Wow that was brutal in terms of logic. It feels like every bit of logic possible with renban and german whispers was crammed in it! I needed the nudges from time to time to understand where to go next I admit... It was a very dense puzzle!
I echo others' comments - this is a beautiful puzzle. I think that when constraints form a picture, or are symmetric, the puzzle has more visual appeal, and Bleeding Edge fulfilled that. The logic was also elegant, but unfortunately beyond my current solving ability. Thank you Maggie and thank you BremSter!
I really hope I get feedback on this one. I am looking forward to the comments and hope they are more than just times and feelings. I would love to know what worked and what didn't.
I am glad you think so. Imagine a 78 (or 79, sorry Mum) year old woman and her 53 year old son sitting at a computer arguing back and forth for hours about what was reasonable and what wasn't. This puzzle went through so many different versions. But the central arrows and the lines on them that Maggie put in never changed, those were just too beautiful.
spoilers.... 9 in the center of that geometry is chef's kiss and I have seen similar beautiful thing, but not exactly that. Since this all evolves around the central 3 cell arrows I'm used to the factoid that you have to have 2 digits of 123 and 1 mid digit of 456, except for 6, but the 9 is the first step already, so that case is removed. This suggests entropic colouring. The symmetry breaking renban line you said gave the name is also causing r6c4 to be mid. That would become less apparent with only high/low colouring. All in all entropy colouring makes this feasible and surely not a 5 star difficulty rating. I didn't get to the 678 triple assumption early on, but the German whispers made it very suggestive to think about them, my first step was to verify if there could be no 8, only 67, then too many of the low digit cells would need to be 12 and that breaks fast. Since a repat can't be in column 5 it would need to go into r5c7, though, and that can only be a repat 6 as it needs to evade both row 5 and column 5 and be in r6c4, which is mid, at max 6. So testing a 6 in that cell quickly leads to breaking the puzzle, for example you could quickly see you need two 5s in box 6. Without even needing to verify what a second 6 in r5c3 or r5c7 would do. That made it clear it's a triple. From then on there were some nastier steps, but all in all it can be rated 3 stars of 5, I'm not against that, surely not 2, maybe with less insights in some standards it's a 4.
I'm gonna have to come back to this one. You are going way to fast for me to follow along and solve at the same time. Nothing seems too inherently difficult, but I definitely need to be able to concentrate hard on this one. 3 rating by their standards seems about right.
Yeah, nah man. I stared at it for a while then poured a drink and enjoyed the video. This was well above my skill level. I've never been to LMD, but if this is an "average" puzzle there, I'm not going to be visiting that site any time soon, that's for sure. I loved watching this solve. What an amazing puzzle! As always, thanks for all the wonderful puzzles you share!
I’d say high 3 or low 4. Nice puzzle. I’ve always felt you tend to set harder puzzles than you typically prefer to solve yourself. Thanks for the work you do on your channel.
This is probably why I am not releasing most of the puzzles I am creating. If I don't think a puzzle is fun, I don't release it, and most of the puzzles I am making these days I am not finding fun.
Excellent puzzle, lot of fun to solve. Solved it in 45:13. I think a 3-star rating is fair considering the solvers on that German site. The beginning for me was slow, figuring out that r5c5 must be 9 and that the digits r4c4 and r46c6 must be 123. After that I colored the small digits (1, 2, 3) with three colors and then also colored the 4, 5, 6-s as well with three colors, using the fact that each of them occur in exactly one way on an arrow to sum to 9 with exactly two of the 1,2,3. This allowed me to deduce that the arrows in the 4th and 6th row must contain the same digits, so the 456 among them must be in r5c46. Once I deduced that these digits must come from 678, I could deduce that these arrows must have 126. After this the puzzle solved relatively easily. Overall I think this is a fair and very enjoyable puzzle.
Very nice looking puzzle , it kinda looks like a pinwheel. The logic was a bit out of my league but I enjoyed the solve. You explained the logic quite well , maybe I'll try it out at some juncture.
It looked like a shuriken to me 😂. It's not an easy puzzle by any means, I'll rate it a high 3*, even a low 4* for some solvers, but obviously diffuculty is subjective. But every deduction was fair and I didn't need long chains or strange techniques. Overall a really cool puzzle, I had so much fun with this one! At 13:40, i coloured the 1's, 2's and 3's and spotted a nice geometry trick in R6 with the colours. By chasing the low digits around as early as possible a lot of stuff are a bit easier to spot (I also took notes about the high digits on the GW's).
Got help from the video: 1.the 678 triple 2.discuss the r6c4 a little difference is that I used try and error to find r6c4 couldn't be a 5,neither,the rest is not that hard.
Wow that was brutal in terms of logic. It feels like every bit of logic possible with renban and german whispers was crammed in it! I needed the nudges from time to time to understand where to go next I admit... It was a very dense puzzle!
I echo others' comments - this is a beautiful puzzle. I think that when constraints form a picture, or are symmetric, the puzzle has more visual appeal, and Bleeding Edge fulfilled that. The logic was also elegant, but unfortunately beyond my current solving ability. Thank you Maggie and thank you BremSter!
Way above my pay grade, just enjoyed the solve. Very cool puzzle, many thanks to BremSter and Maggie for creating it!
I really hope I get feedback on this one. I am looking forward to the comments and hope they are more than just times and feelings. I would love to know what worked and what didn't.
A work of genius
I am glad you think so. Imagine a 78 (or 79, sorry Mum) year old woman and her 53 year old son sitting at a computer arguing back and forth for hours about what was reasonable and what wasn't.
This puzzle went through so many different versions. But the central arrows and the lines on them that Maggie put in never changed, those were just too beautiful.
spoilers....
9 in the center of that geometry is chef's kiss and I have seen similar beautiful thing, but not exactly that. Since this all evolves around the central 3 cell arrows I'm used to the factoid that you have to have 2 digits of 123 and 1 mid digit of 456, except for 6, but the 9 is the first step already, so that case is removed. This suggests entropic colouring.
The symmetry breaking renban line you said gave the name is also causing r6c4 to be mid. That would become less apparent with only high/low colouring. All in all entropy colouring makes this feasible and surely not a 5 star difficulty rating. I didn't get to the 678 triple assumption early on, but the German whispers made it very suggestive to think about them, my first step was to verify if there could be no 8, only 67, then too many of the low digit cells would need to be 12 and that breaks fast. Since a repat can't be in column 5 it would need to go into r5c7, though, and that can only be a repat 6 as it needs to evade both row 5 and column 5 and be in r6c4, which is mid, at max 6.
So testing a 6 in that cell quickly leads to breaking the puzzle, for example you could quickly see you need two 5s in box 6. Without even needing to verify what a second 6 in r5c3 or r5c7 would do. That made it clear it's a triple.
From then on there were some nastier steps, but all in all it can be rated 3 stars of 5, I'm not against that, surely not 2, maybe with less insights in some standards it's a 4.
I'm gonna have to come back to this one. You are going way to fast for me to follow along and solve at the same time. Nothing seems too inherently difficult, but I definitely need to be able to concentrate hard on this one. 3 rating by their standards seems about right.
Yeah, nah man. I stared at it for a while then poured a drink and enjoyed the video. This was well above my skill level. I've never been to LMD, but if this is an "average" puzzle there, I'm not going to be visiting that site any time soon, that's for sure. I loved watching this solve. What an amazing puzzle! As always, thanks for all the wonderful puzzles you share!
I’d say high 3 or low 4. Nice puzzle. I’ve always felt you tend to set harder puzzles than you typically prefer to solve yourself. Thanks for the work you do on your channel.
This is probably why I am not releasing most of the puzzles I am creating. If I don't think a puzzle is fun, I don't release it, and most of the puzzles I am making these days I am not finding fun.
Excellent puzzle, lot of fun to solve. Solved it in 45:13. I think a 3-star rating is fair considering the solvers on that German site.
The beginning for me was slow, figuring out that r5c5 must be 9 and that the digits r4c4 and r46c6 must be 123. After that I colored the small digits (1, 2, 3) with three colors and then also colored the 4, 5, 6-s as well with three colors, using the fact that each of them occur in exactly one way on an arrow to sum to 9 with exactly two of the 1,2,3. This allowed me to deduce that the arrows in the 4th and 6th row must contain the same digits, so the 456 among them must be in r5c46. Once I deduced that these digits must come from 678, I could deduce that these arrows must have 126. After this the puzzle solved relatively easily. Overall I think this is a fair and very enjoyable puzzle.
Too hard for my cloudy brain.
Very nice looking puzzle , it kinda looks like a pinwheel.
The logic was a bit out of my league but I enjoyed the solve.
You explained the logic quite well , maybe I'll try it out at some juncture.
28:23 not easy for me. Had to watch you for some tips and at the end I still made a pencilmark mistake 😅
Thanks for the puzzle! It was a smart one! 🧐
It looked like a shuriken to me 😂.
It's not an easy puzzle by any means, I'll rate it a high 3*, even a low 4* for some solvers, but obviously diffuculty is subjective. But every deduction was fair and I didn't need long chains or strange techniques. Overall a really cool puzzle, I had so much fun with this one!
At 13:40, i coloured the 1's, 2's and 3's and spotted a nice geometry trick in R6 with the colours.
By chasing the low digits around as early as possible a lot of stuff are a bit easier to spot (I also took notes about the high digits on the GW's).
Got help from the video:
1.the 678 triple
2.discuss the r6c4
a little difference is that I used try and error to find r6c4 couldn't be a 5,neither,the rest is not that hard.