fischl is Odin and the boss of all the treasure hoarders!
But seriously though. Do take note that Fischl share a loooot of similarities to Odin. She use thunder (more associated with Odins son Thor but still), she have a raven whom actually gets depicted in norse styling, she wear an eye patch too! Sure she still has her eye but you know.
She is also someone who deals with gathering information.
And an interesting thing is that while she do spout german words, it seems she sometimes have trouble using them, and most people dont seem to understand those words...this is a theory of my own but I think that german in mondstadt is a dead language. Sure a few words may be used here and there but it dont mean they speak the language...like with Latin. many language has latin words and latin pop up now and then but we just dont speak it. Most of the names in mondstadt are in english, not german...while most other location in Liyue and Inazuma has Chinese and Japanese names. Isnt that odd? And on top of that, the two most prestigeous clans who would be closest to ruling Mondstadt, Brynhildr and Ragnavindr, have nordic names. Why wouldnt they have german names and be based on german characters? Yet it seems Jean is based on a valkyrie, and Diluc is based on Batman. HAHA Just joking! Sorry. I actually dont know what Diluc is based on but I have suspicions that he and Kaeya are actually based on Thor and Loki. Hear me out, I know it dont quite fit since Thor was the god of Thunder and has goats, but Thor is traditionally depicted as a red head and Diluc has red hair too. Diluc has an adopted brother whom he dont get along with, and Thor had Loki as a brother and they too dont get along well all the time. Kaeya was a spy from Khaenriah, and Loki was a Jotun or half jotun...uh the myth is very messy on what Loki really is but he definitively was partially an outsider who lived with the Aesir. And there is one more connection. The battle pass snake. If the battlepass snake that corrupted Lumine is actually the Abyss Order...Diluc is constantly fighting against the abyss order... That mirrors how Thor always want to fight the midgard snake. And that means.... Kaeya might trigger another Ragnarok and Diluc might die just like Thor...
ow that got dark^^;
I hope Im wrong on that point. But for the most I think Im right on the inspiration of them..Most of them are based on different tales and myths...like Klee is clearly Little Red Riding Hood and Razor is Big Bad Wolf, Lisa and Mona are from Monalisa, and Albedo may be Pinocchio...Im not so sure about the last one, and I havent been able to identify all as I havent had time to dig into them and match them up with a story.
By the way, Ashikai. if you need help with norse mythology, norse and swedish stuff, you can contact me, I am swedish.
And, even if Khaenriah is an underground kingdom dont mean that they couldnt have some on ground locations. Remember the original trailer had Lumine running and she was above ground at that time. I have all along speculated that Khaenriah is on the other side of the sea of Mondstadt, due to the traveler washing ashore in Mondstadt and Kaeya being there. Of course, the unknown god could have moved across the world several times over before the traveler was dumped but who knows?
But I dont think the treasure hoarder "alchemists" are really alchemists. I think they stuff slimes into those vials and thats how they get used like molotov cocktails. Remember that we cannot make exploding potions when we do alchemy, you would think that if anybody could do an elemental exploading potion its the traveler. Their entries atmost say their concotions are chemical, not alchemical. While those sound similar they are very different things... Alchemy turns one thing into another by almost magical formulas but chemistry is based heavily on mixing solutions based on their atomic structures to get different compounds like acids, perfumes, flavourings.
:0 I'll remember that!
Hi, I just want to point out that Loki and Thor were never actually brothers; they were completely unrelated. I like your theory, though.
I can imagine Kaeya turning into a snake to try and kill Diluc
WOW! And just thinking that the guys at miHoyo made up all those stories for every single character makes your head spin, i mean i bet that if there's research done on every charater there will be found at least one link with the real world
Additionally, you know what else likes treasure (or anything bright and sparkly)? Members of the Corvus family of birds.
And in chinese and japanese myth, The Sun is believed to be embodied by the form of a Raven (Check _Hou Yi_ and the _Yatagarasu_ myths, specifically)
Very fascinating video. There's really not much I can say other than how convincing this evidence looks, even without the confirmation.
I'd like to take a wild guess and insert my own theory:
Tehvat is Geocentric, just consider the stationary Full Moon and sun. Ya if the moon is always Full then in respect to the sun it doesn't move, it's just Tehvat itself. (I have this image of a coin flipping inside a glass ball painted with stars)
As far as the underground ruins in the game I'd expect they are all of Seelie architecture. That is before they lost their memory, human like forms and were still worshipping the Triple Lunar Goddess because the moon had cycles back then prior to the Eclipse. (Ya can't have an Eclipse without cycles so the moon being locked permanently just outside the Tehvat umbra is quite interesting)
Also worth noting is how much closer the moon appears in Domains and the Spiral Abyss. Obviously they must be closer to the lunar sphere then Tehvat itself.
Can you imagine if the moon got stuck blocking the Sun instead of in its Full position, Tehvat would have become a world of perpetual darkness. Feeling a definite Night Mother theme there.
Also think about when scaramouche said the sky and stars aren't real in the falling stars event that could support this theory
Celestia is also behind the Moon, which shouldn't be the case.
As for the moon itself, it's the floating corpse of one of the Triple Lunar Goddesses
@@swordzanderson5352 triple Goddess as explained by the phases of the moon. Waning, Full and Waxing. This is why they followed one another taking turns in the sky until the moon got locked into place. All 3 Goddess's just different faces of the same moon.
@@witchcandy3671 isnt it said the other 2 moon crumble and leaving only one in the sky. If it same moon then it won't crumble unless the other side of the moon hollow.
@@shiroxkuro934 Crumble to dust which is an interesting choice of words because the entry to the sky realm at the start of the game is shown crumbling. Now check this part out, I think you'll find it interesting. Not only does the moon's cycles freezing explain how each moon taking its turn once a month in order passage but if you think about the mechanisms that moved the moon to show different cycles were what crumbled to dust then the frozen lifeless (unchanging) dead moon is very much the one and same. Like a broken clock, the gears literally crumbled to dust and now it sits there motionless as Tehvat continues to spin on it's rotation.
Thanks for pointing this out, I wouldn't have thought of the crumbling sky Pillars if you hadn't said anything. The clue is also seen in the start up as it's the only moon shown not completely full.
Bandit King Kaeya can't help Uncle Dain with destroying the Abyss without having ears and eyes everywhere
EDIT: Xinyan rides with Beidou, Bennett is an Adventurer- plundering treasure is the MO of the actual "field", and Yanfei is a fucking Attorney. Attorney rates are literal robbery, no matter how good the counsel is. I'd say it fits, lol
I just read someone's post on facebook saying that Musk reef looks like an "Okay" gesture. 🤣👌
I can't wait for Tectone to watch this on stream, and say its all bs in the beginning, then be slowly won over by Ashikai's cool theories as the video continues omegalul. ♥️😂
OH MY GOD ARE WE THE UNDERGROUND?!?! This is so cool!! Fuck I love it, and I’m so hyped. Also I thought I loved Kaeya already but you always just give me more and more reasons. I really love his crime connections honestly. And I’ll never be able to look at the gravediggers the same way again
Actually, Full on Recon is part of the Cavalry's roll, mainly that of the light Cavalry units.
Channels like Shadiversity and Mettatron have dedicated topics on the matter. Pitch battles almost always start between skirmishes of opposing recon Cavalry.
That's not *quite* the same as having an intelligence network, but I get what you mean. I should have been more clear about what exactly I was referencing.
Found this channel recently and i am loving it! The research, time and observation you put into these videos are really commendable...
It's always amusing to watch your videos because they are always so in depth, plus you take your time to elaborate everything. I really liked the raven part.
It’s so fun when you go down a rabbit hole, just to then come out the other side and blow my socks off. Going on a binge of all of your content and I had to subscribe. Your analyses and enthusiasm bring a spark to my Genshin experience and all I can say is thank you, and keep up the great work!
I haven't seen anybody mention that Kaeya's name writes as ガイア and reads as 'Gaia' in Japanese! ガイア is the Japanese spelling of the goddess Gaia. The one of the Greek primordial deities. The Earth herself. The Mother. The Wisdom Keeper. Also I think it's important to say that she can be described as the main antagonist of the other gods. I believe that this interpretation of his name is also important.
marathoning these rn,,, you’re the only person i’ve seen that’s taken such an interest in the lore and i’m Soooo excited for more releases let’s fuckinghgoooooo
K but when the time arrives, we need a kaeya lore video
My notes on him are so long that I have no idea when I'll get to that video. At this point I could probably just make a compilation video from all of these other videos that I've mentioned him in...
You continue to be the best Genshin lore content creator out there! Thank you so much for creating interesting, thought-provoking videos with impeccable production values. You rock! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
During the video Dottore felt betrayed.
Btw that cliff hanger was cruel!! Lol.
14:40 that's when Dottore felt betrayed.
This video was amazing as always, but I am SUPER hyped for part 3. The way you set that up at the end was beautiful. 😌
That's actually a really good theory! You made me wanna watch part one and also the domain video
as a swede, i gasped when i heard the kaja with a j sentence
Its all fun and games till ashi points out and cracks open another huge part of lore thats been staring us right in the face 😩 how do you do it hahaha ///edit post watching the video: so we were in hell this whole time. but what are we/citizens of teyvat being punished for? dun dun duuuuuun
Never clicked on a video so fast your theories are the best!
I believe the shape in Kaeya's eyes are to indicate that he is from Khanri'aeh/Abyss, since he and Dainsleif have the same pupil design. I also think his covered eye is related to the fact he is his people's last hope, or, as some redditors have theorised, a "time bomb" (whether he realises it or not). Interestingly, Dain has a similar mask, so it may also be to hide some Abyss corruption.
But of course that's just my theory, and I think the pirate thing might be more related to the truth than we think (it feels like one of those seems-like-an-obvious-lie claims that later turns out to be true as an uno reverse card plot twist). Super enjoyed your theories as well and looking forward to the third part!
As a last side note, for in-depth character analysis, I also recommend looking at the characters' outfit descriptions (accessed from the lil hanger icon when changing wind gliders), and namecard descriptions. Maybe you already know this, but I recently discovered some pretty interesting stuff in there (esp in Kaeya's namecard re: his eyepatch and overall eye symbolism), so thought I'd let you know just in case! :D
The way you weave the points all together is amazing, they really all made sense
I think the treasure hoarders might be working with the fatui. In the Manga we see dottore experiment with archon residue on people, they need to get the „test subjects“ from somewhere right? But the fatui are diplomats. Diplomats don’t go randomly kidnapping people. So that leaves them to hire people like colleis village chief. Or… the treasure hoarders.
There's a thought...
This Teyvat world structure series Is gonna be soo good !!!!!!!! Already love both the videos & excited for part 3 💯
Oh boy this set up a lot of things (what do u know a set up video set up things), and then that cliffhanger.
Can't wait for part 3 now!!!
Thnx for the brilliant theories as always
As always a great theory! I was so lost at some point that I had to watch it again, but is just me having a lot of things on my mind.
idk if anyones eversaid this but how you control ur voice is super cool and makes the video much more fun over thory videos where a bunch of info is just thrown at ur face
Really great and interesting video, I never thought of the origins of the treasure hoarders, except from the fact that indeed they just disappear, and their animation make me thinks every single time that they throwing a pokeball ! Even if it’s probably just another alchemy tricks that they had the secrets for
Thanks for this theory 💜
How did you even come up with these amazing theories? Like, you're so frickin talented at doing research, I could never- 😭💖
aaaa another theory from ashikai that will keep me up at night 😭😭
ty for making these theories, they're rlly interesting and fun to research :DD
I love your theories!!!! I just finished the Inazuma Archon quest so now I can watch those videos too!
I really like the theory about Kaeya being the Prince or something.... in which I'm so emotional everytime I remember he need to choice between two side.. His people or teyvat.
A red-Flag for some reason. anyway I main Kaeya
The final hyped me so much!! Great video as usual!
Thank you so much for this video, Ashikai! I like your channel a lot! ❤
oh this felt so short...I love your videos, I get immersed while listening.. 💜
but I understand this takes a lot of time
I came here to hear a lot about the symbols in the thumbnail not a lot about Kaeya. What a pleasant surprise~ Also, info gathering, in terms of Kaeya's, is not really a weird hobby. At least for me. If you were in a high position, i think having that is just a natural part of it. It's like, you just naturally create such from when you were in the low levels, so by the time you're up there, you'll have established it in an organized manner. Kaeya has the best position for the kind of network he has tho. Considering that the KoF deals with the good and bad, inside and outside, and the welfare of Mondstadt itself. Not to mention that Jean trusts Kaeya so much, and when she has to go out, she leaves the KoF to his care. It's so convenient to have info to his disposal.
Also, according to the description about him in his story, he's the one who patches up the cases around Mondstadt. To my understanding, basically he's the last to leave the battlefield. You get connections there from beaten up losers who can be negotiated with. ....to work for him or go to jail.... O-O
I believe it is also important to have an intel network tho. So relevant info comes earlier than trouble. Which makes it easier to deal with (when trouble do come) before it blows into an annoying case. It also makes his, and consequently Jean's, workload a little lighter. We all know that the KoF do really care for her. Kaeya too. He was the one who had the idea to give her that party and rest day when the chance presented itself. Or maybe because he wanted to be the one "running" the KoF at that one time? OAO lol.
He also has qualities that makes it easier for him to create connections tho. Like not just because he's a smooth talker, or he can bond easily with others because of alcohol, but he has looks that makes Vile easily be his simp. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The 1st day i got into Mondstadt and met her, all i was getting from her voiceline is tsundere vibes towards someone she "regret meeting" but then thinks of helping the person out anyways. And then regrets. Like gurl what?? I was suspicious of her words. But now, i have long since established that she is my love rival. LMAO. but fr tho... I believe she's about as big a simp for Kaeya as Donna is to Diluc. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Many things in-game hint that, like the phrase that Katheryne says meaning that venturing down into the abyss and out in the universe is one in the same, Albedo quoting that the universe is heaven reversed and the earth is a dream lost in time and also the fact that the Traveller states in one of it's dialogues that the stars he sees in the sky are different from the ones in his home and the fact the day and night are very short
You have such a soothing voice! Enjoy listening your theories!
Considering in the most recent patch we see the underground door to Khaenri'ah, it's safe to say it's actually underground.
But either Tayvat has to sides, and isn't actually a round planet is yet to be seen. Khaenri'ah could have a sky underground still.
This is the third video of yours I've binge watched just wanted to make a quick stop in the comment section to say i subscribed, and I really appreciate your incredibly well put together videos
Amazing theory as always but can we talk about how cool that Eula cutscene is?!?
You could talk about your groceries and I would still watch and listen because you are so convincing and your videos are very entertaining. Anything about Kaeya is also great ahah.
amazing as always. completely demolished any ideas i had about khaenri'ah and Teyvat.
Lol someone just confessed their love on live chat.
love live??
@@Ashikai haha that's one way to put it.
I wish I had you at school as the history teacher, or any teacher in general tbh. you explain everything so well & make it so interesting at the same time. love your content about genshin, please keep the great work 😊
ur channel discuss things that Im intersted in but didnt get explained by other channels :D
I really love your fun way of explaining everything! TYSM for your handwork!!
Goossssshhh this theory is soooo goood. When you said underground tunnels the only I oculd think about was the cretan labyrinth
These videos are always hype, very interesting stuff
i have a question
Isn’t teyvat kinda small? I mean from the new island to stormterror lair 10000 meters which is actually super close if you think about it cuz inazuma is fourthest nation from all other nations
Xiangling said she needed supplies for 2 days to get to mondstat and Paimon said they had to camp before they got the teapot.
Maybe I’m overthinking it but still why didn’t they put the correct meters
Maybe it's for game play purposes it might be actually bigger for npcs in game but it's smaller cause the devs can't exactly make it as if it were real?
But just my theory
Yeah but also I saw ashikai theory about the world is an astral something so maybe that theory is true and that’s why teyvat is small and that’s why the moon is always full. Then again I might be overthinking it xD
The Moonchase Festival gave a distance estimate of 2.5 miles or km from Wangshu inn to Guili Plains
In game it's like 500 metrs I think