The ship was registered in Panama because that would mean they would be subject to Panama's laws which would allow the cruise line to pay their employees a lower minimum wage.
Also, an ocean liner or cruise ship can now only be allowed to be American if she was American-built, crewed, and flagged. Still doesn’t excuse basically every cruise ship today doing this.
One disadvantage to using a "flag of convenience" is that the US passed a law over a hundred years ago forbidding any foreign ship from carrying passengers directly between two US ports. Normally, cruise lines work around it by adding ports of call in other countries. So if you want to go from the West Coast to Alaska, you have to make a stop in Canada. If you want to go from Florida to Puerto Rico, you have to make a stop in the Bahamas or in the Dominican Republic. If you want to go from California to Hawaii, you have to do a slight detour to Mexico before heading across the Pacific. But if you want to go from one Hawaiian island to another, it's just not practical to sail *all* the way to Japan, Kiribati, or New Zealand. Hence, the existence of the world's *only* modern-day American-built (well, fitted out in Germany, but her hull was built in Mississippi, so it still counts), American-crewed, American-flagged cruise ship: Norwegian Cruise Line's "Pride of America".
The dinning/ball room was really something in the America... I passed her big sister today in Philly. Just as majestic as ever, despite the faded paint.
Just found your channel tonight, and I'm already hooked. The combination of your subjects, your content (information) and your wit is just amazing. Can't wait to watch more.
G'day Nautical, Oh, what a pity. I have fond memories of the 'America' in the guise of 'Australis' when she started with the Chandris Line. I never actually went on a cruise out of Sydney on her (I've previously mentioned my dread of drowning) but I often visited the 'Australis' when she was in port. It turned out she was so popular that I nearly always knew someone that was going on-board for a cruise. I heard the, "All ashore who's going ashore." announcement many times. But that was enough to sample the good things about a big ship that's safely moored dockside. After she became a little rough around the edges, her popularity dropped off and when she finally disappeared from Aussie waters no one bothered about her anymore. So, it was deeply sad for me to discover from your excellent video that she had an horrific 'life' after Australia and an even more depressing, prolonged death throw; literally being eaten by the sea. It's odd how we become so anthropomorphic about big ships, especially those that fell into the 'liner' category. The Australis and her sister ship were the last vestiges of the classic-style transatlantic liners; the end of a total method of international mass transit of passengers. I'm also discovering that your world is filled with sad tales about great and grand vessels slowly losing their influence and prestige, descending by actual sinking or the ignominious death at the heat of welding torches and angle grinders of the scrap yards. I mentioned before that I'm ex-Air Force and I once visited an aircraft 'boneyard', I can't begin to tell you how utterly depressed I was after that visit even though I cut it short; it was horrible. To take little scraps of aircraft, as other visitors were doing, felt to me like grave robbing. There are many enjoyable, even inspiring stories in old ships but like all of us humans, finally, eventually, we come to a sad end. Thanks so much for this video. BH
Would love to see you do a video on the history of the SS United States. I’ve always loved learning about it since I live in Philadelphia and it’s close by. It’s a shame that a ship like the United States has just been sitting here for over 30 to 40 years just rusting away.
7:58 The "X" on her funnels is because it was the Chandris Line logo. Actually it's the letter chi, the first letter of "Chandris" (Χανδρής) in Greek script..
Ok I am new to the channel and now I know why your subscriber count exploded after this video! This is great! Your sense of humor is awesome! I laughed so hard I was snorting at that Japanese doing a drive by on pearl harbor comment. Keep up the great work and I will definitely be staying!
8:03 "Australis" isn't Latin for "Australia" (which, as you guessed, the ancient Romans didn't know about). It's Latin for "south", which is the namesake of Australia.
Just found out about your Olympic video and then watched this makes me sure that you deserve more subscriptions. And now I’m subscribed to your channel. Totally deserve it
@@NauticalStudy Yo! Hope you are good...I'm based in Chamonix Mont Blanc... weather is basically 6 months Hardcore Snowy Winter then 6 months of Relativity Mild times. Just starting to get cold atm! I'm outta the place this winter...travel in Spain instead! Keep up the good work! ,❤️
Went to watch this video again since in another video you mentioned it was kindof a breakout video. Thinking back I think this was the first video recommended to me. I’ve watched your older stuff and it’s good. The lesson for aspiring UA-camrs is make decent to good content. Keep making them. Eventually, if your content is good, you’ll find a break and be able to exploit it with older content as well as new stuff.
It's a familiar story; people with no money and big ideas pick up old ships cheaply and think they can make their fortune. It never dawns on them that the previous owners got rid of them because they had reached a point where the maintenance costs were crippling.
As a NZ shore based marine coast station radio operator, I worked this ship many times on HF CW. She was operated by Chandris Lines, as SS Australis and was very popular on her Down-under voyages in the 1960~70s.
At 7:23 you have a picture of Lech Walesa being carried on shoulders of shipyard workers in Poland during the strikes sometime in the 1980s - cute, but hardly relevant to the America,
She was registered at ~34,000 gross tons when operating with Chandris. I never understood the difference between gross tonnage measurement in the US compared to Europe and elsewhere.
The photo at 7:25 is polish Solidarity Movement leader and political dissident Lech Walesa who was popularly elected to be President of Poland. Has nothing to do with this ship.
A British passenger said of the America that she had "...presence". She was a liner with something special. I would love to be able to go back in time and be a passenger on the America.
I've actually always preferred the SS America over the SS United States, in fact, she's one of my 5 favorite liners, for both her career and for the fact that I've always had more of a soft spot for ships of a modest size, don't get me wrong, bigger ships like SS France and QM2 are marvels of engineering, but I always liked smaller ships like Mauretania, Nieuw Amsterdam, and of course, America
Lol the X on the funnel for Chandris wasn’t the X as we know it in the Latin alphabet, it’s the letter Χ (chi, pronounced kai). And btw, Panamanian registration lowers costs for owners, called flag of convenience.
I'm still waiting for my friend Burkhard at "Risawoleska" to produce a 1/1250 model of this again...but not at just any point in her career...the literal shitshow that was the 1978 "venture mutiny" with the fugly blue paint everywhere
As much as I adore the SS United States, the SS America was a more interesting ship. And, IMO, a better-looking ship. But like most Americans I like an underdog story.
Australis means Australian Lady. I sailed in her in 1961 and she was without doubt the most elegant and best decorated ship I've had the pleasure of being aboard. Her sad end is a tragedy for all true ship lovers.
Australis is the Greek word for young Australian girl not Latin. Well done with all other research, a few things l had not heard off before. RIP Australis.
This channel is underrated
You are my HERO man, that made my week
@@NauticalStudy dude honestly, you need way more subs
Yes indeed
Agreed
@@LJKMagic yes
The ship was registered in Panama because that would mean they would be subject to Panama's laws which would allow the cruise line to pay their employees a lower minimum wage.
Interesting
And save a little more by not having to conform to US safety standards (at least until the Morro Castle burned down).
Edit.. I meant Yarmouth Castle 😶
Also, an ocean liner or cruise ship can now only be allowed to be American if she was American-built, crewed, and flagged.
Still doesn’t excuse basically every cruise ship today doing this.
One disadvantage to using a "flag of convenience" is that the US passed a law over a hundred years ago forbidding any foreign ship from carrying passengers directly between two US ports. Normally, cruise lines work around it by adding ports of call in other countries. So if you want to go from the West Coast to Alaska, you have to make a stop in Canada. If you want to go from Florida to Puerto Rico, you have to make a stop in the Bahamas or in the Dominican Republic. If you want to go from California to Hawaii, you have to do a slight detour to Mexico before heading across the Pacific.
But if you want to go from one Hawaiian island to another, it's just not practical to sail *all* the way to Japan, Kiribati, or New Zealand. Hence, the existence of the world's *only* modern-day American-built (well, fitted out in Germany, but her hull was built in Mississippi, so it still counts), American-crewed, American-flagged cruise ship: Norwegian Cruise Line's "Pride of America".
Plus no benefits let alone healthcare. Easy, legal exploitation, exactly as unrestrained capitalism likes it.
Did not know I needed a sassy narration of the history of ships until now
The dinning/ball room was really something in the America... I passed her big sister today in Philly. Just as majestic as ever, despite the faded paint.
Just found your channel tonight, and I'm already hooked. The combination of your subjects, your content (information) and your wit is just amazing. Can't wait to watch more.
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G'day Nautical, Oh, what a pity. I have fond memories of the 'America' in the guise of 'Australis' when she started with the Chandris Line. I never actually went on a cruise out of Sydney on her (I've previously mentioned my dread of drowning) but I often visited the 'Australis' when she was in port. It turned out she was so popular that I nearly always knew someone that was going on-board for a cruise. I heard the, "All ashore who's going ashore." announcement many times. But that was enough to sample the good things about a big ship that's safely moored dockside. After she became a little rough around the edges, her popularity dropped off and when she finally disappeared from Aussie waters no one bothered about her anymore.
So, it was deeply sad for me to discover from your excellent video that she had an horrific 'life' after Australia and an even more depressing, prolonged death throw; literally being eaten by the sea. It's odd how we become so anthropomorphic about big ships, especially those that fell into the 'liner' category. The Australis and her sister ship were the last vestiges of the classic-style transatlantic liners; the end of a total method of international mass transit of passengers.
I'm also discovering that your world is filled with sad tales about great and grand vessels slowly losing their influence and prestige, descending by actual sinking or the ignominious death at the heat of welding torches and angle grinders of the scrap yards.
I mentioned before that I'm ex-Air Force and I once visited an aircraft 'boneyard', I can't begin to tell you how utterly depressed I was after that visit even though I cut it short; it was horrible. To take little scraps of aircraft, as other visitors were doing, felt to me like grave robbing.
There are many enjoyable, even inspiring stories in old ships but like all of us humans, finally, eventually, we come to a sad end. Thanks so much for this video. BH
Would love to see you do a video on the history of the SS United States. I’ve always loved learning about it since I live in Philadelphia and it’s close by. It’s a shame that a ship like the United States has just been sitting here for over 30 to 40 years just rusting away.
"If you put your ear against the hull, you can hear the ship say please kill me" 😂😂 brilliant, well done
“It was if her owners tried to make her themed after after the entire state of New Jersey”
State of New Jersey: **laughing and crying uncontrollably**
The entire state of New Jersey: "I mean, he's got a point"
Well we do have a refine- OH GOD *COUGH COUGH*
I am laughing so hard
That New Jersey roast though LMAO
7:58 The "X" on her funnels is because it was the Chandris Line logo. Actually it's the letter chi, the first letter of "Chandris" (Χανδρής) in Greek script..
What a sad fate for what was such a beautiful ship.
Is still intact is just rotting
@@cameronthomas9532 Can't really call her intact when she's split in half and sunk!
@@24934637 when was this the last time I saw the ship it was together but was rotting
@@cameronthomas9532 wrecked at Fuerteventura (Canary Islands) in 1994.
@@cameronthomas9532 Oh i think you saw an image of S.S. United States which is rotting in a dock meanwhile the S.S. America is just sunk
I'm 100% sure the "press your ear against the ship's hull and you'll hear it saying 'kill me'" also applies to United States-
XD
Also, the Iowa class ships are probably like this
@@annaeguia2420 Atleast they're getting treated with something else than 'okay, we need to pay blank amount of money to keep you here' lol
Ok I am new to the channel and now I know why your subscriber count exploded after this video! This is great! Your sense of humor is awesome! I laughed so hard I was snorting at that Japanese doing a drive by on pearl harbor comment. Keep up the great work and I will definitely be staying!
I think I read that her engine's were removed before being towed, and she split in two because the engine's were part of the ships structure.
Your channel is brilliant! I watch these over and over just to catch everything that flies past.
She was one of the first ships I had learned about due to my little kid brain at the time being enthralled with the idea of a wreck being above water.
A Man And His Ship is a great read about Gibbs, and goes into detail about his career along with his designing of the America and United States.
"And surely had a good running history ahead of her. Unless war were declared."
*ALARMS SOUND*
"What's that?!"
"War were declared."
8:03 "Australis" isn't Latin for "Australia" (which, as you guessed, the ancient Romans didn't know about). It's Latin for "south", which is the namesake of Australia.
-1 causalities I laughed so hard at that
I'd seen those pictures of that 1/2 a rotten ship before. Now I know "the rest of the story."
Great channel!
And you,ve seen the rest of the ship.
You're going places Nautical Study. Great video.
I suggest the Andrea Doria or the S.S. Central America, love your videos as always.
Very informative and entertaining…tx u..👍🏻👍🏻
Just found out about your Olympic video and then watched this makes me sure that you deserve more subscriptions. And now I’m subscribed to your channel. Totally deserve it
Excellent film well done, very informative and professional
I'm so glad I found your channel, you're the best!
Interesting! Well researched and compiled content. I've subscribed. Keep up the good work! Greetings from the French Alps. 👍❤️
How's the weather out there?
@@NauticalStudy Yo! Hope you are good...I'm based in Chamonix Mont Blanc... weather is basically 6 months Hardcore Snowy Winter then 6 months of Relativity Mild times. Just starting to get cold atm! I'm outta the place this winter...travel in Spain instead! Keep up the good work! ,❤️
New sub.
Thanks ship daddy.
Went to watch this video again since in another video you mentioned it was kindof a breakout video. Thinking back I think this was the first video recommended to me. I’ve watched your older stuff and it’s good. The lesson for aspiring UA-camrs is make decent to good content. Keep making them. Eventually, if your content is good, you’ll find a break and be able to exploit it with older content as well as new stuff.
9:30 why did the owners of venture cruise Lines let the the ship get in horrible condition?
It's a familiar story; people with no money and big ideas pick up old ships cheaply and think they can make their fortune. It never dawns on them that the previous owners got rid of them because they had reached a point where the maintenance costs were crippling.
As a NZ shore based marine coast station radio operator, I worked this ship many times on HF CW. She was operated by Chandris Lines, as SS Australis and was very popular on her Down-under voyages in the 1960~70s.
loved this video lol these types of videos are short and simple and people i know that arent too knowledgeable with ocean liners i can show it to
As someone from NJ, the roast was too accurate
Remember having seen her in Fuerteventura... Treacherous spot in the ocean it is there.
At 7:23 you have a picture of Lech Walesa being carried on shoulders of shipyard workers in Poland during the strikes sometime in the 1980s - cute, but hardly relevant to the America,
Not many things show the power of an ocean more than what happened to that ship.
Would it be ok for you to do a video on the Queen Elizabeth 2 or the first oceanic
You should really do a video about the SS United States and her history, including how she earned the Blue Riband on her maiden voyage.
See my grandparents came over on the ship and they’re still searching for the stuff they have from the ship so I’m waiting on that
@@NauticalStudy I had no idea your grandparents came to America on the ship.
@@CJODell12 Technically they were Americans already, my grandfather was stationed in Nuremburg. It's still a pretty cool connection, though.
Another great video!
She was registered at ~34,000 gross tons when operating with Chandris. I never understood the difference between gross tonnage measurement in the US compared to Europe and elsewhere.
There is no difference in measurement, chandris changed the interiors, so gross tonnage, being a measurement of internal volume, changed
And this is why I want abolutely nothing to do with cruise ships! Well done video, sir! I salute you!
Such a beautiful ship met with such a horrendous end
The photo at 7:25 is polish Solidarity Movement leader and political dissident Lech Walesa who was popularly elected to be President of Poland. Has nothing to do with this ship.
A British passenger said of the America that she had "...presence". She was a liner with something special. I would love to be able to go back in time and be a passenger on the America.
The labour strike at 07:24 is actually Lech Walesa the first president of Poland after the fall of the Eastern Block.
yaknow...when you get down to the nit and the grit, this ship is such a metaphor in'it?
Couldn’t agree with you more.
This story is fcuking wild!
Loved it
the SS america sums up america quite well, stuck in 1979
"X" on the funnel s presumably the Greek Chi, first letter of Chandros.
9:41 ow, being from NJ, that hurts.
Ss America was weeping in her final days
...makes me always a bit sad, when beautiful ships get scrapped...! :-(
I've actually always preferred the SS America over the SS United States, in fact, she's one of my 5 favorite liners, for both her career and for the fact that I've always had more of a soft spot for ships of a modest size, don't get me wrong, bigger ships like SS France and QM2 are marvels of engineering, but I always liked smaller ships like Mauretania, Nieuw Amsterdam, and of course, America
*i love this channel*
Incredibly good time’s and beautiful happy memories, right to the end!
13:20 - So what did we learn?
_Never to do it again?_
(Oh man, what a tragic missed opportunity for that movie clip.)
Lol the X on the funnel for Chandris wasn’t the X as we know it in the Latin alphabet, it’s the letter Χ (chi, pronounced kai). And btw, Panamanian registration lowers costs for owners, called flag of convenience.
The story reminds me of the RMS Olympic it was a awsome ship i dont understood why was it scraped. I think they should of used it as the museum
The fact this ship could NOT been converted to a Hotel has till today puzzled me as it was done to a British vessel no less???
I'm still waiting for my friend Burkhard at "Risawoleska" to produce a 1/1250 model of this again...but not at just any point in her career...the literal shitshow that was the 1978 "venture mutiny" with the fugly blue paint everywhere
My second most favorite American ship just behind the RMS Lusataina
I wonder which ship holds the record for the most number of name changes ??
I think this channel is one of my favourite d
Australis isn't Latin for Australia, it just means "southern".
Panama??
A moment of silence for New Jersey 😂
They really abandoned it.
Yea, your shit's good man. Please keep making content
“They celebrated with a massive fire” 😂💀
Nobody expects Japan to do a drive by
To add insult to injury, I clicked on this video thinking you were going to talk about the S.S. United States.
You should Do a video about the
SS independence
As much as I adore the SS United States, the SS America was a more interesting ship. And, IMO, a better-looking ship.
But like most Americans I like an underdog story.
"legends say if you put your ears closely to the hull of the ship you can hear it say kill me" lol XD
For 3/4 of the video I thought you were talking about SS United States…
Celebrated with a huge fire 🤣 this guy cracks me up! Love it!!!
They painted the flags backwards on the starboard side. Always follow the stars into battle.
Australis means Australian Lady. I sailed in her in 1961 and she was without doubt the most elegant and best decorated ship I've had the pleasure of being aboard. Her sad end is a tragedy for all true ship lovers.
9:40
ouch
Some ships have their ending determined for them. SS America chose her own
Australis is the Greek word for young Australian girl not Latin. Well done with all other research, a few things l had not heard off before. RIP Australis.
The sound familiar was personal
Wow didnt know the ship existed for so long
I’ll be nice if the Ship made it to Thailand I am from Thailand
The entire state of New Jersey sends a message: Take that Lego Titanic model and shove it up your bilge pipe
SS United States lost the Blue Ribband in 1989 and the Hales Trophy has been handed out after some court decisions.
-1 casualties I like that
your videos are hilarious
What could we learn from this? Here's one, take care of your shit if you intend to allow the public to use it.
My uncle came to America on this ship
Ship of state FLAG SHIP of American 🇺🇸!
Somebody is SUS
so dose she still exist somewhere under water?
Technically yes, but its a debris field on the coast of Fuerteventura.
Not really, just brown stain on the sea floor
13:00 min. I'll never get back.
YEAH AMERICA NUMBER 1
All because of a BROKEN towline, on the beech , gone forever!
basically she was ghost ship
I am Tatinac fan
Wtf is Tatinac
?
@@theclockperson1046 must be a new hybrid type of ship
@@tapewaves2783 probably :/
Im a tatinac fan, he doesnt know how to spell his favorite ship