There seems to be a growing number of people brewing mid-sized batches. I heard John Palmer say he was working on a "kitchen brewing" book that included smaller all-grain batches. Let me know how your batch turns out.
My money's on M36 being a blend of Windsor and Notty. S-04 packs down and clears up quicker than S-05 usually, yet this remained cloudy like Windsor. Also, Mangrove Jacks seem to use mostly repackaged Lallemand, not Fermentis.
You could be correct on the blend. I used to use more dry yeast in years past, then moved to using mostly liquid for many years. It has been fun to cycle back to using dry yeast more these days.
I get the impression that craft beer and homebrewing is really growing in areas of Central and South America. I have never beer further south than Mexico myself.
M36 is definitely not S-04. It behaves very differently and it tastes very differently. I’ve used both a few times. Even if you can’t taste it, if you’ve ever bottle conditioned with these yeasts there’s no way you would ever think they are the same. S-04 sticks to the bottom like shot to a blanket. M36 is pretty easy to stir up. You can usually pour the last drop from an S-04 bottle with hardly any yeast, but not so with M36. Another thing about M36 is that people often say it’s the same year as Mangrove Jacks used to list as M79 Burton Union. I understand why people say this, but on close inspection I don’t believe MJ have ever exactly stated that they just renamed M79 as M36. They have suggested M36 is a replacement for M79 and to me it looks like people have taken this to mean it was just a rebadging exercise. I’m not convinced.
Thanks for the info. Are there styles you think work well for M36? I used a pack in an IPA earlier this year. It took a month or more in the keg to drop clear. It was not my best IPA, but only part of that was the yeast selection. My local shop does not stock MJ yeast, but I came home from Homebrew Con 2022 with a dozen or so packs of MJ yeasts to try out.
Great video. IMO - M36 = S-04. S-04 has been used extensively for NEIPAs, though has fallen out of favour for LAIII types like Verdant. Mangrove Jack is known for mixing yeast strains, so it might be a blend of a few strains, but my bet is on S-04.
I saw one reference that speculated that M36 was a blend of Nottingham and Windsor, but I could also see it being S-04 or similar. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Appreciate it! It is hard to beat the simplicity of a propane burner and a quality stainless steel kettle. I know my propane burner is over 22 years old (from Home Depot) and the kettle is over 15 years old (maybe from Northern Brewer). With a good cleaning, the kettle looks like it has been used maybe twice.
I used BRY-97 recently in a Pale Ale with good results. I have used Verdant in several Hazy IPAs and Pale Ales, but I have been wanting to try it in both an English style and a more traditional American IPA or APA.
I love that you scaled it to 2.5 g on your site! I brew both batch sizes and I'll try this recipe out next. Thanks!
There seems to be a growing number of people brewing mid-sized batches. I heard John Palmer say he was working on a "kitchen brewing" book that included smaller all-grain batches. Let me know how your batch turns out.
My money's on M36 being a blend of Windsor and Notty. S-04 packs down and clears up quicker than S-05 usually, yet this remained cloudy like Windsor. Also, Mangrove Jacks seem to use mostly repackaged Lallemand, not Fermentis.
You could be correct on the blend. I used to use more dry yeast in years past, then moved to using mostly liquid for many years. It has been fun to cycle back to using dry yeast more these days.
Thanks for the video. Im a homebrewer from Brazil.
I get the impression that craft beer and homebrewing is really growing in areas of Central and South America. I have never beer further south than Mexico myself.
M36 is definitely not S-04. It behaves very differently and it tastes very differently.
I’ve used both a few times.
Even if you can’t taste it, if you’ve ever bottle conditioned with these yeasts there’s no way you would ever think they are the same. S-04 sticks to the bottom like shot to a blanket. M36 is pretty easy to stir up. You can usually pour the last drop from an S-04 bottle with hardly any yeast, but not so with M36.
Another thing about M36 is that people often say it’s the same year as Mangrove Jacks used to list as M79 Burton Union.
I understand why people say this, but on close inspection I don’t believe MJ have ever exactly stated that they just renamed M79 as M36. They have suggested M36 is a replacement for M79 and to me it looks like people have taken this to mean it was just a rebadging exercise. I’m not convinced.
Thanks for the info. Are there styles you think work well for M36? I used a pack in an IPA earlier this year. It took a month or more in the keg to drop clear. It was not my best IPA, but only part of that was the yeast selection. My local shop does not stock MJ yeast, but I came home from Homebrew Con 2022 with a dozen or so packs of MJ yeasts to try out.
Great video. IMO - M36 = S-04. S-04 has been used extensively for NEIPAs, though has fallen out of favour for LAIII types like Verdant. Mangrove Jack is known for mixing yeast strains, so it might be a blend of a few strains, but my bet is on S-04.
I saw one reference that speculated that M36 was a blend of Nottingham and Windsor, but I could also see it being S-04 or similar. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Yo we have the exact same pot! And very similar system! Nice content
Appreciate it! It is hard to beat the simplicity of a propane burner and a quality stainless steel kettle. I know my propane burner is over 22 years old (from Home Depot) and the kettle is over 15 years old (maybe from Northern Brewer). With a good cleaning, the kettle looks like it has been used maybe twice.
Talus is a great hop. Grapefruit and roses is what I get
It is on my list of hops to try out...but it seems like I always have a long list of hops I want to try!
Try BRY-97 or Verdant IPA
I used BRY-97 recently in a Pale Ale with good results. I have used Verdant in several Hazy IPAs and Pale Ales, but I have been wanting to try it in both an English style and a more traditional American IPA or APA.
I use Verdant for hazies, but it's very versatile. Can be used for West Coast IPAs or even up to Barleywines.