Very nice, I wish we had such good prices for these workstations in Australia. The Small Form Factor machines are easy to find, but not the larger workstations or servers.
Shame, since the easy answer would be to get a friend in the US. however, the shipping costs to down under is not cheap if you want to send anything faster than 30 days
Here in Eastern Europe these brand PCs and parts are cheap as chips - at least some 30% cheaper than in USA (comparing to prices of components mentioned in this video).
I went a higher budget route. My goal was a great pc at $2,000 budget. My rig consists of dual e5 2667 v2's on an Asus Z9PA-D8 motherboard, 48 gigs of samsung ddr3 1600 ram, a sandisk ssd and a gtx 1080 gpu. Issues came up, because this was an older mobo that included i needed to buy a special sound card (MIO 892) and had to buy a generic usb 3 card. The other issue with this board, was the PCIE layout. All in all, a pretty nice build. I get 16 cores, 32 threads at base 3.3 ghz max 4.0 ghz on one core. All 32 threads running i run at 3.6 ghz. After the x5600's Intel locked the multiplier and no more oc'ing. However, for certain higher end work, my cpu's are better as they support such items as AVX. The 48 gb of samsung ddr3 1600 was also server memory - the motherboard supports ecc, and its cheap, only $180 for the 48 gigs. My passmark score is 91% percentile at 4855 including > 23,000 on the CPU. My Cinebench R15 score is over 2500. When i priced out a threadripper build it ran well over $3,500 so the savings were significant.
Jeffrey Levin I got a sff build for $120 with shipping included. It came with a i5 3570, 12gb of ram (supposed to be 16 but oh well ) 1tb blue wd drive. I got a free old dell case tax form so I switched into that. Got a power supply adapter from moddyi, a cx450m, and I gtx 1060 6gb in the box from eBay for $120 plus $10 shipping. Was about $280 total, 12gb of ram nearly cost $120 for ddr4 so pretty damn good deal
Cool Video - I use the bigger brother the Z800 with 2 X5690 Xeons and 48GB of RAM. I dropped in a GTX1080 and it is my main rig that I use every day. Really a cool machine with incredible build quality for a really low price second hand
thanks to this video I'm now the proud owner of a Z820 from the same place you got yours on ebay. The shipping was brutal but still an enormous amount saved...I can't thank you enough!!
How's yours? The computers did have free shipping but now the prices were lowered and the shipping was added. I received a Z600 from the same company (for just under $200 USD delivered) Friday 12/28 with 2 5650's, 24 GB's of ram and no hard drives. My 120 GB SSD and 1 TB HDD arrive 1/2/19. I have the 6-8 pin adapter already and I've ordered the sound card (for better sound only) as well as the 3.0 card from the links above. I have a new 1060 6GB that will be installed on hand. FYI, this will be my first ever attempt at a "build".
I used to daily a HP Z800 until just a few days ago of writing this comment. My old Z800 had dual X5660, 176 GB PC3-8500R memory, a GTX 1080 8GB, 500GB+2TB Samsung 860 EVO SSDs, and a WD 14 TB HDD. It ran fine and well, though some games would trigger the PSU overload. Mostly GTA V, but Just Cause 3 would also trigger it. Though I got a fairly massive upgrade in the form of a Lenovo P920 ThinkStation. I carried over my drives and GPU, but I upgraded the CPUs to dual Xeon Gold 6144 and the RAM to 256 GB DDR4. Lets just say, this new system is a whole lot faster than the old Westmere Z800. Not quite sure why it shut off, the system pulled 600w when I ran cinebench and furmark at the same time, 250w under the maximum. Maybe it was a sudden spike in power usage instead of an overload. I've tried switching PSUs, removing extra add-in cards, and even downclocking the GPU, all that did nothing.
Very cool. I've been using an old Z400 with a modded power supply upgrade for video editing and some light gaming. Now I'm weighing the costs of moving up to a Z420 or 440. Never thought I'd find so much performance value in an old pre-built workstation. Nice build here too.
I purchased one of these systems with 16 cores and 32 threads, it comes with 96 GB of ram 250 gb SSD and a couple of 1tb SAS HDD's plus Quaddro 4000 GPU. They are a great value considering what they cost new. I plan to upgrade my CPU's to two 12 core units giving me 24 cores and 48 threads. Love the price of Xeon CPU's in the used market. One can build a beast of a PC workstation for a fraction of the cost to go new.
You probably need to enable the built in audio in bios. At least on HP Z400's it disables the built in audio if you have a graphics card with HDMI audio support installed to the system.
huh, well I have never seen that before. It turns out the audio in the BIOS was disabled. Still going to stick with the Sound Blaster though, I have been trying to put that card to good use.
AA Computers and Technology About 4 years ago I bought an Asus Xonar DGX 5.1 because I thought the built in sound card died. Around 2015-2016 I found out it was disabled in the bios :D My dad's HP XW6600 (Z600 predecessor) also does that, but for some reason it doesn't have any option to enable it again.
AA Computers and Technology Same thing happened to me. I put a card in machine and I got an error the sound didn’t work.. It took like a month for me to figure out and when I changed the settings in the BIOS it said “Repairing Windows” or something so I changed it back. I later did it again it booted than I downloaded the driver again
AA Computers and Technology Same thing happened to me. I put a card in machine and I got an error the sound didn’t work.. It took like a month for me to figure out and when I changed the settings in the BIOS it said “Repairing Windows” or something so I changed it back. I later did it again it booted than I downloaded the driver again
And another thing that has also pleasantly surprised me because I have a single 6-core X5670 on my Dell T3500 is that how even a single X5670 is still good enough even though the CPU is like flipping a decade old now.
OK, I get it. Intel still makes Xeon CPU's. The Dell Precision T5500 has LGA 1366. I will be uploading the review tomorrow. Next Week, I will be making a live stream to celebrate Windows 10, becoming 3 years old.
Much agree with you i got the HP Z600 back in 2015 With 2 x Xeon X5650, 24 GB ECC ram, 2 x Intel 160G SSD's, Quadro 4000 GPU for $795AUD. I replaced GPU for Gigabyte 1060 that cost me 298AUD and added a USB 3.1 Gen 2 Card $40AUD that gave me 5 x faster transfer, Work smoothly in the future i probably will do this again with HP620 or HP640. Great Video Thanks.
Even today this workstation is able to cope with 99% of games ! I have a similar combination, HP Z600, GTX1060, 2 CPU(8 cors) and 48 GB RAM ! You can buy a Z600, dual CPU with less than 200 £ ! My recommendation is HPZ800/Z820 ! The only drawback is SSD vs M.2 in modern computers !
Nice video, thanks. I also got a z600 as a Linux workstation, for photo editing and getting into video editing. I got two X5675 6-Core 3.06GHz and 48GB of ECC buffered RAM dirt cheap on eBay, and put an M.2 NVMe disk on a PCIe riser card in it. The performance is just astonishing, especially for the price. A really great solution for a budget workstation today. But it takes some care to get expansions for the system. There are two revisions of the motherboard, and the first one can not run the X5675 CPU's fully (no AES extensions, which I need, for one) or use ECC buffered RAM. Unfortunately the machine I picked up had the first revision motherboard, so I got a replacement motherboard on eBay and sold off the original motherboard. That raised the price a bit, but well worth it. Especially since ECC buffered RAM is a lot cheaper than unbuffered ECC. Thanks again, really cool to see!
Would you please provide some more info on your M.2 NVMe drive and PCIe riser card that works in your z600? I want to make sure I get parts that will work in my z600. Thanks.
Any drive and riser which fits will work. I got a cheap riser on eBay with slots for two drives (one PCIe and one SATA) and one Kingston A1000 M.2 NVMe240GB drive for the PCIe slot on the card. It gives me around 1000 MB/s. However, the z600 can not boot from the NVMe drive, so I boot from another SSD and use the NVMe drive for data I work with, and for any games I run on the machine.
Wow. Thats a really impressive system, especially when considering performance to the price. I guess the only issue with your computer is that there is no real upgrade path for what you have now. Your basically maxed out for what that motherboard provides. But really, I don't think your gonna be low on performance to warrant an upgrade anytime soon, so that is almost a non issue, but if I were you I would've stuck with the XPS. Anywho, nonetheless great build and I hope you can get to creating great things in the future with that system!
Found a HP Z800 with dual X5660s and I currently have it upgraded to 20gb of ram with my GTX 970 in it, using it as my main rig for now and its amazing for the most part. Some stutter here and there in some games, but its pretty good. Especially since I picked it up for $50!
About 3 years later, guess what I bought ? A Z600 'barebones' no RAM or HDDs for £51. I'll fit X5675s too over the X5670s already fitted. Yes, it's quick with 2 WD Velociraptors in striped RAiD configuration. Crystal Disk says 370 MB/sec but it'll work with an NVMe SSD it seems. A fabulous buy.
Awesome, just finished my Z600 build, Dual XEON X5650 2.66GHZ, 24GB RAM, GTX 1660S . Was a bit worried about the power consumption too but the PSU can make it. The graphic card barely fits in. The case could not be a mm thinner.
Is it also z600? I got MSI GTX 1070 that requires 6pin and 8pin connectors, I used adapter for the 8 pin from sata, but the game still shutdown like in the video How did you get it to work?
This video inspired me! Here's my Z600 Build I've just put together for a total of $306 Z600 2 x Xeon X5667 ( $50 more and these can be swapped for X5675's for an additional 4 Cores) 48GB RAM 240GB SSD EVGA GTX 1060 PCIe to SATA 3 Card SoundBlaster X-Fi Sound Card One heck of a rig for $300!
Built something similar but bought my base machine from a local recycler for $100. Got an older Quadro card with 4.5 gb of RAM. And tossed in some more ram. Running SATA II drives in raid to boost speed a tad. I am into the system for $350.
I actually just started looking into these Z series workstations for builds. I have 3 X58 socket Xeon's I haven't been able to use do to motherboards being to costly. This is a good option for someone looking to build a entry level gaming machine or for someone who does more editing and light gaming. I went for the Z400 motherboard for $40 on eBay and the PSU was $15, but the PSU does not fit a standard aftermarket case so I think I will have to buy an adapter for $15. Plus you can find 4 core 8 thread CPU's for $7 bucks like the W3550 and 6 core 12 thread CPU's like the W3670 or X5660 for under $50 bucks. The only thing holding these X58 platform builds back from being a good used option was the price of the boards, so if I can get these Z400 boards to work I will have found a good used budget option. Thanks for the video.
The only thing I would say about the hardware choices is the sound card. Being a media editor, I don't know why you would bother. If you have USB 3.0 or 2.0 just get a two channel USB audio interface. There are loads of these new and otherwise on eBay and other places. There are also numerous USB connected mixers out there which can do the job and allow easy connection of a microphone for A/V purposes. Sound cards just can't match the features and quality of these. I got a Lexicon two channel interface for about $40 new and it came with DAW software.
Some sound cards don't support 7.1 surround sound. I use this as a HTPC and the dolby 7.1 surround sound is a must. The small USB ones do not support dolby surround.
You can try to tighten the RAM timings and opt for Dual or Triple Channel in the BIOS, if that motherboard supports these functions. This will pull out more performance out of your RAM.
When my dad's work bought these, they were 800 euros out of the box. And now, 1 of them broke so I got it home. I diagnosed it and it's probably the PSU's fault, because it powers on and off randomly.
I did a very similar build, but with prices now, for just under $400, its got 2 X5650s and a 240gb ssd paired with a 4tb hard drive, and to make it NVENC compatible and a pretty good gaming machine, an MSI 1660, but, as the cheap, impatient fuck I am, I had just soldered on a +2 pin connector from some spare modular psu cables and wrapped it all up with electrical tape.
Go on eBay to find good used cpu and other parts with the exception of motherboard that is exactly what I'm doing with xeon processor u could build a good certify work station
Planning on building a cheap gaming pc with leftover parts including an old p6x58d-e motherboard that my cousin wasnt using, and then buying a xeon x5675 and overclocking to hopefully around 4.4ghz, then pairing it with a 1070, mainly going to be used for 1080-60 gaming at ultra. Idk for some reason i really love this old platform, i already have a r7 1700 at 4ghz but i wanted another cheap system that i can tinker with and maybe sell on down the line.
@AA Computers and Technology : Look for an LSI 9208-8i or 9211-8i flashed to "IT" mode. I have both, and both work in my Z800 and Z820, so there shouldn't be any reason it wouldn't work in your Z600.
I managed to get a sata iii card working but it behaved oddly, giving good read speed but very low write, that combined with the fact it takes a bit longer when booting with the adaptor intially, and showing in windows as removable media, I think I have given up on the idea of sata ii for this machine and getting close to 300MBps read and write. I added a NMVE SSD via adapter, usb 3.0 ports, a gtx 1060 6gb.. and I went for the x5675 which seem to be the last known working without fail for this machine as on lower TDP.. but I'm very curious, why couldn't you get x5690 working? I've seen people have sucess with just one x5690 CPU in both z400 and z600, but nowhere can I find anybody who has actually got two of them working in the z600.. great video!
For editing you should must use a gtx serie 7 ..like gtx 780... gtx serie 9 and 10 have the cuda cores blocked... you can use 2 video card.. a nvidia and a amd.. for gaming and render at the same time
I have 3 HP Z400's and the slowest Xeon is the X5670, fastest is the 3.6 ghz X5687 i think. I also have a dual Xeon Asus motherboard and X5675's on it. Cinebench is 1485. My last build is a X99 i7 5820K build @ 4.3 and the Cinebench is 1272. I have used my GTX 1070 in every one of them for comparison and overall the X99 system is a little faster than the dual Xeon X5675's in games but only because it's overclocked. BTW all 3 of my HP machines and the Asus Dual have usb 3 cards with sata 6 included. Going into 2019 all i can say is.....I feel no loss from systems pushing 10 years old and even less from my 5 year old X99 build. I used to build with pre ordered parts before things came out but that was 2001 thru Sandy Bridge. Having spent over 40,000 dollars on Newegg over the years building and selling pc's to locals back in the first Athlon thru around Core 2 Quad release days i truly understand the meaning of future proof and these old Xeons are as close as it gets. Thank God for accessory boards that bring things close to current spec. Also, i'd bet money that iobit's driver booster free version will load those onboard drivers and bring it up to completely updated in one try. I've used it with no complaints for 4 or 5 years now. AND IT'S FREE. Try it and delete it and before long you will reinstall it just like i did.
The HP Z600 onboard audio is a regular realtek HD audio sound driver. make sure you go to the bios because there a A LOT of options that could possibly hold your computer back. And also, did you use the SAS controller or the Sata controller? and where there any SAS Drives in the computer when you bought it?
I got a rev 1 z600 2 Xeon 5650s 24gb ram 250 SSD and 4TB for storage its the best pc ive upgraded.... Cost me £85 stock and spent around £200 just need a new graphics card in it.... 👌
I went for a HP z400 . Cost me 210 $ in total for the tower + RX 580 for 150$ =360$ cad or 250 $ usd 9 gig ddr 3 , 120 ssd , 500 hd new cooler master psu 550 watts , psu adapter , zalman cpu cooler for OC ( w3570 clock at 3.2 , 4 cores , 8 threats ) almost 1 /3 of the price , and I am able to OC to 4.ghz Merry Christmas
Wow that's really good! I have a z600, it originally came with 16gb ram, one e5630 and ran on integrated graphics. Then it got upgraded to 32gb ram, 2x x5675 and an old amd radeon 6950. Don't use it for games, mainly school work and photoshop. Runs great
Just got my self a used HP Z600 Workstation, 2x Xeon X5675, thats 12 cores total. 1TB HDD ( will add SSD for boot) 48 GB DD3 RAM NVIDIA QUADRO 600 screen card. It's refurbished by a company. 600$ including postage.
Nice computer! Have you been looking at auction hauls? I really loved the 91 desktop one. I’ve watched it like 10 times already lol. Also I would love to buy a cheap machine off you for like 20$ on eBay.
Is your monitor connect via HDMI and does it have an audio out port? If so I'd suggest you try it. Unless the audio card you suggested has some advanced processing features. According to the selection menu for mine, it supports up to 7.1 surround sound, but I can't try it since I only have stereo speakers and head phones so I use it in stereo mode. My GPU is a 750 ti.
Hello i find these video very useful. Thx. I am a video editor and am planing to upgraded my hp z600 i see these setup and it looks good. I will appreciate if you take the time to answer about 2 things.1 How safe are the 3.0 usb ports that you add? I had problems in the past with a Z800 they corrupt an external hdd and burned a card rider (i mean not that brand but something similar)(for me the safety of my files is very important ).2 Can you pls test a multi track editing in premiere at last 3 cameras with a frame rate of 50fps in hd and if you test it in 4k how it works. Thx again and keep on your work.
i own a z600 and im gonna add 2 xeon x5670 cpus to it in combination with 16gb ram and a 1060 6 gb card and this should out perform my i5 4690k at 4.5 ghz
I just bought the same cpus that were purchased in this video. The cpus do work ,but when i put in both of them in the z600 they computer turned on as in the fans are spinning, but the computer did not wanna get into bios.
both cpus are same? and ram sticks are same (side by side)? how to psu own fans (2x) ? if someone of theres fans are unconnect or broke > "start loop" without bios. if it not psu fans, do you have any usb-drive connect? usb-drives must be unplug when you start this hp z600 (you can restart without problems, but "cold start" usb-drives must be unplug.)
don't know if you get that level of improvement... I know Dual Xeons will be monster performer for any multi threaded task... but Premiere happens to rely much in single threaded performance for many tasks, so at the end of the day, i don't know if an old X79 platform with something like a i7 4930k and up to 32gb of DDR3 1866 would have suite you better, and will bring at least 2 SATA3 ports for 1 SSD + 1 HDD, and allowance for 4 SATAII ports to be used in RAID10 config, in order to have a total of 6 HDD in a best way possible storage config. That without trading off some stuff servers tend to make (like extremely crappy audio or capacitors for PCI-E connector or being forced to use PCI Legacy Audio card instead of a newer PCI-e) Also, upgrading to a Ryzen system using an entry level R5 1400x or even the mid range R5 1600 will bring your system to DDR4 and newer stuff, including a more than nice upgrade path with up to Ryzen 2 CPUs. That ALL being said, i would love to have a PC like yours, i'm stuck with my Fx8350 which is an ok CPU but its reaching a point were i feel that i might need to upgrade in a year or two, since i mostly do Photography and the performace since at the range of "average" at best
Did you run into any issues getting the 1070/1060 to work with the non-UEFI Z600? I read somewhere that they require UEFI instead of legacy BIOS, and everything I've seen says that the Z*00 workstations are BIOS only, only the Z*20 and up have UEFI.
The problem with these old workstations is I don't believe the HP BIOS allows overclocking, and that is where you get the most out of these CPUs. Really, an X5650 should be able to hit about 1000 in Cinebench with an OC. That pc should be pulling nearly 2K in Cinebench.
Why could you not get audio driver from Nvidia. My set up is exactly the same and the hd audio driver comes with the Graphics card driver from Nvidia driver downloads. These 2 cpu workstations are fantastic value for money teamed with a gpu.
hello I like your videos I have an hp z600 and I could not make it work with 2 x5650 cpu if you could help me tell me how you installed 2 x5675 to your pc thanks greetings
Hi there! Great video thanks! I have a z600 machine with the listed spects below, and I have six 32" 1080 monitors hooked up (I'll likely expand it to 8), my gpu utilization is going up quite a bit in the 80% and more quite often and I was wondering if you think the gtx1060 card would do a better job (or if I should add some fans to keep my existing gpu's cooler, or a better gpu card I'm open to recommendations. Thanks again! Dual Hexa Core Intel Xeon X5675 MaxTurbo 3.46GHz Processors 12 threads 48GB Of Fast DD3 PC10600R ECC ram 2x NVIDIA Quadro NVS450 Graphics Cards (Each Card Supports 4 Monitors) 512GB 6GB/S Solid State Drive 2TB 6GB/S 64MB Cache HD's Windows 10 Professional
hi, i just got one of these, Z600 with dual X5660 and the person says it's 24 core. shows 24 cores in the properties. is it a true 24 core? also, i wish to use this for audio production running a DAW with soft synths. how do you think it will perform? what's the best mid price audio card for it for monitoring. it's running Win 7 Pro at the moment which shows 24 cores. would Win 10 be better and which version will recognise all the cores? thanks.
Ok... I have a question. How and where did you mount the SSD Drive in the system? FYI, I'm building one for myself right now. Z600 ordered two x5675 , msi gaming X RX 470 8gb , 48 GB ECC registered RAM ... Want to get the SSD and a SATA 3 card but don't know where in the system to mount the SSD.
Thank you For this great review, I want to ask your question, do all processors work together? Is this device better than a device with a i5 6th processor? I want to buy a device HP Z600 Intel Core Xeon X5650 2.6GHZ Is this a better option than i5 6th?
Hello, I see you have the wisdom of IT. I also have an HP workstation. I've been thinking of posting a video. I have the Z800 with dual X5667 xeons, 48 gigs rams and an Asus Strix 1070. I also have 6 TB HDD and a 320 sdd. I used old drives and a few others parts I had laying around. I paid 300 bucks for mine from a surplus store. would you be intrested in coming to see my set up and help me make a video?
Please edit in 4k I am considering this build myself to edit 4k on a budget and I'm very interested it and seeing the results. If you want I could send you a 4K file that I shot on my g85 Lumix and see what happens. I could then even send an iPhone video shot at 4K at 60 frames a second and we could then see the results. Maybe even drop it in a drop box or something for you.
Just a quick question. As i need a editing only machine for resolve. Can i use 2 gpu in this machine like a 2 x 1070 in sli for the cuda. If i stick a sata 3 card in are the pci e slots ok? As i would go all 5 ssd os program scratch disk render drive file drive and handbreak output drive. After 4 months are you still happy with it?
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I would of used a AMD 480 or 560 as its cheaper and two 560s equals a brand new gtx 1060 with 8gb of total ram in sli
Hi there! Guess what? Now its $205 with the 2x X5675's!! Same seller!
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Very nice, I wish we had such good prices for these workstations in Australia. The Small Form Factor machines are easy to find, but not the larger workstations or servers.
Yeah, it's odd how anything larger than a SFF is imposible to find in Aus.
Businesses seem to be holding on to these models longer and longer in Australia.
Shame, since the easy answer would be to get a friend in the US. however, the shipping costs to down under is not cheap if you want to send anything faster than 30 days
Yup, I hear similar sentiments all the time from viewers outside the U.S. It's unfortunate that computers are so expensive in other countries.
Here in Eastern Europe these brand PCs and parts are cheap as chips - at least some 30% cheaper than in USA (comparing to prices of components mentioned in this video).
I went a higher budget route. My goal was a great pc at $2,000 budget. My rig consists of dual e5 2667 v2's on an Asus Z9PA-D8 motherboard, 48 gigs of samsung ddr3 1600 ram, a sandisk ssd and a gtx 1080 gpu. Issues came up, because this was an older mobo that included i needed to buy a special sound card (MIO 892) and had to buy a generic usb 3 card. The other issue with this board, was the PCIE layout. All in all, a pretty nice build.
I get 16 cores, 32 threads at base 3.3 ghz max 4.0 ghz on one core. All 32 threads running i run at 3.6 ghz. After the x5600's Intel locked the multiplier and no more oc'ing. However, for certain higher end work, my cpu's are better as they support such items as AVX. The 48 gb of samsung ddr3 1600 was also server memory - the motherboard supports ecc, and its cheap, only $180 for the 48 gigs. My passmark score is 91% percentile at 4855 including > 23,000 on the CPU. My Cinebench R15 score is over 2500. When i priced out a threadripper build it ran well over $3,500 so the savings were significant.
Jeffrey Levin I got a sff build for $120 with shipping included. It came with a i5 3570, 12gb of ram (supposed to be 16 but oh well ) 1tb blue wd drive. I got a free old dell case tax form so I switched into that. Got a power supply adapter from moddyi, a cx450m, and I gtx 1060 6gb in the box from eBay for $120 plus $10 shipping. Was about $280 total, 12gb of ram nearly cost $120 for ddr4 so pretty damn good deal
Cool Video - I use the bigger brother the Z800 with 2 X5690 Xeons and 48GB of RAM. I dropped in a GTX1080 and it is my main rig that I use every day. Really a cool machine with incredible build quality for a really low price second hand
thanks to this video I'm now the proud owner of a Z820 from the same place you got yours on ebay. The shipping was brutal but still an enormous amount saved...I can't thank you enough!!
How's yours? The computers did have free shipping but now the prices were lowered and the shipping was added.
I received a Z600 from the same company (for just under $200 USD delivered) Friday 12/28 with 2 5650's, 24 GB's of ram and no hard drives. My 120 GB SSD and 1 TB HDD arrive 1/2/19. I have the 6-8 pin adapter already and I've ordered the sound card (for better sound only) as well as the 3.0 card from the links above. I have a new 1060 6GB that will be installed on hand.
FYI, this will be my first ever attempt at a "build".
Wow you really out did yourself on that intro! Keep up the awesome content man!
I used to daily a HP Z800 until just a few days ago of writing this comment. My old Z800 had dual X5660, 176 GB PC3-8500R memory, a GTX 1080 8GB, 500GB+2TB Samsung 860 EVO SSDs, and a WD 14 TB HDD. It ran fine and well, though some games would trigger the PSU overload. Mostly GTA V, but Just Cause 3 would also trigger it. Though I got a fairly massive upgrade in the form of a Lenovo P920 ThinkStation. I carried over my drives and GPU, but I upgraded the CPUs to dual Xeon Gold 6144 and the RAM to 256 GB DDR4. Lets just say, this new system is a whole lot faster than the old Westmere Z800.
Not quite sure why it shut off, the system pulled 600w when I ran cinebench and furmark at the same time, 250w under the maximum. Maybe it was a sudden spike in power usage instead of an overload. I've tried switching PSUs, removing extra add-in cards, and even downclocking the GPU, all that did nothing.
Very cool. I've been using an old Z400 with a modded power supply upgrade for video editing and some light gaming. Now I'm weighing the costs of moving up to a Z420 or 440. Never thought I'd find so much performance value in an old pre-built workstation. Nice build here too.
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I purchased one of these systems with 16 cores and 32 threads, it comes with 96 GB of ram 250 gb SSD and a couple of 1tb SAS HDD's plus Quaddro 4000 GPU. They are a great value considering what they cost new. I plan to upgrade my CPU's to two 12 core units giving me 24 cores and 48 threads. Love the price of Xeon CPU's in the used market. One can build a beast of a PC workstation for a fraction of the cost to go new.
Is there an 8 or 12 core compatible CPU for Z600 or are you talking about another workstastion system?
You probably need to enable the built in audio in bios. At least on HP Z400's it disables the built in audio if you have a graphics card with HDMI audio support installed to the system.
Pasi123 yas had this prob too
huh, well I have never seen that before. It turns out the audio in the BIOS was disabled. Still going to stick with the Sound Blaster though, I have been trying to put that card to good use.
AA Computers and Technology About 4 years ago I bought an Asus Xonar DGX 5.1 because I thought the built in sound card died. Around 2015-2016 I found out it was disabled in the bios :D
My dad's HP XW6600 (Z600 predecessor) also does that, but for some reason it doesn't have any option to enable it again.
AA Computers and Technology Same thing happened to me. I put a card in machine and I got an error the sound didn’t work.. It took like a month for me to figure out and when I changed the settings in the BIOS it said “Repairing Windows” or something so I changed it back. I later did it again it booted than I downloaded the driver again
AA Computers and Technology Same thing happened to me. I put a card in machine and I got an error the sound didn’t work.. It took like a month for me to figure out and when I changed the settings in the BIOS it said “Repairing Windows” or something so I changed it back. I later did it again it booted than I downloaded the driver again
The quality of your videos has stepped up quite a lot in the past few months
TechYesCity would love this
And another thing that has also pleasantly surprised me because I have a single 6-core X5670 on my Dell T3500 is that how even a single X5670 is still good enough even though the CPU is like flipping a decade old now.
I have a Dell Precision T5500 with a Xeon X5680. It is running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit v1709.
OK, I get it. Intel still makes Xeon CPU's. The Dell Precision T5500 has LGA 1366. I will be uploading the review tomorrow. Next Week, I will be making a live stream to celebrate Windows 10, becoming 3 years old.
I used to have an 8350, I upgraded to an intel 8086 K, never been happier...
Much agree with you i got the HP Z600 back in 2015 With 2 x Xeon X5650, 24 GB ECC ram, 2 x Intel 160G SSD's, Quadro 4000 GPU for $795AUD. I replaced GPU for Gigabyte 1060 that cost me 298AUD and added a USB 3.1 Gen 2 Card $40AUD that gave me 5 x faster transfer, Work smoothly in the future i probably will do this again with HP620 or HP640. Great Video Thanks.
Even today this workstation is able to cope with 99% of games !
I have a similar combination, HP Z600, GTX1060, 2 CPU(8 cors) and 48 GB RAM !
You can buy a Z600, dual CPU with less than 200 £ !
My recommendation is HPZ800/Z820 !
The only drawback is SSD vs M.2 in modern computers !
I got mine for 170€ a while ago. Using it remotely as hypervisor and for scripting. I just love the build quality.
Nice video, thanks. I also got a z600 as a Linux workstation, for photo editing and getting into video editing. I got two X5675 6-Core 3.06GHz and 48GB of ECC buffered RAM dirt cheap on eBay, and put an M.2 NVMe disk on a PCIe riser card in it. The performance is just astonishing, especially for the price. A really great solution for a budget workstation today.
But it takes some care to get expansions for the system. There are two revisions of the motherboard, and the first one can not run the X5675 CPU's fully (no AES extensions, which I need, for one) or use ECC buffered RAM. Unfortunately the machine I picked up had the first revision motherboard, so I got a replacement motherboard on eBay and sold off the original motherboard. That raised the price a bit, but well worth it. Especially since ECC buffered RAM is a lot cheaper than unbuffered ECC.
Thanks again, really cool to see!
Would you please provide some more info on your M.2 NVMe drive and PCIe riser card that works in your z600? I want to make sure I get parts that will work in my z600. Thanks.
Any drive and riser which fits will work. I got a cheap riser on eBay with slots for two drives (one PCIe and one SATA) and one Kingston A1000 M.2 NVMe240GB drive for the PCIe slot on the card. It gives me around 1000 MB/s.
However, the z600 can not boot from the NVMe drive, so I boot from another SSD and use the NVMe drive for data I work with, and for any games I run on the machine.
Thanks.
thx to info! i just build hp z600 > ua-cam.com/video/nt9NRfh_OdI/v-deo.html
now i know this "no boot nvme" and i think i go normal ssd now
Probably the best video you've ever made! Great stuff :)
Wow. Thats a really impressive system, especially when considering performance to the price. I guess the only issue with your computer is that there is no real upgrade path for what you have now. Your basically maxed out for what that motherboard provides. But really, I don't think your gonna be low on performance to warrant an upgrade anytime soon, so that is almost a non issue, but if I were you I would've stuck with the XPS. Anywho, nonetheless great build and I hope you can get to creating great things in the future with that system!
Found a HP Z800 with dual X5660s and I currently have it upgraded to 20gb of ram with my GTX 970 in it, using it as my main rig for now and its amazing for the most part. Some stutter here and there in some games, but its pretty good. Especially since I picked it up for $50!
There are sandy bridge 3GHz, 8 core, 16 thread xeon workstation for similar prices on ebay.
I may consider buying one of these workstations and upgrading it to see what it can do
About 3 years later, guess what I bought ? A Z600 'barebones' no RAM or HDDs for £51. I'll fit X5675s too over the X5670s already fitted. Yes, it's quick with 2 WD Velociraptors in striped RAiD configuration. Crystal Disk says 370 MB/sec but it'll work with an NVMe SSD it seems. A fabulous buy.
Awesome, just finished my Z600 build, Dual XEON X5650 2.66GHZ, 24GB RAM, GTX 1660S . Was a bit worried about the power consumption too but the PSU can make it. The graphic card barely fits in. The case could not be a mm thinner.
I was damn lucky with 120 USD for my 3GB 1060 which chugs along nicely but 180 bucks isn't by any means a bad price either.
Epic Intro by the way too.
i'm using Intel Xeon W3690 ( 6 Core ) with GTX 1070TI.
AMAZING PERFORMANCE and very Cheap build ( ofc without GPU )
Is it also z600? I got MSI GTX 1070 that requires 6pin and 8pin connectors, I used adapter for the 8 pin from sata, but the game still shutdown like in the video
How did you get it to work?
thanks for this video! as a 3ds max user this machine will render pretty fast without spend a lot of money
I have a HP Z600 and Windows 7 and Windows 10 both found the onboard audio without any issue. Identified as just "HD Audio Device"
This video inspired me! Here's my Z600 Build I've just put together for a total of $306
Z600
2 x Xeon X5667 ( $50 more and these can be swapped for X5675's for an additional 4 Cores)
48GB RAM
240GB SSD
EVGA GTX 1060
PCIe to SATA 3 Card
SoundBlaster X-Fi Sound Card
One heck of a rig for $300!
Aaron Duell Great value! May I ask how’s the gaming performance for a cpu that’s made in 2010?
@@Emilioh888 I'll let you know. The remaining parts are coming in the next couple of days!
Aaron Duell thanks!
Built something similar but bought my base machine from a local recycler for $100.
Got an older Quadro card with 4.5 gb of RAM. And tossed in some more ram. Running SATA II drives in raid to boost speed a tad. I am into the system for $350.
Cool little system. An X-58 motherboard would go great with that CPU.
I actually just started looking into these Z series workstations for builds. I have 3 X58 socket Xeon's I haven't been able to use do to motherboards being to costly. This is a good option for someone looking to build a entry level gaming machine or for someone who does more editing and light gaming. I went for the Z400 motherboard for $40 on eBay and the PSU was $15, but the PSU does not fit a standard aftermarket case so I think I will have to buy an adapter for $15. Plus you can find 4 core 8 thread CPU's for $7 bucks like the W3550 and 6 core 12 thread CPU's like the W3670 or X5660 for under $50 bucks. The only thing holding these X58 platform builds back from being a good used option was the price of the boards, so if I can get these Z400 boards to work I will have found a good used budget option. Thanks for the video.
Nice vid dude, i just got myself an hp z800 and i love it! Dual Xeons, 96gb ram and 6tb of hdds 🤤🤤🤤
Are the fans loud?
Vape Nation
The only thing I would say about the hardware choices is the sound card. Being a media editor, I don't know why you would bother. If you have USB 3.0 or 2.0 just get a two channel USB audio interface. There are loads of these new and otherwise on eBay and other places. There are also numerous USB connected mixers out there which can do the job and allow easy connection of a microphone for A/V purposes. Sound cards just can't match the features and quality of these. I got a Lexicon two channel interface for about $40 new and it came with DAW software.
Some sound cards don't support 7.1 surround sound. I use this as a HTPC and the dolby 7.1 surround sound is a must. The small USB ones do not support dolby surround.
Thank you daddy AA.
The price of those workstations used to be cheaper until people on UA-cam started making videos of them. I still want to buy one though.
I'll sell you one of mine for 250$ (serious)
You can try to tighten the RAM timings and opt for Dual or Triple Channel in the BIOS, if that motherboard supports these functions. This will pull out more performance out of your RAM.
And just like that We have our gaming Rig ready...
When my dad's work bought these, they were 800 euros out of the box. And now, 1 of them broke so I got it home. I diagnosed it and it's probably the PSU's fault, because it powers on and off randomly.
I did a very similar build, but with prices now, for just under $400, its got 2 X5650s and a 240gb ssd paired with a 4tb hard drive, and to make it NVENC compatible and a pretty good gaming machine, an MSI 1660, but, as the cheap, impatient fuck I am, I had just soldered on a +2 pin connector from some spare modular psu cables and wrapped it all up with electrical tape.
@aa computers i use this exact pc for a proxmox node with 48gb of ram :) they are a beast of a old pc
Nice idea, looks interesting. CB score very high!
one of your best vids by far!
Nice! Main PC is currently a Z600, 40Gb RAM, GTX 1060 and dual 5675s :)
Nice, but 24gb RAM is the maximum this motherboard can support.
Yayyy a new upload!! Where were ya man? ;)
Busy making this video :p (and busy with my day job)
Go on eBay to find good used cpu and other parts with the exception of motherboard that is exactly what I'm doing with xeon processor u could build a good certify work station
Planning on building a cheap gaming pc with leftover parts including an old p6x58d-e motherboard that my cousin wasnt using, and then buying a xeon x5675 and overclocking to hopefully around 4.4ghz, then pairing it with a 1070, mainly going to be used for 1080-60 gaming at ultra. Idk for some reason i really love this old platform, i already have a r7 1700 at 4ghz but i wanted another cheap system that i can tinker with and maybe sell on down the line.
@AA Computers and Technology : Look for an LSI 9208-8i or 9211-8i flashed to "IT" mode. I have both, and both work in my Z800 and Z820, so there shouldn't be any reason it wouldn't work in your Z600.
As technology improves render time is constant
I managed to get a sata iii card working but it behaved oddly, giving good read speed but very low write, that combined with the fact it takes a bit longer when booting with the adaptor intially, and showing in windows as removable media, I think I have given up on the idea of sata ii for this machine and getting close to 300MBps read and write. I added a NMVE SSD via adapter, usb 3.0 ports, a gtx 1060 6gb.. and I went for the x5675 which seem to be the last known working without fail for this machine as on lower TDP.. but I'm very curious, why couldn't you get x5690 working? I've seen people have sucess with just one x5690 CPU in both z400 and z600, but nowhere can I find anybody who has actually got two of them working in the z600.. great video!
For editing you should must use a gtx serie 7 ..like gtx 780... gtx serie 9 and 10 have the cuda cores blocked... you can use 2 video card.. a nvidia and a amd.. for gaming and render at the same time
I have 3 HP Z400's and the slowest Xeon is the X5670, fastest is the 3.6 ghz X5687 i think. I also have a dual Xeon Asus motherboard and X5675's on it. Cinebench is 1485. My last build is a X99 i7 5820K build @ 4.3 and the Cinebench is 1272. I have used my GTX 1070 in every one of them for comparison and overall the X99 system is a little faster than the dual Xeon X5675's in games but only because it's overclocked. BTW all 3 of my HP machines and the Asus Dual have usb 3 cards with sata 6 included. Going into 2019 all i can say is.....I feel no loss from systems pushing 10 years old and even less from my 5 year old X99 build. I used to build with pre ordered parts before things came out but that was 2001 thru Sandy Bridge. Having spent over 40,000 dollars on Newegg over the years building and selling pc's to locals back in the first Athlon thru around Core 2 Quad release days i truly understand the meaning of future proof and these old Xeons are as close as it gets. Thank God for accessory boards that bring things close to current spec. Also, i'd bet money that iobit's driver booster free version will load those onboard drivers and bring it up to completely updated in one try. I've used it with no complaints for 4 or 5 years now. AND IT'S FREE. Try it and delete it and before long you will reinstall it just like i did.
The HP Z600 onboard audio is a regular realtek HD audio sound driver. make sure you go to the bios because there a A LOT of options that could possibly hold your computer back. And also, did you use the SAS controller or the Sata controller? and where there any SAS Drives in the computer when you bought it?
I got a rev 1 z600 2 Xeon 5650s 24gb ram 250 SSD and 4TB for storage its the best pc ive upgraded.... Cost me £85 stock and spent around £200 just need a new graphics card in it.... 👌
the best building.
I went for a HP z400 . Cost me 210 $ in total for the tower + RX 580 for 150$ =360$ cad or 250 $ usd
9 gig ddr 3 ,
120 ssd , 500 hd
new cooler master psu 550 watts ,
psu adapter ,
zalman cpu cooler for OC ( w3570 clock at 3.2 , 4 cores , 8 threats )
almost 1 /3 of the price , and I am able to OC to 4.ghz
Merry Christmas
Well in my country its hard to find one of that workstations, if i have the chance to buy one ill do it even not having the chance to upgrade cpus
Wow that's really good!
I have a z600, it originally came with 16gb ram, one e5630 and ran on integrated graphics.
Then it got upgraded to 32gb ram, 2x x5675 and an old amd radeon 6950. Don't use it for games, mainly school work and photoshop. Runs great
Good stuff
That thing must be loud and hot!
yes it is, if you use this "bmw" case and hp own fans
Just got my self a used HP Z600 Workstation,
2x Xeon X5675, thats 12 cores total.
1TB HDD ( will add SSD for boot)
48 GB DD3 RAM
NVIDIA QUADRO 600 screen card.
It's refurbished by a company.
600$ including postage.
Nice computer! Have you been looking at auction hauls? I really loved the 91 desktop one. I’ve watched it like 10 times already lol. Also I would love to buy a cheap machine off you for like 20$ on eBay.
where are the leds? you could improve your performance with a single led strip.
Nice video, and I actually found the intro pretty funny, because I used the same music for my school project ;-)
What Title is it, at least for the Intro.
The single core performance of those Xeons is fine. I use one in my pc.
Is your monitor connect via HDMI and does it have an audio out port? If so I'd suggest you try it. Unless the audio card you suggested has some advanced processing features. According to the selection menu for mine, it supports up to 7.1 surround sound, but I can't try it since I only have stereo speakers and head phones so I use it in stereo mode. My GPU is a 750 ti.
I recently acquired a similar server for free but with 32gb of RAM, currently running opensuse 15 leap
Hello i find these video very useful. Thx. I am a video editor and am planing to upgraded my hp z600 i see these setup and it looks good. I will appreciate if you take the time to answer about 2 things.1 How safe are the 3.0 usb ports that you add? I had problems in the past with a Z800 they corrupt an external hdd and burned a card rider (i mean not that brand but something similar)(for me the safety of my files is very important ).2 Can you pls test a multi track editing in premiere at last 3 cameras with a frame rate of 50fps in hd and if you test it in 4k how it works. Thx again and keep on your work.
"Alright we get it, your tower vapes" :P
Awesome find and build man. I wonder if I can find one Australia.
Check eBay.
i own a z600 and im gonna add 2 xeon x5670 cpus to it in combination with 16gb ram and a 1060 6 gb card and this should out perform my i5 4690k at 4.5 ghz
I just bought the same cpus that were purchased in this video. The cpus do work ,but when i put in both of them in the z600 they computer turned on as in the fans are spinning, but the computer did not wanna get into bios.
both cpus are same? and ram sticks are same (side by side)?
how to psu own fans (2x) ? if someone of theres fans are unconnect or broke > "start loop" without bios.
if it not psu fans, do you have any usb-drive connect? usb-drives must be unplug when you start this hp z600
(you can restart without problems, but "cold start" usb-drives must be unplug.)
don't know if you get that level of improvement...
I know Dual Xeons will be monster performer for any multi threaded task... but Premiere happens to rely much in single threaded performance for many tasks, so at the end of the day, i don't know if an old X79 platform with something like a i7 4930k and up to 32gb of DDR3 1866 would have suite you better, and will bring at least 2 SATA3 ports for 1 SSD + 1 HDD, and allowance for 4 SATAII ports to be used in RAID10 config, in order to have a total of 6 HDD in a best way possible storage config.
That without trading off some stuff servers tend to make (like extremely crappy audio or capacitors for PCI-E connector or being forced to use PCI Legacy Audio card instead of a newer PCI-e)
Also, upgrading to a Ryzen system using an entry level R5 1400x or even the mid range R5 1600 will bring your system to DDR4 and newer stuff, including a more than nice upgrade path with up to Ryzen 2 CPUs.
That ALL being said, i would love to have a PC like yours, i'm stuck with my Fx8350 which is an ok CPU but its reaching a point were i feel that i might need to upgrade in a year or two, since i mostly do Photography and the performace since at the range of "average" at best
Picking up 2 z600's with 2x x5650s each for 220$ total tomorrow!
What should I do to get them ready? Do the PSU's have pcie connectors for cards?
Would a Nitro+ RX 580 8gb work with the power rails that this thing has?
Did you run into any issues getting the 1070/1060 to work with the non-UEFI Z600? I read somewhere that they require UEFI instead of legacy BIOS, and everything I've seen says that the Z*00 workstations are BIOS only, only the Z*20 and up have UEFI.
The problem with these old workstations is I don't believe the HP BIOS allows overclocking, and that is where you get the most out of these CPUs. Really, an X5650 should be able to hit about 1000 in Cinebench with an OC. That pc should be pulling nearly 2K in Cinebench.
Can you remove the processor and overclock it on another motherboard and then put it back on again? is it possible to do that?
if you have version 2 motherboard. you can jump up to 96gb of ram.
Why could you not get audio driver from Nvidia.
My set up is exactly the same and the hd audio driver comes with the Graphics card driver from Nvidia driver downloads.
These 2 cpu workstations are fantastic value for money teamed with a gpu.
I'm a year late,
But I just purchased a z600 with just one 5672 for $25, Got two 5675 off Ebay for $52
And uh...
Wow. Budget editing
Are you building the same pc he’s building in the video?
Great vape intro bro 👍👌
hello I like your videos I have an hp z600 and I could not make it work with 2 x5650 cpu if you could help me tell me how you installed 2 x5675 to your pc thanks greetings
Hi there! Great video thanks! I have a z600 machine with the listed spects below, and I have six 32" 1080 monitors hooked up (I'll likely expand it to 8), my gpu utilization is going up quite a bit in the 80% and more quite often and I was wondering if you think the gtx1060 card would do a better job (or if I should add some fans to keep my existing gpu's cooler, or a better gpu card I'm open to recommendations. Thanks again!
Dual Hexa Core Intel Xeon X5675 MaxTurbo 3.46GHz Processors 12 threads
48GB Of Fast DD3 PC10600R ECC ram
2x NVIDIA Quadro NVS450 Graphics Cards (Each Card Supports 4 Monitors)
512GB 6GB/S Solid State Drive
2TB 6GB/S 64MB Cache HD's
Windows 10 Professional
Wow great job
hi, i just got one of these, Z600 with dual X5660 and the person says it's 24 core. shows 24 cores in the properties. is it a true 24 core?
also, i wish to use this for audio production running a DAW with soft synths. how do you think it will perform? what's the best mid price audio card for it for monitoring.
it's running Win 7 Pro at the moment which shows 24 cores. would Win 10 be better and which version will recognise all the cores?
thanks.
500ish watts WILL NEVER HAPPEN so honestly This is a great deal for any budget video editor.
I have an HP XW8600 is the HP Z600 and HP Z800 just newer version with more updated motherboards or what???
Ok... I have a question. How and where did you mount the SSD Drive in the system? FYI, I'm building one for myself right now. Z600 ordered two x5675 , msi gaming X RX 470 8gb , 48 GB ECC registered RAM ... Want to get the SSD and a SATA 3 card but don't know where in the system to mount the SSD.
just use industrial strength Velcro and put it in an open space inside the case.
@@AAComputersandTechnology well... Lol thought it would be more complicated than that... Lol thanks.
Thank you For this great review, I want to ask your question, do all processors work together?
Is this device better than a device with a i5 6th processor?
I want to buy a device HP Z600 Intel Core Xeon X5650 2.6GHZ Is this a better option than i5 6th?
I am confused between these two options
Z200 Core i5th or Z600 Intel Core Xeon X5650 2.6GHZ
Cool video.
Hello, I see you have the wisdom of IT. I also have an HP workstation. I've been thinking of posting a video. I have the Z800 with dual X5667 xeons, 48 gigs rams and an Asus Strix 1070. I also have 6 TB HDD and a 320 sdd. I used old drives and a few others parts I had laying around. I paid 300 bucks for mine from a surplus store. would you be intrested in coming to see my set up and help me make a video?
Sell one to me if you are okay to do
Hey AA Computers and Technology, can you a school laptop build video using a Dell Latitude E6420 or E6430.
I have some bad typing. Can you do a video of making a school laptop using a Dell Latitude E6420 or E6430.
I understood what you meant, I have done a school build with an E6410 in the past which is a similar albiet older machine.
you get audio drives from hp website. i own a hp z800 with rx 580 8gb
Please edit in 4k I am considering this build myself to edit 4k on a budget and I'm very interested it and seeing the results. If you want I could send you a 4K file that I shot on my g85 Lumix and see what happens. I could then even send an iPhone video shot at 4K at 60 frames a second and we could then see the results. Maybe even drop it in a drop box or something for you.
Pretty cool, can you use a ps3 controller on a system like this?
Plz i'm in a bit of problem here....can u plz tell me can I use only one processor in Z600 or 2 different processors?
Just a quick question. As i need a editing only machine for resolve. Can i use 2 gpu in this machine like a 2 x 1070 in sli for the cuda. If i stick a sata 3 card in are the pci e slots ok? As i would go all 5 ssd os program scratch disk render drive file drive and handbreak output drive. After 4 months are you still happy with it?
Wow this needs more views, maybe try adding text to thumbnails
E5 xeon workstations are a bit better in terms of value.
care to elaborate on which workstation in particular?
@@DJSunLess the slightly newer z620 and z820
These newer systems have more computing horsepower but in used PC market it is much much more expensive giving very poor cost to performance ratio.