Succession - Roman Finally Breaks Down - S04EP09

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  • @margarethmichelina5146
    @margarethmichelina5146 11 місяців тому +904

    The fact Caroline as his own mother didn't even stand up to comfort her own son who broke down and just sitting there looking sad really shows you how awful she is. Even Connor as his half brother stood up and comfort him.

    • @VeniVidiVicous
      @VeniVidiVicous 10 місяців тому +57

      I hadn't considered that before but had already arrived at the conclusion that she was a terrible parent.

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 10 місяців тому +95

      @@VeniVidiVicous Also, back in Season One, on Shiv's wedding, she had an audicity to say "This isn't about you!" In her own daughter's wedding day!
      No wonder Shiv is always feeling isolated through her entire life.

    • @VeniVidiVicous
      @VeniVidiVicous 10 місяців тому +35

      @@margarethmichelina5146 It was saying she'd have a heart to heart with Kendall the next morning and then no showing that made me think Logan was the better parent of the two.

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 10 місяців тому +30

      @@VeniVidiVicous As much as ignorant and abusive Logan is, I noticed that Logan is always nicer to Shiv as probably because Shiv is the only daughter and the youngest Roy. You can see that Shiv is always respecting Logan and not always agree for Kendall for always throw him down as CEO. Even she looks disgusted to see Kendall put his foot on Logan's former office table. But, deep down, she's always having her agenda and it always backfired.

    • @duewest1987
      @duewest1987 10 місяців тому +60

      Logan didn't stand up either. Truly horrible parents

  • @mirdja83
    @mirdja83 Рік тому +530

    Oh my lord, that gentle little sob that comes out of him. How he protects himself with his hands as he was afraid he would be beaten. My heart 😓

  • @sethcopeland4362
    @sethcopeland4362 8 місяців тому +200

    Matsson and Mencken's reactions side by side are interesting. Lukas seems to get it, has a "Oh, he wasn't kidding on the mountain" kind of look while Mencken's your pushy hockey dad after you blow the big match, a restrained, disappointed "Well, okay then."

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 7 місяців тому +21

      It's ironic that Roman pushed his siblings to choose Mecken but then in his dad's house on awakening, Mecken completely ignored him. Also, there's a theory that Roman might have a crush to Mecken hence why they were so close in Season 3. However, Mecken is married as you noticed he has a wife and a kid on his victory speech. Therefore, Roman's "simping" to Mecken for nothing.

    • @BatmanHQYT
      @BatmanHQYT 7 місяців тому +12

      Never really knew how to interpret their looks in this scene, this one is very interesting.

    • @sidolanters1394
      @sidolanters1394 4 місяці тому +14

      Also don't forget that Lukas found his own dad after he unalived himself and is prone to bouts of melancholy. He understands the sadness and the emotional trauma because he's lived it.

    • @jackiemortes
      @jackiemortes 2 дні тому

      @@BatmanHQYT Maybe there are other ways to interpret them here but I think it's pretty straightforward. Matsson shows some genuine compassion and empathy while Mencken is a typical Mr Autocratic politician asshole who doesn't acknowledge and accept any signs of weakness. Which also might suggest that Roman is not good at picking the crowd he hangs around

  • @13strong
    @13strong 11 місяців тому +532

    I love that Roman's cue cards are pink, like he's taking his heart out and laying it out in front of him.

    • @tobiasrieper6640
      @tobiasrieper6640 11 місяців тому +91

      English teachers be like

    • @ryanorielly5617
      @ryanorielly5617 10 місяців тому +9

      @@tobiasrieper6640Lmaoo

    • @mattw8350
      @mattw8350 9 місяців тому +13

      Not that deep

    • @sophieelsa7469
      @sophieelsa7469 8 місяців тому +2

      That's such a good observation!!!!! I love it.

    • @caorosco83
      @caorosco83 7 місяців тому +8

      Good observation. Contrasts the front Roman always put up.

  • @TheEtherny
    @TheEtherny 11 місяців тому +476

    This is so real tho. For me, it didn't hit until I saw the casket and I thought "damn, this is really the way it ends?" Death is so weird

    • @mimik222
      @mimik222 11 місяців тому +23

      If it was open casket it would be 10x worse

    • @mrsupremegascon
      @mrsupremegascon 11 місяців тому +31

      Had the exact same reaction at my grand father death.
      Didn't felt anything until I saw the casket, then I broke down.

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 11 місяців тому +30

      Also, the way Logan died is just.... simple. He's just died by cardiac arrest, not by getting shot or stabbed but he just dies.

    • @jackiemortes
      @jackiemortes 7 місяців тому +2

      @@mrsupremegascon I wouldn't say I didn't feel anything before the moment, because I sure did feel a lot, but yeah, there are those moments where the wave of emotions just comes crashing down on you, and seeing the casket is usually one of them...

    • @maki9396
      @maki9396 Місяць тому +1

      I've seen it time and time again. The strongest one holding it together for everyone breaks down as soon as they see the casket

  • @heyimJoeK
    @heyimJoeK 6 місяців тому +213

    I wonder if Shiv being on the verge of breaking down with Roman at 2:18 was scripted or not. Looked and felt very genuine to me. Top notch acting by everyone.

    • @pilkers2
      @pilkers2 2 місяці тому +7

      I doubt it, actors can act

  • @TwinTrash
    @TwinTrash 2 місяці тому +27

    “Is he in there?” :’( Still at denial/bargaining

  • @CluelessIndianGamer
    @CluelessIndianGamer Рік тому +578

    What a pathetic little to world to live him where you cannot even cry your heart out at your father's funeral without being judged.
    Great show though!

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 6 місяців тому +12

      Roman always being terrible to the other people by disrespecting them, rude and also talk whatever he wants. However, deep down, he's actually still suffering a Stockholm Syndrome as he is mostly always following Logan every time and always act arrogance whenever he's around Logan. He tried to act like Logan by firing Joy and Gerri and even mocking Willa as Connor's "wife", he's also thinking that having Mecken as the President would be a good idea as Logan chose Mecken to be the President candidate and he's thinking it would be honor him but it backfired to him as the public don't like Mecken because he is a fascist. Even worse, Mecken ignoring him later on Logan's house.
      This moment expose himself that he is indeed a spoiled daddy rich kid who is nothing without his daddy and also shows how weak he is as his other siblings are stronger. Also, Ewan's eulogy feels like a wake up call to him so he feels overwhelmed on bringing his eulogy later.

    • @pastlesandfish
      @pastlesandfish 4 місяці тому +8

      That's because they're all sociopaths so displays of genuine human emotion like Roman had confuses, disgusts and discomforts people like that.

    • @moisemensah8233
      @moisemensah8233 3 місяці тому

      I've been there when I had to make the speech for my mother's funeral. I took it upon myself to be as aloof and well-spoken as I ought to. Everyone was already upset and breaking apart and as the youngest, I felt I had to keep it together.
      I only broke in private.

  • @mandalorluekrem96
    @mandalorluekrem96 11 місяців тому +264

    At my grandfather's funeral, my youngest aunt had the same reaction as Roman. This scene absolutely shook me when I watched it. Because i saw this scene in real life.
    The death of the father is always difficult for the youngest sibling in the family.

    • @buxxi90
      @buxxi90 11 місяців тому +22

      Roman is not the youngest. Shiv is.

    • @mandalorluekrem96
      @mandalorluekrem96 11 місяців тому +9

      @@buxxi90 OMG! You were right man!

    • @buxxi90
      @buxxi90 11 місяців тому +39

      @@mandalorluekrem96 it certainly feels the other way around.

    • @mandalorluekrem96
      @mandalorluekrem96 11 місяців тому +6

      @@buxxi90 Absolutely. 😄

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 7 місяців тому +1

      Also, you noticed that somehow Shiv looks taller than Roman despite being the youngest sibling? Even without heels, she looks taller than him.

  • @leanne.
    @leanne. 11 місяців тому +189

    i remember watching this and thinking he would win the emmy and came back to this after he won

    • @sidolanters1394
      @sidolanters1394 4 місяці тому +9

      He was great in the entire season/show but this was THE scene that got him that Emmy

  • @diore619
    @diore619 Місяць тому +11

    This scene makes me cry. Reminds me of when the doctor told me my dad's brain is totally damaged and dead
    I ran to the parking lot and cried like a baby. Kieran Culkin my new favorite actor now

  • @BobbyEdwards-bu9lx
    @BobbyEdwards-bu9lx 6 місяців тому +55

    Karl laughing at this circulating online
    "he sounds like a sow that knows its about to get the stun gun.." LMAO

  • @benmeyer1989
    @benmeyer1989 Рік тому +283

    Just proof none of us are as strong as we think. Kieran was great in this scene!

    • @Ephraim-Michael
      @Ephraim-Michael 7 місяців тому +1

      Well Logan wouldn’t have cried in Roman’s situation. Roman generally tried to appear strong & tough & ruthless superficially but was always a weak person

    • @kentknightofcaelin4537
      @kentknightofcaelin4537 6 місяців тому +14

      ​@@Ephraim-MichaelYou aren't a "weak person" for crying at your father's funeral.

    • @Ephraim-Michael
      @Ephraim-Michael 6 місяців тому +2

      @@kentknightofcaelin4537 it’s emotional authenticity, which I personally adore in Roman, but it was evident that people lookd down at him for this. Karl shook his head, Jeryd Mencken mocked him for it, Lukas Matsson looked amused and superioristic. So, weakness

    • @sidolanters1394
      @sidolanters1394 4 місяці тому

      No one ever thought Rome was strong. He clearly built a wall around his emotions, hence the constant rudeness, obscenities, jokes, put-downs, etc. It was always very obvious that he was a very sensitive man, we just barely got to see it before this scene (we saw a little of it after the hostage situation in Turkey, that was the first crack). Rome is the embodiment of "tough on the outside, soft on the inside"

    • @sidolanters1394
      @sidolanters1394 4 місяці тому +1

      @@kentknightofcaelin4537 exactly. people who are outwardly tough (don't let anything get to them, never allow themselves to be vulnerable) are actually weak (or rather, afraid, which is a form of weakness); now to allow yourself to be yourself, to be vulnerable and to show your emotions, THAT is strength. THAT is a superpower.

  • @DJ-wl5qo
    @DJ-wl5qo 11 місяців тому +117

    I’m sorry but Roman arranging his little notecards like that is legitimately one of the biggest laughs I got out of this entire series.

  • @TC8787-yq7og
    @TC8787-yq7og 3 місяці тому +11

    What an actor, makes you feel terribly sad for an absolutely dreadful human being who he plays so masterfully well. Bravo Kieran 👏

  • @kshitijsrivastava6440
    @kshitijsrivastava6440 8 місяців тому +85

    This is what won Kieran Culkin his blessed emmy

  • @MichaelEmmanuelArriaga
    @MichaelEmmanuelArriaga 11 місяців тому +126

    2:58 Even Mattson had more empathy for Roman than Karl. Despite their bad blood, he knows from experience how much losing a father can hurt 😢
    Fuck Karl...

    • @tobiasrieper6640
      @tobiasrieper6640 11 місяців тому +7

      That doesn’t look like empathy at all. You can almost see a little smirk starting to form

    • @MichaelEmmanuelArriaga
      @MichaelEmmanuelArriaga 11 місяців тому +10

      ​​@@tobiasrieper6640 I didn't really see a smirk on Mattson 🫤. Then again, I do have astigmatism lmao. Maybe you're thinking of Mencken ?

    • @ghulaa
      @ghulaa 11 місяців тому +16

      @@tobiasrieper6640he doesn’t smirk at all

    • @thegamingelite9609
      @thegamingelite9609 10 місяців тому +1

      I definitely got the impression that he was smirking like the other execs. @@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga

    • @malayjoshi1098
      @malayjoshi1098 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@tobiasrieper6640if I remember correctly he smirks when Kendall starts speaking about his dad and capitalism....

  • @gary587
    @gary587 Рік тому +158

    The Grim Weeper, Tiny Tears

    • @106andie
      @106andie Рік тому +6

      @@SillyFrenchKing silent?! 😂

    • @alainmg2362
      @alainmg2362 Рік тому +8

      Hahahaah that was wild

    • @rootedinland6823
      @rootedinland6823 Рік тому +30

      Such a ruthless insult yet one of the funniest in the show lmao

    • @louievasquez4474
      @louievasquez4474 11 місяців тому +5

      I burst out with laughter when he said that!

  • @caorosco83
    @caorosco83 7 місяців тому +33

    Just finished the show. Good gravy Roman was a little shit, but I felt for him in this scene. Finally all the bravado and snide behavior just crumbled. It seemed like every interaction with his dad made him revert back to a little kid throughout the series. And now he had to face the finality of the man's, whose approval he always wanted, death.

  • @asapdammoh8272
    @asapdammoh8272 Рік тому +57

    Church & State is a masterpiece

  • @subway1425
    @subway1425 8 місяців тому +47

    The whole series you just want to give Roman a hug

    • @BenProd01
      @BenProd01 7 місяців тому +13

      Not all the time lol but I get it

  • @klina7645
    @klina7645 3 місяці тому +11

    Gerri looked genuinely distressed to see Roman breaking down. I think she did care about him, in her way.

  • @mimirants7935
    @mimirants7935 7 місяців тому +54

    That shot of Gerri makes me madder that they didn't include the cut scene from the scripts where she comforts him. Not only was it true to character (the dialogue in the scene didnt feel OOC) but it would have provided so much more closure to their relationship.

    • @sidolanters1394
      @sidolanters1394 4 місяці тому +9

      Nah, it would've been too much. It was perfect the way it was edited. A beautiful heartwrenching moment between the siblings.

    • @michaelhays
      @michaelhays 2 місяці тому

      I don't think it would have been too much necessarily, and definitely think it would have been in character for Gerri. But I think it's also in character for her to abstain, since while she clearly cares about Roman, she generally acts in self-interest.
      "How does it serve my interests?"

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 2 місяці тому +3

      Gerri cares to Roman but she still feels bitter to him for firing her out of his whim. I think not making her comfort Roman is a good decision although we can see her worry and concern to him. Even when Karl showed the video of him crying from Ray, Gerri the only one who said, "Oh, come on! That's not funny!"

  • @alfetoabortantezyotecreo
    @alfetoabortantezyotecreo 3 місяці тому +9

    He's by far the most complex character of the show and his scenes always have something more going on behind the actual scene.

  • @Johnnywiseify
    @Johnnywiseify Рік тому +132

    Real talk, can anybody picture Roman giving a serious eulogy for anybody anyways!?

    • @benwasserman8223
      @benwasserman8223 Рік тому +32

      I think if Roman wanted to he could. He just rarely acted like anyone he met was worthy of a serious eulogy, given the privileged status and everything.

    • @roshinvarghese6879
      @roshinvarghese6879 Рік тому +24

      This was better than any eulogy. What is there to say when your own father dies really? This is more meaningful and more impactful than words can ever do.

    • @thegamingelite9609
      @thegamingelite9609 10 місяців тому +3

      I dont think Roman could do anything in his life seriously...

    • @Highstakess_
      @Highstakess_ 7 місяців тому

      ​@@thegamingelite9609 Like kendall? :D

    • @thegamingelite9609
      @thegamingelite9609 7 місяців тому

      @@Highstakess_ kendall atleast knows what he's talking about while Roman makes it up as he goes.

  • @TarekBawardi
    @TarekBawardi Місяць тому +3

    "you okay son?" "Yeah, I pre-grieved. Not your son" **Breaks Down**

  • @amandalheureux3443
    @amandalheureux3443 10 місяців тому +61

    Didn’t know Kieran had this in him.

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 8 місяців тому +10

      Also, knowing what happened to the Culkin's father who abused his kids to be famous especially to his brother, Macaulay, this hit him so hard.

  • @lessthanthreemetal
    @lessthanthreemetal 3 місяці тому +13

    "Can we get him out?"

  • @PikkaBite
    @PikkaBite 5 місяців тому +5

    Kieran deserved the Emmy just for this performance alone

  • @timovangalen1589
    @timovangalen1589 Місяць тому +2

    This scene reminds me of the Hershey pitch in Mad Men. Roman Roy and Don Draper are both pathological liars who are ruined by a rare moment of honesty.

  • @maki9396
    @maki9396 Місяць тому

    "He's in there and I can't get him out" 😭

  • @aap2310
    @aap2310 7 місяців тому +3

    Gerri's look

  • @fabricpizza8864
    @fabricpizza8864 8 місяців тому +3

    So fuckin spicy, so true

  • @dreadpiraterobin8379
    @dreadpiraterobin8379 9 днів тому +1

    Fucking brilliant payoff to four seasons of a character who always hid his genuine emotions behind sarcasm and cynicism.

  • @Go7Suarez
    @Go7Suarez 11 місяців тому +32

    Roman's tears are delicious. He thought he was going to kill it, then he just collapsed like a cheap tent!

    • @Reaver1223
      @Reaver1223 10 місяців тому +3

      Alright psycho

    • @OMeToHer
      @OMeToHer 10 місяців тому +67

      edgy

    • @thegamingelite9609
      @thegamingelite9609 10 місяців тому

      no no he's right. @@OMeToHer

    • @dvrbjrvr3148
      @dvrbjrvr3148 10 місяців тому +54

      how can you 'kill it' at a funeral what

    • @SJ23982398
      @SJ23982398 9 місяців тому +4

      @@dvrbjrvr3148 When it is already dead