Using Mental Illness For TikTok Clout
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- The topic of mental health on TikTok can be very beneficial to bring awareness, normalizing mental health, and encourage people to get help. On the flip side, it romanticizes anxiety, ADHD, and mental illness, and misleads people into thinking their generic symptoms are that of a larger mental illness. It leads to youth being misled and influenced to think they have an undiagnosed mental illness, to which they'll decide to self-diagnose and not get the actual help they need if they are actually suffering from a mental illness. It can also lead completely normal people to believe they have a mental illness because the symptoms listed in these TikToks are so incredibly generic.
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Glad to see that this resonated with a lot of people! been getting a few comments recently that I want to address because I think it’s an important topic, forgive me if I didn’t include it in the script of this video bc i cant remember- I understand not everyone has access to professional mental health help, i didnt for a long time. my line of thinking here is that if you have access to TikTok, you also have access to the Internet to which you can look up articles written by professionals and psychologists about the diagnosis instead of self diagnosing from an anecdote from a random person on TikTok. if that anecdote inspires you to do more research, then that is fantastic. But just don’t stop at the TikTok thinking that random generic symptoms means you have a specific mental illness.
video from person 100x smarter than me: ua-cam.com/video/ZrZHCl7O-ew/v-deo.html
Great video! I'd like to add, that what you are describing is actually the nocebo effect. The placebo effect is the positive counterpart to it, like taking sugar pills but feeling better.
I’m glad to see this acknowledged! ♥️ Thanks UwU
I feel like that should be a big part of this video and not just an afterthought comment on it
ik this is from six months ago but i think it would help to pin this comment so more people can see it bc it’s a really important point that you didn’t include in the video
Yeah what they said
This is so random, but hearing you call yourself a survivor of depression has really pulled me back up to the surface. There is an end to this tunnel and I will be in the light one day
i believe in you. keep going!!!! ❤️
How you doin now? :)))
You got this, sincerely someone who just crawled out of the tunnel earlier this year.
i hope this is the case for you because mine is chronic. its better some times than others, but my depression will never go away...
that is just so weird to me, like- youre happy now???? idk depression is my life i cant imagine a life of not being depressed
the OCD part is so true, i had a girl in my class that would go “omg my ocd!!!” everytime she saw something thats wasnt arranged straight. i have OCD and i am such an unorganized person. it hurts like hell to see people act like its some cute little quirk that keeps you organized.
I am a complete mess. Nothing in my life is organized. I have been told that I can’t have OCD because I am so messy. I had a breakdown the other day because I didn’t have the right sized screw for a school project. And since I didn’t have the right screw my project would fail and light the building in fire.
No part of my project involved flames but hey. If my brain says the building will burn down then I guess it is.
I also hate this. Organizational OCD exists but most people have other types of OCD. For example, I have contamination OCD and other ritualistic OCD things. So, my house is very disorganized but I'm extremely paranoid about my hands being clean, my clothes, my shoes etc. And I often think if I don't keep clean I will die, or someone I love will die, I'll get infected etc. And if I don't do the rituals something bad happens etc. It sucks that people made OCD into a stereotype.
Literally!!!! It made me feel such intense imposter syndrome when I was getting diagnosed, because my only perception was given this way throughout my life, that you must be really organized and clean if you have OCD. and I still struggle with the intrusive thoughts that my ocd isn’t real and I’m just a bad person 💀
i wish i had that type of “”””ocd”””” because right now i’m just writing and rewriting wills because i thought i was dying of rabies for the 5th time these past few months
this thread makes me feel seen ❤
I remember a woman on Twitter mentioned some of her more disturbing intrusive thoughts by her OCD. Everyone outside of the OCD community told her she was a freak, belonged in prison, should die, etc. So I appreciate the OCD mention, coz those people who say "we all have a little OCD" or joke about having it are the ones who will also ridicule us and call us crazy or freaks.
Oh my god, for real! My best friend who also has OCD and my therapist are the only people who get to know a lot of intrusive thoughts I have, and even then I still can't say a lot because of the shame and loathing over some of my themes.
OCD is so misunderstood. I wish those "I'm so OCD" people knew that you can't have OCD unless it interferes with your life (source: my therapist who has had OCD and works with people with it). There's "oh I like to have my markers in a line in rainbow order" and then there's "I've been trying to do homework for half an hour but I can't concentrate because the items on my desk aren't all perfectly straight and I've been fixing them every couple seconds just so that they're correct but they're still not correct and if they're not correct I can't think of anything else"
I have the same issues it sucks because I criticizing myself almost every minute of my day. It must have taken a lot of strength to admit that they have had those thoughts to just be told what you probably have been telling yourself on repeat just thrown right back at you.
YUP. The few times I've expressed my actual OCD thoughts people think I'm a terrible person. It's so misunderstood. It has such a negative effect on life it's not just "I like colour coding !!"
I completely agree!!! It's so exhausting having to hear people say "I like putting my pencils in order, I'm so OCD lol" while those of us who are actually suffering hate and are tired of the compulsions that we *have* to do everyday, it's draining...I just want to be able to feel/think normally and not feel like I'm a burden to my friends and family
I haven’t been diagnosed and I’m not self diagnosing I’m looking for advice cause I have this routine that I need to do other wise I feel sick and I feel like I might die☹️
I have DIAGNOSED ADHD and people thought I was faking it for the longest time. People with actual diagnosis are being accused of faking it because of those people who actually fake it and it’s very sad
It’s so insane to me. ADHD is so fucking painful that it blows my mind people want to seem like they have it.
It’s so bad I had to medically retire from a career I was succeeding in. I was very good at my job because of my hyper fixations but it caused me so much anxiety that I was having panic attacks multiple times a day.
I also could not imagine trying to record myself having symptoms or just giving vague information about it.
No one knows how to describe ADHD because it’s so different from person to person. I think the only thing that really stays consistent is how damaging it is. Literally unable to experience daily life because of it.
@@Acrylescent Real. It’s so hard in public places like school or work for people have conditions they can’t control. I feel so bad for people with Tourette’s or depression bc I can’t imagine them seeing these videos and thinking they’re being made fun of or it’s just a joke when it’s serious. :(
I'm ashamed to say this but your point is so true. Whenever someone says they have xyz mental illness, my first instinct is to doubt them because of all the faking I've seen before. And the doubt doesn't go away easily either cuz I can't always tell if they really have it or are just good at acting. I wanted to be someone who'd be there for anyone who needed the support but now I've become the type of person who won't believe them. It's so sad and I'm trying to change my mindset again to innocent till proven guilty
I feel you man, I'm diagnosed but there are a lot of people I've met who say they also have adhd but then tell me they havent been officially diagnosed. Like oh ok then, so you were lying.
This is so real
I'm a mental health professional and I went on a date where a guy tried to invalidate my degree but saying "yeah I just found the symptoms of ADHD on a medical website and I told me friend she probably has ADHD so I think I could do what you do." People lack the understanding to correctly apply the information that is out there.
Also … why would u say that on a Date?? Tf 💀? Hope u had a great one after that!
He just sounds like a narcissist trying to impress you. It was good to pick up on the red flags early! No thanks!
Lmao wtf
As a guy, we don't claim him
One male doesn't represent every male so yeah no shit.
Thing that get me most is the romanticizing of self-harm, scars and suicidal tendencies...as someone who has a history with that, it rubs me in such a wrong way :(
I know! The people who really went through it understand the severity of the topic. It's not something to joke about.
@@petmashup2672 My friend (maybe ex-friend) joked about SA in front of my face (I’m quite ok with it as long as the time is right or a warning is layed) long story short about my SA my cousin sucks.
To the point now as someone who has literally tried to drown themselves shit like that is just 🫠
I agree , this is so wrong it should never be romanticized
Same here, I also SH and seeing people romanticize it makes me sick...
One of my besties is suicidal and it is really scary. I managed to keep them alive for now but still.
As someone who was medically diagnosed with tourettes, i cant tell you how awefully cringe i find those "OWO IM SORRI MY TOURETTES ACTED UPP!!!1!1!1!1!!!!🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺" people to be.
FR. omg its so stupid. I also have tourettes (although pretty mild) and i have been diagnosed. It sucks so much because ive had several times people have asked me why i made a sound or something and i tell them i have tourettes and they just don’t believe me. And tbh i cant really blame them for being skeptical because of all the bs on the internet. Although you probably shouldn’t be opposing everything you are just skeptical of if its not important to you lol
Had a classmate with tourettes and it looked genuinely frustrating. It didn't look fun or quirky on what the others said it was. It looked like a normal annoyance.
Same i stopped being friends with people in middle school bc that’s when it really showed up and i got diagnosed. Suddenly they had tourettes too. I also had a couple people trying to “prove” i was faking it. Like yes i love the negative attention, doctor’s appointments, meds that give me migraines, and teachers yelling at me to be quiet. They also tried to put me in special ed classes bc of it so that was fun.
As somebody who has depression and is trying to recover, it feels like a slap in the face when i see someone trying to have a "depressed aesthetic"
For what it's worth, the biggest lesson I learned with my depression was that my happiness does not invalidate it. I would often find myself finding ways to stay upset because it couldn't have really been that bad if I was feeling any sort of better, and I wouldn't allow myself to feel happy even if the brain was trying to allow it.
What sucks is that they know it harms somebody, how it does to someone's mentality. I remember I used to be like that. I used to wish I would suffer because it'd make me an interesting person, but when I truely felt it I was like "I don't want this anymore, I just want to feel better"
Ooh, depressed aesthetic? Does claiming that “aesthetic” mean people won’t comment on my neglected hygiene because I’m depressed?? /s 😒
@thebabythesavage Right 😅 like I've spent the last week under a blanket wishing to quit breathing, I'm not sure why my pants are dirty or my hair is unkept Susan
My words are: double your depression and give it to all these stupid brats who desire depression
This generation is called the "mental health" Generation for a reason.
to the people claiming they want mental illnesses and trauma, you dont. it affects your entire life, it can make you struggle with school, work, etc. it can make you constantly hallucinate, and many other bad things.
Since when do people want a mental illness OMG WTF
and the amount of people around me that tell me that "its just in my head" or that I'm lying for attention is infuriating. and then the next day i see them and they say they have 36 mental illnesses and trauma from their crush of 2 months moving schools.
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I just want days where I feel like my mood isn't spiraling and spiraling. I want to be unique and noticed but 🦆 not this way
I hate specially the “dissociation” thing, i’ve been diagnosed with a dissociation disorder and it’s not like an on and off button i can just switch, or just decide when i want to “come back”. I really hate when people call daydreaming a dissociation, it’s not that, there’s so much into it that some people just ignore. In classes I hate it when it happens, I can’t really focus on the class because I’m too worried about not feeling alive, It’s horrible for me
I am clinically diagnosed with complex PTSD and good fucking lord it has made my life difficult. After a lot of hard work and therapy I am finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. But it was hell for so many years.
And it didn't make me cool or popular. It made me isolated and alienated almost constantly. I am so glad I survived. I am so glad I found trauma informed therapists who could help me. All I want is to heal and be a full, healthy human being. Wouldn't wish this illness on anyone.
As someone with diagnosed OCD, I’m so glad to finally hear someone talk about this. It makes me super uncomfortable that people romanticize this illness and paint it out to be like “haha I’m so clean and organized”, while I’m out here losing sleep every night bc my brain forces me to get up like a million times to check if I locked my doors. OCD isn’t about wanting to be organized and aesthetic, it’s an incredibly stressful and often debilitating disorder.
the worst part is that, after the millionth time, you STILL arent satisfied haha its a never-ending cycle
@@bilibilibd2598 ikr it’s literally the worst 😭 I can’t imagine how people can romanticize let alone WANT OCD
Fr! OCD isn't some fun little thing to have that makes you 'organized' or 'special' I have OCD and it's hell. Not something that I feel special about
I am very careful about throwing around the phrase "OCD". I have said it a few times in the past, but not anymore. I don't suffer from OCD, but I do have a couple of other serious health conditions which are now being romanticized online. It really begins to water down what it truly means to have the illness. It's incredibly irritating! All I want is to feel better. I am not excited to have a label or to tell people about it.
YESS! Like I go to therapy and my therapist was like you might have OCD (A main sight of OCD that she noticed in me is repeating urges I basically need to do something again and again until I feel satisfied but I never do and if I mess up repeating I need to do that too) and like no one talks about it and it makes me feel scared that I am not normal.
FUCKING FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT DISASSOCIATING.
I fucking hate when someone says "sorry? I was dissociatin" LIKE SHUT UP DUDE you where just fucking ignoring someone.
Shit feels like you are 1 step to loose your mind, feels like you are at the edge of your mind, its not just a "hehe I was distracted"
Disassociating is SO fucking awful, man, especially when you spend so much of your time doing it. The sheer out of body experience is disorienting enough, but the constant feeling of 'Am I even here? Was that really me? Did I do that?'
Thankfully, the only DID faker I've ever had the displeasure of meeting irl was this dude who literally just used it as an excuse to "justify" his anger issues towards his girlfriend, but "it's okay, he actually just beat his mean alter up so that would never happen again"... :| Wish I was making THAT shit up, but nah, the same dude would yell at me for being unresponsive for too long :p
People def use dissociate wrong, the way I’d describe what they’re probably experiencing most of the time is literally just zoning out. Like I’ll ‘zone out’ during conversations where I don’t realize I’ve stopped paying attention and started staring off into space lost in my thoughts until I ‘zone back’ in (it is always embarrassing)
I have ADHD and I absolutely hate when people fake it to be quirky or for attention because they think it’s cool and that leaves people with actual disorders feel bad
What I don't like about the dissociation tiktok is it gives a strong impression you just snap out of it, toss your hair, and move on with your day. I don't suffer from this disorder but that seems a drastic simplification of the condition, and sends a message that "just snap out of it and you'll be ok", which I don't think would have been the intention of the creator.
Yeah definitely not. As someone who has watched dissociaDID for a bit, I think they were just making fun of their own personal experience and didn’t think how it would be perceived.
i've dissociated many times, and its not something i ever thought to talk about. i look at it like a kind of pressure relief valve for my sanity. i'm kind of glad it happens all things considered, because it means i got to check out for a while
I have major disassociative, depersonalization, and derealization issues, and it is AWFUL pulling myself out of an episode can take hours to even days, and it leaves me feeling immensely depressed. It is def not something you can just snap out of, but also DID is much different than what I have, and I cant speak for others experiences, but for me it is 100% not something I easily come out of
Yeah I know for me, when I have a dissociative episode like that tiktok showed, it's terrifying. I'm usually in the middle of a conversation, I get a little overwhelmed or overstimulated, and all of a sudden I'm realizing that time has passed and I'm still carrying on with the conversation completely normally, but I have absolutely no memory of it. It's really scary and upsetting for me and not usually something I can just brush off.
And what I experience is pretty mild! I don't have a dissociative disorder (at least I don't think so-I've never been screened for one), it's just a coping mechanism I developed in childhood. I'm sure others experience much longer-lasting and more intense episodes.
I don’t have DID, but I experienced depersonalization symptoms and saying “Snap out of it” won’t help.
As someone with OCD it always bothered me when people said "I'm so OCD." OCD can feel like you are constantly about to lose control of everything not just liking things to be color coded. In fact my room is always messy and i still have OCD. There are so many types of sub generes of OCD so to generalize it makes no sense.
Yes! OCD isn't a synonym of "tidy"
I hate that too. I don't personally have it but I've read up on the true reality of what it entails and it's not so pleasant or as quirky as " oops I have to have my shoes all lined up" if people realized some of the real issues it causes they wouldn't use it so lightly!!
My OCD makes cleaning difficult. I sometimes let myself live in my OCD which results in walking around in circles counting things.
Exactly! My house is a catastrophe, but I still have constant checking behaviors and I have a hard time dispelling thoughts, things become obsessive. It’s all relative to different people, it’s awful to boil it down to something that can just be perfectionism.
I have ADD, Autism, General Anxiety, and several other issues with
Obsessive-impulsive tendencies. So, to simplify , my obsessive-compulsiveness is mild, not enough to be considered a separate diagnosis but is serious enough that it impacts my life almost daily. Note the ‘almost’ as I can sometimes go a day or two without any clear signs. I can imagine it being super hard for people who actually have OCD. I’ve taken to ‘correcting’ people (so far only 2 but probably more to come). So when someone says, ‘I have OCD/I’m so OCD’, I respond with ‘I have ADD and feel that way too sometimes’ and both times, because in context it made sense, say ‘is there anyway I can help?’ If they actually have OCD, they’ll get it.
I don’t know if these people actually have OCD but I hope that if they don’t, they at least thought about my response. My default is to believe people yet I fully know of the frustration of people either self diagnosing or just diluting it. Most people probably don’t have malicious intent, and I also see no harm in politely‘correcting’ for lack of a better term. People with OCD or some other mental illness who see this reply, how do you feel/did I explain this well?
Faking disorders has become so common that the ones who actually have these disorders are told that they're being dramatic and stuff...
And I'm myself suffering from quite a few disorders, and this makes me feel so bad fr
I have dissociative identity disorder and is so frustrating seeing people think they're cool and quirky for having it. The way people miss construe what it feels like, i can only conclude they don't actually have DID. Everyone thinks you get to be a quirky character like the 2 face guy in nightmare before Christmas but no one mentions the memory loss, hallucinations, complete lack of control on your body, etc.... it's not like "oh now I'm Edward. Look at me being wacky"
Thank you for the great video gabi!😊
Yeah DID tock just makes me wanna cry. DID is no fairytale and I wish I didn't dissociate all the time or have fucking amnesia of specific time or large amounts of time. Or not remeber faces or events.
It always amazes me that people see ADHD as "lol quirky disease" when I would take being neurotypical in a heartbeat. I wasn't diagnosed until I was in my 20s and going that long without knowing really prevented me from living up to my potential and forming the relationships I wanted to make. My transition to college was a huge realization that I was different to other people and I became suicidal and a severe alcoholic with no friends. I've learned to accept myself the way I am, but if I could make it go away I absolutely would. Meanwhile the rest of the world just says "omg lol me too, squirrel!"
Yes absolutely!! People really dismiss it unless you fit their pre conceived stereotype or think they understand but still make fun of you for being too loud or to messy or too sensitive (essentially not neurotypical enough.) I think no one talks about how alone you feel because no one really understands what’s happening inside your brain. And I am speaking as someone who does very well in school. I think that makes it even harder because it doesn’t look like I am struggling but I’m constantly peaking and crashing throughout the day. It’s truly exhausting
It fucking sucks, the amount of times I’ve been called the r slur just because my way of thinking wasn’t like neurotypical people…
part of the reason I think I have add(other than the fact that I have nearly every single symptom of inattentive adhd) is that I don’t want that. I don’t want to have adhd, I don’t think it’s cute, I don’t want to have to use it as an excuse for anything. I just want to go get tested, get meds or therapy or something, and try to actually put effort into things that I do
I was talking to my (now) ex about how I'd probably get a diagnosis for ADHD finally and genuinely got distracted by a butterfly. In real life. Like for real.
Then fast forward a month and I get "ur faking mental disorders" like "???" I got my diagnosis a week after
i hate living with adhd but being medicated can help but also has its issues
people want to have anxiety to be quirky and different until they know how terrifying it is. i had an anxiety blackout that caused me afterwards to dissociate a bit and if my sister hadn't noticed that i had gone completely still and unresponsive i couldve drowned (it happened in the ocean). it isnt fun.
and don't get me started on these same people dissing you for lack of hygiene and motivation, like no sarah people with depression aren't making excuses i literally cannot get up
And people think depression is just like sitting in a dark room looking out a window with soft blankets and tea, when in reality it can lead to irritability, lashing out on people you love, pushing people away causing them to get angry with you and not wanting to help you anymore because you don’t deserve it, bad diet, feeling like shit because of your bad diet, not drinking enough water, acne breakouts spiraling out of control making your depression worse, gaining weight, etc. it’s not romantic or pretty pictures of skinny girls on tumblr.
Yes. The amount of videos I've seen that associate anxiety with "listening to x musician"
yess like the fact that i havent showered in two weeks and feel disgusted in myself is not fucking qurky depression omg wow
Yeah, dissociating is terrifying. It somehow makes you physically feel simultaneously disconnected and numb, and very uncomfortable and aware of that disconnection. Idk if that makes sense. It’s not a great analogy, but can kind of be thought of like when your arm falls asleep and you try to use your hand. You can’t feel it, but you can, and you are very aware of this feeling/non-feeling and that it is very much so not supposed to be how it feels. Also, tw, but sometimes it’s like I can feel my bones as if they are literally suspended in a meat sack and when I touch something, it’s like the bones are trying to push or cut through that meat sack. Ugh even just talking about it and thinking about it starts making me feel like that. It’s truly awful. It’s like I’ve disconnected all of the nerve signals from my skin and muscles and somehow have them on my bones instead, but those bones are still wearing a suit of muscles and skin that it has to get around in. Not fun.
I think people need to understand the difference between feeling anxious about stuff sometimes and havjng anxiety - they're two different kettles of fish
Hearing her discuss dissociation made me smile, because FINALLY someone brings that to light. Not many people know about dissociation and just assume it’s ADHD or something, but as someone with dissociation episodes I found this very heart warming, and I’m so glad you talked about this Gabi ⭐️⭐️
(Remember, all disorders or symptoms can be different depending on the person!!)
My dissociation episode symptoms:
Can’t talk
Can’t eat or drink/chew
Can’t move my hands/feet/body
Having trouble with emotions
Feeling numb or tingly
Basically, I lose my sense of being alive or by body just shuts off, and it’s scary. If you know people who “fake” or think they have an illness due to TikTok influence I highly recommend you talk to them/confront them about it and ask them to at least tell someone, or even better- seek help about it!
I also have a dissociative disorder! I tend to get really anxious in them since I no longer know where I am or what I'm doing, causing me to freak out! I then start to hit things (usually myself) to try to get a grip again. It's scary and frustrating and I hate having to deal with it so much
These… sound very familiar. Typically when I’m exhausted or very stressed I just shut down. I can see everything, I’m aware of everything but I can’t move or do what I’m supposed to be doing.
Oh my goodness, tell me about it!! I have awful dissociation and dissociative amnesia, too. It really is terrifying
People don't seem to understand how incredibly distressing disassociation is a lot of the time. Like you are fighting as hard as you can to stay where you and you literally can't
Yeah. I go non verbal when I dissociate and people assume it's my autism
As someone MEDICALLY diagnosed with most of the disorders people online fake it makes me so mad when they simply it!!! All this shit makes life hell and idk why anyone would want to have!!???? Also people saying they want trauma disgusts me... I would give ANYTHING to not have gone threw all the stuff I did as a child.
For real! I have ADHD and autism along with anxiety and paranoia, and the amount of people that downplay the symptoms or make them into these quirky little things aggravate me so much
Other less quirky symptoms of ADHD: impulsive shopping that leads to significant financial problems, working so hard at your job and relationships to "make up for" mistakes you often make, time blindness, difficulty in sensing when you are hungry/thirsty/need to use the bathroom, sexual dysfunction, hypersexual behavior that sometimes leads to cheating, poor hygiene because you literally forgot to take care of yourself
Also hyperfixating on REALLY INCONVENIENT THINGS. Like, I don’t need to know how to make cinnamon cookies from the sixties or memorize all of Romeo and Juliet right now, I AM FAILING MY CLASSES.
Bro I have all of them.. I think I need to go to a psychiatrist. (EXCEPT JOBS AND SEXUAL DYSFUNCTION AND THE CHEATING I AM STILL A MINOR but I get interested in sex suddenly for no reason)
@@fufu9066 your "interested in you-know-what" seems to be me sometimes too
Anyone who actually has ADHD knows how bad it sucks. There’s literally no upside to it.
My brother has ADHD which we only found out because of brain scans he had to get because they suspected he had a brain tumor (he doesn’t). I’ve been researching and I have most of the symptoms. Which actually made me cry because I always felt like something was wrong with me just to find out I wasn’t alone. Even if I don’t have it, people still go through the same things as me which is comforting. I don’t want to self diagnose but I can’t get diagnosed professionally as of rn. I’m planning on seeing a psychiatrist when I get the chance. Hope y’all have a great day!
I'm seeking an autism diagnosis as an adult, and I was talking about it at work the other day and someone asked "How did you know you're on the slectrum?" And before I could answer another coworker butted in and said "She probably just watched a bunch of TikToks until she convinced herself because its trendy right now."
People are ignorant unfortunately. After I was diagnosed I was told I didn't look autistic.
Best of luck!
Why were you seeking an autism diagnosis? Wouldn’t it be better to have a qualified medical professional determine what disorder you might actually have, if any? Apologies if I misunderstood, but the way you worded it makes it seems that you want to be diagnosed as autistic. Going in with a desired diagnosis decided upon is kind of the opposite of science. There might very well be other diagnoses that might more accurately address your symptoms. Whatever the case, hope you’re doing well.
@@Lukronius you are right, but the path to diagnosis starts somewhere. You find things to relste to and realise that when people tell you to just "not" be a way you don't realise there is a problem. Then you recognise more of your symptoms align. The biggest problem for this is ADHD, very over diagnosed for a long period because people went in knowing there was a problem and a small amount links. You are right to not to go in seeking THAT diagnosis but recognising that there is an atypical mindset and needs to be diagnosed so I understand how to tackle it.
@@Lukroniusmost people think they might have something when they go to get tested for it, that's essentially how that works?
My psychologist diagnosed me with ADHD years ago and at the time I didn't even know what that was. I remember spending hours researching it, reading peer reviewed papers on it just to make sure I understood it and to make sure I wasn't being misdiagnosed. I did the same thing when I began to suspect I was on the spectrum and even though I know self diagnosing is valid I'm not 100% sure and might never be since the majority of AFAB autistics get misdiagnosed with anxiety
Thank you so much for raising those points about ADHD. I went through all of school without a diagnosis, struggled a lot because of it, and I find these tiktoks really frustrating. Granted, I first started thinking I had ADHD thanks to the Percy Jackson books, but the amount of times I've spiralled in my own head about thinking that I'm faking my disorder, that I'm actually just lazy or stupid has only been reinforced by the public stereotype of "i like to run around randomly and that means I have ADHD' because I don't normally present that way. What you're doing is great and I really appreciate your work
I fell into this trap. I thought I had ADHD. I didn’t. I deeply regret this fase of me.
woah. good on you for recognizing and admitting that! i know several people who have fallen into this trap as well and 100% believe that they have “x” mental illness without a real diagnosis. it’s really frustrating to watch from the outside as the placebo effect runs its course… i hope to see more people like you shake off all the external noise (like those tiktoks) and realize that you don’t need to be neurodivergent to “fit in”, as backwards as that sounds.
*i felt like a boomer typing all of this out but i hope you understand the sincerity of where i’m coming from :)
@@lexigavin3745 Yeah I totally agree. I have deleted tiktok, partly for this reason. I hope that people will start to realise that they don’t just become neurodivergent from a few tiktoks
@@lexigavin3745 not from shorts but i keep feeling like i might have adhd.
i currently dont have a way to get diagnosed or get therapy or anything
i dont want this to be a phase i regret but i also have a lot of the actual symptoms and not just the yt shorts ones
i have (diagnosed) anxiety, and i feel like im embarrassing myself by thinking abt having adhd
aaA
also i constantly think that my symptoms(?) are just placebo
@@iamchaos9628 If someone diagnosed you with anxiety, the same person could screen you for ADHD. Honestly though, I think even doctors push that diagnosis too much sometimes. I got diagnosed after about a 5 minute conversation at age 25 and maybe it's true, and the meds helped me go back to school while working full time, but I stopped taking the pills years ago when I had my first kid and never started back. I don't feel like my life is that different honestly.
@@iamchaos9628 I feel you so much, I have absolutely the same situation (I don't have an official diagnosis for anxiety, though, because in my country doctors rarely officially give you a diagnosis unless it's something very serious and should be treated in hospital - but my doctor has been treating me for anxiety, so I guess it's legit to say that I have it). But I have one more problem: in my country an adult can't be diagnosed with ADHD, our medical system thinks it's not a thing unless you are a hyperactive little child (preferably a boy). So, even if I go to a specialist about it, they won't diagnose me with it whether I have it or not. So, I really have no way out of this situation. I can keep doing nothing about it and I'll forever be doubting if I have it or not. I can try and talk to my doctor about it, but it's almost 100% chance that she will say I don't have it - but I won't be able to say "well, if the doctor says so, than I don't have it, it's okay, I can relax now", I will always think "is it really so that I don't have it or is it our medical system that doesn't believe that adults can have ADHD?"
I just hope that my suspicions about having ADHD are in the end not true because if I'm wrong about it than I only have anxiety which means I will be able to treat it and get rid of it (I'm planning to see a doctor again and start doing something about my anxiety). But if the symptoms don't go away with the anxiety treatment, I have no idea what I'll do... There's almost nothing I can do if it is in fact ADHD. I really hope it's not it.
as someone with ADHD, due to the huge boom in people self diagnosing themselves with things such as ADHD I sometimes panic wondering if i’m just faking it all and doing it for attention and later get hit with a terrible ADHD day and forcefully remember i’ve got to live with it for the rest of my life.
Same here
Mmmhm. I felt like I had to type extra just to not seem fake
Now idk if I have adhd or I just pretend to have it to myself
I worry about this constantly with my OCD
i do this all the time, i’m looking into a professional diagnosis but every time i think “well maybe i’m just faking it for attention” but then why would these things be happening when i’m in my room alone? why would i feel physically and emotionally drained after simply going to the supermarket? why would i catch myself doing these things subconsciously? a lot of the time i worry that i’m just faking it for the attention i didn’t get as a kid and then get hit with a big wave of whatever it may be (i’m thinking autism or severe adhd because a lot of the symptoms i have are overlapping)
I hate when people say "oh, hehe I have social anxiety, I got a little bit nervous taking to a stranger once", it's so much more than that. I break down frequently before leaving the house, i physically can not talk half of the time, I can't ask for help from basically anyone which causes issues, I feel like everyone is staring at me and judging me when i'm outside, I constantly feel like i'm not good enough and that I need to do more to make others happy, I'm incredibly bad for people-pleasing so much so that I can't make decisions most of the time. Of course, it varies, just as everything does. There are good days and bad days, and i'm not trying to say that anyone is faking it, but social anxiety isn't cute.
Thank you so much for taking a respectful approach and not just accusing people of faking disorders. I've firsthand met people who placebo'd themselves into experiencing symptoms of severe disorders. People 90% of the time are not sitting their purposefully and maliciously faking mental illnesses, but it is important to acknowledge the effects that misdiagnosis and MINDLESS (not all, but trusting a TikTok or 2 articles type of mindless) self-diagnosis has on people who are genuinely seeking diagnoses or help for these disorders. Professionals are beginning to dismiss people who are seeking these diagnoses because of the rapid amount of people investigating whether not they have them. Misdiagnosis and misinformation also is furthering stigma around much more severe disorders such as DID, BPD, and NPD.
I’ve unfortunately experienced the whole “ADHD is less likely to be diagnosed” thing.
I went to a physiatrist a while back and she went through an interview with me and my parents. She then concluded that I did in fact have ADHD, only to look me up and down and say “but I don’t see it as much of a problem to you”. And just like that, she sent me on my way. She put nothing on my records either, so my 504 plans in school were never able to fully cater to my needs.
nah fr tho, since im a girl and adhd is harder to find in girls, my psychiatrist was like 'nahh its just severe anxiety.' i have been diagnosed with adhd and anxiety and im on meds and im doing good. hope your situation gets better tho!
@@teneale1016 Yeah I'm a guy but mine was diagnosed late and my doctor tried to say if I had it I would have been diagnosed earlier if I actually had it and thought i was trying to sell meds or some shit. My symptoms line up with how it presents in girls. My gf's line up with how it presents in boys and she was diagnosed as a kid. Steroids help me so much I can actually focus on something. I'm not taking them right now because I hate the side effects. I hate how girls aren't believed and I know it happens because the same thing happened to me.
Bro wtf??
This happened to me to
My school was just DOGSHIT at enforcing 504
I have diagnosed ocd and it’s incredibly infuriating when someone says “I’m so ocd, I have to color code things” like I WISH THAT WAS WHAT OCD WAS my life would be so much easier. But instead I get thoughts like “if you don’t tap the door 3 times your whole family will die in a fire, and it will be your fault” like I’m sick of people romanticizing mental illnesses.
I have never been diagnosed with ocd but about 8 years ago, 6 years ago and then about 2-3 years ago I had this little thing in my head that was telling me *”IT HAS TO BE EVEN IT HAS TO BE EVEN IT HAS TO BE EVEN”* and if I didn’t do it or I missed it I’d have to turn around twice one way and twice the other way and then go back and do it again also if I elbowed something or nudged something then I’d have to do it again the exact same number of times with my other elbow or whatever it was and it was f*cking horrible and it made me hate my life so much and I felt like I was in actual hell but I don’t was to self diagnose because I’m not a professional so I guess if it happens again I’ll go to a professional and talk to someone about it, but sometimes I also have a little mini version of this but I don’t have time to explain all the rest of this
I hope you stay safe and that dealing with your OCD gets better and easier! :)
EXACTLY. if i don’t say i love you to my mom before we hang up on the phone, she will die in a car crash. it’s extremely infuriating when people romanticize it. they truly do not understand how tiring it gets
I have OCD and a lot of it pertains to 'if you don't do this you/your family will die' and I've had it since I was very young. I used to wash my hands over and over because any time they touched ANYTHING I thought the germs would kill me, then in middle school I had a certain ritual pertaining to sidewalk cracks and cracking my joints a certain amount and now as an adult I'm having similar but different compulsions. Meds, therapy, service dog, all helps some but I still have OCD. I wish it would go away, it is so frustrating to live with.
@@chloe5707 same. and when people claim to have it but romanticize it…i can’t.
@@imaperson2009 THIS IS WHAT I HAVE TOO
I've never been diagnosed, and probably don't have OCD but THIS
This thing is. You're absolutely right on the "you know what else causes fatigue? Everything." Point.
Which frustrates me to no end because my therapist is advocating for me to check with a psychiatrist for my adhd-like symptoms, but they all could be caused by the cocktail of status effects I've already got! Literally, most of the list you mentioned, I fit the bill. I'm convinced that any signs I may show are just me "acting" like I have something just for the sake of having it.
But I also SUCK at noticing what's going on with me, so I'm just left anxious and confused.
Also I remember getting those diagnosis’s I have and saying to myself “I may have this but I’m not going to let it slow me down or define me” some of these TikTok folks self diagnose then it’s their ENTIRE personality
about a year ago, i studied traits of autism for months and monitoring my own behaviors, and let me tell you, it’s absolute Hell trying to figure yourself out. on one hand, i’m finally paying attention and realizing “hm, these traits actually match up with what i normally do”, but on the other hand, i’m constantly self-doubting and worrying that i’m overanalyzing my behaviors and trying to look at something that doesn’t exist. it took so long for me to actually Begin accepting the fact i may be autistic, and i’m looking into an official diagnosis right now. but the idea that people will just call themselves autistic simply because that’s what this one tiktok said, it’s kind of insulting, and makes self-diagnosing that much more stigmatized and difficult to just admit.
Getting professionally diagnosed is definitely a good decision. I got diagnosed with autism not long ago, as a 21 year old woman. I still have times where I feel like I'm imagining everything. It's super common to have imposter syndrome when you first get diagnosed. You've convinced yourself you were normal for so long, downplayed your symptoms for so long, been masking your whole life. It's hard to put away the person you built to fit in. It's hard to learn about who you are so late in life. But it's so rewarding when you do. Trust yourself, you know yourself best. Good luck with everything ❤️
i’m experiencing the same thing, and i honestly can’t tell if my brain is making it up or i genuinely might have ASD
@@reyiskindacool literally, i started getting a lot of autism specific content and started seeing a lot of symptoms in me so i started analyzing and making a list, but i’m also here like “maybe i’m just overreacting”
this is me right now and it’s kind absolutely horrible but there’s no professional i can go to soo🤡
I wanna let you know that self diagnosis with extensive research is completely valid. There are many resources that have criteria and tests based off of (or actually are) ones used by professionals! Not everyone can get a diagnosis because it can get pricey and also there’s just such a high chance of them assessing you wrong too. I would like to remind you that no neurotypical wonders if they’re autistic to the extent of taking time out of their day to research and absorb information + seek out knowledge from autistics too! Don’t be so hard on yourself, it’s okay if your self diagnosis is wrong anyway because you’re on a journey of finding who you are and finding out the way your brain works and the way things make you feel is so important and worth it, if you are allistic this journey only showed you how to accommodate to you specifically! I wish you luck, and remember that you know yourself more than anyone else would!
-an autistic
There is the girl in my class who is always like “oops my ADHD is acting up” when she is forgetful or one of those stereotypical ADHD symptoms. I have ADHD and have this little happy stim where I kinda flap my arms, and SHE THINKS IM WIERD FOR IT! Even though stimming is a SYMPTOM FOR HER SO CALL ADHD! (sorry about the rant I’m just *really* annoyed by this)
It’s possible that it’s because arm flapping is most often seen in ASD rather than ADHD. ADHD is usually more commonly associated with mindless fidgeting, twirling pens or coins, drumming or tapping, or bouncing legs. Not that that excuses her thinking you’re weird for doing it, but it might explain why she isn’t familiar with it. Saying that she’s lying about having ADHD because she doesn’t have a flamboyant and uncommon stim isn’t cool.
Fr. I’m autistic/adhd and I have a flapping/blinking/laughing stim
I would be annoyed to
@@BoringTroublemaker I get what your saying but she doesn’t have any other(obvious) adhd symptoms and she is the type of person to want trauma because she is “so quirky and mentally ill” and she got her adhd diagnosis from tiktok
@@bananbug people don’t need to have obvious symptoms of a disorder or prove anything to you. Did it occur to you that maybe she has been working extremely hard to find a medication that works for her to avoid showing obvious symptoms? You label her as wanting to be quirky and mentally ill (fyi ADHD is not a mental illness) while simultaneously saying she doesn’t show any obvious signs.
My husband of 20 years has struggled with severe ADHD for his entire life and apologizes when it causes issues for people around him even though he doesn’t outwardly show any “obvious symptoms”. And yes, being forgetful IS a symptom of ADHD.
Just because someone doesn’t perform ADHD to your standards or satisfaction doesn’t negate their experience and it certainly doesn’t mean they aren’t struggling. Try having a little perspective and showing a little empathy - it’s free.
The OCD part is so true, I always hear people say “omg my OCD rn lol” when they see one thing out of place. I have pretty bad diagnosed OCD and I act nothing like that. There have been times where I have had meltdowns because some random thing makes me feel uncomfortable, such as people wearing their caps backwards or people holding their utensils the ‘wrong way’ and it is so embarrassing if people see me having one of these ‘meltdowns’ because they think something is seriously wrong with me, instead of the fact that I have OCD because of the way these influencers have made it seem. They never show the harsh reality of having these mental problems.
somebody in middle school would joke about stuff like “omg I’m so ocd lmaooo” while my entire grade routinely watched me have horrible meltdowns and wipe down everywhere I sat with Clorox wipes…..
I've been dealing with depression for almost 20 years now. I'm so proud of you for being a survivor ❤️
I feel like what's constantly ignored with OCD is the fact that it is obsessive THOUGHT that lead to the compulsive behavior, which is preformed in an effort to soothe the thought(s). And that can be absolutely terrifying.
EXACTLY. The compulsive behaviors are not wanted, or just a personality trait.
Yes there like jokes and insults like once i liked everything perfect so a guy told me that "are u OCD" stoopid 😅 i told him no he said i have it tho so stop pretending 😢 i was embarrassed he told me that i was mocking OCD
My OCD caused me to obsess about creating characters and I would walk circles around my house outside for HOURS a day coming up with the perfect dialogue for them. It also caused me to obsess over the idea that if I got a single punctuation error in my 1000 word essay it would begin a downward spiral to me failing the class, and so I literally wouldn’t sleep for two days at a time the week before these essays were due because I was STILL spending hours coming up with dialogue while also writing the essay at night.
Not only that but people think that OCD is just about organisation, but it can be a lot of different things anything really and its just to do with the compulsive thoughts
@@freeloading_toad that sounds terrible im so sorry, I am close friends with someone with OCD and the essay one is something I've seen first hand and it's so sad
I have been traumatized by the mental health system in medical care, and any time I mention how I was in a psychiatric ward, everyone always says something along the lines of “I’ve never been to a ward but I probably should be in one 😂”. It incredibly Invalidating and I hate opening up about what happened to me.
Sometimes I wish people like that would actually get sent to a psych ward just so they could understand how unpleasant and traumatic the experience is, especially when you're involuntarily committed.
Is it normal that I’m litterally terrified to tell anyone how I feel because I know I’ll be sent there? I feel like it would make everything worse
@@Koala_Kawaii311 I'd say that's a pretty normal feeling, but it is important to let people know about uncomfortable or possibly life-threatening feelings. Personally, I was not given a choice, but if you do have the choice, I would suggest discussing other options with your parents/guardians or medical providers if possible. Even if that means agreeing to going to a mental hospital as a daytime session. It's better than being committed there.
@@user-oc5wy2ev8s my mom forced me to talk to her and threatened me if I didn’t and so did every person I know
@@user-oc5wy2ev8s but ty
I can’t say to anyone that I have OCD and autism because I feel like I’ll sound just like these people. OCD is not about the fork being on the wrong side of the plate. It’s all the horrible thoughts, annoying physical and mental patterns, and the anxiety that doing or not doing something can and will hurt me somehow. All those fun things are 100% a part of my life, every minute of every day for the past 10 years.
Yet I don’t want to talk about it, and I haven’t _(for 10 years)_ because I was scared and now because it’s been so desensitised by people who want to feel quirky and different on the internet.
As someone who’s been diagnosed with anxiety I have felt the same thing where my throat tightened multiple times and I’ve had anxiety attacks over them. Thank you so much for bringing this issue up in this video.
Another symptom of ADHD is sensory and audio processing issues. My earplugs are literally the only thing that managed to keep me in my very very loud class without going through sensory overload, and I keep my TV and laptop at a much higher volume than my family members just to process what I'm watching/listening to. I swear, ADHD had like the most inaccurate name ever, it is so much more than "Trouble Sitting Still Disorder"
EDIT: Hey gang, guess who's doctor said "I'm pretty sure you're actually autistic, here's a referral to a center that does testing"
Yup, having autism but being able to "cope" with living a working life is this for me. I have been told without the ASD diagnosis I would have an ADHD one but it's pointless due to the overlap in diagnosis criteria. Without headphones and music I would not be able to exist in a city. People just don't get it's not about "being easily distracted", it's simply that external stimuli are more overwhelming thus we can't ignore it
just to inform you, sensory issues are not specifically part of ADHD, it's just incredibly common for sensory issues and such to develop alongside ADHD!
also i think ADHD is still a very fitting name for the disorder because attention deficeit and hyperactivity are kinda the main components. there's everything else too but most of the symptoms of ADHD can be sorted into those main ones
I wasn't diagnosed with adhd til I was 17 and I hate it because one of my biggest challenges was taking notes. Like when the teacher just talks to you instead of having it on the projecter. I couldnt keep up and I have short term memory issues and I can say something and if someone asks me to repeat it alot of times I forget what I just said.
@@froggiepie yeah it's closer to a comorbidity than a symptom if i understand correctly
I don't know a thing about you so I'm not going to jump into conclusions, but people with only ADHD can also be related to sensory processing disorders. The difference is that for ADHD people it is much rarer and all autistics have sensory issues.
i wanted to add something from my personal experience: i used to (and probably still do sometimes) try to find any mental illness that would even *remotely* explain why i feel
shitty. you don’t have to have a mental illness to feel shitty sometimes. i have poor coping mechanisms! that’s the only explanation, and that’s okay. yeah, i need to get better, but there’s no rule saying you can’t be messed up without being mentally ill. thank you for coming to my TEDtalk.
THIS THIS THIS!!! Mental illness is just ONE reason you might feel shitty- there are a million reasons, and all of them are equally valid!!
now im not neurotypical, but we all have our episodes bc we’re only human. but the fact that you have to say, “oh yeah i have this and this and this and this 🥺” in order to have your feelings validated is just really messed up, but it also hurts the people with those conditions, too. and honestly, i do like how mh is being normalized, but it’s getting to the point where it’s more of a trend and if you dont have an essay worth of mh illnesses then all the sudden you’re not normal (okay, thats an exaggeration, but you get the point) but stay safe and healthy fellow human :)💕
I love how you said there's no rule saying you can't be messed up or feel shitty without being mentally ill because its a normal human things sometimes i feel like people act like you can't be sad or anything if you don't have mental illness.
Yeah I went to a whole mental institution after an episode of self harm so severe my roommate called 911. The therapist there was like "I don't really think this is depression or anxiety disorder, it seems more like poor coping mechanisms." I had another therapist who thought i might have ASD or mild depression or whatever, but since graduating college my mental health has been awesome and I haven't self harmed in years. So I kinda think the first one was right lol.
Literally people act like it's quirky while I'm just here with my depression, anxiety, adhd, autism, long Prossesing disorder and schizophrenia sipping my tea
Thank you for bringing these topics to life in a non-hurtful way 🙏 I really appreciated how real you were because it helped me to connect to what you’re saying, and it made me feel understood as well. We all want to be unique and understood, but sometimes people do it in the wrong ways. I’ve had friends tell me they had a panic attack because they got slightly nervous in a class. They might have had an anxiety attack, but saying such serious things so simply can really make someone feel overdramatic. I’ve had panic attacks, and it’s scary as hell especially when I was younger, home alone, and thought I was having a heart attack. I’ve almost called 911 so many times because of this. Not to mention people using dissociation as a silly quirky thing. It just hurts how uninformed people are, and my heart goes out to them. I, personally, can tell when I’m disassociating, and it’s extremely scary. It just feels like you’re not real, like your body is kicking you out. It feels as though you can’t control yourself, and you just don’t know when, if you’ll ever, get your control back again. More than anything I feel bad for people who are so affected by these fake or quirky TikTok’s that make light of serious disorders. Even with depression. Sadness does NOT equal depression. Even just things like that where my friends feel sad, and then get stuck in these thoughts of having depression, and start to actually fall into depressive episodes and start to experience these symptoms. Not wanting to get out of bed is not a choice that you can just- decide to suddenly want to move and be active, and you can’t just be genuinely happy whenever you want to and say goodbye to the underlining numbness and depression underneath. I’ve been flat out told I do not have depression because I laugh and can be happy. But what people don’t see is the numbness and pain that just won’t go away. The lack of care for anything, and the horrible feelings of just. Not being up for anything. Words don’t even do justice to these mental conditions.
I’m sorry for the long rant, and thank you for listening to anyone who has read this all. Again, thank you so much for bringing this to light in a non-hurtful and judgmental way. I appreciate it very much, and I hope that people who have been affected by these trends can see this and save themselves from how scary our human minds can be. Thank you, once again. 🫶🏻💕
So one time I was in a group chat and someone was like "Oh who has ADHD" and everyone said "Oh I do" except me. THEY THEN LITERALLY TRIED TO GASLIGHT ME INTO THINKING I HAVE ADHD! "Everyone had ADHD, you just don't know it" "No look it up, you have the symptoms"
w h a t .
God dang, the world be trippin
bro what group chat are you in 💀
Of course everyone has ADHD, thats why the diagnostic rate is 4% - 7%, which approximates to 100%.
They were joking.
Because this game Isn't dormitibas (or dormitibus? Not sure.)
@SQUISHYCANDYGUTZI’m not sure what it is, but the name sounds similar to a fnaf fangame
What you said about OCD is so incredibly true. Someone who is very, very close to me has diagnosed OCD, and it gets to the point where she feels the need to brush her teeth 20 times repeatedly until her gums bleed so she feels satisfied. She used to have to repeat a stepping movement over 15 times before she could walk through an entryway. OCD isn’t just a little quirk that means you want things to be in rainbow order- it is a real struggle that is hard to deal with and I’m sick of people using it so casually.
There are also different types
Like trichotillomania, where you pull out your hair on impulse (I think that’s the word)
@@lecouchpotato2882 Yes!! I have Trich, as well as Dermatillomania - but my boyfriends OCD most often presents in habitually washing his hands. Though, both of us have the overlapping symptom of intrusive thoughts. OCD symptoms are so intriguing and varying, but all so very debilitating.
@@mossyteef Ocd is such a wide spectrum-
I mentioned Trich because when I was younger I would pull my hair out so often that there would be clumps of my hair in every room and a noticeable difference on my head
I actually have hair at two different lengths bc of this 😭
But it’s so so important that people realize how big of a spectrum it is
I hear people like that all the time, who clearly don't understand what actual OCD is and it makes me so angry.
@@lecouchpotato2882 Yes, my friend also struggles with trich! I
The way you speak is very professional. Using compassion to approach these situations and remaining mindful of the impact of your rhetoric is definitely helpful. Thank you for being so respectful. This commentary is fantastic.
Gabi, I really appreciate your take on this topic. I feel so seen, feels silly to say, by you since I relate so much to the frustrations you’re expressing. Thanks dude
I have ADD/ADHD and was diagnosed (by a professional) at an early age. I had a LOT of trouble at school and seeing other people joking and saying they have ADD/ADHD made me feel like I didn’t have “normal” ADHD and made me think I was just dumb. It feels great seeing someone call out those people.
Messed up you even have to clarify that it was by a professional.
yeah, I had the same problem but I had a different type of ADHD that didn't really affect me in school which made people think I was faking it, glad theirs people talking about different types of ADHD now and that's not just the basic unable to focus kind.
I feel you that was my life ❤
Sums it up perfectly. This video was so cathartic.
nah for real i was diagnosed in second grade
also to your point, i have diagnosed ADHD but the hyperactivity part is purely mental. note that i didn't say ADD. hyperactivity doesn't have to take the form of fidgeting and restlessness.
my brain literally races all day unless i take my meds, and it's absolutely exhausting. to compare it to something else, it's essentially the same thing as having an overclocked processor running hot and draining power - medication being represented by slapping on a fat water cooler.
and it's not that i can't focus - my brain is just already too exhausted to pay attention in the first place
exactly lol and these tiktoks are like, fidgeting!!! not being able to focus!!! having to keep moving!!! lolz!
@@itsgabibelle lolz!!
Same,especially when I try to go to sleep at night,my mind is all over the place
I am diagnosed as well and i love to describe it like 5 radios all playing something different on in my head all day/night every day/night. It’s crazy how listening to UA-cam helps
As a person with mental illness, I wholesomely agree with you Gabi. Getting professional help is vital. I've wanted to be normal my entire life and here are people are bragging about being mentally ill.
You are very insightful... I just came across your channel...saw a few videos... and I must say you have this deeper understanding of how and why something happens and you seem very considerate of other people's thoughts ❤️ looking forward to watch more of your videos
Hearing someone talk about maladaptive daydreaming other than me or my therapist was so nice. When I suffered from this due to extreme trauma no one told me too much daydreaming could cause problems. Spreading awareness for this is so important and I appreciate so much you bringing it up!
Yeah... Maladaplative daydreaming isn't so talked so I also felt nice! 💞 Hope you recover
i hate it its so annoying but its such a timepasser🙏
I must be one of these people and yet another problem I have. I have struggled so much despite so much different types of therapy and meds.
_Developing MADD was one of the best and worst parts of my life simultaneously. I felt like I was insane for so long- and I kept it very secret. I became so isolated because of it, despite it being a response to neglect. But I was a young child when it started developing, and it made me feel as if I had some part of creativity. Especially as a writer- despite the fact that I could never write my daydreams/imagined experiences._
_Hearing someone else talk about it for the first time brought me unbelievable amounts of relief that it was… something. But hearing others say that they must have a disorder of similar caliber just because they space out makes me want to scream._
It’s also interesting that the vast majority of people faking illnesses or portraying them as quirky and fun rather than debilitating choose the same ones. It’s always depression, anxiety, ADHD, OCD, or DID. They choose illnesses that are easy to make seem glamorous (like romanticizing self-harm or making up ‘alters’ that are just OCs you like to dress up as). I’d like to see someone pretend to have schizophrenia and make it seem cute and fun on Tiktok.
Yeah, I’m bipolar and I imagine it’d be hard to romanticize coming close to destroying everything you have going in your life over and over either from the ups or the downs
@@victoriamasters oh wow so your just like kanye thats so cool 🥰😍
im sorry
@@ictogon ?? I’m just like him because we have the same disorder? I can’t tell if you’re being serious or rude comparing me to him, I’m just confused.
@@victoriamasters No i was being sarcastic. I was maknig fun of the people who romanticise artists with mental illnesses (like kanye) and wish they had a mental illness because they think it would make them more artistic or creative or something, which is really dumb.
@@ictogon got it. Makes so much sense. Lol. I was like “this comment does not match the vibe of the video 😂” I just recently woke up and my brain wasn’t working yet. Lol
I just wanna thank you so much for describing dissociation in the video because I've been feeling this every now and then since I was a little child and omg that scares me SO MUCH and I never knew how to describe it either to search for it or to my therapist so thank you thank you thank you I feel like I can do something about it now
Wow this was very insightful and I appreciate you bringing light to mental illness.
It’s so crazy being a minor with diagnosed autism, adhd, bpd, and anxiety and seeing people tell me to my face that I don’t have it because I’m hoping on a trend. It is so difficult for me to engage in normal social interaction and people are calling me “quirky”
I have panic attacks almost everyday. It is so difficult for me to pass my classes. And I’m quirky. I cry every single day asking god why I was born like this. It is so difficult for me to just go outside. And people tell me I’m lying to myself.
TikTok is a terrible source for any type of diagnosis. Don’t trust it ever. Talk to a licensed therapist or psychologist.
edit: I see a lot of people commenting “but you can’t get diagnosed with bpd in my country.” just know that I live in the USA where minors are eligible for the diagnostic criteria
I'm so sorry for you, that sounds like a nightmare load you're bearing, but I'm really fucking proud of you for having come this far :)
@@g.y.perelechow3587 Thank you, you’re very kind
i was told for a lot of my life that i was just kinda.... "strange"
it was autism.
still get called weird or often robotic, dont think it will ever stop.
just wanted to share, hope you are doing well, dont let ignorance get to you too much ❤
Wow, I'm so sorry you're going through that. You're so strong for having come this far!
@@chocolateaddictedartist5924 thank you.
I think the biggest, most frustrating thing is that I've grown up with role models in my life being condescending about my mental health, or saying it's all in my head, even sometimes shutting down the fact that I'm mentally ill at all. And now, we have an environment where people see these ailments as something to be desired, that it's suddenly "cool" or "quirky" to have these ailments. We've flipped to a whole other extreme. But both are horribly wrong. Mental illness is not fake, and it's not something fun and trendy. It just is what it is.
Also - if you're having trouble with disassociating, something I do on occasion is verbally say what is going on and where I am out loud. "I'm walking to my class. It's 9 am. I have a project done that's ready for critique." or "I'm at a restaurant with my family. I am currently in the bathroom. Afterwards we're going to get groceries." things like that. Hopefully that helps someone out there. Whatever's going on, you'll be okay. ❤
It's so confusing growing up being shy and dressing emo and having your classmates making fun of you because they all thought I was depressed and suicidal (it turned out to be true but of course from the outside no one would know it's true, they'd laugh and point simply because of the way I was). And now, being depressed and suicidal is glamorous?!
I don’t know if what what I do is dissociation but I will use this regardless, thank you
Ok it seems to not be dissociation but if it helps I will certainly try it
@@dragonfly._.doodles I got a notification about a comment (besides this one I'm answering to) that seemed to be addressed to me, but I can't find it so I'm assuming you deleted it for whatever reason.. but thank you for the kind words that seemed to be transmitting from the 1st few words I could read xD :)
i’m not sure if its dissociation but it’s not good and i will definitely use your tip thank you
I often dissociate due to stress and sensory overload/overwhelm (I have Level 1 autism). I'll try this trick. Thank you! ❤
Yes!!! As someone who has been professionally diagnosed with multiple mental illnesses, these make me feel so annoyed, especially with "depression culture". It also makes me feel like now people are going to think that I just TikTok diagnosed myself.
As someone with anxiety, thank you for making this video. It’s really informative to people who don’t understand and I got to learn what is going on with others’ minds.
Another thing is people who dont have whatever it is (adhd, dissassociation, depression, anxiety, etc.) will degrade people who ACTUALLY have it. I have a lot of friends like this and whenever I try to talk about my anxiety or my problems they'll be like, "(insert reason why other person is struggling more)" And it can make you feel so little, like your problems aren't enough or not important. Everyone's feelings are valid, and your problems aren't more or less important than others 💛
I really hate that saying of other people having it worst than you. It discredits your problems
Drop the "friends". They don't care enough to listen to you. They're fake.
My own mother can be like this. It's so frustrating
"Dissociation Disorder" is not a thing but the term "dissociative disorders" is, and refers to the entire group of related disorders. That therapist was probably thinking of DPDR (Depersonalization-Derealization Disorder) and likely misspoke. The rest of the information in that tiktok was good tho!!
OMG THANK YOU !!! I have that disorder diagnosed and couldnt remember the fucking name for so long i kept saying dissociative disorder ! i hate how sometimes doctor tells you your diagnosis but not the actual term for it so you never really know !!! DPDR thanksss ahha
One of the people she talked about had DID or dissociative identity disorder, so she could also be talking about that?
i'm glad u brought that up because yeah there are dissociative disorders but there is no one Dissociation Disorder
I’m so glad I was able to see a doctor to get diagnosed at a very young age. I’m not going to lie, I didn’t know what the heck ADHD was at the time, and I thought I was just a bad kid. I’m grateful to my teachers and parents who noticed and to my parents for getting me the help I needed. I remember they even taught me special ASL signs for when I needed a break or needed to go to counseling. And not only has it just helped me, but it’s helped my family and friends. Two people I’m really close with just got diagnosed because they saw the subtle signs I showed with my ADHD and they recognized the same behavior or traits from themselves! I’m still learning so much to this day about my adhd and I’m so grateful to everyone who’s supported me the whole time ❤️❤️❤️❤️
i appreciate the ending so much. listening to the beginning of this video i was so scared that you were going to play into the whole "gatekeeping" mental illness thing. so many people act as if self diagnosis is detrimental and taking away resources from "real diagnosed" people, as if it's possible to obtain resources and things without diagnosis's. i appreciate that you talked over both sides. as someone in the process of seeking and autism diagnosis it is upsetting when people want to tell you that you can't possibly be mentally ill as if they know you better than you know yourself somehow, despite all of the research you've done and despite going through the correct channels for diagnosis. it can be a really great thing to find these communities as well, even as someone who is just curious and not mentally ill, you can make close friends, find safe spaces, relate to people. it can be a learning experience. i think the issue honestly isn't limited to mental health though, there is misinformation, and watered down information all over the internet about everything. we should strive to communicate better about these things so people don't get confused. it's also important see how far we've come! give ourselves a pat on the back! it used to be taboo, and now it's everywhere!
Thank you for talking about maladaptive daydreaming! I have that and when people think they have it because they daydream occasionally, when it's so much more than that. I often feel like I have to daydream if I'm in an anxious situation, and I will daydream for hours because it's so addicting. I also hate referring to the people in daydreams as "characters" when they feel like friends. Normal daydreaming is not like this and I hate when people think they have maladaptive daydreaming when they daydream a normal, healthy amount.
For me they are definitely characters. I consider the entire worlds I made to be its own characters as well. I’m trying to think of a way to reduce my daydreaming time so I can actually express it through the arts. I never fully developed a writing or drawing skill because of my maladaptive daydreaming. It’s very annoying realizing that I’ve daydreamed for 5+ hours straight without putting it on a damn page!
Edit: At the same time, they are kind of like friends lol. Everytime I go online something will remind me of them and it’ll trigger another daydream 🥲
I used to do the same. It’s hard to get out of that state because it’s honestly addictive. I wish you luck💜
I also have madalaptive daydreaming, and I kinda consider it a literal drug. I got literally addicted to it, and I do it on end for hours each day, it affects my life so much. I've been having it basically my whole life but it got way more intense a few years ago as a coping mechanism for my on going trauma and difficult life. I wouldn't say it's bad, a part of me loves it, and take this as a dramatization, but it's genuinely one of the main reasons that prevented me from su!c!de. But it definitely has negative impacts. So I really hope people aren't making this also seem "quirky and fun." Anyways :))
@@aliaaaafr That part!! It literally feels like cocaine. The come up gets you super euphoric and then you have a crash that leaves depressed and existential. I wish there was rehab for us 😭
@@cancelledavac this is literally so true omg 😭
The only type of valid “online diagnosis” I see is someone genuinely studying themselves and different illnesses to properly have an idea of what could be “wrong”. Therapy and professional help isn’t accessible to everyone but that’s no excuse to not put in the work if you want to claim you have ADHD or something. I will never understand how people think it’s okay to go on tik tok, Instagram, or some bs online for less than an hour and then decide they have an illness but never want to go see a doctor. Straight ignorant. And I wish people bashed more on people on tik tok like that instead of people who are forced to do self diagnosis because of family, financial, or location reasons.
Ppl go to social media because it's easier and I'm pretty sure most mental health videos appeared randomly on tiktok
Yes, thank you, self diagnosis is often people’s only option and valid when the time and research and true self-reflection is put in. It’s so hard to get diagnosed. Saying this as a person with several diagnoses that were at one point “self diagnosed” that was lucky enough to have decent healthcare and the ability to pursue an official diagnosis
Thank you for mentioning this, as a self diagnoser who is putting in the work to study the disorders/illnesses I think I have, and is actively trying to get therapy and assessments. It's really hard to not compare myself to people like this, and use it as a way to invalidate my own experiences.
this is was my experience with self diagnosing my OCD- except when i went to talk to my doctor about it, it turned out i had been diagnosed when i was 7. being a teen without access to my medical documentation, my parents had known and simply never talked about it with me so i had no idea.
exactly, i think i have adhd but i dont really have the option to get diagnosed at the moment, and ive done so much research on it to the point where i can strongly say that i most likely have it. i think many people dismiss the fact that self diagnosing is valid if you do enough research on it and youre not just saying it to look cool and “quirky.”
I’ve realized I dissociated for years at a time throughout my childhood caused by my mothers abuse and it caused me to borderline fail in my middle and high school years I have almost zero memories before sophomore year and was essentially emotionless and felt like I was watching myself go through the same day over and over and over again I never thought to tell my therapist this when I used to go to therapy but I wish I did because I think that could have helped in finding help sooner at the time however I’ve gotten much better mentally and am now engaged and going through life happily and living as best I can. I’ve been watching your videos for about a month or so now and they’ve been so good and I’ve been enjoying them thank you for posting and bringing your reactions and your entertainment to UA-cam
Thanks for this Gabi! I think its also soooo important to remember that in the field of Psychopathology there is a growing view of mental illnesses as dimensions (like a spectrum), meaning many symptoms are actually just more extreme versions of "normal" behavior, so hearing symptoms on a tik tok, without taking into consideration the level of impairment they cause, is basically useless. It is also super important to remember that there are sooooo many symptoms that overlap with many different illnesses, so while it Tik Toks can be helpful, it most likely will not be able to provide an accurate diagnosis.
One thing I didn’t realize until I did testing is that ADHD isn’t necessarily about your symptoms. It’s more about how one part of your brain processes things in comparison to another part, or the average. My working memory is *technically* average, but compared to my other scores, it’s pretty abysmal. *technically* I’m good at problem solving, but only when it comes to more complex and “interesting” things. I tend to make mistakes on the “easy” stuff bc it’s boring. Yes, the traditional symptoms are part of it, but they’re not all of it, not even most of it.
The thing is that symptoms are what make it a disorder. My mom has ADHD but she manages well and has found her niche where she can be herself so her symptoms don't negatively affect her life. My sister and I both struggle with a lot of ADHD symptoms and it makes us miserable when they aren't managed
I relate a lot on the problem solving thing, in fact it has brought me a lot of struggles in school. The thing is that I didn't believe I had ADHD because my working memory is exceptional due to my autism.
right?! symptoms don't define your adhd, or whether you have it or not. The reason I was referred to a therapist and diagnosed was because I had a really hard time falling asleep because of too much thoughts, and I lost absolutely everything. I would come to school with the wrong books every day, lose my keys more than once a week, etc. Now I'm much more organized and I fall asleep almost immediately. does that mean I no longer have adhd? No! I just got better at understanding my brain and managing. the reason I do have adhd, is because of how my brain is wired(or the lack of wiring lol). My brain needs constant stimuli, but it can't handle too much stimuli or it will take a long time processing. I mostly notice this in social settings or in finding motivation for big projects. I have other symptoms and hardships now than I had as a 13 year old. There's a reason why in therapy they also analyse your behaviour in your childhood, different environments etc. Symptoms at one place and time don't define a mental illness
Omg literally as someone with ADHD I've often done amazing on tests I hardly studied for because I listen to the initial lectures and hang onto what they're saying, but I'll do worse on classes like English because it isn't engaging and I don't know when to apply what they're teaching. It always used to confuse and scare me, and I'm really glad to have been able to discover a label for it, so that I can actually take the time to slowly organize myself and adjust accordingly to my brain. If I hadn't, who knows the turmoil I'd have had not knowing that there were other people like me I could confide in.
...ADHD can be exhausting on so many levels lol
Yeah, "trouble focusing" is not a great way to describe the feeling of trouble focusing from adhd. I recently got diagnosed and my processing speed is 30 points lower than everything else my brain does. So no matter what I do, if I'm presented with a novel issue I'm going to have to stare at it and reread it for a long while before I actually understand what it's asking. If it's something I can answer reflexively I'm done in a flash, but if I need to absorb new information I'm sitting there drooling on the paper for 3 minutes before I can actually do anything. It's very troublesome, because while I'm technically not slower than my peers I am WAY slower than my brain so the fast parts of my brain get bored trying to wait for the slow bits to catch up
I think it's kinda like you've got a super powerful PC but dogshit wifi. Once you download something it goes lightning fast but that intial download is going to take so long it might feel like the entire setup is a waste of money
the OCD thing pisses me off more than anything else. being neat and organized is literally human nature
Gotta love how the people who say that they're "so OCD" think it's weird or creepy when I feel the compulsive need to align the desk and everything on it in 45° and 90° angles to each other or check if I dropped something for like the 20th time.
One of my sisters claims she has OCD because she's a neat freak. Everyone in our family agrees, thinking it's funny. Back when I showed signs of the real thing, I only got ridiculed and punished. Thankfully I got it under control by the time I was 17. Never was diagnosed because my parents couldn't afford a doctor but I was a textbook case at 12.
I totally agree with the dissociating thing. During fevers, I have a tendency for this to happen and let me tell you, I've been driven to tears with confusion and fear about what was happening to me. Thank you so much for bringing this to light.
I feel like i might maladaptive daydream but i always get anxious that I'm faking things even with my adhd that's been proffesionally diagnosed i still feel like into some kind of fraud
As someone who was diagnosed with OCD in her mid twenties, I do think the spread of misinformation about OCD is part of the reason why it took me so long to get the diagnosis. My symptoms didn’t match the stereotypes so I never considered the possibility. Thank god I was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid because with how tiktok is about it yiiiiikes
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Hi I have been diagnosed with OCD too but I was diagnosed young ish I’m 20 now but I was diagnosed in year 8 so I’m pretty sure that’s equivalent to what people form America say grade 8 or something like that . But I had early signs . Mine is contamination so it’s one of the most used . But I know there are millions of different forms it can take . I have had done CBT to help it but it’s still there . I mean if I’m honest I don’t remember anything before having it because I have other conditions that correspond with it . I have ADHD and Mild Autism too but OCD is most there because of it . I have been told I once tried to rip my teeth out because I couldn’t brush them from the thoughts and that’s when I first got help or diagnosed . And I’m glad that happened cause I don’t know where I would be right now if I did as I did grab a knife and threaten to end my life because the thoughts were so bad . I then got admitted to a hospital because of that where I got diagnosed . And it really doesn’t help when my dad makes jokes about it like you should wash my car considering you have OCD as it doesn’t help at all and makes things worse . I mean I’ve always been pretty open about my OCD even in school . I don’t hide it unless I get persuaded by friends or others cause they think it’s for the best which only happens like once but I understand why people would want to keep it a secret . I mean it’s also a issue here on UA-cam cause I’m the past I typed in OCD and the amount of videos that are like if you do this then you have OCD or your bets reacting to things in what you said a different order or slightly off is annoying I saw one video titled these things will trigger your OCD and I watched it and it didn’t trigger me but the person reacting and mocking it did . I know some use it as a coping mechanism but most people who make these don’t have it and are using it as a funny joke and spread misinformation . I’m sorry for going on this rant but i thought I wouldn’t share my story too .
@@KASPlaysSims Hey, I hope you're doing ok. I'm 24 and I also have OCD, specifically around contamination fears. I got diagnosed when I was 14. I watched someone at school playing 'Slender', and then I spent eight months paranoid that Slender Man was going to abduct and kill me.
Something that helped me was to give OCD a name. It can be as immature or silly as you like. By naming it something ridiculous, you give the OCD less power and less control. It becomes a part of you, not your whole identity.
What's important to remember is that OCD is not our whole personality. You should not be defined by your OCD - you're a human being, with hopes, dreams, passions. Think of it this way: we HAVE OCD, but we're NOT OCD. It is also nothing to be ashamed about, though I can understand why you keep it a secret. I don't think your friends should be telling you when to hide it, because it's not your fault you have OCD and it doesn't in any way detract from your true personality. As for your dad, it's his way of dealing with a diagnosis he doesn't fully understand. It's a coping mechanism - though I understand how it can be hurtful. Have you tried talking to him about it - if you're comfortable doing so? Maybe he didn't realise you don't appreciate his jokes?
People think OCD is 'quirky', rather than a serious mental illness. The reality is they're ignorant, basing their assumptions off stereotypes in media rather than actual facts. People are quick to judge, regardless of factual knowledge. I think of this quote from Dr. Seuss often: "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter." It's true: if people truly matter to you, they won't mind your different opinions and how you feel.
Above everything, I want you to know that you are appreciated and you're not alone. If you ever need support, please reach out to a professional. You can beat this - I know it's a struggle sometimes. You just have to keep chipping away at it.
@@Shleggo thank you but I’m doing a lot better with my OCD then in the past I have done CBT and have manage to do things I couldn’t before . I hope your doing ok too .
@@KASPlaysSims Glad to hear it! I've done CBT too and it's helped me a lot to get my thoughts under control. I'm doing ok, too :)
Placebo effect with mental illness can be crazy, I was recently diagnosed with multiple anxiety disorders and a tic disorder, and since my tics have increased exponentially because I'm now so much more aware of them.
I’ve already commented this, but that’s not the placebo effect. She got the definition wrong. Doesn’t negate you experience, but medical terminology is important.
Placebo effect: a beneficial effect produced by a placebo drug or treatment, which cannot be attributed to the properties of the placebo itself, and must therefore be due to the patient's belief in that treatment.
"orthodox doctors dismiss the positive results as a result of the placebo effect"
@@kmhkennedy that may be the exact medical definition but it is colloquailly used in a much broader sense.
@@malachiswedberg8367 I’ve never heard it anybody use it in that way, except in this video and subsequent comment section. but I accept that it might be used colloquially by others, I’ve heard people use the term often, but always correctly.
Either way, it’s odd to misuse a medical concept in a video about people using mental health disorders diagnosis and terms incorrectly. Not a big deal, or terrible or anything. Just odd.
Technically negative effects are called nocebo effect. Its essentially the same thing. If you believe a treatment will have negative effects, you might cause it to happen simply due to your belief. The nocebo effect can potentially kill you.
@@unlockingillusion3087 wow, that’s really interesting. I had no idea! Looked it up, so wild that I’ve never even heard that term before. Thanks for the new piece of info!
‘Worry about money then you have this condition’ - as a therapist it is a rising problem of false self-diagnosis of normal behaviour, and then making that one’s identity. It is unhealthy.
Great video I loved how you handled all of these illnesses. I am someone who has all of the ones you have mentioned and it helped me feel seen and more comfortable. I have trouble sharing my troubles with people because so many online claim to have it or do have it and it seems like they don’t struggle so much and it makes me feel sort of pathetic for having trouble with them. I had to stop partway through but I loved the video thank you :p
Damn so true!
The glorification of ADHD is so frustrating. I struggle with it EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Seeing people talking about it as if it is not that serious makes me feel so shitty about my very real struggles.
It’s not something fun to have, it’s not a superpower.
It’s something that makes me loose friends, forget very important appointments and not be able to take care of myself properly.
That part. Even eating consistently can be a chore if it seems like more work than it's worth to make the food. It's not exactly what I would call fun
@@NealBones Or overeat because its the only thing you can think about and can't focus on anything else...
eh... it's bad, but if I had to rank my disorders, it's at the top. I suffer so much more from my bipolar and depression (they may actually be one in the same, I was only diagnosed with bipolar recently, but my symptoms go back a couple years. my depression symptoms go back 8 years, but maybe that was just early bipolar idk.) even anxiety, #2 on the list, gives me way more grief than adhd.
Dude what I hate is how when I was growing up with ADHD I felt like such an outsider, I was diagnosed with ADHD right outta kindergarten and have had teachers treat me like shit for it my entire school career, I mean my second grade teacher used to lock me in a room just big enough to fit a desk in by myself for Christ sake. It’s not like I was a disruption either, I was extremely shy and zombie-like when on my pills, I hardly talked to anyone and didn’t have any friends, yet I was the one singled out even tho there were way more disruptive students, all because of my ADHD. Kids also treated me differently as well, I remember one of my “friends” in elementary had ADD, when I told him that I had ADHD he just scoffed and acted like he was better than me because he didn’t have the annoying version like I did, I thought I’d found someone like me but instead I found yet another person to look down on me.
Oh but now it’s cool to have ADHD?? Atleast kids nowadays who actually have it will be treated better, still wish I could’ve been treated better than I was for a condition I was born with though-
I gaslighted myself so hard for like 10 years, I started to learn masking when I was diagnosed at 15. I also was a people pleaser, and I thought and said to myself and to others "my ADHD isn't that bad, everyone has some ADHD, I'm not going to use it as an excuse, I take medication to manage."
I wasn't understanding or accepting my diagnosis actually was for a disability, and I saw it only as an inconvenience, a "learning" disability isn't a real disability.
I didn't learn what it entailed to have ADHD, what actually were my symptoms and how to differentiate what's different between myself and others, and understand how masking could become so self destructive, medication not working properly was just me being in a wrong mood, and how overwhelmed I really was from working in open plan offices was down to food and diet or lack of sleep.
Oh what a sweet summer child I was until I had a full on burnout end of 2019 with depression and suddenly completely unmasking and learning I'm autistic and ADHD the last 4 years.
If anyone ever says to me "everyone has a bit of ADHD" now, I'll be schooling them. ADHD is not a mental health issue or just a learning disability, it's a literal disability that affects everything in life.
Funny thing, I have literally *EVERY single one* of the "ADHD" symptoms she talked about in her video, and when I got diagnosed with autism and dissociative disorder, I was *"so far from having ADHD it was almost like my autism made me have 'reverse ADHD' "* 😂
(I understand there is a lot of similarities between the two)
I just thought I would share that for anyone trying to self diagnose themselves with ADHD.
A lot of the time, if you think you have the one, you have the other.
And sometimes if you think you have neither (like I did for most of my life) you have both LOL
NEVER rely on tbe internet for serious things like these.
It will just cost you more anxiety and self-confusion.
(Plus theres the risk of looking stupid and ignorant online as well if you decide to fake it obviously... 🙄)
Hugs to all the people who have real diagnosises or are waiting to get a real diagnosis instead of relying on social media ❤🙂
Basically make research and look for possible symptoms to talk about when you go see a specialist about it
@@qwertka123 Exactly what you said! 👌🏼 Like everything isn't black or white
Hey! I had ADHD so bad it was kinda like Autism. Are we opposite ninjas?
@@allanturmaine5496 Holy swampoli,
it sure seems like that's the way it could be! 😲
Mindboggling the more I think about this the deeper it gets...
Are we supposed to rule 50/50 of the planet or are we to teach each others how to camouflage as both kinds? 🤔
@@RosieBrownie oh, I don't want to rule anything.
Also I really love this topic cause I completely agree on the way people view mental illness is a huge problem and I love when conversations start about that however is important to be educated before we speak and not trigger anyone cause triggers can be way more dangerous to some people than others.
Something not mentioned is that a lot of mental illnesses are diagnosed as these symptoms which lead to a decrease in quality of living or difficulty in performing common tasks. If you just like having your colored pencils in a rainbow and you don't like them organized any other way that's a preference. If you NEED them organized as a rainbow. You can't sleep, you can't leave the house, you literally stop your whole life to go check and see if the colored pencils are organized in a rainbow then THAT is OCD, as an example. I have a mental health disorder that's not as severe as it used to be b/c I've gotten much better at managing it where it no longer is a detriment to my quality of life but another important thing about a disorder is that it can present itself very easily and very extremely if you do not know how to cope or quell it. It's not something that just goes away. Just b/c you day dreamed one time when you were 12 yrs old doesn't mean you have an undiagnosed disorder all of a sudden.
I'll say, as somebody who doesn't struggle with mental illnesses (at least none that I know of), sometimes having a mental illness just sounds appealing, because it feels like validation for when you don't behave "perfectly normal" or the way you're supposed to.
But when you then realize all the struggles you don't have to go through, suddenly it feels great to be healthy.
Always think twice before going "I wish I had [mental illness]", because you never know what people with that mental illness go through on a day to day basis.
That might actually be saying more about society itself. I don't understand why even tho we know people behave differently because of upbringing, social ntwork or nature we still have specific expectations of the way they would/ should behave in a specific situation. And when they don't fulfill them we call them out or punish them of sorts for it. Did yall forget we're living beings and not machines. It's impossible for us all to behave the same predictable way. Maybe you should broaden your idea of how people ought to be.
@@_averageenjoyer_ you hit the nail on the head. People wouldn't even be TEMPTED to wish they had "an excuse" to just be human and make mistakes and have something to get out of being socially punished and abused for being human (which doesn't actually work in the first place because as someone who **does** have these disorders, I can promise you that no we absolutely do NOT get out of being socially abused and punished for making mistakes, regardless of whether it's normal human mistakes or ones from a disorder, because society is too inherently ableistic anyway), IF society weren't so overly toxic and over-the-top perfectionistic in its standards and performative.
Seems like a mix of toxic patriarchal standards, abusive herd and mob mentality, and other forms of societal brainwashing that leads to oppression and discrimination. You can see clear examples of these hidden underlying issues at work in studies done on how people subconsciously perceive, react to, and behave around anyone who's perceived as even slightly different, no matter how benign those differences are. The Halo Effect is one that immediately comes to mind. Another is the Just World Fallacy. Another is a recent study done on how neurotypicals instantly perceive and reject Autistics at the subconscious level EVEN WHEN those Autistics were behaving perfectly, appropriately normal in the social interactions... which just goes to show how ingrained and conditioned society is to reject everything outright that is different or doesn't reach some arbitrary standard of conformity and "perfection" no matter how harmless those differences are. I hate it here. 🤠
@@tenshimoon I haven't invested as much time into the topic as you seem to have. My views are a bit more simple as they are based on my own observations and experiences. I hope to perhaps add to what you said with it.
I see things the following way and this is oversimplifying things but society tends to be performative. We perform because we want to feel part of the group. The problem is that when we perform we make ourselves seem like a norm even though we're almost always wearing masks for the sake of fitting in. This makes it seem like society has some kind of "normal" kind of people, even though it's not the case. And from there on those who can't keep up or get exausted too easily because of factors outside their control get branded as the odd ones.
To top it all off the more people act performative, the higher the bar of standards goes as the number of people who reject/ question this system dwindles. This in turn makes its further questioning harder. Basically its a never ending circlejerking cycle because stepping out of line means ostrisasion and potentially discrimination. The solution to life isn't 42, it's being patient and accepting of those different from you. Or at least that's what worked best for me.
@_averageenjoyer_ absolutely, 100% agree. I'm sure there's probably more to it as well, but even those simplifications are valid and they're a good place to start. How the cycle got started and where it ultimately came from deserves to be discussed and looked at on a deeper level by society in general, but becoming aware of this overarching issue even at the simplified level is a good first step.
And yeah that has worked best for me as well. Keeping your mind open and broadening your horizons, shifting your inner paradigms by learning about people and experiences that seem vastly different from us, unlearning a lot of the harmful messages and toxic foundations society is currently built and operates on, being mindful of the fact that just because we don't understand something or someone doesn't automatically make that thing or them bad/wrong/crazy, deconstructing things, and questioning everything we think we know and understand about the world and others - all of these practices are great places to start with.
Heck, even just looking up the Dunning-Kruger Effect is a good, simplified place to start: humans have a tendency to think/act with too much confidence in their knowledge the less they know about something, especially at the beginning of learning, and are less likely to think/act with too much confidence the more they learn.
Self diagnosis can also be very dangerous to the individual. During a rough point in my life I used to hear voices in my head (probably due to extreme stress which at the time I didn't know could cause that) and at that time I watched a video on schizophrenia and then for the next few weeks I genuinely thought I was developing symptoms of schizophrenia and I was paranoid and hearing more voices due to more stress and thinking I was hallucinating when I probably wasn't. That was probably one of the scariest few weeks of my life, all because I self diagnosed instead of talking to a therapist
Are you ok with sharing the rest of your story? Like how you and your therapist helped you work things out cuz I would love to learn (◍•ᴗ•◍)
With schizophrenia being an issue in my family I was also terrified by potentially developing it through my teens and early 20's everytime I'd have an audio or visual hallucination. The cycle of anxiety that amps it up is so difficult to avoid and honestly it really only feels like getting too old is the only thing that broke my cycle...
Professionals arent perfect. They diagnosed me under the exact same conditions you did yourself (also wrongly). Authority doesn't always mean right and non authority doesn't always mean wrong
Umm hearing voices is a hallucination...I'm not sure what you think ANY of those words mean, but lol "I was hearing voices and thought I was hallucinating but probably wasn't" like...what do we all think the words "hearing" and "hallucinations" mean
@@damian8278 I was having auditory hallucinations due to stress, which I didn't know could happen. But when I meant was, I thought I was having visual hallucinations when I probably wasn't and it was my mind playing tricks on me yk. Like when you think you see something move in the corner of your eye but it was just a shadow
Adding my two cents on this: regarding the end of the video, about good being made by mental health talk. I totally agree! I'm from a very small town, and all my life felt like something was wrong with me but I had no one I could really talk to about it, and always brushed it off as me being "the weird kid". Turns out that I have autism, and started looking into it only thanks to TikTok and the quarantine. Mind you- I didn't diagnose myself straight away, I started looking into it which lead to me being diagnosed roughly a year ago (plus I feel like when it comes to autism, self-disgnosis is a much more nuanced subject). But yeah, this kind of content truly helped someone with limited resources such as me actually making steps towards a real diagnosis and not brush things off as "everyone has this, my symptoms aren't that severe".
Haha the fact that I had to stop the video and leave during the dissociative discussion says everything. When you struggle with it, it’s not easy to talk about. You don’t want to tell everyone and constantly be in conversation about it, because that triggers dissociation (at least for me I guess, but I feel that it’s a fair generalization) thanks for bringing this to light, sorry I can’t watch the video ❤️
I think something that also adds to the issue of self-diagnosis is how insanely difficult it can be to obtain an actual diagnosis sometimes, especially for stigmatised or less understood conditions. ADHD in women and AFAB people, for example, is severely under-diagnosed - I know from personal experience that a scary amount of mental health professionals will downplay or dismiss ADHD concerns without even providing a reason as to why. Some people may pursue a diagnosis for years before their mental illness is recognised.
It doesn't make self-diagnosis the answer by any means, but I can see how a person may be so exhausted by the mental health system that they turn to TikTok to validate their worries.
Most of my male classmates growing up were diagnosed by like, 4 years old. I WASN'T DIAGNOSED UNTIL I WAS 15 BECAUSE BIAS IN MEDICINE IS FUCKING STUPID
It sucks when you struggle everyday but no doctor will take you seriously. You know somethings up but they refuse to see it or understand it so you're left undiagnosed
@@Roc2897 I'm incredibly lucky to have a mom and doctor who take me seriously, idk what I'd do if they didn't
Thank you! I found the question of people’s access to assessment for mental health issues like ADHD (per myself) was a major missing piece here. Both with one’s local healthcare system (as you mentioned, AFAB people’s concerns & symptoms being dismissed off-hand) and financially (in my province, if you cannot get referred to a psychologist registered with provincial healthcare, assessment for ADHD can cost upwards of $1000-$2000, especially outside of childhood. And I lucked into that referral; otherwise it seemed out of my reach. It’s tough out there. Access to assessment and diagnosis are pivotal in this conversation and really ought to be considered & discussed.
Yes, luckily my doctor recognized my ADHD when I was in 3rd grade. Then it was changed to ADD, then I started developing tics, so it was changed back to ADHD and now ADD isn't a thing anymore apparently. But, there are so many people who go without a diagnosis and are labeled as lazy. It's difficult especially when you're older.
A lot of people say they wouldn’t treat you differently or bully someone with autism. But people will bully and treat you different for; being socially awkward, being obsessed with things, coming off as “cold and unemotional”, not picking up on sarcasm or jokes, and most other autism symptoms. I have autism, I’ve been mocked and treated poorly for all of these things. It’s hard to properly communicate and talk to other people when you’re brain literally works differently then theirs. Hard to find people who only “put up with” my symptoms, because pretty much every person will say they won’t be jerks about it.
And then if you tell someone that's been making fun of you that you are autistic, they instantly overcompensate because they're suddenly like, "Oh shit I was mean to someone autistic, I'm in trouble" It's ridiculous. It definitely made it harder for me to socialize than it already was because I was overly aware of the fact that I was weird and different
not to mention the fact that the VAST majority of "cringe culture" is bashing on autistic symptoms. and many of the horribly inaccurate tv characters people like who happen to be autistic or seen as autistic are either the laughing stock/butt of the joke constantly, or they have a socially acceptable form of it. aka theyre usually low support needs and/or high masking so they are scarcely depicted as needing any help (so they're "easy" to talk to/be around), or they have some sort of savant syndrome so they're seen as useful to society and others. i get incredibly frustrated by people's lack of acceptance for autistic people -- because it's never been ALL austitic people across the spectrum, just the ones who aren't seen as a burden to people.
Yeah, I have a friend he doesn't emote because he has autism. The amount of people who have claimed that he was aggressive, mean, rude, cold, etc because of this is insane. He has lost friends over it because people heard that he is super rude or aggressive, but in reality he just doesn't emote. People always say that they are accepting, then turn right around when the mental illness is inconvenient
Thank you for making this I have been struggling with people faking the things I have❤
Thank you so much for talking about this bruh this is one of the biggest reasons why I deleted TikTok, I don’t even want to be around that stuff
i’ve been maladaptive daydreaming ever since i was very young, and i thought i was the only person in the world to do it. it wasn’t until i was about 12 when i actually learned that there was a term for maladaptive daydreaming on tumblr and i was so surprised that people experienced it as well. it was incredibly relieving to know that i wasn’t alone. but on the other side of the spectrum i have ADHD and after being on TikTok for a while and seeing all of the things about ADHD and autism, i was frustrated by how ADHD was portrayed on the internet and being confused thinking i had autism (i still don’t really know if i do), but i would see symptoms of autism that was just. people doing people things. and it made me so uncomfortable because i was being told that every thing i did was because of a mental illness or disorder. it got to a point where i didn’t even know who i was without my disorder because if every part of my personality is a symptom, what’s me? that being said i’m not on tiktok anymore
I HATE TikTok.
I have autism and dissociative disorder.
I heard maladaptive daydreaming and dissociation is very common for us on the spectrum, especially if we've been through trauma (I have)
I just wanna say that you're not alone.
Its like you cant even be your own person because its just symptoms this, symptoms that.
im not sure if it helps you or not, but adhd is very rarely just on its own. generally if someone has adhd, they also have something else, like autism or a sensory processing disorder
@phoenixlmao pretty sure it was autism that's not typically on its own
I also have been having MD since very young! Dude, I went to a psychiatrist once that wanted to put me on meds but they would’ve affected my creativity and imaginary capabilities and I was like hell outta her that moment cuz I don’t care if I gotta go through another mental breakdown as long as I have the only thing that keeps me alive with me- and boom, found out I have maladaptive daydreaming
I am almost positive I have MD (been daydreaming to cope with stuff since I was eight or so) and the only thing stopping me from getting diagnosed is that it’s not very medically recognized. Do you guys know how to get diagnosed?
As someone who was diagnosed with autism and ADHD at age 2, went through multiple behavioral therapists and sensory therapists, and still got made fun of because I was “too weird” when I stimmed or had a panic attack because I heard a loud noise/noise I didn’t like, among literally a mountain of sensory issues, mental illness isn’t something that’s fun or quirky it literally made me the target of bullying up until this became “trendy” (it makes me wanna puke to say my pain is trendy but I guess that’s life)
Same except people still make fun of me, see me as nothing more than a shell of what someone needs to be. I'll be thankful once someone will actually treat me like a human and not like an incurable disease.
Thank you for covering this topic and making the basic point that having a mental illness is not your defining characteristic as a person. I want to give some insight into the life of someone who was medically diagnosed with Bipolar disorder all the way back in 2012 and I'll share a bit of my story for anyone who is curious as to how it manifests, how it can be rooted and how it can ffect your life as well as the lives of other. Treating mental illness as some kind of quirk has always annoyed me. I grew up in a very violent neighbourhood, a broken family, grew up too early and collected a lot of trauma along the way. Went to the worst school in the country in terms of grades but also just the shittiness of the school (badly run). We even made national news for antisocial behaviour. Anyway it was violent, you had to learn to be violent, the social culture outside of culture was violent (if you live here you'd best not walk there because you might get stabbed. And every now and then, a load of us from here will go over there to fight them and vice versa). Add in drugs, being coerced by my mum's abusive partner to sell drugs from the age of 14, taking drugs and drinking to deal with trauma, pretty much all of my close friends being from broken homes, we were basically like feral dogs with no support or guidance. It was brutal. I sorted myself out and got into uni despite never really going to school/always getting suspended for basically nothing and never being given any help other than one session of "anger management" at school that was actually an alternative to punishment, even though anger wasn't my problem - if anything, fear was a far greater problem, but people don't see that from the outside as you put on a brave front in a toxic environment. This was a an all boy's school too and so we used to go and hang out at the girls' school on their lunch. Teenagers eh? As I said, I sorted myself out and went to uni after hard study but then I had a breakdown when my mum went to prison due to the actions of her abusive partner. I lost it but managed to get on her visiting list and went as early as possible. She came out crying, not expecting me (no one had told me and I found out second hand) but I had to put on a brave face even though I was crying inside. I think I was 20 or 21 and after a bad breakdown, now understood as a major depressive episode, they put me on an SSRI (antidepressant, like prozac) and this triggered a manic episode, leading to my actual diagnosis.
And so for years I was in and out of trouble, on and off different meds, moving around the country, making and spending money like a madman, being homeless at certain points but still making many achievements over those years such as being published, having my art projects shown at prestigious national events, working on all kinds of projects including poetry which has been published also, investigative journalism which was highly received. 32 now (ok boomer) and still struggling to find the balance, even though my life has been more stable than it has ever been in recent years. I still have episodes and these episodes have cost me a lot throughout my life, particularly in my 20s and I have self-medicated for years - all kinds of drugs, booze, promiscuous sex, leading to battles with addiction and generally reckless behaviour and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. As I say, I have achieved great things and continue to work on projects such as music, writing, poetry and journalistic work, but behind that is an immense struggle that comes and goes.
I have had extreme dissociative episodes too which have caused harm to others, rooted in trauma and exacerbated by drug use (particularly alcohol, one of the most dangerous drugs known to human kind which is perfectly legal and even encouraged in western culture which can cause psychotic episodes and from which you can have seizures and even die if you become dependent on it, so please don't think of alcohol as a "safe" drug just because it is legal and socially acceptable). I am glad that society is becoming more ready to open up and talk seriously about mental health issues due to decades of stigma but I cannot stand the way it has been trivialised also, seemingly for clout in many cases, or sympathy, or being "quirky" as if having a psychological disorder is akin to having a zany personality (ironically, many of these people probably don't, hence diagnosing themselves to appear interesting/different). People's desire to be a part of something and choosing the broad spectrum of mental health issues without actually being diagnosed is insulting to people who have actually struggled and who do struggle. We aren't a "community", we are people who have illnesses and disorders and a big part of our struggle is trying to function in society as well as be accepted, understood and helped - we don't have society meetings with name tags to mingle over tea and nibbles. When people left tumblr a few years back and joined Twitter, I saw so many people with handles like: "self-diagnosed Bipolar, BPD, OCD, ADHD, Social Anxiety [obligatory Myers Briggs test result]" and it pissed me off big time because actual medical diagnoses are not made lightly. I have struggled with these issues for pretty much my whole life and to see the disorder I am diagnosed with used as a kind of quirky, "look at how wacky I am" narrative for content or to be adopted as a part of a person's identity pisses me off big time. I am also expected to be diagnosed with CPTSD given symptoms over the years and my current meds are supposed to help with that, even though I haven't been diagnosed yet and my mother was at least diagnosed with this as well as anxiety disorders, depression and probably more but we don't really talk about it as there are so many other things to talk about.
As for the self-diagnoses, the amount of times I've experienced a physical symptom only to perform a Google search diagnosis, finding out that I have a rare form of cancer or a serious, rare and untreatable immune deficiency disease, it is a miracle that I am still alive. I must've been diagnosed with dozens of physical diseases via the Google Diagnostic Protocol (GDP, sometimes know as BS) and am a living marvel who the medical community can't get enough of.
In seriousness, in reality, people with mental health issues face tremendous difficulty gaining access to services. In America its even worse given the fact that healthcare is privatised (come on!) but they are following that model here as a result of lobbying (the legal form of bribery) and squeezing services so that some scumbag politician(s) will come along and tell us that we need privatisation to solve the crises in healthcare, and the vultures will start to circle - insurance companies, pill pushers, all that good stuff that y'all over there on the other side of the Atlantic are used to.
Not sure if anyone will read this but I have a lot of respect for Gabi for covering this issue and for others who have shared stories. If you have read it, thanks, I don't mind sharing my story where appropriate but I try to get on with life without thinking of myself as mentally ill. I try to be productive, to love the people I love, to help out where I can, to write, create music, to study, to be politically active and so much more. If anyone here met me, they'd fall in love. Jokes - but in all seriousness if you met me, you wouldn't know that I suffer from bipolar disorder and we would probably have a normal chat and maybe even click and become friends. We aren't branded and we can function in society, but it is a struggle and to see it trivialised by people who have no real idea is highly frustrating and I'm glad to see this BS called out.
As sombody who has ocd (diagnosed) thank you so much for making this video.
I have derealisation/depersonalisation disorder (a form of disassociation) and watching people blank out for a few seconds thinking that they have a form of disassociation is very invalidating. It really affects your life in so many ways, like sometimes you can't remember an entire week because you were disassociating. Thank you for bringing awareness to the fact that daydreaming doesn't equal a dissociative disorder
Yes! I have DPDR as well and it makes me lose my mind when I see people “dissociating” when they’re actually just like staring to the side for 2 seconds.
bruh i zoned out for a sec and this kid was like "omg are u disassociating?!?!?!"
I've zoned out so hard before that I feel like it was probably a dissociative episode because of my depression but that was different from regular zoning out cuz I literally forgot everything around me and was on autopilot while washing dishes. My coworker friend came back and asked me if I heard a noise cuz I dropped something and I could not remember if I heard a noise a few seconds ago. Regular zoning out is so easy to be pulled out of with a noise or distraction. I don't have a dissociation disorder that was just an episode I think I may have experienced (tho I could be wrong, idk what it's really like)
I have DPDR, and I have out-of-body experiences almost daily. It’s not like staring off into the distance, it’s looking in the mirror and freaking out because my face doesn’t feel like my own, or I’m a spectator in my own life. It’s an automatic anxiety response and terrifying because I cannot get back into my body.
this is why i love _how it feels to float_. if people just understood others better, misinformation wouldn’t be as prominent around us.
As someone who's had ADHD their whole life, it's been really frustrating to have my condition boiled down to 'trouble focusing' because that also impacted my -own- perception of what the symptoms were. As a result I never really associated a lot of the other symptoms like fatigue, hyperfocus, and impulse control with the condition and just thought they were the result of something specifically I was doing wrong.
Same, as a kid I was only told that ADHD made me have difficulty focusing, when I got older (late teens I think? Idk I have bad memory) I finally looked into it (didn’t look into it sooner bc I trusted the adults in my life to inform me of the thing I was diagnosed with) and it was like a switch had flipped, like so many things that were “wrong with me” that I had lamented and wondered about were just. Normal ADHD shit. That nobody thought was important to inform me of. Because everyone knows ADHD as “the disorder that either makes you bounce off the walls or that makes you unable to concentrate” so clearly telling the kid _with ADHD_ about what else it can do is not important.
i love this video cause its just. so real. My brother has autism and for, idk like 7 years, I have been suspecting that I also had it. About 3 of those years were just me going "lmao probably" whenever I got asked. It wasn't until i started getting tiktoks about the way autism presents in afab individuals that i actually started looking into it. I did SO MUCH RESEARCH. So many articles, so much of looking at other peoples experiences and then about 4 YEARS of getting stuffed around by "professionals". I just got my diagnosis, literally earlier this week. Neurodivergence like adhd and autism and mental illnesses cannot be diagnosed in seconds. BUT if you do resonate with symptoms, its 100% worth looking into further. Official diagnoses are expensive and difficult, but if you have been researching, considering, thinking over how your mental health affects your life for years? I personally don't think an official diagnosis is necessary, but they are helpful.
i hate having adhd. i forget. everything. like actually everything. it's debilitating and i've cried so many times wondering why i just can't remember anything that i need to remember. i can't focus on things i used to enjoy doing. i love reading but i can never focus enough to read and i hate it. it doesn't matter how hard i try sometimes i just can't read books and sometimes even single paragraphs because i'm too disctracted and sometimes overwhelmed from all the words. i can't just sit down and watch something without having to check my phone every few minutes or without using my phone and then i zone out of whatever i'm watching and have no idea what's happening but don't care enough to go back. i can't wash the dishes because of sensory issues. i hate the feeling of slime and i'd rather chew glass than touch slime.
i was told by my family i was using forgetting as an excuse as to why i couldn't do what i was supposed to do but i genuinly have a terrible time remembering to do nearly anything. i can't even keep a normal routine because i forget about everything
and i have these rituals i have to do many times a day or else i don't feel normal. like i don't feel like myself and i feel incomplete and it's annoying because i often have to stop what i'm doing just so i can do them. idk if that's an adhd thing but it's just an extra thing that i've dealt with forever
this resonates so much with me-when-I-was-a-young-adult and I just want to say that it can and does get better!! I know this is something people usually say for depression or grief but it doesn't just apply to that. Over time we learn more about ourselves and try out different strategies and move into new living situations and all of it together really makes a difference!!
one of the things you mentioned-- the dishes-- especially resonated with me. I also have adhd, and would (not infrequently!) become so overwhelmed by the stress and feel of doing the dishes that I would have to force myself to finish cleaning while actively crying. I thought doing dishes would always be impossible for me.
but after accepting that the coping strategies I needed to do dishes without getting overwhelmed are not only valid but vitally important, the situation started improving! and because I've been able to do dishes without crying, I stopped being as stressed about it, and was slowly able to loosen up on the coping mechanisms until I rarely need them at all! Of course, the right medication helped in that journey too (as much as over-medication made part of it even harder).
and to the part on reading-- it can be hard to tell where ADHD ends and the addictive nature of phones and the Internet begins, but I promise it is worth trying to find that line for yourself! mindfulness can feel like you're being strangled at first, but it doesn't have to look like meditation, especially for us ADHDers! it can look like practicing doing only one thing at once, like only watching a short yt video without swapping to a different app any time you feel boredom creep in. I know it sounds like neurotypical Karen advice, but if you're patient with yourself and keep trying, over time you may notice you can focus for longer and longer stretches! it is genuinely uncomfortable at the beginning, I won't lie. boredom is a bitch that neurotypicals completely underestimate. but I really think it's worth it to try, over and over, because it's not fair that tech is making our fucked up focus even worse than it naturally is. if you can find what mindfulness means to you, it may help you read again! even if the process is slow.
Sorry for this absolute essay under your very personal comment, but I just wanted to let you know that there is hope, even for something like adhd. don't give up, and be kind to yourself. you deserve it!
@@juno5756 you're good!! i appreciate the time taken to respond!! i will have to actually try to do some of that to get a better attention span because man,
As someone with diagnosed OCD, it’s kinda annoying when everyone claims to be OCD, but I’ve mostly gotten used to it. It is nice to hear someone mention anxiety making your throat feel like it’s closing up though. That happens to me a lot, and it’s nice to know I’m not the only one dealing with that exact symptom.
I've got OCD too and I also just and to get used to it
anaphylaxis is so incredibly distressing. i'm really sorry you experience it! it's literally the worst when stress / anxiety manifest as physical symptoms.
I don't even have OCD and it still annoys me when people say perfectionism is OCD. I know what it's like to have a mental illness and I always wanna call people out like "are u having extreme anxiety and feel like the world will end if u don't straighten that pencil?"
I'm not diagnosed and I feel like it's not very extreme but if I touch money I can't think of anything but the germs on my hands until I wash them (usually twice). So I might have a hint of OCD but it's not as severe as someone who goes into full panic if they don't switch the lights on and off a couple of times.
Also watching Bruno in Encanto when he does the knock knock knock on wood and the salt over the shoulder and holding his breath with his fingers crossed. I felt like that was supposed to portray him having OCD with compulsions he had to perform but everyone was like "he's so quirky and paranoid" idk it was nice to see if they portrayed him having OCD in a movie but it sucks that no one saw it as such. But I could be wrong, just my thoughts on it.
Sorry for the rant lol
i had a friend group that self diagnosed more than anybody else, and i wanted to be included, so i mistakenly diagnosed myself as well. but that friend group was diagnosing themselves with DID and other super serious issues. i left that group a while back but that self-diagnosis mentality kind of sticks around. i’m definitely changing my ways from that, and i did have some dissociation episodes, back when i was in that group. it happened in the way of the third-person perspective and that fuzziness and it was awful. it’s definitely decreased since i found my real friends.
recently, after i left that group and found my people, another girl moved here. she was new and i had an open mind- at first. she joined marching band, and as we were getting the marimbas ready for performance, we had to put zipties on the microphones. this girl, i’ll call her Red, she asked our group’s leader if he had OCD. because he wanted things to be organized. he replied with no i dont have OCD. Red went and said, “oh. you probably have OCD!” like what? he said he didnt have OCD. many other issues happened with Red but that’s a whole topic
As someone who does have Depression, ADHD, and anxiety, I thank you for making this video.