Is the Volair Forza really the best paddle?
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2023
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Taking a closer look at the Volair Forza today to see if it's the best paddle on the market.
The Volair Forza is Volair's first thermoformed paddle and comes in a 14mm and 16mm variant.
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I love the use of pop AND power. I think it’s important to make that distinction. Great vid, Will!
The paddle grabs the ball like a tennis racquet with strings! I’ve tried the Joola Perseus and Selkirk Invicta, they don’t compare. I’m only able to hit my tennis topspin forehand over the net and in the court with this paddle! It’s a game changer!
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Great review will, just gave this bad boy an order
I’m a chop/slice guy, this is the the paddle for me!
Always glad to see Will post! Are you still playing with the Ronbus in tournaments? I ask cause we have very similar play styles, thanks!
Right now I’m playing still and the Filth has been my main daily driver between testing paddles. Still love the R3P but I’m now starting to gravitate more towards low swing weight paddles as I am playing way more doubles
Hey Will. My main paddle is the BnB Filth. I think that's also your main paddle as well. How does it compare to the Filth in terms of control, feel, and swing weight? Other comparisons would be great too.
It’s more poppy, has a little more feedback/vibrations, the control is similar, and the swing weight is less than the filth. It’s pretty similar to the R1 Pulsar but with more feedback and a bit more spin
Iv been playing with this paddle ( 16mm )with a little led tape on it and I absolutely love it…..
yea it's a good stick for sure glad you been enjoying it
Where’d you put your tape
Can you review the Summit 2 NorCal paddle? I just bought it and wanted to see what you think.
Hey Will. All of the brand's 30 day return policies are not the same. Volair is excellent. Use it as much as you want for a month and get a full refund. Ronbus and SixZero were the worst... No test drive at all. They have recently changed their policies so now you can return a used paddle and pay a restocking fee plus shipping. It would be helpful for us if you could mention those details in a paddle review. Some of these brands websites are pretty iffy and it takes some work to actually find the policy. Thx
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Pretty much agree with you . I've been using 14 mm and the loving it. My only concern if it's going to delaminate and there somewhat sort warranty.
Hey, how about we have a race? I have the Forza 16 mm. You have the 14. Post here if/when either one bites the dust. This is my fifth hot molded paddle, with the other four going bad in a fairly short amount of time. I expect this one will be the same, but you can always hope.
@@sexysurfergal541 I've had to return 6 paddles because of delamination. I'm about to give up on thermal formed paddles.
@@thomasbottorff9324 The newer ones from Ronbus, Vatic and Six Zero are doing really good. Vatic, we still need to wait..but to other two, i havent seen any delamination in about 3 months of my use. Six Zero especially has come out of core crushing as well as delamination issues quite well...ROnbus also brought out it's NOVA to tackle these issues....so jury is out for that as well for some time atleast
Been using loco and really like it overall, especially light weight, kitchen fast hands. But im noticing now it doesnt have much drive power which i like. Would this m1f be any better for my needs and overall coming from a loco or better off on another paddle?
😅Great reviews. Curious if you have tried the Mach 2 Forza 14 mm or 16mm (thermoformed/wideboy). If so, would like your perspective even though I know you prefer elongated paddles.
They are both great. I prefer the 14mm Mach 2 Forza. It’s honestly not a huge change coming from an elongated paddle. If you rarely play singles I think that more standard shape is pretty awesome and I could easily switch to it. Handle is long enough for 2BH, spin is great, maneuverability also good
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Im coming off a 16mm CRBN 2X to a 14mm Mach . Hoping to increase spin and touch, did I make a mistake? If I did should I go with something else.
I would have gone with the 16mm version for additional touch and usually go with 16mm for touch but with that being said I haven't spent much time with the 14mm Forza at all. The Nova from Ronbus could be a good option if you really wanted to get more touch in your shots.
are you planning a video on the SLK Omega XL?
No real plans for the SLK Omega but I think that paddle is a great paddle to go for if you just have a tough time choosing. It's a paddle that will tell you if you like certain things about a paddle (ie need more power, more speed, more spin, if you want edgless, etc)
are there any major differences between this curved edge shape and a standard elongated shape that has a more square face?
Not really in my opinion. There probably is but it’s pretty much negligible for 99% of players and you will not notice the difference
Do you think if I add lead at the grip / lowest part of the paddle it will help control its power / luanchiness ?
I have 2g per inch lead tape running from about 1" above the grip to about 1" below the logo on the side. About 5" per strip. adds about .3oz to the paddle. The paddle weighs about 8.4oz total. I watched several pros set up their paddle's and most have it in that spot. Actually got the idea from a Ben Johns set up video so I figured why not try it. I feel like the paddle absorbs the ball more and rebounds off the face smoother. Dinks feel more smooth and controlled as well.
Where did you get the red edge tape for your paddle?
That one was given to me by PickleballEffect. You can go to his site to see if he still us some in stock but he’s been working on getting more colors and more stock
What's the biggest differentiator between The Mach 1 in The Mach 1 Forza?
Power and pop. The Forza will feel stiff
Hey Will, I just thought of a topic you and Chris could chat about that I and some others would find interesting (if not just for a little bit). With all the controversy of paddle challenging recently, why are there such strict requirements on paddles. For instance other than dimensions essential, tennis rackets have very few regulations, you use what you hit best with even if it’s the most powerful racket ever, so why are things like delams or certain materials banned in pickleball.
Is it just to close the skill gap?
Can’t speak on how strict the tennis racket requirements are but tennis has been around for much longer while pickleball is still figuring things out. I would guess it has to do with skill gap and how the governing body wants the game to be played. We have touched on it before but maybe we will revisit it again soon. We still a long way from having something settled
The difference between this paddle and the Ronbus Nova R1?
R1 is heavier, more stable, more muted. The Forza is more poppy and faster in the hands
Can you compare this to Ronbus, Vatic and Six zero will? Where does this stand?
it's a lighter R1 Pulsar with more pop and feedback closer to the regular Vatic V7 Pro
@@PickleballWill I have to try vatic once...i have a pulsar and a DBD...and i love them both...but i need to try flash and v7 once
This is the best paddle I've ever used
Hey will not sure if I missed it but was this review for the 16mm or 14mm?
I’m deciding between going with a 14mm DBD or this one have you used a 14mm DBD if so what’s the difference between the paddles?
Hey this is the 16mm forza and the 16mm forza and 14mm DBD feel pretty similar to me. I would personally choose the Forza over the 14mm DBD mostly because of the full elongated shape. Although 14mm DBD feels more stable fresh out of the box
Hi Will, is it more or less powerful than the (single) BD of 6.0? Recently I ordered a new BD, I noticed that at contact, it has a hollower and shattered feedback... It's wasn't as solid as my older one. Maybe it's just an one off? I do like the stiffer and solid feel from the paddle.
I actually heard the new single BD don’t play as powerful as the old ones. I haven’t confirmed this myself but comparing to the old BD I think the BD still has more power. BD I think feels more solid
@@PickleballWill Thanks Will. I am in the process of deciding to try the Volair or the R1 Pulsar on my on dime. Going to do some more research.
Owned both play real similar with the Forza you get a headcover and paddle eraser
@@PickleballWill definitely less power with the new BD.
Best power paddle?
CRBN1x 14mm, ProDrive Carbon, Power Air, Vatic V7 Pro are probably the best power paddles out there in my opinion if power is the main priority.
So was this a 14mm in the review? Dont think the 16 comes in at 7.8-7.9 oz
This was a 16mm
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They are all pretty much the same… bought pretty much all of them. Bought the Prodrive Drive Carbon and was totally shocked… that much better. I’m not affiliated with any brand and money is not an issue.
I like that ProDrive carbon quite a bit
@@PickleballWill Engineering design wise, they’ve addressed kinetic energy the best with EVA (not legal) foam paddles like the Vice and the NewEra being better.
they are all almost the same
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