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Five Muff Pedals (Nano Big Muff, Green Russian, Defector, Hoof, Musket)
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- Five Big Muff style fuzz pedals thoroughly compared and then boosted using the independent pre-gain on the Foxpedal Defector, and the TC Electronic Spark Mini.
Electro-Harmonix Nano Big Muff
Electro-Harmonix Green Russian Muff Reissue
Foxpedal Defector Fuzz
Earthquaker Devices Hoof
Blackout Effectors Musket
TC Electronic Spark Mini
These are all, undoubtedly, EXCELLENT muff pedals, even the much maligned Nano. But (in isolation) the Green Russian Reissue just kicks everyone else's arse. It's got a seriously huge bottom end that sounds incredibly satisfying and EHX have done a brilliant job making a pedal that sounds this good at that price. And nothing else I tried takes a boost before it quite as well.
However, when I kicked it on during a band rehearsal the other night, I suffered the classic Big Muff problem - my guitar literally disappeared into the sound of the drums and the bass.
So, if you're Jack White, I'd recommend the Green Russian. If you're in a band, I'd probably go for the Musket. It's double the price if you want to buy it new, but the MIDS control (and possibly the FOCUS if you can get the settings right - though I couldn't) really fixes that. The SHIFT control on the Hoof just didn't quite do it for me, I don't know why. Made the pedal sound to brittle and thin, perhaps, none of the width of the other two. But those are my ears. Yours will be different. The Hoof is a hugely popular pedal and justifiably so.
There's clearly more to the Foxpedal Defector than I've shown here too. I missed out its FEEDBACK function - just hold the FUZZ switch down and the light turns green and some kind of crazy shit happens apparently. (Also I can never quite get behind diode clipping toggle switches. 'Just pick one!' I say. Too much twiddling.)
Fender Classic Player Jazzmaster (bridge pickup), looped on a TC Electronic Wiretap
Boss Katana 50w on the Clean channel, mic'd with a Sennheiser e609
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 into GarageBand
iPhone 7 into Final Cut Pro
I've heard great sounds coming out of a Musket, but for regular plug-and-play, the obvious choices are the Russian EHX and the Hoof. They sound so much more ready to rock. I don't love Muffs, and I usually end up selling them (although I used a real green Sovtek for years in the early 90s). The only one I regret selling is the Hoof.
This is great! The continued loop to get a real comparison, the comments, the settings that you changed. This is absolutely the best comparison I've ever seen.
That musket is insane! This clarifies my suspicion that the HOOF is the best fuzz next to the green Russian, but the musket is a wrecking ball 💣
You can have the Hoof, I love my Foxpedal Defector
I’ve never owned or played a Hoof, to be fair. But the Defector is one of my all time favorite pedals.
@@Paul-dw2clI owned a Deflector and regret trading it.
Quick note and it may have already been stated elsewhere in the comments: the focus pot on the musket alters the tone of the pre pot, you didn't notice any difference because you had the pre dialled out. That being said, great demo!
I have the hoof reaper, green Russian and musket, the musket being the muff that resides on my board due to its versatility.
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The Green One !
green is it
Russian FTW! BTW, I gotta add to the praise about your format. I wish every pedal reviewer did what you do! Looper and no talking, just straight pedal demos.
Thanks! I really appreciate it!
I agree Russian muff is the best
Best Muff shootout I've seen so far! I'm trying to figure out which variant to clone, and this has been enormously helpful. Definitely gonna go with the Green Russian, probably with a shift control and maybe with LED clipping diodes and Ge Transistors ala the Hoof.
Thank you - glad to help!
I find the Hoof much more musical and usable within a live application.
Yes, that sounds right to me. I tried the Green Muff Reissue in a band context and it kind of disappeared. Hoof and Musket seem designed to solve that problem.
The Pedal Bored I agree with you guys. Lucky be the person that can afford to have both the ehx Russian reissue and these fancy pedals! I spent my money on the hoof, would like to have the ehx russian too, but that will have to wait. Comparing the hoof to the Little Big Muff I sold, I can see that it shows up much better in the band mix, but I preferred the ehx when playing home alone..
@@manualofalternativemusic Same. My Hoof came in the mail last night and I had already sold the LBM. Had really high expectations/hopes. Initial reaction, I should have kept the Muff and it was much cheaper. I don't really need my fuzz to cut, I only play at home. I'd like to try the Green Russian and maybe some day I'll get a LBM again. By then I'd probably miss the clarity. I have to/can dial in the Hoof in a way that I couldn't/didn't need to with the LBM.
Have you made any fuzz changes since you posted your comment??
Brayden329 Hey bro! Yeah, I’ve been playing home too due to quarantine. I’ve bought a Black Russian big muff out of curiosity because it was cheaper than the new green reissue, and I’m digging it. The hoof has way more clarity and punch to it, but the ehx works home for me, it didn’t work well with my band if the Tone wasn’t set to 9 or 15 o’clock. I like having both now, wanna get a Ram’s head soon to compare them. I’ll keep the hoof for live situations though.
Totally agreed. Used the original Green Russian and the reissue in my last band. Hoof cut through the mix way better! Soft clicking is much nicer than the hard snap of an EHX footswitch. I love their circuits, but the switches discourage me mildly.
Green Russian ftw, the Hoof sounds really good too. Really good demo, this dude needs a proper tube amp though to change my mind about certain tones
I have the Green Big Muff...Just awesome. Great video!
Thanks!
I have a Green Russian Big Muff Pi I bought new in the mid-Nineties for $90. It is still in excellent shape with the original wood crate. Seeing how much they are listed for online these days, I am tempted to sell it and get the re-issue. It sounds nearly identical to mine and is more practical for a pedalboard. The size is reasonable, the plugs are on the correct sides, it has a DC input, and the knobs are oriented in a way that makes sense. That being said, my Green Russian was the first guitar pedal I ever bought, and even today, it ranks as my favorite, so I will probably stick with the behemoth that needs a CBAT converter for power because its brain-melting sound brings me such joy.
My first pedal was the Boss DS-1, purchased in the early '90s. Still have it, won't ever sell it!
Perfect video, thanks so much!
that musket one is mental, lol
Awesome channel ❤
honestly tho, your muff comparisons have got to be among the best of them all--no introduction, no talking, just sounds presented in an orderly, controlled way, with a precise sound source that doesn't change. although i'd love to hear some single-note/soloing type stuff too (no wanky solos necessary), yours are still great. any chance you've got some ram's head comparisons in the works? (including the byoc clones would be rad too--they have the tonal boost switches.)
Hey thanks very much! It's nice to get such good feedback! Somewhere down the line I'm going to try to compare a bunch of muff clones that have Mids controls - Stomp Under Foot's Civil Unrest, the Mojo Hand Colossus. Basic Audio's Tri-Ram and so on. But it costs money to get them, even if I end up sending them back, so I'm slow...
Great way to do a comparison like this. Well done.
2 notes with the musket is that it serves as an amazing bass pedal because of the insane low end and mid shifting. You can also run it from 9 to 18v. I've usually had mine running 12v
I'm going to have that riff stuck in my head all week
You're welcome.
@@ThePedalBored Ha!
The musket has a complete disregard for everything, which I like. However I would probably buy the hoof
I would like a video that compared full distortion, tone all the way to the left with enough volume to overdrive a tube amp. That’s the magic spot on the old school green Russians.
Wow, the Green Russian sounds great!!! I wasn’t expecting that. Before listening I honestly thought the Hoof would be the winner.
Also, I was surprised how the Green Russian and Big Muff almost sounded identical at lower fuzz settings.
Great video!!!
You just sold 1 Russian Muff!! That thing sounds great and my instinct would be to go for the Hoof. I don't really hear the price difference. Seriously, great demo. Thanks👍🏻
If only these pedal manufacturers paid me commission...
Just FYI, I bought a Russian Muff about a week ago. I knew it was gonna be bass-heavy going in but DAMN!! I wouldn’t say I dislike it but it is something to consider for anybody shopping around. To me it sounds best when I run my SD-1 before it. I think I will probably get the nano or triangle or something similar to those sometime soon. Thanks again for your demo👍🏻
Your videos kick ass! Ed Zachary what I was looking for in pedal demos!
Thank you good sir!
Thankin' you kindly, mister.
You just sold me on the Russian one. You rarely use profanity but when you do it’s in excitement!
I love how you ‘versus’ pedals.
Dear lord where are you my friend? We need more of these videos.
Great comparative! Thanks!
Your video cleared my mind. Though I am not what you would call a "fuzz user", my choice rests with the E-H Russian no doubt! Thanks for the excellent comparison.
Best Muff demo on youtube. I'm building pedal clone kits as a hobby. Can't decide between the US and Russian variant...Maybe I'll squeeze both PCBs in one enclosure with a selector switch.
Hoof all the way!
The Hoof for band play and if you have a bit extra cash ..if your playing alone and dont have a high budget definitly that GODLY!!!! RUSSIAN MUFF SWEET LORD !!!! also amazing riff my friend!
EHX Green for me too at that first setting
I was thinking about the hoof coz I love eqd but after seeing this I think green Russian at less than half the price is the winner
Wish I'd listened to this before I bought my BM pi nano. I like the sound of the green russian a lot better.
The EHX is THE classic, but needs some EQing either at the amp, or another pedal to cut through.Better with single coils in that regaurd.
The Hoof really is a solid improvement on the Muff circuit, with Ge and Si components, you can get the fat low end and broad harmonics, while maintaining the cut and rasp.It has a much larger range, and it and the Musket are good distortions dialed back.
If you compare the 2 boutiques with the Muffs side by side, you WILL hear the difference in basic harmonic content;is this still relevant to playing live, in a band mix ? Prob not.
The thing you learn playing in a band mix is that all those subtleties that are so obvious at home in the bedroom just get lost in the sauce.This is why you see many pros using basic, reliable , equipment, preferably that's easily replaced.On top of this, many otherwise obvious differences will get lost using wireless systems , heavy buffers, or just reverb and delay.
The boutique stuff can pay off in the studio/ on recordings, and it's not going to hurt as long as it's designed well throughout.
The Green win 💕
I'm still waiting for a green russian mini to come out. That would be truly awesome . . .
This IS the green mini.
I prefer the Hoof. You can dial it in for anything...
For me it's a fight between the Big Muff, and the Russian Big Muff.
Green russian, or musket if u can tame the lows slightly..
loved the lows,on the musket..but a bit less wouldve been perfect
I'd like to advocate for the Musket for a minute. It's a great pedal. I've got some huge sounds out of it, and the Focus control really DOES work. I suspect the one in the video to be defective in some way, or doesn't like the Katana. With 6 controls it's not exactly plug and play but it's not rocket science either. Too bad it made such a poor impression in this video, the rest was great and of course, Green Muff wins here.
That musket is so fucked I love it
The nano bass, not compared here, is my favorite (yes, on guitar !). With the earthquaker devices dream crusher and the okko black beast, but these one are not big muff style.
The musket probably sounds super boomy and muddy because the focus control is set all the way down. I've heard it in other demos with a lot more clarity, even rat-ish at some settings
Around 4:30 I roll the Focus right up and and it doesn't really seem to make any difference
@@ThePedalBored Yeah, I commented too early, sorry. Still, in other videos it sounds much less spitty and broken. In fact, it sounds kinda distortiony. I loved the Green Russian in this demo, it sounded awesome.
@@TheSPY1997 well a few people have commented that the Musket sounds bad so there must be something going on...
The Pedal Bored great demo but for some reason the musket didn’t sound good. I have one and it sounds totally different
@@ThePedalBored I mean when you did roll it up it was when the tone control, mid-range, and fuzz were at zero. You do it later with a reasonable control layout, and the world of difference I hear in mine is not in this video for some reason. The focus control on my musket is literally the reason I haven't been able to take it off my board. With my guitars and basses that higher output bass heavy pickups, it stays tight and defined while other fuzzes sputter out and sound gated. Not that it matters much since Blackout has unfortunately gone the way of the Dodo recently.
Green Russian the best one!
Russian sounds amazing in this video. Hoof is awesome as well. I'm trying to decide between the Russian with the JHS Mod or a Hoof. I like the Mid/EQ Control on the Hoof. The JHS mod makes it a hard choice, and then I found out there is a Cloven Hoof that sounds badass too.... What a fun problem to have.
Yeah the modded Russian sounds like garbage in some demos and then really interesting in some others. I figured if the synth-esque clipping modes were not good in practice for me I could just run it stock or play with the other parameters.
After you say that though I think I'll purchase the stock Russian and save a buck. The EQD Hoof seems to be able to get damn close the the Russian tones plus some more options though. Playing with a bass player makes me think the shift/mid control will be super useful. Thanks so much for the video and the response. Super informative.
My responses have disappeared now I've moved to a proper channel. Thanks UA-cam!
Joe Danny Ortiz I bought the Hoof recently. I used to play with a Little Big Muff with my band, maaan there’s some very noticeable difference. The shift knob makes the guitar stand out really well, and it still sounds like a big muff when you change the mids, I loved it. Though I’m also in the mood for the new Russian reissue hahaha
Yeah that's what I ended up deciding on too. The shift knob is what pushed it over the edge. I'm using the Hoof Reaper which is a two in one. The other side is a Tone Bender-ish fuzz that's cool for Zeppelin sounding stuff. I would probably have just bought a russian if I was just playing with a drummer and no bass player. I put fuzzes after a klon-ish OD in the chain anyways so I can get the mids back if needed.
Joe Danny Ortiz which one you end up getting?
So hard to decide…looked at the Tone Wicker myself for the extra options. I’ve heard mixed reviews on the JHS multi one being a big overkill, and not spot on. For me it seems like the Green, Hoof or a Wicker for the extras.
Russian for playing alone. Hoof for playing in a band
I think you're absolutely right. In a band situation you need to get those mids back.
I remember taking a new russian muff to band practice thinking, "This is going to KILL." Waited for that chorus to slam it on, and promptly disappeared, lol. @@ThePedalBored
Great video, that's the way to do compare videos. I'm still undecided between Hoof and the green Russian, probably end up getting both, thx man, the designer of the musket should be put in jail.
Musket sound's a lot better than in this video... It must be something wrong with his pedal...
The russian takes it. anyone having probs cutting thru mix in a noisy band, just add a booster pedal. thx 4 vid. and cool riff
I sold my Little Big Muff and bought a Hoof. First reaction, I miss my muff :( the Hoof is definitely clearer but the Muff was thick and creamy. Maybe I need more time to dial it in.
I think the Hoof is good for different reasons! I like that I can get away with bigger chords on it, it has a cool clarity. A touch sensitivity. But it doesn't really do the Smashing Pumpkins thing.
HOOOOF
Which mode was the defector in? Silicon or LED?
Nice comparison, but did you also try the boost AFTER the fuzzes? That's how a lot of people do it.
No, because a boost after anything just makes the sound louder. It doesn't change the sound that came before it.
cool comparison, but your musket sounds like no other musket I've heard, including my own..is it a Version 1 I wonder? I hate to say it but it sounds like there may be something wrong with it! mine is a lot more focused, punchy, with very little spit actually, but I have a V2
carpathian whips What amp are you using? And what guitar?
I've played that musket through a boutique Princeton clone (Vintage Sound 15), a Goodsell Super 17, and Deluxe Reverb Clone (Vintage Sound 22), and an Orange AD15. I do have a Katana 100, and I've played my board with the musket on there through that as well and didn't hear anything too different I don't think..I'll plug into the Katana tomorrow and try again though
carpathian whips Interesting. I don't think mine is broken, but it could be a load of things - the mic I'm using, having the other pedals in a chain before it, all kinds of things I guess.
Agreed. I have a Twosome which includes the Musket. Sounds nothing like that. Owner should send this vid to Blackout and have em fix or replace this thing. Try running it without the other stuff in the chain first I guess, but that does not sound right at all.
Yeah, I have a Musket and mine definitely has never sounded that dark or woofy and boomy. In fact, the one in this video sounds closer to the Blunderbuss I had.
Musket or Green.
I only dislike the green coz it seems a tad compressed and gated, like all nano ehx pedals, but its amazing even so.
#### the musket and the Hardee's defector
i want a hoof, and fuzz gun by death audio and more and more
to boost that muff type pedals u just need arrows from EQD, BTW that musket pedal must be broken, I have one and not sound like a bunch of farts
Well it's someone else's now... Hopefully they find it less farty.
Did you intentionally set the Musket to sound muffled and uninteresting each time?
TOP NOTCH
Just discovered your channel, just subscribed. Do you think you might do a phase shifter pedal shootout someday?
I have never used one. They frighten me.
I actually owned pdf2 stone deaf, Russian pickle and big muff pi op amp( pumkin version).
Pdf2 very noisy, can't really stack any other pedal without make noise
Russian pickle awesome sound but too much shit going on, doesn't cut bands mix, too beefy as it gets lost while playing with others
Big muff op amp its just perfect. And classic
What do you think of the Triangle? For me, it's the superior Muff. It sounds like a growling leopard riding a fatboy and wielding a chainsaw. That's the tone I was looking for from the beginning.
I think you're right. I've got another more recent video where I compare the current 5 nano-sized Big Muffs from EHX - ua-cam.com/video/Iwy9rVA9cLk/v-deo.html - and I'd say the Triangle wins. But I also love the Russian. And the OpAmp. GAH. DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE.
On my side I would love to get my hand on the Constellation (crazytubecircuits.com/constellation) but god it is hard to find… :(
I have built the first four versions from left to right in your vid on my quest for my ideal Muff sound and have to say your Musket doesn’t sound right at all. It’s based on a Black Russian circuit with an LPB-1 in front as the ‘pre-gain’, mine doesn’t sound gated or farty like this one seems to, weird.
Excellent demo though, Green Russian is a clear winner for me in this vid!
Okay, a lot of comments now that something is up with my Musket! I'm going to send this video to Blackout Effectors and see what they think. Thanks!
@@ThePedalBored hey! is there any follow up? was the Musket broken?
Kokos They never got back to me. I've sold it since and not had any complaints from the buyer, so maybe it's just something to do with how I had it set in this video.
@@ThePedalBored thanks for information. I can see their website is down, maybe they are not in the business anymore. I heard that Kylesa loves this pedal and I'm looking for a fuzz, this is why I was interested in comparison. Since this pedal is rare and costy, I think I will just choose a green russian.
Which voicing on the Katana are you using?
redwitch fuzzgod 2c tho
there can be something wrong with this particular Musket pedal
That Musket... sounds like "wrong".
Like there's a problem with the pedal? (Someone else wondered this.) Or just 'wrong'?
"Wrong" I say, a problem perhaps, I don't know, the Russian one is very well spoken and Hoof too, but I already heard a clone of Musket and Hoof in front of me, and Musket clone sounded closer to the sound of Gilmour than Russian on some occasions and much more versatile, even in the Gilmourish blog the Musket has a good tag, it's very heavy fuzz distortion but cover pretty much the classic vibe of muff's, in this demo... may be the comparison ... but honestly, I found it a little bit strange or just disapointing.
Good shot by the way, I like it.
It definitely sounds like something is going on with that pedal. Sounds nothing like my Musket. Mine never really sounds gated like that and nowhere near as woofy or thuddy. Mine is very clear and often has to be tamed for how bright and gritty it can be (running into a silverface deluxe). I've never found the focus to make much of a difference on mine either, very subtle at best. But your pedal sounds completely different from mine. See some of the other youtube videos on it.
Also, been watching a few of your other videos. Stumbled onto them looking for some chorus demos. Really like what you're doing. Very good way to compare similar pedals. You've got a new subscriber. :)
That Musket is not working correctly, something is definitely wrong
Which one ended up in your pedalboard?
The Hoof and the Defector are gone.
@@ThePedalBored Are you still using the Green Russian?? I just received a Hoof but I don't love it yet. I know this because I plugged in a RAT and loved it right away. I plugged in the Hoof and my stomach dropped a little. I didn't have the urge to keep playing like I did with the RAT.
That musket pedal sounds like a fart effect.
Mine sounds a lot better than his. I suspect it's defective in some way, or doesn't go well with the Boss amp.
Musket sounds a lot better than in this video...
I owned a Musket and it sounded nothing like this. Probably the best Muff pedal I've played! Should never have sold it! I wonder whether it didn't like the looper before it. Maybe it was a buffer / impedance issue.
The musket and the hoof are superior to the rest, this demo is not a correct representation of the musket. The musket is probably one of the best muff circuits ever made I own several original big muffs and none of them are as good as the hoof or musket.
Your Musket sounds nothing like mine, neither like a Muff IMO ... just sayin'
There’s definitely something wrong with that Musket.
Well it's someone else's problem now... :)