he also legitimately seems like he doesn't really care about making money for himself. beyond all the corpa jokes, and joking about how he would retire if he could, he really seems like he just wants to make cool shit.
I think the reason Neuro works is Vedal. Most AI UA-camrs are just trying to replace the human element, while Vedal and Neuro are all about the interaction between AI and humans.
It's also the fact that it's a passion project to him, not just a way to make money. The fact that he's willing to lose money on a concert just because it would be cool to have one, and the fact he doesn't want to half ass it shows how much he loves Neuro (as a project). Also the fact that he turned down a huge sum of money offering to buy neuro
Chrchie: (ok, im in a call with vedal, im a nervous wreck, but at least BTMC is here with me to help me go through this) Chrchie: ok BTMC how do i- *Chrchie turns around only to see a cloud of dust in the shape of BTMC's body*
"Some rando". Ed is partially the reason why Neuro took off so fast, because he showed her off in his stream while she was playing osu!. There was already a big ruckus in the game's community about her, but he very much amplified it. I don't think they were keeping in touch before Neuro became a Vtuber, but Vedal was very happy to get Ed's attention, since Ed is a big name in the osu! community (former osu! Champion, tournament player and organizer, and one of the biggest steamers). I guess they've become friends soon after that. @@traductus3337 Ed is an osu!standard main, Anny is an osu!taiko main - these are pretty much completely different games, so there isn't that much overlap.
@@Taiyo-w3t Yeah and the way I'd explain it is he was the one who hosted and organized her first birthday party even if she barely knows him past that point (OSU event with top osu players vs. Neuro. That was a while ago now, wow...)
watching the OSU community fight neuro 1v100 was super wholesome tbch, they could've been upset that a ai was taking the leaderboards but instead they just worked together and tried to beat her. they turned what COULD have been a big drama, into a fun event full of banter and tension.
Btmc gave vedal the exposure he needed and vedal then passed it on to other small streamers. I'm very grateful for that. He got it absolutely right. Vedal is pushing the technology without trying to replace the human element. If neuro didn't exist, there wouldn't be any other streamer in her place
vedal doestn use ai to elevate his content, ai is very much the foundation of his content. but he does it in a way that is very different than "ai slop" its still ai content but high qaulity ai content. Doug Doug would still be a big streamer if he never touched ai, but i dont think you could say the same for vedal. Not bc of his talent i just dont think he wouldve had any interest in it if neuro didnt blow up
@@jaredelliott5778i think they mean content here as in the concept of content itself. And not specific content of vedal. Hence vedal is using AI to elevate the concept of content he makes by implementing it im his streams
I think vedal not only putting in the max effort, and in return getting yelled at by his daughters is a reason but also the fact that he is willing to lose a ton of money for that push too. I know a lot of people would put a lot of effort into it but would not want to go into the negatives when doing things. Like Vedal said he would happily go into the negatives to get a proper live 3d concert for neuro and evil, I think that really sets him apart from even the huge AI companies that put tons of manpower into AI's. He is willing to lose money on something because he thinks the thing he wants to do is cool.
Especially since he's built so much deserved trust and so much loyalty from the audience that he and Neuro have pulled in. He's done so many things right, and I really just hope that no matter the kinds of risks he places onto himself just in order to improve the operation and make even more awesome content - we are able to be there to support him, the Neuro brand, their friends, and so on; because without them we wouldn't have all this awesome content.
BTMC has a talent for putting complex thoughts into well expressed speech. I feel the same way. I hate that some people attrbute AI to slop all of the time when things like Neuro and all the effort put into her and how entertaining she is exists.
12/21/2024, staz is really a monster, this isn't something that happened a long time ago and he just learned about it to clip it. learning how the fuck staz does this is harder than neuro ARG
Man im so gratefeul for BTMC, I and a lot of people from the osu community only found out about Neuro because of his raid back in the day. It was crazy to see how surreally fast she grew as well it blows my mind. Vedal is just the goat.
I'm also glad BTMC did this bc chrchie is amazing and I am really appreciative of seeing the app she made to see the polls and title changes bc life is busy and when we have to catch a VOD it is good to see the shenanigans Neuro pulls with those features that Vedal has implimented when we couldn't see that live before!
@raviedavieu vedal's irl friend, he is mod and twitch mod. And he is part of the the og vedal team alongside pb and... another member but i forgor. Vedal said that they keep him in the team because every once or twice in a blue moom tommy comes up with a banger idea. Now his team is way bigger with anny, chrichie, alex, etc. But he has always been there since the start
When neuro first streamed, I watched it for the novelty of it. But after vedal started involving himself in the streams, I only really watched for vedal's interactions.
This is really high praise and true facts of what Vedal has been able to do with AI. While OpenAI has been making breakthroughs, Vedal has been applying them into Neuro.
AI in general is just a tool, and like any tool, it can be used in good or bad ways. People got so caught up in the mindset of "AI is bad" because some of the companies that first started using modern AI tech did so through shadier methods, but didn't pause to consider whether it was just those companies that were bad, even though most of those companies have been doing shady things for much longer than modern AI tech has existed. AI has a lot of potential to do a lot of good things, and help a lot of people achieve goals or dreams they might otherwise have to abandon. Sure there will be some people who use it in bad ways, but the same can be said for any technology. There's some people who use text messaging to coordinate crimes, or people who use cars to get away from robbing banks. Does that mean we should come to the conclusion that phones are bad and cars are bad, despite how much they help more people in their daily lives?
Sometimes, you really need being pushed into actually doing the things that are good for you if you have problems that keep you from doing them. On the other hand, this can't be the default you expect from your friends, because then you associate them with all the negative baggage that comes with dealing with that stuff. And of course, sometimes the problems are so big that being pushed doesn't help, in which case pushing someone is _really_ bad.
Not sure I'd call it the only "ethical" AI project, but it's definitely the only AI project that makes AI likable. Sure there is a lot to like about AI in that it's cool tech and can do lots of cool things, but we don't really like it beyond what it can do, a lot of the time it's actually pretty frustrating dealing with them. It's really hard to like these other models, the corpo models are all designed specifically to be generic and subservient while also trying to manipulate us by starting of every interaction with "that's a very insightful question" or some nonsense like that. And the general "companion/mental health" bots they're even more manipulative and exploitative, definitely no fun like Neuro, they're just irritating. But Vedal managed to make Neuro genuinely likable to the point where we actual care about her "survival" and development and stuff. Great ambassador for AI. Just hope he keeps it up, he was offered lots money to sell her once already and didn't, but you know if he ever does and it goes corporate then this will be over just as quickly as it started. And that will probably happen one day one way or another. But yeah, for now this is super cool to be a part of. So don't forget to buy your lava lamp :)
My favorite fact from Vedal's success is him not taking offers to sell Neuro. You can tell much he isn't really here for the big bucks. For context, we only know that he was offered "more than $50,000"(or whatever currency). And that same dialogue, he and Neuro rather stay together
while I'm glad it worked out in this, something I want to say, because this is confused a lot and want to help people understand, being I have extreme social anxiety myself also, is; There is a big difference between actual Social Anxiety, and just being anxious about something social. Social Anxiety is being actually effected by social engagement, not just a fear, but like, high mental stress and effects of the engagement, before, during, and after. Being just anxious to socially interact however is just a natural fear of an unknown, and not quite the same, while obvious overlap exists between the two. I don't really know much about the other, but I hope they were okay after it, if they do infact suffer from that, because sadly yes it's not quite as simple as just forcing them to interact, or from lack of trying / experience, and can really mess with someone mental wise. I'm at least glad they realised that after and I'm sure they did not mean to cause that type of effect.
@zura17 nnno, fear can cause stress, stress is not only fear, those are not the same in any way. The type of mental effects and stress I am talking about is like panic attacks and PTSD. You can have social anxiety, without having fear to socially interact, the fear from social anxiety comes from the effects it can cause having interacted, such as fear it will cause you stress, and not fear from interacting in the first place, like wondering if it will go wrong, in my personal experience, while again there can be overlap of the two. It has no logic, because the social interaction causes stress unrelated to fear, but you become to fear the stress.
@@zura17nnno, fear can cause stress, but stress is not only caused by fear. The type of mental effects and stress I am talking about is like panic and PTSD.
THIS GUY IS SICK AND TWISTED
BUT TO BE REAL ED IS GOATED AND ONE OF THE MOST BEST FRIENDS EVER
ok ban BTMC
You got thrown into the water and immediatly learned to swim.
Brain Tumor Megacolon Cancer.....
He treated you like a baby elephant
Unlike other “ai bros” who put in minimal effort and expect maximal profit, vedal puts in maximum effort just to get yelled at by his daughters 😂
Vedal is the greatest showman frfr
He puts in maximal effort and then spends $10000 on stocks
he also legitimately seems like he doesn't really care about making money for himself. beyond all the corpa jokes, and joking about how he would retire if he could, he really seems like he just wants to make cool shit.
Greatest Father
This isn't even a joke, he literally had to figure out how to make them yell 💀
Rules in VedalAI company
1: Obey Vedal
2: Dont disappoint Vedal
Note: Vedal makes both of these rules as easy as possible.
Corpa
nwero whistleblower
also you get paid in shoes
and 3: If you have one, for employment purposes, give vedal your stream key
Vedal rizzed all his employees
Not good for a company 💀
Morale boost ig
Vedal rizzed all his viewers.
He rizzed them up so much that they don’t want to get paid 😂
@@tidedetergentyummy but good for family 🗿
BTMC just being glad to see Vedal successful is how you know he’s a good guy.
I think the reason Neuro works is Vedal. Most AI UA-camrs are just trying to replace the human element, while Vedal and Neuro are all about the interaction between AI and humans.
Yes, exactly 💯. This is what makes it entertaining.
It's also the fact that it's a passion project to him, not just a way to make money. The fact that he's willing to lose money on a concert just because it would be cool to have one, and the fact he doesn't want to half ass it shows how much he loves Neuro (as a project). Also the fact that he turned down a huge sum of money offering to buy neuro
Also osu
Yeah the human and ai dynamic is absolutely what pushes them over the rest of the competition
Vedal’s involvement makes me feel like I’m watching irl Dr Slump and Arale (series by Dragon Ball creator about a man that creates a robot daughter)
Chrchie: (ok, im in a call with vedal, im a nervous wreck, but at least BTMC is here with me to help me go through this)
Chrchie: ok BTMC how do i-
*Chrchie turns around only to see a cloud of dust in the shape of BTMC's body*
Man I am a bit shy too and I know I would be sooo nervous in that situation 😂
Nice redaction, it feels refreshing to read this compared to 99% of the nowadays comments
I'm old enough to be Vedal's dad and I find great joy in watching brilliant young kids working hard and succeeding. It's so satisfying.
very based, i'm glad people like you are there to see that success, it's like a form of proof and vindication
After hearing how good friends they are and this guy isn't some rando, it's even funnier that Neuro called him Brain Tumor Megacolon Cancer
does he not have or had connections to Anny, since she used to be strong in the OSU community as well?
BTMC, That one uncle that doesn't related to your dad or any relative you have but your dad told you to call her "uncle" Because they are bros
@@traductus3337anny likely knows btmc. Ed might know Anny through Neuro
"Some rando". Ed is partially the reason why Neuro took off so fast, because he showed her off in his stream while she was playing osu!. There was already a big ruckus in the game's community about her, but he very much amplified it.
I don't think they were keeping in touch before Neuro became a Vtuber,
but Vedal was very happy to get Ed's attention, since Ed is a big name in the osu! community (former osu! Champion, tournament player and organizer, and one of the biggest steamers). I guess they've become friends soon after that.
@@traductus3337 Ed is an osu!standard main, Anny is an osu!taiko main - these are pretty much completely different games, so there isn't that much overlap.
@@Taiyo-w3t Yeah and the way I'd explain it is he was the one who hosted and organized her first birthday party even if she barely knows him past that point (OSU event with top osu players vs. Neuro. That was a while ago now, wow...)
watching the OSU community fight neuro 1v100 was super wholesome tbch, they could've been upset that a ai was taking the leaderboards but instead they just worked together and tried to beat her.
they turned what COULD have been a big drama, into a fun event full of banter and tension.
Btmc gave vedal the exposure he needed and vedal then passed it on to other small streamers. I'm very grateful for that.
He got it absolutely right. Vedal is pushing the technology without trying to replace the human element. If neuro didn't exist, there wouldn't be any other streamer in her place
5:45 As far as streamers go, the only ones I know of that actively use AI to elevate content rather than replace it are Vedal and DougDoug
vedal doestn use ai to elevate his content, ai is very much the foundation of his content. but he does it in a way that is very different than "ai slop" its still ai content but high qaulity ai content. Doug Doug would still be a big streamer if he never touched ai, but i dont think you could say the same for vedal. Not bc of his talent i just dont think he wouldve had any interest in it if neuro didnt blow up
Its Ai but in Japanese ❤️
@@j-bonkers1887Neuro is British
akaMikeB on twitch has an AI as an assistant without replacing him
@@jaredelliott5778i think they mean content here as in the concept of content itself. And not specific content of vedal. Hence vedal is using AI to elevate the concept of content he makes by implementing it im his streams
Stalks
Turtle
All
Zones
BTMC legendary guy
from osu to world domination
BTMC is pure legacy for me idk what he does
Brain Tumor Mega Chad......
I think vedal not only putting in the max effort, and in return getting yelled at by his daughters is a reason but also the fact that he is willing to lose a ton of money for that push too. I know a lot of people would put a lot of effort into it but would not want to go into the negatives when doing things.
Like Vedal said he would happily go into the negatives to get a proper live 3d concert for neuro and evil, I think that really sets him apart from even the huge AI companies that put tons of manpower into AI's. He is willing to lose money on something because he thinks the thing he wants to do is cool.
Especially since he's built so much deserved trust and so much loyalty from the audience that he and Neuro have pulled in.
He's done so many things right, and I really just hope that no matter the kinds of risks he places onto himself just in order to improve the operation and make even more awesome content - we are able to be there to support him, the Neuro brand, their friends, and so on; because without them we wouldn't have all this awesome content.
A clip of Brain Tumor Megacolon Cancer. NOWAYING! 🐢
Brain tumor megacolon cancer is so cool
It's time for the world to finally recognize Vedal AI as a legitimate company
BTMC has a talent for putting complex thoughts into well expressed speech. I feel the same way. I hate that some people attrbute AI to slop all of the time when things like Neuro and all the effort put into her and how entertaining she is exists.
12/21/2024, staz is really a monster, this isn't something that happened a long time ago and he just learned about it to clip it. learning how the fuck staz does this is harder than neuro ARG
a fukin SCP
Man im so gratefeul for BTMC, I and a lot of people from the osu community only found out about Neuro because of his raid back in the day. It was crazy to see how surreally fast she grew as well it blows my mind. Vedal is just the goat.
I'm also glad BTMC did this bc chrchie is amazing and I am really appreciative of seeing the app she made to see the polls and title changes bc life is busy and when we have to catch a VOD it is good to see the shenanigans Neuro pulls with those features that Vedal has implimented when we couldn't see that live before!
btmc has the personality of golden retriever he just likes to see everyone happy its pretty wholesome tbh we need to protect him at all costs
Bro vedal got rizz without him knowing
The rizz in question is simply a large twitch following
So the friend vedal said who suggested an AI vtuber was BMTC
Neuro’s godfather confirmed.
No. That was tomyomy
@@tengir-too and who's that (respectfully)
@raviedavieu vedal's irl friend, he is mod and twitch mod. And he is part of the the og vedal team alongside pb and... another member but i forgor. Vedal said that they keep him in the team because every once or twice in a blue moom tommy comes up with a banger idea. Now his team is way bigger with anny, chrichie, alex, etc. But he has always been there since the start
@@Waisowol i see that's really cool
When neuro first streamed, I watched it for the novelty of it. But after vedal started involving himself in the streams, I only really watched for vedal's interactions.
same
I came for the Ai
I stayed for the funni tutel
THE TUTEL GYATT THAT RIZZ IN HIM 🗣️🗣️🗣️
This is really high praise and true facts of what Vedal has been able to do with AI. While OpenAI has been making breakthroughs, Vedal has been applying them into Neuro.
It also helped that vedal could have been a successful streamer on his own. The guy is legitimately funny and entertaining to watch.
AI in general is just a tool, and like any tool, it can be used in good or bad ways. People got so caught up in the mindset of "AI is bad" because some of the companies that first started using modern AI tech did so through shadier methods, but didn't pause to consider whether it was just those companies that were bad, even though most of those companies have been doing shady things for much longer than modern AI tech has existed.
AI has a lot of potential to do a lot of good things, and help a lot of people achieve goals or dreams they might otherwise have to abandon. Sure there will be some people who use it in bad ways, but the same can be said for any technology. There's some people who use text messaging to coordinate crimes, or people who use cars to get away from robbing banks. Does that mean we should come to the conclusion that phones are bad and cars are bad, despite how much they help more people in their daily lives?
Meanwhile Neuro: *spins*
Hope btmc checks out neuros minecraft server, would be cool to have him hop on once
BTMC is squared 🟦
Best way to get over social anxiety is to be social.
BTMC you are the goat bro
I feel like he literally just had to say kwebble and everyone would have gotten what he was getting at
vedal's harem grows.
Bro's everywhere wtf
Yeaa how is he everywhere sureeeeely nobody pings him and says Hi! staz!! or stares discord 24/7 or! gets from other clippers
Another part of the vedalverse lore if vedal do the ai future projects I would trust him with my life and soul that it'll be good and ethical!!
The vedalverse is expanding as always
Pog Chrchie lore just dropped
I always love the Staz content
Season 1 villain return
Sometimes, you really need being pushed into actually doing the things that are good for you if you have problems that keep you from doing them. On the other hand, this can't be the default you expect from your friends, because then you associate them with all the negative baggage that comes with dealing with that stuff.
And of course, sometimes the problems are so big that being pushed doesn't help, in which case pushing someone is _really_ bad.
W friend
I'm so happy bmc mentioned about bri'ish tutel again, I thought they'll never talk about each other! Sadge Clap
Btmc an og
Not sure I'd call it the only "ethical" AI project, but it's definitely the only AI project that makes AI likable. Sure there is a lot to like about AI in that it's cool tech and can do lots of cool things, but we don't really like it beyond what it can do, a lot of the time it's actually pretty frustrating dealing with them. It's really hard to like these other models, the corpo models are all designed specifically to be generic and subservient while also trying to manipulate us by starting of every interaction with "that's a very insightful question" or some nonsense like that. And the general "companion/mental health" bots they're even more manipulative and exploitative, definitely no fun like Neuro, they're just irritating. But Vedal managed to make Neuro genuinely likable to the point where we actual care about her "survival" and development and stuff. Great ambassador for AI. Just hope he keeps it up, he was offered lots money to sell her once already and didn't, but you know if he ever does and it goes corporate then this will be over just as quickly as it started. And that will probably happen one day one way or another. But yeah, for now this is super cool to be a part of. So don't forget to buy your lava lamp :)
Vedal didn’t fall for the quick dough.
Instead, Bro wanted the whole Bakery and I have nothing but Respect for that o7
Common BTMC W
When You Spazza It
I remember her telling this story on stream. She made it seem fucking tramatic lmao
Mr. Staz, did you know that the annotation feature in youtube is back? might be useful or something
I didn't think much about it when I saw the setting some time ago but,
can it do the same stuff as early youtube?
That's sick!
yaaaaay i contributed to Staz content!
My favorite fact from Vedal's success is him not taking offers to sell Neuro. You can tell much he isn't really here for the big bucks.
For context, we only know that he was offered "more than $50,000"(or whatever currency). And that same dialogue, he and Neuro rather stay together
I really hope that staz has a healthy sleep schedule and isn't awake for the past 72 hours...
She told this story from her point of view a while ago right?
Yes
yoo its Brain Tumor Megacolon Cancer
I didn't realize this is staz channel
Should've seen the 32k ccv HOLY
Brain tumor megacolon cancer
That's evil and genius lol
i would say this is justified glazing
BTMC stands for...
Brain Tumor Megacolon Cancer
BeastTrollMC, MC being short for Minecraft.
@@LaughingOrange fake fan
BrainTumour Megacolon Cancer
This guy looks like boxbox no, kinda the same vibe how he smiles and shit
Staz, go to sleep.
You think the all seeing eye sleeps? There’s a subathon going on!
Sleep is for weak 😈
Nice
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I'd explain first that to overcome anxiety you just do it, and only then put in the discord call
BEAST touched my SOCK hardrock full combo
while I'm glad it worked out in this, something I want to say, because this is confused a lot and want to help people understand, being I have extreme social anxiety myself also, is; There is a big difference between actual Social Anxiety, and just being anxious about something social. Social Anxiety is being actually effected by social engagement, not just a fear, but like, high mental stress and effects of the engagement, before, during, and after. Being just anxious to socially interact however is just a natural fear of an unknown, and not quite the same, while obvious overlap exists between the two.
I don't really know much about the other, but I hope they were okay after it, if they do infact suffer from that, because sadly yes it's not quite as simple as just forcing them to interact, or from lack of trying / experience, and can really mess with someone mental wise. I'm at least glad they realised that after and I'm sure they did not mean to cause that type of effect.
high mental stress and effects of the engagement, is also called fear, you just described the same thing twice
@zura17 nnno, fear can cause stress, stress is not only fear, those are not the same in any way. The type of mental effects and stress I am talking about is like panic attacks and PTSD.
You can have social anxiety, without having fear to socially interact, the fear from social anxiety comes from the effects it can cause having interacted, such as fear it will cause you stress, and not fear from interacting in the first place, like wondering if it will go wrong, in my personal experience, while again there can be overlap of the two. It has no logic, because the social interaction causes stress unrelated to fear, but you become to fear the stress.
@@zura17nnno, fear can cause stress, but stress is not only caused by fear. The type of mental effects and stress I am talking about is like panic and PTSD.
@@zura17 nnno, fear can cause stress, but stress is not only caused by fear. Those are not the same thing.
@@zura17 fear can cause stress, stress is not only caused by fear. those are not the same in any way.