The Rings of Power: How to Lose an Audience

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  • The Rings of Power: How to Lose an Audience
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    Art and Animation by Just Some Guy
    Original trailer concept: FMA Brotherhood & Black Summoner
    Music: "Enkon Hakuchuumu" by Sakagami Souichi - Copyright (C) 2015 Trial & Error/Sakagami Souichi All rights reserved.
    Trial & Error: www.tandess.com/en/music/
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  • @Azaleus19
    @Azaleus19 Рік тому +1243

    That show doesn't have an audience. It has victims! 💀
    Velma has a body count.

    • @luispinzon1282
      @luispinzon1282 Рік тому

      @@beneko1127 you son fo a gun i hate that rhymes!

    • @northstar6920
      @northstar6920 Рік тому +17

      Ew... Who'd throw their hot dog down that hallway?

    • @mattcarper9853
      @mattcarper9853 Рік тому +8

      I thought these shows saved lives???

    • @keegs2002
      @keegs2002 Рік тому +23

      Velma literally turned Scooby-Doo and the gang into soulless stereotypical body bag sacks

    • @tjroelsma
      @tjroelsma Рік тому +14

      It HAS an audience: the tiny bubble in which the creators live. These people only make movies and series for themselves and the few likeminded and will only ever listen to what those likeminded think of them. The rest of the world is considered too stupid to understand what's good for them and must be educated, that's why they consider everything they do a succes.

  • @grantmathieson650
    @grantmathieson650 Рік тому +734

    If only someone had said something at the time.

    • @andrewmcguinness1845
      @andrewmcguinness1845 Рік тому +62

      If only someone, anyone, even if it was just some guy on UA-cam, had said anything at the time.

    • @TheBlackRam666
      @TheBlackRam666 Рік тому

      If someone did, he'd surely be called a white supremacist for it 🤣

    • @JoesCaribbeanVanLife
      @JoesCaribbeanVanLife Рік тому +18

      Hindsight 20/2,000

    • @stephanc6138
      @stephanc6138 Рік тому +14

      not like there wasn't. they WANTED this. "if you wish hard enough it (their crappy rehash with THEIR propaganda of 'virtues') will (succeed) come true".
      they will continue even as reality meets them like the pavement.

    • @gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954
      @gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 Рік тому +22

      @@stephanc6138 Haven't you heard? Gravity is problematic, and the pavement has been cancelled for its involvement in causing indiscriminate harm to all persons who fall on it from a sufficient height, instead of limiting itself to only harming those who 'have it coming', as determined by Twitter poll...

  • @HoundMonkey
    @HoundMonkey Рік тому +521

    The new Hollywood motto is "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is!"

    • @TchHry
      @TchHry Рік тому +24

      Amendment: "If it has any male energy... get it 'fixed'."

    • @-dcoogan-
      @-dcoogan- Рік тому +27

      I'm pretty sure their mantra is, "If it ain't broke, buy it, and then break it until it can't be fixed."

    • @georgechapman9688
      @georgechapman9688 Рік тому +23

      If it ain't broke, make it woke

    • @brialapoint2608
      @brialapoint2608 Рік тому

      watch dungeons and dragons honor among theives. Get that nasty taste of rings of power out of your brain

    • @dumisa7
      @dumisa7 Рік тому +5

      "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it's woke."

  • @theritchie2173
    @theritchie2173 Рік тому +458

    I wonder how much of that 37% completion rate was people who fell asleep halfway through the second episode and the rest of it just autoplayed through to the end.

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 Рік тому +19

      Probably all of them!

    • @saloz9483
      @saloz9483 Рік тому +8

      good point

    • @FullFNCode
      @FullFNCode Рік тому +17

      I had 3 episodes run this way for me. I did actually watch all of it because I kept waiting for it to get better. Yep still waiting.

    • @shanenolan5625
      @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +12

      Seriously. At least 2 of my friends said they fell asleep. Several times watching the series

    • @ladyerind199
      @ladyerind199 Рік тому +20

      And the rest were UA-cam reviewers like JSG who sat through it so we didnt have too!

  • @Biostasis5x7
    @Biostasis5x7 Рік тому +878

    Imagine a world where Rings of Power was actually lore-valid, amazingly well written and acted.
    Why can't we live in that world? Stupid amazon...😔

    • @TMMReznor
      @TMMReznor Рік тому +67

      I prefer living in a world where RoP just doesn't exist. Pretty much the same way I feel about Jackson's The Hobbit movies too, after I made the mistake of watching the first one.

    • @ericjohnson7234
      @ericjohnson7234 Рік тому +17

      as the saying goes. Money evetually rots everything it touches. Like the story of Midas touch. Even if you get everything you wanted was it really what you wanted?

    • @killgriffinnow
      @killgriffinnow Рік тому +42

      @@TMMReznor
      The Hobbit movies are a masterpiece next to this trainwreck, don’t compare them.

    • @luispinzon1282
      @luispinzon1282 Рік тому +8

      why can't we live in that world? we don't deserve that world. we eternally suffer for our sins.

    • @LevattWolfheart
      @LevattWolfheart Рік тому

      @@ericjohnson7234 Communism rots everything it touches. Maoism, specifically, in this case, through ESG cartel. If they chased money we would be happy, because they would be courting us, the audience. They aren't, they are pursuing the top 100 Equality Index and forced into cooperation via Racketeering. They aren't stupid, this is how the new global economy works.

  • @BoomGiggity
    @BoomGiggity Рік тому +102

    Salke: It's not reflective of any conversation I'm having internally.
    So...what, she's Gollum?

    • @wd2989
      @wd2989 Рік тому +7

      Excellent!!!!

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 Рік тому +17

      "Nope. Not listening." -- Jennifer Smeagolke

  • @hisdudeness8328
    @hisdudeness8328 Рік тому +139

    Wait. So lying to your potential audience, insulting them for not liking your crappy product, then outright dismissing their feed back is a bad business policy?
    Who would have thought?

  • @blacksheep9505
    @blacksheep9505 Рік тому +336

    The Wheel of Time and Rings of Power were two series that had so much potential to be adapted for television. All of the content was handed to them on a silver platter by great authors. All the showrunners had to do was pick out the exciting bits and pieces to put the shows together. Instead of creating their own shows they turn these purchased beloved IP's into very boring and diluted fanfiction.

    • @RoninDave
      @RoninDave Рік тому +37

      Adapt does not mean distort beyond recognition but that was asking too much for Amazon apparently. I don't know Wheel of Time but as a lifelong Tolkien fan I could not recognize Middle Earth in the mess that is Rings of Power.

    • @TheLegendaryBillCipher
      @TheLegendaryBillCipher Рік тому +20

      Hubris. It's been the bane of Disney, it's the bane of Hollywood.

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust Рік тому +13

      I disagree, RoP had no adaption potential for a TV show. The reason? Amazon didn't own the rights to the Simarillion or LotR. They paid $250mil for the rights to a very limited amount of material to be able to call it "Lord of the Rings" without actually being able to use most of the lore. Warner Bros owns the actual film rights to the properties that Amazon wanted. It was doomed from the start. Of course, the nonsensical story and character development and mediocre production didn't help.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Рік тому +2

      ​@@colbunkmust All that money and they couldnt buy the rights to that S novel bare minimum? Is the Tolkien estate a bit restricted on who buys what?

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust Рік тому +9

      @@Thomasmemoryscentral They already sold the film rights to Warner Bros long before that. The Tolkien Estate can't sell the exclusive film rights more than once to the same property. Iirc Amazon bought the rights to the only the _appendices_ of Return of the King, and that's it... But yeah, it was a massive waste of money. They counted on the name being able to swing an audience to like the product.

  • @johantolli372
    @johantolli372 Рік тому +365

    My mom who is one of those people who have read TLOR once a year for 40+ years and she has as far as i understand read every single piece of Middle Earth text/trivia possible, she is an avid reader and also watches alot of tv since retiring. I showed her the first trailer when it dropped and she was just plain disappointed and said she didnt wanna see it because the style and tone felt off. I forced her to watch the first episode because i really wanted a hardcore Tolkien nerds opinion. She absolutely hated it, she complained about almost every single thing being incorrect, confusing or missinterpreted. She laughed when i said how much Amazon had spent on buying the IP and producing the first season,

    • @MrSircharles05
      @MrSircharles05 Рік тому +81

      Why would you do that to your mom?

    • @andrewwoodhead3141
      @andrewwoodhead3141 Рік тому +61

      Dude ! You forced your own mother to watch it ?! duuuude !!!

    • @RoninDave
      @RoninDave Рік тому +38

      Can relate. Lifelong Tolkien fan since 5 re-reading Hobbit and LOTR multiple times along with Silmarillion and several of the other later books and the first trailer of ROP did not sit well with me at all for the same reason. I still gave it a shot but the opening scene killed me - the fighting elf kids in Valinor during the Time of Bliss. I stuck it out to 5 just to see how bad it would get but the mithril origin story caused me to skip 6&7. I only came back for 8 as a view party to roast it. Terrible series!

    • @misterfevillord1588
      @misterfevillord1588 Рік тому +29

      Your mom is a good mom

    • @sovietunion6598
      @sovietunion6598 Рік тому

      You forced your mum to watch it? You should be charged with torture

  • @LuigiTheMetal64
    @LuigiTheMetal64 Рік тому +305

    Understanding the lore and respecting the fans when making a project based on an existing series is important to earn money and love from fans and potential fans.

    • @Biostasis5x7
      @Biostasis5x7 Рік тому +29

      And a good fanbase will suffuse other people into being fans by talking about how awesome the series is. It's a win/win.

    • @steveb9713
      @steveb9713 Рік тому +7

      This text should accompany any adaption writing deal

    • @Gyrfalcon312
      @Gyrfalcon312 Рік тому +4

      Normies can get into this thing that the true fans already know of, too, if you market it right.

    • @CordeliaWagner
      @CordeliaWagner Рік тому +3

      People still buy their trash from Amazon.

    • @dodojesus4529
      @dodojesus4529 Рік тому

      You can still have a bunch of shit not in the silmarillion, just dont make it THIS stupid

  • @alexfriedman918
    @alexfriedman918 Рік тому +136

    I love how Salke admitted not being to tell the difference between reality and her “internal dialogue”. Don’t think she was being asked about her mental health at that point, but the insight is welcome!

    • @hisdudeness8328
      @hisdudeness8328 Рік тому +29

      She’s never had to worry about being held accountable for failing, she part of a protected class that keeps getting rewarded no matter how much they screw up.

    • @alexfriedman918
      @alexfriedman918 Рік тому

      @@hisdudeness8328 Apparently, there isn’t much accountability at Amazon Studios anyway - they throw away hundreds of millions on trash, or projects that never even materialize, and no one so much as gets reprimanded, it seems.

    • @rogermoreno1152
      @rogermoreno1152 Рік тому +7

      I found that hilarious too. And sad. Sounds like she’s delusional if she can’t see it for what it is: a failure

    • @user-yc5um2pl5v
      @user-yc5um2pl5v Рік тому +2

      This "internal conversations" bit is either very badly put or says about her everything one needs to know. Very depressing both ways.

    • @wd2989
      @wd2989 Рік тому +1

      The funniest analogy I heard about that was someone commenting “so what, she’s like Gollum now? “. 😂😂😂

  • @CplYakob
    @CplYakob Рік тому +51

    "Testing told us that audiences didn't want what we were selling. So we declared the testing wrong and pushed ahead anyway, and for some reason, we failed."
    You know, I used to think people who qualified from business and media schools had some basic level of competence in their chosen fields. I no longer labour under that delusion.

    • @mrpurple11
      @mrpurple11 Рік тому +1

      Ironically it's now content creators like youtubers and streamers who are in tandem with what their audiences want. Also it's where true diversity exists since people from different cultures and ideologies can find something they like. Mainstream media was about getting liked by the common denominator and there's nothing wrong with that.

    • @hartmutholzgraefe
      @hartmutholzgraefe Рік тому

      "I used to think people who qualified from business and media schools had some basic level of competence in their chosen fields" ... some do, maybe even the majority of them do, but as in many other fields it rather seems to be those able to convince themselves and others of the impossible that make it to positions of influence ... :(

  • @andym2612
    @andym2612 Рік тому +43

    "As greedy as a Ferengi and a Hut love child" classic

  • @NinjaFlibble
    @NinjaFlibble Рік тому +19

    I've said it before and I'll say it again; Amazon said they wanted the next Game of Thrones. They neglected to specify which season so they got season 8

  • @DarthDevorin
    @DarthDevorin Рік тому +31

    "It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. Oh, what the hell, I'll laugh anyway. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

  • @omnianimator8468
    @omnianimator8468 Рік тому +45

    I can't wait for season 2. Listening to youtubers ripping it apart while I play video games is a slice of peace that I cherish.

    • @dinmavric5504
      @dinmavric5504 Рік тому

      Probably the last season. They may play like it's all okay, but they're shitting bricks, I expect a drastic change in writing. Either for worse or for better.

  • @darthlaurel
    @darthlaurel Рік тому +17

    Jennifer Salty getting internal feedback about ROP : "mirror, mirror on the wall...."

  • @dronesclubhighjinks
    @dronesclubhighjinks Рік тому +74

    My Schadenfreude is enjoying the heck out of this news! Serves them right for disrespecting Professor Tolkien's beloved source material.

  • @killgriffinnow
    @killgriffinnow Рік тому +32

    “Less than half of what we hoped”-Amazon after seeing the viewing figures for the finale

    • @pigeonpoo1823
      @pigeonpoo1823 Рік тому +3

      I'm afraid viewing figures were only 50.
      50m ain't bad.
      No, not 50m..... 50

    • @nightstrike90
      @nightstrike90 Рік тому +4

      And they actually think Season 2 is going to do better XD

  • @CaptainRC1
    @CaptainRC1 Рік тому +140

    "This desire to paint the show as anything as less than a success -- it's not reflective of any conversation I'm having internally..."
    Translation to English: "I am intellectually and emotionally incapable of accepting the truth."

    • @mxvega1097
      @mxvega1097 Рік тому +13

      Also translation: "My therapist is extremely expensive. Like my shows."

    • @Syaniiti
      @Syaniiti Рік тому +10

      Also "We're not talking about it, it's actually forbidden for Amazon workers to mention the show in anything but a positive light".

    • @Thandi123
      @Thandi123 Рік тому +11

      "This desire to paint the show as anything as less than a success -- it's not reflective of any conversation I'm having internally..."
      I am perfectly willing to accept that internally, nobody at Amazon wanted the show to be a failure. I am sure that they wanted it to be a roaring success.
      We don't always get what we want.

    • @cristianasoltanei7848
      @cristianasoltanei7848 Рік тому +11

      Internally, as in her wildly delusional mind

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Рік тому +3

      Tolkien being butchered by uncaring hacks is the last straw of this culture war at fans. If fans cant stand Star Wars, Marvel, DC, Star Trek and Doctor Who turning into new forms of garbage, Tolkien's works weren't escaping a butchered adaption by fan's wrath

  • @Launchpad05
    @Launchpad05 Рік тому +61

    When you hear Mark Hamill's Joker laugh, you know it's gonna be A good video.

  • @dashcamandy2242
    @dashcamandy2242 Рік тому +14

    Old League of Their Own: "There's no crying in baseball!"
    New League of Their Own: "OK, here's your Safe Space, your adult coloring books, and your Therapy Pet Peacock. The game is suspended until you no longer feel threatened, just let us know when you're ready. Actually, since we can't have winners or losers anyway, because that hurts people's feelings, let's just forfeit the game and we'll ALL come join you for Coloring Time. The other team's coach has a giant teddy bear, he says he'll share it with us, if we share our milk and cookies. Whaddaya say?"

    • @SubZero-hs9xc
      @SubZero-hs9xc Рік тому

      Booh hoo

    • @s3.14dervision
      @s3.14dervision 10 місяців тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @ToldYouSo18
    @ToldYouSo18 Рік тому +4

    Nobody talks about this show and yet 20 years later people are still loving the lord of the rings P.J made.

  • @markcarpenter6020
    @markcarpenter6020 Рік тому +21

    I love how businesses are ignoring their own test data to make these train wrecks.

    • @user-yc5um2pl5v
      @user-yc5um2pl5v Рік тому

      Looks like the big ones are led by the propaganda peddlers, and those are capable of destroying even the seemingly shatterproof industries. In fact they seem to get the kick out of doing so.

  • @azanocegrog748
    @azanocegrog748 Рік тому +21

    The saddest part about it is that the Silmarillion is structured perfectly for a TV series

    • @thehoogard
      @thehoogard Рік тому +3

      no it isn't. It's like a mythology book, not good for direct adaptation at all. Besides, they don't have the rights to it.

    • @josue.ortega
      @josue.ortega Рік тому +1

      ​@@thehoogard maybe like what the Cohen brothers did with the Ballad of Buster Scruggs: several stories that aren't necessarily connected in a timeline, but happen in the same universe designed by the same creator. Only the Ainulindale would be nearly impossible to do because it is basically God and its angels creating the world through divine music

    • @cevk
      @cevk Рік тому +3

      @@josue.ortega So you just do Ainulindale as a 10-15 minute, narrated segment, and have it be that the narrator was Indis speaking to Fingolfin and Finarfin, and then you can introduce Feanor when she notices he's been listening, just out of sight, invites him over, and he acts like a little shit and leaves. Gives you the creation story, introduces major characters, sets up the relationships between those major characters, etc.

  • @alexfriedman918
    @alexfriedman918 Рік тому +19

    Wait a second, did Salke imply there were only 2 genders with that Quadrant talk??!

  • @luispinzon1282
    @luispinzon1282 Рік тому +8

    the fact you use the Joker's mad laughter to illustrate the sheer madness of those who finished the series and their state of mind is just 'chef kiss' nothing illustrate more the madness than the madman Joker himself.

  • @Byrvurra
    @Byrvurra Рік тому +31

    My favorite Amazon Studios fuck up, is that, they were supposed to make a Conan the Barbarian show, but when Jennifer Salke came in she nixed its production due to 'toxic masculinity.' The guy that was supposed to be running that show then went over to HBO and made House of the Dragon. So instead Amazon gets RoP, and HBO gets House of the Dragon. Hilarious.

  • @sterling7
    @sterling7 Рік тому +5

    "This is a great property with a built-in audience. Now, how do we make it about *me* ?"

  • @piratebear3126
    @piratebear3126 Рік тому +60

    I see stuff like this, and my immediate thought is that if we fixed copyright laws so culturally iconic series that are as influential as Lord of the Rings can actually enter the public domain so passionate fans can create their own works. Locking up franchises for 95 years or longer allows corporate media to make over produced garbage without actual competition.

    • @OmegaReaver
      @OmegaReaver Рік тому +8

      This. For a good example, compare the pre-Axanar fan-made Star Trek productions and the dreck produced officially, ie Discovery and Picard seasons one and two.

    • @Dr.Strangmeme
      @Dr.Strangmeme Рік тому +8

      Having it locked up 95 years allows them to completely destroy any franchise over and over until either people accept the garbage or the people tell them to piss off.

    • @BillyTheCat128
      @BillyTheCat128 Рік тому +7

      100% this! At this point I'm convinced that they only try to protect the copyright of those franchises just so they can control the narrative. They just know that if the fans would be let free with some of these franchises, their creations would run circles around whatever corporate media would ever even be able to think of- let alone produce. It's for this reason why I believe in: "Death of the author, +10 years grace period, after that: it's Public Domain" There's no reason a company should hold the rights over a franchise whose OG author has long since turned to dust.

    • @nathanperquin9910
      @nathanperquin9910 Рік тому +4

      the opposite is also true , the previous rights owner managed to safeguard this franchise forever only to then have someone else sell it to amazon so they could butcher it. there should be strict stipulations to how franchises should be handled, but i can agree that massive corpos should not be allowed the reigns to products they do not care about

    • @DonVigaDeFierro
      @DonVigaDeFierro Рік тому +2

      Thank Disney for that. It's very curious how every time Mickey Mouse's copyright was about to expire, copyright laws changed...
      Now the character will never enter the public domain as long as it "continues to be used commercially by its owner".

  • @Goldenspiderducck
    @Goldenspiderducck Рік тому +17

    6:17 It’s also important to note that the original A League of Their Own was really about the relationship between two sisters - Dottie and Kit. Any political or social issues that arose were highlighted because that’s the world the sisters lived in. Whether it was sexism, racism, or even the War, these things came into focus as a backdrop for the rivalry between the two sisters. In short, Art Before Ideology. All art is political, but art must come first if it is to be effective. And that’s why the movie ALOTO is beloved….and the tv series is not.

  • @Carcerian
    @Carcerian Рік тому +7

    By "conversations internally" i think she means the same kind that Smiegel had when Gollum was talking in his head? "Filthy stinking Bigotsesss, they hates usssss!"

  • @onequickthing8950
    @onequickthing8950 Рік тому +3

    It's like Ishtar, where nobody had the guts to tell the first female comedy director that she was stinking up the place.

  • @MasticinaAkicta
    @MasticinaAkicta Рік тому +25

    Yeah I like it when they say "We know the first wasn't liked that much but TRUST US the second one will be better.."
    In creating media you have a short chance to hook viewers/readers/gamers. You need to do this early enough. And RoP is big, long, and didn't go anywhere quick.
    The only way to fix is, is to burn it.. forget it existed, and start from scratch! With better writers!

    • @hisdudeness8328
      @hisdudeness8328 Рік тому +5

      Kind of like the Witcher.
      We promise season two will be way more accurate to the lore.
      Later…
      Yeah, we lied about season two. But trust us! Season three will really be true to the lore, we’re going to give the fans exactly what they want. Just please come back and give us another chance.

    • @Syaniiti
      @Syaniiti Рік тому +5

      Aaahh, season 2 of the Witcher, the reason for my cancellation of my Netflix subscription.

  • @badddkattt
    @badddkattt Рік тому +12

    I’ve been a Tolkien fan since about 1960 I found an old hard cover copy of The Hobbit in what in my small private school’s attic it must have been a library at some point, and have been a fan ever since.
    I had been excited about a new Tolkien big budget series. Fortunately UA-cam critics gave me a heads up on how Amazon was going to and was vandalizing and wokifing Tolkien’s work and I avoided watching even one minute, and have avoided the mind poison.
    Likewise I was a huge Star Trek fan from its original series airing and and went to two cons, and watched all the shows… until the Discovery and have not watched any of the new shows…I don’t want these counterfeits to poison my memories and the feel of Roddenberry’s creations.

  • @alanansara2190
    @alanansara2190 Рік тому +9

    "Relying on data is soul crushing"....You mean the data that shows how many people watch your show? Which has a direct correlation to how much money Amazon makes on your show? Which should, but apparently does not, have a direct correlation to your career? I'm thinking I see the flaw in this business model Amazon.

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh Рік тому +21

    When I was a kid, the "A League of Their Own" film came out, and even though I had no particular interest in the plight of 1940s women I was a baseball fan, so I saw the film. It was the baseball that hooked me in, and entertaining performances from the actors and good story that kept me entertained. But despite my lack of interest in the topic going in, I learned a little something about the misogyny women of the era faced, and the lack of respect women athletes were still dealing with at the time, and even into today. In other words, In other words, art can be used to educate people--even spastic young boys--if it's also entertaining and has something to draw their attention and interest in the first place. But if you loudly and proudly declare from the outset that your film about women baseball players is actually about lesbians who play baseball, you're going to immediately lose the majority of the potential audience. Amazon and Hollywood in general could have their cake and eat it too, i.e., make films or TV shows that were both financially successful and promoted a sociopolitical message--it's been done many, many times before--but the producers of said films and TV shows have decided that the sociopolitical message should be enough; demanding that it also be entertaining makes someone a racist homophobic bigot, and they shouldn't have to cater to THOSE people. Because they BELIEVE in their show.

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow Рік тому +1

      the issues female athletes face today isnt the same as 1943... the issues they face is they are far less entertaining than their male counterparts that even the people who cried for them to have an arena cant be bothered to watch a game.

    • @krisrhood2127
      @krisrhood2127 Рік тому

      Plus it reinforces a stereotype

    • @sherrig2338
      @sherrig2338 Рік тому

      WELL SAID ❤

  • @eddiewilkinson9794
    @eddiewilkinson9794 Рік тому +2

    Love child of Ferengi & Hutt, you are killin' me

  • @michaellombardi5831
    @michaellombardi5831 Рік тому +2

    "Relying on data is soul crushing. " Whomever said this should work at any company, anywhere, ever.

  • @Tallacus
    @Tallacus Рік тому +8

    As an Amazon Employee and as a High Fantasy lover, this makes me happy. The company is going through some financial trouble with the layoffs and the recession as we have our hours and shifts cut as the customers are driven away because Amazon instilled a $15 delivery fee to make up for lost. All the while I heard the President of Amazon Movie and TV studios spends the company's money like no tomorrow while we in the warehouses barely get any healthcare. Amazon doesn't prioritize us who toil away in the warehouse.

    • @saralotti7174
      @saralotti7174 Рік тому +1

      Serfs are never prioritized until they rebel 😉

  • @RoTenken
    @RoTenken Рік тому +12

    That intro was chef's kiss editing. Great Job!!!

  • @Arvyn992
    @Arvyn992 Рік тому +11

    I like the Joker laugh at the beginning and it fit very well

  • @legosaurg7979
    @legosaurg7979 Рік тому +11

    5:08 Greedier than a Ferengi and Hutt Love Child
    Now that’s a sentence.

    • @nievesdarling
      @nievesdarling Рік тому +1

      It's forming an image that's going to haunt my dreams tonight I just know it.

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow Рік тому +1

      a fat slug creature with huge dumbo ears living in a lair filled with so much gold and gold pressed latinum to make every dragon in fiction jealous.

  • @storm0fcrows274
    @storm0fcrows274 Рік тому +70

    I feel like a lot of this could have been fixed if someone seriously the people sat the people at Amazon down and asked ‘but why?’

    • @kbo572
      @kbo572 Рік тому +7

      "Because, I need to check the boxes"
      - Writing staff

    • @ahoramazda6864
      @ahoramazda6864 Рік тому +5

      I think sometimes it's easier to start from scratch than to try to fix a mess. Because this show is terrible from head to toe, even if you forget that Tolkien exists (which is impossible, given that without a core audience, the work would not have received such attention and no one would have adapted it even in such a terrible way) Galadriel is terrible, and the actress who plays her twitches like she's possessed by demons or ate a stale burrito and then somehow took the subway train and realized too late that it was a mistake. Worse than Galadriel is only all of the dialogues in the whole show. The series can't have such terrible dialogues because that's what the viewer will hear 80% of the time.

    • @nightstrike90
      @nightstrike90 Рік тому +6

      There's an easy fix for ALL of this, stop prioritizing Wokeness, Diversity, Girl Power, Feminism, and White Men Are All Evil and just focus on making a good show! That's why The Legend of Vox Machina is so damn good, the story and characters come first, then the focus on individual traits once you're well acquainted with them.

    • @ytsuxmuhd4998
      @ytsuxmuhd4998 Рік тому

      They did. The directors told him to screw off and stop asking questions.

  • @CrunchyNorbert
    @CrunchyNorbert Рік тому +17

    My sisters pretty bluepilled but also a big tolkien fan and she gave up pretty quick on it

  • @rockencook
    @rockencook Рік тому +31

    We know these big corporations and especially Amazon are data driven. Apparently Amazon executives are not able to translate their Zettabytes of data into an experienced and talented production. Although I would suggest that their AI could have taken all that data and written a better script and generated more interesting and engaging onscreen characters. Certainly wouldn't have been any worse.

    • @vic_1726
      @vic_1726 Рік тому +4

      Data was actually correct in what audience want. They just chose to ignore it in favor of their ideology.

    • @matthewmosier8439
      @matthewmosier8439 Рік тому +1

      One theory that I've heard is that RoP was written by an ai. At least the dialogue. I think that may be closer to the truth than it appears on the surface to be.

  • @killgriffinnow
    @killgriffinnow Рік тому +60

    Amazon did not destroy Tolkien’s legacy. Tolkien destroyed Amazon’s legacy.

    • @RoninDave
      @RoninDave Рік тому +10

      too true. Tolkien will long outlive this mess as most will people will have forgotten it ever existed and hell that's proven by the fact few saw it to the end anyway!

    • @TheBombanater
      @TheBombanater Рік тому +5

      It also helps that if your interested in Canon. Only the books, and Tolkien letters are Canon. Even his own son wouldn't change or add to his work aside from clarification on his father's letters

  • @SoldierSpiderx
    @SoldierSpiderx Рік тому +6

    Saw a video today about The Rings of Power. Apparently, one of the reasons RoP was so expensive is because Amazon had hired Marketing Research firms to check how popular every decision made for RoP would be for every stage of production. And then the producers ignored everything said Research firms told them and doubled down on all the woke elements of the show.

    • @glanni
      @glanni Рік тому +3

      Wow. I shouldn't be shocked, and yet I can't help but facepalm
      No wonder it looks so cheap lmao

    • @SoldierSpiderx
      @SoldierSpiderx Рік тому +4

      @@glanni lol yea the fact they told them what the fan wanted and they complete ignore it and went full woke and now they act surprised

    • @user-yc5um2pl5v
      @user-yc5um2pl5v Рік тому

      It's like nobody learned anything from the Soviet Union experience. Countless projects driven by ideological goals only, ignoring any expert advise, scientific evidence or even the Nature itself failed badly, more often than not leaving long-lasting consequences. You'd think that should teach even those that adhere to this ideology - but nooo, no way, we'll do it again and again thinking we'll succeed sometime. It's like they're beating their collective head against the brick wall in hopes to bring it down. You know what'll happen.

  • @tyger223
    @tyger223 Рік тому +1

    Its been wild watching your content for years and now finally you've grown up enough for your voice to finally drop.

  • @MajinOtaku83
    @MajinOtaku83 Рік тому +3

    The opening just said everything it needed to about the situation. Epic :)

  • @CorgiAvenger
    @CorgiAvenger Рік тому +6

    First! And...that series was an effrontery.

  • @laurelvanwilligen9787
    @laurelvanwilligen9787 Рік тому +4

    Yeah, we all have internal discussions. Often on the order of "Uh, oh, did I F-up on this one? Am I still going to have a job?" That might be one you want to pay close attention to, Jen.

  • @UPTAUT
    @UPTAUT Рік тому +1

    Loving your content, brother.

  • @Real_MisterSir
    @Real_MisterSir Рік тому +2

    Everyone: quits ROP after 1-3 episodes
    The entirety of all content creators: "We shall milk this to the end of humanity"

  • @SuperDarknut
    @SuperDarknut Рік тому +2

    Well...at least League of Their Own didn't say "Oh all these actual real women were secretly gay"

  • @catandrobbyflores
    @catandrobbyflores Рік тому +1

    I did not need the mental picture of a Hut/Ferengi child in my head. It's now lurking waiting to strike.

  • @deepfriedsammich
    @deepfriedsammich Рік тому +3

    "...would be greedier than a Ferengi and Hutt love-child.." :D

  • @sokandueler9578
    @sokandueler9578 Рік тому

    Dude, sick new intro. Love it.

  • @Perktube1
    @Perktube1 Рік тому

    Hadn't seen you in a while. Welcome back to my recommendeds.

  • @Jeff-cn9up
    @Jeff-cn9up Рік тому +2

    Salke seems truly incompetent.
    So incompetent that she has no idea how incompetent she is.

  • @broccolibeater
    @broccolibeater Рік тому +1

    you have to consider that there are a ton of ppl watching this mess to the end and still think its a total disaster. dont think for a second that watching it equates a satisfied costumer.

  • @tomasz9429
    @tomasz9429 Рік тому +10

    All this show did well was uniting Tolkien fans around the world in defense of the greatest fantasy universe ever created. For this, I thank Papa Bezos for dishing out his pesos.

  • @ninja51n
    @ninja51n Рік тому

    New intro is magnific! Fire baby!

  • @johnprime1147
    @johnprime1147 Рік тому +5

    I forgot this show existed. And my god Just some Guy. Did you finally hit Pubrity?

  • @thegoldavenger.3829
    @thegoldavenger.3829 Рік тому +1

    Salke having a disassociation between what’s actually being said and what she’s telling herself without trying to reconcile them, yeah there’s a term for that

  • @elnurgling
    @elnurgling Рік тому +3

    Judging by the quality of the show's writing and characters, the only person who put any effort into reading the source material was tOlkIeN pRoFeSsOR Corey Olsen when he desperately searched through Tolkien's most obscure notes to find excuses for Dwarven women not having beards.

  • @JamesLaserpimpWalsh
    @JamesLaserpimpWalsh Рік тому

    Fanx for the vid man. I like your view on things

  • @chamberkun
    @chamberkun Рік тому +3

    Oh this'll be good

  • @Unknown.NotRegistered
    @Unknown.NotRegistered Рік тому +1

    A Ferengi and a Hutt love child would be the perfect businessperson.
    Pure unadulterated ruthless greed.
    Just don't think too much on what it would look like.

  • @motherplayer
    @motherplayer Рік тому +5

    Return of The King is returning to theaters next week, and there is more excitement for that than there was for the majority of Rings of Power.

  • @storyteller2882
    @storyteller2882 Рік тому +3

    I finished. Last night. Two or three weeks of break between the ridiculous penultimate episode and the underwhelming finale episode. Watched it with my son who didn't predict Sauron being who he was--because it made absolutely no sense. ("He's a human? What?" Then, "He was never human? Why was he on that raft? What's he been doing all these years?") I had the prescient advantage of having seen some videos like yours. Yeah, I kind of hate watched. But gaining those kinds of views shouldn't be a flex on the part of Amazon.

  • @BlackHei711
    @BlackHei711 Рік тому +4

    The problem is Rings of Power Season 2 is going to get great reviews, and Amazon is going to say it's because the show is doing better, when in reality it's because all the Tolkien fans didn't bother watching it.

  • @Ragewheel
    @Ragewheel Рік тому +2

    That's a lot of cash down the toilet.

  • @nom_nom_nom_
    @nom_nom_nom_ Рік тому +2

    Friend of mine told me he likes it but when i asked him to give me one character's name that he didnt already know beforehand from LotR he couldnt

  • @Tjekkiman
    @Tjekkiman Рік тому

    Hey Guy. As always - Great content! I'm sorry this is not a concentrated critique of your main topic, I was just windering ( because your intros get better and better) if you would like to get the music to peak and then end instead of fading out in the end? Let me know! I would love to do that for you. Looking at your intro, obviously you know how to do that yourself, I just wondered a little. Anyway, great topic as always!

  • @DIYDumpRat
    @DIYDumpRat Рік тому +5

    Yep sounds about right. I stopped torrenting it after about ep.3

  • @andrewmcguinness1845
    @andrewmcguinness1845 Рік тому +1

    Spot on commentary!

  • @supershadowman6478
    @supershadowman6478 Рік тому +1

    That beginning had me rolling 😂

  • @storydevice
    @storydevice Рік тому +1

    It's me-I made it to the 4th episode and tapped out. I turned to UA-cam commentary after that to learn about the volcano that gives birth to Mordor or whatever.

  • @michaelgabster1192
    @michaelgabster1192 Рік тому

    Thank you "Just Some Guy" you are making too much since.

  • @jiks270
    @jiks270 Рік тому

    Well put.

  • @wycoturmoil
    @wycoturmoil Рік тому

    Love the new intro

  • @abigailslade3824
    @abigailslade3824 Рік тому

    Loving the new title sequence.

  • @hilanddoug
    @hilanddoug Рік тому

    "Ferengi and Hutt love child" had me rolling!!! 😂😂😂

  • @NarcissistAU
    @NarcissistAU Рік тому +2

    This should teach them that bad writing drives us away, but I bet they'll claim it only proves how short our attention span is.

  • @zionleach3001
    @zionleach3001 Рік тому +1

    Who could've saw that coming...... Oh that's right EVERYONE.

  • @Mlai00
    @Mlai00 Рік тому +1

    The one scene where corporate greed should take over and run things, it doesn't.

  • @revolioclockman8090
    @revolioclockman8090 Рік тому +5

    The most frustrating thing about the strategy of these streaming networks is that it's completely unnecessary.
    They're trying to make shows that appeal to everyone, which makes sense if you have a maximum limit of 24 hours of shows per day.
    But with streaming, people pick and choose what they want. Literally every show could be targetted to a different niche audience and it would still be successful, maybe more so.
    Instead they churn out middling, timid, orthodoxy. Just...why?

  • @mxvega1097
    @mxvega1097 Рік тому +1

    I like to think of it as a "career defining moment" for Jennifer Salke.
    Next season will have more action. And dead horses. Go Jen. Flog it.

  • @shemyaza8934
    @shemyaza8934 Рік тому +40

    If they wrote the show for men over 35 (LOTR's chief demographic), every man over 35 would watch it and so would a huge chunk of all other quadrants.
    Instead they slapped men over 35 in the face, insulted them, and wrote the show for the opposite of the chief demographic. Absolute brilliance.

    • @colmivers
      @colmivers Рік тому +1

      But those aren't real men to be fair

  • @007Thanos007
    @007Thanos007 Рік тому +3

    @JustSomeGuy
    Thank you as always for your reviews on Tolkien, but I have a question for you which, if you don't answer publicly, hopefully you'll consider.
    When will you do more comic book reviews? Please don't tell me that UA-cam will copyright strike you if you do.

  • @shooterdefronvrps2
    @shooterdefronvrps2 Рік тому

    Amazon marketing budget for "we has Tolkien at home" season one just dry out and the extended pr department can finally pretend they unbias and tell that the sky is bloody blue

  • @manwithnoname3024
    @manwithnoname3024 Рік тому +20

    What they did to league of their own is absolutely goddamn disgusting. These people are mentally just gone.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro Рік тому

      It is complicated because director has the point. Focus groups are really bad way to test movies, because random people has no expectations and default to most popular things. Except mainstream is saturated, boring and washed. In reality not sell that well. So yes, it is biased to say that movie about gay to be too gay, when it target specific audience. Fact that adaptation twist original for own agenda is separate issue.

  • @midgetydeath
    @midgetydeath Рік тому

    “Greedier than the lovechild of a ferengi and a hutt.” 🤣

  • @meatballwanger
    @meatballwanger Рік тому

    This is the best thing I ever saw.

  • @shannoncourtney6455
    @shannoncourtney6455 Рік тому +1

    I was one of those 1/3, I had to see just how bad it could be... it was staggering!

  • @shaou-linwright2797
    @shaou-linwright2797 Рік тому

    You had me the Joker laugh.😅

  • @thomasadams5671
    @thomasadams5671 Рік тому +1

    Ferengi and Hutt love child. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jamesfrederick.
    @jamesfrederick. Рік тому +1

    Wish UA-cam didn’t hide you’re channel

  • @indiecomicsjones
    @indiecomicsjones Рік тому +3

    If you only skip one show this year, it should be Rings of Power.