we all wish the same...life would be so amazing. But thanks to media and " idiocracy" it will never happen because emotion has taken advantage of intelligence in our society.
Aww yes it's pretty twisted Miketrt, but I like that this has been posted over a year ago and there's still a logical, honest and open dialogue going on here, gives me hope.
Amandeep Wahi I know that situation is happening mostly in middle eastern countries which happen to be in a 3rd world category, as you say. It’s due to the fact, their religion is a big factor to their societal practices. That’s where feminism should be active and not to those places that have over privileged women that are constantly whining when there are small things they find unfair. However, there are still many 3rd world countries including Philippines that has no issues between men and women’s equality and rights. We have equal opportunities here for everyone’s information. There is no competing against genders, as I observed. women are acting women and men are acting men. There is No “I’m different or fuck societal roles and norms” mindset going on.
Thank you. I also see many people of color speak against feminism. Lying feminists such as Laura Bates claim that anti-feminists are white supremacists, which is the biggest nonsense someone has ever heard.
Another insane part of this that really burns me up...if all my identity is that I'm over privileged purely by virtue of my maleness, that would have to mean that the hard work and sacrifice of my Hispanic immigrant Mother is completely pointless and irrelevant. So coming at me for male privilege actually directly disregards and disrespects a minority female's contributions to the world...
Janice Fiamengo is an amazing woman, someone millenial females (and males) can and should learn from. Glad you were able to get her on, Dave @The Rubin Report.
Dave, Your guests are great and you're doing a good job with who and how you have these engaging discussions with. Janice Fiamengo is awesome, I've been listening to her UA-cam videos for a few years now. Please get some new chairs. Your new studio looks a little spartan and those low, deep back chairs are counter productive to a good upright, engaged discussion (always seem to need the extra pillows). When guests and yourself are always fidgeting, rearranging your posture and trying to find a comfortable, relaxed physical posture, the conversation is going to suffer as much as your anatomy. Spend some money old sport and raise the conservation and maybe the coffee table as well. Look at how your legs are splayed to one side or the other, knees almost banging on the table, no real comfort to the postures of you or your guest. It almost seems like an effort to be too casual, too laid back, forcing you to compensate with pillows and unnatural posture. You and your guest must be naturally comfortable, mindlessly comfortable, so your focused minds are engaged with the conversation and not your physical discomfort. It will make the talks go much better so time will fly by. It now seems as if your viewers, guests and yourself can't wait for it to be over before you're two thirds done. Not because of an uninteresting conversation but because of an uncomfortable physical environment. I think your viewers are as uncomfortable watching as are you and your guests are sitting. Keep up your good work and interesting conversations!
Matt Stone Being a millennial has nothing to do with it past them being at the age where they are inexperienced and impressionable. Janice said she herself was indoctrinated back in the early 1990s.
@@johnboylan3832 You would be downplaying it by saying it "it has nothing to do with it". Who is more inexperienced and more impressionable than a millennial?
On rewriting history, I stumbled across the website of a medieval historian a few years ago, and one of the posts was about the "common knowledge" that in the middle ages girls as young as 13 or 14 were "routinely" married off to men much older than them. While the historian said that there were cases of such things happening, after sifting through hundreds of church registers, they found that the average age of first marriage for women was something like 19 or 20, and for men it was just a couple years older. Likewise, the "common knowledge" that women were "brood mares" doomed to being pregnant, in childbed or nursing their entire lives. On the contrary, the average number of pregnancies per woman was 5, and the average number per woman of kids who survived childhood was 3. The historian hypothesized that we have these ideas because it's not the "average" life that makes it into the history books, mythology or fictional stories--kind of like the everyday lives of non-extraordinary people don't make the papers these days. If one were to take only the really sensational stuff on TV today and put it in a time capsule, an alien species opening it in 1000 years might assume that the stories therein were broadly representative of everybody's lives. They'd think having triplets and quintuplets is common (Jon and Kate +8), and that it was murder and mayhem all the time for us. One thing I think is really telling about history is the incident that formed the outcry to change marital property laws. A woman in London (was it Millicent Fawcett?) had her purse stolen. In court, the bailiff read that the money contained therein was the property of her husband. She was shocked that she didn't own the money in her own purse, because she'd been behaving her entire marriage as if it was her money, and so had her husband. An analysis of court cases brought by women against their husbands in England from 1600 to 1750 (if I recall) indicated that LOTS of women were under the impression that the property they brought into the marriage was theirs. There were women operating under an "onerous" legal handicap that only really came up when a husband mismanaged the woman's property or sold it against her wishes (which wasn't very often). On the other hand, the flipside of the marital property laws was a woman's entitlement to financial support from her husband (an everyday thing), and the Law of Agency, which entitled her to act as his legal agent and purchase goods on his credit (another everyday thing). And of course, when Britain changed its marital property laws, it removed women's property from their husbands' control, but kept all the flipside stuff intact. Which seems to be a very silly thing for a male-privileging patriarchy to do.
Karen, I know nicotine is a stimulant but how the hell do you pull off these long ass comments *every* time you comment? Do you have the capacity for one liners?
karen straughan, just love listening to you. Really appreciate how you cut through the ‘overburden’ and get to the minerals. You’re always helpful and interesting. Thanks.
Love Karan and Janice. I love that you talk about things that escape people. Interesting take on women getting everything their way but men nada. The modern MSM, politicians, corporations also are anti-men. Men empower women to take down other men. Insane that a man will use women to eliminate other men. But much like metoo, women do not understand their power will easily dissolve, once they go after the same powerful men that enable them. The female logic always fails them. But Karen, you are hope that sanity can return. But I think you were born with male logic. Guesstimating, probably 10% or less women posses your logic. Men are probably 50-50. 50% have it, and 50 don't. At least this to me explains why men are always split in EVERYTHING in life....from voting patterns to marriage to.....everything.
There is a flipside to this point about history. People like Peterson want us to believe that incidents like the Lindsey Shepard fiasco are the norm for current law. They work very hard to take these cases and make these the narratives of future history. Forget about Aliens. What will future historians say about us? The thing is, we all have motivation to exaggerate the negative eliments we see on the other side.
same in the barge industry. I have only heard of a couple of pilots, and i have yet to see a female deckhand. Three and a half years on the ohio river.
Agreed. And thank you for having the courage to stand up and take a principled stand for the right of free people (for now) to say what they think believe to be true. The Bolshevik left wanted to punish you and make an example of you in order to intimidate anyone else who would dare to deviate from their script. It must be an enormous sacrifice for you and your family. God bless you and your family.
You speak truth. I married a Canadian much like this, best thing that ever happened to me. My wife is not an educator like her, but I see a lot of my wife in this woman. Of course I must say that my wife is more attractive! (My wife might see this post)
Yeah, ok. We'll hold off on building the wall on the northern border and give some of you time to get out. But the threat to the south of us, they just want the money. The Canadian threat is to our way of life.
I find the “women in stem” debate extremely hypocritical. There are already more women than men in stem. Yes, physics and computer science have more men. So what? Let people choose what they want. I once asked, at my university, why we only target young girls, but not young boys. Apparently the boys will come anyways, but the girls need encouragement. They all need encouragement. The more bright minds we can get, no matter the gender, the better.
An excellent question. I have taught mathematics -- to both boys and girls -- for 25 years. Nowhere have I seen or heard of educators discouraging girls from challenging themselves mathematically or from pursuing careers in mathematics. I am happy to encourage girls, including my own daughters, to consider careers in the STEM field. That said, the concern comes when a girl freely chooses to go into another field and for some reason people consider that to be a "wasted" choice.
lilmissyblee1981 Interesting isn’t it, considering the faux concern from these same men about Muslim men and the treatment of Muslim women... 🙄. So, is it that female empowerment is bad or are Muslim men justified in their beliefs about women?
Ha ha, well, wow. That's kind of like being under the impression that the center of the sun is where the coldest temperatures of the universe are found.
That's right. Imagine you need eye surgery. Would you shop for a surgeon based on gender or race? I'm guessing you probably would not. Of course you could go woke, but you might also go blind.
Exactly. Theres nothing worse than hearing someone say they are going into a "male dominated field" and expect you to clap. Thats like men working as a nurse or a "female dominated field" and expecting something special. Do your job and the one you are good at and picked.
As a Canadian, I am both ashamed by what is happening in my country, and proud that we have great thinkers and speakers like Dr Fiamenco, Dr Peterson and many others. These are the people that give me hope for the future and that of my children. Thank you, Dave Rubin, by sharing your platform to bring these voices of reason to light.
I’m also a Canadian. I agree 100% with you. I’ve seen Peterson twice! If you get a chance, see The Lobfather, he is something to behold. I just recently ‘found’ Fiamengo! Remember, we all go to the polls in 2019!
@@winskypinsky yes, looking forward to that election like none before. I too have seen Dr P twice, most recently on his book tour (along with Rubin) last July. I will look up the "Lobfather"; have not heard of him before.
Justin Trudeau and his crazy liberals negate all this. Do you read the Toronto Star or Globe and Mail or Macleans? It will take more than Peterson and this admirable woman to turn the tide.
@@rossg9361 Mark Steyn Stefan Molyneux Dan Dicks Gavin McInnes Steven Crowder Conrad Black Above are either Canadian or have lived in Canada with voices on multiple platforms that speak some common sense. Dr Gad Saad Dr Rick Mehta Tom Quiggin Joe Hazelton Adam Daniel Mezei Frank Vaughan Billy Joyce Northern Patriot Arana Nation Kelly Day Faith Goldy Above (and more) all have a presence on platforms like UA-cam with pretty dedicated following discussing Canadian issues. All are getting the message out to different audiences (centrist/classical liberal to libertarian right). I have hope.
I'm a professor at a mid-sized regional university in New England. I taught my first college class in 1976 and am now nearing retirement. Like Janice, I teach literature. Intellectually, college-level teaching these days is about like teaching high school was back in the 70's. Anti-intellectualism, in the form of moralizing platitudes, has simply run rampant for the past two decades. We have a whole curriculum based on making the students good people, as opposed to instilling any academic rigor.Tenure, by the way, is rapidly disappearing, because the model of a "university" has become corporate. I've actually been lectured by administrators on how we owe the students "customer service." I'm glad I'm getting out soon.
This is part of why I became so disillusioned with college. It's a business catering to the lowest common denominator. The inmates are running that prison.
Thank you for sticking with your values and doing a good job for all these years. I hope some students were inspired. My Portuguese teacher (I'm Brazilian, we speak Portuguese here) was such an inspiration for me in high school. She was the only one that could teach peacefully, in a broken public school system, because she demanded discipline and excellence in studies and behavior. Thanks to her I persued my bachelor's degree in psychology. She was fired last year. No colleagues had her back and actually helped to build a case against her when she tried to talk to the city's education ministry about the school worsening indicators. I can only hope that she found a better job, that matches her capacities and gives her the freedom she didn't have. (Sorry for my english. It is not my first language. Any corrections are welcome.)
Last summer I completed my first year in the BA programme of English lit. I was so excited to choose from (nearly) all the courses available to me in the coming semester. As the semester went on I became more and more disappointed with what we look at in classes: Questionable secondary articles and always gender. It seems like this bias focussing on gender is very prominent, and I simply don't buy it. I honestly feel a little bit let down by the university, because I really want to learn more. I want to be able to work academically, I want to acquire knowledge, take in as much as I can to come up with valuable ideas thereafter. I guess I will have to teach myself then. But if I ever get into the position to teach others, I want to do it differently. I do not want to feed this culture of hate.
Those are the same reasons, I like many others opted to never go to college because anything I can learn in a university I can learn in my municipal library for free. Plus I don't have to put up with everyone else's horseshit. My years of highschool was spent listening to teachers tell the students to shut up 8 hours every day and that went on for years until I was finally able to get out. A school is a place to learn, shut your face or GTFO.
As a person with 2 degrees in STEM I can say that every female that I have come across in my many years of schooling has been against the "Oppressed" mindset. The women making these claims that STEM is sexist aren't even in the field. I think it is because it's a hard field and they are just butt-hurt that the woman who do make it through the programs are smarter than them. Engineering has the highest fail rate, 900+ students my freshmen year, 46 graduated(not like a few graduated a semester late I mean the other 850+ changed majors or dropped out we only had 20-25 per semester graduate so that 46 was the entire year.) Every single women in my latest program had a well paying job before they graduated. It's because they were the best of us not because of their sex or skin color.
Being in the same position as you, I agree entirely. I went to two separate schools, a liberal arts University and an engineering school. I only knew one woman that believed these things at the engineering school but nearly everyone at the library arts school believed all the typical liberal talking points. It was so bad that my girlfriend at the time came back from class nearly on tears because she was berated by her classmates in her communications class when she said she wants to be a primary School teacher so she can be with her children. They said she was part of the problem, being complicit in the patriarchy's oppression, along with many other very hurtful things. That was at the liberal arts school, of course.
yeh totally agree - im a web developer and i'm not bothered that the majority of my colleagues are men. i also dont think that women "dont understand their options" when it comes to career - i actually find it insulting.
In my first year of EE at college I was friend with the only women in my class. I don't remember her ever complaining of any discrimination or harassment not did I witness any. To the contrary she was treated with the utmost respect. But like you said it had a 90% dropout/failure rate, and she withdrew after 6 weeks off the first semester....along with dozens of men. I don't see how the program could of been made any more friendly for her or w0men in general.
She’s completely right. My feminist sister started screaming at me, saying that I thought all feminists were idiots when I was just calmly trying to offer up a few ideas on how to get more people to agree with feminism. I didn’t think feminists were dumb then, but now I understand why no one listens to them.
April The message since the late 60's going into the 70's..80's and after was you could have everything. By the late 70's almost 40% of all Computer Science graduates were Women. Now despite many years of encouraging Women, it's only 16-18%. Both my Mom and Dad were working full time by 1970. The message to women (and anyone really) is simple, do what makes you really happy...work, home both but remember sacrifices will always be required because no one can do everything.
They have been increasingly spoiled, and do not have the desire or the perseverance to do most difficult things. Even motherhood is all too often thought as to difficult by many women these days.
I am woman, hear me roar In numbers too big to ignore And I know too much to go back an' pretend 'Cause I've heard it all before And I've been down there on the floor No one's ever gonna keep me down again Oh yes, I am wise But it's wisdom born of pain Yes, I've paid the price But look how much I gained If I have to, I can do anything I am strong (Strong) I am invincible (Invincible) I am woman You can bend but never break me 'Cause it only serves to make me More determined to achieve my final goal And I come back even stronger Not a novice any longer 'Cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul Oh yes, I am wise But it's wisdom born of pain Yes, I've paid the price But look how much I gained If I have to, I can do anything I am strong (Strong) I am invincible (Invincible) I am woman I am woman watch me grow See me standing toe to toe As I spread my lovin' arms across the land But I'm still an embryo With a long, long way to go Until I make my brother understand Oh yes, I am wise But it's wisdom born of pain Yes, I've paid the price But look how much I gained If I have to, I can face anything I am strong (Strong) I am invincible (Invincible) I am woman I am woman I am invincible I am strong I am woman I am invincible I am strong I am woman Songwriters: Helen Reddy / Ray Burton 1973
Janice, regarding your last 5 minutes of inflammatory commentary... that's pretty badass. Honestly, it makes me wonder too, whether the "sexists" of the past were right.
The best ending thought on Rubin so far. I cannot find where Dr. Peterson has thought this idea through the Adam and Eve story, I could use some help if anyone knows. My thoughts are that the naive nature of woman is her greatest weakness as told in Genesis. To be deceived by the "Deceiver" Satan and to have the attributes that makes a man not able to think clearly results in men stumbling over the desire to please a woman. Maybe this is related to the fact that there are thousands of strip clubs emptying men's pockets but maybe a hundred that cater to women. In relationships that work men tend to be in constant despair with themselves trying to provide resources for the woman they love. This is the price men take on personally for the enjoyment of a woman as a companion and are willing to sacrifice their lives to do so. Self sacrifice is a man and not a woman. This is why women in today's society have no problem of sacrificing their own offspring for the selfishness of being " successful ". Men are willing to die and women are willing to kill for a step up the hierarchy. This is not the way women are supposed to be and it saddens me to see it perpetuated in our culture.
+Tim Morris Peterson has referred to contemporary society as a kind of "feminine" totalitarianism (vs the masculine totalitarianism of the 20th century). Can't remember when or where, unfortunately; he has a massive amount of online content!
I've followed Janice for years, she has been a reasonable voice and has made me feel I was not alone in my thoughts a few years ago. She has no doubt saved men's lives. Bless you Janice!
I can't help but clap at 47:00. I'm a 17 year old girl and have grown up exclusively in a time where feminism has both been crazy and possessed such power. I have never experienced an instance of actual sexism in my life. However, I have had the fruits of affirmative action throughout my entire schooling life. I struggle to understand how anyone with a similar experience can go through a school system that constantly screeches about the sexism against women and think that women are some how a lower class. Whenever I ask other young women about this sexism they can never really produce any solid examples. Most jump to the debunked wage-gap, cat-calling or list things that happened to women ages ago. I don't understand how you can be in such a lovely environment but maintain the idea that you are a victim...
I agree completely. I'm a woman in STEM (Electrical Engineer) and it irritates me how people harp on about how women are discouraged from the STEM field. It's not true at all. Everywhere I look, I see encouragement for girls to get into STEM. I don't see that for young boys at all. I also feel that I have benefited greatly from affirmative action and that irritates me the most. I never know if I've been hired or promoted because I was the best candidate or because I'm a woman. It's so unbelievable how other millennial women (especially those who are also in STEM) still think that they are victims of some patriarchy. Yes, STEM is mostly men (especially in Electrical Engineering) but I have never been discouraged or treated unfairly because I'm a woman. In fact, I have been encouraged to apply for promotions BECAUSE I'm a woman. tl;dr I can't stand feminism. I want to be EQUAL, not SUPERIOR.
@@RebelliousFemale *"I want to be EQUAL, not SUPERIOR."* Well, then feminism is exactly what you seek, I'm told. :) I can easily imagine how incredibly annoying it must be to be a woman in a male dominated field and potentially have male colleagues talking behind one's back about the possibility of a particular - or perhaps even every - woman in that workplace solely being hired due to affirmative action. Same goes for minority races and sexualities. Seems to me that most of those who support affirmative action 1) haven't thought it through, as affirmative action eventually WILL result in people questioning certain employees' actual merits behind their backs, and 2) are completely blind (or uncaring) to the blatant unfairness towards fully - or better - qualified individuals of a "majority group", simply due to the circumstances of their birth. But to people like feminists, "righting a wrong" with another wrong, and doing it against the wrong (ie. innocent) individuals for some reason is totally fine. Where and how they get these morals / thought processes ingrained may seem like an easy answer to some (school, media), but I suspect that the truth may be a bit more complex than that, and therefore more difficult to do something about.
Agree. I'm in construction, working with only men, and I've personally never felt victimized or any sexism by my coworkers. I've faced sexism in the past and I know how to handle it if it ever happens (the few occurrences have happened because of insecure assholes), but I'm not going go around thinking men won't treat me as an equal. This culture today wants us to believe that inequality is rampant everywhere, labelling us as victims.
@B P "that does not account for subconcious biases and societal expectations that still effect women today." Do you believe there aren't subconscious biases and societal expectations for MEN as well? You're basically saying "the world isn't perfect." It's not. Life is a struggle for everyone. The answer isn't to make things unequal to promote equality.
"I don't understand how you can be in such a lovely environment but maintain the idea that you are a victim..." Well, it's not easy. But 11-16 years of public "education" tend to get the job done.
There are no feminist on a sinking ship, nor as Bill Burr says, in house fire. Feminism has taught me one thing...that I am just as valuable as a woman. So I will no longer give up my seat, beat women in the race to the life boats, and use a woman as a ladder to escape a house fire. Thank you ladies for helping me to find my male value, and freeing me to put me first.
yes. but society had to be somewhat gynocentric, to the degree that women and dependent children are indispensable but relatively vulnerable. the problem today is really a terminal inflation of gynocentrism. ultimately society must support the interests of children becoming successful adults, before those of women, or men - or the society gets replaced. just the natural reality of it all.
How does she get away with being so outspoken, when Rick meta, for example, a tenured professor, was fired? Maybe because he taught at a backwater university?
Dave, thank you for an excellent interview with Janice Fiamengo. This is the first I've heard of her , and will continue to follow her. She is smart, sensitive and rational, a rare combo these days!
Just curious, was your dad involved in your life? When fathers aren't around, I feel sorry for boys. You need to get in touch with some male authority figures to teach you about life. Your mother is a decent person I'm sure but there are some things men need to know and women aren't really in touch with. Good luck to you .
Then you did her a potentially life saving service. Not sure that left has any kind of medals for people who do what you and Janice did - but there should be.
Women's rights and men's rights are both subsets of human rights. Any right that cannot be considered a universal right for all humans must necessarily come at the expense of the rights of some other subset of humans.
@Max *must necessarily come at the expense* Not necessarily. As we have seen "often", perhaps. Yeah, I get where you're coming from. But to give a female a right to affordable menstruation hygiene, or the pill (or morning after pill), doesn't "necessarily" have to come at the expense of men.
Darth KEK the granting of any positive rights to one group (like your example) implies the violation of the negative rights of some other group. A subsidy in one area of the economy requires taxation in another area of the economy equal to (only possible in theory) or exceeding subsidisation in the other area.
@@darthkek1953 the only way to achieve giving women cheap access to these things are either price control or subsidizing the cost. Unless you are advocating for a women only tax that pays for women specific programs, which I would fully support, I cant see how you would grant a "right" to something that excludes men by definition without taking resources from men.
@@armandasgucaitis1921 liberal ideas is what got us to this madness in the first place. Welfare was the first step removing the father from the family was the second mistake and defending minority groups their rights was strike three. Tossing family values was the begining of the virus that has affected society. Giving single mothers complete control on how to bring up boy was the last straw. Now we are encouraging young boys and girls to cut up their body parts before the age of maturity which is 25 years of age. Who knew that today it's okay to cut off a little boys penis because his mom wants a girl instead. And how many future citizens are we killing every day through abortion. I have seen pain in my day but nothing like this madness.
I say SHAME on all professors who are not publicly supporting Jordan's, Janice's and Gad's right to speak their mind - I would be embarrassed to be taught by such low lives!!
Nobody would want to risk losing their jobs. You're not thinking straight. Going against the norms takes huge courage and not everyone can step out to do it until someone does and leads the rest to follow. Much like Batman saving Gotham.
I've learned more from a couple wonderful Canadian professors on UA-cam, then I did it my commuter college in 5 years from any social sciences professor.
You DO realize that we now need a Janice Fiamengo part 2 don't you? Where did the time go? So much more to talk about. I just love her reasoning and opinion.
I discovered, and subscribed to, Janice's video's just a few months ago. Thrilled to see Dave's interview with Prof Flamengo. I have only daughter's and ensure they're raised through this lens, not with feminazi rage.
SQUEEEEEEEEE! I'm so excited to see Fiamengo on the show! When I was in college and taking my required sociology class, I stumbled across her youtube channel. Fiamengo was my gateway drug; I found Christina Hoff Sommers shortly after discovering Fiamengo and then The Rubin Report. It's nice how this all circles back around. I'm really happy to see her on here.
Professor Fiamengo is very informed and well spoken. I cannot tell you how thankful I am for her sharing her knowledge and doing so in such an empathetic way.
About time! She's brilliant and deserves far more recognition in the intellectual and cultural sphere. Well done, Dave! Now interview the autodidact and altogether extraordinary human being Karen Straughan PLEASE!
Janice talking about 9-11 reminds me so much of a gal I dated briefly years ago, who told me she wasn't shocked on that fateful day and the U.S. got what it deserved. That was probably my moment where I realized just how badly colleges were indoctrinating students into a radical way of thinking.
"... wasn't shocked on that fateful day and the U.S. got what it deserved." This does not mean what you think it means. I am not American, but I am in many ways a fan of America, and I think that anyone who did not see this coming must be an utter moron! Good people had warned something like this could, and WOULD happen if preventive measures were not taken. And they were not. Saying that the US got what it deserved does not mean the the terrorists were right, or that the attacks were justified, it just means that the US should have been prepared, but it was not, and so, what happened, happened.
Grubnar. Let me clarify, she said she wasn't moved emotionally by the events of the day, meaning she wasn't horrified at watching thousands of citizens, not government officials mind you, die that day. Just because you have your own take on the events doesn't mean you have insight into a personal conversation that you were not involved in. I only cited that particular conversation cause it mirrored the story Janice related, but trust me there was more anecdotal evidence to point toward an anti-American sentiment this gal had.
Mrs. Christian, what do you expect when they don't even like or have any respect for their own country. I imagine a lot of them have a bit of a snooty attitude towards the US to begin with. You must be relieved you got out of there long ago seeing as how nutty it's become.
ED Shawn, I remember having my own conversation a couple of days after the attacks with a couple of people about exhibiting patriotism in the light of what happened. I don't have a transcript of the conversation so I don't remember the exact words but one of the persons did not feel swayed in the slightest toward any sort of patriotic sentiment or displays of patriotism. Pretty sad.
I stopped bothering with applying for post-docs and tenure-track positions a couple years ago. I had a solid publication history, amazing recommendations, and my degrees are from ivy league (for my BSc) and a top 10 public university (for my PhD). I saw enough gender and racial based hiring practices to motivate me to leave academia since I'm at such a disadvantage being a white man. I got tired of dealing with it, so I left to pursue other things. Although it wasn't my original plan, I'm not at all dissatisfied with the direction my life has taken. I live a comfortable life and have a great family; my wife is the primary breadwinner since she has a 6-figure tech job and I am a stay-at-home dad who does freelance consulting work to pay for our vacations plus fund and manage our portfolio. I'm not saying all this as a sob story, nor bragging about anything either ... just adding my experience to the dialogue.
Brian R oh man I am so sorry. That should not have happened to you. Please don't let this crap stand in your way towards success. You earned , not through white privileges or any such nonsense. Face book your story. I will share it. Trust me, push and push harder. Tell the world what has stopped you. Write letters to your leaders starting with the school board. God bless you. Many grammar will appreciate your story.
Brian R I really hope you are happy and as a women your life path sounds great. I am really curious those due to societal stereotypes it is common to believe staying home as a Dad is not a fulfilling life, I was just curious if that is true or if gender roles really could be interchangeable and still result in a happy marriage and fulfilling life for both partners?
Why not just go out and buy whatever you want with your wife's earnings, keep your own earnings for yourself, then run off on a motorcycle with some other hot chick because "wife wasn't home enough and became distant" while mobilizing the state against her to take half her shit and then pay you out for 15 to 20 years? After all, it would be all her fault! Now THAT would be equality :)
As an European who has watched a couple of Jordan Petersons videos I think he and probably the other professors are actually not very competent to teach here. They talk about social issues from the heart, not from the head and they come from America, they have no idea how Europeans actually think and live like, because things are different here. I have often seen American videos including Western Europe into their ideologies. First of all, Western Europe consists of countries that speak different languages and have different cultures from one another that have different policies and governments and aren't even close to how North America is and second North American social problems are our source of entertainment and rarely our own exact problem. I live in Germany and our social problems aren't mainly about race or gender, but about immigrants, terrorists, corona protestors, Nazis, pathetic digitalization, awful transportation system, building sites, lack of kindergardens and doctors and schools that are so old that it wouldn't be surprising if they collapsed. Our professors do get cancelled and fired more often than ever before, but yet so far it had almost always to do with climate change, corona or immigration which is also quite sad.
It feels so nice to hear women all over the place saying, "Wait a minute, this is wrong". I look up to my grandma, aunts, mother and girlfriend so much as the incredible women they are. I genuinely feel bad for women who do not have a strong and masculine good male role model in their life they look up to themselves. I decided a few months ago, I am no longer going to feel bad for being a white male. If people want to waste their life being upset with me, they can. But I am going to move forward in my life and be a good man in today's society. We simply need more good men and they are so important. Side note: Should women be required to sign up for the draft? No. As men, we should feel an obligation to protect women and children. If somebody gets offended by that, that's fine. It won't change my stance of believing men should always protect women.
Do you believe in equality? Historically child birth was the female equivilent to men going to war. It was dangerous and many died as a result, as in wars. Today child birth is far from as dangerous while large scale wars is likely to remain just as if not more so. I sympathize with your sentiment of women not going to war, for the simple reason that I cannot imagine the woman I love going to war. Is that any different from what a female would feel about their man though? Im sure it depend alot on the individual differences as some people seem more ready for voilence then do others. But isnt that true for both male and females? My question to you is, given the presupposition that equaliy of opportunity is the goal for male and females being able to compete and coexist on equal terms. What should females have to do to compensate the fact that males have to live out their lives knowing that they might one day have to forfeit their lives to protect their women?
@@TS-mt6rmGreat question! I don't know everything, but I believe equality of opportunity (by the law) is completely equal. Equality of privilege, however, is not equal. I believe people still have the ability to create their own opportunity instead of wait and hope the government steps in and does something about it. Men and women are biologically different, and both so important to society. All traits in men and women should be celebrated and encouraged. Women are capable, and so are men. I would rather judge somebody on their character and values rather than their gender and skin tone.
@@beauruns Im with you all the way on the things you have listed in your reply. I just dont see how thats consistent with equality before the law. If a woman is able to defend her country and the country needs her it should be her duty as it is a mans duty. Anything less and its unequality.
@@TS-mt6rm If women want to sign up for the draft, I believe they have the right to do so. However, do you think women should be required to sign up for the draft? I don't think so. I don't see this as being "unequal". Because I still believe men should feel a moral obligation to protect the women of our country, which is something that has been so lost. I can see the argument in the sense where a draft needs more than all boys between 18-26, but that will never happen. Even then, I would rather go off to war at 30 than a young woman getting drafted. Not meaning she wouldn't be able to, as many women are more than capable, but from the sense of men feeling a responsibility to protect out mothers, daughters, girlfriends, wives, sisters and friends. All to say, you bring up good provoking thoughts. I just believe we should celebrate differences in genders, while also giving all opportunity with open arms if one chooses that path.
@@TS-mt6rm Also, just to add. You bring up very good points. At the end of the day, I am not going to look at women and think I am being treated more unfair than them when I see the incredible work they do.
Bravo to this woman.she is now probably on an “endangered professors” list. I am Canadian and ashamed of my country in recent years because of our present Government leadership. There is no honour in our Government, and a lot of lies.
Has absolutely nothing to do with anything, but this woman is just incredibly beautiful. Especially when she smiles. Oh and she's actually making intelligent points.
@@charliechaplin7959 So, thanks for agreeing, first of all. Now, I'm pretty sure that last part is sarcasm (though it is the internet so who knows). What I can't tell is what point you are making with it. I started to write out all the ways that could be interpreted, but there's just so many that I gave up. Could you clarify what your point was, please?
I have watched probably at least about 2,000 hours of UA-cam videos in my lifetime and this is one of the best hours I have ever seen. Supremely useful. Thanks!
What to me is most interesting and awful about the idea that men have to spend every waking moment caring and sacrificing for others is that it has always been that way, but the attitude towards it has changed. Men, for various and sundry reasons, have historically and typically been valued for what they DO rather than who they ARE. They are the providers and protectors, and failure to do those things is failure at being a man (which is also why attacks on make productivity are the default... Fat, virgin neckbeards living in their parents' basement). Disposibility has always been the default attitude towards men. Men have traditionally navigated this by ennobling it as something heroic. Growth into taking on these responsibilities was a hero's journey into maturity. But in today's politics, the aspect of heroism has been removed. The idea of male disposability still exists, the idea that men are only good for what they can do, but we've denied that there is anything noble or heroic about it. Now it's validated by a belief that any given man should silently bear the punishment for the historic "privilege" of all men... A life of menial, unrewarded desperation for which you are held in perpetual contempt. Unsurprisingly, fewer and fewer men are enthusiastic about this whole idea. No wonder that Peterson is getting famous. He's offering up that narrative of ennobling, heroic male responsibility that makes life as a man even remotely bearable.
@Dreamboat MacGillicutty I think this is why a Christian world view is meaningful. God created man to have dominion over the earth and all living creatures. Woman were created as a coequal working along side man caring for family and the responsibilities of community. I think these roles such as they are are useful in defining the way we operate in society. Their will always be exceptions to this of course. Your point about having ownership and responsibility over one's domain is hugely important because that's what the man is fighting for. He's fighting for the survival of himself as well as his family and their should be reverence for that role just as women are care takers and nurturers. She is essentially the glue to the family unit. Loved reading your post. Makes some good observations.
@Dreamboat MacGillicutty What do you mean by authority? Seems to me that one is incapable of being responsible for something over which they have no authority. And having authority is not necessarily the ultimate incentive, though it could be for some. The benefit of taking responsibility is to give life meaning. If you don't take responsibility, what is life about? It definitely doesn't apply only to men, either--not saying you claimed that was/is the case.
Why on earth should the value of a man be determined by what he provides others? Why can't a man be judged on the life he builds for himself, for the qualities of his intellect and the achievements he strives for rather than simply as a never-ending wallet for someone else? I find this aspect of Peterson inherently enfeebling for men, the insistence that you can only be valued by others for what you provide for them, instead of for being the type of man that you yourself can respect
@@AeneasGemini I didn't say it was good, just that it has been the historic and traditional attitude towards men. One could get deeper into why - harnessing male power and ambition so it doesn't turn pathological and violent, for example - but my point was that the idea of male disposability is nothing new.
Very interesting. Two things saved her, her upbringing and love of literature. The foundation of a conservative two parent family is so sorely looked over. Also, if you read you can think deeper, and if you read rather than listen to pop culture, so much better life.
When she was talking about how feminists want to rewrite history and then she started talking about how people were saying all the laws are named after men I almost lost brain 🧠 cells. They’re simply named after the person who makes the discovery. How can any rational scientist advocate for naming a law after someone who didn’t even come up with the idea. I feel so sorry for the world my kids are going to grow up in 🤦🏿♂️
@Lloyd Braun I know what you mean. I have recommended to my four sons that they never get married. Having said this, if they find a girl who can walk on water, I reserve the right to change my mind.
winston cormie I don’t like these statements because my mom is a woman and even now, as a grown man, I haven’t discovered anything bad about her. Nothing. She doesn’t even like to swear! She’s literally just a hard worker who took care of her kids... Teach your kids their worth not to look down on love.
To hear this from a woman is probably the single, most soothing and moving thing I've experienced in years. Thank you, 'Teach', for being an honest, critical thinker and for demonstrating such genuine feminine strength. This is the kind of wonan men like me want to love.
As a non-tenured professor at the UofT, I confirm that I would think twice before saying anything that could even potentially aggravate our thought police. I fully support what Jordan Peterson is doing, but simply cannot risk being fired. I have kids to feed. I know this is far from ideal, but alas I am not the bravest person out there...
Unfortunately, you are correct. I don't deny that. I also know that there are many in my same predicament. There are many who are afraid to put their foot wrong, simply because they are not as articulate or as educated in political topics as Jordan. The system is not forgiving - any slightest tint on one's image will almost certainly disqualify that person if they apply for a job. Personally, I am waiting for my tenure to become vocal. At least with a tenure, it will be much harder for the system to get rid of me. And that's the risk that I will take; for now, it's all about providing for my family. Your point still holds though...
The Plague of Politically Correct Fascism “I had a good friend, a sweet elderly gentleman who was unabashedly gay, and he passed away several years ago. He used to denounce gay marriage in the most vicious manner and, so one day, I asked him what inspired such strong sentiments. He responded, “Honey, I can’t stand religions since most seem to have issues with those of my kind...and I can not fathom why any gay person would embrace any institution such as marriage that is a religious sacrament. In doing so, they only succeed in offending the religious majority and creating even more hatred against my kind. It just makes no sense!” Today, my gay friend would be unable to voice openly such a contrarian opinion since, within a society under thrall of politically correct fascists, aka, neo-McCarthyites, such a sentiment would be deemed to be a “hate crime.” Until the politically correct fascists are removed from their positions of power in our society, particularly within the academe and Big Media, then the suppression of free speech will continue and everybody will be compelled to walk upon eggshells, no matter what their race, religion, or sexual preference.” _________________ Catman Cohen, 2017
@@StepheneMacharia Don't come in here white Knighting for this woman. She doesn't need you. I guarantee Janice would love to read a few comments from young men saying she has nice hair or is good looking. Who are you to dictate what "respect" is??
This is amazing. Listening to this was like hearing myself. I am an alumni of UoSaskatchewan in the 70s and felt the Leftist indoctrination then. My daughter just graduated from UofS Vet Medicine in a class of 79 with only 11 men in her class. She had several very shocking, hateful, experiences of anti-conservative attacks from both classmate and worse, even from the Professors. The UofS has turned every faculty, every program over to Indigenous studies, based upon the idea that White colonialism has stolen their culture and so it must now replace our White British/French history with Indigenous history. I have written to the President of the University and copied the Dean of VetMed to express my concerns. I have taken it a step further. I've been a consistent donor to the University over the last 20 years. I have withdrawn my donations and removed the University of Sask, & Uof Alberta too, from my Estate Trust fund.
The best thing is as an emotionally healthy woman she would regard your comment with mild understanding and bemusement. With at least a basic understanding of men, she could see it for the sign of mild admiration that it is.
This interview was eye opening - I did not know that even some men from the early era did not have the right to vote. Her simple conversation breathes sense into a lot of social issues that are currently in public discourse. It diagnoses and offers facts backed up with consistent and real world examples time after time. I truly respect her courage and her intellect. We need more professors like her. It was highly instructive and a pleasure to listen to you Prof. Fiamengo.
I’ve been following Janice for quite a while. She’s sharp, calculated, articulate, and completely unapologetic. I love this woman.
Me too!
I listen and believe you!
And beautiful as well. Didn't think I'd ever use this term, but here we are... she's a GILF if I ever saw one.
I'm not ashamed to admit that
great hair too!
Me too!
I wish there were more women like her in my life.
we all wish the same...life would be so amazing. But thanks to media and " idiocracy" it will never happen because emotion has taken advantage of intelligence in our society.
Be that person for yourself and others. Thats how you get more people like her.
Amen.
You have atleast one of them as a profile picture
She does everything that feminists wanted and fought for though
Isn't it funny how it takes balls for somebody to just have normal thoughts and opinions these days..?
Aww yes it's pretty twisted Miketrt, but I like that this has been posted over a year ago and there's still a logical, honest and open dialogue going on here, gives me hope.
True
because 'normal' thoughts are for idiots
Amandeep Wahi I know that situation is happening mostly in middle eastern countries which happen to be in a 3rd world category, as you say. It’s due to the fact, their religion is a big factor to their societal practices. That’s where feminism should be active and not to those places that have over privileged women that are constantly whining when there are small things they find unfair. However, there are still many 3rd world countries including Philippines that has no issues between men and women’s equality and rights. We have equal opportunities here for everyone’s information. There is no competing against genders, as I observed. women are acting women and men are acting men. There is No “I’m different or fuck societal roles and norms” mindset going on.
@@Jaredthedude1 so taliban members are clever?
Straight black male here. I love Janice Fiamengo. In an era where dissenting opinions are crushed, this woman represents hope
You Sir are awesome!!
Thank you. I also see many people of color speak against feminism. Lying feminists such as Laura Bates claim that anti-feminists are white supremacists, which is the biggest nonsense someone has ever heard.
It makes me so sad how men are treated these days. Men and women should act as a team, not as enemies or competitors.
never lose this perspective, we need women like you. Thank you.
marry me.
Just, thank you
The hunter/gatherer dynamic has worked for thousands of years and now people want to destroy it. I don't get it either.
Another insane part of this that really burns me up...if all my identity is that I'm over privileged purely by virtue of my maleness, that would have to mean that the hard work and sacrifice of my Hispanic immigrant Mother is completely pointless and irrelevant. So coming at me for male privilege actually directly disregards and disrespects a minority female's contributions to the world...
Janice Fiamengo is an amazing woman, someone millenial females (and males) can and should learn from. Glad you were able to get her on, Dave @The Rubin Report.
You can subscribe to StudioBrule. Janice posts quality content there. I agree, she is awesome.
Great interview. Dave always has interesting guests. PS...South Park is funnier than ever. Keep it up.
Dave,
Your guests are great and you're doing a good job with who and how you have these engaging discussions with. Janice Fiamengo is awesome, I've been listening to her UA-cam videos for a few years now.
Please get some new chairs. Your new studio looks a little spartan and those low, deep back chairs are counter productive to a good upright, engaged discussion (always seem to need the extra pillows). When guests and yourself are always fidgeting, rearranging your posture and trying to find a comfortable, relaxed physical posture, the conversation is going to suffer as much as your anatomy.
Spend some money old sport and raise the conservation and maybe the coffee table as well. Look at how your legs are splayed to one side or the other, knees almost banging on the table, no real comfort to the postures of you or your guest. It almost seems like an effort to be too casual, too laid back, forcing you to compensate with pillows and unnatural posture. You and your guest must be naturally comfortable, mindlessly comfortable, so your focused minds are engaged with the conversation and not your physical discomfort. It will make the talks go much better so time will fly by. It now seems as if your viewers, guests and yourself can't wait for it to be over before you're two thirds done. Not because of an uninteresting conversation but because of an uncomfortable physical environment. I think your viewers are as uncomfortable watching as are you and your guests are sitting.
Keep up your good work and interesting conversations!
Matt Stone Being a millennial has nothing to do with it past them being at the age where they are inexperienced and impressionable. Janice said she herself was indoctrinated back in the early 1990s.
@@johnboylan3832 You would be downplaying it by saying it "it has nothing to do with it". Who is more inexperienced and more impressionable than a millennial?
On rewriting history, I stumbled across the website of a medieval historian a few years ago, and one of the posts was about the "common knowledge" that in the middle ages girls as young as 13 or 14 were "routinely" married off to men much older than them.
While the historian said that there were cases of such things happening, after sifting through hundreds of church registers, they found that the average age of first marriage for women was something like 19 or 20, and for men it was just a couple years older.
Likewise, the "common knowledge" that women were "brood mares" doomed to being pregnant, in childbed or nursing their entire lives. On the contrary, the average number of pregnancies per woman was 5, and the average number per woman of kids who survived childhood was 3.
The historian hypothesized that we have these ideas because it's not the "average" life that makes it into the history books, mythology or fictional stories--kind of like the everyday lives of non-extraordinary people don't make the papers these days. If one were to take only the really sensational stuff on TV today and put it in a time capsule, an alien species opening it in 1000 years might assume that the stories therein were broadly representative of everybody's lives. They'd think having triplets and quintuplets is common (Jon and Kate +8), and that it was murder and mayhem all the time for us.
One thing I think is really telling about history is the incident that formed the outcry to change marital property laws. A woman in London (was it Millicent Fawcett?) had her purse stolen. In court, the bailiff read that the money contained therein was the property of her husband. She was shocked that she didn't own the money in her own purse, because she'd been behaving her entire marriage as if it was her money, and so had her husband. An analysis of court cases brought by women against their husbands in England from 1600 to 1750 (if I recall) indicated that LOTS of women were under the impression that the property they brought into the marriage was theirs. There were women operating under an "onerous" legal handicap that only really came up when a husband mismanaged the woman's property or sold it against her wishes (which wasn't very often).
On the other hand, the flipside of the marital property laws was a woman's entitlement to financial support from her husband (an everyday thing), and the Law of Agency, which entitled her to act as his legal agent and purchase goods on his credit (another everyday thing).
And of course, when Britain changed its marital property laws, it removed women's property from their husbands' control, but kept all the flipside stuff intact. Which seems to be a very silly thing for a male-privileging patriarchy to do.
Karen, I know nicotine is a stimulant but how the hell do you pull off these long ass comments *every* time you comment?
Do you have the capacity for one liners?
karen straughan, just love listening to you. Really appreciate how you cut through the ‘overburden’ and get to the minerals. You’re always helpful and interesting. Thanks.
Interesting stuff.
Love Karan and Janice.
I love that you talk about things that escape people.
Interesting take on women getting everything their way but men nada. The modern MSM, politicians, corporations also are anti-men.
Men empower women to take down other men. Insane that a man will use women to eliminate other men. But much like metoo, women do not understand their power will easily dissolve, once they go after the same powerful men that enable them. The female logic always fails them.
But Karen, you are hope that sanity can return. But I think you were born with male logic. Guesstimating, probably 10% or less women posses your logic. Men are probably 50-50. 50% have it, and 50 don't. At least this to me explains why men are always split in EVERYTHING in life....from voting patterns to marriage to.....everything.
There is a flipside to this point about history. People like Peterson want us to believe that incidents like the Lindsey Shepard fiasco are the norm for current law. They work very hard to take these cases and make these the narratives of future history. Forget about Aliens. What will future historians say about us?
The thing is, we all have motivation to exaggerate the negative eliments we see on the other side.
Are women represented enough in coal mines ? I never heard them protesting about that.
same in the barge industry. I have only heard of a couple of pilots, and i have yet to see a female deckhand. Three and a half years on the ohio river.
@@drewkossen9324 I think I meet one .. but she was pretty good with her hands, among other things ( . no calluses .. ).
lol
Exact
Women sewer repair people unite!!
Thank you for starting off the interview by talking about my case, Dr. Fiamengo!
Thanks for what you do Rick. Keep standing tall. There was a hint you can be on here too! Hope so!
Thank you, Rick. Best wishes. Glad she brought up your situation so more will be aware.
Just subbed to you bud to show support
Keep strong Rick... we support you. Fiamengo, Peterson & Mehta; The voices of reason.
Agreed. And thank you for having the courage to stand up and take a principled stand for the right of free people (for now) to say what they think believe to be true. The Bolshevik left wanted to punish you and make an example of you in order to intimidate anyone else who would dare to deviate from their script. It must be an enormous sacrifice for you and your family. God bless you and your family.
Guys, just in case you don't know, this is how an intelligent, rational, and well spoken woman looks, sounds, and behaves. Accept no substitutes.
You speak truth. I married a Canadian much like this, best thing that ever happened to me. My wife is not an educator like her, but I see a lot of my wife in this woman. Of course I must say that my wife is more attractive! (My wife might see this post)
@Cameron Pangborn right?
Beta.
If thinking women turn you on, check out alfsvoid's channel here on YT, she's a veritable modern Hypatia.
@@gurugeorge Well now I have to read all about Hypatia. As if I didn't already have 50+ tabs open. Sigh...
Janice and Jordan,Makes me proud that Canada is making such an important contribution to restoring sanity!
Yeah, ok. We'll hold off on building the wall on the northern border and give some of you time to get out. But the threat to the south of us, they just want the money. The Canadian threat is to our way of life.
Carey; to be fair, you had some making up to do after giving the world Bieber, Carrey and Trudeau
Yeah .... a handful of white blood cells in a body overrun by the feminist social justice virus. Sorry; very little left for Canada to be proud of
Canada is out of control, I'm not Canadian but damn. Hold down the fort bro
Janice....yes. Jordan....no. I think he's really Ray Finkle, and he escaped from Bellevue.
I’m also an anti feminist and it was refreshing to hear this interview, thank you!
Stick to your principles Elaine
I was an anti-feminist in the sixties, and am still an anti-feminist now. They have done more damage by far than any perceived good.
I find the “women in stem” debate extremely hypocritical. There are already more women than men in stem. Yes, physics and computer science have more men. So what? Let people choose what they want.
I once asked, at my university, why we only target young girls, but not young boys.
Apparently the boys will come anyways, but the girls need encouragement.
They all need encouragement. The more bright minds we can get, no matter the gender, the better.
Are you only referring students or government jobs in stem? I highly doubt that is correct otherwise.
MySmart Device as an attack helicopter I am offended at your statement that we are not people!
Ask them why they are nor encouraging young boys to be teachers
An excellent question. I have taught mathematics -- to both boys and girls -- for 25 years. Nowhere have I seen or heard of educators discouraging girls from challenging themselves mathematically or from pursuing careers in mathematics.
I am happy to encourage girls, including my own daughters, to consider careers in the STEM field. That said, the concern comes when a girl freely chooses to go into another field and for some reason people consider that to be a "wasted" choice.
Women are not my equal.
Feel free to think whatever you want though.
Thank you Rubin for this interview. Janice is someone I admire especially with her unfazed voicing of unpopular values in our current culture.
So do you think women should have less right then men? That's basically what Janice said at the end.
She's lovely. The sort of woman who will sit down with you and have a serious conversation. That's all we need.
A humble, open-minded genius. Much respect Janice.
Janice represents what I thought Feminists were back when I considered myself Feminist.
So much this .
Camilla Paige ashamed to say this is my first Janice experience....shes very sound and reasonable...i like her
@Dreamboat MacGillicutty oh right....because societies where women are systematically oppressed are pinnacles of civilization, hm?
lilmissyblee1981 Interesting isn’t it, considering the faux concern from these same men about Muslim men and the treatment of Muslim women... 🙄. So, is it that female empowerment is bad or are Muslim men justified in their beliefs about women?
Ha ha, well, wow. That's kind of like being under the impression that the center of the sun is where the coldest temperatures of the universe are found.
I was profoundly moved by Mrs. Fiamengo's words. What a tremendous speaker and what a tremendous personality. Thank you.
This Lady takes no prisoners
But in a good way - I love her courage and her clarity of thought!
@Ian Burns -- That's why she was dragged before one of these creepy Canadian Human Rights Tribunals.
In the old days, employers hired people who were competent, and did the job. Hiring for any other reason guarantees degraded performance.
That's right. Imagine you need eye surgery. Would you shop for a surgeon based on gender or race? I'm guessing you probably would not. Of course you could go woke, but you might also go blind.
Exactly. Theres nothing worse than hearing someone say they are going into a "male dominated field" and expect you to clap. Thats like men working as a nurse or a "female dominated field" and expecting something special. Do your job and the one you are good at and picked.
As a Canadian, I am both ashamed by what is happening in my country, and proud that we have great thinkers and speakers like Dr Fiamenco, Dr Peterson and many others. These are the people that give me hope for the future and that of my children.
Thank you, Dave Rubin, by sharing your platform to bring these voices of reason to light.
I’m also a Canadian. I agree 100% with you. I’ve seen Peterson twice! If you get a chance, see The Lobfather, he is something to behold. I just recently ‘found’ Fiamengo! Remember, we all go to the polls in 2019!
@@winskypinsky yes, looking forward to that election like none before.
I too have seen Dr P twice, most recently on his book tour (along with Rubin) last July.
I will look up the "Lobfather"; have not heard of him before.
Justin Trudeau and his crazy liberals negate all this. Do you read the Toronto Star or Globe and Mail or Macleans? It will take more than Peterson and this admirable woman to turn the tide.
@@rossg9361
Mark Steyn
Stefan Molyneux
Dan Dicks
Gavin McInnes
Steven Crowder
Conrad Black
Above are either Canadian or have lived in Canada with voices on multiple platforms that speak some common sense.
Dr Gad Saad
Dr Rick Mehta
Tom Quiggin
Joe Hazelton
Adam Daniel Mezei
Frank Vaughan
Billy Joyce
Northern Patriot
Arana Nation
Kelly Day
Faith Goldy
Above (and more) all have a presence on platforms like UA-cam with pretty dedicated following discussing Canadian issues.
All are getting the message out to different audiences (centrist/classical liberal to libertarian right).
I have hope.
Martin Liehs The Lobfather is Jordan Peterson. They call him that because of his lobster hierarchy example in Chapter One of 12 Rules for Life.
I'm a professor at a mid-sized regional university in New England. I taught my first college class in 1976 and am now nearing retirement. Like Janice, I teach literature. Intellectually, college-level teaching these days is about like teaching high school was back in the 70's. Anti-intellectualism, in the form of moralizing platitudes, has simply run rampant for the past two decades. We have a whole curriculum based on making the students good people, as opposed to instilling any academic rigor.Tenure, by the way, is rapidly disappearing, because the model of a "university" has become corporate. I've actually been lectured by administrators on how we owe the students "customer service." I'm glad I'm getting out soon.
This is part of why I became so disillusioned with college. It's a business catering to the lowest common denominator. The inmates are running that prison.
Thank you for sticking with your values and doing a good job for all these years. I hope some students were inspired.
My Portuguese teacher (I'm Brazilian, we speak Portuguese here) was such an inspiration for me in high school. She was the only one that could teach peacefully, in a broken public school system, because she demanded discipline and excellence in studies and behavior. Thanks to her I persued my bachelor's degree in psychology. She was fired last year. No colleagues had her back and actually helped to build a case against her when she tried to talk to the city's education ministry about the school worsening indicators. I can only hope that she found a better job, that matches her capacities and gives her the freedom she didn't have. (Sorry for my english. It is not my first language. Any corrections are welcome.)
defuse56 please speak out and help expose the hypocrisy and veiled anti thinkers
Last summer I completed my first year in the BA programme of English lit.
I was so excited to choose from (nearly) all the courses available to me in the coming semester.
As the semester went on I became more and more disappointed with what we look at in classes: Questionable secondary articles and always gender. It seems like this bias focussing on gender is very prominent, and I simply don't buy it.
I honestly feel a little bit let down by the university, because I really want to learn more. I want to be able to work academically, I want to acquire knowledge, take in as much as I can to come up with valuable ideas thereafter.
I guess I will have to teach myself then. But if I ever get into the position to teach others, I want to do it differently. I do not want to feed this culture of hate.
Those are the same reasons, I like many others opted to never go to college because anything I can learn in a university I can learn in my municipal library for free. Plus I don't have to put up with everyone else's horseshit. My years of highschool was spent listening to teachers tell the students to shut up 8 hours every day and that went on for years until I was finally able to get out. A school is a place to learn, shut your face or GTFO.
"to say to young men, your not crazy. our culture is actually crazy"....preach
As a person with 2 degrees in STEM I can say that every female that I have come across in my many years of schooling has been against the "Oppressed" mindset. The women making these claims that STEM is sexist aren't even in the field. I think it is because it's a hard field and they are just butt-hurt that the woman who do make it through the programs are smarter than them. Engineering has the highest fail rate, 900+ students my freshmen year, 46 graduated(not like a few graduated a semester late I mean the other 850+ changed majors or dropped out we only had 20-25 per semester graduate so that 46 was the entire year.) Every single women in my latest program had a well paying job before they graduated. It's because they were the best of us not because of their sex or skin color.
Being in the same position as you, I agree entirely. I went to two separate schools, a liberal arts University and an engineering school. I only knew one woman that believed these things at the engineering school but nearly everyone at the library arts school believed all the typical liberal talking points. It was so bad that my girlfriend at the time came back from class nearly on tears because she was berated by her classmates in her communications class when she said she wants to be a primary School teacher so she can be with her children. They said she was part of the problem, being complicit in the patriarchy's oppression, along with many other very hurtful things. That was at the liberal arts school, of course.
yeh totally agree - im a web developer and i'm not bothered that the majority of my colleagues are men. i also dont think that women "dont understand their options" when it comes to career - i actually find it insulting.
You sexist misogynist!
Indeed. We, in fact, hate quotas. It takes away our own worth.
In my first year of EE at college I was friend with the only women in my class. I don't remember her ever complaining of any discrimination or harassment not did I witness any. To the contrary she was treated with the utmost respect. But like you said it had a 90% dropout/failure rate, and she withdrew after 6 weeks off the first semester....along with dozens of men. I don't see how the program could of been made any more friendly for her or w0men in general.
Wow! I am Canadian and I thoroughly approve this message.
Hey Janice! Finally getting some more recognition. :)
Janice Fiamengo is awesome. What a clear thinking, rational bad ass.
Agreed, 100% bad ass. Janice is the man! So to speak. LOL
She’s completely right. My feminist sister started screaming at me, saying that I thought all feminists were idiots when I was just calmly trying to offer up a few ideas on how to get more people to agree with feminism.
I didn’t think feminists were dumb then, but now I understand why no one listens to them.
'My feminist sister started screaming at me...' You've got it right there brother.
I understand how you feel. My mother is the same way. I gave up trying to have any sort of rational discussion with her awhile ago
Feminism is just a manifestation of female hysteria and neuroticism.
The message to women growing up since the 60s: you can do anything!!! Except be a happy encouraging confident homemaker/full-time wife/mother.
April The message since the late 60's going into the 70's..80's and after was you could have everything. By the late 70's almost 40% of all Computer Science graduates were Women. Now despite many years of encouraging Women, it's only 16-18%. Both my Mom and Dad were working full time by 1970. The message to women (and anyone really) is simple, do what makes you really happy...work, home both but remember sacrifices will always be required because no one can do everything.
They have been increasingly spoiled, and do not have the desire or the perseverance to do most difficult things. Even motherhood is all too often thought as to difficult by many women these days.
I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back an' pretend
'Cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again
Oh yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can do anything
I am strong
(Strong)
I am invincible
(Invincible)
I am woman
You can bend but never break me
'Cause it only serves to make me
More determined to achieve my final goal
And I come back even stronger
Not a novice any longer
'Cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul
Oh yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can do anything
I am strong
(Strong)
I am invincible
(Invincible)
I am woman
I am woman watch me grow
See me standing toe to toe
As I spread my lovin' arms across the land
But I'm still an embryo
With a long, long way to go
Until I make my brother understand
Oh yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can face anything
I am strong
(Strong)
I am invincible
(Invincible)
I am woman
I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am woman
Songwriters: Helen Reddy / Ray Burton 1973
great word Proverbs 31 in the amplified bible is what you are saying.
@Muslim Trump supporter M.AG.A or looked after by the taxpayer.
Janice, regarding your last 5 minutes of inflammatory commentary... that's pretty badass. Honestly, it makes me wonder too, whether the "sexists" of the past were right.
The best ending thought on Rubin so far. I cannot find where Dr. Peterson has thought this idea through the Adam and Eve story, I could use some help if anyone knows. My thoughts are that the naive nature of woman is her greatest weakness as told in Genesis. To be deceived by the "Deceiver" Satan and to have the attributes that makes a man not able to think clearly results in men stumbling over the desire to please a woman. Maybe this is related to the fact that there are thousands of strip clubs emptying men's pockets but maybe a hundred that cater to women. In relationships that work men tend to be in constant despair with themselves trying to provide resources for the woman they love. This is the price men take on personally for the enjoyment of a woman as a companion and are willing to sacrifice their lives to do so. Self sacrifice is a man and not a woman. This is why women in today's society have no problem of sacrificing their own offspring for the selfishness of being " successful ". Men are willing to die and women are willing to kill for a step up the hierarchy. This is not the way women are supposed to be and it saddens me to see it perpetuated in our culture.
Women were a mistake 😂
+Tim Morris Peterson has referred to contemporary society as a kind of "feminine" totalitarianism (vs the masculine totalitarianism of the 20th century). Can't remember when or where, unfortunately; he has a massive amount of online content!
For those asking here's JP on female totalitarianism:
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@@cowabungadude7408 a gynocracy
I've followed Janice for years, she has been a reasonable voice and has made me feel I was not alone in my thoughts a few years ago. She has no doubt saved men's lives. Bless you Janice!
Enjoyed this interview a lot. Very impressed with the no-nonsense logic of this professor.
I can't help but clap at 47:00.
I'm a 17 year old girl and have grown up exclusively in a time where feminism has both been crazy and possessed such power. I have never experienced an instance of actual sexism in my life. However, I have had the fruits of affirmative action throughout my entire schooling life.
I struggle to understand how anyone with a similar experience can go through a school system that constantly screeches about the sexism against women and think that women are some how a lower class.
Whenever I ask other young women about this sexism they can never really produce any solid examples. Most jump to the debunked wage-gap, cat-calling or list things that happened to women ages ago.
I don't understand how you can be in such a lovely environment but maintain the idea that you are a victim...
I agree completely. I'm a woman in STEM (Electrical Engineer) and it irritates me how people harp on about how women are discouraged from the STEM field. It's not true at all. Everywhere I look, I see encouragement for girls to get into STEM. I don't see that for young boys at all.
I also feel that I have benefited greatly from affirmative action and that irritates me the most. I never know if I've been hired or promoted because I was the best candidate or because I'm a woman. It's so unbelievable how other millennial women (especially those who are also in STEM) still think that they are victims of some patriarchy. Yes, STEM is mostly men (especially in Electrical Engineering) but I have never been discouraged or treated unfairly because I'm a woman. In fact, I have been encouraged to apply for promotions BECAUSE I'm a woman.
tl;dr I can't stand feminism. I want to be EQUAL, not SUPERIOR.
@@RebelliousFemale *"I want to be EQUAL, not SUPERIOR."*
Well, then feminism is exactly what you seek, I'm told. :)
I can easily imagine how incredibly annoying it must be to be a woman in a male dominated field and potentially have male colleagues talking behind one's back about the possibility of a particular - or perhaps even every - woman in that workplace solely being hired due to affirmative action. Same goes for minority races and sexualities.
Seems to me that most of those who support affirmative action 1) haven't thought it through, as affirmative action eventually WILL result in people questioning certain employees' actual merits behind their backs, and 2) are completely blind (or uncaring) to the blatant unfairness towards fully - or better - qualified individuals of a "majority group", simply due to the circumstances of their birth.
But to people like feminists, "righting a wrong" with another wrong, and doing it against the wrong (ie. innocent) individuals for some reason is totally fine. Where and how they get these morals / thought processes ingrained may seem like an easy answer to some (school, media), but I suspect that the truth may be a bit more complex than that, and therefore more difficult to do something about.
Agree. I'm in construction, working with only men, and I've personally never felt victimized or any sexism by my coworkers. I've faced sexism in the past and I know how to handle it if it ever happens (the few occurrences have happened because of insecure assholes), but I'm not going go around thinking men won't treat me as an equal. This culture today wants us to believe that inequality is rampant everywhere, labelling us as victims.
@B P "that does not account for subconcious biases and societal expectations that still effect women today."
Do you believe there aren't subconscious biases and societal expectations for MEN as well? You're basically saying "the world isn't perfect." It's not. Life is a struggle for everyone.
The answer isn't to make things unequal to promote equality.
"I don't understand how you can be in such a lovely environment but maintain the idea that you are a victim..."
Well, it's not easy. But 11-16 years of public "education" tend to get the job done.
There are no feminist on a sinking ship, nor as Bill Burr says, in house fire. Feminism has taught me one thing...that I am just as valuable as a woman. So I will no longer give up my seat, beat women in the race to the life boats, and use a woman as a ladder to escape a house fire. Thank you ladies for helping me to find my male value, and freeing me to put me first.
haha. if actual equality was implemented across the board, women would be begging for mercy.
yes. but society had to be somewhat gynocentric, to the degree that women and dependent children are indispensable but relatively vulnerable. the problem today is really a terminal inflation of gynocentrism. ultimately society must support the interests of children becoming successful adults, before those of women, or men - or the society gets replaced. just the natural reality of it all.
Unintended consequences of self indulgent behavior is often worst than the behavior!
Keirnoth but he's spreading the word about the epidemic of money grubbing whores tho...
"And ultimately Bill Burr ends up marrying a feminist. :thinking:"
Well what does that say about the undiagnosed power of females?
Shout out from Ottawa! She teaches at Ottawa U. I only just discovered this Prof. the other week, and here she is on the Rubin Report.
She's great. Here's the first, and only other, video I've seen of hers:ua-cam.com/video/cFL6k5yOAFM/v-deo.html
Ottawa in the house
Fuck the Ottawa Senators, shit hockey team. Should have gave us Karlson so Mcdavid and him can win a cup together.
How does she get away with being so outspoken, when Rick meta, for example, a tenured professor, was fired? Maybe because he taught at a backwater university?
I had one of her classes and it was refreshingly professional and not political. Great woman.
Dave, thank you for an excellent interview with Janice Fiamengo. This is the first I've heard of her , and will continue to follow her. She is smart, sensitive and rational, a rare combo these days!
Love Prof. Fiamengo
I wish there were more women like her.. True, Real, Authentic Lady !
So do I. From a woman who finds herself battling left liberals and politically correct lemmings all the time.
love this woman! excellent interview :)
You’re fantastic. A voice of compassion and reason much needed.
I redpilled my mom by showing her Janice's videos!
Sure you did. More like she tricked you. As a fellow with a feminazi mother, I can quite confidently say it can't be done.
One pill @ a time. Thanks for removing the shroud...
Just curious, was your dad involved in your life? When fathers aren't around, I feel sorry for boys. You need to get in touch with some male authority figures to teach you about life. Your mother is a decent person I'm sure but there are some things men need to know and women aren't really in touch with. Good luck to you .
Great Job keep up the good work! I'm working on red pilling a good friend of mine. Several of my younger friends have already begun to see the light.
Then you did her a potentially life saving service. Not sure that left has any kind of medals for people who do what you and Janice did - but there should be.
Women's rights and men's rights are both subsets of human rights. Any right that cannot be considered a universal right for all humans must necessarily come at the expense of the rights of some other subset of humans.
@Max *must necessarily come at the expense*
Not necessarily. As we have seen "often", perhaps. Yeah, I get where you're coming from. But to give a female a right to affordable menstruation hygiene, or the pill (or morning after pill), doesn't "necessarily" have to come at the expense of men.
Darth KEK the granting of any positive rights to one group (like your example) implies the violation of the negative rights of some other group. A subsidy in one area of the economy requires taxation in another area of the economy equal to (only possible in theory) or exceeding subsidisation in the other area.
I can't help you if you're a "tax=-rape" person.
There are no such things as men's and women's rights
@@darthkek1953 the only way to achieve giving women cheap access to these things are either price control or subsidizing the cost. Unless you are advocating for a women only tax that pays for women specific programs, which I would fully support, I cant see how you would grant a "right" to something that excludes men by definition without taking resources from men.
Greeting from Sweden.
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This was pure intellectual perfection.
A independent, intelligent human beeing.
Thank you for inviting her.
It's insane to think that the world that she is talking about is real and isn't from a dystopian novel. This is insane.
Feels like 1984 to me
I just hope this is a kind of circle or phase until we come back to classical liberal values
This is evidence of the evolution of society, the day to day changes of people who fight for their own cause.
Blame Progressive facism
@@armandasgucaitis1921 liberal ideas is what got us to this madness in the first place. Welfare was the first step removing the father from the family was the second mistake and defending minority groups their rights was strike three. Tossing family values was the begining of the virus that has affected society. Giving single mothers complete control on how to bring up boy was the last straw. Now we are encouraging young boys and girls to cut up their body parts before the age of maturity which is 25 years of age. Who knew that today it's okay to cut off a little boys penis because his mom wants a girl instead. And how many future citizens are we killing every day through abortion. I have seen pain in my day but nothing like this madness.
Janice, you are a breath of fresh air and I wish you were the norm in academia. I'm a student of social work and it's totally corrupt
First time I’ve seen this woman or heard of her. GOLD!!!
I say SHAME on all professors who are not publicly supporting Jordan's, Janice's and Gad's right to speak their mind - I would be embarrassed to be taught by such low lives!!
Much of higher education is a big racket.
Nobody would want to risk losing their jobs. You're not thinking straight. Going against the norms takes huge courage and not everyone can step out to do it until someone does and leads the rest to follow. Much like Batman saving Gotham.
I've learned more from a couple wonderful Canadian professors on UA-cam, then I did it my commuter college in 5 years from any social sciences professor.
You DO realize that we now need a Janice Fiamengo part 2 don't you? Where did the time go? So much more to talk about. I just love her reasoning and opinion.
ua-cam.com/video/XD65wnDGuTg/v-deo.html
I discovered, and subscribed to, Janice's video's just a few months ago. Thrilled to see Dave's interview with Prof Flamengo. I have only daughter's and ensure they're raised through this lens, not with feminazi rage.
Same here. I show mine Janice's videos.
Congratulations to you both! We need more like you!
SQUEEEEEEEEE! I'm so excited to see Fiamengo on the show! When I was in college and taking my required sociology class, I stumbled across her youtube channel. Fiamengo was my gateway drug; I found Christina Hoff Sommers shortly after discovering Fiamengo and then The Rubin Report. It's nice how this all circles back around. I'm really happy to see her on here.
Janice can you please come to Australia? We need saving !!!! You are amazing.
Omg I was waiting for this interview ever since I heard about Dr. Fiamengo
Saw her video on Blasey Ford and fell instantly in love.
She is the best. We need more Janice and less Blasey Ford.
This is almost two years ago, but feels like it could be last week.
Exactly.
yep so accurate.
real talk
Time goes by and it could still be last week
Professor Fiamengo is very informed and well spoken. I cannot tell you how thankful I am for her sharing her knowledge and doing so in such an empathetic way.
About time! She's brilliant and deserves far more recognition in the intellectual and cultural sphere. Well done, Dave!
Now interview the autodidact and altogether extraordinary human being Karen Straughan PLEASE!
Janice talking about 9-11 reminds me so much of a gal I dated briefly years ago, who told me she wasn't shocked on that fateful day and the U.S. got what it deserved. That was probably my moment where I realized just how badly colleges were indoctrinating students into a radical way of thinking.
"... wasn't shocked on that fateful day and the U.S. got what it deserved."
This does not mean what you think it means. I am not American, but I am in many ways a fan of America, and I think that anyone who did not see this coming must be an utter moron! Good people had warned something like this could, and WOULD happen if preventive measures were not taken. And they were not.
Saying that the US got what it deserved does not mean the the terrorists were right, or that the attacks were justified, it just means that the US should have been prepared, but it was not, and so, what happened, happened.
Grubnar. Let me clarify, she said she wasn't moved emotionally by the events of the day, meaning she wasn't horrified at watching thousands of citizens, not government officials mind you, die that day. Just because you have your own take on the events doesn't mean you have insight into a personal conversation that you were not involved in. I only cited that particular conversation cause it mirrored the story Janice related, but trust me there was more anecdotal evidence to point toward an anti-American sentiment this gal had.
Mrs. Christian, what do you expect when they don't even like or have any respect for their own country. I imagine a lot of them have a bit of a snooty attitude towards the US to begin with. You must be relieved you got out of there long ago seeing as how nutty it's become.
ED Shawn, I remember having my own conversation a couple of days after the attacks with a couple of people about exhibiting patriotism in the light of what happened. I don't have a transcript of the conversation so I don't remember the exact words but one of the persons did not feel swayed in the slightest toward any sort of patriotic sentiment or displays of patriotism. Pretty sad.
Jo Vo Aha, seems I misunderstood you. Well, in that case your gal is fucked up!
This was by far the best video I've seen on the topic. Everything was so truthfully, accurately and eloquently relayed. Loved it!
I am an antifeminst myself and it is refreshing to hear this interview.
This is how I feel. She put it into words for me.
I stopped bothering with applying for post-docs and tenure-track positions a couple years ago. I had a solid publication history, amazing recommendations, and my degrees are from ivy league (for my BSc) and a top 10 public university (for my PhD). I saw enough gender and racial based hiring practices to motivate me to leave academia since I'm at such a disadvantage being a white man. I got tired of dealing with it, so I left to pursue other things. Although it wasn't my original plan, I'm not at all dissatisfied with the direction my life has taken. I live a comfortable life and have a great family; my wife is the primary breadwinner since she has a 6-figure tech job and I am a stay-at-home dad who does freelance consulting work to pay for our vacations plus fund and manage our portfolio. I'm not saying all this as a sob story, nor bragging about anything either ... just adding my experience to the dialogue.
You were probably too smart for modern academia anyway
Haha, that statement ("at such a disadvantage being a white man") would anger a lot of feminists. www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47478537
Brian R oh man I am so sorry. That should not have happened to you. Please don't let this crap stand in your way towards success. You earned , not through white privileges or any such nonsense. Face book your story. I will share it. Trust me, push and push harder. Tell the world what has stopped you. Write letters to your leaders starting with the school board. God bless you. Many grammar will appreciate your story.
Brian R I really hope you are happy and as a women your life path sounds great. I am really curious those due to societal stereotypes it is common to believe staying home as a Dad is not a fulfilling life, I was just curious if that is true or if gender roles really could be interchangeable and still result in a happy marriage and fulfilling life for both partners?
Why not just go out and buy whatever you want with your wife's earnings, keep your own earnings for yourself, then run off on a motorcycle with some other hot chick because "wife wasn't home enough and became distant" while mobilizing the state against her to take half her shit and then pay you out for 15 to 20 years? After all, it would be all her fault! Now THAT would be equality :)
God, this woman is amazingly grounded and humble!
These fired professors can teach here in Asia. We need your expertise and thoughts. Please consider moving here to improve our educational system
It's horrible what's happening here, it's sad for the state of education and human rights.
Agree. Please come to Indonesia
As an European who has watched a couple of Jordan Petersons videos I think he and probably the other professors are actually not very competent to teach here. They talk about social issues from the heart, not from the head and they come from America, they have no idea how Europeans actually think and live like, because things are different here. I have often seen American videos including Western Europe into their ideologies. First of all, Western Europe consists of countries that speak different languages and have different cultures from one another that have different policies and governments and aren't even close to how North America is and second North American social problems are our source of entertainment and rarely our own exact problem. I live in Germany and our social problems aren't mainly about race or gender, but about immigrants, terrorists, corona protestors, Nazis, pathetic digitalization, awful transportation system, building sites, lack of kindergardens and doctors and schools that are so old that it wouldn't be surprising if they collapsed. Our professors do get cancelled and fired more often than ever before, but yet so far it had almost always to do with climate change, corona or immigration which is also quite sad.
Janice speaks precisely and articulates her views REALLY well.
I subscribe to her channel and I love this woman! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
lol love your profile name, very fitting! :-)
Studiobrule?
Janice Fiamengo is a great find! She has a reasonable and fair outlook on her positions. Exactly what society needs
Thank God for a voice of reason from a woman. Thanks Janice, and thank you Dave for hosting.
Your pretty epic Mr Rubin, and this woman is an amazing guest. Thank you both
I came here for Dave and now I'm hooked on Janice Fiamengo
It feels so nice to hear women all over the place saying, "Wait a minute, this is wrong". I look up to my grandma, aunts, mother and girlfriend so much as the incredible women they are. I genuinely feel bad for women who do not have a strong and masculine good male role model in their life they look up to themselves. I decided a few months ago, I am no longer going to feel bad for being a white male. If people want to waste their life being upset with me, they can. But I am going to move forward in my life and be a good man in today's society. We simply need more good men and they are so important.
Side note: Should women be required to sign up for the draft? No. As men, we should feel an obligation to protect women and children. If somebody gets offended by that, that's fine. It won't change my stance of believing men should always protect women.
Do you believe in equality? Historically child birth was the female equivilent to men going to war. It was dangerous and many died as a result, as in wars. Today child birth is far from as dangerous while large scale wars is likely to remain just as if not more so.
I sympathize with your sentiment of women not going to war, for the simple reason that I cannot imagine the woman I love going to war. Is that any different from what a female would feel about their man though? Im sure it depend alot on the individual differences as some people seem more ready for voilence then do others. But isnt that true for both male and females?
My question to you is, given the presupposition that equaliy of opportunity is the goal for male and females being able to compete and coexist on equal terms. What should females have to do to compensate the fact that males have to live out their lives knowing that they might one day have to forfeit their lives to protect their women?
@@TS-mt6rmGreat question! I don't know everything, but I believe equality of opportunity (by the law) is completely equal. Equality of privilege, however, is not equal. I believe people still have the ability to create their own opportunity instead of wait and hope the government steps in and does something about it. Men and women are biologically different, and both so important to society. All traits in men and women should be celebrated and encouraged. Women are capable, and so are men. I would rather judge somebody on their character and values rather than their gender and skin tone.
@@beauruns Im with you all the way on the things you have listed in your reply. I just dont see how thats consistent with equality before the law. If a woman is able to defend her country and the country needs her it should be her duty as it is a mans duty. Anything less and its unequality.
@@TS-mt6rm If women want to sign up for the draft, I believe they have the right to do so. However, do you think women should be required to sign up for the draft? I don't think so. I don't see this as being "unequal". Because I still believe men should feel a moral obligation to protect the women of our country, which is something that has been so lost. I can see the argument in the sense where a draft needs more than all boys between 18-26, but that will never happen. Even then, I would rather go off to war at 30 than a young woman getting drafted. Not meaning she wouldn't be able to, as many women are more than capable, but from the sense of men feeling a responsibility to protect out mothers, daughters, girlfriends, wives, sisters and friends. All to say, you bring up good provoking thoughts. I just believe we should celebrate differences in genders, while also giving all opportunity with open arms if one chooses that path.
@@TS-mt6rm Also, just to add. You bring up very good points. At the end of the day, I am not going to look at women and think I am being treated more unfair than them when I see the incredible work they do.
Bravo to this woman.she is now probably on an “endangered professors” list. I am Canadian and ashamed of my country in recent years because of our present Government leadership. There is no honour in our Government, and a lot of lies.
Has absolutely nothing to do with anything, but this woman is just incredibly beautiful. Especially when she smiles.
Oh and she's actually making intelligent points.
Penniless Writer I know right? A vagina AND a brain. Wow.
@@charliechaplin7959 So, thanks for agreeing, first of all. Now, I'm pretty sure that last part is sarcasm (though it is the internet so who knows). What I can't tell is what point you are making with it. I started to write out all the ways that could be interpreted, but there's just so many that I gave up. Could you clarify what your point was, please?
Penniless Writer Sure. I was just being a sarcastic asshole. Hope that helps.
just my two cents, you're right she is extremely attractive
She seems very grounded. I admire her a lot.
I am a huge UA-cam viewer watching all the time, yet I rarely comment.
You made me with this, great conversation.
I have watched probably at least about 2,000 hours of UA-cam videos in my lifetime and this is one of the best hours I have ever seen. Supremely useful. Thanks!
What to me is most interesting and awful about the idea that men have to spend every waking moment caring and sacrificing for others is that it has always been that way, but the attitude towards it has changed.
Men, for various and sundry reasons, have historically and typically been valued for what they DO rather than who they ARE. They are the providers and protectors, and failure to do those things is failure at being a man (which is also why attacks on make productivity are the default... Fat, virgin neckbeards living in their parents' basement). Disposibility has always been the default attitude towards men. Men have traditionally navigated this by ennobling it as something heroic. Growth into taking on these responsibilities was a hero's journey into maturity.
But in today's politics, the aspect of heroism has been removed. The idea of male disposability still exists, the idea that men are only good for what they can do, but we've denied that there is anything noble or heroic about it. Now it's validated by a belief that any given man should silently bear the punishment for the historic "privilege" of all men... A life of menial, unrewarded desperation for which you are held in perpetual contempt. Unsurprisingly, fewer and fewer men are enthusiastic about this whole idea.
No wonder that Peterson is getting famous. He's offering up that narrative of ennobling, heroic male responsibility that makes life as a man even remotely bearable.
@Dreamboat MacGillicutty I think this is why a Christian world view is meaningful. God created man to have dominion over the earth and all living creatures. Woman were created as a coequal working along side man caring for family and the responsibilities of community. I think these roles such as they are are useful in defining the way we operate in society. Their will always be exceptions to this of course. Your point about having ownership and responsibility over one's domain is hugely important because that's what the man is fighting for. He's fighting for the survival of himself as well as his family and their should be reverence for that role just as women are care takers and nurturers. She is essentially the glue to the family unit. Loved reading your post. Makes some good observations.
@Dreamboat MacGillicutty Maybe coequal is the wrong term. I was trying to convey that we equally have value within our perspective roles.
@Dreamboat MacGillicutty What do you mean by authority? Seems to me that one is incapable of being responsible for something over which they have no authority. And having authority is not necessarily the ultimate incentive, though it could be for some. The benefit of taking responsibility is to give life meaning. If you don't take responsibility, what is life about? It definitely doesn't apply only to men, either--not saying you claimed that was/is the case.
Why on earth should the value of a man be determined by what he provides others? Why can't a man be judged on the life he builds for himself, for the qualities of his intellect and the achievements he strives for rather than simply as a never-ending wallet for someone else? I find this aspect of Peterson inherently enfeebling for men, the insistence that you can only be valued by others for what you provide for them, instead of for being the type of man that you yourself can respect
@@AeneasGemini I didn't say it was good, just that it has been the historic and traditional attitude towards men. One could get deeper into why - harnessing male power and ambition so it doesn't turn pathological and violent, for example - but my point was that the idea of male disposability is nothing new.
Best Rubin Report ever! Have her back again, Dave!
This woman deserves to be praised
I like this smart lady...I could listen to her for hours.. her discussion are always well balanced and logical
Very interesting. Two things saved her, her upbringing and love of literature. The foundation of a conservative two parent family is so sorely looked over. Also, if you read you can think deeper, and if you read rather than listen to pop
culture, so much better life.
When she was talking about how feminists want to rewrite history and then she started talking about how people were saying all the laws are named after men I almost lost brain 🧠 cells. They’re simply named after the person who makes the discovery. How can any rational scientist advocate for naming a law after someone who didn’t even come up with the idea.
I feel so sorry for the world my kids are going to grow up in 🤦🏿♂️
Can't expect much more from a society where the leaders decide to change the name of "French" fries to "Freedom" fries. Stupid is as Stupid does.
@Lloyd Braun I know what you mean. I have recommended to my four sons that they never get married. Having said this, if they find a girl who can walk on water, I reserve the right to change my mind.
:-B Just how bad are your kids that the world should be fearful???
winston cormie I don’t like these statements because my mom is a woman and even now, as a grown man, I haven’t discovered anything bad about her. Nothing. She doesn’t even like to swear! She’s literally just a hard worker who took care of her kids...
Teach your kids their worth not to look down on love.
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Holy crap! A mainstream conversation that included a fracking accurate description of what MGTOW is! I fracking love that woman!
Janice is a very intelligent and brave woman. I suggest to Dave that she is invited again for a second conversation.
To hear this from a woman is probably the single, most soothing and moving thing I've experienced in years. Thank you, 'Teach', for being an honest, critical thinker and for demonstrating such genuine feminine strength. This is the kind of wonan men like me want to love.
As a non-tenured professor at the UofT, I confirm that I would think twice before saying anything that could even potentially aggravate our thought police. I fully support what Jordan Peterson is doing, but simply cannot risk being fired. I have kids to feed. I know this is far from ideal, but alas I am not the bravest person out there...
You are a coward and part of the problem.
Honesty is a form of bravery, but excuses are not.. Grain of salt professor dude
Unfortunately, you are correct. I don't deny that. I also know that there are many in my same predicament. There are many who are afraid to put their foot wrong, simply because they are not as articulate or as educated in political topics as Jordan. The system is not forgiving - any slightest tint on one's image will almost certainly disqualify that person if they apply for a job. Personally, I am waiting for my tenure to become vocal. At least with a tenure, it will be much harder for the system to get rid of me. And that's the risk that I will take; for now, it's all about providing for my family. Your point still holds though...
Agree
jbs197906 you should have picked a different job...you don't seem intellectually qualified.to be in higher education.
Go Janice!!
The Plague of Politically Correct Fascism
“I had a good friend, a sweet elderly gentleman who was unabashedly gay, and he passed away several years ago. He used to denounce gay marriage in the most vicious manner and, so one day, I asked him what inspired such strong sentiments. He responded, “Honey, I can’t stand religions since most seem to have issues with those of my kind...and I can not fathom why any gay person would embrace any institution such as marriage that is a religious sacrament. In doing so, they only succeed in offending the religious majority and creating even more hatred against my kind. It just makes no sense!” Today, my gay friend would be unable to voice openly such a contrarian opinion since, within a society under thrall of politically correct fascists, aka, neo-McCarthyites, such a sentiment would be deemed to be a “hate crime.” Until the politically correct fascists are removed from their positions of power in our society, particularly within the academe and Big Media, then the suppression of free speech will continue and everybody will be compelled to walk upon eggshells, no matter what their race, religion, or sexual preference.”
_________________ Catman Cohen, 2017
Janice is so important for the fight against the cult of feminism.
Brilliant interview, thank you for bringing on this amazing woman with so much intelligence and integrity 👍
These Canadians are intelligent, brave and tenacious. You have my complete respect!
Thank you, great video.
Professor Fiamengo is doing a lot of good in the world. 😘
Thank you for inviting Janice Fiamengo to speak, and for letting her do so.
Janice is wonderful to listen to, she also has a quiet sexiness about her, she floats my boat....Great hair also.
I thought it was just me! I bet she turned some heads growing.
Her hair is a magical mystery.
Guys some respect she is married. That hair though 🤔
@@StepheneMacharia Don't come in here white Knighting for this woman. She doesn't need you. I guarantee Janice would love to read a few comments from young men saying she has nice hair or is good looking. Who are you to dictate what "respect" is??
I literally subbed to her channel last week.
Uh, me too? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Russia?
Being an English professor, I am certain she will appreciate your literality.
I've been following her since Episode 1 of the Fiamengo Files. She's great.
your literally literally bugged me too.
@@SBCBears I actually discovered it last week
Damnit, Janice, I love you.
Now, I wonder how many readers got that. ;-)
Oh Brad I’m so mad!
what a lovely lady and intelligent speaker
Intellectual Goddess, thank heavens for her and Paglia and Hoff Sommers, voices of reason amidst the Feminist bulls**t hurricane.
This is amazing. Listening to this was like hearing myself. I am an alumni of UoSaskatchewan in the 70s and felt the Leftist indoctrination then. My daughter just graduated from UofS Vet Medicine in a class of 79 with only 11 men in her class. She had several very shocking, hateful, experiences of anti-conservative attacks from both classmate and worse, even from the Professors.
The UofS has turned every faculty, every program over to Indigenous studies, based upon the idea that White colonialism has stolen their culture and so it must now replace our White British/French history with Indigenous history. I have written to the President of the University and copied the Dean of VetMed to express my concerns. I have taken it a step further. I've been a consistent donor to the University over the last 20 years. I have withdrawn my donations and removed the University of Sask, & Uof Alberta too, from my Estate Trust fund.
She is beautiful!
The best thing is as an emotionally healthy woman she would regard your comment with mild understanding and bemusement. With at least a basic understanding of men, she could see it for the sign of mild admiration that it is.
This interview was eye opening - I did not know that even some men from the early era did not have the right to vote. Her simple conversation breathes sense into a lot of social issues that are currently in public discourse. It diagnoses and offers facts backed up with consistent and real world examples time after time. I truly respect her courage and her intellect. We need more professors like her. It was highly instructive and a pleasure to listen to you Prof. Fiamengo.