just wanna hijack this comment and say that Vedal is probably near 6ft tall. Based on the height of his kitchen counter; which are about 3ft on avg, it only reaches up to the side of his hips, which is about half your height
Vedal: *looks like a twig and doesn't exercise* Also Vedal: *casually proficient in rock-climbing* bro literally has the physique of an anime protagonist - looks weak but is actually strong as hell. Vedal IRL Rock Climbing Stream when? (wearing the classic morph suit of course)
@@Slvl710 Both rock climbing and swimming would develop full body muscles actually. It's just swimming being way more forgiving to the body if you do the technique right. That's why casual swimming are recommended for people with bad joints.
A wild idea for an irl stream. Vedal, in his suit, gets to the wall without studying the route first, whilest neuro, using a drone (or on ground camera if the drones are prohibited in the gym), guides him on which holds he shall use. If done blindfolded it would be a peak of comedy for sure.
I thought the same thing. He’s obviously not gym built, but he’s definitely not underweight. My boss is a boulderer and he consistently has more ripped body than me at my best doing strength training 4 times a week. Frankly though, I’ve learned diet is more important than anything. He’s a programmer like me and we tend to not eat enough to get bigger.
@@Zei33 " He’s obviously not gym built" Not gym juiced you mean, natural people who go to gyms don't become big. You only get big by juicing. I know like 200 people who work out on gyms, I know like 20 nattys and all of them are not big, they have defined muscles and are strong, but they are half the size of any juiced guy.
@ don’t think you know what I mean. Gym built doesn’t mean big. People who strength train have a certain posture, due to a larger chest and shoulders. It’s a fact and you don’t need juice to see the difference. Further, if your goal is to get larger, then a high calorie diet is most important. Even normal people can achieve good results. You don’t need to push so much further using gear.
@@zerlichr426 he is not a twig, people saying this just convince me they never saw any tall person on their lives. He is skinny not a twig he being skinny is probably already 90kg+.
@@zerlichr426 The average weight for a person who is 5'9" is between 65.3 and 79.8 kg. i am sorry to tell you that, hope you can be as buff as vedal someday (?
Ah yes bouldering. The stereotypical software developer hobby along with photography Also Toma not wanting to fight Filian is so legit. She just want to chill, no need to beat people up
Vedal is a tortoise, and since he can fit on Neuro's head, he's pretty sm0l, so he's likely a Egyptian Tortoise, they only get to 5-6 inches in size, and therefore Vedal is at most 3 inches tall. Therefore throwing Vedal about is so easy even Filian could do it.
i had a suspicion he might be doing climbing or some kind of sport as soon as i saw his back in the cooking stream, you don't look like that while just programming. and it turns out i was right
Only thing is, programming is a very time consuming career and hobby. It’s very difficult to find the time to do that and fitness. But maybe it’s easier in his situation, because he’s not working a full time job _and_ working on his own stuff outside. It’s _all_ his own stuff. Kinda an awesome setup.
@@Zei33 " It’s very difficult to find the time to do that and fitness." cope. look at your phones screentime, if you have half an hour useless tiktok/ youtube doom-scrolling you have time for fitness. especially jobs/ hobbies like programming where you can often do it remotely. i doont know a singular programmer who genuinely does not have time to do some basic fitness (even one hour ever 3 days or so does a lot)
I've gone bouldering a single time in my life, and I fully believe that anyone who does that regularly could toss me around like a ragdoll regardless of height or size.
Vedal being a tech bro and also loving bouldering absolutely checks out. Tech bros love problem solving and bouldering is literally just physical problem solving.
Vedal is probably near 6ft tall. (In his IRL stream) Based on the height of his kitchen counter; which are about 3ft on avg, it only reaches up to the side of his hips, which is about half your height
@@PlatonicLiquidyeah I’m also between 6ft and 6‘1, but I always felt like Vedal is taller than me during his irl streams. I honestly don’t understand why so many people refuse to believe that he’s above 6feet tall
Look at Emil Abrahamsson the rock climbing youtuber. He is tall and thin but is a bouldering/rock climbing behemoth. He has a few videos testing his strength against strongmen and coming out on top. Vedal has a similar build from what I have seen.
so he has a trained Body and the mind of a "nerd" (as it was called in the ancient times xD), coding cute anime Girl AIs into existence. Guys like vedal were a glitch in the Matrix 20 years ago XD
Damn I didn't know Vedal had such a based hobby of Bouldering/rock climbing. That's actually cool! If he does it from time to time that means his grip and core strength is pretty good! 🐢
afaik filian hasn't revealed her height but shylily is 147 cm (4'10") and seeing them side by side in vtuber awards filian is almost a head taller, maybe 165cm or so?
I'm an electrical engineer and for whatever reason whenever I work with a comp sci guy they always seem to be into bouldering. I am not surprised that Vedal climbs 🤣
As someone who's been bouldering/ rock climbing for 14 years I think I can give a good estimate. He's probably not buff, but you definitely need some muscle, especially in your legs. People who climb usually have a really lanky thin build, looking pretty twink like unless you work out beyond just climbing
i think the better word for Filian would be 'lean'. She's thin and stick-like, but what little she has is muscle. Remember, she's ALWAYS active on stream, doing flips and stunt falling and breaking her gear. Energy like that burns hella calories. As for Vedal being built? I mean... bro needs to look fly in his programmer socks.
In the VTuber awards it looked like Filian was almost a head taller than Shylily, who is allegedly around 150cm tall. So Filian should be around 165-170 cm or around 5'5"
Not to be the "Ummm actually" guy but UM ACTUALLY Fillan used a Judo throw on Vedal it uses the weight of their opponent against them by tripping them over your hips, its the most effective way to drop someone bigger than you without actually having any strength.
Fillian being able to flip Vedal doesn't mean anything. Flipping someone bigger than you is easy. I was 6 in karate class flipping 12 yr olds twice my weight effortlessly, over the shoulder and hip throws. All their weight goes on your hips, etc., you don't need big muscles.
Bouldering is fun I tried it at some activity place for a cousins birthday party and it was actually pretty easy when I wasn't being a wuss and nervous about falling like If I could just trust the equipment woulda been better at it probably
Filian is a complete tomboy LMAO People say "muuh but Filian threw Vedal!" Have they as a man never interacted with any woman? Specially a small woman? They are so delicate that you are afraid of breaking them just by doing any force, I used to bandage a friend of mine, her hands were so small and skinny that I was afraid of breaking her fingers just bandaging it LMAO Vedal was clearly afraid of hurting Filian by accident, which made it way easier for her to judo throw him. Vedal is at least 1,85m.
Yeah, people underestimate Filian. How many people casually do front and back flips? She allegedly did parkour in the past (which explains why she's so good at falling and running into stuff without seriously hurting herself) and she got the energy to jump around in full body tracking every stream, for the entire stream. Also Vedal was wearing the VR headset and got caught extremely off guard. And, tall people are easier to judo throw because of the higher center of mass.
Vedal "the mountain" 987 vs Filian "the feral creature"
Ah yes, Mr. 987
the filipino man, filian
We already got that, andddd Vedal got ragdolled.
So, Filian's a wolverine, Toma's a kangaroo, and Vedal's a mountain goat. Got it.
So true
He is the goat for sure fr fr
That's surprisingly accurate. Wow
Filian is more like a honeybadger
nah Toma is more of a honeybadger
yeah bouldering would give you a sleeper build
Bouldering is difficult especially if you're a tutel.
just wanna hijack this comment and say that Vedal is probably near 6ft tall. Based on the height of his kitchen counter; which are about 3ft on avg, it only reaches up to the side of his hips, which is about half your height
@@AsnRFL He said he is 6 4 iirc.
@@AsnRFL I got at least 1,85m from his IRL stream using the counter tops as reference. So yeah 6ft+
The Boulder is...conflicted
Vedal: *looks like a twig and doesn't exercise*
Also Vedal: *casually proficient in rock-climbing*
bro literally has the physique of an anime protagonist - looks weak but is actually strong as hell.
Vedal IRL Rock Climbing Stream when? (wearing the classic morph suit of course)
Imagine rock climbing with that mask, that would be cool.
in that case from what i've seen of ppl irl, if he flexes his arm would look disproportionately muscular..
naw, from the cooking video he looked like a swimmer
@@Slvl710 Both rock climbing and swimming would develop full body muscles actually. It's just swimming being way more forgiving to the body if you do the technique right.
That's why casual swimming are recommended for people with bad joints.
A wild idea for an irl stream. Vedal, in his suit, gets to the wall without studying the route first, whilest neuro, using a drone (or on ground camera if the drones are prohibited in the gym), guides him on which holds he shall use. If done blindfolded it would be a peak of comedy for sure.
Fanart about to go crazier than ever
The idea of Filian just outside of Toma house 30 years later trying to fight her is hilarious. Like a Chihuahua just constantly biting your hand.
I just imagine it like Maji from Yakuza.
"KIRRYUU CHAN". Filian just appears everywhere for a fight 😂
Tommy helping Vedal beat the femboy allegations.
Honestly his physique from the irl stream is pretty promising, like the shape of his shoulders and back. Like he's definitely a strong otter build imo
I thought the same thing. He’s obviously not gym built, but he’s definitely not underweight. My boss is a boulderer and he consistently has more ripped body than me at my best doing strength training 4 times a week. Frankly though, I’ve learned diet is more important than anything. He’s a programmer like me and we tend to not eat enough to get bigger.
His body looks totally normal. He is neither too fat nor too thin.
@@Zei33 " He’s obviously not gym built"
Not gym juiced you mean, natural people who go to gyms don't become big. You only get big by juicing. I know like 200 people who work out on gyms, I know like 20 nattys and all of them are not big, they have defined muscles and are strong, but they are half the size of any juiced guy.
@ don’t think you know what I mean. Gym built doesn’t mean big. People who strength train have a certain posture, due to a larger chest and shoulders. It’s a fact and you don’t need juice to see the difference. Further, if your goal is to get larger, then a high calorie diet is most important. Even normal people can achieve good results. You don’t need to push so much further using gear.
@@lucasljs1545 you should go to a gym sometime
Guys be cautious with your comments, you can get called out any instant by Tommy
Toe muh calling us out is so over
Is she reading this right now?
She could be you
She could be me
She could be--
Tommy innit
Chatty Tommy?
Buff vedal cant hurt you he isnt real:
Buff vedal:
@@zerlichr426 have you seen his back? holy fucking shit
@@zerlichr426 he is not a twig, people saying this just convince me they never saw any tall person on their lives. He is skinny not a twig he being skinny is probably already 90kg+.
@@zerlichr426 Bro, go back to the vod and take a closer look at his back and shoulders. He's built like a competitive swimmer.
@@zerlichr426 The average weight for a person who is 5'9" is between 65.3 and 79.8 kg. i am sorry to tell you that, hope you can be as buff as vedal someday (?
@@zerlichr426 bro, who asked?
Ah yes bouldering. The stereotypical software developer hobby along with photography
Also Toma not wanting to fight Filian is so legit. She just want to chill, no need to beat people up
anything to take us as far away from the keyboard as possible in our free time
Competitive spirit is lacking
Yeah, that back thing makes sense now
What back thing?
Vedal is a tortoise, and since he can fit on Neuro's head, he's pretty sm0l, so he's likely a Egyptian Tortoise, they only get to 5-6 inches in size, and therefore Vedal is at most 3 inches tall.
Therefore throwing Vedal about is so easy even Filian could do it.
If vedal ended up being 6' 4" and he is always on neuro's head, does that mean Neuro is a giant?
@@MAGC920 pretty sure her model unscaled is basically titan sized
Animorph
We knew that from the irl cooking like GYATT DAMN THAT BACK 👀👀
Yeah, he either climbs or swims because his back was big.
irl shell
Neuro's stepmom stepping up again
Toma knows about Vedal’s body.
Filian wants to fight Toma.
Correlation? Coincidence? Or it was Neuro Sama’s plan all along?
*bites cigar*
I love it when a plan comes together.
I’m reminded of the time Toma ranked date-ability of vtubers and kept talking her way into moving vedal higher and higher up the list
i had a suspicion he might be doing climbing or some kind of sport as soon as i saw his back in the cooking stream, you don't look like that while just programming. and it turns out i was right
Only thing is, programming is a very time consuming career and hobby. It’s very difficult to find the time to do that and fitness. But maybe it’s easier in his situation, because he’s not working a full time job _and_ working on his own stuff outside. It’s _all_ his own stuff. Kinda an awesome setup.
The first thing that came to my mind after seeing Vedal was that he has the body of a swimmer.
@ a true Olympic athlete.
@@Zei33 " It’s very difficult to find the time to do that and fitness." cope. look at your phones screentime, if you have half an hour useless tiktok/ youtube doom-scrolling you have time for fitness.
especially jobs/ hobbies like programming where you can often do it remotely. i doont know a singular programmer who genuinely does not have time to do some basic fitness (even one hour ever 3 days or so does a lot)
@@SzaraSzaranczanot nearly close to a swimmer build...
Filian wanting to oil wrestle Pippa and now this. She really out here on main.
Toma V Pippa V Filian when?
Filian wants to fight anything that moves. She's a military trained catgirl with rabies.
I've gone bouldering a single time in my life, and I fully believe that anyone who does that regularly could toss me around like a ragdoll regardless of height or size.
Vedal is spiderm
.., I mean tutelman
If there's a national sport for programmers, it has to be bouldering/wall climbing.
I mean if you wanna work up a sweat as a programmer, it's either that or running around in a fursuit
oh god, more info on vedal's body, oh boy
freaky
Yall some freak deaks
🥵🥵🥵
Filian really pulling a Goku, asking for a spar immediately upon hearing that someone's a fighter.
Vedal being a tech bro and also loving bouldering absolutely checks out. Tech bros love problem solving and bouldering is literally just physical problem solving.
Vedal is probably near 6ft tall. (In his IRL stream) Based on the height of his kitchen counter; which are about 3ft on avg, it only reaches up to the side of his hips, which is about half your height
He's definitely well over 6 feet tall. I'm 6'1" and he looks much taller than me. I thought he said 6'4" at some point, but I could be misremembering.
@@PlatonicLiquid Yeah he has said that is he 6'4"
@@PlatonicLiquidyeah I’m also between 6ft and 6‘1, but I always felt like Vedal is taller than me during his irl streams. I honestly don’t understand why so many people refuse to believe that he’s above 6feet tall
Vedal's back is so broad because of rock climbing
Aint no way she's fantasizing about 🐢 body
Nice bait comment for toma to fish
I mean don't we all?
I just imaginef a half naked buff Vedal with the turtle head posing around 😂
Okay, this explains the IRL Back build. Previously, i assumed it was the weight of his shell that built those muscles.
I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING WITH THAT BACK. If it's bouldering then it makes sense
Vedal snapping turtle confirmed.
Vedal be like a Pro Rock Climber in his free time
Nobody surprised after those shoulders and back of his. That's a climber build if I have ever seen one.
Vedal is a rock climber NOWAYING. New lore 💥🐢💥
Now artist drawing tutel bouldering
Okay, so with this new bit of info, Fillian just got a decent upscale in strength
Look at Emil Abrahamsson the rock climbing youtuber. He is tall and thin but is a bouldering/rock climbing behemoth. He has a few videos testing his strength against strongmen and coming out on top. Vedal has a similar build from what I have seen.
Now we need confirmation if vedal is actually 6,4ft
I dont think he even intended anyone to take that serious but people are dumb I guess
Totally agree. Base on the cooking stream.
we need that one asian to find out his height
Unless proven otherwise I'm happy to just take his word for it.
@gameguy1337 same
I assumed he told toma. He is top 3 in rock climbing.
Vedalverse lore is growing and now we get the approximate height and strength of THE VEDAL. TUTLE has the great femboy sleeper build!!
so he has a trained Body and the mind of a "nerd" (as it was called in the ancient times xD), coding cute anime Girl AIs into existence.
Guys like vedal were a glitch in the Matrix 20 years ago XD
Well, we know Filian is about half a head taller than Shylily, who I think is about 140cm, so the furry should be about 155-160cm
Lily is 148cm
Vedal is top 3 rock climber
"yeah, I'm actually in the top 5 of rock climbers in UK."
Fillian: I wouldn't wanna fight me either
Damn I didn't know Vedal had such a based hobby of Bouldering/rock climbing. That's actually cool! If he does it from time to time that means his grip and core strength is pretty good! 🐢
Classic developer hobby
bro got V-taper
The fact he stated he wants to get away from tech and go live outside and carve rocks without Neuro makes a lot more sense now
Fanfic writers write that down, Vedal occasionally do bouldering and is a sleeper built tutel
Some Turtles can climb trees and fences so it checks out.
Based on the time filian suplexed him he looked pretty built if you know what to look for.
weight and height issue? how small our filipino boy is??
i mean she claims to be 2 pens tall
Prolly a average Filipino height
afaik filian hasn't revealed her height but shylily is 147 cm (4'10") and seeing them side by side in vtuber awards filian is almost a head taller, maybe 165cm or so?
Honestly people who keep pushing for twig meme are people who seriously believed femboy hype
For carrying a shell all the time I expect him to be buff!
Bouldering gives you a slim but relatively strong physique. So Vedal could both look like a femboy and have exceptional strength for his weight
I'm an electrical engineer and for whatever reason whenever I work with a comp sci guy they always seem to be into bouldering. I am not surprised that Vedal climbs 🤣
So Vedal was a Galapagos Tortoise? That's crazy. 🐢
As someone who's been bouldering/ rock climbing for 14 years I think I can give a good estimate. He's probably not buff, but you definitely need some muscle, especially in your legs. People who climb usually have a really lanky thin build, looking pretty twink like unless you work out beyond just climbing
Assuming their models were more or less real height (or at least to scale), and Shylily being 148cm, Filian should be somewhere around 165cm
buffed vedal vs. Tommy when?
It's always funny to me when people cut off clips midsentence
Vedal's MC rizz is unstoppable
Why do all devs love bouldering
just realised that’s sonic heroes ost in the background, hell yeah
also buff tutel amazing
I hear sonic R from 0:00-1:26
@ oh yeah true
@@LTDLetsPlays i think thats flying battery from sonic & knuckles, not a sonic R theme
Nice bro was looking good in his irl streams. He's got a good build
i think the better word for Filian would be 'lean'. She's thin and stick-like, but what little she has is muscle. Remember, she's ALWAYS active on stream, doing flips and stunt falling and breaking her gear. Energy like that burns hella calories.
As for Vedal being built? I mean... bro needs to look fly in his programmer socks.
Super Sonic Racing in background, jamming
tommy seems the type of person you only want to see 1 time a year because she doesn't get fun.
i did bouldering for a bit, its pretty fun
This implies Fillian is even more of a sleeper build
Anyone who is around fit people and saw his back during his IRL cooking thing... yeah the guy aint a twig that's for SURE.
We love sleeper builds!
Vedal Lore NOWAYING
I feel like filian would do muay thai or ancient aikido
MY OSHI IS RIPPED Stronge Clap
immersion breaking
wakey wakey staz start working
In the VTuber awards it looked like Filian was almost a head taller than Shylily, who is allegedly around 150cm tall. So Filian should be around 165-170 cm or around 5'5"
Flashbacks to Vedal's back during the irl cooking stream.
Now we know.
I'll ignore this reality and substitute it with my own.
I see Filipino Boy wanted to take the Jake Paul route
oh , could Vedal have talked about Rock Climbing with Neuro and thats why she mentioned it to Layna ?
My dream of vtuber boxing is slowly coming closer to reality
Not to be the "Ummm actually" guy but UM ACTUALLY Fillan used a Judo throw on Vedal it uses the weight of their opponent against them by tripping them over your hips, its the most effective way to drop someone bigger than you without actually having any strength.
Fillian being able to flip Vedal doesn't mean anything. Flipping someone bigger than you is easy. I was 6 in karate class flipping 12 yr olds twice my weight effortlessly, over the shoulder and hip throws. All their weight goes on your hips, etc., you don't need big muscles.
there was already a leak from vedal's camera from on of abandoned archive game's streams
Really?
Source?
Don't underestimate the dancer build!
My Tutelhusband is so hot IRL!
Maybe he just have suction cups in his fingers.
Vedal also came top 3 in the world whistling championship
Bouldering is fun I tried it at some activity place for a cousins birthday party and it was actually pretty easy when I wasn't being a wuss and nervous about falling like If I could just trust the equipment woulda been better at it probably
Buff Tutel confirmed
Dad lore 😂
Wait, he's not a weak femboy?
Immersion ruined. Thanks Toma.
I have a friend who looks like a stick, but is actually really strong. He's a rock climber(boulderer??).
Yep, disproportionately strong.
Nah, she has an extremely valid point. Boxing match when?
i always thought his shoulder look way broader than an average shut in slim dude.
Vedal ninja turtle build
Toma has the weirdest logic.
Filian talking like a Orc.
Filian is a complete tomboy LMAO
People say "muuh but Filian threw Vedal!" Have they as a man never interacted with any woman? Specially a small woman? They are so delicate that you are afraid of breaking them just by doing any force, I used to bandage a friend of mine, her hands were so small and skinny that I was afraid of breaking her fingers just bandaging it LMAO
Vedal was clearly afraid of hurting Filian by accident, which made it way easier for her to judo throw him. Vedal is at least 1,85m.
Yeah, people underestimate Filian. How many people casually do front and back flips? She allegedly did parkour in the past (which explains why she's so good at falling and running into stuff without seriously hurting herself) and she got the energy to jump around in full body tracking every stream, for the entire stream. Also Vedal was wearing the VR headset and got caught extremely off guard. And, tall people are easier to judo throw because of the higher center of mass.
Yeah bro, I feel like I'm handling a cloud.
When is the next WWE WrestleTuber event?