I have to wonder if it was coordinated or if the poor guy just wanted a Rein mirror with Mr. Rein main himself and his teammates decided to be duckheads with it.
This is the issue with these kinds of truces: You can convince the opposing tank player to do something, but if other players not in the truce know they're going to fight a specific character, they'll just pick characters to counter them.
I had someone ask me for a rein mirror a couple of weeks ago and after I had agreed, they walk out of spawn as Ramatra, Mei, Zen, and i have never been so disappointed in the state of the community as I was in that moment.
I actually uninstalled last night. Idk how long Ill leave but this game just sucks so much right now I cant take it anymore. Time for a much needed break.
@@sonderbain play a game called Titanfall 2. Way different community and it doesn't feel taxing to play. But nevertheless I hope you get a well deserved break from overwatch
@@battel_bruser3928Did the servers get fixed? I never played it but I could swear I heard a lot about how the game got overrun by hackers due to Respawn no longer working on it?
Enemy tank has no control over it. Same shit it a doomfist war one side always has a shithead who goes sombra but I gaurentee the doom doesn't want that shit.
To me the opp rein was doing pretty well and trting his best for the duel but his teammates were just counters to rein which affected the duel. Still seemed pretty good though
The fact that in this game a tank has to run in fear because of a support is so baffling 💀 I miss playing Rein and having fun, now I'm just a big DPS that can be deleted faster than a Hanzo lmao
It's insane how much value you can get by just shooting the tank, the enemy DPSs and the Zen hard focused Flats and he couldn't do anything, either increase Tank's hp or nerf damage overall so that people who only shoot tanks get punished for it.
They should get punished for it anyway. If everyone is focused on the tank it leaves your DPS free to do as they please, which should mean they can kill the enemy supports pretty much for free. The trap is that your team gets sucked in to the tank duel and then whoever has the best anti tank DPS wins. Or you could just pick Orissa so they get no value from shooting you.
I swear rein is one of the few tanks it's actually good to shoot at at times, especially as bastion. Though I would still argue that you get more value from shooting literally anything else.
Earlier this week I had someone say Doom mirror then their comp was Brig/Mercy/Echo/Sombra. I just consider it that if you go a full counter comp the mirror is off and I can play whoever the hell I want
I get it, you know there is a Rein duel going and you want to win. That being said, have a little honor in not picking the literal hardest counters to Rein and Zen.
Alright, I need everyone to upvote this so it makes it to the devs. Stuns should not be able to be chained together on tanks and there should be a delay between all stuns, much like sombra cant chain hack now. Makes no sense that you can be slept, hacked and hindered one after the other for simply existing. This causes skill based interactions where you need to correctly identify when to use a stun and not just press all of your buttons because someone else pressed theirs.
I asked for a doom duel with someone once and his entire team went counter against me it went to a point to where I had to switch he was sad but I mean he blamed his team and throw their game bc he couldn’t get the duel just bc of his team
being sad about not getting a duel is alright. Throwing the game is not. It's still a valid decision to not agree to the duel as his teammates and just go for the win, so throwing their game you are ruining everyones fun, just because you didnt get to be selfish. I wish more people would respect duels like that, but throwing just because they didnt is not ok.
At 10:18 does anyone know what was going on in the match for why he wouldn't try to secure another kill in that fight? Not criticism just trying to understand context for my own tank improvement lol. Cause for me 9 out of 10 times I'm pushing to try and secure another kill especially if I see my support come heal me and the tracer is pretty close to help pinch them.
It's overtime and if he can force the opposing team steps off he wins, he needed to get the contest, after pushing the front line opp back he backed up a bit to make sure he doesn't leave cart completely high and dry in case of a back cap
curious question ik it might not but will the mystic skins from battlepass skins come back out or they goone forever i missed out on the kiriko one so i was hoping they would bring it back out in future does anyone know?
its in qp so its different but i call for rein duels and always say the cavoite that it is voided if the rest of the team decides to go rein bully heroes
There is no respect in this game anymore. Every time I challenge someone to a Rein 1v1 they either don't pick him or swap off, even Rein mains such as Bowie.
Its not that we don't want to rein duel too. Its just everyone else not respecting it. I respect ana duels but they can't do the same when I duel reins?
I've kept my chat off for the entirety of my return to Overwatch, and looking at the comments here I had no idea people ask for mirror matches in chat lol
Mad because bastion is a counter to reins shield in a battle where they’re asking to 1v1. Choosing characters to counter a specific 1v1 is a dickhead move and we all know that, don’t act like you don’t. How is flats supposed to win a rein 1v1 with both no shield (because of bastion) and taking more damage than the other rein (because of zen discord orb). He isn’t, that’s how. It’s lame
Me and Dva wanted a 1V1 and one of the opposing teams was down for it. The rest of the players from both sides cockedblocked us from having fun. Sincerely hated the rest of the match.
I refuse mirrors for this reason, don't care the champ Rein, Sigma, Widow, anything, the only way you can actually prove you're the better player on a character is having literally the exact same outside influence, which is genuinely impossible, even if the entire team mirror matches, it'd show which team is better not which individual player is better. The only circumstances where you can try and show who is better is either a. both teams having identical bot teams, or b. 1v1 ing, which at least as tanks doesn't quite show an accurate match up, bc you don't have the outside pressures of heals and dmgs.
I literally just don’t play tank anymore. unless I have to in mystery heroes but thank god it’s random and there’s a lower possibility of there being a zen. Just sucks man. 100% hp to dead in a blink of an eye.
Tanks take the heat in a losing game yet still they are the most honorable players. Dps? Support? Just chip them by 1.5 if their hp and boom Bastion, boom Zen, boom, Pharah, boom Mercy.
Flats talking about not thinking, describes the way I have always played, down in silver.....:/ I'm a God at this, oh wait, I just fed so hard because I imagined my team was following my crazed aggression. Did you guys know that the point or cart has tether so you can only walk so far from it?
Ngl ow has been excessively cringe since the change to 2 no nobody plays for fun anymore it’s always to hard counter some of the characters making other characters unbearable is crazy to me this use to be the game I just shut my brain off and w key and manage my cooldowns now it’s just who counters who
Zenyatta literally makes the enemies skin turn into paper, bastion kills reins shield (his only mitigation tool) in less than 5 seconds and mei disrupts the LOS needed to heal. Playing rein into this comp is literal torture so the complaints are warranted
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolongNope, the enemy composition is bad only if the team capitalize on that with stuff like Hanzo, Widow or Ash (all ranged heroes that shit on that comp) but Sym and Junk are no good against that.
Rein mirrors aren't what they used to be. I hate when I agree to Rein v Rein and the enemy team is bastion/Zen, Then the other Rein says "Rein diff". Like bro I didn't even get to fight you whole game lmao
I have to wonder if it was coordinated or if the poor guy just wanted a Rein mirror with Mr. Rein main himself and his teammates decided to be duckheads with it.
Probably
Can't control your randoms unfortunately. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt tbh
Yeah it was he even said he doesn't know why he choosed bastion
Tbh flats accepted a rein duel where he had a lucio and the enemy rein didn't in a previous video,it goes both ways
@@Thickdickdaddy420 imagine thinking Lucio is equal to zen+bastion ☠️
This is the issue with these kinds of truces:
You can convince the opposing tank player to do something, but if other players not in the truce know they're going to fight a specific character, they'll just pick characters to counter them.
The one issue with these kinds of videos is the shitty ass twitch TTS
I had someone ask me for a rein mirror a couple of weeks ago and after I had agreed, they walk out of spawn as Ramatra, Mei, Zen, and i have never been so disappointed in the state of the community as I was in that moment.
I actually uninstalled last night. Idk how long Ill leave but this game just sucks so much right now I cant take it anymore. Time for a much needed break.
I had someone say Doom mirror probably because they saw my profile and they came out with Orisa, Sombra, Mei, Zen, and Ana
@@sonderbain last season I would have defended the game, now. Just fo with it. The Bastion meta is really horrible
@@sonderbain play a game called Titanfall 2. Way different community and it doesn't feel taxing to play. But nevertheless I hope you get a well deserved break from overwatch
@@battel_bruser3928Did the servers get fixed? I never played it but I could swear I heard a lot about how the game got overrun by hackers due to Respawn no longer working on it?
6:25 the way he falls is like he slipped and went head-first into the floor lmao
6:12 that "nyoo nyoo nyoooooo!" is what my soul says every time I queue tank
SO TRUE
Rein truce should include no Zen, Bastion.
and mei
Agreed
And reaper
Enemy tank has no control over it. Same shit it a doomfist war one side always has a shithead who goes sombra but I gaurentee the doom doesn't want that shit.
2 people agreed to something. No one else did.
To me the opp rein was doing pretty well and trting his best for the duel but his teammates were just counters to rein which affected the duel. Still seemed pretty good though
The fact that in this game a tank has to run in fear because of a support is so baffling 💀
I miss playing Rein and having fun, now I'm just a big DPS that can be deleted faster than a Hanzo lmao
Gotta love discord and its immediate-25% health
@@AVHD2that and the fact that his secondary could delete half your hp in the first place even without discord orb
@@AVHD220%
Its almost like... tanks are supposed to have a synergistic companion to help cover from other characters abusing their inherent exploitable weakness.
*surpise face!* Nooo Way that can't be right.
Had a game where they walked out on orisa, I swapped to zarya after a bit and he said “zarya? That’s no fun” I’m like dude you are playing orisa
a Rein duel without an Ana is like ordering an icecream cone but without the cone
It's insane how much value you can get by just shooting the tank, the enemy DPSs and the Zen hard focused Flats and he couldn't do anything, either increase Tank's hp or nerf damage overall so that people who only shoot tanks get punished for it.
They should get punished for it anyway. If everyone is focused on the tank it leaves your DPS free to do as they please, which should mean they can kill the enemy supports pretty much for free. The trap is that your team gets sucked in to the tank duel and then whoever has the best anti tank DPS wins. Or you could just pick Orissa so they get no value from shooting you.
I swear rein is one of the few tanks it's actually good to shoot at at times, especially as bastion. Though I would still argue that you get more value from shooting literally anything else.
Earlier this week I had someone say Doom mirror then their comp was Brig/Mercy/Echo/Sombra. I just consider it that if you go a full counter comp the mirror is off and I can play whoever the hell I want
Whoever picks the music for the vids has a direct syringe of nostalgia in the hands. Good Work!
The real highlight of the video was the return of peskycat the flanking hanzo
"That's actually no honor"
*Swaps from Mei to Pharah*
Ironic
least depressing tank match:
The fact that flats character just slumps on the wall in defeat is just hilarious 6:16
“Thats no honour”
**quickly changes back to pharah**
I get it, you know there is a Rein duel going and you want to win. That being said, have a little honor in not picking the literal hardest counters to Rein and Zen.
That nyo nyo nyo with Mei's ult in the background is every tanks nightmare xD
dps player "have some honor challange" (impossible)
The legend of Pesky cat continues
My heart went into my throat when I saw Flats at 8HP at Ram and still lived 😂 he has such good supports omg
bastion, mei, zen is just straight up evil
its like running the doomfist mirror and one team has sombra brig zen
“I’m just hitting buttons and hoping things happen.”
Knowing one of the best of the best just has these games sometimes makes me feel a lot better.
Alright, I need everyone to upvote this so it makes it to the devs. Stuns should not be able to be chained together on tanks and there should be a delay between all stuns, much like sombra cant chain hack now. Makes no sense that you can be slept, hacked and hindered one after the other for simply existing. This causes skill based interactions where you need to correctly identify when to use a stun and not just press all of your buttons because someone else pressed theirs.
I asked for a doom duel with someone once and his entire team went counter against me it went to a point to where I had to switch he was sad but I mean he blamed his team and throw their game bc he couldn’t get the duel just bc of his team
being sad about not getting a duel is alright. Throwing the game is not. It's still a valid decision to not agree to the duel as his teammates and just go for the win, so throwing their game you are ruining everyones fun, just because you didnt get to be selfish. I wish more people would respect duels like that, but throwing just because they didnt is not ok.
@@Moehre040 ik I told him he was petty but he didn’t seem to care ig it’s bc we don’t get duels anymore
And dey say chivalry is ded
@@shimziniand dey say and dey say and dey say and dey say chivalry is ded
I don't blame that guy one bit
That song at the beginning unlocked memories❤
5:32 - 5:36 My tank experience for the last few matches i played. FeelsBadMan... (High gold / hitting plat)
Anyways, ❤ you Flats, great content.
6:08 I freaking can’t 😂😂😂
"Suffer as I have" was quite applicable in the second match 😅
that music thats playing as flats gets countered by zen mei hits hard
As someone who lives by honor,that comp is disgusting.
At 10:18 does anyone know what was going on in the match for why he wouldn't try to secure another kill in that fight? Not criticism just trying to understand context for my own tank improvement lol. Cause for me 9 out of 10 times I'm pushing to try and secure another kill especially if I see my support come heal me and the tracer is pretty close to help pinch them.
It's overtime and if he can force the opposing team steps off he wins, he needed to get the contest, after pushing the front line opp back he backed up a bit to make sure he doesn't leave cart completely high and dry in case of a back cap
The laugh at 13:00 when rein explodes trying to ult, thats just wrong coming from you flats😂
This whole video is just pain as a fellow tank player :(
"no honour" goes pharah, yep that's overwatch
need that tips and tricks video flats!
curious question ik it might not but will the mystic skins from battlepass skins come back out or they goone forever i missed out on the kiriko one so i was hoping they would bring it back out in future does anyone know?
I would assume they're gone for good. Only because it was for the battle pass sadly (I missed genji/JQ
@@Mercuryy016 well danm thanks
Comment for the editor. That Enderman teleport noise when he took tele… Mint.
its in qp so its different but i call for rein duels and always say the cavoite that it is voided if the rest of the team decides to go rein bully heroes
i’m never surprised to see bastion he’s so overused at this point
I feel like I've seen this video title three times from Flats
A few days ago a random enemy Rein and I were trying to have a good ol Rein 1v1 and his team kept interfering with it.
The DK64 music worked very well for this lol
Video of me playing Zarya into full Winston dive, or Rein Mei/Widow/Bastion
The least you could do to help rein is make him so he can't get headshot he's just so bad rn
My new fav saying is 'with inflation its like 10 gifted'
Kiriko at 6:47 is so hilarious
Question if mei blizzard needs LOS do shields not block the ult?
Big creds to Roadrunner for using Grant Kirkhope music in the vid!🙏
Did yall notice the end of R1 kill feed @4:05? It was all Support :/ thats what wrong with the current iteration of OW2.
There is no respect in this game anymore. Every time I challenge someone to a Rein 1v1 they either don't pick him or swap off, even Rein mains such as Bowie.
because rein duels are non-existent in ow2. It’s all about who got zen/and whose kiriko knows how to suzu
Its not that we don't want to rein duel too. Its just everyone else not respecting it. I respect ana duels but they can't do the same when I duel reins?
Nah bro, I go for a rein duel and enemy rein has ana lucio while I get a moira and a lifeweaver.
@@lukasg4807 life weaver's fine tbh? he can sometime save you since you can't get out sometimes
@@themaskwhite9612 Is it better to win, or to not lose?
someone asking Flats for a rein duel = the entire enemy team is gonna be "dueling" him
No, I mean it will block but it will fall on the ground and still activate
I've kept my chat off for the entirety of my return to Overwatch, and looking at the comments here I had no idea people ask for mirror matches in chat lol
This donkey Kong soundtrack slaps
💯
Rein v rein is always a noble play. Rein v bastion is... problematic.
flats, as a rein main is just meant to be in pain. it is inherent to the rectangle man life
Mad when bastion gets the same value at T500 as he does in Gold
Mad because bastion is a counter to reins shield in a battle where they’re asking to 1v1. Choosing characters to counter a specific 1v1 is a dickhead move and we all know that, don’t act like you don’t. How is flats supposed to win a rein 1v1 with both no shield (because of bastion) and taking more damage than the other rein (because of zen discord orb). He isn’t, that’s how. It’s lame
Mei players....still the most absolute demonic gamers ever.
this video defines the rein experience
good thing all the lost fights from 2nd game are cut out LUL
How many videos is he going to make saying he doesn’t do rein duels anymore in the title
Why not swap?
your laugh is so funny, i love it 😆💗
LOVE THE DK64 MUSIC!!!
I REALLY wanna play Donkey Kong 64 for some reason...
Bro flats is hilarious
The only fun thing about rein duels are just blocking shatter imo
Bastion, zen for rein duel…fun
Me and Dva wanted a 1V1 and one of the opposing teams was down for it. The rest of the players from both sides cockedblocked us from having fun. Sincerely hated the rest of the match.
I refuse mirrors for this reason, don't care the champ Rein, Sigma, Widow, anything, the only way you can actually prove you're the better player on a character is having literally the exact same outside influence, which is genuinely impossible, even if the entire team mirror matches, it'd show which team is better not which individual player is better. The only circumstances where you can try and show who is better is either a. both teams having identical bot teams, or b. 1v1 ing, which at least as tanks doesn't quite show an accurate match up, bc you don't have the outside pressures of heals and dmgs.
Title: I don’t like rien duals
5 seconds into the video: *accepts dual*
Mfs really want to play in the most uninteractive ways just for 20 SR points.
"one more video" i say again
The music is way too loud i can barely hear them talking
nah if they pull this stuff on me i'm breaking the truce
I literally just don’t play tank anymore. unless I have to in mystery heroes but thank god it’s random and there’s a lower possibility of there being a zen. Just sucks man. 100% hp to dead in a blink of an eye.
sin't this a really old video? I swear I saw this like some weeks ago.
Tanks take the heat in a losing game yet still they are the most honorable players. Dps? Support? Just chip them by 1.5 if their hp and boom Bastion, boom Zen, boom, Pharah, boom Mercy.
Flats talking about not thinking, describes the way I have always played, down in silver.....:/
I'm a God at this, oh wait, I just fed so hard because I imagined my team was following my crazed aggression.
Did you guys know that the point or cart has tether so you can only walk so far from it?
MUMA THE OUTLAWS OG
"No honor" - picks Pharah 😂😂😂
Mei - The Demon Lord
rein duels aren’t even rein duels, it’s a competition to see who blows up less
Every Tank Main Waste Nightmare like Balance Team think we wanted this 🤦🏽
Ngl ow has been excessively cringe since the change to 2 no nobody plays for fun anymore it’s always to hard counter some of the characters making other characters unbearable is crazy to me this use to be the game I just shut my brain off and w key and manage my cooldowns now it’s just who counters who
Y’all got junk rat against them with sym, dont get the complaints here
Only gold and under complains about junk and sym.
@@MOTH-Machinethis man is definitely bronze lmao. Sym Junk is infinitely more preferable than that of bastion mei zen.
Zenyatta literally makes the enemies skin turn into paper, bastion kills reins shield (his only mitigation tool) in less than 5 seconds and mei disrupts the LOS needed to heal. Playing rein into this comp is literal torture so the complaints are warranted
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolongNope, the enemy composition is bad only if the team capitalize on that with stuff like Hanzo, Widow or Ash (all ranged heroes that shit on that comp) but Sym and Junk are no good against that.
LETS GOOOOO
U beat me 😢
Rein mirrors aren't what they used to be. I hate when I agree to Rein v Rein and the enemy team is bastion/Zen, Then the other Rein says "Rein diff". Like bro I didn't even get to fight you whole game lmao
true
Play 1v1and they will go Zen+Bastion
Don't do it and they will call you a coward.
Can't win honestly.
Good lord
Its a flats diff
play rein coward
How about lets play rein without zen or bastion :D
PeskyCat putting in work.
Lmao, getting diffed by Rein, on Ramm. I can't xd
day 1 of asking for flats to make a zen apology video
my man you gonna be waiting a long time
Flats using the bronze mentality