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TheStraightPipes The Fiat, for sure. You can straight pipe it if you want the noise (!) or buy an upgraded Monza exhaust. You can rest your arm while driving, it’s a slightly higher ride and the suspension stays flat in corners. I’d change the badges for classic smaller Fiat ones, get a wood shifter and people are tuning these to 300+ hp (including changing turbo timing)...for thousands less than the equivalent MX-5.
To all those people ranting about advertising, I have my own rant to match. It costs time and money to produce content of this quality. A typical 30 minute show on cable TV has 8 minutes of advertising and 22 minutes of content. For an average 15 minute video, I don't think the advertising exceeds 4 minutes. Yes, they have in-built plug-ins but that is more directed advertising and more subtle than typical instagram models. These guys need money for gas too. Be nice! Always!
Amen to that. I hate ads, but hell, if ads support these guys to keep making great content, you can bet I'm willing to spend 30 seconds of my measly life to enjoy 17:17 minutes of awesome car reviews.
@@TheDGeneration I agree. The timing and type of ads may be set by the UA-cam alogorithm. Not sure if the uploader can control the times when they play.
these guys do it very well, without pissing me off like standard interrupting YT ads which cut in at the most inappropriate times. YT ads are the worst.
I have a Mini that I love, but I don't see what that has to do with anything. You look ridiculous trying to brag and posture right now. I hope your roof leaks. And word of advice: I wouldn't have your attitude when you're parking, or around neighbours, or you'll come back to a knifed ragtop.
Begin Rant: California is THE WORST state in the US for left lane hogs. Slow drivers refuse to get out of the overtaking lane so often here that the slow lanes almost always end up serving as overtaking lanes. These inconsiderate drivers think the left lane is their cruise lane. I'm SOOO sick of it I'm considering leaving the state on that point alone. What makes it worse is when you finally relent to pass on the right, the left lane hog often suddenly gets defensive and speeds up forcing you to go even faster than you wanted to go just to get in front of them. The ultimate worst is people who pass 18-wheelers at 1mph faster than they are traveling. DON'T YOU KNOW HOW DANGEROUS IT IS TO HANG NEXT TO A GIANT TRUCK?? Pass that thing as fast as you can and get back in the lane you belong. I simply don't understand people like this when it's soooo freaking easy to do the considerate thing and move over into the right. I yield to faster traffic ALL THE TIME. I'm not any less of a man for it, it's simply the considerate thing to do. If you're driving the speed limit and you don't think someone should be driving faster, it is NOT YOUR JOB to enforce that. It's the highway patrol's job. Slower traffic should ALWAYS and without exception safely yield to faster oncoming traffic. It creates safer traffic patterns. End Rant.
Couldn’t agree more! It’s nuts here in Calif! Or you put your blinker on to signal your intent and they speed up so you can’t move over! Such craziness here!
im one of those left lane hogs. but in my defense i drive 10 over and if i see someone tailgating or coming in fast i move right, let em pass, then go left again when necessary doesnt help that my commute goes from 5 lanes to 2 and tons of 18 wheelers are clogging the right lane every time
@@sam.0021 If you move over, then you are fine in my book. I do the same thing. It's those who aren't considerate, totally aloof or purposefully antagonistic that I take issue with.
Evan J yea ive had some guys that literally change lanes with you to hold you back. dont understand them.. gotta do some insane traffic racing maneuvers just to pass lmao
I have an 2016 ND, but I like the looks of the Fiat slightly more. I like the quad exhaust, headlights and hood on this car. But the Fiat 124 was so hard to find when I was looking and just about all the local ones were automatics. I ended up traveling 400 miles to get the ND I ended up up buying, but I am totally happy with the car I have.
The Abarth has a proper mechanical limited slip diff I think which is a huge difference for performance and drivability , amazing reviewers are missing this massive plus and omission over the mx5 / miata!!
Amazing color combination!!! I love the rolling shots of the car! I like the style! You get to see how the car looks from an outside perspective :) not a lot of other car reviewers do this’ and you also point out the pros and cons in a professional manner! Love watching your videos
My mom still has her bone stock 1995 with under 100K miles. Top of the line for that year. It smells like an old Italian sports car. It's been sitting for a while so I fired it up to get the juices flowing and it's just as good as it ever was. Such an amazing car and nice that everything is stock on it. Nothing beats the first body style because you just can't make them that way anymore.
2018.5 124 Spider Abarth has the Abarth Logo on the wheel and Abarth embroidered on the seats, like a Euro spec. Solid video guys! So having owned a 2016 ND which was a great car, it still never got anywhere near the attention of my 2018 124 Spider Abarth. Changed the exhaust to make it sound much better including the cross pipe which significantly improves lag from the 1.4... I don’t regret the decision at all. Keep up the good work!
Fantastic video and liking that new pedal cam!! I’d have to agree with Yuri @ 2:45. I’d rather have the MX5 because the way Fiat was introduced into the North American market doesn’t fit this car’s style. It would be better if this model had no Fiat logos, especially that logo on that steering wheel as mentioned @ 6:25. But, still excited for this car partnership (much like the AE86) and hope Fiat/Mazda is willing to improve/refine this project.
Chris M, If you’re a Patreon $10/month or more supporter, you get early access to videos the guys finish editing early. Sometimes it’s released a day early, but lately it’s been about a week or more! Totally worth it because I can’t wait for the regular release days, you get mentioned in their thanks comment, and it’s a small way to support the guys!
This is why I said to try one with the Record Monza exhaust, but don't worry, it is an option for 2019! Also, it will have 2 badges on the fenders and the steering wheel ABARTH badge. Please don't say Abarte, it is A-Bart.
this car is the reason why companies are probably hesitating to compete with the miata. They know that it will be a hard fight against a car that has been out for decades. Its like any hot hatch competing against the golf.
iHeart GT86 {KatyCat} nah many hatches are better than the Golf in same way. But the Golf has its strength that it is overall a good car which doesnt have really bad downsites but also not many really cool things. Its an alrounder
I am not saying that the golf is the ultimate hot hatch. Its just that people are always comparing every type of hot hatch to the golf. For example, I personally like the looks of the forte5 sx but the first review I saw had a top comment of someone saying that its a pos that copies gti. Even the elantra gt sport is a pretty nice italian looking hatch but even that gets compared to the gti. Not saying the gti is bad but people don't give other cars a try much to form any type of good argumentent.
Hey guys. I have owned every generation of the Miata/MX-5. I sold my brand new ND2 2023 Club after 1 month and 500km. It was a little too small and feminine looking although I loved the Recaro and Brembo with BBS look. I just bought a 2017 124spider Abarth. Much more masculine looking, agressive and love every angle. Seats fit my body type better and the drive and handling is much more European tuned vs the MX-5. Noticed it right away. Plus it has all the bells a whistles including parking sensors. Only thing missing is Apple CarPlay but it connects great to my iPhone via Bluetooth and displays what is playing on the screen. I love the Italian design and Japanese build quality. I previously owned a 2004 Mazdaspeed Miata, which I loved except had no A/C and was not drivable on summer hot days. I have owned S5 convertible, S4 V8 convertible, BMW 4 series convertible… and I always keep coming back to a RWD FUN vehicle! For now I am happy having her hibernating in my garage for the winter months under her Mopar custom Abarth car cover. Looking forward to next summer. As they say it’s more fun driving a slow car fast than a fast car slow… looking forward to accumulating more smiles per mile (km) than ever before! Cheers from Montreal!
We have a Classica w/tech pkg and MT, this is all the car you need. We had a 981 Boxster and the Fiat puts you back in your seat better w/the torque from the turbo. It handles amazing and is much smoother over broken pavement than the Porsche or Mazda. Great car and a screaming’ bargain!
Honestly I've seen people mistake a 124 for a Ferrari just because they have no idea no one and I repeat no one will ever mistake a miata for anything but a miata or hey is that a fiero
I have driven the 2017 Fiat 124 Abarth & a 2016 Mazda MX-5 Club back to back on test drives. From that I have thoughts on both of these cars but I'm looking at a Daily Driver. Not a weekend toy ! So 1st up was the 2017 124 Spyder Abarth & it was in the White color with Black trim looking very cool. The interior features a Red tach in the cluster which I really liked. The car has a tight shift pattern & 2 times on the test drive I stalled the car from a stop because I was in 3rd not 1st ! I was in traffic & the clutch felt abnormally heavy for a small sports car. The 1.4 L turbo has some lag to it so the throttle response has delay. It handled well as expected. Both cars came equipped with Brembo brakes. Next was the MX-5 Club White with Black trim as well looking good. What the interior felt like was a better place to drive. The shifter immediately felt better in my hand. There was no notchy feeling & 1st was always found. The clutch was super light a real easy setup on the Mazda. The throttle response is instant in this car step on the gas & there is no delay. The naturally aspirated 2.0L 4 cylinder has a great power band & every gear had real push immediately. The car felt much more nimble than the 124 Spyder in corners. Quicker reflexes on this car. The dealer was awesome & gave me the car for Sunday partially Monday ( work got in way ) for an EXTENDED test drive. So I put my $$$ where my mouth is & bought the 2016 MX-5 Club with Brembo / BBS package. I daily drive this car in 4 season Illinois so when the cold weather hits the winter tires go on & its ALMOST as much fun in winter. Very fun car & so well designed. 3.5 years later & I would do it all again in a heartbeat !
Different cars, look at the names, in Europe it’s an Abarth 124 spider, in the states it’s a Fiat 124 Abarth, the Europe one is an Abarth, it goes on a little trip from japan to the Abarth factory in Italy for some Abarth bits to be added, the US one is a Fiat 124 spider with some Abarth badges stuck to it.
Another great review guys. Keep up the great work. Your friendship and balance between you works perfectly. (Driver/tech guy). I'm not going to be one of those people to say 'drive normal cars'. Just keep your self grounded. Too many UA-camrs and tv programmes get too hooked on the ultra expensive. Please do the reviews but you have to be excited at a new 25K car as a 250k car. Pretty much as you have done here. 'Subscriber and bell' ticked for a while. Patreon at some point soon. Loch Lomond, Scotland
I far prefer the looks of the 124. I always defended the MX-5's looks when they redesigned it and I maintain that it, along with other Mazdas, is a good-looking car. That being said, the 124 is a far better-looking car in comparison.
The starting price for 124 is great. 31500 + some discounts they are offering sounds very appealing. The only problem I have and that's what stops me from considering this car as a next purchase - soft top. I would easily pay 2-3k premium for a hard top version, but there is none. And you don't daily your soft top here in Canada.
I like the Fiata. It's styling is reminiscent of the NB Miata, but a bit more aggressive. I'm still not a fan of the ND Miata styling with its oddly shaped fenders, but I'm glad Mazda shared the platform for another alternative. Engineering specs on both cars are intriguing and I have to imagine normal aspiration vs. turbo affects one's choice in terms of driving experience. Hell, I'm just glad clutch manual transmission cars exist. I suspect one day they won't.
Great review Guys. Two things about style. Styles change - true style never changes.... your Seiko SKX007 is an example of true style. Timeless. The final thing about style... at the end of day you, ‘unfortunately’ are inevitably going to be visiting your local Dodge dealership every time you want it serviced. Hardly stylish, especially when you have to park between a Caravan and a 3/4 ton Cummins pickup (or worse a Neon). Thanks for the video.
Wow! Wasn't expecting to see this tbh. Anyways, when I bought the launch edition ND Miata in 2015, this was seriously discussed in the forums, but since it was still just a rumor/concept back then I didn't pay too much attention to it. I'd say I still like the Miata better, the styling of the 124 just doesn't speak to me as much as the Miata's, still a great car though.
I laughed out loud at Jakub's face when the passing motorcyclist exhaust interrupts his review. It made me think - do you guys have enough bloopers for a gag reel?? GAG REEL! Thanks for the awesome videos, as always!!
As much as I love my Abarth 124 Spider, I would never buy a Mazda Miata. People do not know what my car is. They ask me all the time if it is a $60K to $70K car and they would never do that to a Miata driver. The Abarth just looks more expensive than the Mazda in most peoples minds...
I have a 2019 Spyder Abarth, I got a good deal because it had 1600 miles on it. Original owner traded it in on a new Hemi Cuda because the Fiat was too small (it is too small, oh well) . I wouldn't have chosen black, but it's still beautiful. I would normally NEVER buy an Italian car. Great food and scenery, unreliable cars. Made on the same assembly line as the Miata was the reason I got it INSTEAD of a Miata. I love it!
Little nervous about the turbo since I've never owned one before, but to me the FIAT (non abarth version) is so beautiful I'm obsessed. It reminds me of a Maserati and small, light, affordable, convertible, RWD, manual is everything important to me in one car
3:26 - is that a massive panel gap on the passenger side of the hood/bonnet, even if just compared with the other side ? Right where the black joins the silver at the front.
They straight up should have put the exact same wheel as the 500 Abarth in here. Thick, flat-bottom, small, the best steering wheel unless you get into super exotic cars.
Spend $3,500 for a complete phase 2 tune on the Abarth and you have a car with 240 HP and 270 ft lbs of tourq for a lot less $$$ than if you have a German engined car...
picked one of these up in the classica 6speed about 8 months before the pandemic supply shortage caused used prices to skyrocket. within 6 months they were already selling for 7k more than I paid....but there's no way I'd flip it. I've always driven trucks and only picked this up because it was only 1 of 2 manuals on the lot, but I'm in love. Over a year later, and even with a pretty big following here in Texas, I've only ever seen 2 others in the wild. So much fun
Alright, I tried to watch this. I really did. I'm thinking about buying an Abarth and I want to know what other people think but these two are such Miata fan boys that it's hard to get any information at all. I lost count at how many times they dropped the Miata brand and stopped watching at when they started to brag about their watches. This video should be called a 2018 Miata Review while driving in a 124 Spider Abarth.
The 1.4 MultiJet engine that is the heart of this automobile, is one of the most solid turbo engines to ever be put into production. Lately they've added smart direct injection, which reduces carbon buildup. It has a great reputation for being light agile and very reliable (yeah, let the italian car stereotypes roll in without any knowledge). The chassis is roughly the same as the ND's, only with one MAJOR difference. The Abarth has a proper Limited Slip as standart. That makes a big difference. Also, the Fiat is lighter thanks to the Turbo 1.4.
I traded in my Audi S5 and bought a 2018 Abarth 124 spider a few weeks ago and I LOVE IT. It's a likeable car at first but once you really learn how to drive it's some of the most fun I've had in a car and I've driven some nice cars. You can get a really good deal on them and they're a great platform for tuning.
Subscribed. I’m looking at a fiat over an ND2 for one reason. Autocross. The fiat goes into STU rather than STR. I think it might be a fun build to see what it can do. Also if it doesn’t work out all the suspension parts are sellable to either chassis and plenty of fiat owners want power adders. All this said I might hold off to see what they add for the 2019. I doubt they will do anything different, this is fiat after all.
The intro music reminded me of an old italo western and those Top Gun style beats while blasting down cliché corner :) nice! Great sound in open top and rolling shots again. I would get this over the Mazda lookswise but I would never really have either of them, because I would not be able to sit in it comfortably. When Yuri is in italy he needs to rent this one and drive down a pretty road with the wife.
What's with that dusty infotainment screen? It's a weird name for a car but I kinda like it overall. People camping in the left passing lane is one of my major pet peeves. Glad you mentioned it. Great review guys!
I take the fiat over the Miata for the sake of its potential. It would sound so much better with an exhaust. Plus there’s already people putting bigger turbos and built motors. I think the potential for power and excitement is much higher in the fiat.
And something new is always better miata so many peoples have so why shouldn't add Fiat Abarth in this list because always saw same car is boring Fiat Abarth is new so different
My uncle owns a 1972 fiat x1/9 and he custom made a wide body for it and he engine swapped it :) It is a cool car I have a video of the car if you are interested
I've been ranting about this for years...based on other manufacturers price differences between coupe and convertible trims it seems more than possible that Mazda could make a manual Miata coupe base model (but with a LSD) for around $20,000. Since it wouldn't be limited to people who have a garage I think it would actually sell in decent numbers (for a sports car).
Miata was a nice car to look at but now. I think its flat out ugly but the drive is so dame good. Enough power for its size to make it fun. The outside look of the fiat is better to me. What do you guys think???
None of the above is correct. Pronounce it however you want. Carlos Abarth was an Austrian immigrant in Italy. The car is built by the Japanese with Italian styling and an American designed and Mexican built engine. It’s basically the definition of a world car lol.
You guys never looked right in any other cars...but this one just suits you guys! Yuri in pink shirt and hat riding fiata... It seems just right. He's so cute he reminds me of Brent Corrigan!
I have to agree the review is kind of stupid because the boys get this wrong intentionally. The car is not a re-badged Miata, it's using the same châssis and interior layout but there's a lot different about this Italian car made in Japan. The only American part in this car is that the sales folks at dealers are all Chrysler douchbros. Their review is kind of stupid tbh.
just so you know, you can increase the passenger side leg room up to 5 inches by removing the foam block under the carpet that was there for the miata bose subwoofer.
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TheStraightPipes The Fiat, for sure. You can straight pipe it if you want the noise (!) or buy an upgraded Monza exhaust. You can rest your arm while driving, it’s a slightly higher ride and the suspension stays flat in corners. I’d change the badges for classic smaller Fiat ones, get a wood shifter and people are tuning these to 300+ hp (including changing turbo timing)...for thousands less than the equivalent MX-5.
This cause I’m not gay
this because you can tune it...but i will wait for the telescoping steering upgrade and apple CarPlay
2019 MX-5
This car is like Mario, looks italian but was made in Japan.
except the engine
Mario is a Japanese born Italian who looks Mexican
lol niice
@@alexander1485 and its shitty than japanese one
in Italy this machine costs € 40,000 and the dodge challenger SXT plus has the same price. Surely the dodge is better
To all those people ranting about advertising, I have my own rant to match. It costs time and money to produce content of this quality. A typical 30 minute show on cable TV has 8 minutes of advertising and 22 minutes of content. For an average 15 minute video, I don't think the advertising exceeds 4 minutes. Yes, they have in-built plug-ins but that is more directed advertising and more subtle than typical instagram models. These guys need money for gas too. Be nice! Always!
I totally agree! Though the timing of the ads was a little weird and broke up the flow of the video.
Amen to that. I hate ads, but hell, if ads support these guys to keep making great content, you can bet I'm willing to spend 30 seconds of my measly life to enjoy 17:17 minutes of awesome car reviews.
Relax... Some of us are just poking fun. I wish someone would sponsor me. I wouldn't say know to wearing and advertising. Things. Money is money
@@TheDGeneration I agree. The timing and type of ads may be set by the UA-cam alogorithm. Not sure if the uploader can control the times when they play.
these guys do it very well, without pissing me off like standard interrupting YT ads which cut in at the most inappropriate times. YT ads are the worst.
Challenge Accepted!
Fiat: 25
FIATA: 9
Abarth: 15
Abarté: 15
Mazda: 31
Miata: 58
And my favourite:
MX-5: ZERO!!
I think you win even if these numbers are wrong. It's the effort that counts
TheStraightPipes I’ll delete the comment for now in hopes others participate! If not, I’ll bring it back :)
I’m pretty sure they didn’t pronounce any of the words correctly except ‘Fiat.’ Also this was more about Miata than the Fiat they were sitting in....
If you did the Miata drinking game for this straightpipes episode, congrats, you're dead.
Fiata?
500 Abarth is straight piped from the cats back...no mufflers help the sound tremendously.
Came to mention that as well. It's bogus it doesn't come like that, but it's a simple mod away from sounding like a 500 Abarth.
Do these have the Monza exhaust? Just wire the valve open?
Only the NA Abarth 500 is without muffler.
I was going to say, the answer to the exhaust sound problem is in this channel's name!
@@HotCacahuete The 500 abarth is straight piped from factory because it has a trick manifold that keeps emissions down
I plan on buying one simply because my grandfather bought one back in 77 and still has it
Adrian Macias just do it!! Make your dreams come true👍👍👍
Did you buy it?
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I like the look of those headlights. Probably because they look original compared to other cars.
Same. That's the biggest draw for the FIAT 124 Abarth (for me). I'm not a fan of the sculpted hood though, but I like everything else on the 124.
The dust on the infotainment screen.....
wouldn't be an accurate review otherwise!@
I know have they been driving with the top open in the Straight Pipes ranch?
Yea that’s pretty gross for some reason lol
it's normal for convertibles , they get dusty
Better looking than the Miata though! The 124 is a handsome coupe!
matter of opinion.
it certainly stands out more
I have a Mini that I love, but I don't see what that has to do with anything. You look ridiculous trying to brag and posture right now. I hope your roof leaks.
And word of advice: I wouldn't have your attitude when you're parking, or around neighbours, or you'll come back to a knifed ragtop.
You have serious self-esteem issues buddy.
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Begin Rant: California is THE WORST state in the US for left lane hogs. Slow drivers refuse to get out of the overtaking lane so often here that the slow lanes almost always end up serving as overtaking lanes. These inconsiderate drivers think the left lane is their cruise lane. I'm SOOO sick of it I'm considering leaving the state on that point alone.
What makes it worse is when you finally relent to pass on the right, the left lane hog often suddenly gets defensive and speeds up forcing you to go even faster than you wanted to go just to get in front of them.
The ultimate worst is people who pass 18-wheelers at 1mph faster than they are traveling. DON'T YOU KNOW HOW DANGEROUS IT IS TO HANG NEXT TO A GIANT TRUCK?? Pass that thing as fast as you can and get back in the lane you belong.
I simply don't understand people like this when it's soooo freaking easy to do the considerate thing and move over into the right. I yield to faster traffic ALL THE TIME. I'm not any less of a man for it, it's simply the considerate thing to do.
If you're driving the speed limit and you don't think someone should be driving faster, it is NOT YOUR JOB to enforce that. It's the highway patrol's job. Slower traffic should ALWAYS and without exception safely yield to faster oncoming traffic. It creates safer traffic patterns. End Rant.
Evan J I feel you lmao pretty much every Los Angeles highway
Couldn’t agree more! It’s nuts here in Calif! Or you put your blinker on to signal your intent and they speed up so you can’t move over! Such craziness here!
im one of those left lane hogs. but in my defense i drive 10 over and if i see someone tailgating or coming in fast i move right, let em pass, then go left again when necessary
doesnt help that my commute goes from 5 lanes to 2 and tons of 18 wheelers are clogging the right lane every time
@@sam.0021 If you move over, then you are fine in my book. I do the same thing. It's those who aren't considerate, totally aloof or purposefully antagonistic that I take issue with.
Evan J yea ive had some guys that literally change lanes with you to hold you back. dont understand them.. gotta do some insane traffic racing maneuvers just to pass lmao
I have an 2016 ND, but I like the looks of the Fiat slightly more. I like the quad exhaust, headlights and hood on this car. But the Fiat 124 was so hard to find when I was looking and just about all the local ones were automatics. I ended up traveling 400 miles to get the ND I ended up up buying, but I am totally happy with the car I have.
The Abarth has a proper mechanical limited slip diff I think which is a huge difference for performance and drivability , amazing reviewers are missing this massive plus and omission over the mx5 / miata!!
Just saw it's an OPTION now, it wasn't originally.
And happy you should be
Lucky you got the miata, it'll stay out of the auto shop
The mx5 as the same LSD unless it's a standard 1.5 engine mx5 they don't have a LSD as standard
Amazing color combination!!! I love the rolling shots of the car! I like the style! You get to see how the car looks from an outside perspective :) not a lot of other car reviewers do this’ and you also point out the pros and cons in a professional manner! Love watching your videos
My mom still has her bone stock 1995 with under 100K miles. Top of the line for that year. It smells like an old Italian sports car. It's been sitting for a while so I fired it up to get the juices flowing and it's just as good as it ever was. Such an amazing car and nice that everything is stock on it. Nothing beats the first body style because you just can't make them that way anymore.
2018.5 124 Spider Abarth has the Abarth Logo on the wheel and Abarth embroidered on the seats, like a Euro spec. Solid video guys! So having owned a 2016 ND which was a great car, it still never got anywhere near the attention of my 2018 124 Spider Abarth. Changed the exhaust to make it sound much better including the cross pipe which significantly improves lag from the 1.4... I don’t regret the decision at all. Keep up the good work!
Take a drink everytime Jakob and Yuri say Miata
FeintOW 🍾🤮
Wached twiche. Call ambulancche...
Hahaha this is gonna hurt no matter how light the drink 🤣
Famoush Groush...sh...shtraight up...
Michael Chien At least you're not married to an ugly woman whose name you forgot.
Fantastic video and liking that new pedal cam!! I’d have to agree with Yuri @ 2:45. I’d rather have the MX5 because the way Fiat was introduced into the North American market doesn’t fit this car’s style. It would be better if this model had no Fiat logos, especially that logo on that steering wheel as mentioned @ 6:25. But, still excited for this car partnership (much like the AE86) and hope Fiat/Mazda is willing to improve/refine this project.
Don’t get me wrong. I still love the fiat. But I just love the miata a tiny bit more. But I still love the fiat
Rubinix Cube ...how did you comment a week ago?
Chris M, If you’re a Patreon $10/month or more supporter, you get early access to videos the guys finish editing early. Sometimes it’s released a day early, but lately it’s been about a week or more! Totally worth it because I can’t wait for the regular release days, you get mentioned in their thanks comment, and it’s a small way to support the guys!
Watching TheStraightPipes in my study center rather than doing my homework. I have my priorities right! Always hype for a new review.
You should have done some history on the 124, it's a real legend over here in Europe.
Exactly, they didn’t even mention all the design cues. The 80’s rear lamps, the shoulder line etc etc. Proper word bags those two 😊
I can't unsee every time the watch switches hands. LOL, you guys are too good. Love it.
This is why I said to try one with the Record Monza exhaust, but don't worry, it is an option for 2019! Also, it will have 2 badges on the fenders and the steering wheel ABARTH badge. Please don't say Abarte, it is A-Bart.
@@HotCacahuete wasn't he an austrian dude living in italy?
People complaining about the adverts in this video are the same ones who make a fit on extra avocado charges
Need that guac
I get a side guac and add it to my chipotle bowl cuz it's cheaper that way lol
7.99$ for a 3 pound bag at Zhers today. F that.
Nope just prefer adverts for actual watches...not some rebadged Aliexpress watch.
this car is the reason why companies are probably hesitating to compete with the miata. They know that it will be a hard fight against a car that has been out for decades. Its like any hot hatch competing against the golf.
Any hot hatch is better than a golf, it's not 1978 anymore...
iHeart GT86 {KatyCat} nah many hatches are better than the Golf in same way. But the Golf has its strength that it is overall a good car which doesnt have really bad downsites but also not many really cool things. Its an alrounder
By golf I think he means GTI. It's the undefeated go to hot hatch unless you wanna spend 10k more
Yeah but vw cars suck, unreliable. Miatas are pretty bulletproof
I am not saying that the golf is the ultimate hot hatch. Its just that people are always comparing every type of hot hatch to the golf. For example, I personally like the looks of the forte5 sx but the first review I saw had a top comment of someone saying that its a pos that copies gti. Even the elantra gt sport is a pretty nice italian looking hatch but even that gets compared to the gti. Not saying the gti is bad but people don't give other cars a try much to form any type of good argumentent.
Car and Driver tested the 124 Abarth 0-60 (without rollout) at 6.7 seconds. That's not fast, but adequately quick.
Hey guys. I have owned every generation of the Miata/MX-5. I sold my brand new ND2 2023 Club after 1 month and 500km. It was a little too small and feminine looking although I loved the Recaro and Brembo with BBS look. I just bought a 2017 124spider Abarth. Much more masculine looking, agressive and love every angle. Seats fit my body type better and the drive and handling is much more European tuned vs the MX-5. Noticed it right away. Plus it has all the bells a whistles including parking sensors. Only thing missing is Apple CarPlay but it connects great to my iPhone via Bluetooth and displays what is playing on the screen. I love the Italian design and Japanese build quality. I previously owned a 2004 Mazdaspeed Miata, which I loved except had no A/C and was not drivable on summer hot days. I have owned S5 convertible, S4 V8 convertible, BMW 4 series convertible… and I always keep coming back to a RWD FUN vehicle! For now I am happy having her hibernating in my garage for the winter months under her Mopar custom Abarth car cover. Looking forward to next summer. As they say it’s more fun driving a slow car fast than a fast car slow… looking forward to accumulating more smiles per mile (km) than ever before! Cheers from Montreal!
I’m ready for a shoe sponsor now! 😊
I love my 124, it's basically a Japanese man in a nice Italian suit! 🤣
We have a Classica w/tech pkg and MT, this is all the car you need. We had a 981 Boxster and the Fiat puts you back in your seat better w/the torque from the turbo. It handles amazing and is much smoother over broken pavement than the Porsche or Mazda. Great car and a screaming’ bargain!
honestly these videos are way better constructed than some of the shit on top gear’s youtube channel these days lol
Honestly I've seen people mistake a 124 for a Ferrari just because they have no idea no one and I repeat no one will ever mistake a miata for anything but a miata or hey is that a fiero
I have driven the 2017 Fiat 124 Abarth & a 2016 Mazda MX-5 Club back to back on test drives. From that I have thoughts on both of these cars but I'm looking at a Daily Driver. Not a weekend toy ! So 1st up was the 2017 124 Spyder Abarth & it was in the White color with Black trim looking very cool. The interior features a Red tach in the cluster which I really liked. The car has a tight shift pattern & 2 times on the test drive I stalled the car from a stop because I was in 3rd not 1st ! I was in traffic & the clutch felt abnormally heavy for a small sports car. The 1.4 L turbo has some lag to it so the throttle response has delay. It handled well as expected. Both cars came equipped with Brembo brakes. Next was the MX-5 Club White with Black trim as well looking good. What the interior felt like was a better place to drive. The shifter immediately felt better in my hand. There was no notchy feeling & 1st was always found. The clutch was super light a real easy setup on the Mazda. The throttle response is instant in this car step on the gas & there is no delay. The naturally aspirated 2.0L 4 cylinder has a great power band & every gear had real push immediately. The car felt much more nimble than the 124 Spyder in corners. Quicker reflexes on this car. The dealer was awesome & gave me the car for Sunday partially Monday ( work got in way ) for an EXTENDED test drive.
So I put my $$$ where my mouth is & bought the 2016 MX-5 Club with Brembo / BBS package.
I daily drive this car in 4 season Illinois so when the cold weather hits the winter tires go on & its ALMOST as much fun in winter. Very fun car & so well designed. 3.5 years later & I would do it all again in a heartbeat !
Why have they put a Fiat badge on the wheel? Pretty sure the UK ones have Abarth scorpions
My guess is that they are trying to sell the FIAT brand in the US more.
Different cars, look at the names, in Europe it’s an Abarth 124 spider, in the states it’s a Fiat 124 Abarth, the Europe one is an Abarth, it goes on a little trip from japan to the Abarth factory in Italy for some Abarth bits to be added, the US one is a Fiat 124 spider with some Abarth badges stuck to it.
I have a feeling that an Abarth badge swap on the steering wheel will be a popular mod.
In Europe, Abarth is a brand. In the USA, Abarth is a trim level. Americans are a bunch of cowboys...
I had a 2018 Miata club and now drive a 2020 Fiat 124 Spider Abarth, Will never look back. Much more fun to drive than a Miata.
Get a nice watch and support you guys? You got me. Keep the reviews coming!
was looking for a review for this particular car. Couldn't happier that this shows up in my feed
yuri reaction to the passenger legroom is the greatest thing on yt lol
Jakub
Another great review guys. Keep up the great work.
Your friendship and balance between you works perfectly. (Driver/tech guy). I'm not going to be one of those people to say 'drive normal cars'. Just keep your self grounded. Too many UA-camrs and tv programmes get too hooked on the ultra expensive. Please do the reviews but you have to be excited at a new 25K car as a 250k car. Pretty much as you have done here.
'Subscriber and bell' ticked for a while. Patreon at some point soon.
Loch Lomond, Scotland
A thumbs up and share just for the left lane rant! My city is the worst at it!
I far prefer the looks of the 124. I always defended the MX-5's looks when they redesigned it and I maintain that it, along with other Mazdas, is a good-looking car. That being said, the 124 is a far better-looking car in comparison.
12:14 damn
The starting price for 124 is great. 31500 + some discounts they are offering sounds very appealing. The only problem I have and that's what stops me from considering this car as a next purchase - soft top. I would easily pay 2-3k premium for a hard top version, but there is none. And you don't daily your soft top here in Canada.
I like the Fiata. It's styling is reminiscent of the NB Miata, but a bit more aggressive. I'm still not a fan of the ND Miata styling with its oddly shaped fenders, but I'm glad Mazda shared the platform for another alternative. Engineering specs on both cars are intriguing and I have to imagine normal aspiration vs. turbo affects one's choice in terms of driving experience. Hell, I'm just glad clutch manual transmission cars exist. I suspect one day they won't.
Please review an Alfa Romeo!! 4C, Giulia or STELVIO 😍
They should review all three of them
Fun fact, you can hack the Fiat splash screen and look onto a Mazda running the MZD interface :D
I have Android Auto, etc on mine.
Great review Guys. Two things about style. Styles change - true style never changes.... your Seiko SKX007 is an example of true style. Timeless. The final thing about style... at the end of day you, ‘unfortunately’ are inevitably going to be visiting your local Dodge dealership every time you want it serviced. Hardly stylish, especially when you have to park between a Caravan and a 3/4 ton Cummins pickup (or worse a Neon). Thanks for the video.
Wow! Wasn't expecting to see this tbh. Anyways, when I bought the launch edition ND Miata in 2015, this was seriously discussed in the forums, but since it was still just a rumor/concept back then I didn't pay too much attention to it. I'd say I still like the Miata better, the styling of the 124 just doesn't speak to me as much as the Miata's, still a great car though.
I laughed out loud at Jakub's face when the passing motorcyclist exhaust interrupts his review. It made me think - do you guys have enough bloopers for a gag reel?? GAG REEL! Thanks for the awesome videos, as always!!
P.S. I hope you two are having a great vacation! :)
As much as I love my Abarth 124 Spider, I would never buy a Mazda Miata. People do not know what my car is. They ask me all the time if it is a $60K to $70K car and they would never do that to a Miata driver. The Abarth just looks more expensive than the Mazda in most peoples minds...
its just like having a miata but you get that exclusivity since its a much rarer and a car that not many people know about
I have a 2019 Spyder Abarth, I got a good deal because it had 1600 miles on it. Original owner traded it in on a new Hemi Cuda because the Fiat was too small (it is too small, oh well) . I wouldn't have chosen black, but it's still beautiful. I would normally NEVER buy an Italian car. Great food and scenery, unreliable cars. Made on the same assembly line as the Miata was the reason I got it INSTEAD of a Miata. I love it!
Appropriate music is appropriate. Plus you guys need either a) fingerless gloves or b) leather gloves with mesh backs and knuckle cut-outs.
Oh god no.
www.insidehook.com/nation/the-range-driving-gloves
Tell me those autodromo string backs don't look dope as heck.
Hahaha not gloves for Yuri. Maybe for jakub.
Definitely some driving gloves and aviator glasses.
Love mine! Just got a used 2020 spider and it’s a kick. Just drove it today!
Controversial opinion: I prefer the 124 over the mx-5
How could you not anyway? Save for these two guys, of course... But they actually do look like they'd prefer a Miata
@@getsideways7257 I just prefer the styling, the mazda is too techy for me, and I like simple and classic
@@2023-Sucked Same here
Little nervous about the turbo since I've never owned one before, but to me the FIAT (non abarth version) is so beautiful I'm obsessed. It reminds me of a Maserati and small, light, affordable, convertible, RWD, manual is everything important to me in one car
They bought so much they blew up the website😂😂😂😂. That is hilarious!
You guys are my new favourite car UA-cam channel.
Thanks!!
3:26 - is that a massive panel gap on the passenger side of the hood/bonnet, even if just compared with the other side ? Right where the black joins the silver at the front.
Nope. No panel gap issues on these cars. What you're seeing is even on both sides and only visible from that specific angle.
Good looking car, great handling, excellent handling, won’t rust like my 1980 124 Spyder glad to see sports cars coming back.
They straight up should have put the exact same wheel as the 500 Abarth in here. Thick, flat-bottom, small, the best steering wheel unless you get into super exotic cars.
Your guys back and forth is so good
One would think that Italian styling and Japanese construction would be the ideal marriage, yet... Missing an inline six German engine maybe?
German cars are designed to fail money pits. BMW has the best I6 ever made and great drive train, everything else is shit.
Spend $3,500 for a complete phase 2 tune on the Abarth and you have a car with 240 HP and 270 ft lbs of tourq for a lot less $$$ than if you have a German engined car...
picked one of these up in the classica 6speed about 8 months before the pandemic supply shortage caused used prices to skyrocket. within 6 months they were already selling for 7k more than I paid....but there's no way I'd flip it. I've always driven trucks and only picked this up because it was only 1 of 2 manuals on the lot, but I'm in love. Over a year later, and even with a pretty big following here in Texas, I've only ever seen 2 others in the wild. So much fun
Alright, I tried to watch this. I really did. I'm thinking about buying an Abarth and I want to know what other people think but these two are such Miata fan boys that it's hard to get any information at all. I lost count at how many times they dropped the Miata brand and stopped watching at when they started to brag about their watches. This video should be called a 2018 Miata Review while driving in a 124 Spider Abarth.
I just bought a 124 Abarth 2018 AMAZING. JUST AMAZING.
The 1.4 MultiJet engine that is the heart of this automobile, is one of the most solid turbo engines to ever be put into production. Lately they've added smart direct injection, which reduces carbon buildup. It has a great reputation for being light agile and very reliable (yeah, let the italian car stereotypes roll in without any knowledge). The chassis is roughly the same as the ND's, only with one MAJOR difference. The Abarth has a proper Limited Slip as standart. That makes a big difference. Also, the Fiat is lighter thanks to the Turbo 1.4.
I own a 2017 124 Abarth and love it. Don't hesitate. Just get it!
Abarth 124s are great cars. Just buy one.
I bought my 2017 Fiata Abarté because of this video!! Thanks!
Remember that in Europe it is very different and has the exhaust as Standard!
I traded in my Audi S5 and bought a 2018 Abarth 124 spider a few weeks ago and I LOVE IT. It's a likeable car at first but once you really learn how to drive it's some of the most fun I've had in a car and I've driven some nice cars.
You can get a really good deal on them and they're a great platform for tuning.
Subscribed. I’m looking at a fiat over an ND2 for one reason. Autocross. The fiat goes into STU rather than STR. I think it might be a fun build to see what it can do. Also if it doesn’t work out all the suspension parts are sellable to either chassis and plenty of fiat owners want power adders. All this said I might hold off to see what they add for the 2019. I doubt they will do anything different, this is fiat after all.
Back at school again but first have to watch yoir videos no matter what
Love all the convertibles lately!
My FAVE car so glad you reviewed it KEEP UP THE AWSOME VIDS
Interesting, my wifes fiata does 0-62 in 6 seconds
The intro music reminded me of an old italo western and those Top Gun style beats while blasting down cliché corner :) nice! Great sound in open top and rolling shots again. I would get this over the Mazda lookswise but I would never really have either of them, because I would not be able to sit in it comfortably. When Yuri is in italy he needs to rent this one and drive down a pretty road with the wife.
What's with that dusty infotainment screen? It's a weird name for a car but I kinda like it overall. People camping in the left passing lane is one of my major pet peeves. Glad you mentioned it. Great review guys!
Top down screen dust
thats how the screen is gonna look in the real world
Yeah, that makes sense. I've forgotten how quickly convertibles collect road dust!
Ironically I needed a new watch LOL great stuff guys!
I take the fiat over the Miata for the sake of its potential. It would sound so much better with an exhaust. Plus there’s already people putting bigger turbos and built motors. I think the potential for power and excitement is much higher in the fiat.
And something new is always better miata so many peoples have so why shouldn't add Fiat Abarth in this list because always saw same car is boring Fiat Abarth is new so different
Finally! Thanks for showing the engine guys! Great review as always!
My uncle owns a 1972 fiat x1/9 and he custom made a wide body for it and he engine swapped it :) It is a cool car I have a video of the car if you are interested
Almost bought one but then decided to wait for 2019 mx-5 and 2019 abarth as well. Veloster N is intriguing as well.
Correct: *One-Two-Four* Incorrect: *One-Twenty-Four*
I love the new UA-cam app feature where I can just double tap to skip your watch ad ❤️
The front end of this Fiat looks eerily similar to the next BMW Z4.
I drive this road every chance I can in the summer, gave me a good laugh!
Stumbled on this channel when it was 100K subs...300K subs by the end of the year, let's make it happen.
My dad is buying one of these soon, it's going to be the first car I drive. I can't wait! 😁
Amazing first car
Yo I just got a watch just because of this video lmaoo
Which one?
TheStraightPipes The Blue Steel one I couldn't resist👌🏻
Vittorio Rossi 👍🏻
Yuri Tereshyn btw huge fan of you guys! Keep up the sick vids! Greetings from Vaughan!
Vittorio Rossi you know Adriano gave us a BOV shoutout
I've been ranting about this for years...based on other manufacturers price differences between coupe and convertible trims it seems more than possible that Mazda could make a manual Miata coupe base model (but with a LSD) for around $20,000. Since it wouldn't be limited to people who have a garage I think it would actually sell in decent numbers (for a sports car).
For me that will be the Miata 2019 ....... for sure 1000%.
I like the headlights and taillights better on the fiat.
I watched your video BEFORE Doug Demuro’s video that came out today
I did too, but I watched Doug right after I got done watching this one three times. And after that Regular Car Reviews new parking lot video.
that 124 spider looks awesome!
12:13 yuri's lack of reaction, lol
12:10 the best. Talking about hooning as the bike hoons by.
Love this car
Everyone loves these affordable sport cars reviews. Merci for proving amazing reviews.
Miata was a nice car to look at but now. I think its flat out ugly but the drive is so dame good. Enough power for its size to make it fun. The outside look of the fiat is better to me. What do you guys think???
LET'S ROLL OUT agreed
Will Eaton. In toronto here we feature more luxury performance cars on our show.
LET'S ROLL OUT ND looks better than the NC1, I just don't like the tail lights and bumper and trunk lid. Shit I don't like the rear
marc. Ha ha ha. Yes. I agree.
Thanks guys! My father is seriously considering one of these little buggers!
Dat black hood tho daaaaaaaaaaaamn
I would love to put a functional hood scoop on it and try to up the horsepower by about 50.
Makes it look like a cheap tuner car though. I'd skip the painted stripe.
I like the Fiata idea. But the Mx-5 2019 stays my dream car.
It is also pronounced A-Bart.
AH-BART, not A- Bart. ;)
None of the above is correct. Pronounce it however you want. Carlos Abarth was an Austrian immigrant in Italy. The car is built by the Japanese with Italian styling and an American designed and Mexican built engine. It’s basically the definition of a world car lol.
You guys never looked right in any other cars...but this one just suits you guys! Yuri in pink shirt and hat riding fiata... It seems just right. He's so cute he reminds me of Brent Corrigan!
Why should this be American? It's an Italian car build in Japan nothing else!
He said "American/Italian" because it's by FCA (Fiat/Chrysler)
Paul Denney but it is a Fiat and not a Chrysler! Or is a Chrysler a Italian car? Or is a Lamborghini German because it belongs to Volkswagen?
For me is Fiat Italian and Chrysler American!
I have to agree the review is kind of stupid because the boys get this wrong intentionally. The car is not a re-badged Miata, it's using the same châssis and interior layout but there's a lot different about this Italian car made in Japan. The only American part in this car is that the sales folks at dealers are all Chrysler douchbros. Their review is kind of stupid tbh.
What exactly did we get incorrect? It's an American Italian Japanese car.
just so you know, you can increase the passenger side leg room up to 5 inches by removing the foam block under the carpet that was there for the miata bose subwoofer.