[v2.2] The World Structure of Teyvat [World Structure Part 3] - A Genshin Impact Theory
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- In this video, we'll be exploring the possible structure and cosmology of the world of Teyvat. This is also part three of my World Structure Series so please make sure to watch parts 1 and 2. They do not necessarily need to be watched in order.
Part one - Visions and Radiation: • [2.0] Visions and Elem...
Part two - Treasure Hoarders: • [v2.2] Secret Origins ...
*Video Sources + Further Reading*
In no particular order because this video is a little all over the place.
Firmament in Gnosticism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmame...
Sheol: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheol
Sal Vindagnyr: genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Khaenri'ah: genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Geo Spectres: genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Tidbits on Leylines: genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Mitternachts Waltz: genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Pillars of Heaven: biblehub.com/job/26-11.htm
Biblical Cosmology: bibleproject.com/blog/creatio...
*Quick Jump*
0:00 Introduction
1:47 Disclaimer
3:46 What we know so far
9:44 The Firmament
11:58 The Ark
16:10 The Pillars of Heaven
20:47 The Gate of Heaven
24:16 Khaenri'ah
29:49 Conclusion - Ігри
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"I'll remind you again" at 2:56 was honestly so perfect, considering Yanfei is in the background. She really is the perfect mascot for your channel.
*yanfei intensifies*
“I’ll remind you again, the law is both a help and a hindrance.”
as a yanfei main i always hear "I'll remind you again, the law can be both a help and a hindrance."
I actually thought she might be her voice actress XDD
I KNOW RIGHT I WAS GONNA SAY
The two eldest archons: And that's the end of our detailed exposé on how the world came to be
Ashikai: Obviously not a word of that should be trusted.
Scaramouche: I could go for a burger
Ashikai: That statement blows open the whole theory of the world structure. When Scaramouche talks about burgers, what he means is to talk about layers, which is of course a direct reference to Dante's divine comedy. Now when you...
Perfect. Beautiful. Amazing.
Scaramouche-*breathes*
Ashikai-*goes on a full rant of world structure bc of Scaramouche*
@@Ashikai the star and sky in world of genshin is not actually a lie. nobody in tevyat should say stars and sky are fake if they live in a world where stars are "fruits" and sky is a "giant tree".
unless they are using other world concept of what stars and sky are (which cannot be applied in tevyat, different world different structure).
which in this case scaramouche probably uses khaenriah knowledge which most likely came from Lumine (lumine's world where stars and sky is probably like our real world).
@@someoneinasia he doesn't say "the sky isn't like mine". The meaning of lie is 'different from the truth' so he can simply mean people have misconceptions about the sky and their world
Doesn't this kinda make sense though? Our understanding of Archons at this time was as "servants of Celestia". If you suspect Celestia might be pulling funny business, it would follow that their loyal servants are either brainwashed, deceived, or lying. Of course, given that we're in 4.1 now, we have a lot more information and the context is different, but even at the time it makes a lot of sense not to just blindly trust what two two eldest archons (you could also phrase this as "the archons with the most direct ties to Celestia's influence") say to the Traveler.
Tbh, there might not need to be two separate gates, since the Spiral Abyss portal might very well be the one true gate of Heaven in this model. Note that Musk Reef was once the highest mountain not only in Monstadt, but ALL of Teyvat, only to be cut in half and and be flung into the seas by Venti(which seems suspicious in itself). In the cutscenes depicting this mountain, the peaks were nearly completely vertical, while the background sky started to change in colour. What if the portal was always there, even before Venti decided to yeet a hundred ton land mass into the deep seas?(which, btw, judging by how far Musk Reef is away from mainland, just imagine how tall the entire thing must be for it to STILL be peeking out of the water. Pine trees growing on it also suggest it was once a tall place)
“What skies conceal the waters reveal” -unreconciled stars
Maybe it means that the sky inside the firmament conceals the true sky while the side with water and khanri’ah reveals the true sky.
So the ocean doesn't reflect the stars, you're literally looking at the stars directly, as if through a window. Meaning the "real" sky above you is just a reflection of the stars visible in the water?
I just wanna add the kfc glider wings lore, Alice mentions that teyvat's "Boarders" is getting weaker and she will be busy that's why she can't be with Klee. Just wanna add that cause the borders she mention must be connected to the false sky. Anyways great video as always, really love the hard work you put in your videos
I interpreted that as teyvat Al’s “dimensional” borders, as those wings, along with many other objects associated with Alice are from other worlds
@@D3A6 Yeah, in the summer event she mention something about other worlds. I don't remember exactly what she said, so I may be wrong.
@@kathia1754 she also gave Barbara an idol magazine from another world
and then rifthounds seems to be the cause of the weakening borders as they are mentioned to be able to tear through dimension
And Alice is a part of Hexenzirkel, who's known for "irminsul exploration" like this makes so much sense now
Teyvat being a small safety bubble could explain why each of the regions are only a few kilometers across
I remember doing the mondstast story quest and early on during act I of it, wondering why the thousand winds temple is only 800 meters away from the city of mond, even though the open plains beyond the city made it seem further
The short distances could just be practical game design, but genshin has a lot of lore even in its mechanics, like wishes for example
Actually in game distance and in lore distance are different, same goes for ammount of people/building etc.
For example in moonchase quest it was told that distance between guili plains and liyue was 21 miles which is reduced to few hundred metres in game
@@AJ-jy6jq which is how many miles?
@@AJ-jy6jq Also if you've read the manga the city of Mondstadt is way bigger in universe than it is in game
I think they mainly keep things smaller in game for mobile players. A bigger world means more data to download and store, which means less phones and less people will be able to play the game.
As a native Hebrew speaker I must point to you the Difference between Teyvat (תיבת) and an ark or a box.
in hebrew, the straight translation to the word ark is תיבה (Teyva) and not תיבת(Teyvat).
If you use the word Teyvat, then a reference must come right after and it can't stand by itself.
for example, the Ark of Noah - Noah's ark - will be written as תיבת נוח (Teyvat Noah)
but just a random ark will be spelled תיבה (Teyva).
so if you do insist the connection to the hebrew word, then a second part of the world's name is missing - the refference of that ark. who it is belong to or what is its purpose, as תיבת (teyvat) cannot stand alone.
that's all I hope you find it helpful.
Thanks for clarifying!
But wouldn't that just mean that Teyvat belongs to someone? A "noah"?
(Either way I actually want to liken Teyvat to the Ark of the Covenant instead which was a box/chest so I'm good with either meaning.)
@@Ashikai well it wouldn't necesserily make it belong to someone, as it could also just have another adjective - but there's for sure a following word that is missing.
like in תיבת הצעות (Teyvat hatsaot) which translate to suggestions box. but it's just an example and my main point was that it can't come alone in this form.
I tried to find a similiar case in English. so for example you'll know this sentence is incomplete: "You're a good - ".
it's just like someone stopped in the middle and you know something must come after "good", like a boy or dog or whatever.
I hope it was clear enogh...
and I'm glad I could help.
"Teyvat celestia"
ישראליייים מה נשמעעעעעעע
@@Ashikai I agree, it should definitely be seen as a clue pointing to something.
Random thought in the middle of video... what if the Statues of Seven are pillars that hold up the firmament? The light of them can be seen from far away, reaching to the sky... just came to my mind when looking at the graph of the world of gnostism. I probably should watch the video until the end though... since there appear to be a section for the pillars... typical me of rushing on
how come Ashikai manages to pull everything off, this is just mind boggling.. so much information we are getting where in the game it's a scarce. As always, can't wait for Part4.. I'm just hyped up again, thanks Ashikai.. you're the best
the section about the gate of heaven actually reminded me of the "teyvat is upside down" theory (which you did actually address in the end of your khaenri'ah section).
if teyvat is upside down, then "descending" the spiral staircase from teyvat's perspective would take you up through the gate of heaven and... into heaven?
you essentially outlined this in your video, but i don't think the idea of an upside-down tree and the gate of heaven were actually connected. i don't know, thought i'd connect some other theories people have made as well! the "teyvat is upside down" theory has existed for a long time, but i've never really found a way to connect it with all the lore of the irminsul tree until this video. exciting stuff!! i'm really excited to see how everything comes together, both in your part 4 and in the game itself.
and further evidence to the idea of the world being upside down while i'm here, which i didn't see mentioned in the video....
- katheryne says "ad astra abyssosque" (to the stars and abyss), implying the two are linked (or opposite, but i mean...)
- in albedo's character demo, when he dramatically ponders the truth of reality, he's floating in front of an upside-down view of the world (ua-cam.com/video/A3U51KyZLxE/v-deo.html). he also immediately says "the starry void" in the next sentence.... hmmm... stars in the void... stars in the abyss...
- everything abyssal is AGGRESSIVELY space/star themed, between dainsleif, the eclipse dynasty, foul legacy childe's flowing cape...
- the games descriptions all talk about how the calamity "turned the universe upside down", and with contemplations about how "vision" and "delusion" could be literal terms, why not "upside down"?
I personally love the upside-down-Teyvat theory, even if it's not gonna turn out canon :) It also implies that Celestia isn't high up in the heavens and is instead deeper down and could be some sort of hell, which could connect to a lot of fan theories about Celestia not being as great as it seems, and the panel that we see from Vanessa's ascending in the manga (these are my personal rambling not to be taken seriously!)
Great video! I’d like to add that the constellations for each characters line up perfectly to the teleport waypoints in the game. More interestingly, each of them pertain to each destiny, for example Ganyus constellations line up perfectly to the teleport waypoints in the Minlin region of Liyue and Xiaos constallations line up at the teleport waypoints near the wangshu inn. i hope this information is useful :)
We should check other character constellations! Like Inazuma’s characters!
@@anitakhcreate WHAT?! I've been looking into Fischl and Oz's connections to the lore and specifically Tsurumi Island and I'm gonna see if hers is on the map as well.
This was so amazing! I'm so baffled that the Scaramoushe event was temporary. It's a literal story lore.
mihoyo doesnt want to give out free characters so they completely get rid of an event with story lore. 🤦♂️
@@xvoid3998 instead of just not giving the character they remove the event... That logic is something else.
So, with my Honkai tinfoil hat on, basically the Honkai won in that universe, so the Teyvat dimension fall from the imaginary tree into the Sea of Quanta, causing it to shrink and turn into a bubble universe, but survivors of the Teyvat Previous Era found a way to reattach the floating bubble universe to the roots of the Imaginary tree to keep it stable. In other worlds Teyvat is like Durandal's bubble universe that she protects inside her and that recently she manage to reattach to the Imaginary Tree.
If so that counters the whole concept of the Dark Sea, as it's said to be beyond the Firmament, many of the losing gods in the Archon War fled to it and even Orobashi entered the dark sea and returned to lead the people of Watatsumi, so there has to be a greater world beyond the bubble
Ashikai is carrying my brain's capacity of lore understanding and i am so thankful for all of her theories and speculations! You're one of the reasons i got so into genshin lore and get so hyped to read descriptions of every new piece of mats i get! Thank you!!
The Khaenri'ah sky also makes me think of Albedo's trailer where it looks like he falls through Teyvat (specifically Mondstat) but he is falling towards the sky instead of the ground, and considering what we know about Albedo this could be a massive hint towards the structure of Teyvat.
Really enjoy these videos while farming in genshin, makes the game more interesting.
The funny thing to me is that The part of khanri'ah being above is also a theory of mine sole based on the fact that khanri'ah and the abyss have a lot of references about stars and how it can be if they are supose to be underground? But the sky of teyvat is false so are the "stars" ,and the abyss can be the abyss of space the universe
Exactly! That's the most confusing thing.
@@Ashikai what if teyvat is "Hell" after all the GODS they have demons names , and i think the Travellers are supose to represent lucifer
@@Ashikai Now that I stopped to think, the 3 moon sisters story could be related to why the world tree is inverted upside down, they are supposed to change places somehow but if they failed something terrible would happen, this something terrible it could have been the world tree turning upside down, their failure caused the tree to invert and the current state of the world , this is a theory of course
@@lulute8 Teyvat could be hell, and it's pretty likely. The abysslings appear to be named after ranks/roles within a church while the Archons are "demon gods" named after Ars Goetia demons so... s'likely.
Same I also wondered that they have eclipse dynasty or eclipse right? Then how can they see eclipse if they live in underground???🌚
THIS IS SO GOOOOD. This series is changing the entire way I look at the world now. Now that this has been said it seems like this has to be it. The evidence is like everywhere in little hints.
Can't wait for part 4. I always start these videos skeptical like "eh. Is that really--?" and by the end I'm like totally convinced. That's a skill.
My theory about what Celestia is that I believe it's the eye of the deep, if Teyvat is actually really underground, that would make more sense because iirc, eye of the deep in Honkai is also underground (cmiiw). Celestia is the eye of the deep in Teyvat, and by going to it one will be able to go to the sea of quanta. As to why I came to this thinking is because the twins went to Celestia in order to leave Teyvat. I believe that in the universe the twins are in right now, Teyvat is the final world in that universe, so instead of going to the nxt world, the twins were trying to go to the next universe, that's why they went to Celestia to access the sea of quanta. However, according to the heavenly principles, only the chosen ones or those who is worthy to ascend to godhood can go to Celestia. The twins, when they went there, both of them weren't worthy of being a god yet so the Sustainer kicked them out and sealed their power to prevent them from trying the same thing. So, their actual goal in teyvat is to become worthy of ascending to godhood so they'll be able to enter Celestia. Lumine already travelled the whole of Teyvat before and was about to ascend to goodhood but then she witnessed what Celestia did to Khaenriah so she decided to lead the abyss instead.
So excited to see what this is gonna contain! I love this particular set of theories sm because I am so curious about visions and everything like that (and also the bomb you dropped last part)!
(part 2 isn't really going to be addressed until part 4 aahhhhhh)
@@Ashikai LOL, that's fine. It just means you are really trying to flesh things out, which is good! (Besides, I've never really been bothered by waiting for content, and that should be a given)
@Ashikai i still think yanfei is talking XD
@@jotana_ch same
12 hours? Mmmm! Perfect timing for ashikai's videos maraton while drinking a cup of tea c:
Always thought the Archon war was way more destructive than what was let on and Khandria was more its culmination than its eulogy. I think we are in what's left of khandria essentially the center of the world taken in by the last archon and the real world above is the ruin of the old world that keeps slipping through the cracks. Kind of also explains why the gods are much weaker then what their legend state. They gave up a hefty part oftheir power to create this bubble inside a dead world/ruins.
We just got a breakthrough from Ashikai the genshin physicists. Thank you for proposing the Inverted Tree Bubble Theory. Can't wait to hear more versions from other genshin scientist and historians too. Keep up the good work 👍
OMG I still cannot imagine how much lore was put in Genshin that we can’t see yet! And all these things are connected! The lore team has truly worked so hard on it! So many things like Gnosticism, Nordic mythology, Indian culture, there is so much to unpack.
Thank you for guiding me through it all, because I could never be able to solve the mysteries by myself lmao, feels like I’m in Scooby-Doo ❤️😂
Also, can I draw the map of Teyvat you described? Also, where can I send it to you? :D
Go for it! Easiest way is to reach me on twitter @ashikai, or just comment on any video/community post (but not as a reply, those get buried). I read every comment so I'll definitely see it.
thats exactly got me into Assassin's Creed. Using old history and myth with a character to bisect it.
I really want to know more about Gold. What could they do at their peak power?? How were they able to be so strong, so strong that they caused a massive dunk on literally everything 500 years ago? Are they a villain or a hero? What would their reaction be upon meeting the Traveller?
In the travail trailer every nation had an assigned chapter number except khanreah it was purposely blurred so there's some place or chapter between Snezhnaya and khanreah.
It’s 99% going to be Celestia or the Abyss I’m sure 😳
@@n1ghtmare145 ???
According to this theory speculation warning
Soo if there is this world tree that governs and controls the flow of leylines then the travellers had come from the door of heaven and fell through the trunk of the tree to kenheriah (srry wrong spelling) and then when they wanted to go back they were forced on to teyvat and this means when we go through the spiral abyss we are going back to kenheriah(since it is underground(techinically)) and this is a decent according to teyvat but is a acent through the top of the other side of the tree to kenheriah and therefore this is a decent from teyvat to kenheriah but we acending to the top of kenheriah also it could be that we are climbing the tree to the celestial or the edge of the 'dome' this does work out pretty well
HI IM BACK AND I JUST FINISHED ALL OF THE OTJER ONES. i had take a break since work and all, but damn your theories are CHEF KISS MUAH. send more pls 😤
The sky is a lie
this is good! and this is also what i actually believe and theorize for a while because in genshin official web page About Teyvat its also says the universe is turned upside down , this is what its says
" You have arrived in Teyvat - a fantasy world where the seven elements flow and converge.
In the distant past, the Archons granted mortals unique elemental abilities. With the help of such powers, people formed a bountiful homeland out of the wilderness. However, 500 years ago, the collapse of an ancient civilization turned the universe upside down...
Though the calamity the world suffered has ceased, peace has yet to be restored. "
and i also remember in Albedo's Trailer there is one scene that show Mondstadt is Inverted.
Interesting that Teyvat might be the root side, there are plants called nitrogen fixers irl that pull nitrogen up through the dirt and form clusters of it, kind of like the fake stars could be ley line clusters. I love your channel! Currently watching every video lol. Thanks for doing these!!
This is really good. I cant wait to see where Genshin's story goes
It's always scaramoche istg I'm pretty sure he'll come in sumeru archon quest and drop some lore bombs by talking about trees, you know what it actually seems accurate since tree=plants=dendro=dendro region=sumeru. Why is a abandoned prototype so important to the story oh my god
I have a question:
Why do all Genshin theories always seems to conclude that the world of Teyvat exist in two parallel world (Teyvat & Dark Sea/Khaenriah)? Wouldn't it make more sense if Teyvat is actually a spherical planet instead of parallel lines?
The reason why we are "ascending" instead of "descending" in the Spiral Abyss is because no one has ever gone to Khaenriah. The Spiral Abyss is recorded as "descending" because in Khaenriah's perspective, they're also ascending the floors of the Spiral Abyss to reach Teyvat.
The person who recorded the information about the Spiral Abyss could be the sole survivor of the Khaenriah's destruction. If this is true, it would make sense for them to write the history of the Spiral Abyss as "descending" since they are also climbing the stairs of the Abyss to reach Teyvat.
No, there have been many successful expeditions to Khaenri'ah. And the structure presented in this video IS spherical, it's just that I'm not proposing the idea that Teyvat is a planet, but that it is a biodome ON a planet (which is also spherical).
Part of the multiple world bit has to do with references in the game talking about "ruling over three worlds." Either way, Khaenri'ah and Teyvat aren't different worlds, they're just different countries. Different countries have different views of the sky, even on Earth.
As for the 'sole survivor' of Khaenri'ah... well, the entire Abyss Order is technically alive and they were all 'survivors' of Khaenri'ah. We already know Kaeya, his father, grandfather, Rhindottir (and presumably Pierro) are all Khaenri'ahn survivors, so I think there are many more than you'd think. ;)
bro predicted basically the entire workings of irminsul before sumeru was even leaked goddamn
ashikai rlly be giving you the MOST interesting theory thats makes ur jaw drop and changes ur entire view of life, then says "NOW remember that for later in another video" and leaves u there all confused and then u can never sleep at night
I always wandered that Mihoyo calls treveyat as continent , then what is name of that planet ? Is it round or flat ?
I'm pretty sure it's round because if it were flat we should technically be able to see Inazuma from Liyue, and we can't.
@@TheLunarguardian but we… can?? You can see Inazuma even from Mondstadt.
@@TheLunarguardian I'm pretty sure you can, the rendering and ambiance effects make it hard but mechanically speaking, the game is all in one big, flat surface
@@TheLunarguardian You can see the light of the Statue of the Seven in Ritou from Liyue. In fact, there are a lot of landmarks that can be seen from everywhere in Teyvat.
same i was confused about that too when i first started playing but considering this theory it makes sense
19:10 "it therefore stands to reason that the true job of the archons is to govern over their heavenly pillars which ensures the safety of the ark. by the same logic, the heart of the archon, or their gnosis, is basically granting them the ability to hold up the sky."
i think this was a really good topic to pick up on! as the archons are having their gnosis taken, Celestia is tilting; meaning the pillars are getting weaker. once all or most of the gnosis are taken, will Celestia fall onto Teyvat and destroy the 'bubble'? that's considering if Celestia is outside the bubble or not.
The more I think about Teyvat, it's world structure and why was it viewable through the Imaginary tree? The more I thing that Teyvat (or the world/planet it's a part of) is floating in or close to the sea of quanta. The fact that it doesn't have any (at the moment) of the honkai related problems that the other universes that are connected with the Imaginary tree, suggests that's it's floating on the sea of quanta. Where the likelihood of the honkai invading are slim, but is in danger of dissolving into the sea of quanta.
I have this really wild theory that Celestia or the god/creator of Teyvat is protecting them from the honkai threat by separating itself form the Imaginary tree but is in constant battle with the effects of the sea of quanta. That's why they're making sure that no one can ever know the truth about Teyvat.
But that's my really carcked up wild 10pm I haven't even had dinner yet because I've been too busy with my hobby and now I'm going crazy theory
the theory of Celestia trying to protect Teyvat from Honkai is actually a pretty popular theory. My only issue with it is how some of the Archons (specifically, Baal, Barbatos, and the Tsaritsa and to a lesser extent Morax and the Pyro Archon) appear to have parallels with Herrschers
In the two videos leading up to this, there was a lot that conflicted with my current understanding of things, but this video seems nearly perfect to me. I'll probably accept this as "canon" in my head, and in tying it to other theories of mine. I won't forget to cite you if I post anything anywhere.
I want to add that the symbol for the Spiral Abyss on the map does show the root half of the world tree.
Another thing to support Khaenri'ah being across the sea in the direction of the Spiral Abyss, and to support the theory that the twins descended through the Spiral Abyss, is that we start the game on the beach.
Huh... All of Paimon's known abilities and powers seem pretty conducive to bubbling a whole world away.
ashikai please, stop, you're making too much sense!
you are setting us for disappointment with such a good theory, only to have mihoyo say:
"what, you expected a coherent lore? sike! you''ll never have a good story, here have another waifu and husbando!"
your videos are always a marvel to watch, keep the content going like that, i believe you will make it big!
Genshin is a masterclass in worldbuilding... not so much with plot. :P
When you mentioned the bubble model being what Teyvat and Khaenri'ah are part of, what came to mind was the saying, "As above, so below." Not sure if that means much in this context, but maybe it might?
Scaramouche is kinda my favourite genshin character. And i think its safe to say that based on his previous experiences of figuring the sky is fake and etc that even after he departed from us that he could have conented some more dots and come to more conclusions and question which would lead him to want to know more, to research and search for more clues and kbowledge which make me wonder what exactly is his goal now and if every interaction we have with him past the point of his first appearance could be him on his quest to uncover the secrets of genshin impacts world. So then that leads to the question of then what did he learn when he went to inazuma and what leae him to want to go there in the first place and what he did afterward. Ahhh and i want to join him on his journey if thats the case and i home we get to see more of his big brain(hat) moments.
Awesome work! Just wanted to ad that the firmanent part is probably canon now. Since it is mentioned in the description of the new ruin guards introduced in inazuma. It is said there that the guards where created by a nation so mighty, their towers almost reached the firmanent.
You're the best thing to happen to Genshin. I can't wait to find out how accurate your theory's turn out to be.
I found this channel by chance and am now watching all the videos, which are blowing my mind. And tbh, if Teyvat is upside down, and the deeper in it you go the closer you get to the actual sky, it suddenly gives a whole new meaning to Enkonomiya sinking deep underground and the Plato's cave reference slodkfjnbhmkls
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First off thank you for this amazing content and the hard work you put into your research and recordings.
I think I've said this already on another videos of yours. But your theories make me enjoy Genshin soooo much more. I'm already very invested into the game's lore. But listening to your detailed theories makes me unbelievable excited about how everything is gonna play out in the game.
First of all, you did a great job with the video and I think you explained most everything adequately even though I know you probably left stuff out to make it flow better / make more sense. I'm really looking forward to Part 4, there's so much more that can fit into the world structure.
Favorite parts - definitely the explanation offered of the role of the archons, and the explanation of how the spiral abyss fits within the tree. The concept of the abyss makes so much more sense now, and being able to visualize it helps a ton. The entire video covers the world tree + gnosticism bubble world concept very comprehensively.
Also, a side note but I love the persona music and the use of Yanfei talking again ~
I love your theory videos so much, 32 minutes feel so short. Can’t wait to see future theories and the overall evolution of the Genshin lore
This theory explains why the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles stopped us.
We entered through a gate she may not know exists or can’t see, mess around with natural events, then try to exit through the gate of heaven.
She cites the “Arrogation of Mankind” which means to seize without justification, or to claim on behalf of another.
I muse that she drew a line between Khaenriah and their Chemia and the two outsiders, the abyss sibling used that to find and aid the remains as there is a common enemy.
I really like your video's. I recently when down a big rabbithole of lore in genshin impact. Your video's are really entertaining and i can't honestly wait till we all finally get to understand what happened to the world of Teyvat.
I like it here 😄 Thanks for another amazing theory, I really need to see the edge in the endless sunset of Inazuma
Woooo Part 4 lets go! I am sooo ready for this, Keep hitting me with this ever-growing lore/theory hammer, you got this Ashikai, keep it up.
Thank you for such a cool and detailed video , I love hearing about different theories and interpretations of the very small amount of lore we have
Can't wait for this masterpiece
The really big questions I have are: does this mean that there is a false/created gravity? How would the irmunsul fruit at the top "fall" to Teyvat if the tree exists upside down? I'd sooner expect these rock/fruit(?) to protrude like a growing plant and create the hollow mountains like we've seen if that were the case? Unless they're caught in the bubble and cyle through Khaenria'ah first before falling to Teyvat. In which case, could it be possible that if people actually do exist still within Khaenri'ah, that the Unreconciled Stars event was their first known attempt at communication with Teyvat since our MC traveler woke up and that Scaramouche was just the unwitting messenger?
Your theories are always amazing and obviously have alot if work put into them so I’m interested to see what this one contains
always looking forward to your videos. makes you imagine things! keep up the great work!
The idea that the memories of dead things returning to the leylines reminds me of FF7 and how memories return to the Lifestream in that universe. And FF7 was inspired by norse mythology. Also love how you are spreading positivity in these trying times
Celestia is actually further away than the moon, the moon is literally crossing the sky blocking Celestia out of sight, so suggestive of your biosphere theory. (I do hope it's not a glitch) Love your videos, keep up the good work!!
*observed from field tiller's POV set time to at 3:40 AM
Your theories always make sense and I love it, great job
I am always impressed with your videos, Ashikai. Seeing new activity on this channel makes me happy. :)
Ey, Ashikai~
*Blackcliff Series.* Please take a look at their entry on the wiki, as I think it their lore corroborates to your theory - as in, they managed to dig to Teyvat's Core (impossible on any RL planet cos' extreme temperatures and pressure, but possible on the layout you showed us), but a monster insfestation happened there (... so "Sheol" was either seemingly taken by the Abyss order somewhat recently ~or~ the miners dug far enough to reach "Khaenri'an territory", only stopping due to monsters and the events of the Chasm).
Awesome theory, can't wait to see what you come up with next! :D
Also I'm super curious what's the whole purpose of the visions. It bothers me so much how Gods were guiding humans even before the Archon War but it wasn't until the end of it and the establishment of the Seven that visions began to be granted to living beings. Guessing the Gnosis somehow helps channel elemental energy into a vision perhaps? But still no clue why it exist and how is it granted.
Is it actually explicitly said that visions have only existed since the end of the Archon war? If I remember correctly Xiao’s character story said he’s had his Vision long enough not to remember exactly when he got it, just that that was the beginning of his lifetime of battle. Presumably that would still have been during the Archon war.
My guess, if we’re going off this theory of the world tree and stuff, I believe that it’s a god granting visions to keep an eye on potential humans capable of going passed the boundaries of teyvat. After all they are called visions for a reason and if celestia is the god granting these visions then maybe that would explain the all-knowing sense and why the archons who want to cut ties with celestia are named after demons.
@@mclaire9447 Xiao's story is kinda hard to decipher since he doesn't remember it but following his story teaser, the Yakshas were summoned to cleanse the land after the gods were defeated, plus he is an adepti so he does have powers without his Vision. Ganyu on the other hand is easier to follow, she also fought in the Archon War and was granted vision after the war when she decided to help the Qixing.
@@colllinlo-4652 I feel like whoever is above Celestia isn't even from Teyvat. By the way all gods born in Teyvat are named after demons including Decarabian, Andius, Havria, Osial, Marchosius, Guizhong, Orobashi and Naberius so I think the whole war was a test of who are the strongest. The whole world seems to me more like harvesting the power of the elements, picking the people with the biggest potential of manipulating the power and potentially collecting that power or using those people?
well visions bearers are called allogenes, which means they can ascend either to celestia or replace an archon,
personally i feel like vision as a system is created as a backup plan when/if and archon died. when that happen then celestia can just pick whichever has the strongest will/wish and make them the new archon, which is probably what happen to the dendro goddess, thats why she was nicknamed "the young lord" because she is technically the youngest archon
I always love watching your videos!! Your theories are so entertaining and seem plausible, I screamed when the whole Scaramouche being a doll theory was confirmed! Keep up the amazing work.
You keep surprising with the quality and depth of each video. thk you for all the hard work. You keep the flame of the Travelers alive!
This is a really interesting theory!
It also makes me wonder even more about the unknown god, like why on earth did they let the Travelers stay rather then let them leave? Instead she just sealed away their powers and called it good. Ei proved that even gods have a moment of hindsight is 2020 (seriously she might as well have named her kid Arson and hoped for the best). But still letting beings that operate by different rules loose in your world that you have strict rules for is a pretty big oversight. The only thing I can think of is that maybe the god didn't foresee them being able to regain their powers or maybe they have a plan in mind for them, either leading towards a terrible punishment (like making them kill each other) or there's more to that god then meets the eye.
If Honkai lore had some connection to Genshin lore then maybe the threat Teyvat is being protected from is either the Honkai or The Sky People (mentioned in Alien Space chapters, you can find it on webtoon)
But looking at it scientifically and not connecting it to Honkai at all, if the whole world is indeed flooded then I would have to think the three moons are to blame. If our own moon suddenly split into two that would mess up our oceans and any nocturnal animals ability to hunt, so maybe a large meteor struck one of the moons and split it into three? Either that or global warming XD
finally, some lore
Jaw dropped with all the theories in this video! So much mind-blowing stuff, can't wait for Part 4.
this is really interesting and makes a lot of sense, great work =) can't wait for part four
The spyral abyss spirals downwards on the musk reef. But we know from unreconciled Stars, that it once was a Mountain. So why is the entrence at the Top of an unklimbable mountain?
And why are there so many hollow mountains???
20:40 if this is the inside of the firmament then why do the pillars end at random heighs? It does seem strange to me. We can see that those pillars reach far down, but they end randomly there, why?
Some of them are broken. Other than that I have no answers.
honestly this is one of the smartest and most thought out theories about the game so far. the idea of the abyss being inside the "tree" of life is the most original take on it i have ever heard. and it actually makes sense with the cutscene of our sibling and dainslief appearing and disappearing through the vortex, as they are essentially entering and exiting the energy vortex of the "tree."
scaramouche out here being the carry of teyvat lore despite not even being playable yet
So I just realized something(and I’m not even halfway through the video 😅), considering that Teyvat is like that of the world tree in Norse mythology, would Ei killing Orobashi be a parallel to Thor having to kill or fight Jörmungandr which starts Ragnarok? Idk maybe this is a stretch but just something I noticed. Anyways great theory video as always Askikai! 👏🏻
Thor’s name in Old Norse mythology also suspiciously sounded like “Aether”. What could it mean?
Its actually based on the legend of Susano-o-Mikoto, the Shinto god of storms and seas, slaying Orochi, the evil eight headed serpent. The reason you made that connection to Thor is probably because 'god kills big snek" appears in many mythologies across Asia and Europe.
@@anitakhcreate Aether is actually a Greek name, it refers to the upper air or atmosphere where the gods lived. 'Thor' is connected to the word 'thunder' and its other forms in languages like English, German, Norwegian, Dutch, etc
…wait. If the moon is always full, then how does Candace have a crescent moon in her hair?
Great as ever, Ash! I'm looking forward to Part 4!
I love your videos! They're always so well researched and engaging! As a sidenote, I always get a kick out of hearing Persona 4 Dancing background music in parts of your videos ☺️ Thanks for making such good Genshin theory content!
Initiating operation getting sleep deprived so I can watch more lore
Edit: nope, too sleepy, mission failed
hi, I have a question, and this might be a plothole, so isnt it weird that there are more people than each country can hold like how there are so many citizens in Inazuma City and Liyue Harbor and very little places for them to stay, now I searched all over the world and couldnt find many places where people could stay and this is not related to the video but its a question stuck on my mind for a week or two
There is a difference in in game land and in lore land, in guoba quest distance between guili plains and liyue was told to be 21 miles, which isn't so in game where it is only few metre. Same goes to city/people/building etc. All are toned down
@@AJ-jy6jq oh I didn't know that, thx!!
@@AJ-jy6jq There are also places that exist in lore that don't exist on the map, like Dornman Port and Rosaria's village
Great video. Love the evidence, references, and conclusions. i wouldn’t be surprised if the genshin lore team is watching ur videos for ideas. Keep up the great work ashikai!!!! :):):)
me and my very good friend were discussing how world of teyvat looks just a week ago and now you posted this video that explains everything that we couldn't reach !! thank you so much for your hard work and explaining it all. I also knew that its actually teyvat that was underground insted of khaenri'ah but i couldn't explain it better than you did, so thank you for that too ! aand i probably know what will you talk about in the next video of that series but i don't want to spoil anything so i'll just wait like everyone else :) and im sure the waiting will be worth it !
The whole ark thing in this video doesn't seem likely to me, I mean what about Dvalin being seen in Honkai as well as Honkai and Genshin characters having the almost the same name and look?
I trust the first theory when it comes to the whole Ark thing.
You'll understand why I'm calling it an Ark in part 4. This video is mainly to provide context for that. Without that context, yeah, I can totally see why it seems weird.
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Honestly I still and will still trust the 1st theory rather than this one.
No offense, it's just that I like the 1st one more so even if you'll explain this one I still would think the other one as better.
I would still love to see where this theory goes though!
Hopefully I wasn't offensive or something.
@@Nataninko lmao it's never offensive to not agree with a theory. We're just exploring possibilities and some will resonate more than others. If you like the first one, go with that one! :D
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Ok
Btw about the whole Descending and ascending the spiral abyss I thought a bit and I do want to mention that the Spiral abyss on teyvat could just lead to an upside down tower in the abyss (a complete 180° from how the spiral abyss itself is) and so from when we are in Teyvat (pre entering the spiral abyss) we are descending, after all if what I said before is true then floor 12 (currently) would be the final floor- the lowest one and furthest one from Teyvat main land.
However once we are in the tower itself we are ascending, in proportion to the tower itself I mean.
*From here on out is my own theory and it's a long one.*
That could mean that Teyvat is considered as the top part and the abyss as the bottom part and just that the actual space is near the abyss, what I'm trying to say is that maybe Teyvat is in a dead bubble universe while the abyss is the part closer to the sea of quanta (the lower half) .
Imo they were always closer to the sea of quanta (besides Khanrieah's people) which Teyvat has to be a part of at some point (how would Otto see Dvalin without it being related to the sea of quanta?) just not as abyssal beings until Celestia did something to them or the collapse of the 3 moon goddesses caused their transformation, that would mean that the abyss has a closer connection with the "sea of quanta" (just in space itself) thus making them be able to see the real stars and the real moon while Teyvat is in a fake version of it.
I do also think that Teyvat is in a boat like shape and slowely dying and drowing in the sea of quanta, and it's reflected by the in game Celestia.
I like to think of Teyvat as coin, Teyvat is up while The abyss is upside down, the seven gnosis are each representing a Celestia pillar as well as a Teyvat pillar, each place also has a secret 8th pillar, and each place's pillars being to the side of each place
7 to keep Teyvat alive and floating and 7 to keep Celestia alive and flying
Each time when an archon lets go of their gnosis one pillar is being destroyed thus letting Teyvat drown more and more in the sea of quanta.
So far 2 archons gave up their gnosis (Venti's one was stolen, he didn't give it up really but rather gave up chasing it).
hi ashi! i was rewatching your world structure videos, and i wanted to bring up something interesting i think might be related.
so, dante's inferno is a poem about a man's walk through hell- it's the first part of the divine comedy. im sure you're at least a bit familiar with it. the reason i think it's relevant is that dante's journey consists of him traveling down the nine circles of hell, and those circles hold an awful lot of similarities to genshin’s different lands.
each circle of hell in the inferno is for a different kind of sinner.
the second circle is for those who were lustful- they’re blown about by an endless wind. like, i don’t know, the storm raging in mondstadt when we first arrive there, perhaps?
the third is for those who were gluttonous- they’re tortured by existing in icy, slushy mud amidst hailing rain. an endless rain, huh? reminds you of inazuma’s storms, does it not?
the fourth is for the greedy (specifically for wealth), whose residents have to push boulders up and down hills endlessly. money, rocks… i feel like you can see where i’m going with this.
additionally, the sixth circle is really eye-catching considering your speculation on dottore’s connection to heresy, because that’s the sin for that circle. they’re trapped in flaming tombs there, which at first may seem like it may be hinting to the pyro archon’s region, but when examining the fatui trailer, what do we see? dottore, the so-called heretic burning… a tree. a tree that, using context clues, is probably in sumeru.
there’s further evidence to back it up as well, i’m not just going off of elements here. for example, ei’s true name is beelzebul. sort of like beelzebub, a lord of hell (unrelated to the inferno lol). the thing is, beelzebub presides over the sin of- you guessed it- gluttony. it’s not like this sin is particularly unbefitting of ei either. she literally sits in the plane of euthymia all day and eats deserts.
and the second circle- equating it to mondstadt just on the account of the winds may seem like a stretch initially, but the theory does hold water. for example, minos (who isn’t actually a biblical figure and is just inserted into inferno from greek literature by the writer), judges souls in the second circle. in the original greek literature he was a tyrannical king- much like decarabian, who was a tyrannical ruler of mondstadt before venti came in to do his thing. speaking of venti, he eats apples a lot. which, incidentally, is the fruit commonly used to represent temptation, fitting within the sin of lust.
as for the first circle, it’s not for a sin, but for being unbaptized, something that a nation of people defying gods would probably fall under… like khanriah.
at the eight circle, the one dedicated to fraud, we have a section resembling an amphitheater, which in my opinion, mirrors celestia as we see it in the comic pretty well. not much to go off with this one though, so we‘ll skip it.
the ninth circle is for those who betrayed special love, and wouldn’t you believe it? it’s a river of frozen ice. kind of like snezhnaya, the region of ice with the matching ideal of love.
now, you say in this video that teyvat is on the underside of khanriah. this actually makes sense with the dante’s inferno theory as well as, at the end of inferno, dante reaches the devil. at this point, he’s gone through all of hell and gravity has completely flipped and made the first circle (khanriah) the furthest down from him.
this is a more loose connection, but dante is also guided by virgil, an unbaptized poet from the first circle who knows everything about each circle, which could make him paimon’s counterpart. do with that as you will, lol.
thanks for reading this if you did!
*tl;dr: genshin in its entirety parallels the way hell is structured in dante’s inferno.*
YAY PART 4, I can’t wait!
Your vids are the best. I love the way you speak and explain things. Plus they're pretty convincing and fun. Thanksss 💗
THIS WAS INCREDIBLE omg
actively had me gasping at several points in your explanation, and i'm so much more excited to play the recent archon quest, now having an understanding of this concept.
Been watching you since the Honkai Ark theory.
Production quality is wonderful and your voice is fun and playful, and the pace lets me keep up with your energy ❤️
I'm always excited to watch your videos
I freaking love this! Well done on all the research and good theories!
Outstanding work on these videos. With lore theories lining up with evidence we can actually see It makes me wish mihoyo let their quest design teams run wild with the lore guys more often.
You are such an underrated channel, hope you get lots of new subscribers!
oOoOoh your most daring theory so far, I really love it!
The best, most detailed content from the best UA-camr!
The quality of these videos are amazing!
OH BOY!! YES PLEAEEEEE ITS TIMEEEEE
I've been re binging all the videos till now for the pat week xD
Thank you Ashikai!!! I love your vids!!
You hit almost every point I've been thinking about since I started this game.
your videos are so well made and easy to follow