My dad was a drywall contractor when I was in my teens through my 20s. I hated it then, but im happy to have the hanging and taping skills now. Spreading mud has provided a roof over my head and food on my table.
Me too. About 35 years ago I starting hanging in high school through my early 20's. The two of us averaged about 70 sheets a day, piece rate in homes. I was making a lot of money back then.
Sheetrock was a good way for me to transition into the construction field. I did it right out of high school in Fairbanks AK making $56 an hour on commercial work on base. Wouldn’t have traded it for nothing!
I'm an electrician and I've always hated it that some trades look down upon the finish trades like drywallers. It's a tough job man, moving those sheets and I wish they would wear their respirators more because I hate seeing young wreck themselves. It's nice when everyone looks out for each other.
Thats on them. Play dumb games win dumb prizes. Despite having one near by I work with a guy who refuses to wear it then comes in the next day complaining about how he cant breath.
@@TheBUGZNTA i wear glasses and can't see when wearing a respirator, so it's either do a good job and deal with the consequences or do a shitty job and not have a nose full of dust. I sleep well at night knowing I gave my customers what they paid for
I'll never forget watching some young guy installing fiberglass insulation without a mask and his response to my inquiry of why no mask and to this day I'm still amazed that is youth will protect him from fiberglass
Never look down on anyone whose name is attached to yours on a project. That being said, I do not envy drywallers at all and would never want their job. Mudding and taping, just the idea of it, makes me want to suck-start a shotgun
All work, done well, is noble. Nobody should look down at someone's choice of how to earn a living. Look down on the hacks and apathetic workers all you want, though!
I’m pretty good at hanging and finish work. I have learned everything about it. The most important part I have learned is letting someone else do it. This is also true with concrete.
Thanks so much for giving them guys credit my pops is the operator of that Crain and my grand dad is the owner of longs and I have packed lots of drywall and no it’s not easy
I worked for a year with my friend's brother, he was a builder 40 years ago. I remember carrying 12' sheets up a flight of stairs. I swear 40 years later my right arm is slightly longer than my left.
I helped my dad hang drywall every summer of high school in hot humid SE Missouri. I can’t describe the sinking feeling of walking into a new build to find two 5’ high stacks of drywall just waiting to be hung. It was daunting, but he made it look easy. Don’t get me started on doing new churches with huge vaulted ceilings. Hanging and finishing drywall is an art that really doesn’t get enough credit.
As a guy who is an unknown nobody in this work, I greatly appreciate with all my being how complimentary you are about how hard work like this really is. You are correct on all fronts, you WILL be a man before your mother if this is what you do.
At 60 years old I gotta hand it to you, Brother! Helping the guys at the top of the stairs like you did impresses me. My days of slinging sheetrock are long past!
I carried, stacked and installed all the drywall, 8' and 12', when I built our 2-story home. I had to be clever installing it on the 22' high ceiling by myself. Here in my old age, I wonder how I did any of that stuff as I try to catch my breath just from carrying a package of drinking water in from the car.
I wonder sometimes too. I once drug several 4x10x16' creosote beams out of an old bridge and then drug them way into the woods as the foundation of my first home. I was 19 or 20. It was a tiny house before they were cool. I wonder how I did it.
I used to deliver drywall (a lot of the older guys called it humping drywall, but I never liked that phrase much) - good money, but you are right it was hard work. The hardest jobs were carrying 1 sheet at a time through a finished house to the basement that the home owners wanted to finish. You had to be EXTRA careful not to hit anything.
How to realize when you may be old: Read in somebody’s comment that the phrase “humping drywall” is used mainly by older guys on the job. “Well crap that’s not exactly how I wanted to find out.”
@@gregoutcalt6773 It is 7pm in Pakistan right now. So it is our evening and your morning. I actually get motivated to do more work when I see someone doing hard work. By the way good morning 🙂
So nice too hear hard graft being appreciated. Even “just moving stuff “ has skills that others don’t see or realise until it is shown... the huffing and puffing of the fit men show the effort that was expended. To say so in its self is a form of appreciation. Amacf
This is awesome. I’m building a house right now and just finishing the boarding stage. Went through this 2 weeks ago and I share your sentiment. It’s not easy work. Unfortunately our count was slightly off and I had to resupply a few extra sheets but we got it done. Love your channel sir. You’re keeping the old values alive.
Scott, I love your description of this trade as a Hybrid. Dad was a drywall hanger and taper. He took me on the job site as I grew up. I earned my tool belt at age 14. Resized at 16 years old. I am proud of that belt, and my waist at age 48 is the same as it was at 16. God bless all the tradesmen in this world world as well as those who pass the knowledge on.
I recently installed around 200 sheets of drywall in my renovation. I'm glad for the experience and knowledge that came with it, but I'm never doing that again. It is an incredible amount of work and it's definitely a job where the efficiency and skill of a professional team is worth the money.
You're by far the finest all round craftsman I've ever come across. Outstanding, I salute your incredible experience, knowledge, creativity, adaption to modern methods and humble nature. Among other things. Thank you Sir.
My dad and uncle were partners for 12 years hanging board in Portland. The best production they ever did was 135 sheets 4’x12’x5/8” type x in 12 hours. Thanks to my dad and his hard work I have the opportunities I have today and I’m blessed to be able to work with my dad. It’s been 3 years since beginning in the trades and I wouldn’t have it any other way. Thanks dad
I use 1/4" to refinish really beat up old drywall by applying rolling on contact cement on each surface and then jut having to finish the joints... makes for a great finished product.
My wife was listening as I watched this and she asks "what is it made of?" And right after I said gypsum, Scott starts in talking about what it's made of!! Perfect timing.
Exactly what I was thinking while watching this. I worked in a lumber yard for a couple of years while in high school. I was strong and in shape, but this kind of job wore everybody out. Several decades later and my back's been under the knife a few times. My back hurt watching this! Drywall delivery guys and furniture movers always impress me with their strength and skill! I'm thankful there are people who will still do this kind of work!!!
@@billr8667 I know the feeling. In my 40s and well into my 50s I both designed and delivered custom commercial office furniture. Thank goodness some of the components I designed could be taken apart as we carried them up stair cases or squeezed them into small elevators and of course maneuvered around tight corners...,
I love this channel. On hi rise NYC project we had 2 trailers & boom truck for ONE delivery. About 2000 boards 4x9 5/8". 6 laborers sent by supplier, I didn't think it was enough guys. In between boom loads one of them is jumping rope to get his cardio up. I asked him if he was crazy (in a nice way). Turns out they were getting paid collectively by the sq. ft. for unloading. He was mad because they sent TOO Many guys and that cut his money. He said he's done a trailer by himself before. Supervising them I believe him. Some seriously hard dudes in this world. Respect!
I'm breaking ground on my first spec house today. Your channel had been part of my inspiration and has given me the courage to invest in myself. I'm building a much simpler house but it will have its challenges as well. Thanks for the vids.
When I finished my basement i taped paper on the wall in each room indicating how many sheets of what kind of drywall would go in each room. Helped out the delivery guys
The 1" boards you were talking about are specifically for shaft walls. Standard is 1" by 24" by 8-12' and those weigh like an animal. But really fun to make shaft walls for elevators and loud air vents and trash shoots in buildings
How timely. I find myself doing more and more of this work, blessed to be healthy enough, because few are willing-fewer still are able. Thank you for the tenor of your presentation.
Huge respect for those Sheetrock staging guys, AND to you, Scott. I can only hope I’m able to even assist a group of guys doing this level of physical work when I’m your age. I’m 53 now, but I can understand your ability in assisting at your age. I am sending good vibes back to you, in saying “Keep up YOUR good work”!
I love the "if you're not working with each other, you're working against each other" message. I've changed it to my status message in TEAMS at work - because some on my team need to hear this.
@@isaackvasager9957- I can assure you that you are wrong in this instance. I haven't missed a day of work in over three years. I have almost twelve weeks of PTO saved up because I rarely take time off. I'm a dedicated worker. I don't expect others on my team to do all of this, but I would appreciate them showing up for work and actually contributing while they are there. If you find my status message "offensive" then perhaps you should look within.
I really enjoy watching all your videos and seeing how it’s done on your side of the world.I have been in the building industry in Australia for quite a few years now and have always subscribed to these theories “knowledge is no burden to carry” and “if you can’t explain it simply,you don’t know it well enough yourself”.Excellent informative and humble,very refreshing in our modern day.👍
Mad respect to the guys that stock these products to make a living. I've repaired enough holes in subfloor in mixed use buildings to know exactly how heavy this material is.
Love the vid. I have to say though I hate doing drywall. I’m doing a remodel job now where we had to take some out and it’s only about 20 sheets of drywall to rehang so we couldn’t sub it out. I have a lot of respect for the guys that can do this every day. The guy that taught me how to hang and finish was blind in one eye and definitely didn’t move like he was supposed too. Much respect.
I just hung and finished 28sheets in a remodel! You can’t beat a man at his own game! It took me forever to finish the ceilings flat! Thought I’d save myself a few dollars with it being a small job! NEVER AGAIN! 😂 I’d pay double next time!
I did a complete rebuild on a 1,800sqft house single story vaulted ceilings. When it came to drywall I subbed it out. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw 2 older Hispanic guys hanging 4x12 sheets on the vaulted ceiling with no special lifts or anything. A crew of 4 people hung all the drywall in 2 days.
I pay someone to do my drywall work every time. I don't even hesitate. I know I can't do it cheaper, faster, or better. And while I enjoy developing all sorts of new skills, this is one I'll leave to the pros.
Unless you are a contractor hiring subs on a regular basis, getting some of the trades to do a small job (small to them) is sometimes a challenge. (the good ones anyway) Especially something like mudding, where it's "apply and then let dry, then apply again and let dry, then apply again", too many trips back and forth with not a ton of time spent onsite.
And I agree with you on drywall counting. I’ve been on my own now and have tried many different ways to get the count just right, but I am most accurate down to the sheet when I just visualize and estimate by eye.
Love the way you found the hitch in the process, stepped in and provided that extra bit of assistance they needed, and how they accepted it and made you part of the team. Drywall is probably my least favorite thing in the building trades. Keep up the good work.
i used to have to dry wall houses that were blown up for first responders training and hot damn did it feel good to have my hard work go up in a firey explosion twice a week
I'm about ready to install all the drywall on the 2nd floor of my house for a remodel. After watching this I am even more glad I put in an extra exterior door upstairs so I can use a tractor to lift it all up there.
this takes me back along time watching them unload .... never a truer word spoken about it making or breaking a man. once had to do it to fit out 6 (story building) floors with no hoist....its been a pleasure watching you at work . people could learn so much
Been in trades for past 15 years, quality build. The support between studs shows this guy knows his wood. Great job, Industrial electrian first one in last one to leave. I have clear understanding of each phase of construction. Sucks good old timers are retiring.
I started working as the "it guy" and accountant for the local drywall supply in the mid 1990s while I was finishing up my BA in college. I always thought highly of our crews that working hard every day to stock drywall in new construction projects. Those guys earned every penny hustling those boards. And because they were good at their job and polite to our customers, they were the front line of our business that kept me working. It was a fun time. I learned a lot. Of course, I was the one wiring our offices for the new point of sell system and setting up the servers to run the accounting software. It was indeed a lot of good work. I don't miss that job, but I am thankful for the skills that I learned as I have used them regularly over the last 25 years.
I got my leg pinned under 20 sheets of 5/8” drywall in a new construction apartment complex corridor once. I was performing a fire caulking inspection, and 3 guys tilted the drywall back (which was leaning on studs) so I could see some fire caulking. Problem was, they underestimated the weight, lost control, and it hit me right above the right knee, pinned me against the opposite side of the corridor, slid down my leg like squeezing toothpaste from the tube- finally coming to rest on the outside of my Thorogood 8”boot. My foot remained there, ankle bent at 90° for 5 minutes while everyone wrestled to get the stack of drywall up just enough for me to wriggle my foot out. Later on, I figured the total weight to be around 1,408 lbs. My leg and foot were swollen for 6 weeks (major contusions). But- I managed to finish the inspection somehow, and walked away. Moral of the story- NEVER trust anyone else with your own safety.
Had a stack land on my foot once, similar scenario, needed the piece touching the wall, tilting the stack back and gravity took over. Thankfully had steel toe boots on. Make a nice semi-circular "knockout" on the edge of about the first 10 boards that needed patching as they were being installed and finished.
That was my job as a 15 year old. Stacking drywall for my uncle. Hardest work I’ve ever done but some of the most character building experience I’ve ever had. Thank you for sharing big fan of the content!!
"... with the radio off." I liked that; there are some jobs where you really have to turn the radio off. Boston Dynamics needs to come up with a robot that can carry 100s of pounds of Sheetrock through a house and up stairs.
Yes, but that same robot would also eventually probably hang, tape and paint pretty good too. Cyberdyne Systems T-800 coming for us. For now we gotta work to eat.
This right here is real labor! Your correct in saying it will make a man out of ya. I did this the summer before I went to the Air Force! Every young man should be so lucky! Keep up the good work!
I finished my attached garage a couple years ago. My Dad helped me and I learned ALOT. That is hard work for sure. But, it sure is rewarding when it is all done. Even if you are sore from the eye brows down.
@@user-oc6qs1po3j yeah dude actually I am a laborer/helper on a construction site now I am studying civil engineering hahaha but thanks for your suggestion!!
Way to go. We work with a architect who worked as a carpenter as he went to school I have a lot of respect for him. He has more common sense then most. So way to go an the guys you work for I bet respect you more for it too
Seeing the drywall go up is one of the most satisfying parts of the job. Hanging drywall is back breaking labor and taping, mudding, and sanding is a dirty and tedious job. It is a job that when it's done right it adds to the appeal of the house and if it's done wrong it will stand out and look like crap.
When stacking it we set it on blocks so you can get under and pick it up. We also tear off all the end paper and flip each board with the face out. That way you don't have to keep stopping to flip a board to cut it, you cut it all right from the stack. And prepping the jobsite with a large window left out upstairs and you can often crane it straight into the second floor.
We don't pull the strips until hanging to minimize damage. We leave out windows or make a slot strategically too. And spray paint x with sheet count on floors to make sure distributions are correct. Life's hard, who wants to move it twice and get paid once?
@@ericdillenberger7873 Well someone will still have to flip the boards to cut them. I guess you only stock the job so it isn't your problem and like you say not getting paid for it. That is where so many jobs go pear shaped, "wasn't my job". I don't see how damage would be an issue. Firstly the sheets shouldn't be on site that long before being hung and secondly if you have careless people on a job that are bashing the ends of your stacked drywall, then you have bigger issues already.
@@worldadventuremanWe are GC's on hi rise buildings with scores of workers, we paid someone else to load in for the first time ever. There is a skilled trades gap in NYC hi rise market so extra precautions are necessary. Not saying we don't have some amazing guys but the average is...low ish. Sometimes due to elevator/window and boom constraints the material sits a while, but if we didn't bring it in then, it wouldn't get in. (Unless it was 6' boards. But even then it is a hassle).
@@ericdillenberger7873 Oh right lol. The way you were talking in the first post it sounded like you were the guy that was stocking the job in the video. So yeah your situation is very different.
Wow I can't believe I've watched 100+ episodes (not including rewatches) of this now. I've picked up so much useful information from -likely- every single episode.
I learned flooring from this channel and successfully laid my drawing room floor alone. I prepared aggregate by hand using shovel. I learned the new definition of being productive from this channel and now I understand that you have to work hard to be productive.
I run a boom for a living and you can actually order, from some company's, increments to a 1/4" if you meet the minimum as you said. Awsome video, keep up the good work!!!
Yes, once we got such a load by accident. 47 3/4" wide sheets. Boomed it in & didn't notice until we started to hang (vertical, not horizontal like most). Absolute disaster. They took it back but we weren't reimbursed for the moving labor.
Notice how the old man quickly helps when it's necessary but then just as quickly gets out of the way; what I wouldn't give for my helpers to learn that skill!
Reminds me of having to move weight in the counterweight loft theatre. Also a tough job. Economy of movement and team work are key if you want to make a career out of it and still be able to walk at age 45.
I don’t miss hauling rock into my house. For the second story we put them on the telehandler platform and lifted them to a second story window that was 6 ft tall and walked right in with them. Had to haul very little up any stairs.
@@kevynsopinski2617 I carried plenty up the stairs in my Chicago condo. Carried the old plaster down the stairs like Santa Claus . Note to self: make the front windows on the house I just bought to rehab big enough to fit drywall through on the crane.
Plasterboard in scotland and we go 400mm centres and 600 km centres, ceiling are 450mm centres. So if you are in scotland working theres a wee heads up. We do it all and it good to be able to do it, we also go from floor to ceiling rather than right to left.
I just had 65 sheets of 5/8 10-footers delivered to my new shop. I'm SO glad I wasn't the one moving it. I came up with a hoist system to lift each 88 pound sheet onto my scissor lift, which then becomes a remote-controlled electric drywall lift. It's very slow but it saves my messed up back, and I never have to lift a single sheet myself. I can't imagine heaving that stuff around all day every day for a job!
@@essentialcraftsman Depending on delivery schedule, we would have it delivered right before closing in the wall in that case. But if they are stocking for you. It is a whole different game.
I’m a drywaller and I can agree that house was pretty difficult to stock with board. Anytime you have to carry rock up stairs it’s a tough day. Whenever possible we have the contractor leave a larger window uninstalled on the 2nd floor that can pull the sheets through. For that to work there needs to be room to park the boom truck on level ground close enough to the window.
Important note not to stack the drywall sideways on the floor against the wall as shown here. I’ve had issues with overloaded floor joists from drywall stacks. When stood vertical the load transfers directly to a single joist. It’s typical to have a max, usually 16 or 18 sheets, then lay them perpendicular to the floor joists for even loading. This comes more into play in larger multistory projects where the settling of the building occurs when loads are added. I even go as far as to not tighten my hold downs / straps until the loading has taken place.
Over in Oz the Maoris and Tongans have the drywall delivery system sewn up. Those blokes are tanks. Saw one old fella carry 3 sheets of half inch full length sheets on his own. Dropped em off in the house, turned around and did it all over again. I struggle getting one end of a single sheet off the ground. Man those south sea islanders are built tough. Huge respect for them too because they are salt of the earth all round good blokes.
As a small woman building our house with my husband, this is the part to look forward to the least. We had to bring in 18 sheets for the ceilings and I was out of breath. I'll have to man up to bring the bulk of it inside.
and this is why you plan a house with a balcony of some sorts on which you can load those sheets onto with the crane. also works when moving in: order a lift, put everything onto the balcony and don't carry everything up the stairs.
You don't have to design the house with a balcony, just plan on leaving a window out till after the drywall is finished. This also saves humping all the waste back downstairs as you can chuck it out the window opening into a dumpster.
My first GC type job was a house that had substantial burn damage, I had a drywall guy come in and do the drywall. He came in and didn't measure but he took a level to a few walls told me what he needed straightened out and said drywall was not going to be delivered shortly. I had 3 4x12 sheets left over. He just eyeball the job but was pretty close. Good drywall crews are amazing!
Ive been hanging and finishing commercial and residential for since I was 18... Now 34 ive hung thousands of sheets. Of all shapes and sizes.. Including miles of shaftwall (1"thick) There's one rule of "prorockin" and that is dont fight it! Drywall will always win in a fight!! ALWAYS!!! but if plan every move keep a steady rhythm and pull accurate numbers... Its just another day at the office
I already had a ton of respect for Scott, but watching him help lift the drywall up the stairs, even just a little bit, solidified that respect even more. Most bosses just supervise and bark orders, but good bosses will work right there with you, even when it kinda sucks
My dad was a drywall contractor when I was in my teens through my 20s. I hated it then, but im happy to have the hanging and taping skills now. Spreading mud has provided a roof over my head and food on my table.
And still is one of the easiest and fastest ways to build a efficient home.
Me too. About 35 years ago I starting hanging in high school through my early 20's. The two of us averaged about 70 sheets a day, piece rate in homes. I was making a lot of money back then.
Sheetrock was a good way for me to transition into the construction field. I did it right out of high school in Fairbanks AK making $56 an hour on commercial work on base. Wouldn’t have traded it for nothing!
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Same here John. Grateful my dad made me learn how to hang and mud it.
I'm an electrician and I've always hated it that some trades look down upon the finish trades like drywallers. It's a tough job man, moving those sheets and I wish they would wear their respirators more because I hate seeing young wreck themselves. It's nice when everyone looks out for each other.
Thats on them. Play dumb games win dumb prizes. Despite having one near by I work with a guy who refuses to wear it then comes in the next day complaining about how he cant breath.
@@TheBUGZNTA i wear glasses and can't see when wearing a respirator, so it's either do a good job and deal with the consequences or do a shitty job and not have a nose full of dust. I sleep well at night knowing I gave my customers what they paid for
I'll never forget watching some young guy installing fiberglass insulation without a mask and his response to my inquiry of why no mask and to this day I'm still amazed that is youth will protect him from fiberglass
Never look down on anyone whose name is attached to yours on a project. That being said, I do not envy drywallers at all and would never want their job. Mudding and taping, just the idea of it, makes me want to suck-start a shotgun
All work, done well, is noble. Nobody should look down at someone's choice of how to earn a living.
Look down on the hacks and apathetic workers all you want, though!
I’m pretty good at hanging and finish work. I have learned everything about it. The most important part I have learned is letting someone else do it. This is also true with concrete.
Fact. Money well spent.
Artists aren't always the ones with fancy paintings, either.
A smart man knows how to solve a problem.
A wise man knows how to avoid one.
50 years old. Been framing/hanging commercial drywall for 32 years still going strong.
You've got good genes. I would've been crippled a long time ago.
my back hurts just reading that
I envy your back stamina, you're a beast
Another victim of lack of growth
Everybody needs a job when they get out of jail
I love hard work. I could watch it all day
Thanks so much for giving them guys credit my pops is the operator of that Crain and my grand dad is the owner of longs and I have packed lots of drywall and no it’s not easy
I worked for a year with my friend's brother, he was a builder 40 years ago. I remember carrying 12' sheets up a flight of stairs. I swear 40 years later my right arm is slightly longer than my left.
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I helped my dad hang drywall every summer of high school in hot humid SE Missouri. I can’t describe the sinking feeling of walking into a new build to find two 5’ high stacks of drywall just waiting to be hung. It was daunting, but he made it look easy. Don’t get me started on doing new churches with huge vaulted ceilings. Hanging and finishing drywall is an art that really doesn’t get enough credit.
If you've ever held ceiling drywall up with your head while wearing a ball cap cut the little button off the top of your hat. Lol
Yep... that little button hurts. A lot of guys use a stocking hat.
If you want want to avoid herniated/slipped disks in your neck DON'T DO IT. Yep, that button hurts too, but a sore arm and numb leg is worse.
1st sheet - dang it! Stupid AGAIN.
Pliers ripped it off, or hammer smashed it before sheet #2.
@@nicholassmerk A hardhat backwards works too, but won't protect the disks. Sheet rock tee made from scrap or a lift?
@@ericdillenberger7873 Yeah really. Use a couple boards before ruining your neck for, potentially, the rest of your life.
As a guy who is an unknown nobody in this work, I greatly appreciate with all my being how complimentary you are about how hard work like this really is. You are correct on all fronts, you WILL be a man before your mother if this is what you do.
At 60 years old I gotta hand it to you, Brother! Helping the guys at the top of the stairs like you did impresses me. My days of slinging sheetrock are long past!
Lol. I have him by several years and he has me by several inches and some very useful hormones. I could do it. So could my baby sister.
I carried, stacked and installed all the drywall, 8' and 12', when I built our 2-story home. I had to be clever installing it on the 22' high ceiling by myself. Here in my old age, I wonder how I did any of that stuff as I try to catch my breath just from carrying a package of drinking water in from the car.
I wonder sometimes too. I once drug several 4x10x16' creosote beams out of an old bridge and then drug them way into the woods as the foundation of my first home. I was 19 or 20. It was a tiny house before they were cool. I wonder how I did it.
The secret is don't look back and buy your next water in twelve packs.
I used to deliver drywall (a lot of the older guys called it humping drywall, but I never liked that phrase much) - good money, but you are right it was hard work. The hardest jobs were carrying 1 sheet at a time through a finished house to the basement that the home owners wanted to finish. You had to be EXTRA careful not to hit anything.
How to realize when you may be old: Read in somebody’s comment that the phrase “humping drywall” is used mainly by older guys on the job. “Well crap that’s not exactly how I wanted to find out.”
Ive been waiting for this day since the beginning of the project!!! Lets get rocked!!!!!
@@gregoutcalt6773 It is 7pm in Pakistan right now. So it is our evening and your morning.
I actually get motivated to do more work when I see someone doing hard work.
By the way good morning 🙂
@@MohsinExperiments Hope you have a Great evening.
Worked with a guy who humped drywall for years. Had to let him go. Residents of the old folks home didn’t appreciate it at all.
So nice too hear hard graft being appreciated. Even “just moving stuff “ has skills that others don’t see or realise until it is shown... the huffing and puffing of the fit men show the effort that was expended. To say so in its self is a form of appreciation. Amacf
This is awesome. I’m building a house right now and just finishing the boarding stage. Went through this 2 weeks ago and I share your sentiment. It’s not easy work. Unfortunately our count was slightly off and I had to resupply a few extra sheets but we got it done. Love your channel sir. You’re keeping the old values alive.
God bless the drywall delivery folks !! They do a priceless job and I am so grateful for their work!
Scott, I love your description of this trade as a Hybrid. Dad was a drywall hanger and taper. He took me on the job site as I grew up. I earned my tool belt at age 14. Resized at 16 years old. I am proud of that belt, and my waist at age 48 is the same as it was at 16. God bless all the tradesmen in this world world as well as those who pass the knowledge on.
I recently installed around 200 sheets of drywall in my renovation. I'm glad for the experience and knowledge that came with it, but I'm never doing that again. It is an incredible amount of work and it's definitely a job where the efficiency and skill of a professional team is worth the money.
You're by far the finest all round craftsman I've ever come across.
Outstanding, I salute your incredible experience, knowledge, creativity, adaption to modern methods and humble nature.
Among other things.
Thank you Sir.
My dad and uncle were partners for 12 years hanging board in Portland. The best production they ever did was 135 sheets 4’x12’x5/8” type x in 12 hours. Thanks to my dad and his hard work I have the opportunities I have today and I’m blessed to be able to work with my dad. It’s been 3 years since beginning in the trades and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Thanks dad
You are a good man.
I use 1/4" to refinish really beat up old drywall by applying rolling on contact cement on each surface and then jut having to finish the joints... makes for a great finished product.
Never get enough of this channel. Thanks Scott!
Most welcome, Nate makes it happen!
How can we get that fleece pullover? Don't see it available in merch store.
What an epic video series for a house build! Loving every single one. Thank you to all parties involved for everything!
My wife was listening as I watched this and she asks "what is it made of?" And right after I said gypsum, Scott starts in talking about what it's made of!! Perfect timing.
I'm exhausted just from watching all this heavy lifting.
I shouldn't have watched this first thing in the morning. It feels like I'm done for the day :)
Exactly what I was thinking while watching this. I worked in a lumber yard for a couple of years while in high school. I was strong and in shape, but this kind of job wore everybody out. Several decades later and my back's been under the knife a few times. My back hurt watching this! Drywall delivery guys and furniture movers always impress me with their strength and skill! I'm thankful there are people who will still do this kind of work!!!
@@billr8667 I know the feeling. In my 40s and well into my 50s I both designed and delivered custom commercial office furniture.
Thank goodness some of the components I designed could be taken apart as we carried them up stair cases or squeezed them into small elevators and of course maneuvered around tight corners...,
When you’re working for a living... you just get it done.
As I have got older (52 on saturday) I like to do more heavy on looking the lifting 😁
I love this channel. On hi rise NYC project we had 2 trailers & boom truck for ONE delivery. About 2000 boards 4x9 5/8". 6 laborers sent by supplier, I didn't think it was enough guys. In between boom loads one of them is jumping rope to get his cardio up. I asked him if he was crazy (in a nice way). Turns out they were getting paid collectively by the sq. ft. for unloading. He was mad because they sent TOO Many guys and that cut his money. He said he's done a trailer by himself before. Supervising them I believe him. Some seriously hard dudes in this world. Respect!
I'm breaking ground on my first spec house today. Your channel had been part of my inspiration and has given me the courage to invest in myself. I'm building a much simpler house but it will have its challenges as well. Thanks for the vids.
Good luck, I hope you have some fun doing it!
Drywalling is my favorite DIY job to do. It just makes a space look, well, finished!
When I finished my basement i taped paper on the wall in each room indicating how many sheets of what kind of drywall would go in each room. Helped out the delivery guys
The 1" boards you were talking about are specifically for shaft walls. Standard is 1" by 24" by 8-12' and those weigh like an animal. But really fun to make shaft walls for elevators and loud air vents and trash shoots in buildings
Weigh like a Mouse perhaps?
How timely. I find myself doing more and more of this work, blessed to be healthy enough, because few are willing-fewer still are able. Thank you for the tenor of your presentation.
This is exactly why I enjoy watching the Essential Craftsman. Thank you.
Huge respect for those Sheetrock staging guys, AND to you, Scott. I can only hope I’m able to even assist a group of guys doing this level of physical work when I’m your age. I’m 53 now, but I can understand your ability in assisting at your age. I am sending good vibes back to you, in saying “Keep up YOUR good work”!
I love the "if you're not working with each other, you're working against each other" message. I've changed it to my status message in TEAMS at work - because some on my team need to hear this.
I don't mind people being a annoyed because of my status message in TEAMS. Those who are annoyed are probably the ones that need to hear it.
@@isaackvasager9957- I can assure you that you are wrong in this instance. I haven't missed a day of work in over three years. I have almost twelve weeks of PTO saved up because I rarely take time off. I'm a dedicated worker. I don't expect others on my team to do all of this, but I would appreciate them showing up for work and actually contributing while they are there. If you find my status message "offensive" then perhaps you should look within.
I really enjoy watching all your videos and seeing how it’s done on your side of the world.I have been in the building industry in Australia for quite a few years now and have always subscribed to these theories “knowledge is no burden to carry” and “if you can’t explain it simply,you don’t know it well enough yourself”.Excellent informative and humble,very refreshing in our modern day.👍
I've moved and hung a LITTLE sheetrock, and I have a lot of respect for the guys who do that for a living. Looking forward to seeing it go up!
Mad respect to the guys that stock these products to make a living. I've repaired enough holes in subfloor in mixed use buildings to know exactly how heavy this material is.
Love the vid. I have to say though I hate doing drywall. I’m doing a remodel job now where we had to take some out and it’s only about 20 sheets of drywall to rehang so we couldn’t sub it out. I have a lot of respect for the guys that can do this every day. The guy that taught me how to hang and finish was blind in one eye and definitely didn’t move like he was supposed too. Much respect.
I just hung and finished 28sheets in a remodel! You can’t beat a man at his own game! It took me forever to finish the ceilings flat! Thought I’d save myself a few dollars with it being a small job! NEVER AGAIN! 😂 I’d pay double next time!
Definitely one of those jobs I'd let a professional installer do. I'm sure it would take me 5 times as long.
I did a complete rebuild on a 1,800sqft house single story vaulted ceilings. When it came to drywall I subbed it out. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw 2 older Hispanic guys hanging 4x12 sheets on the vaulted ceiling with no special lifts or anything. A crew of 4 people hung all the drywall in 2 days.
I pay someone to do my drywall work every time. I don't even hesitate. I know I can't do it cheaper, faster, or better. And while I enjoy developing all sorts of new skills, this is one I'll leave to the pros.
Unless you are a contractor hiring subs on a regular basis, getting some of the trades to do a small job (small to them) is sometimes a challenge. (the good ones anyway) Especially something like mudding, where it's "apply and then let dry, then apply again and let dry, then apply again", too many trips back and forth with not a ton of time spent onsite.
My least favorite job to do!
Rather clean out the cow stalls..
It is so rare to see a GC pitch in and help, like you did Scott. My Kudos to you my friend. Like everything else you do, you go above and beyond.
Drywall: simultaneously the heaviest and most fragile building material
Glass
@@ellisgreenslade8905 I'd like that ^^^ 10 times if I could. Oh, and natural marble a close third.
@@ericdillenberger7873 or black onyx
Let’s add cement board to the heavy fragile list.
Sure beats plaster and lath!
And I agree with you on drywall counting. I’ve been on my own now and have tried many different ways to get the count just right, but I am most accurate down to the sheet when I just visualize and estimate by eye.
Loved seeing the workflow at the top of the stairs. Good teamwork
Love the way you found the hitch in the process, stepped in and provided that extra bit of assistance they needed, and how they accepted it and made you part of the team. Drywall is probably my least favorite thing in the building trades. Keep up the good work.
i used to have to dry wall houses that were blown up for first responders training and hot damn did it feel good to have my hard work go up in a firey explosion twice a week
I'm about ready to install all the drywall on the 2nd floor of my house for a remodel. After watching this I am even more glad I put in an extra exterior door upstairs so I can use a tractor to lift it all up there.
this takes me back along time watching them unload .... never a truer word spoken about it making or breaking a man. once had to do it to fit out 6 (story building) floors with no hoist....its been a pleasure watching you at work . people could learn so much
Been in trades for past 15 years, quality build. The support between studs shows this guy knows his wood. Great job,
Industrial electrian first one in last one to leave.
I have clear understanding of each phase of construction. Sucks good old timers are retiring.
I started working as the "it guy" and accountant for the local drywall supply in the mid 1990s while I was finishing up my BA in college. I always thought highly of our crews that working hard every day to stock drywall in new construction projects. Those guys earned every penny hustling those boards. And because they were good at their job and polite to our customers, they were the front line of our business that kept me working.
It was a fun time. I learned a lot. Of course, I was the one wiring our offices for the new point of sell system and setting up the servers to run the accounting software. It was indeed a lot of good work.
I don't miss that job, but I am thankful for the skills that I learned as I have used them regularly over the last 25 years.
I got my leg pinned under 20 sheets of 5/8” drywall in a new construction apartment complex corridor once. I was performing a fire caulking inspection, and 3 guys tilted the drywall back (which was leaning on studs) so I could see some fire caulking. Problem was, they underestimated the weight, lost control, and it hit me right above the right knee, pinned me against the opposite side of the corridor, slid down my leg like squeezing toothpaste from the tube- finally coming to rest on the outside of my Thorogood 8”boot. My foot remained there, ankle bent at 90° for 5 minutes while everyone wrestled to get the stack of drywall up just enough for me to wriggle my foot out. Later on, I figured the total weight to be around 1,408 lbs. My leg and foot were swollen for 6 weeks (major contusions). But- I managed to finish the inspection somehow, and walked away. Moral of the story- NEVER trust anyone else with your own safety.
Had a stack land on my foot once, similar scenario, needed the piece touching the wall, tilting the stack back and gravity took over. Thankfully had steel toe boots on. Make a nice semi-circular "knockout" on the edge of about the first 10 boards that needed patching as they were being installed and finished.
That was my job as a 15 year old. Stacking drywall for my uncle. Hardest work I’ve ever done but some of the most character building experience I’ve ever had. Thank you for sharing big fan of the content!!
"... with the radio off." I liked that; there are some jobs where you really have to turn the radio off.
Boston Dynamics needs to come up with a robot that can carry 100s of pounds of Sheetrock through a house and up stairs.
Yes, but that same robot would also eventually probably hang, tape and paint pretty good too. Cyberdyne Systems T-800 coming for us. For now we gotta work to eat.
This is true
This right here is real labor! Your correct in saying it will make a man out of ya. I did this the summer before I went to the Air Force! Every young man should be so lucky!
Keep up the good work!
I finished my attached garage a couple years ago. My Dad helped me and I learned ALOT. That is hard work for sure. But, it sure is rewarding when it is all done. Even if you are sore from the eye brows down.
Civil engineering student here learning a lot of field knowledge!! Thank you so much!!
Get out into field an get your hands dirty guys like him an me will respect you more.
@@user-oc6qs1po3j yeah dude actually I am a laborer/helper on a construction site now I am studying civil engineering hahaha but thanks for your suggestion!!
Way to go. We work with a architect who worked as a carpenter as he went to school I have a lot of respect for him. He has more common sense then most. So way to go an the guys you work for I bet respect you more for it too
@@user-oc6qs1po3j thanks man hoping for your bunch of success. Respect you too. Take care!!
The stuff for elevators is known as shaft liner. You can get it usually 2X8 or 2x10 1-1.5 inch thick and it's a pain to hang
I just learned from a guy that worked in a lumberyard that the double attached set of sheets is called a BOOK.
Yupppppppppp
We always called it a bundle and we called single sheets “chickens” lol
Why are they attached though?
@@sigi9669 to protect the front from scratches and dings.
@@abnerschmucker1 That's smart!
Seeing the drywall go up is one of the most satisfying parts of the job. Hanging drywall is back breaking labor and taping, mudding, and sanding is a dirty and tedious job. It is a job that when it's done right it adds to the appeal of the house and if it's done wrong it will stand out and look like crap.
Good morning EC crew. Greetings from Jamaica 🇯🇲. Been waiting to see this house completed and watching one of my favorite teacher
Thank you!
definitely coming together, remember the site layout and cutting into the hill episodes... :)
@@thebluelunarmonkey yep just rewatch the entire series todate
When stacking it we set it on blocks so you can get under and pick it up. We also tear off all the end paper and flip each board with the face out. That way you don't have to keep stopping to flip a board to cut it, you cut it all right from the stack. And prepping the jobsite with a large window left out upstairs and you can often crane it straight into the second floor.
We don't pull the strips until hanging to minimize damage. We leave out windows or make a slot strategically too. And spray paint x with sheet count on floors to make sure distributions are correct. Life's hard, who wants to move it twice and get paid once?
@@ericdillenberger7873 Well someone will still have to flip the boards to cut them. I guess you only stock the job so it isn't your problem and like you say not getting paid for it. That is where so many jobs go pear shaped, "wasn't my job". I don't see how damage would be an issue. Firstly the sheets shouldn't be on site that long before being hung and secondly if you have careless people on a job that are bashing the ends of your stacked drywall, then you have bigger issues already.
@@worldadventuremanWe are GC's on hi rise buildings with scores of workers, we paid someone else to load in for the first time ever. There is a skilled trades gap in NYC hi rise market so extra precautions are necessary. Not saying we don't have some amazing guys but the average is...low ish. Sometimes due to elevator/window and boom constraints the material sits a while, but if we didn't bring it in then, it wouldn't get in. (Unless it was 6' boards. But even then it is a hassle).
@@ericdillenberger7873 Oh right lol. The way you were talking in the first post it sounded like you were the guy that was stocking the job in the video. So yeah your situation is very different.
Your video is helping me a lot with my UA-cam activities. Thank you. This video is also very helpful.
One of the few things we didn't do ourselves was drywall and I am so glad we didn't. It went so quickly and turned out so well!
Wow I can't believe I've watched 100+ episodes (not including rewatches) of this now. I've picked up so much useful information from -likely- every single episode.
Amazing! I’m just about to start practicing taping. Excited for the next episode!
I learned flooring from this channel and successfully laid my drawing room floor alone. I prepared aggregate by hand using shovel.
I learned the new definition of being productive from this channel and now I understand that you have to work hard to be productive.
I run a boom for a living and you can actually order, from some company's, increments to a 1/4" if you meet the minimum as you said. Awsome video, keep up the good work!!!
Yes, once we got such a load by accident. 47 3/4" wide sheets. Boomed it in & didn't notice until we started to hang (vertical, not horizontal like most). Absolute disaster. They took it back but we weren't reimbursed for the moving labor.
Notice how the old man quickly helps when it's necessary but then just as quickly gets out of the way; what I wouldn't give for my helpers to learn that skill!
Here in Australia, pretty much all plasterboard is 10mm (3/8") thick but comes in 6m (~20ft) lengths
Yup I watched some Aussies and shocked the length used! 12' is a bitch in of itself!!
Reminds me of having to move weight in the counterweight loft theatre. Also a tough job. Economy of movement and team work are key if you want to make a career out of it and still be able to walk at age 45.
Wow, thank you for helping me realize just how much I don’t miss working with drywall
This is one of the best-built houses ever and it's all documented. So awesome.
I am 24 yrs old and since i started working when i was 18 i have set up my tool set up similar to yours for metal framing and drywall hanging
I have been wearing my new essential craftsman hoodie with pride. I love the episodes and detail u put in every video.
I don’t miss hauling rock into my house. For the second story we put them on the telehandler platform and lifted them to a second story window that was 6 ft tall and walked right in with them. Had to haul very little up any stairs.
Exactly! I’ve never seen it carried up stairs like this.
@@kevynsopinski2617
I carried plenty up the stairs in my Chicago condo. Carried the old plaster down the stairs like Santa Claus .
Note to self: make the front windows on the house I just bought to rehab big enough to fit drywall through on the crane.
Finally,love to see drywall installed and finished.
Just got through patching a ceiling at work with some drywall. As a painter, you have a appreciation for other finishing crafts.
Love the choreography at the top of the stairs...
Plasterboard in scotland and we go 400mm centres and 600 km centres, ceiling are 450mm centres. So if you are in scotland working theres a wee heads up. We do it all and it good to be able to do it, we also go from floor to ceiling rather than right to left.
Hard work is just right for me. I can watch it all day long :-).. Serious, my respect for those guys.
Wow! That’s some serious back breaking work!
I just had 65 sheets of 5/8 10-footers delivered to my new shop. I'm SO glad I wasn't the one moving it. I came up with a hoist system to lift each 88 pound sheet onto my scissor lift, which then becomes a remote-controlled electric drywall lift. It's very slow but it saves my messed up back, and I never have to lift a single sheet myself. I can't imagine heaving that stuff around all day every day for a job!
That's an awesome job. Technology has come a far way, plus the will behind the man power 👍👍
Stanley Panel Carry 93-300 is a hand and back saver when carrying drywall. Home Depot Lowes Amazon all sell it.
The claw of a hammer gets the job done pretty well too.
I have bought two of those things and I can never find the darn things when I need them. And yes they are totally awesome
I'm used to seeing second story drywall being brought in through a window. Windows too small for this?
Yessir
Planning planning planning.
@@essentialcraftsman Depending on delivery schedule, we would have it delivered right before closing in the wall in that case. But if they are stocking for you. It is a whole different game.
I’m a drywaller and I can agree that house was pretty difficult to stock with board. Anytime you have to carry rock up stairs it’s a tough day. Whenever possible we have the contractor leave a larger window uninstalled on the 2nd floor that can pull the sheets through. For that to work there needs to be room to park the boom truck on level ground close enough to the window.
Drywall and plaster/stucco really is a super tough job. Amazing though how experienced hands make it look so easy. They earn their keep for certain.
Important note not to stack the drywall sideways on the floor against the wall as shown here. I’ve had issues with overloaded floor joists from drywall stacks. When stood vertical the load transfers directly to a single joist. It’s typical to have a max, usually 16 or 18 sheets, then lay them perpendicular to the floor joists for even loading. This comes more into play in larger multistory projects where the settling of the building occurs when loads are added. I even go as far as to not tighten my hold downs / straps until the loading has taken place.
Over in Oz the Maoris and Tongans have the drywall delivery system sewn up. Those blokes are tanks. Saw one old fella carry 3 sheets of half inch full length sheets on his own. Dropped em off in the house, turned around and did it all over again. I struggle getting one end of a single sheet off the ground. Man those south sea islanders are built tough. Huge respect for them too because they are salt of the earth all round good blokes.
You’re final on to my trade now. A good introduction. Can’t wait for the next videos to drop!
Our mechanical shafts are made with 1” core board with 2 layers of 5/8 on the finish side. 6 story wood frame condo building in Boston.
As a small woman building our house with my husband, this is the part to look forward to the least. We had to bring in 18 sheets for the ceilings and I was out of breath. I'll have to man up to bring the bulk of it inside.
You can do it. It builds character. 😉
Next time, just warn your husband you heard moving sheet rock puts hair on your chest.
Almost every episode of EC I watch I think, "Man, I wish I could do that project at least once." This was an episode where I did *not* think that.
and this is why you plan a house with a balcony of some sorts on which you can load those sheets onto with the crane.
also works when moving in: order a lift, put everything onto the balcony and don't carry everything up the stairs.
As if I am going to design my house for the dry wallers convenience! 😂
@@jay90374 exactly 😂
You don't have to design the house with a balcony, just plan on leaving a window out till after the drywall is finished. This also saves humping all the waste back downstairs as you can chuck it out the window opening into a dumpster.
My first GC type job was a house that had substantial burn damage, I had a drywall guy come in and do the drywall. He came in and didn't measure but he took a level to a few walls told me what he needed straightened out and said drywall was not going to be delivered shortly. I had 3 4x12 sheets left over. He just eyeball the job but was pretty close. Good drywall crews are amazing!
Ive been hanging and finishing commercial and residential for since I was 18... Now 34 ive hung thousands of sheets. Of all shapes and sizes.. Including miles of shaftwall (1"thick) There's one rule of "prorockin" and that is dont fight it! Drywall will always win in a fight!! ALWAYS!!! but if plan every move keep a steady rhythm and pull accurate numbers... Its just another day at the office
I have been procrastinating doing this for my building remodel. I am just happy I have yet to put windows in.
You gotta respect the hard working man.
I already had a ton of respect for Scott, but watching him help lift the drywall up the stairs, even just a little bit, solidified that respect even more.
Most bosses just supervise and bark orders, but good bosses will work right there with you, even when it kinda sucks
Loved the 3 man weave at the top of the stairs.😎😎
Every time I watch one of these and see how hard you're working - I wish I could move out there and buy the house!