Cordoba Stage is NOT designed for using an external acoustic or condenser mic. It has two internal mics。 Its main strength is exactly to get rid of the external mic to reduce onstage feedback and enhance the plug-and-play capability which most classicals lack of。 The on-stage setup of condenser mic for acoustic guitar could be time consuming and is undesirable in a group environment。 The host should have plugged the Stage into an acoustic amp. In the past, I used Shure SM81 for my classical and acoustic guitars even on stage for better quality, but I had to carefully combat on-stage signal feedback. With the Cordoba Stage, I will have good direct input into my Fishman Performer on stage, because its opening apertures are small, its internal mics will be less impacted by the surrounding sound waves and less likely to create feedbacks.
Thank you. I own a Yamaha NTX700C and was thinking about a Cordoba stage guitar. You just saved me $700 give or take as the Yamaha is the better guitar to my ears. Note, that my Yamaha has a rubberized oval sound hole cover that snaps in place easily. I've never used it in a loud stage environment but imagine it blunts any feedback advantage the Cordoba has. If you do not have one for your Yamaha, Thomann has it as the Yamaha WQ769800 Soundhole Cover for about 14 dollars US.
The Cordoba was never meant to be acoustically mic'd up, and I've already got a classical acoustic if that's what I want to play. The Fishman system sounds better and more natural than the Yamaha. Easy choice for me.
Obviously Cordoba is not designed to play acoustically, but it allows it to be used for practicing without a lot of volume and may be useful to some. The Fishman system is very good and returns a natural sound.
@@chitarrediuncertolivello que tal las pastillas Yamaha, porque Yamaha en la mayoría de sus guitarras apuesta por usar sus propias pastillas Yamaha. Pregunto porque tengo una NTX1
Thank you, nice comparison and nice playing. It was very helpful to hear you play the same bits of music on each in order to compare. Acoustically the NTX is fuller and sweeter than the Stage. It's analogous to comparing an acoustic dreadnought to an ES335: the 335 (like the Stage) is meant to be played primarily through the electronics (even though it's audible unplugged) whereas the dreadnought is meant to sound good without electronics, but could be plugged in too. Both sounded good when amplified, but still different. It is easy to imagine the NTX would be more prone to feedback in a loud band environment. Can you please post the clips without the reverb? I love reverb too, but it obscures and clouds the comparison. Excellent work. Thanks again!
Buonasera e grazie per il video che mi aiuterà nella scelta della chitarra. In acustico la Yamaha ha un suono molto più caldo e piacevole, ma in amplificato, la cordoba è superiore. Poichè cerco una chitarra per suonare live, credo che opterò per la cordoba stage. Nico
Si ovviamente da spenta avendo più cassa armonica la Yamaha suona meglio ma da suonare amplificata credo che ad oggi la Cordoba Stage non abbia rivali, da soddisfazione già collegata a una scheda audio con due monitor da studio da 5”, in un ampli dedicato o nell’impianto PA ha un suono molto tridimensionale. Te la consiglio vivamente 😉
@@chitarrediuncertolivello Ti ringrazio, anche perchè dovrei acquistarla, senza poterla provare, dal "noto" rivenditore straniero che tutti conosciamo...
La comodità del manico è un fattore molto soggettivo, ti posso dire che Yamaha ha un manico più simile a quello di una chitarra acustica, più arrotondato dietro, mentre Cordoba ha un manico più appiattito dietro, la Cordoba sembra avere una spaziatura delle corde leggermente maggiore che me la fa preferire, visto il diametro maggiore delle corde nylon, soprattutto in prima posizione. Spero di esserti stato utile ;-) se hai altre domande chiedi pure.
I HATE that mic on both guitars, but I hate it less on the Yamaha. The pickup systems are night and day, but for my money, Cordoba's is the clear winner. Though it would help the comparison, to have the Cordoba in tune.
Si è vero, ma il suono amplificato della Cordoba è molto “tridimensionale” anche se un po’ carente sulle frequenze medie. Ovviamente non nasce per essere suonata da spenta, l’ho registrata anche con i microfoni per far capire che comunque ha un suono a differenza di altre nylon ibride tipo Godin. Yamaha è gradevole anche non amplificata.
Hola muy bueno me compré una guitarra cordoba c3m y c5 Desde un sitio en Marruecos , ambas no me gustaron tan mal con defectos de fabricacion Creo que venden productos defectuosos sin declararlos es lo que conoces una marca clásica mucho mejor que eso
See UA-cam 🤗 demo: “Córdoba Stage” IKEBE Channels: enjoy Flamenco contemporary guitar playing on the Córdoba Stage 🎶. The Córdoba is as stated in its design title: ideal for the “STAGE” guitarist! 😁
Yamaha Better for Classical solo musos. Córdoba Better for Flamenco 💃 and Popular 🤗🎶 music as it will cut thru the sound stage band of musos mix much better!
I don't use any amplifier, the guitars are recorded directly into the AX I/O sound card. If I had to connect them to an amplifier, I would choose ACUS ONE FORESTRING
Thank you, probably the best most useful tonal comparison of this guitar I have seen.
Cordoba Stage is NOT designed for using an external acoustic or condenser mic. It has two internal mics。 Its main strength is exactly to get rid of the external mic to reduce onstage feedback and enhance the plug-and-play capability which most classicals lack of。 The on-stage setup of condenser mic for acoustic guitar could be time consuming and is undesirable in a group environment。 The host should have plugged the Stage into an acoustic amp. In the past, I used Shure SM81 for my classical and acoustic guitars even on stage for better quality, but I had to carefully combat on-stage signal feedback. With the Cordoba Stage, I will have good direct input into my Fishman Performer on stage, because its opening apertures are small, its internal mics will be less impacted by the surrounding sound waves and less likely to create feedbacks.
Poxa.... você deu uma excelente aula
Thank you. I own a Yamaha NTX700C and was thinking about a Cordoba stage guitar. You just saved me $700 give or take as the Yamaha is the better guitar to my ears. Note, that my Yamaha has a rubberized oval sound hole cover that snaps in place easily. I've never used it in a loud stage environment but imagine it blunts any feedback advantage the Cordoba has. If you do not have one for your Yamaha, Thomann has it as the Yamaha WQ769800 Soundhole Cover for about 14 dollars US.
Yamaha nunca decepciona
The Cordoba was never meant to be acoustically mic'd up, and I've already got a classical acoustic if that's what I want to play. The Fishman system sounds better and more natural than the Yamaha. Easy choice for me.
Obviously Cordoba is not designed to play acoustically, but it allows it to be used for practicing without a lot of volume and may be useful to some. The Fishman system is very good and returns a natural sound.
I am with you. The Cordoba has two built-in pickups.
@@chitarrediuncertolivello que tal las pastillas Yamaha, porque Yamaha en la mayoría de sus guitarras apuesta por usar sus propias pastillas Yamaha. Pregunto porque tengo una NTX1
@@yoreydez8866 Creo que Yamaha tiene un buen sistema de amplificación. Me gustaría probar el nuevo montado en el NTX3/NTX5.
I like that he used a microphone, because this way I can at least get a glimpse of how it sounds without plugging it in (for practice etc.)
Can't do the comparison like this, Cordoba Stage is Semi hallow-body and Yamaha NTX is full Hallow classic body.
Lol i dont think you paid attention
He just did!
Thank you, nice comparison and nice playing. It was very helpful to hear you play the same bits of music on each in order to compare. Acoustically the NTX is fuller and sweeter than the Stage. It's analogous to comparing an acoustic dreadnought to an ES335: the 335 (like the Stage) is meant to be played primarily through the electronics (even though it's audible unplugged) whereas the dreadnought is meant to sound good without electronics, but could be plugged in too. Both sounded good when amplified, but still different. It is easy to imagine the NTX would be more prone to feedback in a loud band environment.
Can you please post the clips without the reverb? I love reverb too, but it obscures and clouds the comparison. Excellent work. Thanks again!
Thank you
Buonasera e grazie per il video che mi aiuterà nella scelta della chitarra. In acustico la Yamaha ha un suono molto più caldo e piacevole, ma in amplificato, la cordoba è superiore. Poichè cerco una chitarra per suonare live, credo che opterò per la cordoba stage. Nico
Si ovviamente da spenta avendo più cassa armonica la Yamaha suona meglio ma da suonare amplificata credo che ad oggi la Cordoba Stage non abbia rivali, da soddisfazione già collegata a una scheda audio con due monitor da studio da 5”, in un ampli dedicato o nell’impianto PA ha un suono molto tridimensionale. Te la consiglio vivamente 😉
@@chitarrediuncertolivello Ti ringrazio, anche perchè dovrei acquistarla, senza poterla provare, dal "noto" rivenditore straniero che tutti conosciamo...
La trovi allo stesso prezzo anche da rivenditori italiani, anche su strumentimusicali.net
Hola yo me compré una stage pero el bajo de mi me retumba mucho y me hace perder el ritmo q creo q sea le agradezco mucho
Grazie per il confronto, molto utile. Come comodità del manico, facilità di utilizzo, quale delle due è preferibile?
La comodità del manico è un fattore molto soggettivo, ti posso dire che Yamaha ha un manico più simile a quello di una chitarra acustica, più arrotondato dietro, mentre Cordoba ha un manico più appiattito dietro, la Cordoba sembra avere una spaziatura delle corde leggermente maggiore che me la fa preferire, visto il diametro maggiore delle corde nylon, soprattutto in prima posizione. Spero di esserti stato utile ;-) se hai altre domande chiedi pure.
@@chitarrediuncertolivello Chiaramente le chitarre vanno provate, ma mi faceva piacere sentire le tue impressioni. Grazie!
O Yamaha, por ter caixa, tem o som mais aberto que o Córdoba. Falando em timbre, prefiro o do Yamaha. Mas, o Córdoba também é um excelente violão.
I HATE that mic on both guitars, but I hate it less on the Yamaha. The pickup systems are night and day, but for my money, Cordoba's is the clear winner. Though it would help the comparison, to have the Cordoba in tune.
Yamaha ha un suono piu' naturale come era ovvio, ma anche più bello e bilanciato, la Cordoba in natural sound mi ricorda il sound delle Dobro....
Si è vero, ma il suono amplificato della Cordoba è molto “tridimensionale” anche se un po’ carente sulle frequenze medie. Ovviamente non nasce per essere suonata da spenta, l’ho registrata anche con i microfoni per far capire che comunque ha un suono a differenza di altre nylon ibride tipo Godin. Yamaha è gradevole anche non amplificata.
Hola muy bueno me compré una guitarra cordoba c3m y c5 Desde un sitio en Marruecos , ambas no me gustaron tan mal con defectos de fabricacion Creo que venden productos defectuosos sin declararlos es lo que conoces una marca clásica mucho mejor que eso
yamaha all day
The Yamaha is warmer and richer
See UA-cam 🤗 demo:
“Córdoba Stage” IKEBE Channels: enjoy Flamenco contemporary guitar playing on the Córdoba Stage 🎶.
The Córdoba is as stated in its design title: ideal for the “STAGE” guitarist! 😁
La Córdoba tiene mejor calidad de sonido amplificada con el prean que trae
Yamaha Better for Classical solo musos.
Córdoba Better for Flamenco 💃 and Popular 🤗🎶 music as it will cut thru the sound stage band of musos mix much better!
which amp you use? yamaha thr30AII, or fishman loudbox? which amp is better on these two guitars?
I don't use any amplifier, the guitars are recorded directly into the AX I/O sound card.
If I had to connect them to an amplifier, I would choose ACUS ONE FORESTRING
I'll take the Yamaha.
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Yamaha.
La Cordoba ha comunque sempre un brutto rimbombo sui bassi.
Finora non ho trovato alcun tutorial che lo smentisse.
Mah!
ua-cam.com/video/Iig3VJRYAX0/v-deo.htmlsi=6_ANaDuQCypWjQqA ya pedí la mia
La tercera de la Cordoba esta desafinada
un guitarrista pasa la mitad de su vida afinando su instrumento y la otra mitad desafinando. (Cit. Andrès Segovia)