I felt like Colleen was in love with everyone. Everyone was "THE ONE". And her facial expressions say something different. She doesn't really look happy.
She has said she is uncomfortable in front of the camera after seeing the backlash to their season and that's why she looks so scared and uncomfortable. That being said Matt and Colleen don't really seem like they like each other very much. Like maybe it's a sunk cost fallacy and they feel like they have to keep going. I definitely support them not living together and keeping their finances separate until they are 100% sure if they want to stay married or not.
My problem is that it’s okay to have disagreements in a relationship but it seems they disagree on FUNDAMENTAL things like buying a house/pets/location/timelines which is why everyone is saying it won’t work out. They’re in the dating stage discussing life decisions so love might not be enough
I thought she was acting for most of the time. It seemed so forced and contrived. But the fact that she seems to still be with Matt obviously makes me think I’m wrong about that now. I guess that’s just what a superficial relationship sounds like idk
As someone with CPTSD, I have been Zae and I have blamed others for stuff that I fully created. I feel badly for Cole. He wasn’t perfect but he does not deserve the nonsense being tossed his way. And for Brennan to be such a clown to him is honestly pathetic. He needs to man up. He’s being eaten alive by his lady.
Cole was actively awful first tho. Zay reading into things doesn't take away the devaluing we saw from him on camera. Both of them have a lot of work to do and we haven't seen accountability from either of them.
I wonder if Alexa hates Cole because he triggers her. Specifically his "alleged" comments about Zanab's size or fat shaming her. Maybe that has been an issue in her previous relationships.
I thought the exact same while I was watching the show. I also thought she probably found him attractive at first but his comments shattered her confidence which she built in the years. They say that hate is the other side of love so..
It's insane that these people never said anything about Barracuda because Nancy was basically a pushover. But they piled on Cole because Zanab was so dramatic.
It’s so irritating to me to see Zae saying that she has healed and yet seeing her throw Cole under the bus for his wrong doings and the things she just perceived were his wrongdoings without accepting ANY responsibility for the toxic things she did. And to see the whole friend group side with her and target Cole…so cringey. I don’t think a single one took the time to hear Cole’s side. I do appreciate your point of view and love to watch your reviews on the show!
Brennon is directing all his accumulated anger to others people business. The way he pressed his lips together when Alexas dad was mocking him woooow. He is holding so much back but he cant because he knows they would twist everything so bad that at the end he would be the villain of the story. I really dont like this whole Alexa-Brennon thing.
I think that's spot on. He has so much pent up anger from being oppressed by Alexa and her family that he finds other ways to release it. They always seem to be stomping on his manhood so he has to act dominant in other situations. Unfortunately he chooses to target Cole the most, trying to collect some brownie points for acting as his wife's whip. It's kind of sad to be honest.
That father in law and his BDE and his comment about the box 🧐🤦🏼♀️ and his wife the same age as his daughters and Alexa’s quasi BDE that she got from him is all rather interesting. And it’s exactly right that Brennon will then seek to dominate the more submissive. My dog literally does this at the park when she is being bullied. They pass it down the line. Cole doesn’t deserve to be a punching bag.
Well, to be fair, the term didn’t originate in the psychology/therapy community, and it had a distinct colloquial meaning that became fuzzy after it become popularized. For those who understand the term in it’s original form before it became popular, yeah she is using it wrong. Language and meanings of words are fluid. ‘Gaslight’ has come to mean something a tad different than the original meaning that came from the play of the same title, so sure by this standard she is using it correctly. Some people are still catching up, releasing their previous understanding of the former less subjective definition, and adapting to how society currently uses it. Also sounds like you’re implying that a therapist cannot use a term incorrectly…. Edit: I will be silent now, I see what I misunderstood. Minus the last point. I don't think it should be assumed someone is 100% correct and unquestionable solely because of their title. Remember the medical community once shunned the man who suggested the existence of germs.
I was super annoyed by Brennan. I guess he was being supportive of his wife, but I felt like he was soo anti Cole with a biased viewpoint. And he’s a sh*t starter…
He's annoying. I liked them at first but now they are acting holier than though. I guess they are just going of what Zay said so he sounded horrible but would love to know their reaction after the cuties scene. Supposedly this was filmed before the reunion which is stupid but also is weird since Cole is talking about cuties in one scene. Even at the reunion Cole told him did you see me getting girls numbers and he couldn't answer cuz he left so what is his weird beef. Lol. Brennon was also charged with domestic assault on an ex gf so I don't think he is great either.
watched the episode thinking "I need Steph to break this whole thing down" lol. My heart broke for Raven and SK, the whole time it seemed so real and strong, for it to all come down so quickly.
Let me tell ya bout sk. He's the guy who will always just be agreeable and never say anything against what her woman says even if he feels different. He's a sweet talker with literally no backbone. In the pods he would just agree with everything the chick wanted or liked. That ain't realistic.
I was so glad to see this alert because I definitely wanted to hear your perspective. I am so disappointed in the ladies and Brennan for how they just accept Zay's treatment of Cole and then proceed to just pile on. Real friends hold you accountable.
SO true! but you don’t have to be friends to hold people accountable, apparently since they’re all trying to go after cole who they seemingly hate? this is just another example of having 3 sides to every story: his, hers, and the truth lol
Honestly, these women act like high school girls so it's not surprising that they are doing something as childish as talking crap about their friend's ex continually. He dated her for two months and they broke up a year ago. Real adult girlfriends would help you move on.
I think that the parents probably observe Brennan compromising or yielding to Alexa & they’re trying to encourage him to advocate for himself. I don’t think it’s just about gender roles, I think they see that Alexa is probably dominating the decision making in a way that’s dismissive of Brennan. Bc he seems to be a pushover…
100% yes. She dominates and controls their decisions. He does everything for her and she seems to do nothing for him. The dad shouldn't have said that, but he does have a point. Anyone watching them can see it. Its not about patriarchy, but about equality in a marriage.
@@bluedancelillyidk if we can say anyone watching can see it because we only see a limited amount of footage. However it does seem like Alexa is a type A personality and Brennan is a type B. This works though and that’s why their relationship is the strongest. If Brennan isn’t advocating for himself then I hope he does soon but I agree with Steph that it may be patriarchal stuff because traditionally both families have that background. The evidence can support both viewpoints so who knows? 🤷🏾♀️
Zanab honestly annoyed me I'm glad that she has started going to therapy and I really hope she finds someone she deserves. But I don't think she was fully accountable of where she went went wrong. Really looking forward to what you say about part 2 ❤
I really don’t think the dad was joking when she said “I hate him” it was such a long awkward pause and Brennan had to kept promoting to move forward from “the joke”
@@CharisMaggieTV right he said “you want the truth… I hate him” and only started talking again after Brennan saying okay okay come on come on TWICE. There was no joke
Cole may be unpolished and sloppy at times with his words, but from my perspective he seems to have a good heart, whereas Zae (sp) comes across cold, rigid and dismissive. It bothers me too that Cole is bullied and that the women are so caddy and "mean girlish" toward him. I don't think Cole would be able to do anything right in this relationship. I hope Cole does not fall back into this relationship, he has a lot to offer to someone who sees his good qualities.
I appreciate all of this. What you’re saying about Zay and Cole particularly stands out to me. I feel really bad for Cole. I feel like all the girls just attack him and then all the guys do the same thing. I have not once seen anyone on the show honestly empathize with him or have interest in his truth and his perspective and feelings. I feel like Zay thinks she’s contributing to women’s empowerment by “standing up for herself” but in actuality she’s creating soooo much drama. I would literally not be able to be friends with someone like her. I hope Cole gets some public recognition for his side of the story. I’d love to see more of that from the people on the actual show itself but that’s probably too much to ask.
Cole will have peace and a good women because that’s who he is. Zay will not because that’s isn’t who she is… _______ place any man on that blank and she will do or has already done the same to another man. Once women create an alter reality of truth they will almost never go back on their words for the sake of not being embarrassed and of course deep rooted insecurities. Any woman who is emotionally stable and has a right state of mind knows Cole is harmless. He is just learning with age and experience as every human being. And if that isn’t enough for women to understand then point fingers at the woman who raised him. Women are the biggest influences in children’s lives.
can’t wait!!🤩I am an MFT trainee and you are the only therapist on social media that I find to be very helpful when it comes to these reviews in helping me better understand what each person’s point of view in couple’s dynamic and especially when there’s some toxicity going on.
@@StephAnya - we need *you* to replace Dr. Phil! He's retiring. You are in the chute - step up & grab that seven-figure gig! You'll be great...breath of fresh air.
@@birdi3beez yeah he is taking a hard stance against Cole but Bartise was arguably worse and didn’t really apologize and kept at it pretty the whole time. It’s weird
@@MzJamaicanBeauty12 it’s confusing to me and comes across as him being inconsistent in his “values /morals.” You perceive Cole as someone who treats women poorly and come down hard on him, but don’t do the same with Bartise or Matt😕 They we’re both awful to. That makes no sense to me and makes me feel like you don’t really care about men treating women poorly you just have a personal issue with Cole.
@@birdi3beez truly, I just think Alexa is super close with Zenab so her having a major problem issue with him means he co-signs… it is incredibly inconsistent
I think Brennon has changed a little since he has been with Alexa. She's in full control in the relationship and Brennon is giving "Yes ma'am anything you want. I don't know if it's healthy or not
Re: what you say about Cole, I think it's really interesting viewing it as reality TV as well as actual people. There always needs to be a "villian" of the season and the producers will never allow it to be someone from a "successful" couple. (The edit went very easy on Amber in S1 for example). Doing that big alter speech, Zay gave the producers of the show a great opening to make Cole the "villain" of the season, because they don't want to focus on, for example, Matt's anger issues. I wouldn't be surprised if the others were prompted to talk badly of Cole during this filming.
That would make sense as to why he got dragged so badly at the reunion special, too. Like he said some dumb stuff, for sure, but Zay and the girls ganging up on him is so scummy, and the fact that nobody is taking his side is just depressing
That's a good point. And also, I know the sweetest girl who was apparently made the "villain" of a reality show. Knowing how she is in person makes me super suspicious of these good/bad narratives. I'm honestly getting suspicious of Cole and what was cut out, just because the way the other ppl who knew him all seem to hate him. Like, he's got not one defender.
I suppose the villain of the season has to be a white male or a white woman. So Bartise could not be the one. Just look back to the all seasons...it is the rule. Of course it is a t producers idea.
I’m so happy to see this. I’ll be tuning in for sure. I had to stop watching this , I found Zaes borderline traits too much. I am a therapist as well and the breakdowns you did were spot on.
First time watching your video! So cool to see other therapists chime in. Question for u all... another therapist says Gaslighting IS a clinical term. It's been adopted into pop culture and being used incorrectly. Thoughts?
I respect what you said about calling out your friends & not just going along with how folks feel. I’m like that with my friends & encourage them to be real af with me. I’m better for it.
I grew up in a family where both sets of grandparents got along. It was an incredible way to grow up. Went on family vacations and spent the holidays with both sets at the same time.
Raven actually responded to fans demanding the girls to apologize to Cole after the Cuties story was revealed and she basically said that she would not apologize and that she would stick by Zanab because they are best friends.
Honestly, it irks me when we take a man's word instead of his actions. SK is just saying the right things. Nothing else. His face is completely stoic and his voice tone never changes. The guy is giving sociopath
I've thought that about SK from early on. He's even said some sketchy things. Raven was trying to learn about him and his culture. But she was expected to move across the country. What man would come on an "I'm ready to get married show" while in the process of moving, starting school, and not being able to help with bills if you can't move with them. That's a lot to expect, especially from someone you just met.
@@lthomas6022that’s exactly what I said. You KNEW you were gonna be in California for school yet you intentionally came on a march making show and essentially wasted everyone’s time.
@@kayhope2602for real and it's not like he picked a girl who wasn't that passionate about her career or who was happy with being a stay-at-home, like Raven is a working girl with her own business that she won't be walking away from.
Brenneman reminds me of my abusive boss. His wife treated him like her servant so he projected his anger towards me. Cursing at me, berating me, demeaning me. He tried to say hi to my husband when he saw him and I guess my husband said "Craig dont try to talk to me. I hate your ass. Fuck off" lol
I'm getting my masters in social work. Watching you analyze helps me view things in a different lens and makes me feel comfortable with understanding how to diagnose people. I love watching your videos.
Honestly, I feel like all the girls just don’t like Cole, like, as a person. Which, on the one hand, I totally get. He’s definitely not everyone’s cup of tea - loud, a bit socially awkward, doesn’t always think before he speaks. So when Z comes in with these stories of all the stuff he’s supposedly done, the girls are all too happy to latch onto them in order to turn Cole into a full on villain. “I don’t like this person” becomes “this person is a bad person that no one should like.”
Wow! Love your perspective on the women's perspective of Cole. That makes a lot of sense. Makes sense why they're not even questioning if the accusations against him really happened because they already felt negatively towards him. Good take! I do feel bad for him though. No one on his corner.
Like they keep saying he’s done things outside of the cuties situation they personally witnessed. But what are these things. You’re no longer bound by contract so please just tell us. I don’t want to unknowingly defend someone who’s treated another poorly so just tell us.
That first clip with Colleen and Matt bothered the heck out of me. He did all the talking and she seemed so closed down. Did she feel like she could disagree with him on camera? Edit: Re: Brennan and Alexa, I think that they are one of these couples with similar opinions about things and being together, they empower one another. Just because Brennan is quieter, that doesn't mean he doesn't have hot takes. Maybe he just didn't have the comfort airing his opinions until being with a more outspoken person rubbed off on him. I don't interpret that as him not having his own thoughts and opinions. But I could be wrong.
I agree! even the way he said to her, you can piggy back off that if you want and she just got quiet and said uhhh yeah. Instead of inviting her to share her thoughts he was essentially saying, ok now it's your turn to agree on what I'm saying.
I agree with you about Brennan "regurgitating" Alexa's opinions. I like them as a couple but he gives me pushover energy as well. I also was very irritated and triggered by the group scene when they discussed Cole.
Maybe Brennon is like Nancy, containers for other peoples emotions. I agree he’s not forming his own opinions because he’s going off of what Alexa is saying. And maybe that’s why their family questions their power dynamics….
I enjoyed hearing your frustrations about making this "after-the-altar series before the reunion, " which feels pointless. I'd like to see an after-the-later episode a year after the wedding. How else might you structure the show to improve the success of finding and maintaining a connection between contestants...I'd also be invested in your thoughts on the 90-day franchise
For SK and Raven i listened to Nick Viall's podcast and she spoke in detail about what happened and its so sad. If she is being honest then SK is a piece of work and F boy for sure.
I love this channel! Regarding the Raven and SK situation, I really recommend the recent Nick Viall podcast in which he sat down with Raven . I am halfway though and everything makes sense . The relationship was real and sadly SK was dishonest and unfaithful. The tea is spilled and a lot of things start to add up once you hear Raven tell her story .
Agreed. It’s not just that he’s opinionated, he acts like his opinions are fact. But also, I feel like there is pent up anger from his dynamic with Alexa
I only made it through the first ep and I am so happy that now I know I can just watch it with you and just leave these two other episodes on netflix alone. I fully agree on everything. Raven and Sk made me sad, the group turning Cole into some kind of antagonist and bullying him etc.
It was filmed before the reunion. One proof is that Barrtise was surprised to see Nancy with blonde hair but she already had that hair color at the reunion. However some scenes were filmed after such as Raven crying and Cole playing with cuties
@@node-ks that's not what I meant to say. He was surprised to see her new hair color when they met at the restaurant in one of the after the altar episodes.
Filming - May through July (4th July was the wedding) 2021 ATA - August 2022 Reunion special - October 2022 Cheating scandal revealed - November 2022 So everything was filmed before it was aired at the end of October, aside from the last Raven scene.
I think Brennan is remembering what Cole said about Z behind her back to the guys in the beginning. Not what the cuties scene showed. Cole also told Z that he didn't find her as attractive as Colleen. All of those things happened early in the relationship, so it's possible that Z was holding that in and blew up inappropriately later down the line, as well as exaggerated future things that happened in her relationship with Cole. Cole isn't innocent, and Z isn't innocent. They both bullied each other
Not a fan of how many in the comments portray Brennan as the poor one suffering „under“ Alexa - I feel like this really wouldn’t be such an issue if Alexa was the guy and Brennan the girl. Putting the perspective just on the dynamic of the two, I think they are working out really well - I rather see some outside pressure making Brennan feel small in his position which then leads to unproductive outlets. I still think it’s quite unfair and low-key misogynist to blame this on Alexa.
I've seen a couple interviews with the girls after seeing the cuties incident and from what i remember, Alexa and colleen both said that they heard and saw things Cole said to Zay that they were not okay with and that the cuties incident was basically irrelevant to them. I also watched a reaction video from Pyschologyy in Seattle where he basically said that what Zanab said happened was how she interpretted Cole's comments/the situation. She wasn't necessarily lying, and she probably saw the recap and still felt that he'd attacked her body because that's her trigger. idk I think Zay was extremely triggered by Cole and he got on my last nerve. If you do ever decide to do a video on Brenan and Alexa I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on his DV accusations.
@@shorts-gc3bp I saw the report on Reddit, pretty sure you can Google it but i haven't tried. He posted bail a few weeks before going on the show, allegedly he threw a girl he was dating against a wall and gave her a concussion after she wouldn't leave his house. I think the charges were dropped later or something bc he wasn't tried.
I like this take, I don't think Zanab is purposefully being a bully to Cole, and I don't think everyone is blindly following her, I think they meant it when they said they heard him say things that were suspicious and that influenced their view of him. I don't think dog piling him so often is helpful, but I think Zanab is hurt by something and I don't think calling her crazy or a bully is helping her or Cole.
@@Molly-iw1rc Agree, I definitely think the cast didn't/doesn't handle the cole conflict the best, and I don't think he intentionally did anything awful. I still hate his interviews where he says shit about "women these days" and feminism and how girls are like x while guys are like y and his overall super sexist attitude. I know other people are like that too, but imo that doesn't make anything better.
As a fellow therapist, it is wonderful to hear we agree on all accounts regarding evaluating these relationships with the minor information we have. I particularly agree with not appreciating the lack of evidence and bullying behavior towards Cole.
As Bartise only saw Nancies blonde hair here, the exert of cole throwing around cuties makes it seem like it was after the main reunion rather than before it
@@automaticcaptions At the reunion, Zanab claimed she was eating cuties when Cole tried to shame/control her eating. Cole claimed he didn't do that. At the end of the reunion, they rolled the footage of that event. It showed that Zanab had wildly distorted the situation, somewhat vindicating Cole. It's known as "the cuties scene".
Always love your videos Steph! Here are some movies with couples I’d love for you to analyze: Pride and Prejudice Love, Actually Shotgun Wedding Marry Me The Notebook
I arrived late to the party. I think every group will always try and find a scapegoat or someone to be the "villain" so they kinda bond over that. I think every season I've watched has had one. They all have been awful people, but in this season nobody was really "evil" like that... so they all subconsciously exaggerated his mistakes to make him the villain. Also I think Brennon has zero personality, he had no reason to be mean to Cole. And something I've liked a lot throughout the seasons is that all men supported each other despite their mistakes (except for Shake, obviously) I hate how they all turned their back at Cole and he left without girlfriend or friends 🥺🥺🥺
UGH. These girls annoy me, they're like a hive-mind mean girl clique. "Stick by our girls even if she's wrong!" I feel so bad for Cole. I don't know if he's contractually obligated to be roped back into this repeatedly, but a part of me wishes he and Colleen would have given it a shot. Cole's not perfect, but Matt is scary. I feel like maybe Brennan is trying to re-assert some of his dominance. Wonder if Alexa "wearing the pants" bothers him more than he lets on.
I think Brennan doesn’t get to say much in his normal environment so he’s speaking out else where 🤷🏾♀️😂 he seems so hush hush around Alexa & her family then when he’s with the guys there’s so much anger & judgement towards others. Idk what’s going on with him. Just my thoughts…
Brennan is a simp and Alexa is a bullyZ. It’s good she’s open about sec but would have been kinder had she kept it between her and Brennan. I get it’s a TV show and they have to share but she kind of mocked him the first time she mentioned to her group of minions.
Please listen to the podcast raven just did! She did like a tell all/behind the scenes of what was going on throughout her time with Sk. It definitely gives a ton of insight.
I really like in general how you break the this showdown I have never watched the show but I like how you talked about the fact that you like it when you can see if someone's done something that you can have proof cuz I think there's a tendency to manipulate people sometimes and like think that it's okay sometimes it's hard to even you know trust people especially if there's not good
I think I would also like your opinions on the parent test. I know it’s controversial because they turned it into a competition but I really like the conversations that they’re having. If they do a second season, I hope they do away with the competitive aspects and focus on the conversations.
did anyone see those brennan allegations (not really allegations cause there are actual legal documents) that he committed dv against an ex? for me it makes sense that he acts as if he is superior now knowing his past
Yeah I saw it and was disappointed. I should have known he was too good to be true. Too perfect and accommodating. It’s disgusting that it literally happened just before they started filming their season.
They are still technically allegations as the charges didn't stick and he wasn't convicted. I don't know what to think of it, though. It just seems so against his character.
We are unsure of when this filmed because when you get to episode 3, they speak on SK’s second proposal. However at the reunion, they just say they are still dating, she didn’t have an engagement ring on there. They must have filmed all these at the same time.
Yes!!! You're right on the money 👏👏👏 Zay is so emotionally immature and I'm hoping her therapist is calling her on her BS so she can reflect and deeply heal.
I found it interesting that she needed a male therapist specifically and said “I need a man to call me out.” No, girl, you need a professional to call you out and that’s the crux of it. Its totally fine to have a gender preference for your counselor for comfort level. I personally prefer to talk to other women. When Zay says it that way, though, it makes it feel like she’s bringing a weird dynamic to her relationship with her therapist. Maybe I’m extrapolating too much.
Does no one remember at the reunion when all the girls said there was a lot of really bad shit Cole said/did that was not shown? I just can’t believe they would feel this strongly about him without knowing a lot more than the audience. Also didn’t Brennon confirm cole kissed a girl at the bachelor party?
Not a fan of who Brennan has become. He is literally just following his wife. I think his frustration comes from within. He is just accepting everything his wife and her family say including the critiques/suggestion his wife makes about their sex life. He does not look happy to me.
I have not watched this season of this show. I did watch the very 1st season. I do agree with the none judgmental stance on how couples chose to “do” their marriage, everyone has a reason they decide and if it works for them they can also decide that they don’t have to explain it to anyone either 🤭. People tend to project their own views onto others and that is often problematic and even more problematic if one doesn’t know who they are ❤
I felt so bad for Cole. He is being bullied by the group and I am not sure why. Especially when Bartise was much more of a villain in my opinion. Also, Brennan and Alexsa are beginning to make me sick with their sanctimonious judgmental 'Holier than though' posturing and opinions that no one asked for.
Raven talked about EVERYTHING on Nick Viall’s podcast. It’s was good. Man, SK is something else 🥴 if you get a chance to watch, would love to hear your thoughts!
It’s interesting you pointed out After the Alter was filmed before the reunion because I remember seeing Raven walk over to SK to hug him and call him her man and she seemed shut off but she just has that vibe sometimes haha. That’s wild they made her hug him and all that if that came out. Maybe that clip at the end of her crying was filmed right after the reunion? I can see Vanessa being all over that convo if it did come out then. Thinking out loud 😂
@@oliviaoconnor2201 ok I remember it that way also, like very soon after the reunion. Maybe she was embarrassed about production making her walk across the room to him idk
I find it funny how nancy and raven can make jokes about cole but bartise never wanted nancy and sk literally declined raven and was doing stuff. Nasty behavior
Yessss!! Thank you for saying this about Cole. I don’t understand the group bullying- like you said there’s no proof of why everyone hates on him so much. I just don’t see it at all. I felt Zay humiliated him and degraded him & don’t understand at all why she felt he deserved that. No proof - just looks like she has a lot of insecurities.
I felt like Colleen was in love with everyone. Everyone was "THE ONE". And her facial expressions say something different. She doesn't really look happy.
She has said she is uncomfortable in front of the camera after seeing the backlash to their season and that's why she looks so scared and uncomfortable. That being said Matt and Colleen don't really seem like they like each other very much. Like maybe it's a sunk cost fallacy and they feel like they have to keep going. I definitely support them not living together and keeping their finances separate until they are 100% sure if they want to stay married or not.
During the pods she was so broken up about being rejected twice it seems like if anyone was going to propose to her she was gonna say yes
She’s scared of Matt.
My problem is that it’s okay to have disagreements in a relationship but it seems they disagree on FUNDAMENTAL things like buying a house/pets/location/timelines which is why everyone is saying it won’t work out. They’re in the dating stage discussing life decisions so love might not be enough
I thought she was acting for most of the time. It seemed so forced and contrived. But the fact that she seems to still be with Matt obviously makes me think I’m wrong about that now. I guess that’s just what a superficial relationship sounds like idk
As someone with CPTSD, I have been Zae and I have blamed others for stuff that I fully created. I feel badly for Cole. He wasn’t perfect but he does not deserve the nonsense being tossed his way. And for Brennan to be such a clown to him is honestly pathetic. He needs to man up. He’s being eaten alive by his lady.
Cole was actively awful first tho. Zay reading into things doesn't take away the devaluing we saw from him on camera. Both of them have a lot of work to do and we haven't seen accountability from either of them.
@@jakemarie828 Zay was also critical of Cole during their time on camera too.
@@jakemarie828I keep seeing people say this. Can you explain what he was doing in the beginning that was so awful? I’m genuinely curious.
Totally agree!!! Brennan stopped in my eyes when he went after Cole too.
@@kayhope2602 Yeah, I keep seeing this everywhere but I’m confused about what he did that was so awful..🙄
Colleen just always looks nervous or scared when they are together in interviews…
True! I feel, that she is maybe scared to say something wrong in front of the cameras and then get into the trouble again.
I thought she looked annoyed in some of them. 😂
I don't think she even likes him TBH
Right??? I keep getting that vibe too, I thought I was maybe reading her wrong. It's quite uncomfortable.
It couldn't be more obvious 😳
I wonder if Alexa hates Cole because he triggers her. Specifically his "alleged" comments about Zanab's size or fat shaming her. Maybe that has been an issue in her previous relationships.
Is a good theory actually
I thought the exact same while I was watching the show. I also thought she probably found him attractive at first but his comments shattered her confidence which she built in the years. They say that hate is the other side of love so..
But she is fat, why does the truth hurt people so much
Oh certainly. She was extremely insecure from the start. My guess is vulnerable narcissist or borderline, taking revenge for perceived slights
It's insane that these people never said anything about Barracuda because Nancy was basically a pushover. But they piled on Cole because Zanab was so dramatic.
Exactly!!!!!!
It’s so irritating to me to see Zae saying that she has healed and yet seeing her throw Cole under the bus for his wrong doings and the things she just perceived were his wrongdoings without accepting ANY responsibility for the toxic things she did. And to see the whole friend group side with her and target Cole…so cringey. I don’t think a single one took the time to hear Cole’s side. I do appreciate your point of view and love to watch your reviews on the show!
Brennon is directing all his accumulated anger to others people business. The way he pressed his lips together when Alexas dad was mocking him woooow. He is holding so much back but he cant because he knows they would twist everything so bad that at the end he would be the villain of the story. I really dont like this whole Alexa-Brennon thing.
Me either.
I think that's spot on. He has so much pent up anger from being oppressed by Alexa and her family that he finds other ways to release it. They always seem to be stomping on his manhood so he has to act dominant in other situations. Unfortunately he chooses to target Cole the most, trying to collect some brownie points for acting as his wife's whip. It's kind of sad to be honest.
That father in law and his BDE and his comment about the box 🧐🤦🏼♀️ and his wife the same age as his daughters and Alexa’s quasi BDE that she got from him is all rather interesting. And it’s exactly right that Brennon will then seek to dominate the more submissive. My dog literally does this at the park when she is being bullied. They pass it down the line. Cole doesn’t deserve to be a punching bag.
@@steffnic13 what is BDE?
@@regularity2556big dick energy or someone who is perceived to be an alpha person, more dominant one
Imagine telling a literal therapist she’s using “gaslighting” wrong lmao people are wild
Well, to be fair, the term didn’t originate in the psychology/therapy community, and it had a distinct colloquial meaning that became fuzzy after it become popularized. For those who understand the term in it’s original form before it became popular, yeah she is using it wrong.
Language and meanings of words are fluid. ‘Gaslight’ has come to mean something a tad different than the original meaning that came from the play of the same title, so sure by this standard she is using it correctly. Some people are still catching up, releasing their previous understanding of the former less subjective definition, and adapting to how society currently uses it.
Also sounds like you’re implying that a therapist cannot use a term incorrectly….
Edit: I will be silent now, I see what I misunderstood. Minus the last point. I don't think it should be assumed someone is 100% correct and unquestionable solely because of their title. Remember the medical community once shunned the man who suggested the existence of germs.
I was super annoyed by Brennan. I guess he was being supportive of his wife, but I felt like he was soo anti Cole with a biased viewpoint. And he’s a sh*t starter…
Those were my exact words to my husband, Alexa and Brennon are Sh*t starters!!!
Facts
Agreed! They don't even listen to him, only know and trust her point of view
Brennon needs to have that kind of energy towards his father in law.
He's annoying. I liked them at first but now they are acting holier than though. I guess they are just going of what Zay said so he sounded horrible but would love to know their reaction after the cuties scene. Supposedly this was filmed before the reunion which is stupid but also is weird since Cole is talking about cuties in one scene. Even at the reunion Cole told him did you see me getting girls numbers and he couldn't answer cuz he left so what is his weird beef. Lol. Brennon was also charged with domestic assault on an ex gf so I don't think he is great either.
I’m happy that it seems neither Colleen or Matt want to move in together 😂
That’s honestly for the best I spent that entire season being genuinely concerned for Colleen’s safety
watched the episode thinking "I need Steph to break this whole thing down" lol. My heart broke for Raven and SK, the whole time it seemed so real and strong, for it to all come down so quickly.
So quickly 💔
Same but I had a slight feeling because he’s across the country. I think they should’ve waited until he graduated, that is if they were still single.
@@daughterofyah6209 did you hear what happened? He had more as one affairs, he is a scam
Sk did not seem genuine at all to me
Let me tell ya bout sk. He's the guy who will always just be agreeable and never say anything against what her woman says even if he feels different. He's a sweet talker with literally no backbone. In the pods he would just agree with everything the chick wanted or liked. That ain't realistic.
I was so glad to see this alert because I definitely wanted to hear your perspective. I am so disappointed in the ladies and Brennan for how they just accept Zay's treatment of Cole and then proceed to just pile on. Real friends hold you accountable.
SO true! but you don’t have to be friends to hold people accountable, apparently since they’re all trying to go after cole who they seemingly hate? this is just another example of having 3 sides to every story: his, hers, and the truth lol
Honestly, these women act like high school girls so it's not surprising that they are doing something as childish as talking crap about their friend's ex continually. He dated her for two months and they broke up a year ago. Real adult girlfriends would help you move on.
Exactly!
I think that the parents probably observe Brennan compromising or yielding to Alexa & they’re trying to encourage him to advocate for himself. I don’t think it’s just about gender roles, I think they see that Alexa is probably dominating the decision making in a way that’s dismissive of Brennan. Bc he seems to be a pushover…
100% yes. She dominates and controls their decisions. He does everything for her and she seems to do nothing for him. The dad shouldn't have said that, but he does have a point. Anyone watching them can see it. Its not about patriarchy, but about equality in a marriage.
Brennon most likely will lose himself in that relationship
@@bluedancelillyidk if we can say anyone watching can see it because we only see a limited amount of footage. However it does seem like Alexa is a type A personality and Brennan is a type B. This works though and that’s why their relationship is the strongest. If Brennan isn’t advocating for himself then I hope he does soon but I agree with Steph that it may be patriarchal stuff because traditionally both families have that background. The evidence can support both viewpoints so who knows? 🤷🏾♀️
@@tunzlunz Brennan is a punk and is scared of Alexa so he’s backing down. He’s no type B this is the man that physically abused his ex
Agree
Zanab honestly annoyed me I'm glad that she has started going to therapy and I really hope she finds someone she deserves. But I don't think she was fully accountable of where she went went wrong. Really looking forward to what you say about part 2 ❤
Totally agree.
Fully? That girl took zero accountability! She blamed everything on Cole and still stands by it.
The therapy won’t work. It requires self awareness and honesty
I really don’t think the dad was joking when she said “I hate him” it was such a long awkward pause and Brennan had to kept promoting to move forward from “the joke”
agreed
Yah definitely wasn’t a joke. My guy didn’t even say “just kidding”
@@CharisMaggieTV right he said “you want the truth… I hate him” and only started talking again after Brennan saying okay okay come on come on TWICE. There was no joke
@@MzJamaicanBeauty12 exactly lol
That was the editing, that long pause didn’t happen in real life.
“There’s not enough to talk about” with Alexa and Brennen has me weak 😂
Cole may be unpolished and sloppy at times with his words, but from my perspective he seems to have a good heart, whereas Zae (sp) comes across cold, rigid and dismissive. It bothers me too that Cole is bullied and that the women are so caddy and "mean girlish" toward him. I don't think Cole would be able to do anything right in this relationship. I hope Cole does not fall back into this relationship, he has a lot to offer to someone who sees his good qualities.
I wish Cole and Colleen chose eachother instead. She genuinely doesn’t seem happy with Matt either 😢
Did you mean "catty"? Otherwise, that is a beautiful Mean Girls reference 😏😏
I appreciate all of this. What you’re saying about Zay and Cole particularly stands out to me. I feel really bad for Cole. I feel like all the girls just attack him and then all the guys do the same thing. I have not once seen anyone on the show honestly empathize with him or have interest in his truth and his perspective and feelings. I feel like Zay thinks she’s contributing to women’s empowerment by “standing up for herself” but in actuality she’s creating soooo much drama. I would literally not be able to be friends with someone like her. I hope Cole gets some public recognition for his side of the story. I’d love to see more of that from the people on the actual show itself but that’s probably too much to ask.
Cole will have peace and a good women because that’s who he is. Zay will not because that’s isn’t who she is… _______ place any man on that blank and she will do or has already done the same to another man. Once women create an alter reality of truth they will almost never go back on their words for the sake of not being embarrassed and of course deep rooted insecurities. Any woman who is emotionally stable and has a right state of mind knows Cole is harmless. He is just learning with age and experience as every human being. And if that isn’t enough for women to understand then point fingers at the woman who raised him. Women are the biggest influences in children’s lives.
That was just Brennan enjoying being top dog and having conversations with men who weren’t emasculating him 😂 22:43
can’t wait!!🤩I am an MFT trainee and you are the only therapist on social media that I find to be very helpful when it comes to these reviews in helping me better understand what each person’s point of view in couple’s dynamic and especially when there’s some toxicity going on.
So glad to hear that you’re finding the videos helpful!
@@StephAnya - we need *you* to replace Dr. Phil!
He's retiring. You are in the chute - step up & grab that seven-figure gig!
You'll be great...breath of fresh air.
Would love to see you break down "Ultimatum, Marry or Move on "!!
YES!!! I completely agree
I finished that one and immediately came to see if she had a video on Madlyn & Colby 😂
I think the reason I can’t really feel good about Brennan is he has no issue with Bartise and that doesn’t make sense
Right! No problem with that one even though he treated and spoke to Nancy horribly.
@@birdi3beez yeah he is taking a hard stance against Cole but Bartise was arguably worse and didn’t really apologize and kept at it pretty the whole time. It’s weird
@@MzJamaicanBeauty12 it’s confusing to me and comes across as him being inconsistent in his “values /morals.” You perceive Cole as someone who treats women poorly and come down hard on him, but don’t do the same with Bartise or Matt😕 They we’re both awful to. That makes no sense to me and makes me feel like you don’t really care about men treating women poorly you just have a personal issue with Cole.
@@birdi3beez truly, I just think Alexa is super close with Zenab so her having a major problem issue with him means he co-signs… it is incredibly inconsistent
I think Brennon has changed a little since he has been with Alexa. She's in full control in the relationship and Brennon is giving "Yes ma'am anything you want. I don't know if it's healthy or not
Yuppp
I think he lacks some confidence and boundary setting
💯 his whole family is a pleaser they all became Jewish
Re: what you say about Cole, I think it's really interesting viewing it as reality TV as well as actual people. There always needs to be a "villian" of the season and the producers will never allow it to be someone from a "successful" couple. (The edit went very easy on Amber in S1 for example). Doing that big alter speech, Zay gave the producers of the show a great opening to make Cole the "villain" of the season, because they don't want to focus on, for example, Matt's anger issues. I wouldn't be surprised if the others were prompted to talk badly of Cole during this filming.
That would make sense as to why he got dragged so badly at the reunion special, too. Like he said some dumb stuff, for sure, but Zay and the girls ganging up on him is so scummy, and the fact that nobody is taking his side is just depressing
That's a good point. And also, I know the sweetest girl who was apparently made the "villain" of a reality show. Knowing how she is in person makes me super suspicious of these good/bad narratives.
I'm honestly getting suspicious of Cole and what was cut out, just because the way the other ppl who knew him all seem to hate him. Like, he's got not one defender.
I suppose the villain of the season has to be a white male or a white woman. So Bartise could not be the one. Just look back to the all seasons...it is the rule. Of course it is a t producers idea.
I’m so happy to see this. I’ll be tuning in for sure. I had to stop watching this , I found Zaes borderline traits too much. I am a therapist as well and the breakdowns you did were spot on.
Looking forward to chatting with you!
@@StephAnya same
I am a therapist (LMFT) as well and I love watching your videos; you are always spot on!!!
Me too!! I skipped through a lot of it.
First time watching your video! So cool to see other therapists chime in. Question for u all... another therapist says Gaslighting IS a clinical term. It's been adopted into pop culture and being used incorrectly. Thoughts?
I hope Cole finds the love he deserves
I respect what you said about calling out your friends & not just going along with how folks feel. I’m like that with my friends & encourage them to be real af with me. I’m better for it.
I grew up in a family where both sets of grandparents got along. It was an incredible way to grow up. Went on family vacations and spent the holidays with both sets at the same time.
Raven did a podcast conversation about her and SK's relationship timeline. She was fully committed.
Raven actually responded to fans demanding the girls to apologize to Cole after the Cuties story was revealed and she basically said that she would not apologize and that she would stick by Zanab because they are best friends.
Alexa gave a half assed apology though
Toxic femininity
It's sad. I hope they give him his own show and he does find love.
@@stephanies7909 I’ve seen people say he should be the next bachelor and I am sooo into it. Idk if it’d be good for him but I’d watch it haha
@@leed4212it would make for good TV but I don't think it would be at all good for his mental health
Honestly, it irks me when we take a man's word instead of his actions. SK is just saying the right things. Nothing else. His face is completely stoic and his voice tone never changes. The guy is giving sociopath
That’s what I was thinking too..
I've thought that about SK from early on. He's even said some sketchy things. Raven was trying to learn about him and his culture. But she was expected to move across the country. What man would come on an "I'm ready to get married show" while in the process of moving, starting school, and not being able to help with bills if you can't move with them. That's a lot to expect, especially from someone you just met.
@@lthomas6022that’s exactly what I said. You KNEW you were gonna be in California for school yet you intentionally came on a march making show and essentially wasted everyone’s time.
IM CRYING yes
@@kayhope2602for real and it's not like he picked a girl who wasn't that passionate about her career or who was happy with being a stay-at-home, like Raven is a working girl with her own business that she won't be walking away from.
Brenneman reminds me of my abusive boss. His wife treated him like her servant so he projected his anger towards me. Cursing at me, berating me, demeaning me. He tried to say hi to my husband when he saw him and I guess my husband said "Craig dont try to talk to me. I hate your ass. Fuck off" lol
I'm getting my masters in social work. Watching you analyze helps me view things in a different lens and makes me feel comfortable with understanding how to diagnose people. I love watching your videos.
Honestly, I feel like all the girls just don’t like Cole, like, as a person. Which, on the one hand, I totally get. He’s definitely not everyone’s cup of tea - loud, a bit socially awkward, doesn’t always think before he speaks. So when Z comes in with these stories of all the stuff he’s supposedly done, the girls are all too happy to latch onto them in order to turn Cole into a full on villain. “I don’t like this person” becomes “this person is a bad person that no one should like.”
Yes that makes sense, I am pretty sure if they saw him as a more likable person or less annoying they may have questioned her stories more.
Wow! Love your perspective on the women's perspective of Cole. That makes a lot of sense. Makes sense why they're not even questioning if the accusations against him really happened because they already felt negatively towards him. Good take! I do feel bad for him though. No one on his corner.
Like they keep saying he’s done things outside of the cuties situation they personally witnessed. But what are these things. You’re no longer bound by contract so please just tell us. I don’t want to unknowingly defend someone who’s treated another poorly so just tell us.
That first clip with Colleen and Matt bothered the heck out of me. He did all the talking and she seemed so closed down. Did she feel like she could disagree with him on camera?
Edit: Re: Brennan and Alexa, I think that they are one of these couples with similar opinions about things and being together, they empower one another. Just because Brennan is quieter, that doesn't mean he doesn't have hot takes. Maybe he just didn't have the comfort airing his opinions until being with a more outspoken person rubbed off on him. I don't interpret that as him not having his own thoughts and opinions. But I could be wrong.
I agree! even the way he said to her, you can piggy back off that if you want and she just got quiet and said uhhh yeah. Instead of inviting her to share her thoughts he was essentially saying, ok now it's your turn to agree on what I'm saying.
Fully agree with everything you said
I agree with you about Brennan "regurgitating" Alexa's opinions. I like them as a couple but he gives me pushover energy as well. I also was very irritated and triggered by the group scene when they discussed Cole.
It’s so hard to see how they gang up on Cole.
Thank you so much for your analysis of this! Can’t wait for Part 2! Also, I’m so excited to see your thoughts on the new season of YOU!
Omg I'm SO GLAD you're covering these!!!
I NEED PART TWO! I love this series you do x😊
Maybe Brennon is like Nancy, containers for other peoples emotions. I agree he’s not forming his own opinions because he’s going off of what Alexa is saying. And maybe that’s why their family questions their power dynamics….
I’ve agreed with literally every single thing you’ve said in all your videos about this season!
Bartise likes how Nancy cares, but he doesnt care as much as Nancy
I just love watching your facial expressions 😂 they are so spot on. Thanks for doing these videos! Your analysis is super interesting!
I enjoyed hearing your frustrations about making this "after-the-altar series before the reunion, " which feels pointless. I'd like to see an after-the-later episode a year after the wedding. How else might you structure the show to improve the success of finding and maintaining a connection between contestants...I'd also be invested in your thoughts on the 90-day franchise
I loved your perspective on this episode. Yes, please review YOU. It's one of my favorite shows.
For SK and Raven i listened to Nick Viall's podcast and she spoke in detail about what happened and its so sad. If she is being honest then SK is a piece of work and F boy for sure.
I love this channel! Regarding the Raven and SK situation, I really recommend the recent Nick Viall podcast in which he sat down with Raven . I am halfway though and everything makes sense . The relationship was real and sadly SK was dishonest and unfaithful. The tea is spilled and a lot of things start to add up once you hear Raven tell her story .
Link: ua-cam.com/video/tGL6I7g7ntk/v-deo.html
Matt told her she could chime in. As if it was understood that she needed to wait for his cue.
🤨
Brennan is comfortable putting down the guys, but doesn't seem to hold his own in his own relationship.
Brennan is so condescending and rude
Hes a true gentelman in my eyes
Bc he can’t stand up to his wife or father in law, so he’s taking it out on people of lesser stature lol. For sure.
Exactly why bully Cole it’s so unnecessary
Agreed. It’s not just that he’s opinionated, he acts like his opinions are fact. But also, I feel like there is pent up anger from his dynamic with Alexa
The man converted his religion with no push back. That’s all that needs to be said about how much of a push over he is
when after the altar aired raven did a tiktok story (yes, those exist) and she said that she didn’t care of the footage and still believed zanab
I only made it through the first ep and I am so happy that now I know I can just watch it with you and just leave these two other episodes on netflix alone. I fully agree on everything. Raven and Sk made me sad, the group turning Cole into some kind of antagonist and bullying him etc.
Was waiting for this!! So glad you covered this for us ❤️🙏🏽
Thank you for your review! I think this was filmed after the reunion, based on some of the confessionals in the following episodes
Feels like it’s all over the place cuz there was no mention of a 2nd proposal in the reunion and then after the altar had mention of the cuties scene
It was filmed before the reunion.
One proof is that Barrtise was surprised to see Nancy with blonde hair but she already had that hair color at the reunion.
However some scenes were filmed after such as Raven crying and Cole playing with cuties
@@jenniferk4190 tbh i dont think he noticed her hair at the reunion but i see what you’re saying
@@node-ks that's not what I meant to say.
He was surprised to see her new hair color when they met at the restaurant in one of the after the altar episodes.
Filming - May through July (4th July was the wedding) 2021
ATA - August 2022
Reunion special - October 2022
Cheating scandal revealed - November 2022
So everything was filmed before it was aired at the end of October, aside from the last Raven scene.
I think Brennan is remembering what Cole said about Z behind her back to the guys in the beginning. Not what the cuties scene showed.
Cole also told Z that he didn't find her as attractive as Colleen. All of those things happened early in the relationship, so it's possible that Z was holding that in and blew up inappropriately later down the line, as well as exaggerated future things that happened in her relationship with Cole.
Cole isn't innocent, and Z isn't innocent.
They both bullied each other
Your videos are so good. Even aside from love is blind vids you make. All good stuff
Thanks so much ♥️
I feel like I should have waited to watch it with you 😅 I didn't know you were gonna discuss it. Your face when you saw zay 😅🤣 same girl!!!
Not a fan of how many in the comments portray Brennan as the poor one suffering „under“ Alexa - I feel like this really wouldn’t be such an issue if Alexa was the guy and Brennan the girl. Putting the perspective just on the dynamic of the two, I think they are working out really well - I rather see some outside pressure making Brennan feel small in his position which then leads to unproductive outlets. I still think it’s quite unfair and low-key misogynist to blame this on Alexa.
I agree with you, I wish this was filmed after the reunion, and the footage of the cutie incident was released.
I’ve been waiting for you to do this!!
Raven did an interview telling the whole story and I believe her. SK is a total actor, it's insane.
I've seen a couple interviews with the girls after seeing the cuties incident and from what i remember, Alexa and colleen both said that they heard and saw things Cole said to Zay that they were not okay with and that the cuties incident was basically irrelevant to them. I also watched a reaction video from Pyschologyy in Seattle where he basically said that what Zanab said happened was how she interpretted Cole's comments/the situation. She wasn't necessarily lying, and she probably saw the recap and still felt that he'd attacked her body because that's her trigger. idk I think Zay was extremely triggered by Cole and he got on my last nerve. If you do ever decide to do a video on Brenan and Alexa I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on his DV accusations.
Wait, what DV accusations? :o
@@shorts-gc3bp look it up on the love is blind reddit, he assaulted his ex
@@shorts-gc3bp I saw the report on Reddit, pretty sure you can Google it but i haven't tried. He posted bail a few weeks before going on the show, allegedly he threw a girl he was dating against a wall and gave her a concussion after she wouldn't leave his house. I think the charges were dropped later or something bc he wasn't tried.
I like this take, I don't think Zanab is purposefully being a bully to Cole, and I don't think everyone is blindly following her, I think they meant it when they said they heard him say things that were suspicious and that influenced their view of him. I don't think dog piling him so often is helpful, but I think Zanab is hurt by something and I don't think calling her crazy or a bully is helping her or Cole.
@@Molly-iw1rc Agree, I definitely think the cast didn't/doesn't handle the cole conflict the best, and I don't think he intentionally did anything awful. I still hate his interviews where he says shit about "women these days" and feminism and how girls are like x while guys are like y and his overall super sexist attitude. I know other people are like that too, but imo that doesn't make anything better.
As a fellow therapist, it is wonderful to hear we agree on all accounts regarding evaluating these relationships with the minor information we have. I particularly agree with not appreciating the lack of evidence and bullying behavior towards Cole.
love your content!
I like that u are talking about this unbiased (which makes sense since u are a therapist) ive seen some reviews that are downright negative all around
That look up to the camera 22:16 lolll. Bartidse would be the worst if it weren't for the rest of the trash contestants this year
As Bartise only saw Nancies blonde hair here, the exert of cole throwing around cuties makes it seem like it was after the main reunion rather than before it
Right
What is this cuties thing?
@@automaticcaptions At the reunion, Zanab claimed she was eating cuties when Cole tried to shame/control her eating. Cole claimed he didn't do that. At the end of the reunion, they rolled the footage of that event. It showed that Zanab had wildly distorted the situation, somewhat vindicating Cole. It's known as "the cuties scene".
@@grim524 oh ty. I kept hearing about this and was left thinking that Cole make a commment on that Terrible Netflix movie Cuties
Yes to YOU! Though we are waiting until all of the eps are released. Heart you, Happy Valentine's!
I’m excited to compare notes!! 😊
Always love your videos Steph! Here are some movies with couples I’d love for you to analyze:
Pride and Prejudice
Love, Actually
Shotgun Wedding
Marry Me
The Notebook
I arrived late to the party. I think every group will always try and find a scapegoat or someone to be the "villain" so they kinda bond over that. I think every season I've watched has had one. They all have been awful people, but in this season nobody was really "evil" like that... so they all subconsciously exaggerated his mistakes to make him the villain.
Also I think Brennon has zero personality, he had no reason to be mean to Cole. And something I've liked a lot throughout the seasons is that all men supported each other despite their mistakes (except for Shake, obviously) I hate how they all turned their back at Cole and he left without girlfriend or friends 🥺🥺🥺
HAhahahahaa it was you diverting your eyes upwards regarding Bartise and his "why I fell in love with Nancy" comment for me ahahaha.
Brennan seems to take everything out on others since he can't even speak up to Alexa... buuuuu , what a bad act seriously.
At this point all I can say is good job to Raven for showing so much emotional growth and she is so beautiful lol
UGH. These girls annoy me, they're like a hive-mind mean girl clique. "Stick by our girls even if she's wrong!" I feel so bad for Cole. I don't know if he's contractually obligated to be roped back into this repeatedly, but a part of me wishes he and Colleen would have given it a shot. Cole's not perfect, but Matt is scary. I feel like maybe Brennan is trying to re-assert some of his dominance. Wonder if Alexa "wearing the pants" bothers him more than he lets on.
I completely agree with all of this!
I think Brennan doesn’t get to say much in his normal environment so he’s speaking out else where 🤷🏾♀️😂 he seems so hush hush around Alexa & her family then when he’s with the guys there’s so much anger & judgement towards others. Idk what’s going on with him. Just my thoughts…
Coleen and Matt have the most triggering relationship. At any moment Matt might snap at any moment at one misunderstanding. Makes me relive my ex.
Brennan is a simp and Alexa is a bullyZ. It’s good she’s open about sec but would have been kinder had she kept it between her and Brennan. I get it’s a TV show and they have to share but she kind of mocked him the first time she mentioned to her group of minions.
Please listen to the podcast raven just did! She did like a tell all/behind the scenes of what was going on throughout her time with Sk. It definitely gives a ton of insight.
I really like in general how you break the this showdown I have never watched the show but I like how you talked about the fact that you like it when you can see if someone's done something that you can have proof cuz I think there's a tendency to manipulate people sometimes and like think that it's okay sometimes it's hard to even you know trust people especially if there's not good
I think I would also like your opinions on the parent test. I know it’s controversial because they turned it into a competition but I really like the conversations that they’re having. If they do a second season, I hope they do away with the competitive aspects and focus on the conversations.
Ooh, yes. I'm very interested in this too.
Crazy thing is that I still don't see SK's red flags in these clips
Same! I think there should be a video on him specifically on how he fooled everyone! That's a skill and it's scary. 😨
@@sheikay3380 agreed
did anyone see those brennan allegations (not really allegations cause there are actual legal documents) that he committed dv against an ex? for me it makes sense that he acts as if he is superior now knowing his past
Yeah I saw it and was disappointed. I should have known he was too good to be true. Too perfect and accommodating. It’s disgusting that it literally happened just before they started filming their season.
They are still technically allegations as the charges didn't stick and he wasn't convicted. I don't know what to think of it, though. It just seems so against his character.
We are unsure of when this filmed because when you get to episode 3, they speak on SK’s second proposal. However at the reunion, they just say they are still dating, she didn’t have an engagement ring on there. They must have filmed all these at the same time.
Yes!!! You're right on the money
👏👏👏 Zay is so emotionally immature and I'm hoping her therapist is calling her on her BS so she can reflect and deeply heal.
I found it interesting that she needed a male therapist specifically and said “I need a man to call me out.” No, girl, you need a professional to call you out and that’s the crux of it. Its totally fine to have a gender preference for your counselor for comfort level. I personally prefer to talk to other women. When Zay says it that way, though, it makes it feel like she’s bringing a weird dynamic to her relationship with her therapist. Maybe I’m extrapolating too much.
I think her therapist just wants to keep her as a patient/client bc she has not matured any since the show 😂
"did he?" LOOL Questions that need answers.
Yay I love that you're doing these episode by episode. Yours is the only take I want to hear on this show...it's such a mess
Does no one remember at the reunion when all the girls said there was a lot of really bad shit Cole said/did that was not shown? I just can’t believe they would feel this strongly about him without knowing a lot more than the audience. Also didn’t Brennon confirm cole kissed a girl at the bachelor party?
Not a fan of who Brennan has become. He is literally just following his wife. I think his frustration comes from within. He is just accepting everything his wife and her family say including the critiques/suggestion his wife makes about their sex life. He does not look happy to me.
I have not watched this season of this show. I did watch the very 1st season. I do agree with the none judgmental stance on how couples chose to “do” their marriage, everyone has a reason they decide and if it works for them they can also decide that they don’t have to explain it to anyone either 🤭. People tend to project their own views onto others and that is often problematic and even more problematic if one doesn’t know who they are ❤
Raven did an interview with Nick Viall that came out a few days ago. She spilled the tea and I would love to hear your perspective on it!
Watch Dr. Steph's face everytime SK comes on the screen! Lol 😆🤣
I felt so bad for Cole. He is being bullied by the group and I am not sure why. Especially when Bartise was much more of a villain in my opinion. Also, Brennan and Alexsa are beginning to make me sick with their sanctimonious judgmental 'Holier than though' posturing and opinions that no one asked for.
Raven talked about EVERYTHING on Nick Viall’s podcast. It’s was good. Man, SK is something else 🥴 if you get a chance to watch, would love to hear your thoughts!
It’s interesting you pointed out After the Alter was filmed before the reunion because I remember seeing Raven walk over to SK to hug him and call him her man and she seemed shut off but she just has that vibe sometimes haha. That’s wild they made her hug him and all that if that came out. Maybe that clip at the end of her crying was filmed right after the reunion? I can see Vanessa being all over that convo if it did come out then. Thinking out loud 😂
I think all the cheating stuff came out after the reunion aired. So that video would have been filmed after the reunion but around that time
@@oliviaoconnor2201 ok I remember it that way also, like very soon after the reunion. Maybe she was embarrassed about production making her walk across the room to him idk
I find it funny how nancy and raven can make jokes about cole but bartise never wanted nancy and sk literally declined raven and was doing stuff. Nasty behavior
Yessss!! Thank you for saying this about Cole. I don’t understand the group bullying- like you said there’s no proof of why everyone hates on him so much. I just don’t see it at all. I felt Zay humiliated him and degraded him & don’t understand at all why she felt he deserved that. No proof - just looks like she has a lot of insecurities.
i would love 2 see an After the Altar for season 3!!!