When YouTuber Apologies Make Backlash Worse
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Sienna Mae's embarrassing dance video to a Sam Smith song in response to Jack Wright, and Gus Johnson's apology video only being released after two failed attempts at making amends with his community- both making themselves look like a laughing stock and not being taken seriously anymore. Let's talk about it.
Sabrina's video: • My ectopic pregnancy.
Ethan Klein's video: • Jack Wright & Sienna Mae
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i think it's an important thing to discuss: can you guys think of any instances where you've forgiven a youtuber and come back to their content? has there ever been a "good" apology that was well received? what makes the difference between an insincere and sincere apology video- how can you tell?
I like a youtuber that is proactively looking into themselves and their image.
Ethan for example will continue to call himself out for stupid shit he says. He did it just today 😆🤣 still love watching his shows.
It's when a UA-camr has to be told and reminded of their wrongdoings and pryed an apology out of...then I'm already gone, man. ✌
I think honest self reflection is most important. UA-camrs who just come up with excuses, usually don’t get away with them.
pyrocynical lol
D'Angelo Wallace made a shitty video about a woman who he felt was gatekeeping tattoos but really she wasn't, and when he apologized I felt his apology was truly sincere. He didn't try to place blame elsewhere, didnt delete the video, he just owned it. So I forgave his mistake and continued being a fan.
In the grand scheme of things, what he did was a drop in the bucket compared to others, but how he handled it was an example of how everyone should own their mistakes.
It doesn't really count because the person stopped making content and her career wasn't in jeopardy before the apology, but Jenna Marbles made one of the most believable apologies with her last video because it wasn't being asked for and she actually showed the things she did wrong in the video, fully owning up to the actions she was apologizing for like very few apologies actually do.
5 years ago, I was sexually assaulted by an ex of mine. I came forward about it, and was met with all sorts of hateful comments calling me a liar, saying I "couldn't be raped" simply because I was a guy. I never even got so much as an apology from my abuser. So to see Sienna Mae's response, how not serious she took the situation, it upsets me to my core.
i can relate. i'm a girl but an ex best friend of mine pushed me to do things with her that i didn't want to do. i didn't realize it until rehashing the relationship with a friend i have now. she pointed out how i was coerced and that it didn't equal consent, where i just felt really embarrassed and ashamed about it, like as if i had equal responsibility when i didn't. she isolated me from all my other friends and made me feel like she was the only person who could ever care about me, then used that for her own gratification. it's really disturbing the level of benefit of the doubt we give to female predators.
@@rudedrugs I am so sorry this happened to you :(
My situation, I didn't consent, nor was I coerced. I was passed out from sheer exhaustion, and not to get too graphic, but I must have gotten an erection in my sleep, because when I woke up later that night, she was on top of me. I had literally no strength to fight it. She restrained my arms and wouldn't get off of me no matter how hard I struggled and told her no.
@@MrSaberine I am so sorry. It absolutely breaks my heart how little is done for male SA victims, it’s so sick. I hope that you’ve had the time to, and can continue to heal. You’re so strong.
@@aniya2633 I have healed and learned to move past my pain. I've since gone on to engage myself to a woman who has 2 kids that I love with all my heart and soul. I didn't know how to be loved before, but now I do. I know I'm not only worthy, but capable of love and being loved. Thank you so much for your kind words ❤️
@@MrSaberine your story breaks my heart. i wish male SA victims were taken more seriously, you’re strong for going through that and i’m glad to hear you’re doing well now!
These apologies are all terrible, if only they had a ukulele.
ALL ABOARD
@@CostumeMan-x4r THE TOXIC GOSSIP TRAIN
@@Emilyforpresident_youtubea one way ticket to manipulation station? (Idk if thats the lyrics)
@@Gaons.hair_those are toght, but youre sayong it a bit too early :)
@@Emilyforpresident_youtube chugging down the tracks of misinformation!!
Listening to Gus' apology radiates "go girl give us nothing!" I didn't know about anything until I saw a clip of Eddy Burback saying he doesn't accept Gus' apology and wants to move away from it.
Same. It really wasn't until hearing Eddy say that that I truly appreciated the severity of it. I even stopped subscribing to Ryantheleader because of it
@@trisaratopsx oh pls no what happened with Ryan the Leader? Or are you just saying because he was associated with Gus?
@@TheAmishRifle he's associated with him and had Gus in a video somewhat recently. It just made me feel icky
@@trisaratopsx I unsubscribed from Ian Kung for the same reason, he’s been in practically 3/4 of Gus’s videos since he got canceled
@@cheetohands9 same. really liked ians videos but him appearing in gus' videos right after the controversy doesnt sit well with me
When Gus first popped up in my recomendations I didn't want to watch him becuase both his looks and humour reminded me of my abusive ex-boyfriend. When I finally decided to subscribe, because I liked the videos, it felt so good because I told myself that I moved on and not everything that reminds me of my past actally has to do with him. Finding out that Gus was abusive had a weirdly large impact on me.
I'm so sorry. I feel that.
maybe your gut just knew, sorry you had that experience!
Exactly the same here
Ugh, that must have been really tough, I’m so sorry.
Thanks to all of you!!!
I thought the first girl's apology was an ad roll for a second and got confused why I couldn't skip
Yeah I didn't know who she was so I guess nothing valuable was lost lol
love what you said about kids doing regrettable things vs adults committing crimes and being abusive. i feel like most people online are quick to assume that one shitty thing done 5 years ago reflects who people are in their present state. and then that argument comes back up by excusing people like gus so quickly with such little info. you hit the nail on the head
idk i get like people changing from being bullied or whatever but i don’t want to accept apologies from someone who said racist shit even if it was 5 years ago. i would forgive if they were under 16, but after that you should know what you’re saying, and racist people don’t deserve platforms
@@hihi-ug1fc yea honestly. Especially when they still show problematic behavior in other ways
@@hihi-ug1fc this right here
I understand, but for me personally, if I think they changed. I don’t care what they said.
@@alexisdogbo7958 I agree. If we loose our ability to forgive, why would those who do wrong want to change?
i think jenna marbles has had the only good apology video. no one called her out, she just apologized, said she was going to leave, and then she did. i miss her a lot, her content got me through so many downright brutal times in my life, but i just hope she’s happier now than she was before
I miss her content so much, it was a much needed lighthearted relief from shitty weeks. I really hope she is happier now, her and julien deserve the best
idk i remember her getting called out on Twitter for some problematic shit in the past but i could be misremembering
@@flower-yl6iw yeah she was called out, made her video explaining what she did and saying she wasn't proud of it and quietly disappeared from the internet
I loved her too. However the apology was a little off flavor. A very “I’m sorry you feel that way” kind of thing. I still watch her old videos fondly. But I don’t think her apology was flawless either.
@@Filbie fuck else is she supposed to say? A bunch of internet weirdos care about her life and judge her higher than others, if I was in her situation I really would’nt give to much a fuck what people thought either
"You know, someone else would've left you by now." -Gus to Sabrina as she struggles through pain and asking for help.
That shit was the one that… my jaw just dropped. We feel betrayed as his audience, and to be his partner and hear that… I just can’t support him anymore. It doesn’t matter what he says. That’s all I need to hear. I believe her.
@@mirabelarmstrong433 Her voice when she said it too, it's obvious she still feels hurt over that comment.
I'll never consume a single second of his content ever again if not for everything else, because of this one right here. I loved his comedy but that is irrelevant to me at this point. His behavior is just disgraceful and horribly sad. I'm thankful to know who he is now as to not support him anymore. What a shove off the ledge of grace this was.
I just unsubscribed to him. She is a queen and she deserves better than this!!
Statistically speaking, most men leave their partners when they are sick during marriage. So really, just par for the course.
One of the worst things I noticed in Gus’s apology was that he said it was “over three years ago” almost like he said, “hey cmon guys it was three years ago it was a different time” like Jesus man
I'm not good at picking apart why some apologies are so hard to buy, but I think a big one is the presence of a lot of little things like that trying to absolve blame without being explicit about them being about trying to absolve blame.
The only apologies I've ever been able to buy don't have things like that and really dissect the situation in a way which *shows* the thought they've put into what they did wrong and how to not make it happen again, doesn't *tell* me.
Just found this video. I can safely say women have tried to SA me many times back in college and high school. Didn't realise it was SA though at the time. I would complain and my friends are like bruh you could have hooked up! What if that wasn't what I wanted? People are weird 😕
Theres such a double standard with this stuff. Coming from a woman whos experienced SA: its unreal to me. It's EXTREMELY unnerving to see the difference in public treatment especially; ie. headlines saying "high school teacher sleeps with male student" rather than "High school teacher rapes male student" when we'd call it rape if it was a male teacher and a female student. SA on men is made the punchline in comedies all the time too. You guys are expected to 'want it', when theres no difference between men and women when it comes to being taken advantage of sexually. It's very scarring! Especially if you feel like you cant talk about it without a comment about 'you shouldve hooked up with her'. No, shes a Predator!
Best wishes to you. There are many people who understand you; men and women alike who get it - that its the same damn thing.
@@Bean-hz8jo I'm sorry to hear that honestly. No one should have to put up with unwanted touching. Even when you make it quite evident you aren't interested. Oh completely agree it's an insane double standard you see to this day. Everytime it comes up in the news you'll see people commenting ohhhh what a dream I'd love that to happen! When really someone is being taken advantage of and are gullible at that age, obviously completely unprofessional and wrong. Thank you for your kind words, it's good to know there are decent people out here ✌ oh the stories I could tell 😅 peace you kind soul.
exactly, men arent there for people to fuck. if you stand up against rape and SA for women then do it for men as well, or else barely anythings gonna change.
I hate that this is our reality and I'm sorry you experienced SA. We're stronger united against abusers. We should all work to break down the double standard and stand equally to support every survivor regardless of their sex and gender.
Yeah back before I transitioned I experienced it as a young boy and thought I should just “man up” and that it’s “not that bad”, now I realise that those standards of masculinity aren’t fair and that men should be able to report abuse and be taken seriously by others. Anyways I’m a woman now so that was a while ago but I still don’t feel I can talk about it truly
Sienna Mae’s apology tripped so Colleen’s could fall
She danced to her song
I haven't even seen this video yet and I know this comment is gold.
@@Pollenater429 someone needs to edit the video of Sienna Mae's "apology dance" to have the music of Colleen Balinger's "apology song" so they can have an "apology" collab
We have an apology song, and an apology dance, why don’t they meet up and make a musical?
what breaks my heart is the like/dislike ratio on gus' video. i have a chrome extention on my computer called return youtube dislike which shows the dislike count, and checking today gus' apology was 43k likes to 25k dislikes. it really disappoints me that THAT many people are willing to excuse his behavior. i used to be one of the biggest gus johnson fans ever, i even went on tour to see him in 2019, and remember thinking at his meet and greet how he was one of the most genuine people ever. but once sabrina's video came out there was absolutely no excusing what he did. it shows how good some creators are at hiding the worst parts of themselves. it blows me away how his fanbase doesnt see anything wrong with it.
The dislikes being so low compared to the likes, might be due to most people not being able to see the number, and thus not having as much of an incentive to click it.
Also. Even with the numbers on it I never really saw the actual point in dislikes, so I hardly ever disliked, even back then.
All that being said. Yeah. 43k likes is concerning as all hell.
@@emilbovbjerg or maybe people like me never bothered to even give him that one watch time. He needed to apologize to Sabrina but the videos he and his brother did right after Sabrina's video were so dumb it don't need another view.
@@fa1ruz Also that
Why would I care if the funny man is a bad boyfriend. It literally isn’t my problem
@@slothschewgum he isn't just a bad boyfriend he was an emotionally abusive one, and there are lots of other funny ppl who don't emotionally abuse ppl that you can watch, but go off
Gus Johnson was my "can do no wrong" YTer and when Sabrina's video came out, it was shocking. I immediately dropped support for him as what he did was not okay- I've been so checked out from him I didn't even know he posted an apology video.
Thanks for making this content, really interesting.
You're not alone on that one. Right when I saw his garbage Twitter post about it, I dropped him like a bad habit. I couldn't even make it through Sabrina's video, I can't watch people talk about trauma like that, it wrenches me. And now having seen Gus's response, he is grotesque. The words he uses, his tone and demeanor show no signs of feeling any wrong doing there, just shoveling his unknowing fans back towards himself.
Agreed. When I watched Sabrina's "My Pregnancy" video for the first time I didn't want to believe it. I hadn't heard news yet that they had broken up and she doesn't actually say his name so I thought "oh this happened a while ago, it must have been a previous boyfriend before Gus." But slowly the truth dawned on me. Suffice it to say I have avoided all his content at this point, including the smosh pit videos he was on that I loved. I just hate seeing is smirking face knowing how heartless he was to Sabrina the whole time.
@@Yammenkow same! His tntl bits were hilarious but I'm not gonna watch it anymore knowing how awful he was to her
Between Gus and CallMeCarson, it's made me realize there's no such thing as a "can do no wrong" YTer sadly
i dropped him too. But i am back on his side.
Gus's whole apology was "I didn't know that what I was doing was bad/harmful" like, how fucking hard is it to just take responsibility for your shitty actions, y'know
God forbid someone take responsibility while also admitting that they didn't know how negatively their actions were affecting the person they love and cared about.
@@willtollefson4746 I think it is really hard for literally anyone to not realize that saying to your girlfriend who's about to undergo emergency, _life threatening_ surgery "I'm having drinks, I can't go" and then telling her "someone else would've left you by now" is not a really cool thing to do.
The "I didn't realize it" argument is bullshit, sorry. Yes you did or you really should have.
i mean in the end, everyone is back on his site ...
@@LPChipi This didn't happen, though. Everything has gotten twisted and misrepresented. He was having drinks with colleagues and she was supposed to join them, but drove herself to hospital from work. She found out it was serious and called him. He drove to the hospital. He called home and talked to his mom, very upset. His mom talked to both of them on the phone before the final diagnosis came in and before the surgery. There are just too many lies out here to try to correct them all. I need to step away. He did make that jackass remark to her, but it was after one of her hundreds of panic attacks during her mental health breakdown in the aftermath. He was exhausted, frustrated, ignorant about ptsd, broke, overwhelmed, completely worn down from being constantly awakened in the middle of the night, talking her off the ledge, running her to the er only to be sent away with another panic attack. People do not know the truth. Everything is distorted.
@@mysterm1833 where did you get this info from?
Reminder that Gus Jonhson was hanging out with his friends while Sabrina was alone in the hospital (he knew she was going to the hospital and just didn't care).
I respect Eddy Burback for immediately dropping him, I know its not easy to find out a close friend is a piece of shit
Eddy's scummy too lol
Yeah Eddy gained a lot of respect immediately from me about that.
@@MasoTrumoi3 days ago? I haven't seen the gus Johnson interview?
@@slothguts6678 Yes, haven't you seen Sabrina's response?
(Btw, none of that would invalidate Eddy feeling intentionally lied to/left in the dark by his closest friend or suddenly cancel out the fact that Gus ditched her when she was in the hospital like it never happened)
when gus referred to sabrina's ectopic pregnancy by saying "a difficult time *we* had gone through", i think i saw red. who is we? did *you* have an ectopic pregnancy gus??? SHE was going through a "difficult time", YOU were going to the bar with your friends.
As soon as i heard that sentence i was sure he didn't genuinely feel an iota of guilt or shame about what he did,he was just doing damage control to get his views back.
He is such a disappointment fr
I don't know what Gus actually did because I don't watch the guy or follow gossip, but acting like the male in a relationship doesn't struggle during a partner's medical emergency is absolutely ridiculous and once again belittles the emotions of men. Thanks for telling us once again that we're not allowed to feel things.
@@marcussterling7547 im literally a man. its the fact that he was emotionally abusing her in the situation and throughout the relationship. maybe dont assume shit when you apparently dont even know the full story?
@@agressivepushover420 I didn't say anything that pertained to your gender. Men and women have told men they aren't allowed to feel emotions since the dawn of time and you continue to do so. I also left out the abuse that he may have done because it had no bearings on what I said and I did nothing to excuse his behavior.
I didn't see Gus's apology, only watched commentary videos on it but oof that clip of him just didn't seem like Gus at all. What a damn shame. I'm a former fan of him and finding out he's a douchebag was just horrible. I just hope Sabrina is doing well and can heal from the situation. Great video as always!
It's all gut wrenching 💔 same though I wish the best for Sabrina.
Hard same. It’s so shitty you might think it was a fucking parody.
I literally thought it was a sketch. He says he took a break for the last 3 months and his last upload was a month before. Like I thought he was making fun of other awful apology videos
@@whateverIFeelLike ironically, he did one of those maybe 2-3 years ago.
It seems to be much harder to have a child with this piece of sh*t (GUS JOHNSON)! Maybe a socalled "Blessing in disguise" for this woman.
I think we may have a new worst apology in history with Colleen Ballinger's whole song 😂
Yeah
Gus being a dirt bag was a gut punch. i'm one of the people that funded the creation of the Gus and Eddy podcast, and i've been following him for a long time. He was like the comedy chosen one in my opinion. but holy shit, he was so horrible to Sabrina. And the cherry on top of the turd cake was that i had a really nasty interaction with Sabrina while she was going through everything. i didn't know anything about her personal life at the time, but i made a comment on her channel, and youtube filtered it because i said a curse word. i then left another comment being sad about my first comment being deleted, and sabrina just got real nasty with me out of the blue. it was like if my favorite comedian stopped his set during a netflix special, looked at the camera, and said "fuck you in particular." I was pretty butthurt about it up until i learned why she was in a bad mood
yeah, another great example of us just not knowing what is happening behind the scenes :/ i was a fan of gus too, so it was pretty sad for me to hear what he did. some people can forgive and believe that he has/will change for the better, and i hope he does, but for me personally being a past victim of someone like him in my life makes me so uncomfortable to support his content anymore and probably ever in the future
You were the chosen one! Honestly it does hurt when you find out some home truths about a person you have followed for a long time. Sorry to hear this. Respect 🙏
Bro this is so narcissistic I can’t even
Ngl this kinda seems like... "How can I take this abuse situation and make it about me"
Hahahahaha this is so tragically comedic, I am sorry for you but hahahaha
Gus’s “apology” felt like the most insincere apology I’ve ever heard and was more about excuses than taking accountability
God, what Gus did to Sabrina mirrored the abuse my ex put me through SO BADLY. It makes me sick. And the fact that he obviously doesn’t even think he did anything wrong…
I’m sorry but coming back to this after getting off the toxic gossip train, and her saying that Sienna’s dance will go down in history makes me chuckle
Abusers never take accountability and when they're in the public eye they have their hoards of fans going on harsh defensive mode which just adds to it. My heart goes out to Jack and Sabrina because I can't begin to imagine what it must feel like to publicly come out about suffering from abuse and not only have people not believe you but to also be harassed by "fans" for being brave enough to talk about it.
And then gus went on a podcast and basically walked back his pathetic apology anyway.
wait he had the audacity to go on a podcast after all of that? oh my god where
@@fatinnabihah453 I think it was paymoneywubby? im not really sure, but i think nickisnotgreen made a video about it that i watched a while back
WHAT
@@fatinnabihah453 Damn, can't believe someone who lives off of youtube keeps doing youtube activities after doing something bad
@@char5379 Wubby was an apologist while it unraveled that makes sense he said that.
I adored Gus. His video talking about Chris Brown's behaviour and history made me think he was one of the few like really good, decent male comedians. But seeing Sabrina's video and the subsequent shitty ass half apologies from Gus made me turn against him completely. I now watch none of his videos and follow him on no platforms. He's dead to me now
plenty of men, comedian or otherwise, are decent people. Gus is one of the few because of his actions.
you don't hear about people being good, you hear about them being bad. please don't generalize half the people on earth because some of them are total garbage.
tf do you mean "one of the few like really good, decent male comedians"? Most of those guys are decent people trying to earn a living. It's usually the extremely bad ones like Cosby who make the news.
I really needed to hear your tangent on embarrassing stuff we did as kids and how we can grow today. Thank you Gabi.
Yes but theres a difference in being embarrasing and just flat out ravist when you are old enough to know better
We thought that Sienna Mae's apology was the worst it could get.
*We thought.*
Watching this with 2023 eyes right after Collen Ballinger came out with her "apology" song the classic toxic gossip train. She beat out so many bad apologies!
danny gonzalez and drew gooden both had really good apologies around the same time. danny had said an anti-mexican slur in an old video while quoting jake paul and it was brought up during one of his streams and he addressed it and apologized then and there. he cried during that stream and iirc, apologized for crying too because he didn't want to make it about him, he was just sincerely upset and regretful at having potentially hurt people. drew, meanwhile, had tweeted a tasteless joke about asian people in like 2016 and when that tweet was dug up, he quickly apologized on twitter and donated a good amount of money to asian charities. both of them apologized quickly and sincerely without making it about themselves, and drew in particular has a pretty solid history of putting his money where his mouth is. both situations made me proud to support them and bolstered my trust in them as creators.
1. I still think the worst apology was the Travis Scott apology
2. you are so right about wholesome tubers that we never would think would have drama like Philip DiFranco attacking Ethan Klein randomly but then just brushing it under the rug rather then making an apology video
i was a victim of S.A. and was nearly r*ped by an ex after we broke up. people always laughed at me and told me that men cant be r*ped by women.
It makes me so friggin happy to see people being able to be more open about their experiences without being humiliated by others and told that what happened to you didnt really happen.
Sorry to hear you had to go through both an initial abuse and then subsequent gaslighting. Unfortunately, anyone can potentially become a victim of S.A or r*pe and anyone that tries to tell you otherwise is ignorant or misinformed.
"This apology video could go down as the worst one in UA-cam history"
Colleen: Hold my wine.
I happened to see that Gus skit about playing up an injury about a week before I was even aware of the situation, and I remember just feeling that the vibe was off. I didn't laugh once, and wondering why my brain just went "it seems mean-spirited." Thought maybe I was projecting because of the mood I was in, moved on and didn't think twice about it. When I found out and realized that was his comeback after all the shit on Twitter I was fucking floored, because I didn't even know what was up and I'd seen right through it.
Even though the Gus news was a shock, it actually was strangely unsurprising at the same time. The way he talked to Sabrina in vids made me uncomfortable-- kinda a lack of respect
I totally agree. In the non-sketch collab vids they did he came off as kind of mean and controlling but a lot of them were games so I figured he was just super competitive. Still made me uncomfortable and I didn't enjoy watching them
I feel like Sam Smith would feel so embarrassed and upset if they found out one of their songs was used by a tik tok dancer making an "apology video" for sexually assaulting someone.
Anybody else here rewatching this after Colleen Ballinger's recent disastrous "apology" ukulele song video, which is arguably even worse than these two non-apology videos?
I remember Drew Gooden apologized for something I honestly cannot recall, and I think I can't recall it because he point-blank accepted his mistake and promised to work on it. Not sure if the larger internet, or the people who were affected by his actions, accepted that apology, but it seemed to me like he was taking ownership of his actions.
Yeah he made a tweet roughly saying
Me: “boy, I sure am glad MY eyes aren’t slanted like that so I can see how pretty you are.”
Girl: Ching chong.
He then tweeted again saying he lost 3 followers but thought it was funny.
@@PetSymmetry ooof that sounds pretty bad ngl. But that tweet was early 2010s right? How do you think he did in terms of his apology and what he did to fix it?
@@akashita he apologized as soon as the tweet (made circa 2016) was brought to his attention and donated money to an asian charity. he has a good track record of putting his money where his mouth is in general, i thought it was a good apology and so did most other people i saw talking about it at the time
edit: it was 5k to three separate charities
I mean even in 2010 that would have been considered a wildly offensive thing for him to say.
The quality of the video had me thinking you had 80k+ subs. You deserve so many more subs, loved your style.
Honestly I loved Sabrina and Gus as a couple. It seemed like they really really loved each other and I wanted them to be together for a while… but hearing all the things he said and did to her? She doesn’t deserve that. They reminded me of me and my ex during the “good times” and I liked that. But he ended up being a massive abuser too. I can’t even imagine how alone she felt. She was gaslit but actual DOCTORS and her significant other. And for that she almost died. And he wants to dismiss it like it was something they BOTH went through? He didn’t care about her because if he did he would have believed her and been there for her.
The Sienna situation makes me so angry towards society. Just because men has "devil's horn", they can't be raped?
i was heartbroken about Gus. I wasn't a devoted follower of his, but he reminded me so much of my brother (who's my best friend and one of the best men ive ever met), in sense of humor, appearance, certain mannerisms, etc. and my brother loved him until i told him about the situation. I'm obviously heartbroken for Sabrina, and very empathetic as I was in an abusive relationship, but even that wasn't as extreme as what she described, and I'm also heartbroken for Eddy since they were so close for so many years and Eddy had to find out through Sabrina that his best friend was a horrible person. it just sucks, man.
Sabrina lied about a bunch. There’s a video on it
The Gus Johnson one really stung. The Gus and Eddy podcast was a highlight of my week, every week back then. Their chemistry reminded me of hanging out with my irl friends, and it was nice that there was so much positivity in that community. So it really felt like a stab in the back to find out that Gus was not a very savory person in real life, to put it lightly.
Still love Eddy tho
Eddy has grown as a person and flourished as a UA-camr.
He's better without Gus.
I’m pretty sure that Gus didn’t actually do it I forget what source but I’ll try to find it
I came to say that we all spoke too soon
Abusers don't change without extreme work
"it feels like he hired a lawyer on fiver" noooo but why is that so accurate lmao 😂😂😂
2 years since UA-cam got rid of dislikes? That’s crazy
Time flies
1:59 I think it takes a lot of talent to make an apology video…
*LAUGHS IN TOXIC GOSSIP TRAIN*
The thing about Gus that always shocks me is that he was genuinely one of the last people I ever expected that from. I would see some people say after the fact that it was so obvious he was a bad person. Butĺ I find that so hard to believe because if it happened to anyone else and was big news Gus would have totally roasted that guy on the G&E podcast. That's why it was so baffling to me when it happened. It feels like years of enjoyment was tainted, and I hope Sabrina is doing better these days. She's such a sweetheart she didn't deserve any of this bs
I wouldn't say it was "obvious" to me, but the guy always gave me the jibblies in a way i couldn't put my finger on.
(by the way, there's a "return youtube dislikes" extension, for anyone interested....but god, fucking ridiculous that it has to exist)
also its worth mentioning that gus's first video after coming back, abt a month after, was literally a sketch about "that kid in school who always exaggerates their injuries". like holy shit dude, thats the most tone deaf, room-illiterate move ever AT BEST
i remember that. it was clearly a jab at Sabrina because obviously she couldnt possibly be in real pain, she must be faking it...
7:45
THANK YOU it’s so disappointing how few people have spoken up about these issues
this video couldnt have resurfaced on my for you at a better time
i think the difference between a "good" and a "bad" apology video is all about how someone presents themselves in their own recap of the situation. gus johnson is a wonderful example of the worst way to apologize for almost killing someone:
- painting himself in a good light. the constant vague statements and trying to word everything in a way that makes it seem not nearly as bad as it was is so manipulative.
- who he apologized to. he did not apologize to sabrina and try to, at the very least, give her some inner peace. he apologized to his community, hoping that showing he's vewy sowwy ): would be enough to save his career and keep people on his side.
- the fact that he thought an apology video was in any way an appropriate response. gus, you are almost 30. yet you think the way to make a situation where your PARTNER was DYING better is to make a youtube video about it? to try and make her feel better?
my mother and i loved gus johnson. still breaks my heart that he is the man that i thought he'd never be.
My favorite Gus Johnson bit was when he made a "you got me!" clip about being cancelled two months before Sabrina's video. He really flew too close to the sun with that one
Calling an ectopic pregnancy a 'terrible period' is a gross misunderstanding of menstruation and women's reproductive cycle.
I'm sorry, I'll leave.
I think he meant time period but they were some poorly chosen words
Don't leave, that was a good joke
Take my like..
lmaooo
what category does colleen ballingers “apology” fit into here?
Bull S***t!
Um all of them
no one was prepared for colleen’s in 2023 man
i feel as though this is an appropriate time to come back
same
Oh boy this was before Colleen Balingers apology video 😅
I’m a huge Eddie Burback fan, and I watched a lot of the Gus and Eddie podcast, that podcast was a safe space for me, it was something I watched when I felt sad, lonely, something that could always make me feel better, and so when I found out that Gus did and said those awful things to Sabrina it really hurt me. I felt so awful for Sabrina whos a wonderful person that didn’t deserve any of that, and I felt really bad for Eddie, I can’t imagine what it feels like to realize your best friend is capable of being an abuser like that
This aged well…
The toxic, gossip traaaaiiiiiinnnnn..
Gus' so-called "apology" is extremely vague, insincere and misleading.
Gabi: this will be the worst apology video in history
Me, sitting here in 2023: bring out the ukulele
Also...
2022: hired a lawyer from Fiverr
2023: OK, AI, do your thing
This! I’m so glad you pointed out it was sienna mar that abused jack, it actually made me tear up, I feel like I’m alone when it comes to s.a from a girl and it’s good to hear when people come forward, I’m getting more comfortable with telling people what happened to me and the fact someone is going though the same thing and people support HIM makes me feel more confident people are going to believe me too.
Then we have the "Toxic Gossip Train"
This is so fitting even a year later with Colleen Ballinger
Male sa survivor here. Thanks for raising awareness. Great video.
Tbh I hate youtuber apologies. Apologize to the people you hurt and work from their, I don’t care if you’re sorry to your audience cause fans will have already heard what happened and make up their mind on if they will continue to support that person or not
Knowing the entire story is good but most of the time it just makes these UA-camrs look even worse once we’re given the entire story. Only a few times has I happened that a youtuber was genuinely sorry for what they did
Coming back to this after the Colleen ballinger ukulele apology… if only we could have predicted something that unhinged back then haha
Omg me too lol
Why did my stomach drop when I saw Gus, I just figured out everything he did and yikes, you really can’t trust anyone.
youtube just recommended this to me (prolly cuz i love commentary videos; listening to others' takes on things helps me form my own opinions at times) and u are SO underrated !! the effort u put into the production of this video is unreal and your voice is rly soothing. best wishes to u !!
i completely agree! i love watching small creators and she is honestly one of the best i've seen !!
1:26 I kind of miss the dislikes. One thing I did like about them was putting (number of dislikes) people have had (something in the video) happen to them.
7:40 With that being said, don’t forget that he also ONLY made that video after he kept blocking people in his Twitter replies who would say anything negative about him or the situation.
I've definitely stopped watching Gus Johnson's content after this situation came to light. It breaks my heart because I found him extremely funny, really wholesome, and I looked up to him in this strange parasocial relationship I acknowledged. This dude has been with me since 2016, so he's just been a comforting presence in my life for years, and when this blew up, I cried lol, not even gonna lie. Sabrina still hasn't forgiven him and even if she does, I don't think I could ever watch his content again knowing he was that awful.
His ex lied. Our boy got framed and blend for doctor failings.
@@ottosayshey source?
this actually aged very well with the whole colleen thingy
3:49 thank you so fucking much for acknowledging male SA victims. As a person who has been a victim of SA from a woman its great to hear this, and this is the actual first time I've herd anyone even briefly mention the struggles of being a male SA on the internet or in a public setting. I feel its much harder to be a male SA, because if you come forward then your subject to backlash, and at the end of it, even if people believe you, your seen as less of a man because of it. I've came forward to people about my experience myself and the people I told (cough cough shitass school admin) actually would sometimes, not joking, would flip the blame to me, saying I wanted it to happen. You have no clue how warm this made me feel. Just this simple mention actully made me cry funnly enough.
Also, to clarify my statment above, I do not think it is any less harmful to SA a woman, do not for a second think that. Doing that to anyone is upright evil and life ruining in a lot of cases, and it would be just as bad if this person wouldve done this to a woman. Its just diffrent comeing forward about it as a man, espessaly in a rural town like mine, where most men are expected to be the ones innetiateing that sorta thing. Its just a really demoralizeing thing to experence, for me it made me feel like an object and like less of a man. I just felt like a used thing, still do. It really sucks honestly, because it like what was I soposed to do, if I told (witch i did, because its just better to get them in jail early) I would be blown off due to the pure fact I am a man, men dont get SAed accordeing to a lot of people it feels, esspesially not by a women.
All in all, IDK if gabi will ever see this or anything at all, but if she dose, I want her to know this literly made my day. It did more for me then you would think.
Also, have a great day whoever is reading this.
wild how gus used so many words while also saying SO LITTLE
OMG! The illuninaughty apology has to be the worst in the history of history!! LOL
Colleen Ballinger: "Hold my ukulele"
@@CallMeMeepMeIfYouWannaReachMeYour username is absolutely iconic
I never liked Gus so the whole situation with him and Sabrina just gave me more of a reason to avoid him. Something about him always gave me the "annoying kid vibes" and I guess I was right in a sense. He seemed to be extremely immature at best and downright abusive at worst towards his ex
I've always thought he was creepy. I'm not accusing him of anything, but he's always given me "man at park that children avoid" vibes. I legit had no idea that he was apparently well-known for being so positive, "boys supporting boys", humble cinnamon roll-type. He's always really creeped me out. Again, not accusing him of anything beyond what he's clearly already done.
I just figured a few yrs ago he was a fake prick while watching a video. So I stopped watching. Now I'm seeing my gut instinct was correct.
Ironic how I was *just* recommended this after Colleen's stunt...
About the whole dislike thing... There is an extension on the chrome web store that will return dislikes. It's called 'return youtube dislikes'. The way it works is kinda complicated so maybe look for someone smarter than me to explain. I recommend the LTT video.
...and then comes the ukulele😁
I always find it weird how apology videos on YT don't have concrete changes involves, it's always "I'm going to get better" "I'm going to take a break".
Never "me and former friend have made our peace regarding the issue, I still regret my actions and here's what I'm going to do personally and publicly"
Promises can feel empty, actions speak louder
Best apology I've ever seen almost moved me to tears. It was so gut wrenching, my stomach hurt afterwards. It was so moving that my jaw was on the floor.
I never knew a ukulele could carry such emotion.
“I am here to apologize, for the 1st degree murder and several acts of terrorism. I will try not to do it again”
wait until she sees colleen’s apology
I subscribed to Gus way before the Sabrina situation came to light, and I noticed a red flag in him when he made a joke about the me too movement. Especially since it was in a blooper compilation video he posted, so he knew it was bad and didn’t wanna put it in the original video; he knew it would upset people… but then he put it in the blooper video where he knew only his fans would see it. What makes it even worse was that his fans were laughing about it in the comments and that’s a moment where I thought “wow this guy is really attracting _this_ kind of audience?” and that to me was soo questionable. Maybe it’s an unpopular opinion, but the type of people that you attract to your videos says a lot about your content and what you promote. 🤷🏼♀️
Yes!! If I watch a youtuber and I see comments that complain about "woke" people or "oversensitive people", I'm out.
@@DwynTwo Get thick skin.
@@JetWindTV It’s usually that these people shouting at the sky for the end of “woke people” just want to be able to not have to confront their own flaws and they might be wrong in any way
@@cantthinkofaname5046Sometimes yeah but it is also normal for liberals to be homeless drones who spend more time crying on tumblr than actually doing anything for their communities.
@@JetWindTV bro you're one of those brainwashed fools. Wake up buddy, politicians in general aren't anyone you should trust. Republicans and Establishment democrats care about what can line their pockets first before they care about the majority of people.
about two years ago, i was SA'd by my ex. i didnt realize until she accused me of doing it to her, which i guess was her attempt at ruining my life. it was one of the worst experiences of my life, and no one supported me through it.
I am so incredibly sorry that happened to you. It was not your fault. You are not to blame. Your experience is valid and you absolutely did not deserve that to happen to you. No one should have to experience that. You are incredibly strong for speaking about it and your voice really does matter. You are so important for change. Other amab and male-passing people while seriously feel seen by your comment, and I really do think that is soo integral to helping them feel validated and help them reflect and heal.
I hope you know now that you are supported and loved, even if not by the loudest crowd. I seriously hope you have been able to find some healing, and that you are doing much better. You seriously deserve to be happy and feel validated. You deserve the world. Again, thank you so much for speaking up, and using your voice. I will be keeping you in my thoughts. Sending you lots of love! ❤️
I went through a similar thing with my ex and with similar results. When we broke up, she went around to all our mutual friends (all our friends, really) and gave this narrative like i was this absolute POS to her the whole relationship and everyone bar maybe 3 people took her side without question. Even my family felt like they weren't sure who to believe and ended up taking a neutral stance so no support from them either. Dark few years...
This aged well.
This video does such a great job of lampooning bad behavior while still acknowledging that people make mistakes and that there isn't a one-size-fits-all response to people causing harm while in the public eye. Really well done.
YOUR SET UP LOOKS SO COOL! and I cannot believe people give apologies like those.
the thing about these apologies is that what they did was assault and not caring about womens health, i dont think an apology would do it
I thought this video released today lol this shit is still very relevant
I don't understand why UA-camrs are expected to make public apologies for the shitty things they did in private.
Everybody has done SOMETHING bad to someone else, by we don't expect everyone to endure public humiliation for it. We expect them to apologize to specifically the person they hurt and do their best to make amends.
because i don't want to support abusers and r-ists? they deserve public humiliation. they deserve worse, honestly.
youtube just recommended this vid to me and i haven’t seen your channel before but i’m already obsessed like i loooove the way you put this all together!!
When this all came out, it hurt. I liked Gus' content, I was really invested in the times he was a guest on Smosh games too.
The worst part about the reaction was the inevitable fans defending Gus although there were less of them than I thought there would be, especially on his sub reddit.
There were still the people defending him and making at Sabrina to be the bad person... Their defence of Gus often revolved around 'stop cancelling gus'. I just ended up saying "we aren't trying to cancel him, we are just pissed off at what he did".
I understand people hate cancel culture, we aren't necessarily advocating he be removed off the platform, we just are unhappy we have the right to be unhappy. Unfortunately the defence also relied on underplaying Sabrina's ordeal which I can't even begin to imagine how she felt. I wouldn't even think to downplay it.
Okay, first, great video.
Second, I’ve never watched any of your videos before (the algorithm served this one up), but I love the GameCube clip for the censor sound. I instantly recognized what it was, and every time it happened, it unlocked childhood memories I forgot I had
Oh my god you're right!!!
The thing about the gus johnson thing i hate is that phillip defranco (who i like and respect) who yes is or was a friend of gus didn’t cover it as far as i know even though he does yt news
If you like DeFranco then you're just ignoring the fact that he's extremely bias he isn't what he was 8 or 9 years ago
@@user-op6kt8pg9y i don’t Watch him anymore