I'm about halfway through the game myself and I can safely say that, even with a completionist mindset; this game is a joy. The Ubisoft DNA is definitely concerning at first glance, but once you really get into it, it's great. Definitely leagues better than any modern open world Ubisoft game (bar a few here and there). FF16 was also, much like Rebirth, a blast. Even with all its 'repetitive' side-content. The dialog and character building you get from those little fetchquests in both games are delightful in my eyes. That's what FF has always been about.
@@real_zxn0 there has never been fetch quests in ff. They were added for content and that's all. Most were irrelevant completely. It's ok tho the game is good. But don't act like it's going to change the landscape of RPGs. If you took the game without the story driving it and gave it to people no one would play it. If you created another world and filled it with the fetch quests and side missions of this game no one would buy it. Its ok to criticize a game even if you like it if it's honest
@@nobodyimportant124 I agree with you 100%, however I'm afraid you misunderstood. I was merely referring to the fact that the dialog and character building which happens throughout both games is what FF is about. Even during the boring parts. The games aren't perfect, absolutely not; but to see the positives in something that most people find unbearable is really what I'm getting at. Hope this cleared up any confusion haha.
Chadley might just be the annoying NPC ever. Seriously, at this point I'm beginning to wonder if he's not the real villain of the game, rather than Sephiroth.
I absolutely agree with you! FF7 Rebirth was like making taffy or pizza dough. You just keep stretching it out and stretching it out and it just doesn't stop. I just got fatigued by this and am now just about to beat Elden Ring. MY GOD...I'm moving to something fresh, short and indie after I beat Elden Ring.
I definitely wish they had left all the multiverse and fate ghost stuff out and just done a straight remake. Especially since they ultimately didn't end up changing the story at all where it mattered. **SPOILERS** It was one thing tolerating all this extra nonsense in Remake when I thought it might mean that Aerith survives and the story could radically deviate from the original, but then they go and kill her off still regardless. Which just left me wondering why they bothered? They just slathered a bunch of convoluted nonsense on top of an already-convoluted story and it adds nothing but confusion.
They needed to take about half the side content and shove it into Postgame so you it’s not dividing your attention during the supposedly urgent main quest
I acknowledge it's all optional...but the overworld is still part of the game, so I express how I feel about it as I'm talking about the game. Simple as that.
@@vooster then pace yourself. You don’t have to do it all as soon as you get to that region. I stopped worrying about doing each region when I got to it by chapter 7. Then it was all story and came back later and played in small increments. Then I got the platinum.
@@brycetheoddball yes, that is the ideal way to play the game. I, however, have the impulse to tackle it all before moving on to the main story. It's a personal problem for me, I know. I'm just sharing my experience
@@vooster It is like complaining about wow being too big. Like that is the point. With games like this the bigger the better, if you just want to do the main story do that, if you want to just do QB or other mini games do that. Even me with ADHD realize that, and if I stay up all night doing side quests, that is my fault.
Nah I wish the game was even longer. I was literally dreading moving on to the final area cuz I wanted more. It is truly a masterpiece imo, 11/10. Close to 200 hours sunk.
This! 100% agree. Unfortunately it's 2024 and everyone will start nagging about every little itsy bitsy tiny thing. Imagine complaning about a game having "too much content" where most of it is completely optional. Blows my mind.
What i dislike most bout this series is that you "kill" on of those shinra bosses or turks but they always get to live somehow, feels like those VR fights.
I’m debating getting a PS5 for my birthday just to play Final Fantasy Rebirth! Would you say it’s worth it and what other games would you recommend? ☺️
@@valenlevalenle6394 if you're a big final fantasy fan who likes FF7 Remake, then it wouldn't be the worst idea to treat yourself. Rebirth is a big game so it'll keep you busy for a good while. I don't know your taste in games to be recommending you other games, but if you're mainly a console gamer then I'd say it's worth getting a PS5 to own the latest console generation to play other PS5 exclusives you're interested in. Also, happy birthday whenever it is :)
@@voosterso I ended up getting a PS5 and the game! I absolutely LOVE it but I 100% understand what you mean by open world fatigue!! 🤣 if I have to scan one more crystal!! Also, I took a break from gathering intel and Chadley had the AUDACITY to tell me I’ve been slacking. The game is great though when it sticks to the story!!
I ended up dropping rebirth at chapter 12. The Costa del sol mini games all gained rank III challenges but I had beat the scores when going for rank II scores but that didn’t count. Meaning I’d have to spend time redoing and learning the mini games again and that was just frustrating. I then just decided not to bother anymore. The chocobo glide, the towers in each area, it all just made me burned out
I don't get this comparison with "ubisoft" games. Far Cry 5 is innovative. There is basiclly no "checklist", you just do wathever you like, which happens to make the enemies angry, which results in the progress of the story. What's wrong with FC5? What's wrong with ACV? I got ACV and all the DLCs for 20 or 25, after one year from release (same for FC5 + New Dawn), while botw, which copied the worst of ubisoft, is still over 60, totk over 60, FFVII remake over 60. I am not a fan of Ubisoft, but their games are often far superior.
i dont mind the lots of side content but if its not relevant to the story dont add them to the main story, i felt like there were way too many mini games that were mandatory.
I prefer this over ff15 by miles. 15 has a big and stunning world, but it's mostly empty and lifeless. A lot of the traversal is also just sitting in your car in real time until you reached your destination. I enjoyed the game quite a bit when playing it back in 2016, but after a recent second playthrough with a new perspective, I did not like it so much either.
@@genorem yea but they have items locked behind them. Some have weapons locked behind them that you need to get new moves. Like I said I like ff and I loved the remake but that doesn't mean I can't criticize a commonly complained about flaw. Idk why people like you idolize games and act like every aspect of them are perfect. That's not realistic
@@nobodyimportant124 You're being unrealistic. It's a video game first and foremost, unless you want the game to give you everything you want, items being locked behind optional content is NOT a flaw of a game. That is a YOU problem. No weapon is locked from you and if you miss them they are available to buy. If you and others don't want to do the optional content then the consequence is that you miss out on extra items, NONE of which you actually need to finish the main game. I do not have unrealistic views of this game in particular, this common complaint are personal tastes people are labeling as a flaw in a game that gives you consequences in ignoring exploration. something it encourages. Its like complaining that you have too many options to kill or knock out soldiers in a stealth game and calling it a flaw, when said game has just as many options to sneak around and even incentives you to do so. There's no flaw, you just don't want to play the game the way it wants you to.
@@genorem like I said people like you think just because you like a game it can't have any flaws. There is definitely content in there that's only purpose is to add playtime to the game. Like I said I like the game. But if you think doing the same time consuming tasks in different areas is fun then go ahead. But for me In a game focused around a story I don't want half the game locked behind repetitive tasks and mini games. I don't wanna be burnt out at the last couple locations because they made it a puzzle to navigate the map. I wanna enjoy the cinematic remake that they made not run around helping clone jonnys when it didn't happen I'm the original and is a wacky no story connection side quest with good items behind it I don't wanna do the same recipe for every area. It's the literal reason I haven't finished the game yet despite me loving ff. For you to act like my opinion is trash and invalid just because your a obsessive fan is ridiculous.
"I'm sick of them being bloated with monotonous side activities. I have completionist OCD where I could to complete like every surrounding side activities before progressing the main story." It sounds like a "you" problem than the game itself being too large with so much content. On a related side note, my problem is that the game is too big and with so much side quest that I'm having a hard time trying to connect the main story to where I left.
@SnuSnu91 Weird take. Nobody forces you to play the game fullstop. Is your philosophy then that they could just add in any old rubbish because its not part of the main story? Collect 900 korok seeds, 100 artifact fragments etc? Its ok to critique things you dont like. I still think it was an excellent game but imo would have been even better with less repetitive go to map location and press button content. I played spoiler free, i wanted to unlock all chadleys materia and i didnt know if there was cool new content/areas/reward behind doing all the tickbox stuff.
@@SnuSnu91do you use this same logic when it comes to censorship? If you aren’t forced to directly engage with the content then it SHOULD be there right?
the tomtom and the guides are the problem, you cant run anywhere without a ? popping up or a owl harrassing you. if they removed all that and just left the content in it so that you can actually discover things that would be awesome. but so , it is just a todo list and people talking about "we did make good PROGRESS today" by crossing things off should be a major indicator that the game isnt doing fine as a game.
@@genorem dude, please stay respectful, this is nonsense! you can acknowledge critic of a game even if you like the game. you cannot "ignore" a fist in the face! if the owl flys around you, you immediately know there is something nearby, you cannot unremember it! if you getting closer to the point the owl gets more penetrant, if you get away the owl is not following. so you know if the owl is gone you go in a direction where is nothing, and you know if you near the point the owl is circling you. also you cannot ignore question marks, for the same reason. why do i even need to explain this. and why is there no setting to turn this harrasment off? whats the problem with that. in the original were guides as well but you had to turn them on. this arent games anymore. if the game tells you everything what you need to do in any moment without having to think at all you are not playing the game, but the game plays you. the game tells you which buttons to push and you push the button. if you think about it, its actually creepy. i dont want to be played by my game!
Based on your conclusion to the video, change the title. You say it's perfect, yet you say it gives you severe open-world fatigue. Very misleading and comes across as disingenuous and negative.
@@Samanosuke1138 I said it's the closest thing to my idea of a perfect ff, not that it's perfect. In other words, it does a lot of things I like for a final fantasy game, but I do think it's bloated with a lot of dull content as well.
@@vooster I got that from the video. But, again, it's the title. It's very damning against the game as opposed to praising the title for being "near perfect" as the actual video suggests. That's all I'm saying. The title doesn't match the content, which I thought was pretty good.
@@Samanosuke1138 I understand, part of the reason behind the title was to, admittedly, prompt more engagement which I'm sure you can understand. I appreciate the positive feedback brother
It's click-bait but that's not content creators' fault, it's UA-cam algorithm and viewers' human brain. People click if something threatens to piss them off or make them very happy. Nuance and reasonable middle just doesn't attract eyeballs,
Too bad they ruined the story, the most engaging and memorable aspect of the game. I would have bought a PS5 to play it, and would have bought 5 games to play it if that's what they wanted.
Oof. Wouldn't call that ruining it. They just added some bits to make for a better telling of the story. I loved it alot. There are a lot less plot holes.
@@therecruitassassin "oof" he says, and proceed to lie about the story. Go back to your time travel, multiverse, unoriginal bastardization you mindless squeenix fanboy
@@therecruitassassin na they ruined the plot by explaining it all the way and then made changes. in the original people didnt know what cloud was wrong with. you got told by the big reveal after falling into the life stream where things resolved. and some bits where added after playing a second time and paying attention. and then there are things like in remake where there is no blood trail and no dead shinra president with the big sword in his back on his table. those were pretty iconic moments, not existing in remake.
@meggi8048 People still do not know what's wrong with Cloud. The big reveal is yet to come. Veteran fans already know what's wrong with Cloud so it might seem that they are telling too much. But people who're actually new do not have ANY clue as to what the twist of the story is. And I say this because my husband is completely new to this. And he is, simply put, just confused at this point which is exactly what the developers want you feeling at this point. As far as the Masamune in President Shinra's back is concerned, that seems a much poorer telling of the story with much left to be explained. How did it get there? How is the Masamune at Shinra when Sephiroth fell along with it into the Lifestream? Now, however, that's not the case. As I said, less plot holes.
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To be clear, I like the game...
Love huge gameworlds
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@@TheXantaur Thank you so much. Your support means a ton.
I'm about halfway through the game myself and I can safely say that, even with a completionist mindset; this game is a joy.
The Ubisoft DNA is definitely concerning at first glance, but once you really get into it, it's great. Definitely leagues better than any modern open world Ubisoft game (bar a few here and there).
FF16 was also, much like Rebirth, a blast. Even with all its 'repetitive' side-content.
The dialog and character building you get from those little fetchquests in both games are delightful in my eyes. That's what FF has always been about.
@@real_zxn0 there has never been fetch quests in ff. They were added for content and that's all. Most were irrelevant completely. It's ok tho the game is good. But don't act like it's going to change the landscape of RPGs. If you took the game without the story driving it and gave it to people no one would play it. If you created another world and filled it with the fetch quests and side missions of this game no one would buy it. Its ok to criticize a game even if you like it if it's honest
@@nobodyimportant124 I agree with you 100%, however I'm afraid you misunderstood.
I was merely referring to the fact that the dialog and character building which happens throughout both games is what FF is about. Even during the boring parts.
The games aren't perfect, absolutely not; but to see the positives in something that most people find unbearable is really what I'm getting at. Hope this cleared up any confusion haha.
Chadley might just be the annoying NPC ever. Seriously, at this point I'm beginning to wonder if he's not the real villain of the game, rather than Sephiroth.
Word. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be some manifestation of sephiroth or somethin
I absolutely agree with you! FF7 Rebirth was like making taffy or pizza dough. You just keep stretching it out and stretching it out and it just doesn't stop. I just got fatigued by this and am now just about to beat Elden Ring. MY GOD...I'm moving to something fresh, short and indie after I beat Elden Ring.
I guess you always have the option to stick to main story and avoid side content.
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I definitely wish they had left all the multiverse and fate ghost stuff out and just done a straight remake. Especially since they ultimately didn't end up changing the story at all where it mattered.
**SPOILERS**
It was one thing tolerating all this extra nonsense in Remake when I thought it might mean that Aerith survives and the story could radically deviate from the original, but then they go and kill her off still regardless. Which just left me wondering why they bothered? They just slathered a bunch of convoluted nonsense on top of an already-convoluted story and it adds nothing but confusion.
They needed to take about half the side content and shove it into Postgame so you it’s not dividing your attention during the supposedly urgent main quest
Oh yay complaint number 50,000 that that acts like the game is forcing the overworld on you and you doc points from it
I acknowledge it's all optional...but the overworld is still part of the game, so I express how I feel about it as I'm talking about the game. Simple as that.
@@vooster then pace yourself. You don’t have to do it all as soon as you get to that region. I stopped worrying about doing each region when I got to it by chapter 7. Then it was all story and came back later and played in small increments. Then I got the platinum.
@@brycetheoddball yes, that is the ideal way to play the game. I, however, have the impulse to tackle it all before moving on to the main story. It's a personal problem for me, I know. I'm just sharing my experience
@@vooster It is like complaining about wow being too big. Like that is the point. With games like this the bigger the better, if you just want to do the main story do that, if you want to just do QB or other mini games do that. Even me with ADHD realize that, and if I stay up all night doing side quests, that is my fault.
@@mangomariel I acknowledge it's my own fault. I also really like the game. I don't know why this has to be a heated debate.
Nah I wish the game was even longer. I was literally dreading moving on to the final area cuz I wanted more. It is truly a masterpiece imo, 11/10. Close to 200 hours sunk.
100% agree
This! 100% agree.
Unfortunately it's 2024 and everyone will start nagging about every little itsy bitsy tiny thing. Imagine complaning about a game having "too much content" where most of it is completely optional. Blows my mind.
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What i dislike most bout this series is that you "kill" on of those shinra bosses or turks but they always get to live somehow, feels like those VR fights.
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I’m debating getting a PS5 for my birthday just to play Final Fantasy Rebirth! Would you say it’s worth it and what other games would you recommend? ☺️
@@valenlevalenle6394 if you're a big final fantasy fan who likes FF7 Remake, then it wouldn't be the worst idea to treat yourself. Rebirth is a big game so it'll keep you busy for a good while. I don't know your taste in games to be recommending you other games, but if you're mainly a console gamer then I'd say it's worth getting a PS5 to own the latest console generation to play other PS5 exclusives you're interested in.
Also, happy birthday whenever it is :)
Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, Horizon: Forbidden West and Kena: Bridge of Spirits are all games I would recommend getting.
rebirth took me 330 real time hours to platinum, just be ready for that
@@cs8712not everyone wants or needs to platinum the game, it's the same length or shorter than you're average open world collectathon
@@voosterso I ended up getting a PS5 and the game! I absolutely LOVE it but I 100% understand what you mean by open world fatigue!! 🤣 if I have to scan one more crystal!! Also, I took a break from gathering intel and Chadley had the AUDACITY to tell me I’ve been slacking. The game is great though when it sticks to the story!!
I ended up dropping rebirth at chapter 12. The Costa del sol mini games all gained rank III challenges but I had beat the scores when going for rank II scores but that didn’t count. Meaning I’d have to spend time redoing and learning the mini games again and that was just frustrating.
I then just decided not to bother anymore. The chocobo glide, the towers in each area, it all just made me burned out
What a weird reason to not like something, because the entirely optional content got new levels?
Am I the only one who finds FF7R very… staged…? It doesn’t feel like a true open world, probably because of how directed everything is.
I don't get this comparison with "ubisoft" games. Far Cry 5 is innovative.
There is basiclly no "checklist", you just do wathever you like, which happens to make the enemies angry, which results in the progress of the story.
What's wrong with FC5?
What's wrong with ACV?
I got ACV and all the DLCs for 20 or 25, after one year from release (same for FC5 + New Dawn), while botw, which copied the worst of ubisoft, is still over 60, totk over 60, FFVII remake over 60.
I am not a fan of Ubisoft, but their games are often far superior.
i dont mind the lots of side content but if its not relevant to the story dont add them to the main story, i felt like there were way too many mini games that were mandatory.
I wonder how you think this stacks up against FFXV? It's the last open world FF I played and I just did not like it.
I prefer this over ff15 by miles. 15 has a big and stunning world, but it's mostly empty and lifeless. A lot of the traversal is also just sitting in your car in real time until you reached your destination. I enjoyed the game quite a bit when playing it back in 2016, but after a recent second playthrough with a new perspective, I did not like it so much either.
Need more content
What you need more mindless mini games. I like ff but c'mon. Doing stuff just for the sake of "content" isn't fun it's a job
@@nobodyimportant124 don't see how when all the one's not related to story you don't have to do. which is like 70% of them.
@@genorem yea but they have items locked behind them. Some have weapons locked behind them that you need to get new moves. Like I said I like ff and I loved the remake but that doesn't mean I can't criticize a commonly complained about flaw. Idk why people like you idolize games and act like every aspect of them are perfect. That's not realistic
@@nobodyimportant124
You're being unrealistic.
It's a video game first and foremost, unless you want the game to give you everything you want, items being locked behind optional content is NOT a flaw of a game. That is a YOU problem.
No weapon is locked from you and if you miss them they are available to buy.
If you and others don't want to do the optional content then the consequence is that you miss out on extra items, NONE of which you actually need to finish the main game.
I do not have unrealistic views of this game in particular, this common complaint are personal tastes people are labeling as a flaw in a game that gives you consequences in ignoring exploration. something it encourages.
Its like complaining that you have too many options to kill or knock out soldiers in a stealth game and calling it a flaw, when said game has just as many options to sneak around and even incentives you to do so.
There's no flaw, you just don't want to play the game the way it wants you to.
@@genorem like I said people like you think just because you like a game it can't have any flaws. There is definitely content in there that's only purpose is to add playtime to the game. Like I said I like the game. But if you think doing the same time consuming tasks in different areas is fun then go ahead. But for me In a game focused around a story I don't want half the game locked behind repetitive tasks and mini games. I don't wanna be burnt out at the last couple locations because they made it a puzzle to navigate the map. I wanna enjoy the cinematic remake that they made not run around helping clone jonnys when it didn't happen I'm the original and is a wacky no story connection side quest with good items behind it
I don't wanna do the same recipe for every area. It's the literal reason I haven't finished the game yet despite me loving ff. For you to act like my opinion is trash and invalid just because your a obsessive fan is ridiculous.
"I'm sick of them being bloated with monotonous side activities. I have completionist OCD where I could to complete like every surrounding side activities before progressing the main story."
It sounds like a "you" problem than the game itself being too large with so much content.
On a related side note, my problem is that the game is too big and with so much side quest that I'm having a hard time trying to connect the main story to where I left.
Brilliant game but would be far better without the ridiculous padding/tickbox content. Felt it didnt really respect my time. Fully agree.
described it perfectly...
No one, literally no one forces you to do the side content. You can have a story plathrough "respects your time" and you're done.
@SnuSnu91 Weird take. Nobody forces you to play the game fullstop. Is your philosophy then that they could just add in any old rubbish because its not part of the main story? Collect 900 korok seeds, 100 artifact fragments etc? Its ok to critique things you dont like. I still think it was an excellent game but imo would have been even better with less repetitive go to map location and press button content. I played spoiler free, i wanted to unlock all chadleys materia and i didnt know if there was cool new content/areas/reward behind doing all the tickbox stuff.
@@SnuSnu91do you use this same logic when it comes to censorship? If you aren’t forced to directly engage with the content then it SHOULD be there right?
the tomtom and the guides are the problem, you cant run anywhere without a ? popping up or a owl harrassing you. if they removed all that and just left the content in it so that you can actually discover things that would be awesome. but so , it is just a todo list and people talking about "we did make good PROGRESS today" by crossing things off should be a major indicator that the game isnt doing fine as a game.
Don't activate the towers then
@@genorem not getting team xp then, also owls and ? still harassing.
@@meggi8048 you don't need team exp to explore.
Don't directly follow the owl and deal with the question mark.
It's all a you issue.
@@genorem dude, please stay respectful, this is nonsense! you can acknowledge critic of a game even if you like the game.
you cannot "ignore" a fist in the face! if the owl flys around you, you immediately know there is something nearby, you cannot unremember it! if you getting closer to the point the owl gets more penetrant, if you get away the owl is not following. so you know if the owl is gone you go in a direction where is nothing, and you know if you near the point the owl is circling you.
also you cannot ignore question marks, for the same reason.
why do i even need to explain this.
and why is there no setting to turn this harrasment off? whats the problem with that. in the original were guides as well but you had to turn them on.
this arent games anymore.
if the game tells you everything what you need to do in any moment without having to think at all you are not playing the game, but the game plays you.
the game tells you which buttons to push and you push the button. if you think about it, its actually creepy.
i dont want to be played by my game!
Based on your conclusion to the video, change the title. You say it's perfect, yet you say it gives you severe open-world fatigue. Very misleading and comes across as disingenuous and negative.
@@Samanosuke1138 I said it's the closest thing to my idea of a perfect ff, not that it's perfect. In other words, it does a lot of things I like for a final fantasy game, but I do think it's bloated with a lot of dull content as well.
Youre literally the 🤓 emoji
@@vooster I got that from the video. But, again, it's the title. It's very damning against the game as opposed to praising the title for being "near perfect" as the actual video suggests. That's all I'm saying. The title doesn't match the content, which I thought was pretty good.
@@Samanosuke1138 I understand, part of the reason behind the title was to, admittedly, prompt more engagement which I'm sure you can understand. I appreciate the positive feedback brother
It's click-bait but that's not content creators' fault, it's UA-cam algorithm and viewers' human brain. People click if something threatens to piss them off or make them very happy. Nuance and reasonable middle just doesn't attract eyeballs,
Too bad they ruined the story, the most engaging and memorable aspect of the game. I would have bought a PS5 to play it, and would have bought 5 games to play it if that's what they wanted.
I loved it my top 2 of the year
Oof. Wouldn't call that ruining it. They just added some bits to make for a better telling of the story. I loved it alot. There are a lot less plot holes.
@@therecruitassassin "oof" he says, and proceed to lie about the story. Go back to your time travel, multiverse, unoriginal bastardization you mindless squeenix fanboy
@@therecruitassassin na they ruined the plot by explaining it all the way and then made changes. in the original people didnt know what cloud was wrong with. you got told by the big reveal after falling into the life stream where things resolved. and some bits where added after playing a second time and paying attention.
and then there are things like in remake where there is no blood trail and no dead shinra president with the big sword in his back on his table. those were pretty iconic moments, not existing in remake.
@meggi8048 People still do not know what's wrong with Cloud. The big reveal is yet to come. Veteran fans already know what's wrong with Cloud so it might seem that they are telling too much. But people who're actually new do not have ANY clue as to what the twist of the story is. And I say this because my husband is completely new to this. And he is, simply put, just confused at this point which is exactly what the developers want you feeling at this point.
As far as the Masamune in President Shinra's back is concerned, that seems a much poorer telling of the story with much left to be explained. How did it get there? How is the Masamune at Shinra when Sephiroth fell along with it into the Lifestream? Now, however, that's not the case. As I said, less plot holes.