Infinite Illusions | Chronozoa | Modern | Against the Odds

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  • What are the odds of making an infinite number of Illusions with the help of Chronozoa in Modern? Let's find out!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 188

  • @Egovinco98
    @Egovinco98 4 роки тому +135

    Step 1: play budget infect and post good result
    Step 2: Play against the odds with Maindeck Solemnity
    Step 3: Profit.
    Laugh maniacally

  • @MrCytree
    @MrCytree 4 роки тому +167

    *Infect player stares impotently at his decklist while Seth and the internet cackle in glee.

    • @jakobostheimer4066
      @jakobostheimer4066 4 роки тому +12

      They prob have nature’s claim in there sideboard

    • @cloaking111
      @cloaking111 4 роки тому +1

      I mean, get in those noble hierarch/dryad arbor beats

    • @kelvinliu-huang5955
      @kelvinliu-huang5955 4 роки тому

      Showing Chronozoa tech was definitely wrong in first game.That's probably why the opponent didnt concede until seeing it. Finks beatdown was the way to go.

    • @elesh.n
      @elesh.n 4 роки тому

      @@jakobostheimer4066 Speaking as an infect player the existence of chalice and blood moon make force of vigor a better pick

  • @Tehnameless1
    @Tehnameless1 4 роки тому +79

    Corona-zoa? Crazy stuff, never change Seth

    • @vinrod1802
      @vinrod1802 4 роки тому +1

      Infininte Coronoa-zoas at that

  • @tiztumta
    @tiztumta 4 роки тому +49

    Amazing as always! Against The Odds is my favorite series of MTG content on UA-cam. Not only because Seth himself with his good vibes but the content is always challenging and funny.(And i bet is way harder and requires more label to produce this type of content than just play the meta decks in stream).
    Thanks for making pass by this quarentines in a fun and smoother way 🙏

  • @anaphysik
    @anaphysik 4 роки тому +34

    5:19 "Not tricks -- illusions" Ha, nice Arrested Development reference, Seth!

  • @DimT670
    @DimT670 4 роки тому +15

    Mitochondria are the powerhouse of the against the odds.

  • @badgersauce
    @badgersauce 4 роки тому +12

    "Nice Supreme Verdict, opponent"
    That must have felt so good

  • @centurosproductions8827
    @centurosproductions8827 4 роки тому +19

    Man, when I voted for this, it was dead last in the poll. Glad I got to see one of my favorite Magic cards built around anyway.

  • @davidstokes6406
    @davidstokes6406 4 роки тому

    24:20 "I think I said its name wrong; and not only wrong but wrong in about 20 different ways."
    Every video, Seth. We love ya' man.

  • @MrShinyObject
    @MrShinyObject 4 роки тому +13

    Gonna be weird when you play almost this exact same deck in two weeks in pioneer with Mothra.
    Can't wait!

  • @ThomasJohnsen2
    @ThomasJohnsen2 4 роки тому +16

    (In a Jerry Stiller yelling voice) "Solemnity now, solemnity now!!!"

  • @totalcoward
    @totalcoward 4 роки тому +6

    I remember playing with Chronozoa back in Duels of the Planeswalkers 2013. Takes me way back

  • @thatonekidtrex
    @thatonekidtrex 4 роки тому +43

    16:52 seths gotta be doing this on purpose at this point

  • @EbonAvatar
    @EbonAvatar 4 роки тому

    "No one knows what Chronozoa does, so let's teach them a quick lesson."
    Seth you were enjoying this way too much :)

  • @badgersauce
    @badgersauce 4 роки тому +2

    I've wanted to build a deck around Chronozoa ever since I got one way back in the day. Glad to see it realized here

  • @sleighte
    @sleighte 4 роки тому +2

    Great timing! I'm about to finish up an EDH build where the only goal is to get out as many Chronozoas as possible

  • @dankurach5340
    @dankurach5340 4 роки тому +1

    Seths basics are always so on point. Nice flex 💪

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  4 роки тому +1

      Gotta have the nice basics ;)

  • @endermeap6488
    @endermeap6488 4 роки тому +14

    This deck should play altar of dementias instead of viscera seers. It allows for same turn wins and also you don’t have to splash black.
    (You might still want 1 viscera seer to chord for though, and 1 overgrown tomb to maybe cast it)

    • @blackiscolor7732
      @blackiscolor7732 4 роки тому

      Endermeap bud i agree with the first half but only cuz it helps him finish out the game... HE SHOULD DEFINATELY keep vicera

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  4 роки тому +4

      I feel like with Altar of Dementia Chronozoa is less important (since we can do the same thing with any persist or undying creature, and there are a few that are cheaper than Chronozoa). Other upside is we can tutor up our creature-based sacrifice outlets but we can't tutor up artifacts.

    • @endermeap6488
      @endermeap6488 4 роки тому

      I did say keeping 1 viscera was a good idea

  • @averagefox5126
    @averagefox5126 4 роки тому +1

    I come here for the Magic gameplay. I stay for Seth's pronunciation of card names

  • @thecollectiblecollectabill2298
    @thecollectiblecollectabill2298 4 роки тому

    normally i would care about the spoilers. because there's no pre-release at my LGS to interact with people though, i couldn't care less, im so so so so glad the 'preview season' was over so fast so i can watch your videos again!

  • @ninshjok
    @ninshjok 4 роки тому

    Love these crazy decks, laughed a lot! love the content

  • @thelunchlady8276
    @thelunchlady8276 4 роки тому

    I need to confess a secret: Whenever I hear Seth say, "It's time for against the odds." or a similar phrase, I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

  • @OnlyBadSalmon
    @OnlyBadSalmon 4 роки тому +13

    9:40 did I miss something, or could Seth have Chord of Calling for Viscera Seer, played Chronozoa next turn and went infinite?

    • @Luciferian.Latino
      @Luciferian.Latino 4 роки тому +11

      He calls that play at 8:50 but got distracted and autopiloted a bird into play.

    • @ValdisTan
      @ValdisTan 4 роки тому

      Convoke is either generic cost or the colour of the creature chrono is blue

    • @tomhourie9172
      @tomhourie9172 4 роки тому +3

      @@ValdisTan yeah, but he was able to cast it, and did, and grabbed the bird. he could have grabbed the viscera seer, since he already had 4 mana with which to play the chronozoa

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  4 роки тому +7

      We could have played the Bird and convoked, we mostly just forgot the convoke part.

  • @zachgray4767
    @zachgray4767 4 роки тому +9

    I'm a simple man.
    I see Chronozoa, I click Like.

  • @Mister_Tedious
    @Mister_Tedious 4 роки тому +1

    Nice one, just as I was about to go to sleep 😴😁

  • @lillyw7064
    @lillyw7064 4 роки тому

    Saffron Olive at 18:00 your op most likely did bauble before swiftspear because they wanted to see if they wanted to fetch or not off their first land

  • @JuanGarcia-mb8qv
    @JuanGarcia-mb8qv 4 роки тому +1

    16:45 Seth on a roller coaster xD

  • @Krossfyre
    @Krossfyre 4 роки тому +3

    At 52:17 Seth points out that the combo beats everything the opponent can do. Would be hilarious if opponent responded with Declaration in Stone if they felt like being a bit janky.

    • @beniaminstawiarski7577
      @beniaminstawiarski7577 4 роки тому +2

      He could just respond by sacing the targeted chronozoa and dec in stone would fizzle.

    • @beniaminstawiarski7577
      @beniaminstawiarski7577 4 роки тому +1

      I just read other comments and noticed you corrected someone on the same thing with settle, lol. Btw, you have a really nice name there m8!

    • @Krossfyre
      @Krossfyre 4 роки тому

      @@beniaminstawiarski7577 lol, you're right. Which now means that at least 2 cards are required to beat Seth. Pithing Needle/Phyrexian Revoker/something else + Declaration in Stone. So I'm still technically correct, though the odds of an opponent having that is basically none, unless they're playing a budget control deck lol.

  • @nicholasjohnston9737
    @nicholasjohnston9737 4 роки тому

    There's definitely something here. Like the actual combo only takes up so many slots, you've got this set up like the other chord combo decks, but it seems like this could go into a more tempo shell more reminscant of the old twin decks.

  • @Dsparky121
    @Dsparky121 4 роки тому +1

    35:25 was it a misplay to run out a second one instead of the seer, I’ve we ran out the seer it could be hit by removal but then we aren’t waiting on a land to cast the last combo piece

  • @Brando88Kern
    @Brando88Kern 4 роки тому +26

    Lol, game 2: "Uhhhhhh, we are trying to make Infinite Elementals, in Modern."
    Shit. I hate when Seth switches decks on me a quarter of the way through the video.

  • @braindeadrichie6094
    @braindeadrichie6094 4 роки тому

    Super fun video!

  • @andrewrowe1441
    @andrewrowe1441 4 роки тому

    Path on upkeep! Seth!

  • @jaydub5515
    @jaydub5515 4 роки тому +1

    Why no Blood Artists?

  • @RoxyGotMoxy.
    @RoxyGotMoxy. 4 роки тому

    Seth, can you please try to make a deck around Archmage's Ascension? Would be a grindy, silver-bullets control deck and a bunch of cantrips to tick up and use Ascension once online. Just imagine being at 5 mana with one card in hand, opponent attacks and your response is casting a Quicken to tutor up a Supreme Verdict and cast it as an instant :P

  • @jlawsl
    @jlawsl 4 роки тому

    I guess my deck also had a few Hex Parasites in it so I could have counter removal for Chronozoas already in play. They also played pretty well on killing early game plainswalkers and any other counter based decks. I ate many Hydroid Krasises the turn they were played.

  • @faceoctopus4571
    @faceoctopus4571 4 роки тому

    If you attacked jace at 49:00, jace would go to one loyalty. Sure jace has a bounce ability and you don't have the mana to replay kitchen finks, but if jace does that at one loyalty, he dies. Jace's uptick ability also does not give him enough loyalty to get out of finks killing him on the subsequent turn. You could have at least waited for your opponent to stop you from killing jace with your on board finks before scooping.

  • @AdamKeeton
    @AdamKeeton 4 роки тому +1

    Idk if this deck is in bad taste or not, but I love it. Corona-zoa....

  • @invaderzimm7871
    @invaderzimm7871 4 роки тому +5

    I feel like this deck need at least one murderous red cap. Why not.

  • @taylorbruning2652
    @taylorbruning2652 4 роки тому +1

    If only you made a "zur prison" deck my friend plays one and it's absurdly good not a lot of decks have enough enchantment hate
    plus you enjoy prison style decks :)
    Awesome content
    Never change

  • @Molly-ml1wn
    @Molly-ml1wn 4 роки тому +3

    0:27 to skip spoilers

  • @Bladerxdxi
    @Bladerxdxi 4 роки тому

    What's with the previews in the newer videos?

  • @Silverback947
    @Silverback947 4 роки тому +1

    Just watching the deck tech, I wonder why you would play kitchen finks over murderous redcap. Is infinite life better than infinite damage?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  4 роки тому +1

      I mean, we get infinite life with Finks and it scrys us until infinite damage in Chronozoa. So it sort of does the same thing.

  • @davidstokes6406
    @davidstokes6406 4 роки тому

    I hate infect, so that first game was a thing of beauty.
    Would love to see the infect player's face when you main decked Solemnity.

  • @zachgeraets910
    @zachgeraets910 4 роки тому +1

    5:08 Wheel of Sun and Moon seems better than Ashiok. Might be a little tricky to cast, but with 8 mana dorks, it shouldn't be that bad. And Zur finds it

    • @a.velderrain8849
      @a.velderrain8849 4 роки тому

      Same problem as Rest in Peace. It's a replacement effect, the card will never go to graveyard.

  • @PalPlays
    @PalPlays 4 роки тому

    Wheel of Sun and Moon might be better graveyard hate than Ashiok. You can tutor it with Zur and it's one-sided.

  • @maxsternburg1956
    @maxsternburg1956 4 роки тому +3

    Had to use the hypergeometric calculator for the lands on the infect game. The odds of you getting 11 lands out of your first 14 cards was 0.0198855%
    you did use fetches so the actual odds of you drawing 7 lands out of your first 11 card are about 3.4%

  • @jlawsl
    @jlawsl 4 роки тому

    I made that deck a while ago. I was waiting for a card that removed the counters when it came into play. Then it came.

  • @eliaswolter2955
    @eliaswolter2955 4 роки тому

    Pls Play an Orzhov/Rakdos/Mardu Warrior Aggro deck for budget magic in pioneer or modern. Unfortunaly you don’t have the battlebond payoffs or dark confidant in budget range.

  • @randomchicanery6491
    @randomchicanery6491 4 роки тому

    Chronozoa is my favorite card. I know its jank but i love it

  • @alpozleyen3375
    @alpozleyen3375 4 роки тому

    good content!!

  • @thecollectiblecollectabill2298
    @thecollectiblecollectabill2298 4 роки тому

    do u think replacing the kitchen finks with 9 lives is a reasonable idea?

  • @Crazymachin3gun
    @Crazymachin3gun 4 роки тому

    Do u think I should mainboard mystical dispute in my mono blue flash deck?

  • @Optimator7
    @Optimator7 4 роки тому

    Magnificent deck

  • @petershipman8391
    @petershipman8391 4 роки тому

    7:50 Seth trying not to say opponent is screwed lol

  • @shawnhale2631
    @shawnhale2631 4 роки тому

    Why no melira? It's Chordable. Doesn't work with Corona-zoa, but is good for the lifegain Strat.

  • @MataiBowen
    @MataiBowen 4 роки тому +14

    Say it with me! Mitochondria. Is. The. Powerhouse. Of. The. Cell.

  • @cannibal7739
    @cannibal7739 4 роки тому

    you should take out a kitchen finks or two for crashing drawbridge, the haste is worth it.

  • @iwakuralain3064
    @iwakuralain3064 4 роки тому

    I am so happy this won

  • @MrAngelofdestruction
    @MrAngelofdestruction 4 роки тому +1

    Match starts at 5:40

  • @Borkybaby
    @Borkybaby 4 роки тому

    Did vanishing take the place of “fading” ? I remember fading reading that when you can’t remove a counter then you sac the creature. Referring specifically to blastoderm from nemesis

    • @Hanmacx
      @Hanmacx 4 роки тому +1

      Vanishing was an update on Fading
      It uses time counters that can be used for other purposes

    • @Borkybaby
      @Borkybaby 4 роки тому

      Hanmacx good lookin out thanks fam :)

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  4 роки тому +2

      Yeah, it's a slightly changed version of fading basically. The big difference is that with Fading the creature dies the turn after the last counter is removed (when you can't remove a fading counter) but with Vanishing the creature dies when the last counter is removed.

    • @Borkybaby
      @Borkybaby 4 роки тому

      MTGGoldfish thanks bro. Happy I’ve been reading that right hahaha. Appreciate you Seth.

  • @PalPlays
    @PalPlays 4 роки тому

    Heartless Act seems a suitable replacement for Path to Exile when Ikoria comes out.

  • @rodeofrancisco6130
    @rodeofrancisco6130 4 роки тому +1

    I always get half my lands on the field, get settle the wreckage'd and still draw land out of 20.

  • @joev1083
    @joev1083 4 роки тому

    I understand that you can't play rest in peace in your sideboard, but wouldn't Wheel of Sun and Moon have worked?

  • @SurrealSam5808
    @SurrealSam5808 4 роки тому

    Why did you chord for bird in game 1 instead of viscera seer? You had enough Mana without it and you would have had infinite health and chronozoas a turn earlier

  • @Garymaster4321
    @Garymaster4321 4 роки тому

    Wouldn´t it be better against mill to keep more than 60 playables?

  • @DuffyElmer
    @DuffyElmer 4 роки тому +2

    1:06:46 RIP my ears in headphones

  • @maxjaspersmiley
    @maxjaspersmiley 4 роки тому

    @mtggoldfish do you ever consider running a >60 card deck post sideboard vs mill?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  4 роки тому +1

      It's difficult in constructed since it throws of your land-spell ratio. I do it in limited sometimes though, since you can add more lands if you want to.

  • @Akamatsu12
    @Akamatsu12 4 роки тому

    At 21:00 You still had a chance at ripping phyrexian unlife off the top followed by solemnity. A slim chance, sure, but not unwinnable

    • @dhalden93
      @dhalden93 4 роки тому

      Or just using Zur to pull it out of the deck?

  • @hollow3951
    @hollow3951 4 роки тому +2

    At 9:38 I feel like getting another BoP was definitely a misplay, getting a sack outlet would have won the game when you played chronozoa.

  • @PalPlays
    @PalPlays 4 роки тому +1

    1st opponent was so stunned to be playing against SaffronOlive that he just played lands and passed ever turn. Oh what's that? He literally couldn't do anything? Nah that can't be it.

  • @melissagrenier2200
    @melissagrenier2200 4 роки тому +1

    The truly against the odds thing would be to pull this combo off but also have 3 copies of heartless summoning in play at the same time.

    • @GoronRob
      @GoronRob 4 роки тому

      Melissa Grenier They played a deck a while back (using some Ally card that made wolves) that actually did result in an infinite, unbreakable loop. But since MODO has a creature cap, it would stop after a while and let them attack. Game would be a draw in paper. Kinda cheating but kinda cool.

    • @melissagrenier2200
      @melissagrenier2200 4 роки тому

      @@GoronRob the creature cap wouldn't be hit with the 3 heartless summoning chronozoa solemnity loop though.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  4 роки тому

      That would make it a lot harder for sure.

    • @GoronRob
      @GoronRob 4 роки тому

      @@melissagrenier2200 Oh yeah! Of course. Something makes my brain hurt about this one, idk why haha

  • @OGNoNameNobody
    @OGNoNameNobody 4 роки тому

    ....might wanna consider *Heralic Banner* for more beefy 'zoas.
    Maybe.

  • @faceoctopus4571
    @faceoctopus4571 4 роки тому

    I think against mill there were times you should have sac'd a creature to avoid uncapping it once they had orb out.

  • @magicguy1345
    @magicguy1345 4 роки тому +1

    Game 3 Match 3 I think you should've just played one of your other Chromozoas and taken the mill 4. You were dead to any mill spell at that point anyway, and if they didnt have it, you would have swung for lethal the following turn.

  • @aarlavaan
    @aarlavaan 4 роки тому

    Funny. One of the first things I did when solemnity was printed was build a deck almost exactly like this.

  • @rasmusandersen2835
    @rasmusandersen2835 4 роки тому

    the scoop at 21:00 was a mistake, you could've drawn phyrexian unlife into solemnity and survived

  • @RATHERfantastic1
    @RATHERfantastic1 4 роки тому

    Am I missing something? The chronozoa tokens would have summoning sickness, and they would just sacrifice themselves for vanishing in the upkeep making more...with summoning sickness. How does it win?

    • @necrocreature9117
      @necrocreature9117 4 роки тому

      They don't come into play with any vanishing counters, and with the way vanishing is worded, it's when the last counter is removed, thus, if the counters aren't removed, it never vanishes

    • @RATHERfantastic1
      @RATHERfantastic1 4 роки тому

      On second thought I read vanishing wrong. Yeah this is dope.

    • @RATHERfantastic1
      @RATHERfantastic1 4 роки тому

      @@necrocreature9117 yeah I didn't read vanishing right. I went back and read it right as you posted you're reply. Oops. Thank you though!

    • @necrocreature9117
      @necrocreature9117 4 роки тому

      @@RATHERfantastic1 Yeah! It's a pretty great interaction

  • @seanremlinger2277
    @seanremlinger2277 4 роки тому

    Should have at least one ETB land fetcher in their too, just so you can nab a basic when someone attempts to blood moon you.

  • @walrusassociation9317
    @walrusassociation9317 4 роки тому

    This deck would just be better if it played murderous redcap instead of chronozoa, right?

  • @benlittle5543
    @benlittle5543 4 роки тому

    Nice arrested development reference

  • @luotti91
    @luotti91 4 роки тому

    i'm waiting for a budget midrange or control

  • @drunkenwhaler6890
    @drunkenwhaler6890 4 роки тому +8

    Giving opponents chronovirus?

    • @grim3646
      @grim3646 4 роки тому

      Oh my god... fucking meta.
      If this shit was on paper, you tell them the deck name and they will scoop before the match starts!

    • @TheQueerLeaf
      @TheQueerLeaf 4 роки тому

      😜

  • @Alikaoz
    @Alikaoz 4 роки тому

    Never had I seen someone die to a fetchland outside of EDH before.

  • @LandOfForeverSummer
    @LandOfForeverSummer 4 роки тому

    Against mill, why didn't you put your whole sideboard in your deck?

  • @LottieSquidHugs
    @LottieSquidHugs 4 роки тому +1

    wait a minute. chronozoa plus a stack of mutations. Does it Work

    • @cloysterd
      @cloysterd 4 роки тому

      If you play Chronozoa and mutate stuff onto it, it keeps the time counters and the Vanishing ability, so nothing really interesting happens. Any token copies will also have Vanishing and enter with counters (unless you have Solemnity).

    • @gillablecam
      @gillablecam 4 роки тому +1

      The token copies will have all the mutated stuff, so big boy chronozoa is a definite possibility

    • @LottieSquidHugs
      @LottieSquidHugs 4 роки тому

      Cameron Gill CHRONOZOATRON

  • @nicho4381
    @nicho4381 4 роки тому

    I appreciate you

  • @TheSpiritombsableye
    @TheSpiritombsableye 4 роки тому

    This one came from 5th place and won, in the polls?

  • @seanclark4071
    @seanclark4071 4 роки тому +1

    My favorite part was the solemnity against the infect player, I mean what are you supposed to do against that, other than cry

  • @catdreaming6004
    @catdreaming6004 4 роки тому

    I dislike mill. When Gaea's Blessing was in Standard, if I was playing green, Gaea's Blessing often ended up a 2 or more of in the deck. Turned out to helpful in long grindy games, even aside from partially neutralizing mill.

  • @stephenhousman6975
    @stephenhousman6975 4 роки тому

    how much you want to bet that the UW control deck had rest in peace in their side board? That would also hose your deck since it doesn't technically die.

    • @jebooiii6462
      @jebooiii6462 4 роки тому

      The upside of playing jank: your opponent has no idea how to play against it

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  4 роки тому

      Seems possible. RIP is really good against us (which is why we can't play it in our sideboard even though it would be good with Zur.)

  • @TheArbieo
    @TheArbieo 4 роки тому

    Against mill would you ever just shove your sideboard into your deck?

  • @keel1701
    @keel1701 4 роки тому

    If I were doing 4 color I'd do Pandemonium instead for instant kill when the cells split. That sounds more entertaining to me.

  • @lkeasbey1
    @lkeasbey1 4 роки тому

    This needs a pair of Gaea's Blessing in the SB for mill.

  • @PalPlays
    @PalPlays 4 роки тому

    20:57 Drawing Unlife would have bought you another turn.

  • @Itachi21x
    @Itachi21x 4 роки тому +1

    I felt sorry for the infect guy :(

  • @RoxyGotMoxy.
    @RoxyGotMoxy. 4 роки тому

    Infinite multiplying things that look like bacteria? Ok this deck should be called Chrona Virus 😜

  • @IntegralKing
    @IntegralKing 4 роки тому

    Infinite Elemental with trample vs an infinite number of Chronozoas ... you'll need a 1st year number theory class to figure that one out

  • @chriscunningham6401
    @chriscunningham6401 4 роки тому

    Naming a child or pet Opponent now, so I can sound just as disappointed in them as Seth is when opponents ruin his fun haha

  • @markbn89
    @markbn89 4 роки тому

    Do B/R Infinite Scarabs!!

    • @markbn89
      @markbn89 4 роки тому

      2 Nest of Scarabs, blowfly infestation with a negative counter maker.