Finally, I hear someone trying to think outside the box! I enjoy your humor and humility, and putting your whole self out there.Thank you for the encouragement.
Thank you Ingo. The church needed to be ministered to first. They needed to know the truth… now as the body of Christ, the gospel is to goto the whole world. The body is not fully awake yet and many from the world are to be added. The material things of this world will not lead us to Christ… it’s the gospel that is to goto the whole world. People are hungry for the truth(Christ). The Heath message is the right arm, not the body, but an arm to grab. So many have sadly either put it first or have made it equal to the knowledge of who God is and the acceptance of God’s only begotten Son torn from his bosom. The truth(Christ) is the mana we are to eat spiritually… many think they have Christ, but if they do not have a correct knowledge of who God is… they will not behold him. This is the message to the Laodicean church… they lack Christ! This is the most important 3 angels message! It is Jesus who seals us as he writes the Father’s name in our foreheads. He seals us when we are settled in the truth, settled in Jesus. This is the message that saves. This is the message of true Love❤️and true peace. This is the message that if we accept it, the world will see Jesus in us and through us. God help us all with the spirit of your Son… amen
@@Want2cJesus Hello Kate. High desert by Snowflake. If we could manage a mini Campmeeting with Daniel, do you think your group would come and anyone else from the valley?
2-3 min video clips are too short to be the only thing. Mix with 15 min and 45 min. Longer ones (even 90 min) are great for background listening while busy with hands.
Does anyone have any studies that could be used to start out Outreach in my community? I'm in Seminole texas. The entire west side of Texas is almost Adventist free.
Bless you! Please bring back the Christianity of Jesus! The Greek Pagan philosophers destroyed Christianity by making God into three people. The new Fundamental Beliefs are irrational nonsense! The Bible says that God is the Father. Jesus is "The Son of God and the Messiah".
After reading MR760, EGW advised to not focus on erroneous topics. She repeatedly said spend time on people with open ears. Of the controversial topics of the day, she advised against printing rebuttals in our publishing. This is not a critical question on the presentation, but how the word Trinity comes traveling along with counter measures, as if Trinity is the standard to distinguish from. If so, just thinking how the label Non-Trinitarian brings that error right up into how we are referred to. So, the Trinity issue gets attention. The non- in front of Trinity only draws attention to a controversy. I find One True God and Father/Son more individuated terms without binding to the error we separated from. The powers behind the scenes use words anti- and non- to stimulate persecution to those who separate from an agenda item. Example, the vaccinated vs the anti-vaxxers/non-vaccinated creates a space for insider-outsider dynamics to spawn almost automatically. And, another for instance, if we use anti-/non-Trinity as the main word why can’t what we believe is truth be highlighted as OTG and then the others who don’t adhere to this are anti-/non-OTG? I think how we refer to things can create stigma unnecessarily. Neither side wants to wear the coat.
Pastor, I hope this question is seen by You. Will You please provide the information You provided regarding Mark Finley's false assumption that the GOD of Gen.1:26 is the same one that went to the cross? Thanx and great peace!
Just some questions - who was Jesus talking to when on the cross and previously in the Garden of Getsemany - Yes Jesus was talking to a separate Person His Father and our Father. God the Father and Jesus are SEPERATE PERSONS When Jesus was baptized did they not hear - This is my son in whom I am well pleased - yes the Father was talking about his now mortal son from heaven The trinity is an EVIL man generated concept for simple small minds
Really? And God [Eloh[im]] said, Let *us* make man in *our* image, after *our* likeness... {Genesis 1:26a} Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for US? Then said I, Here am I; send me. {Isaiah 6:8} The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar. Then *the LORD* rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire *from the LORD out of heaven* {Genesis 19:23-24} (Twain speaking as one) Thus saith *the LORD* the King of Israel, and his redeemer *the LORD of hosts* I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. {Isaiah 44:6} Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now *the Lord GOD* and *his Spirit* hath *sent me* {Isaiah 48:16} In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was *with* God, and the Word *was* God. The same was in the beginning with God. *All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made* In him was life; (Original, Unborrowed, Underived) and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and *the darkness* comprehended it not. {John 1:1-5}
@@larrybedouin2921 Even if personification is used, the word proceedeth out of the mouth of God and are his thoughts and ways. The word is not a distinct person and/or distinct God from God the Father. 1Co 10:23 KJV All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. Deu 8:3 KJV And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live. Deu 8:6 KJV Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him. Isa 55:8 KJV For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. Isa 55:11 KJV So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Deu 18:15-18 KJV 15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; 16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. 17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. 18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Joh 5:30-31 KJV 30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. 31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. Joh 7:17 KJV If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. Joh 14:24 KJV He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. ---------- Luk 11:1-2 KJV 1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples. 2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. ------- Mar 12:28-29 KJV 28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
@@larrybedouin2921 Even if personification is used, the word proceedeth out of the mouth of God and are his thoughts and ways. The word is not a distinct person and/or distinct God from God the Father. 1Co 10:23 KJV All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. Psa 119:15-16 KJV Psa 119:104 KJV Deu 8:3 KJV Deu 8:6 KJV Isa 55:8 KJV Isa 55:11 KJV Deu 18:15-18 KJV Joh 5:30-31 KJV Joh 7:17 KJV Joh 14:24 KJV ---------- Luk 11:1-2 KJV ------- Mar 12:28-29 KJV
@@Micaiah144 You do err exceedingly, "with God" is not speaking of one person. Neither were the other verses I witnessed to. Anti-trinitarians have the spirit of antichrist.
Ingo keeps insisting that God cannot die. Does the Bible say anything about that? What if Jesus surrendered that part of His existence to the Father as well? On the cross, Jesus said, Father into thy hands I commit my Spirit. What if that was literally so? Jesus surrendered His eternal Spirit into the hands of the Father. Makes sense to me.
I think Ingo is referring to God the Father and not His Son, Jesus. The Father can not die. Paul tells us in his letter to Timothy : "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; ➡ Who only hath immortality⬅, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen." - 1.Timothy 6:15-16
@@Lindstad777 Thats a great verse, one I usually use to demonstrate that man does not have an immortal soul, as the helenists taught, whic eventually became part of Hebrew thinking, gaining most ground during the intertestamental period. I think when I was referring to God not being able to die, I was referring to Jesus, who is God. So that is really kind of a puzzle. At one point Jesus said "destroy this temple and in 3 days I will raise it up..." (Paraphrase) So, what exactly did that mean? That He, as God, didn't actually die, but raised Himself - the man self? Blessings.
@@freeinhabitant2422 Maybe, the Son of God, since He was made as a man, then was able to die, give His life for all of us. This would be impossible if He did not become a man ?
@@Lindstad777 That is very, very deep and takes some time to grasp. Its interesting because right now I am reading on this very subject. There are specific reasons that Jesus came as a man - and you can see hints of this made in the Book of Galatians, ("Made of a woman, made under the Law...") and many other places in the Bible. One reason is that - "_Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be *made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest* in things [pertaining] to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people._" (Heb 2:17, KJV) So, whether or not He could die as God, I don't have the infinite mind to understand, but I do know that it was extremely important that He "be made like unto His brethren" in order to perform the work for humanity that needed to be done. In order to experience mans challenges and overcome them in the power of the Spirit of God, that is by Jesus only living by Gods power, He overcame, He thus makes it possible for us to overcome. So, it was imperative that He not only died for us as the sacrificial part, but lived His life in complete submission to God demonstrating that Man (Jesus) could in fact live a Godly life as long has he stays submitted to the Will of God through the Holy Spirit. It isn't just about the sacrifice of Jesus, it is also about the life that Jesus lived.
@@Lindstad777 I think you are right! However, at the same time, how does it answer the question did God Himself (Jesus) die? I almost think it must be that He would have had to. Remember when Jesus said "Father into thy hands I commit my Spirit"? Maybe that is when the "God part" went to the Father? But even then, whatever state man is in at death, that would have to be the same of Jesus, because the Bible says He "experienced death for every man". Since I believe in the annihilation of the wicked and soul sleep, from there things get wonky to explain to others. Most people believe that the dead arent really dead. I do think they are dead, or asleep until the resurrection (Either the 1st or second one) SO, then what does it mean "The spirit of man returns to God who gave it?" If you want to watch a nice, clean movie about hell, you should have a look at the movie "Hell and Mr Fudge", free on UA-cam found here: ua-cam.com/video/W66HP-3HO_A/v-deo.htmlsi=SLPef9Tv9XO-U__p - It also makes one think about things like soul sleep and immortal souls. Very good movie! May you and your family be found faultless at the Lords appearing.
By those who are wise in their own estimation, who are puffed up by the teaching of vain philosophy, the beauty and power and mystery of the plan of redemption are not perceived. Many have eyes, but they see not; they have ears, but they hear not; they have intellect, but they discern not the hidden treasure. Also in Colossians 2: 8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Godhead philosophy as taught by BRI scholars is the Holy Spirit and has a nature therefore a person. This is their trinitarian view.
And, to a great degree, theology, as studied and taught, is but a record of human speculation, serving only to "darken counsel by words without knowledge." {MH 442.3}
@@lisachambers3683 It will not be long that you will throw out the Bible also. Also when i first became a SDA and started reading the Bible for the first time is when i started having doubts about the so called Trinity.
Finally, I hear someone trying to think outside the box! I enjoy your humor and humility, and putting your whole self out there.Thank you for the encouragement.
Thank you Ingo. The church needed to be ministered to first. They needed to know the truth… now as the body of Christ, the gospel is to goto the whole world. The body is not fully awake yet and many from the world are to be added.
The material things of this world will not lead us to Christ… it’s the gospel that is to goto the whole world. People are hungry for the truth(Christ). The Heath message is the right arm, not the body, but an arm to grab. So many have sadly either put it first or have made it equal to the knowledge of who God is and the acceptance of God’s only begotten Son torn from his bosom. The truth(Christ) is the mana we are to eat spiritually… many think they have Christ, but if they do not have a correct knowledge of who God is… they will not behold him. This is the message to the Laodicean church… they lack Christ! This is the most important 3 angels message! It is Jesus who seals us as he writes the Father’s name in our foreheads. He seals us when we are settled in the truth, settled in Jesus. This is the message that saves. This is the message of true Love❤️and true peace. This is the message that if we accept it, the world will see Jesus in us and through us.
God help us all with the spirit of your Son… amen
praise the lord !present truth is so lovely!
Thank you for this sharing of your thoughts, Ingo. They resonate with lots of us, & you're right: let's DO, do, do! along with using words wisely
Prayers for the guidance of the spirit of God and of Christ 🙏🙏🙏 May Jesus keep us encouraged.
Thank you.....with Aloha we need your prayers on Maui....Mahalo for your prayers
Home church from Az watching and listening. First time for 6 of the members here to hear you.
We home church in AZ too. Where are you?
@@Want2cJesus Hello Kate. High desert by Snowflake. If we could manage a mini Campmeeting with Daniel, do you think your group would come and anyone else from the valley?
@@Want2cJesus Daniel Mesa that is.
@@JudyAnn17
We are in Vernon. You bet we would!!! We love Padtor Daniel. My daughter and mom have given their testimonies on Daniel's channel.
@JudyAnn17
We have a group of 6 adults too.
2-3 min video clips are too short to be the only thing. Mix with 15 min and 45 min. Longer ones (even 90 min) are great for background listening while busy with hands.
Thank you from Quebec.
Really a stunning video.....
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Does anyone have any studies that could be used to start out Outreach in my community? I'm in Seminole texas. The entire west side of Texas is almost Adventist free.
Good thought and discussion. But this is not "Updates on the Trinity Debate with Ingo Sorke"
Bless you! Please bring back the Christianity of Jesus! The Greek Pagan philosophers destroyed Christianity by making God into three people. The new Fundamental Beliefs are irrational nonsense! The Bible says that God is the Father. Jesus is "The Son of God and the Messiah".
After reading MR760, EGW advised to not focus on erroneous topics. She repeatedly said spend time on people with open ears. Of the controversial topics of the day, she advised against printing rebuttals in our publishing. This is not a critical question on the presentation, but how the word Trinity comes traveling along with counter measures, as if Trinity is the standard to distinguish from. If so, just thinking how the label Non-Trinitarian brings that error right up into how we are referred to. So, the Trinity issue gets attention. The non- in front of Trinity only draws attention to a controversy. I find One True God and Father/Son more individuated terms without binding to the error we separated from. The powers behind the scenes use words anti- and non- to stimulate persecution to those who separate from an agenda item. Example, the vaccinated vs the anti-vaxxers/non-vaccinated creates a space for insider-outsider dynamics to spawn almost automatically. And, another for instance, if we use anti-/non-Trinity as the main word why can’t what we believe is truth be highlighted as OTG and then the others who don’t adhere to this are anti-/non-OTG? I think how we refer to things can create stigma unnecessarily. Neither side wants to wear the coat.
Pastor, I hope this question is seen by You. Will You please provide the information You provided regarding Mark Finley's false assumption that the GOD of Gen.1:26 is the same one that went to the cross?
Thanx and great peace!
This from the lesson '3 Cosmic Messages' lesson May 11th
Thank You!@@ssenikinyange
Just some questions - who was Jesus talking to when on the cross and previously in the Garden of Getsemany - Yes Jesus was talking to a separate Person His Father and our Father. God the Father and Jesus are SEPERATE PERSONS When Jesus was baptized did they not hear - This is my son in whom I am well pleased - yes the Father was talking about his now mortal son from heaven The trinity is an EVIL man generated concept for simple small minds
We need to repent from Trinity, Love the only true God, and overcome the world. Acts 17:30-31. I am no exception.
Really?
And God [Eloh[im]] said, Let *us* make man in *our* image, after *our* likeness...
{Genesis 1:26a}
Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for US? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
{Isaiah 6:8}
The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
Then *the LORD* rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire *from the LORD out of heaven*
{Genesis 19:23-24}
(Twain speaking as one)
Thus saith *the LORD* the King of Israel, and his redeemer *the LORD of hosts* I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
{Isaiah 44:6}
Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now *the Lord GOD* and *his Spirit* hath *sent me*
{Isaiah 48:16}
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was *with* God, and the Word *was* God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
*All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made*
In him was life; (Original, Unborrowed, Underived) and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness; and *the darkness* comprehended it not.
{John 1:1-5}
@@larrybedouin2921 Even if personification is used, the word proceedeth out of the mouth of God and are his thoughts and ways. The word is not a distinct person and/or distinct God from God the Father.
1Co 10:23 KJV All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
Deu 8:3 KJV And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Deu 8:6 KJV Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him.
Isa 55:8 KJV For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
Isa 55:11 KJV So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Deu 18:15-18 KJV 15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; 16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. 17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. 18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Joh 5:30-31 KJV 30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. 31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
Joh 7:17 KJV If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Joh 14:24 KJV He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
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Luk 11:1-2 KJV 1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples. 2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
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Mar 12:28-29 KJV 28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
@@larrybedouin2921 Even if personification is used, the word proceedeth out of the mouth of God and are his thoughts and ways. The word is not a distinct person and/or distinct God from God the Father.
1Co 10:23 KJV All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
Psa 119:15-16 KJV
Psa 119:104 KJV
Deu 8:3 KJV
Deu 8:6 KJV
Isa 55:8 KJV
Isa 55:11 KJV
Deu 18:15-18 KJV
Joh 5:30-31 KJV
Joh 7:17 KJV
Joh 14:24 KJV
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Luk 11:1-2 KJV
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Mar 12:28-29 KJV
@@Micaiah144
You do err exceedingly, "with God" is not speaking of one person.
Neither were the other verses I witnessed to.
Anti-trinitarians have the spirit of antichrist.
amen
Ingo keeps insisting that God cannot die. Does the Bible say anything about that? What if Jesus surrendered that part of His existence to the Father as well? On the cross, Jesus said, Father into thy hands I commit my Spirit. What if that was literally so? Jesus surrendered His eternal Spirit into the hands of the Father. Makes sense to me.
I think Ingo is referring to God the Father and not His Son, Jesus. The Father can not die. Paul tells us in his letter to Timothy :
"Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; ➡ Who only hath immortality⬅, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen." - 1.Timothy 6:15-16
@@Lindstad777 Thats a great verse, one I usually use to demonstrate that man does not have an immortal soul, as the helenists taught, whic eventually became part of Hebrew thinking, gaining most ground during the intertestamental period.
I think when I was referring to God not being able to die, I was referring to Jesus, who is God. So that is really kind of a puzzle.
At one point Jesus said "destroy this temple and in 3 days I will raise it up..." (Paraphrase) So, what exactly did that mean? That He, as God, didn't actually die, but raised Himself - the man self?
Blessings.
@@freeinhabitant2422 Maybe, the Son of God, since He was made as a man, then was able to die, give His life for all of us. This would be impossible if He did not become a man ?
@@Lindstad777 That is very, very deep and takes some time to grasp. Its interesting because right now I am reading on this very subject. There are specific reasons that Jesus came as a man - and you can see hints of this made in the Book of Galatians, ("Made of a woman, made under the Law...") and many other places in the Bible.
One reason is that -
"_Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be *made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest* in things [pertaining] to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people._" (Heb 2:17, KJV)
So, whether or not He could die as God, I don't have the infinite mind to understand, but I do know that it was extremely important that He "be made like unto His brethren" in order to perform the work for humanity that needed to be done.
In order to experience mans challenges and overcome them in the power of the Spirit of God, that is by Jesus only living by Gods power, He overcame, He thus makes it possible for us to overcome.
So, it was imperative that He not only died for us as the sacrificial part, but lived His life in complete submission to God demonstrating that Man (Jesus) could in fact live a Godly life as long has he stays submitted to the Will of God through the Holy Spirit.
It isn't just about the sacrifice of Jesus, it is also about the life that Jesus lived.
@@Lindstad777 I think you are right! However, at the same time, how does it answer the question did God Himself (Jesus) die? I almost think it must be that He would have had to. Remember when Jesus said "Father into thy hands I commit my Spirit"? Maybe that is when the "God part" went to the Father? But even then, whatever state man is in at death, that would have to be the same of Jesus, because the Bible says He "experienced death for every man".
Since I believe in the annihilation of the wicked and soul sleep, from there things get wonky to explain to others. Most people believe that the dead arent really dead. I do think they are dead, or asleep until the resurrection (Either the 1st or second one) SO, then what does it mean "The spirit of man returns to God who gave it?"
If you want to watch a nice, clean movie about hell, you should have a look at the movie "Hell and Mr Fudge", free on UA-cam found here: ua-cam.com/video/W66HP-3HO_A/v-deo.htmlsi=SLPef9Tv9XO-U__p - It also makes one think about things like soul sleep and immortal souls. Very good movie!
May you and your family be found faultless at the Lords appearing.
By those who are wise in their own estimation, who are puffed up by the teaching of vain philosophy, the beauty and power and mystery of the plan of redemption are not perceived. Many have eyes, but they see not; they have ears, but they hear not; they have intellect, but they discern not the hidden treasure.
Also in Colossians 2: 8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Godhead philosophy as taught by BRI scholars is the Holy Spirit and has a nature therefore a person.
This is their trinitarian view.
studying theology is going far to truth#as if the theologian is the final truth*
And, to a great degree, theology, as studied and taught, is but a record of human speculation, serving only to "darken counsel by words without knowledge." {MH 442.3}
@@lisachambers3683 It will not be long that you will throw out the Bible also. Also when i first became a SDA and started reading the Bible for the first time is when i started having doubts about the so called Trinity.
You will not hear from those famous SDA Theologians - they will rather attack your character
what is your email.