Throwing $85 Worth of Upgrades at an Ancient MacBook: Apple MacBook A1181 Complete Upgrade Guide
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Today I am going to walk you though the process of upgrading this 2007 MacBook A1181. This upgrade guide will show you how to replace your Mac's RAM, hard drive, and battery. It will also show you the steps you will need to take make this thing run like new again by blowing out the over decade old dust and replacing the thermal paste. Following all of this, I will run some tests to see what kind of difference the upgrades actually made.
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My 2008 does absolutely everything any ordinary user needs today with Linux mint, but the screen leaves a lot to be desired in 2010. I should really make a video. I have completely restored one--but in fairness, it took a combination of three messed up donors to turn into one mint condition example. It was a good learning process. I took it on vacation with me to Vietnam and to Europe (a total of 10 weeks) so I wouldn't need to take my 2015 Retina MacBook Pro, and it was exactly what I needed--since I only really needed a place to dump and organise photos, use internet, do word processing, watch some basic media. I should do a video on it.
It do be 2010 tho😳😳
I believe that if you have a another motherboard it possible to swap in a new board then sell the old board
I did this exact thing with my 2009 model and it runs amazingly well. I think the ssd was the main thing that helped it.
Why do you think the ssd helped the most?
@@willblundell2250 old slow 5400rpm drives are the biggest bottleneck IMO (depending on pc but it’s a safe bet) and ram upgrades help but not as noticeable
Did you clone your existing HDD onto the SSD or opt for a fresh install of OS X?
@@astoraan6071 fresh install so that it was a clean a restart as I could get
@@captainchuppachup Cool. Are you running El Capitan? Or did you manage to get a newer OS working it seems from what I've read that 10.11 is the "official" limit for this machine.
13:12 The firmware level performance throttle on an empty battery is a key takeaway here. Great video thank you!
Found one of these abandoned on the side of my apartment, someone was unable to get iOS installed and left it there. Been running Linux Mint Cinnamon on it since then.
And dude... You don't have a single spudger for those fragile connectors!? I was cringing watching you pull them out by the wire with tweezers =/
Pro tip: The only thing you should be using to remove thermal paste is a coffee filter as they do not leave fibers behind. Both of the options you gave will leave fibers behind.
I was still using one of these for school back in 2017
Still using my 2007 macbook!
Do you use Linux on it?
I have an A1181 from 2007. It won't operate without the plug. Don't know if it's the battery or the plug which always had a problem making a good tight connection. I was going to replace both but it has another problem with volume which gradually decreased in the 4 or 5 yrs that I did use it. It's been sitting since maybe 2003. Now that I have come across this video I have a renewed interest in the old Mac and may try to bring new life to it. ....Thanks for the information on how to do this.... ....
at least it saves it from ending up in the landfill
I personally bought a lot of 2 A1181 MacBooks, one black 2008, and one white 2009, for US$45. Only the black one ended up being usable, but it has 4GB RAM, has the newer wifi card from the 2009, and also has a 1TB SSD which was handed down from my 2012 MacBook Pro. Runs really well, even using the OS X Mountain Lion patch.
thanks for making this video and bringing a lot of A1181 diehards together! You are a nudge to get my thermal paste replaced and my mind is absolutely blown in regards to throttling even while the MacBook is plugged in. Did you manually create the benchmark graph or is there a link to a benchmark suite you specifically ran? I’d like to run the same exact suite so i have a direct comparison to yr #s
Thanks so much for this! Great vid. Something so satisfying about resurrecting an old mac.
I have the exact same model of this macbook, the A1181, and for some reason even though I have the exact same ram kit, my MacBook refuses to boot at all with 4GB installed, but is completely fine when 3GB is installed... Not sure what may be causing this, but it is somewhat annoying that mine seems to be incompatible with 4GB... Anyways, great video! Keep up the awesome work!
3GB is a bit of a hack. by design, this model is only supposed to support 2GB. I don’t remember the details, but it will recognize 3GB if you put 4GB in. they say it works better if you put 2x2GB - I’ve been using 1+2GB for years and never did any benchmarks to know what the difference is (if any)
You purchased the wrong RAM even though it is DDR2 the speed must be the same as the original RAM. It will recognize 1 stick because you're using 1 original ram and the system will down the speed to match original ram
More of low budget upgrades and reviews bro. Cool Unique channel
Yay! It's back and I can watch it!
im so glad your back please continue entertaining us please
I currently have my 2007 A1181 running MacOS Mojave 10.14.6, it does lag a bit at times, but I enjoy nearly all the features of a modern MacBook for much less! I also enjoy using this laptop as it is quite a good conversation starter
Garrett Butterworth how ?
that sounds really impressive! what patcher are you using? and how reliable is the patcher?
Upgrade your system with an SSD. It'll run smoother then.
hi How did you manage to update to mojave? Mind is 10.7.1 and cant update from Lion!!!
@@karljokat I just got this laptop as a broken hand me down. Fix it as this video suggest. How can I install Lion on it. I'm not a apple person but I learned a lot. I can install any linux, but not any Mac OS. I tried patchers for Sierra and that doesn't work which is expected. Basically, how can I get any Mac OS on this MacBook. Lion would be fine.
Hey, keep on uploading vids bro! I really like lowbudget tech reviews and upgrades.
I'll try most of this. Thanks. First up, a place for the screws.
Finished the video. I enjoyed it! Though, the silence during the disassembly parts was a little odd. Also, thanks for comparing it to the Elitebook!
Ha! we meet again!
Yeah, i'm always torn on whether or not I should add music in. It's hard to find something that most viewers won't complain about.
@@AAComputersandTechnology ua-cam.com/video/6ilnbOqjdUA/v-deo.html try this lol
I have a June 2006 Macbook.
I think I may give it a new lease of life, although I gave it a RAM upgrade years ago, so just the SSD & battery.
In the battery bay on the side nearest the screen with all the screws there is actually only 4 screws you have to remove and you don’t need to take out the screws right next to the battery connector so it’s only like 9 screws instead of 18
At our school we still use the ones with the headphone jack on the side
I am going to be getting one of these just because i like the aesthetics and the fact that i can easily replace parts that break.
I like to tinker and id rather have something that is dirt cheap like these ancient macbooks but still from the time frame when apple was still synonymous with "build quality" and "innovation"..
I wouldnt be caught dead getting a new mac.. but these old ones, this model specifically.. with linux mint or something like that.. cannot go wrong.. i just need a word processor and something i can write code in easy.
good guide, but one constructive comment - i actually recommend NOT blowing out the fans before disconnecting them. When the fans are still wired into the machine, they are can introduce a lot of back emf into the fan driver, and damage it. Plus, you have to clean the part anyway - why risk blowing small unnoticed parts out of the machine outside when all you really want to blow out is the fans? I like to remove the fan entirely, blow it out at a nice 90psi or so, which can free up gummy fans sometimes too, particularly with some DeoxIT F5 sprayed in - then the chips, inductors, mosfets, whatever - get thoughly alcohol cleaned, or in some really bad cases, ultrasoniced and IPA bathed.
1:31 For a second, I thought this was a floppy disk)
I have a 2009 White Macbook and running on AC with battery removed (as it died long ago), and was wondering why it seemed that everything was running slower compared to before, even when downgrading to older Snow Leopard OS. Now I know... I guess battery is required.
I was blown away by this fact too. I thought (probably like you), having it plugged in gave it max power. To think i thought this for who knows how many years!
is there a way to get ac power to it without the magsafe charger? (i obtained black macbook a1181 with stone dead battery and no charger).
thank
I would love to be able to design a different motherboard that could work in an old MacBook
do one for the g4 and g3 white macbooks keep up this hackintosh on this macs i install catalina and windows 11 on these way better experience
I have been trying to replace an imac late 2012 27" 1440p display. And I do see why that most would rather buy a used or new display. Because, once you try to take the monitor from the glass. You will basically have the inside display opened. And I am still working to get the display off the glass (the display with a good glass is broken. The glass is fine). But I can't for my life perfectly clean any display.
11.51...ram grades are DDR2.This How To is exceptional; everything done is easy to understand. If you think you can do this servicing here, get this veteran Macbook.....but ask yourself first.....why do I need a new laptop?.. what whistles and bells will it have that I will never use?...can I do all that I need on a revamped laptop,e.g. this Macbook?
I have the same 2007 "White" Macbook and did the SSD-240/ RAM-3Gb upgrades but I ditched Mac OS. Instead I installed Kali Linux 2021 , and it´s way much better and faster than Lion OS it came with.
Unfortunately I still have a dead battery...
I bought my battery on eBay was amazing and works wonders bc mine was dead after awhile or was only plug powered
How do we install Linux do they have drawing apps :( is lion ok tho like what was wrong with it
Nice video. I learned something new today. Thanks
it shows more RAM, but as far as I know it is not able to use it, not even under windows due to chipset restrictions
Official & Actual Maximum RAM
Apple officially supports a maximum of 2 GB of RAM in the original (Core Duo), "Late 2006" and "Mid-2007" MacBook models.
However, third-parties have discovered that the "Late 2006" and "Mid-2007" MacBook models -- both of which are equipped with a Core 2 Duo processor -- will work with 3 GB or 4 GB of RAM. Due to chipset limitations -- the same limitations that apply to the "Late 2006" MacBook Pro systems -- these models can hold 4 GB of RAM but cannot fully utilize the memory beyond 3 GB due to the possibility of memory "overlap".
I got a black one for $50 on eBay, which happened to have a new[er] 3rd party battery. I grabbed an Inland 120GB SSD for $12, had some RAM laying around, and I was up and running. It wasn't very useful with MacOS, since I couldn't really install anything... I ended up putting Ubuntu on it, which was alright. I use it for writing when I'm trying to get into a slightly retro mindset. Plus I just like it.
get 10.11.6 on it: www.rmc-team.ch/osx-patcher
Parotgeek , mountain lion
Capitan sucks on this.
Huh you posted this a few hours before I found one at a garage sale for $5 mine has the x3100 graphics tho. Early 08
good thing is you won’t have to deal with a 32-bit EFI - what a pain in the ass!
great job, I will be upgrading my macbook soon.
Just what I´ve been looking for, nice video, congrats.
Woah im rebuilding my black 2006!
Excellent thank you for I'm confident now to upgrade my a1181.
Do you have any videos or steps on how to upload the mac os on the new hard drive?
Use a USB stick with MacOS
Ur upgrade guides are awesome bru keep it up!
not a Mac guy never was. but did like to see how apple likes to make it very hard for their customers not to work on an apple product. they want you to buy new.
Check out Louis Rossmann channel!
@@wesss9353 Rossmann is amazing, yeah I would say this old Macbook heaven to work on compared to the recent stuff, like Rossmann works on.
All I really need out of this mac is an iTunes machine for older iPods and my iPhones. I never sell my iPhones and use them as iPods too after I get a new phone lol. Do I need to upgrade or do you think for that single purpose they're ok as is?
seems tedious, but it can definitely bring some life back to any old laptop.
you want to start with a 2009 or newer mac and load it with open core legacy patcher give a good clean load monterey on it 8 or 16gb of ram 256gb or 512gb ssd and your good to go.
how would you know what i want?
is the max it can take 4gb Ram?
Update: yes it is
Edit 2: if you have the 2009 a1181 it can actually take 8gb
So what would be the best old school laptop computer that I can modernize instead of spending an arm and a leg on one of these newer models? And has a bright good screen because of my vision problems
ThinkPad T420/430 with the FHD mod.
Thank
My daily is a mid 2009 MacBook Pro with macOS Catalina Installed using dosdude1’s patcher
If you already hav this machine it is worth upgrading it in my opinion
9:43. I have a few older laptops at my disposal and I would like to clean off the old thermal paste. But, I *do not* have isopropyl alcohol.
I used a lot of q-tips and dampened both sides in regular tap water and scrubbed off the old paste. Is this method a safe one?
yeah, I'd say so, I've cleaned up many old laptops this way, just make sure is the processor and anything else you may have gotten damp or wet is dry afterwards :)
When I work on old laptops I almost never use any alcohol or water, as long as you can remove the paste and polish up the die using something like a cotton bud it should be fine. I'd avoid using water anywhere near it, carefully cleaning off the old paste and a polish should be enough
I use an old tshirt and windex. if it gets the paste off, its fine.
should just make sure you let it air dry cause if it goes back in damp it can cause corrosion
I still have an old core 2 duo notebook with 2gb of ddr2 ram in dual channel, it still works great using windows 7 but now I gave it to ny mother
i’m in the process of seeing if I can get Win10 working with Apple drivers. i gather it’s possible but you have to wedge them in yourself (Bootcamp won’t support Win10 on a 2007 MacBook)
wich web browser did you use? because Chrome and others do not let me do anything, Thanks!!!
I put kubuntu on this with a 500gb ssd and 6gb of ram on it and it flies. Screw windows and apple OS Linux is the God of operating systems.
0:32 I still have a Dell latitude e6400 ATG from 2010 that I saved from being thrown out at a college I was going to about 5 years ago. Upgraded the RAM (2 gbs-4 gbs- 8gbs), CPU, HDD to SSD, wifi card (to the Intel ac 7260 card which also has Bluetooth surprisingly), and for some reason, the optical drive. It allowed me to use this laptop for another 4 years.
The screen made for my particular laptop, was the ONLY laptop in the past decade with a class action lawsuits over the screen itself. Still use the original screen as it's not worth it to replace it.
The E6400 is a great model. Rock solid. I still use E6410 for class laptops in schools Because they are cheap, rock solid and easy to work on. The display on the ATG has bubbles from the glue they used on the sides of the underneath the bezel. I never seen one that didn’t have the bubbles problem, some severe.
@@chapmangleason mine are severe, as I've been using the same screen for years
Latitudes are great machines. If you aren't one that uses that optical drive I would suggest getting a hard drive caddy adapter to put in place of it. You could then add a secondary drive such as a 1TB HDD or an SSD. If you look around on ebay I believe there may be a full HD (1920x1080) screen you could upgrade it to, if it has the basic 1366x768 panel still, there was for my e6430, not sure about the 6400. I loved my e6430, I had upgraded the CPU, Ram and HDD to an SSD. Unfortunately it seemed that the ebay seller may have scammed me, the laptop had coffee spilled on it at some point and the motherboard soon died, it would have cost more than the laptop was worth to put a new board in.
You should try it with the upgrades and Mac OS.
i agree - OSX Patcher gave my 2007 MacBooks new life: www.rmc-team.ch/osx-patcher
There's no way that the performance could be less just because the battery is stone dead because you could just take out the battery connect your charger and the computer will still turn on
Can it run Big Sur with a patcher or does it have to windows 10 for modern days
MX-4 is made by Arctic, not Arctic Silver. Two completely different and separate companies.
Ha, i keep getting them mixed up since I have both in the back. I'll try to make sure not to do that again, thanks!
Arctic is the BRAND. Arctic MX-4 and Arctic Silver 5 are TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF THERMAL COMPOUND.
@@NickTheGreek5109 Nope. Arctic and Arctic Silver are two separate companies.
I have both an 2007 A1181 and the A1278, from 2011 respectively. Both in Bright white. 2007 and 2011.
I love these machines! My question is ...is there a browser that picks up where Safari left us OGs in the dark? I have tried a few of them with no luck. Maybe some sort of upgrade would help? Thanks!!
I have the same macbook. But it is a 32bit. The os is stuck at snow leopard. Yes, i can do Mpostfactor ‘upgrade’ but there are issues when i did that. Web browser (ffox) is still working but not the latest. At best, you can watch youtube on it. Not sure what to do with it. Windows 10 32bit?
RMC’s OSX Patcher worked on 10.11.6 the first time: www.rmc-team.ch/osx-patcher - someone here apparently has Mojave running (not surprisingly slow). I kludged Win10 on my A1181- i haven’t had time to get Apple drivers installed yet - I’m sure I’ll figure it out at some point.
I want to know the name of that ribbon adapter that can be attached to the inside of this Macbook, so I can install a full size pci card, so I can use that hack to install Catalina on it. That hack typically does not work on machines older than the first half of 2008 because Mac OS did not have 64 bit driver support for these machines, but Windows did support the video card. That is why Windows 10 64bit is possible on these machines, but Catalina is not, but it is possible if a newer video card is attached. I have one of these where the battery lock is broke on it and I feel like it would be perfect for a DIY desktop MacOS conversion.
Nice i enjoyed. Thank you
You should do a video installing the Catalina patcher by dosdude1
Excellent Video! What fan speeds and temps did you get afterward?
It's a lucky thing old MacBook can be upgradable unlike those latest models. They glue the battery and soldered memory rams and ssd drives inside the logic boards.
yes - all in the pursuit of the slab of glass...
Can you make a quick update video on your Maaco Crown Vic?
keep up the great work
I have one of those Late 2007 MacBooks, and the thing is that the second RAM slot just doesn't work, and I've tried everything, it just won't work, if you got any ideeas let me know :)
I have one of these MacBooks my friend just gave me. I think I will let someone else work on it lol
Its back
It seems older enterprise machines are good sleeper boxes.
what’s a sleeper box? tried to google it and get 18-wheeler rigs :)
@@chinarut Think 'making the flashy hot thing look old and busted.' Like making a honda civic that could dominate in a quarter mile but no lights, no detailing or rims to make it look like anything other tha na cheapo used car.
Same thing applies here. Make the terrifying and modern PC look like something you dug out of an attic rather than see how much RGB you can cram into it.
Those Kingston A400 drives are shite.I will never buy one ever again.Very prone to failure.Now I know why they are so cheap. I was given one of these MacBooks and it works fine.
In one of my sensor cables @8:59 the cables went out. So now I can connect only one of then, the other one is loose. What can I do? is there any problem if only is connected one?
I'd recommend putting faint music in the background of your videos. Sometimes the silence is a bit annoying. Other than that A+ video
Hi, Thanks for the video and the discussion the comments is very useful. I too have a MB A1181 Black. I have not been using it for a few years now. Now since I have some spare time on hands due to the lockdown I thought of working on that MB. However, it just wont boot. No matter what option I try it takes me to the flashing question mark screen. I was able to boot from USB previously but now even that does not seem to work no matter how long the option key is kept pressed. I have tried bootable USB, bootable DVD. RAM seems fine as the startup chime is played. Any advise what could be wrong with the MB? Any suggestions would be much appreciated
Changed the sata cables in your mc then the problem will be solved
Would you mind making a video about installing elementary OS on this machine? Having a lot of trouble with the 32 bit EFI. The Odin installer no longer uses ubiquity and I’m getting an error setting up grub
video how to install new Cataline on this new SSD?
Do you have any videos of removing the motherboard
what OSX are u running in this machine? because i have 2008 late and the last OSX for this machine is Lion.... and youtube cant be used any more
Okay 2h 12m is actually quite bad for iGPU based machine... My Latitude D830 lasted 5h 20m with its iGPU and a 45W X9000 CPU
I would never say the value of this machine is in raw computing power. it’s in the flexibility to work in Linux, OSX and Windows.
Hello, thanks for your nice videos and infos. In this video wich MAc osx version do you put on the macbook?
I would really like to know how you got the SSD to work with this computer. I have 6 of those computers I was using for a kids after school STEM class and I could not get the hardware to recognize any of the SSD's that I tried. Mostly because I could not find any that had the slowest Serial SATA interface of 1.5 Gbps. Everything seems to be 3 or 6 Gbps SATA 2 or SATA 3.
Later SATA standards are backward compatible with earlier standards. I.E. you should actually be perfectly fine using a SATA III drive in a system that originally supported SATA I (you will just be limited to SATA I speeds). So you should be able to use a normal modern SATA III (6 gb/s) drive in these laptops. The one I used in the video is SATA III. I'm not a huge MacOS guy, so I might be wrong here, but it might be MacOS itself that cannot recognize the drive. You should try using a Linux distro, like I did in the video, and seeing if that recognizes the drive. There are a ton of other things to check, but that would be my recommended first step.
Wow cool 6 I wish 🤣I got mine on eBay already with 2 GB and 240 GB HD I wanna change upgrade after snow leopard
Ah the Apple crack book. I was so pissed off when I realised my MacBooks shell was starting to rot away ☹️
yup known defect - the Apple Store replaced my shell for free in 2010 even though it was 3 years old - they even special ordered a Thai keyboard to replace the whole thing!
Install Ubuntu Mate, that is a good machine.
Hi! I have a question, because I have a MacBook 2007 at home and I would like to get it ready for children. Which web browser are you using in the video? Thanks a lot!
cant figure mine out, i can install windows to a hard drive and put it in and it works, but i cant install MacOS for some reason! i have tried from DVD, USB and even CMD R and nothing works, its a CONSTANT folder with ? in it. im ready to chuck the thing out the window because i cannot get it to work
How can i upgraded the MacOs into more higher like yosemite or sierra coz this Macbook aren't supported
My battery died a few days ago, am I better of buying a 2nd hand OEM or should I go for a 3rd party battery like you? Thanks
OEM if you can find it cheap and healthy condition or aftermarket new with good warranty.
Hiii,.i really like all your upgrade but can u help me by make a video how to upgrade dell 6500 to its best perfotmance...i really appreciate it..tq
1:18 that's what she said.
How did you install elementary OS on it?
What is the maximum amount of RAM that can be used on this?
i recently obtained a black coloured macbook 1181. the battery is stone dead. is there any way to get power to it aside from obtaining a magsafe charger?
please reply, anybody, with suggestions.
thank
Owesome video
Excellent Video ! Is it possible to upgarde the cpu and replace the dvd with another ssd drive ?
The author stated that the CPU is (permanently) soldered to the motherboard. The power/data connectors on the DVD are identical to those connectors on a SSD. So, it will connect. The problem is getting the 2nd SSD to stay connected -- not moving-around in the drive-bay.
or you just do what smart mac users do we continue to use the original o.s by hacking versions of chrome and firefox
do u mean u’ve gotten a recent build of Chrome and Firefox to work in 10.7.5?
How do I image it? Can I do usb? If yes then how I held the alt button from off until it booted It just booted normal. Also I know I can install Linux mint or Elementary via DVD. Problem is my disk drive is dead. I am going to try and drop in my cd drive from my 2012 MacBook Pro and hope it fires up so then I can then install from dvd by pushing the c key when booting up and then select dvd drive. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Tried running DosDude1 patcher with Mojave or something on this?
Nope, i'm not really a MacOS guy so that doesn't interest me. I'm sure some other more Mac oriented channels have tried that though!
Doesn't work on anything earlier than a 2009. There was a very short lived 2009 that shared this same outward case and can use dosdude's patcher. But then they switched the plastic unibody (which also of course can use the patcher, I've got one).
KioAMVs the model you were talking about was a late 2008. Not 2009. I have one of those with its aluminum case instead of plastic.
KioAMVs ah I right I’ve seen someone do it that was all forgot apple did that thanks.
@@owenready7043 Nope, I am talking specifically about MacBook Whites. www.engadget.com/2009-10-22-unibody-macbook-late-2009-review.html
I have this exact computer that I'm trying to get going for my daughter's schooling needs. I only need it to run 1 program well. The system requirements of said program are iOS 10.13 or higher, safari 14.1 or higher, or chrome 88 or higher. If anyone could tell me whether or not these upgrades could make this program work I would be soooooo thankful.
Short answer No. Long answer. You can use the last compatible version of that program on this MacBook with the upgrades on macOs Lion.. (mountain lion unofficially). (parotgeek script).
10.13 is H.Sierra so you would need at least a MacBook pro 2008 and up or MacBook white 2009 and up. All those support high sierra officially and unofficially and run very stable. With SSD and 6-8ram they are still very usable even in 2021. I sold a few for $200-250 with max upgrades and essential apps pre-installed.
This white ones from video I'll probably sell for $100-150 max hopefully with max upgrades + apps
@@Alex2021ZR1 what does max updates and app??
Hi Great video. I want to know is, if I put new drive in, will I lose my OS?
yes