The New HIGHEST SPINNING Paddle in 2023: Volair Forza Review

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    I had to share these results with you! The brand-new Volair Forza Mach 1 is an insane paddle. I'm all about spin numbers and this paddle is now #1 on my spin test ranking. Everything I do is for the community and I am trying to bring unbiased information so you can make a more informed decision on your next pickleball paddle!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 222

  • @MrLouisjB
    @MrLouisjB Рік тому +7

    So as you requested, I'm getting back to you after purchasing the Forza paddle based on your review. I have played a few times and practiced with it a lot (hitting several thousand balls) since I received it. Here is the bottom line about the Forza paddle in my opinion: it is very powerful and has excellent control. When serving hard you will have to take some power off the swing or back up a step or two. It is great for dinking and excellent for hitting specific spots when practicing on a wall. In addition, the paddle eraser that came with it really works. I would recommend this paddle. For comparison, my last paddle was a Selkirk Power Air. The Forza is better at everything. Thanks for the help.

  • @ddyoder
    @ddyoder Рік тому +11

    Gotta compare this to SixZero DBD 16mm... probably a great side-by-side to show -- ESPECIALLY if the 6.0 DBD is backordered through most of 2023 while the Volair Mach 1 is almost immediately available as of mid-July '23

    • @johncissel5481
      @johncissel5481 Рік тому +1

      yes!!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +3

      That's a great point man. DBD is quite legendary. That's one of the paddles next up in my review, and along with the pulsar the only paddle that comes close to the forza in my testing. I think the forza edges it out just a bit in spin and sweet spot. I've been grabbing the forza more often over the DBD and the Pulsar. And you're right the fact that you can't get a DBD for a very long time in comparison to how quick you can get a brand new Forza and their fix for delamination is making the forza look pretty freaking sweet right now.

    • @mlee9049
      @mlee9049 Рік тому +1

      @stspickleball Hi, what about the Legacy? I get great spin, and I did not see it listed in your comparison. Did you test this one?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      @@mlee9049 for me the legacy pro got 1873RPM of spin. So about 300 less rpm. Power is relative, legacy is more poppy in my testing. Slightly smaller sweet spot in comparison to the forza. It's a solid paddle but the legacy does have consistent delamination issues aswell.

    • @mlee9049
      @mlee9049 Рік тому +1

      @stspickleball I see. I may of missed it. Did you test the 14 or 16 mm Forza?

  • @sammoles5236
    @sammoles5236 Місяць тому +1

    Great review!! How would you say it would compare to the Vatic V7 Pro.. I ask cos thats the only other thermoformed paddle Ive used and would appreciate your take on it. Thanks!!!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Місяць тому

      I would skip the Vatic no matter how it compares. Vatics are known to delaminate / core crush and I wouldn’t spend my hard earned money on their thermoformed paddles. The prisms are great though.

  • @BobMcVinua
    @BobMcVinua 3 місяці тому +1

    You still think this is a strong paddle choice in 2024? I know there have been other great paddles released since, looking to upgrade out of the base model paddles currently playing with the Selkirk Sport Latitude

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  3 місяці тому

      Oh man coming from the paddle you’re using anything is going to be so fun and amazing for you. My personal favorite paddles right now are the Honolulu J2K, Spartus Apollo, and the Paddletek TKO-CX 12.7mm. If you just wanna get a paddle and not think about it too much I’d grab a J2K and just enjoy it!

  • @aldocooper1870
    @aldocooper1870 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey! This is an older test now. I have a CRBN 3X and am considering a 60 DBD, are you still thinking the Volair is better over all than either of these? Thanks!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  4 місяці тому

      I’d get a Honolulu J2K or a Spartus Apollo over either of those now days! Watch my reviews on them they are top tier and very current tech.

  • @mlinton3007
    @mlinton3007 Рік тому +5

    Super review and enthusiasm. Appreciate your passion and info. Geez, I want to buy ANOTHER dang paddle

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      Hahaha I have the same feeling every day 😂😂 I wanna buy every paddle I see and try them all! 😂 thanks for the kind words!

  • @dylangrishaber
    @dylangrishaber Рік тому +1

    unfortunately found this video late but i love the review. I used your code as well when I bought the paddle! Still have to wait with the back order but I can not wait until my paddle arrives. Keep up the great video work and effort!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Thank you very much I appreciate that so much! The Forza is a freaking BEAST of a paddle :)

  • @davehansen1169
    @davehansen1169 9 місяців тому +1

    Wondering if you have tried the Mach 2 Forza (widebody, thermoformed) and wondered what your thoughts are. I am intrigued by the 14mm. I currently play with the Vatic Pro Prism Flash 16mm. Thanks and great reviews.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  9 місяців тому +1

      Yes and I honestly really love it. I think it's GREAT for drops and control and the 14mm has some solid pop to it. I think it out performs the Vatic Pro Prism Flash :). Go 14mm if you're ok with a smaller sweet spot but more pop and go 16mm if you want a larger sweet spot, more control, but a bit less pop! :) And of course you can use my code STSPICKLEBALL if you want!

    • @indkeith
      @indkeith 9 місяців тому +1

      @@stspickleball I have the 14mm Mach 1 Forza. Love that spin! How is the spin on Mach 2 Forza? It looks like the swing weight of the 16mm Forza 2 is almost the same as my 14mm Forza 1 I prefer a lower swing weight so I'm thinking of trying this 16mm Forza 2 now.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  8 місяців тому

      It’s amazing man it’s my go to paddle right now. That one and the Ruby!

  • @damiencoffey2391
    @damiencoffey2391 Рік тому +1

    The 16mm Mach 1 paddle grabs the ball like a tennis racquet with strings! I’ve tried the Joola Perseus and Selkirk Invicta, they don’t compare. I’m only able to hit my tennis topspin forehand over the net and in the court with this paddle! It’s a game changer! Also the box it comes in and extras it comes with, it just feels like I made a quality purchase. Glad I was able get that $500 spent on those other two paddles.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Love this!! :) Glad you're enjoying it I honestly agree with everything you said it's a really great paddle

    • @oilerlord6513
      @oilerlord6513 10 місяців тому +1

      So stoked to try out my new Mach 1 tomorrow as a lot of my servers and drives with the Selkirk Epic are now going long due to the paddle face as smooth as it now become
      @stspickleball keep them reviews coming, and thanks for the science on your spin tests!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  10 місяців тому

      @@oilerlord6513 heck yeah!! That’s what it’s all about man. I appreciate the positive vibes and the comment! You’re gonna love it. No spray on grit garbage just high quality materials 😊

  • @ryandelacruz7467
    @ryandelacruz7467 Рік тому +2

    After watching Johnkew’s video on carbon fiber. Noticed that Volair doesn’t use a more “premium” Toray T700 carbon fiber. Would be curious to see the durability of the spin of this paddle compared to the Ronbus/DBD a few months down the road. Great review by the way, some really high quality stuff.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +2

      Thank you man! Yeah I asked them about that, the owner told me it’s another top brand of T700. I’ll definitely keep you posted on longevity and I’ll do a follow up video later on down the road to confirm everything I’m learning from Volair. Thanks for the positive feedback man! I definitely welcome positive comments and criticism. We’re all in this together for sure.

  • @kimballlloyd1127
    @kimballlloyd1127 9 місяців тому +1

    Any updates on the durability of the paddle still!? Seriously considering this one since it has power but does well with the control aspect

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  9 місяців тому +1

      Durability is top tier. I would highly recommend the Mach 1 Forza :) I am still using the same one and have had zero issues and no loss in spin since I posted the review a while back!

  • @manishsuthar3287
    @manishsuthar3287 Рік тому +1

    Great video and super enthusiastic. I just ordered my 14mm Forza. I currently play with the crbn 13mm which is a great paddle. Do you think this paddle 14mm Forza has more power than the 16mm?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Yes the 14mm will have more power and a touch more spin, at the cost of some control and some feel as it will be a bit poppier. You're gonna love it man!!

  • @JustPaddles
    @JustPaddles Рік тому +4

    10 out of 10 intro 🤣

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +2

      Lol dude I had so much fun doing that. I love being creative and goofy. Took me back to making some stupid ass home movies with my friends growing up. 😂😂😂 people probably thought I looked like a weirdo talking to myself in the car with the police lights on behind me 😂

  • @MosesDas
    @MosesDas Рік тому +2

    I’m a 4.5+ player and still playing with the original CRBN 16mm. Just wondering if this is too much power for me? I already create alot of power but don’t want to have too much where it flies on serves and stays too high on dinks. Think this paddle is for high level play as well? I unfortunately jumped on the Joola Perseus train due to the control and low swing weight to have alot of power but re-thinking due to this and the R3 Pulsar amongst others. Kinda overwhelmed with so many choices and not being able to demo them like I do with tennis rackets.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      I don't think its unmanageable but it depends on what you prioritize. If you're looking for a softer more control oriented paddle I can steer you in the right direction. I love the Forza and think it can do incredibly well in tournament play. I use it personally. If you wanna tell me what you want a paddle to feel like I can help you out!

    • @MosesDas
      @MosesDas Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball So I bought the R3 Pulsar but still open to suggestions if that doesn't work out. I am a tennis player with 20+ years experience so I would love a paddle thats soft and with great feel but can put away balls from the baseline or just come back very fast to my opp. I tend to steer towards the elongated paddle vs the hybrid ones. I have a one handed backhand as well and use topspin. Thanks!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      @@MosesDas Honestly for now I think you nailed it. I would say the Pulsar fits that bill perfectly! The Double Black Diamond would be one to consider there for sure!

  • @shanewilson9906
    @shanewilson9906 Рік тому +3

    Great review! I really enjoy paddle reviews that have accurate stats b/c most of the time I can’t demo a paddle before I order it these days. Stats at least help me weed out some possibilities.
    Do you know swing weight of the Forza? I saw the number for the Mach 1 but didn’t know if Forza was similar.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Thank you so much man!! So I had another comment on swing weight and I don't have a swing weight machine yet, but I emailed Volair and they said they are going to get back to me on it very soon. I'll let you know when I find out!

    • @shanewilson9906
      @shanewilson9906 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball ok sounds good! I wish that were a standard thing companies put on there. I saw an ad for 1 paddle( not sure what it was now but not something I had heard of) but they had it listed with their specs which was surprising.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      @@shanewilson9906 That means they are paying attention haha. And yes it should DEFINITELY be a standard thing. I'd say any company posting that is a good sign generally speaking haha.

    • @namtran512
      @namtran512 Рік тому +1

      If I had to guess, based on the shape it's gotta be something close to the R1 Pulsar 5.5 Inch.

    • @scottfrancis13
      @scottfrancis13 Рік тому +1

      Pulsar is a great paddle

  • @hothair5156
    @hothair5156 Рік тому +1

    Choice between Volair Forza Mach 1 and Ronbus Pulsar R3? Please anyone let me know. I love the spin of the Ronbus R1.16 but I know these 2 paddles have a ton more power and pop.

  • @robertbenjamin5230
    @robertbenjamin5230 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for all your content, effort and enthusiasm. I have found your reviews enjoyable and informative. Definitely intrigued by this new Volair. I’ve been playing with the Bread and Butter Filth for about a month and like it a lot. Great spin and control.
    Do you know the swing weight of the new Volair?
    Thanks again. Bob

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      I don't. I don't actually have a swing weight machine yet. I'll try and find out and I'll get back to you if/when I get an answer! BnB filth is a great paddle! Also just think it's a cool company with a really nice owner which is always nice.

    • @robertbenjamin5230
      @robertbenjamin5230 Рік тому +1

      According to Pickleball Pirates the Forza has a swing weight of 114. Also by way of feedback they say the spin rate is 1940 rpm. Still good but not off the charts like you came up with. Just sayin. Keep up the good work

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      ​@@robertbenjamin5230 Thanks man! I will say there can be some human variables to this process for sure. But this was by far the highest spinning paddle I have ever tested, and I did do more than my usual amount of serves with this one and took a larger average because the number was quite a bit higher than I had originally expected. I am all about transparency and welcome comments like this as I just want to share the info I'm finding with the community. I definitely appreciate the feedback and the positivity!

    • @robertbenjamin5230
      @robertbenjamin5230 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball no criticism intended. Just remarking how different reviewers might get slightly different results understandably. I guess paddle evaluations will be most reliable when looking at the numbers from within one source as you indicated. 👍👊

    • @robertbenjamin5230
      @robertbenjamin5230 Рік тому +1

      Have you done spin tests on the B & B Filth yet?

  • @randywerner1339
    @randywerner1339 10 місяців тому +1

    how would you compare this to the DBD in terms of durability and overall performance? thanks!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  10 місяців тому +1

      Durability is very relative, the Forza has higher spin and has a bit more power on drives, but a bit less pop for hand battles etc. it’s a very relative experience overall with just more spin, and a bit more rip on drives and serves 😊😊 both top tier paddles 100%

    • @randywerner1339
      @randywerner1339 10 місяців тому +1

      @@stspickleball Thanks! I ordered the new double black diamond infinity!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  10 місяців тому

      @@randywerner1339 nice man!! Yeah the edgeless is really a beautiful paddle.

  • @krystianczaja9253
    @krystianczaja9253 Рік тому +1

    Thoughts on lead tape on this paddle if so where?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      I put 1 5 inch strip of lead tape at the 5 and 8 o'clock positions. I usually start the tape around 1 inch before the bottom curve of the paddle and have it come up the sides a bit! I think that feels perfect for me and has been my go to on basically all paddles!

    • @krystianczaja9253
      @krystianczaja9253 Рік тому

      @@stspickleball So basically from the neck of the paddle to like almost half the paddle?

  • @AC20133
    @AC20133 Рік тому +1

    Any insight on swing weight?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      Ok he got back to me and said it's approx 117!

  • @braves2510
    @braves2510 10 місяців тому +1

    Do you use any lead tape on the Forza? If so, what’s your set up?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  10 місяців тому +1

      1 5” strip of 1 gram per inch lead tape starting 1 inch from the grip and coming up the throat and into the sides of the paddle on both sides. I put electrical tape down first, then lead tape, then electrical tape over it so I can take it off if I ever need to without damaging the edge guard 😊

    • @braves2510
      @braves2510 10 місяців тому +1

      Do you cover the whole paddle in electric tape or just the area of the lead tape?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  10 місяців тому +1

      @@braves2510 doesn’t matter either way it’s just aesthetics at that point! I used to cover the whole paddle but now I just cover the area with lead to save time 😂

  • @prasiththammasithiboon4194
    @prasiththammasithiboon4194 Рік тому +1

    Could you compare this to the Legacy Pro aside from the delam and loose edge guard issues?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Absolutely, so for me the Legacy pro is going to be a bit more poppy and it will have a harder time on resets I've found. Dinking and resets with the Forza feel really balanced and ideal for a thermoformed paddle. I would say the Legacy might be like a 9.6 as far as power goes but a bit more powerful but it feels uncontrollable almost. I think the Forza feels really balanced for all parts of the game and also has a higher spin than the Legacy. In my testing the Legacy came in at 1898 RPM of spin so around 250 less RPM than the Forza :) If you have any other questions please let me know!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      But yeah the delam and loose edge guard issues are definitely a problem for the Legacy that you will not have to deal with if you get a Forza.

  • @zmaust15
    @zmaust15 10 місяців тому +1

    I rotate three forza's. By far my favorite paddle. Right behind it is the DBD. I have lead tape from about 1" above the the grip tape up to about 1" below the logo. 2 gram per inch tape. Takes the total weight to about 8.4oz.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  10 місяців тому

      Love this man. It’s just a really freaking solid paddle. 10/10 in my book glad we are on the same page and thank you for taking the time to comment and connect 😊

  • @stratelyze2095
    @stratelyze2095 Рік тому +1

    I have used Prokennex as well as lots of my friends due to their tennis elbow protection. How is the Forza and or Ronbus for vibration and shock absorption for tennis elbow. I have a Black Ace that is a nice paddle but would like a little more control and softness. Thanks

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      I think the forza and the R3 pulsar at some of the best paddles I've ever tested for tennis elbow. I think I'd give the edge to the forza overall they really nailed this one!

  • @jylarouche1151
    @jylarouche1151 Рік тому +3

    What’s the difference between this paddle and the Ronbus Pulsar R1?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +2

      Pulsar is mainly just going to be softer. This paddle has more power, and more spin, whereas the pulsar has that sort of cushiony face feel. Some people love that! They are really similar overall. I have a video on the R1 and the R3 pulsar up! If I had to choose between the two right now id take this Forza. It's insane. Also the fact that they have fixed the delaminating issues, and didn't release a thermoformed paddle until they had that solved unlike other companies really is a huge win in my eyes. But yeah this is gonna feel a little firmer off the face, is going to have more power, and more spin than the pulsar. If you have any other questions let me know!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +2

      @@GageMersereauGM I'd grab the forza. The pop feels extremely manageable. I have both pulsars and I do love them very much. The amount of spin and feel you get makes up for the added power in that you'll get more diving balls on drives so the power isn't sending it out of the court. Id say off center dinks and resets feel slightly less punishing with the forza aswell in comparison to the pulsar. Both incredible paddles though. They are my top two picks right now. I have a pulsar video up aswell if you wanna check it out! But I've been naturally grabbing the forza out of my bag with excitement recently and that's telling for sure from a mental perspective.

    • @braddaddis371
      @braddaddis371 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball I realize you can’t measure the swing weight yet, but would you say it’s similar to the R1 Pulsar? Or close to the R3 if you had to guess? Also, would you say the pop is similar to the R1 Pulsar? I realize the Forza is not as soft as the R3, but any help regarding the R1 Pulsar/Forza comparison is helpful. Thank you

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      @@braddaddis371 so I just picked them both up and did some hand speed tests on them just personally and I would say the forza feels more balanced for hand speed than either of the pulsars. Maybe most similar to the R3 but still maybe a touch more balanced for hand speed.

    • @braddaddis371
      @braddaddis371 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball thank you so much!!! One last question. If you have the CRBN 1X, would you say the stiffness off the face is similar, stiffer or softer? Thanks! Huge help

  • @stratelyze2095
    @stratelyze2095 Рік тому +1

    Will the technology used for spin be inclined to wear down very rapidly. Thanks

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      No this is a very high quality paddle made for longevity :)

  • @jamjam2137
    @jamjam2137 Рік тому +1

    how would you compare the Volair Mach 1 Forza to the Legacy Pro? Which actually has the most power in your opinion Thanks

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      I think they are very similar in power to be honest. I doubt you'd notice a difference. I'd say the forza has better feel, better sweet spot, a lot more spin, and the legacy pro has known delamination and manufacturing issues (people delaminating it within a week or two of purchase) whereas the Forza is insanely durable and will last a very very long time ☺️

  • @Levithecreator
    @Levithecreator Рік тому +1

    Awesome video, love the passion!! Curious how you think this compares to a regular Mach 1? Is it worth upgrading? Is there a place for both or is Forza the clear best choice?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      I'd say the original Mach 1 is softer and more feel oriented. The Forza has more spin and quite a lot more power! So it kind of comes down to what you value in your game!!

  • @MrkWil1234
    @MrkWil1234 7 місяців тому +1

    Used your spreadsheet and reviews to decide on the Mach 2 Forza. Thanks for the discount code!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  7 місяців тому

      Awesome! Yeah the spin on that paddle is absolutely insanity lol

  • @devinneuweiler8961
    @devinneuweiler8961 Рік тому +2

    Another great video man! Paddle looks sick!!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Thanks man that means a lot! Been putting a lot of time and passion into this. I'm glad they help!

  • @supravmishra3030
    @supravmishra3030 Рік тому +2

    great video i was all set with getting a ronbus pulsar R3, got the dollar reservation code. but after this review I am thinking of getting the volair forza especially since there is no wait time for this one.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      No wait time yet! Yeah I agree with that. They are definitely some of the top paddles available along with the double black diamond but like you said there's no wait for the forza and it does get the most spin I've tested. You're gonna love this paddle.

    • @godgunsandgoldens
      @godgunsandgoldens Рік тому +1

      No wait time right now for R3 either. ordered mine day before yesterday coming today. This will be my second R3. It’s the only thermoformed elongated paddle that I can control but still have enough pop to attack effectively. The new Volair Forza sounds like a great paddle but I can tell by STS description is too fast for my game and will pop up resets and dinks much easier than the R3. I’ve tried all the latest greatest thermoformed paddles and the R3 is the most controllable with more sweet spot and enough functional power to give me confidence on the court.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      @@godgunsandgoldens love this! The R3 pulsar is easily one of the best paddles out right now. They both definitely have their pros and their cons. I appreciate the feedback man! How long did your first R3 last and why did you feel you needed a new one out of curiosity?

    • @Positively46
      @Positively46 Рік тому

      Same , the amount of time companies are taking is not helping, there will always be a new hot paddle to fill the void.

  • @honupond
    @honupond Рік тому +1

    I really enjoyed your review! How is this paddle as far as vibration dampening, swing weight and quickness at the NVZ? I have occasional elbow pain brought on by playing with a certain paddle that felt like a board. I could really benefit from the power and spin. Thanks!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      It's really solid tbh! It is definitely vibration dampening and feels really good at the NVZ! I am awaiting swing weight details right now as I don't have a swing weight machine yet but I will definitely get back to you with that soon! It feels really balanced to me :)

  • @MulliganAl
    @MulliganAl 11 місяців тому +1

    Great videos you're producing, they're all very helpful. I can't believe my old Gearbox GX5 is ancient and since the face is separating it's time to get a more advanced paddle. I've been looking at the DBD, the R1Pulsar and now this Volair Forza and all have caught my eye with a nice balance of moderate swing weight, decent power, and good control, now decisions decisions decisions.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  11 місяців тому

      And now you have the new Gearbox paddles to choose from too! If you wanna discuss anything I'm here to chat :) I love talking paddles. Thanks for the comment!

  • @Scotch49
    @Scotch49 Рік тому +1

    Love the review! Loving the crbn 1x right now. How would you compare coming from the 1x? Subscribed!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      Very similar! I am a big CRBN fan boy. Forza is just going to have more spin and be just slightly softer off the face! If you want more details or have any other questions please let me know!

  • @andymartinphoto
    @andymartinphoto Рік тому +1

    14 or 16?
    I am buying the 16mm as I am very new at pickle ball.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Yeah 16mm is definitely where it's at. I was experimenting with the 14mm recently and there is a bit more spin, but a tighter sweet spot. I prefer 16mm for sure.

  • @jovaknee
    @jovaknee Рік тому +1

    Just ordered!! I currently have a r1.16 and a warrior paddle.. opposite ends to me lol. Can’t wait to see what this is like

  • @oilerlord6513
    @oilerlord6513 10 місяців тому +1

    Just received my Mach 1 14mm...Looks great! I'm coming from a Selkirk Epic Power Air that I love, but after only around 100 hours of use the surface grit is now completely gone and totally smooth. I simply could not spin the ball anything close to when it was new.
    Looking forward to bringing back cheap points on topspin serves & slices

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  10 місяців тому

      Heck yeah!! You gotta have the grit. Yeah the spray on stuff wears off so fast is actually silly. You’re gonna love this paddle!

    • @oilerlord6513
      @oilerlord6513 10 місяців тому +1

      @@stspickleball Back in my tennis days, I'd just restring. It's kind of crazy that you can't (legally) restore the surface of a high-end Selkirk, or that it wore out in less than 100 hours
      A lot of people serve and drive the ball hard...it's unacceptable the only (current) option is buying a new paddle
      I hope I can get at least a year out of this paddle

  • @a4ijr936
    @a4ijr936 Рік тому +1

    bro shld i get this or crbn brand pls help thanks which will last me longer ?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Honestly both are amazing paddles. And both will last an incredible amount of time. What are you looking for mainly from a paddle? Spin? Control? Power?

  • @braves2510
    @braves2510 10 місяців тому +1

    Which paddle feels more plush, the Forza or DBD?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  10 місяців тому +1

      Forza is more plush DBD has a bit more pop and feels a touch firmer off the face 😊

  • @BerlinJ84
    @BerlinJ84 Рік тому +1

    Did you test the 14 mm or 16 mm in your review?

  • @ChaseDera
    @ChaseDera Рік тому +1

    Do you recommend the 14mm or the 16mm volair Mach 1 forza?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      16mm all the way for me! I love the more plush feel and it's a bit more forgiving ☺️

  • @adamsalafia6324
    @adamsalafia6324 Рік тому +1

    Has your opinion changed at all since the release of this paddle. I am highly considering this paddle. I am waiting to see what B&B Torro is going to bring to the table.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Fair enough! A lot of new paddles on the horizon. Ultimately no my opinion hasn't changed. I still love this paddle. I'd say top current contenders are the new Gearbox paddles coming out on the 16th. Been playing with those for a while now and they are pretty great. ☺️ but overall the Forza is top tier through and through.

    • @adamsalafia6324
      @adamsalafia6324 Рік тому

      @@stspickleball cause I am also waiting to see what you will have to say about the B&B Torro.

  • @SchittsFrozn
    @SchittsFrozn 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome review! Any plans to do one on the new Proline Energy S?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  10 місяців тому

      Yes I’ve been testing it recently! Look for it soon 😊 testing a ton of paddles right now kinda crazy haha

  • @gatorfan20
    @gatorfan20 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! I think I’m about to order one since my Joola Hyperion cracked after only about 5 months of use. Been watching different paddle review videos to research the new thermoformed technology out there, and this video sold me on the Forza!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      It’s such a solid paddle and with the innovation they’ve been working on for durability it’s going to last a lot longer than the Hyperion! I hope you love it man!

  • @jessie4269
    @jessie4269 Рік тому +1

    Would you consider this paddle arm friendly as far as swing weight and vibration dampening? Is it chicken as the NVZ?

    • @jessie4269
      @jessie4269 Рік тому +1

      Quick at NVZ, cot chicken!! Great review, by the way. Really enjoyed it!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Hahaha chicken! Made me laugh. Typos are the best. I answered your recent question on your other comment if you have any other questions please let me know I am here to help! :) Lastly, if you need added power this is definitely the paddle for you it feels very powerful and plush.

  • @BuddyPickleball
    @BuddyPickleball Рік тому +1

    Will you be doing the 14mm version of the Volair Forza?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      Maybe in the future! I can imagine would have a bit more pop and will be great for singles. But for real this 16mm version is a freaking dream. I haven't tried a paddle this nice ever.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      @@BuddyPickleball the forza has too much power for you? Interesting! Maybe break it on a it and loosen up the face a touch. I feel like it does have some wicked power though!

  • @zachmeyer6746
    @zachmeyer6746 Рік тому +1

    I just ordered one of these with your code too figure I would try out two lol

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Fair enough! I am curious which one you like more!! :)

  • @WorldTraveler222
    @WorldTraveler222 9 місяців тому +1

    What’s the minimum camera specs you need to measure rpm?

  • @robedwards6926
    @robedwards6926 Рік тому +1

    Do you know the swing weight?

  • @indkeith
    @indkeith Рік тому +1

    Ordered the Forza today. Hope It's a great paddle for me.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      You're going to love it! It's freaking awesome man :)

  • @namtran512
    @namtran512 Рік тому +1

    Just ordered mine, will be coming from the Perseus. How would you compare the Volair to the R1 Pulsar?

    • @scottfrancis13
      @scottfrancis13 Рік тому +1

      Prob about identical. R1 Pulsar and DBD my 2 fav paddles

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +2

      Hey man! R1 pulsar is going to be a little softer off the face and it won't have quite as much power. R1 pulsar is also going to have around 150 less rpm of spin. I love Ronbus paddles they are some of my favorites but the forza is a bit more powerful and has more spin. ☺️ if you have any further questions please let me know!

    • @namtran512
      @namtran512 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball So slightly bit stiffer and abit more juice basically right? Sounds like a paddle that's right up my alley.

  • @bryanuy2804
    @bryanuy2804 Рік тому +1

    Which one did u test? The 16mm or 14mm?

  • @zachyusuf8434
    @zachyusuf8434 Рік тому +1

    what kinda lead tape set up would you recommend for this paddle? Mine just came today!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      My favorite setup right now is a 5 inch strip of lead tape on the 8 and 4 oclock positions. I usually start mine about 2.5 inches from the grip :) And then start adjusting and find what works for you! I like a little added weight to help with lag on drives and I keep my weight low so I can keep fast hand speed at the net. If you have any other questions let me know!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      I bet you're freaking excited

    • @zachyusuf8434
      @zachyusuf8434 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball thanks, appreciate you man!

  • @johnmorrison8193
    @johnmorrison8193 Рік тому +1

    You sold me, I just ordered mine!

  • @Letsbfriendss
    @Letsbfriendss Рік тому +1

    wahts the warranty like on these?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      3 months I believe, but the guys at Volair are awesome. They really care about the customer experience so you're in good hands for sure. Good people.

  • @titochop
    @titochop Рік тому +1

    Do you feel like the volair forza was too luanchy?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      I don't personally I feel like it's pretty well controlled in comparison to some paddles. Do you have one or are you thinking of getting one?

    • @titochop
      @titochop Рік тому

      @@stspickleball I have one. I thought about adding lead to the handle / at the but cap to see if it helps control the power

  • @marcelallbriton5742
    @marcelallbriton5742 Рік тому +1

    How does this compare to the Ronbus R1 pulsar?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      Pulsar is mainly just going to be softer. This paddle has more power, and more spin, whereas the pulsar has that sort of cushiony face feel, although not as soft as a gen 1 raw carbon fiber paddle of course as the pulsar is thermoformed. Some people love that! They are really similar overall. I have a video on the R1 and the R3 pulsar up! If I had to choose between the two right now id take this Forza. It's insane. Also the fact that they have fixed the delaminating issues, and didn't release a thermoformed paddle until they had that solved unlike other companies really is a huge win in my eyes. But yeah this is gonna feel a little firmer off the face, is going to have more power, and more spin than the pulsar. If you have any other questions let me know!

    • @douglasmurdoch7247
      @douglasmurdoch7247 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball Isn't the R1 Pulsar a fiberglass paddle? Is it really that soft?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      @@douglasmurdoch7247 It is not a fiberglass paddle. You are thinking of the 6.0 Black Diamond, their power paddle. To touch on softness. The Pulsar is the softest thermoformed paddle I have tested yes. Not as soft as gen 1 raw carbon fiber paddles but as far as thermoformed paddles it is very soft. Some people may love that! For me right now the Forza is where it's at.

    • @douglasmurdoch7247
      @douglasmurdoch7247 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball ah thank you.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      @@douglasmurdoch7247 Of course!

  • @andymartinphoto
    @andymartinphoto Рік тому

    I just watched a review that suggests that the Volair Forza might just be the same paddle as the Ronbus R1.16 at about $60 less $$$ - I am curious on your thoughts about this?
    ua-cam.com/video/pujwtlQedWU/v-deo.html

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      So that video is referring to the original Mach 1. The Forza is their brand new Thermoformed paddle. Completely different! :)

  • @indkeith
    @indkeith Рік тому +1

    Just thought I'd pass along that the updated 14mm swing weight is 111 according to Volair. I played well & enjoyed the 16mm, but wanted it a bit faster so I have a 14mm arriving this weekend. I will give my thoughts after using a few times. The customer service from Volair has been excellent.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Awesome man! Let me know your thoughts! I've been playing so well with mine!

    • @rodawg2172
      @rodawg2172 Рік тому +1

      Any updates on the comparison between the 14mm & 16mm? I am considering both and having a hard time deciding which one to go with.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      @@rodawg2172 Hey man! So the 14mm will be firmer off the face and have a bit more power and a touch more spin. The 16mm will be much more plush and traditional. I personally prefer the 16mm. I'm not a fan of many paddles thinner than that as I just love the control and the plush feel of the 16mm paddles. I also feel they have a better sweet spot.

    • @rodawg2172
      @rodawg2172 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball thanks for the response, I agree with you and typically stay with the 16’s. I’ll probably go with the 16 then. Appreciate it! Subbed!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      @@rodawg2172 Heck yeah man!! You're gonna love it

  • @oxlopez
    @oxlopez Рік тому +1

    Take my money 😅

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Hahaha right! You won't be disappointed. It's an amazing paddle.

  • @kingali7793
    @kingali7793 Рік тому +1

    Great info buddy! I’m more interested in the rpm spin and control for my game. I use the Rogue2 extended carbon right now. I love the spin but I want more 😂 Do you think this paddle will have more spin than my Rogue2?

    • @kingali7793
      @kingali7793 Рік тому +1

      Sorry just noticed the paddle I’m looking at is the Mach 1 not the Forza Mach 1. Not sure if you know the spin rpm for that one :(

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      @@kingali7793 Mach 1 is going to be around 1980rpm ☺️ and honestly yes I think both of these paddles will have quite a bit more spin than the rogue2!

    • @kingali7793
      @kingali7793 Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I am curious on the rpm the Rogue2 will have. Do you think the Forza will have way more rpms that it will be noticeable than the Mach 1?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      @@kingali7793 It's fairly noticable but not a difference thats going to make or break your game. If you really want something softer and specifically more control oriented you can go with the mach 1, or even the Ballr pro or R1.16. I would get the Forza if you want more power and more spin, and any of those listed above if you really want a softer paddle.

    • @kingali7793
      @kingali7793 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the advice 🙏

  • @nealconner1939
    @nealconner1939 Рік тому +4

    I absolutely love this paddle. I loved my Legacy Pro(to hard to wield at the kitchen) Ordered a Vatic 7, good paddle but after playing with a thermoform, felt the swing weight to much... not good for kitchen fights. The Forza is perfect for me at the kitchen. I lose a little power from the baseline, however my returns are low and dip more quickly crossing the net. Doesn't require the learning curve it took me with my Legacy Pro(which I love, just too powerful for me at the kitchen)

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +3

      You nailed it man. This is exactly why this paddle is a top top pick right now. Doesn't get much better. I completely agree with everything you just said and the comparisons.

  • @eblounds
    @eblounds Рік тому +1

    Ordered. Great vid.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Thank you so much man I really appreciate that! You're gonna love it.

  • @ViniMunizFly
    @ViniMunizFly Рік тому +1

    great video! I have a quick question, how would you compare this to the CRBN 1, if you ever got the chance to use it,

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      As far as the CRBN 1x goes it's one of my other favorite paddles currently. It has about 160 less rpm of spin and to me feels just SLIGHTLY firmer off the face. Power feels the same to me basically they both pack a punch. So just the spin really is the big difference :)

    • @wq177
      @wq177 Рік тому +1

      And is this comparing to the original CRBN1, not the Power X series? I currently use CRBN1 14mm (not the power X), so I’m wondering how the control compares to the Forza?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      @@wq177 Ahhh sorry I guess I just kinda figured you were talking about the 1x as it's so freaking popular in comparison. Ok! So the 1 is going to be more control oriented than the forza. The Forza is going to have more spin, but it's going to be a bit firmer off the face. I think the pop is fairly relative which is nice though so resets and dinking will feel maybe a touch firmer just slightly, but the spin and the power will be more amplified with the forza!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +1

      @@wq177 Ohhhh I just figured you were talking about the 1x since its so popular haha sorry. Yeah so the Forza is going to be less soft so a bit firmer with a solid amount more spin and quite alot more power!!

    • @wq177
      @wq177 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball thank you! Great video

  • @robedwards6926
    @robedwards6926 Рік тому +1

    How do you test the rpm's?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      So I have a high frame rate camera. I do 10 serves and bring the footage into my video editing software and slow it down and then count how many frames it takes to make 1 full revolution. I plug that number into a software that converts frames per revolution to RPM and boom! We have as accurate of an RPM result as we can get right now :)

    • @robedwards6926
      @robedwards6926 Рік тому +1

      @@stspickleball Sweet!

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      @@robedwards6926 I am just so freaking into all the paddles and tech available these days man it's so freaking fun!!

  • @robedwards6926
    @robedwards6926 Рік тому +1

    This paddle seem really good.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      Yeah it's honestly the best paddle that's been released in my opinion. Just really hits on everything one would want.

  • @RennyRebel
    @RennyRebel Рік тому +2

    Quality & entertaining review. Up there with Chris Olsen & Pickleball Will. 👏
    Are yoy going to have chart of paddles reviewed anywhere?

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому +2

      Damn thank you that's a massive compliment man. Yes I'm going to have a chart for sure! Going to start working on that very soon! Stay tuned.

  • @dallas050
    @dallas050 Рік тому +1

    Is this paddle on Amazon? I see a Volair Mach 1 but not with Forza.

    • @stspickleball
      @stspickleball  Рік тому

      It is not. I would definitely buy directly from Volair. They have incredible customer service. I don't personally trust Amazon paddles.