I just realized Frances must have met her father through these videos, watching them endless times as she grew up to figure who her dad really was. It must be so heart breaking for her to see herself as a baby and not remember anything. So confusing to see a loving, goofy father that later decided to exit her life and his own. To share these intimate moments with the world must be agony. Frances is a very strong, cool individual. Full respect.
UA-cam Jurys, I actually feel for Courtney she had an awful upbringing and then in her one moment of happiness she was accused of murder; I don't believe she had him killed they were in love, he always spoke in her defence and the divorce theory came after he had attempted suicide and was using up to 5 grams of brown a day, she's very troubled but a murderer, I highly doubt it.
It's pretty obvious that Kurt loved Frances with all himself, especially because he lived a pretty fucked up childhood/teenage years so he wanted to give her all the love and attention he missed. I'm definitely convinced that he wanted to take Frances with him after the divorce with Courtney. Poor Kurt, he was not a saint and had many problems, no doubt, but he had also a good and genuine soul. If he was really killed i hope he Will have justice. R.I.P. dude.
Couldn't have said it better. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if Kurt killed himself or someone else killed him. The only thing we know for sure is that we lost a genuine and good hearted guy with way too much talent. Not just that but Frances lost a great father and that makes it even more sad.
@@GreenPilz imo thinking that it doesn't matter it's not a good thing. Frances developed certain type of feelings towards Kurt knowing that he killed himself. I'm sure these feelings would change if one day it Will 100% proved that Kurt was killed. Anyway i agree with you that all this is so sad for her.
@@manuredrum4754 so what, you think if someone murdered him she would be better or feel better? i think that would be even more devastating, dunno. anywho, may he Rest in Peace and may Frances be in Peace too. cheers
@@manuredrum4754 oh ffs i'm not arguing about the suffering of knowing neither of those 2 scenarios, you're missing the point. you assuming she would be better if he was killed is just naive. how would you know. "oh, someone took my father's life and by this time he is out of prison enjoying life, such happiness i feel!" assuming the killer would be discovered. both possibilities are just horrible. feeding consporacy theories doesn't help anybody
my father was a junkie but had a great heart. everyone who knew him tells me about how much he loved nirvana. looking at kurt is like looking at my father’s past. i can’t really explain it but im in tears
@@pilkington9293 its not about my negativity that they were not fit for parenting with the drug habits they had. They had a good moment and wanted it on tape - maybe genuinely for the sake of the child. Most likely they were not like that most of the time with her. Addiction is selfish, that just comes with the territory.
people don't get over depression and chronic pain just because they loved their daughter. kurt said so many different times that he was depressed and suicidal, and he was a junkie. when ur a junkie you can handle more drugs every single time, it's not rocket science understanding how someone could do something so simple as pulling a trigger while fucked up.
@@wesleyvane54 Are you serious. Kurt had been to dozens of doctors about it but found "peace" with heroin. He had HORRIBLE stomach issues. He even confirmed him going to a doctor about it on tape in bed next to a bucket of his own puke. Ummm...
People need to stop saying “look how much he loved Frances, he couldn’t have killed himself!”, they need to shut up seriously. I lost my father to suicide and you are basically saying to people like me that if my dad did that, he couldn’t have loved me? Plus people saying he seemed so happy in his final days; this is stupidly common with suicide victims as well. . Everyone said the same thing about my Dad in his final days, as well as my ex boyfriend who died the same way. It’s because they are at peace, they know the end is coming and they feel comfortable and okay. Rather than acting like you know everything, about somebody you’ve never even met, why not speak to some real suicide survivors themselves to hear their experiences???
Yep. I lost my dad to suicide ( gas in the car ) when I was 10. My brother when I was 24 ( deliberate Heroin OD) . Both loved me and my mum more than anything but depression was destroying their minds . Every photo I have they are smiling and happy. Very easy to hide .
Kurt clearly adored and unconditionally loved Frances, its so obvious in these heart-warming home tapes that he thought the world of her, you could see his eyes light up. It's devastating that he never got to watch his little girl grow up into the beautiful young woman she is today. I legit cried so hard through all of that.
Everyone seems to blame Courtney (I understand why tho) but Kurt was also wrong. He should've stopped taking drugs when Courtney was pregnant and told her not to do drugs either. They were both addicts
They were both addicts and didn’t make good choices. It doesn’t make sense why people get mad at her, people act like Kurt was naive idiot and doesn’t know what to do in relationships. He was a grown man and she was a grown woman trying to take care of their child despite all their personal issues.
Addicts is a word I do not like. They used substances to disconnect from their feelings because of the gaping hole left in their soul from having a shitty childhood with a lot of horrific abuse plus psychological plus emotional abuse from their parents cheers all the best plus parents probably used also too cheers
Yes, absolutely and I don't really understand how you would not just quit that. In my case it was just weed but I also stopped that. And I go that far to say I was addicted as well and couldn't sleep sometimes. But I hated the feeling when I smoked and my daughter woke up and played, cared, cheered her while being high. So, that feeling should be even stronger on heroin. And if you love your daughter, it should not be that hard. Because you organize your day in whole new then if you care to show her the world. So sad that they were surrounded by the wrong people.
@@alyssananorini5401 It was the other way round, actually. Kurt had been using on and off for years prior to their meeting. She had kicked the habit only to relapse when Kurt began his heavy heroin use - of his own volition. He admits as much in his own diaries.
I don’t know how anyone can he say he was a bad dad. He was such a sweet and genuine guy I mean I burst into tears just watching those clips like just the way he looks at her and holds her just breaks my heart knowing that he’s gone 🥺❤️
you are already a irresponsible father or mother taking drugs an making a baby and don*t stop it before or after its birth!!! It should be forbidden to allow junkies having a child.
People can say he was a 'bad' dad because he was a heroin addict who shot himself when his kid was a baby. He wasn't really 'bad' - he was a mix, like everyone is, and clearly going through some mental illness and addiction issues.
Kurt was a great father, my dad when I was born left saying that he was going just to buy cigarrettes, 14 years later he didn't even came to see me all grown up
Kurt and Frances have such similar eyes, and, God, it's heartbreaking. I think there's a photo of him holding up a kitten to Frances, compiled with other notes attached to a photoboard, by Courtney, one of which reads that they had "a beautiful baby girl, with crystal blue eyes, like her beautiful daddy,". And, ugh. Kill me.
Kurt always said that the best high he EVER felt was having his baby and having her in his arms was better than having heroin in his veins. Being a long-term heroin and methadone addict myself, I know the hold the shit has over you and how deep those hooks sink in BUT not every addict puts their fix before their loved ones. I'll go without food myself for a hit but my animals NEVER go hungry. There's a difference between a junkie and an addict and us addicts still hold love and empathy for those we hold close to our hearts. I wish Kurt had known how special he was..how he deserved SOOOO much better in life. Heroin doesn't discriminate and taking Kurt and Layne from us shows how it can make the greatest/brightest Soul into a shell of their former selves. Hollow and powerless. R.I.P to all the troubled Souls befallen by the downward spiral 💜
My dad is a shitty one, messed up and all. And this is gold. Real, pure joy to watch. It’s about convincing myself there’s better somewhere. There is. Thank you forever.
@@birdisthezv did you live with him? No she did. He fucking killed himself because he couldnt handle all the fame. Why is it always the women that get with a famous rockstar shes seen as "a peice of shit". Youll happily defend sid vicious and say he didnt kill nancy when he clearly did. They were at eachothers throats as well as kurt and courtney. They werent angels. They were fucked up druggies in a small house looking after a child with people like you giving his wife a hard time. If you care about kurt so much listen to his fucking music and be glad hes at peace instead of slating his wife when hes dead. He chose her for a reason. They were both a pair of messes. Are you really a Nirvana fan if you pull the "she ruined his life card she did this she did that"? He was on heroin mate, along that he had terrible mood swings and a bad past. They were both dicks to eachother. Stop sucking his bumhole just becaause hes dead.
Stop making out she was worse than him they were both junkies. No one is worse when theres two junkies in a relationship. Shut the fuck up about this bullshit. If hes that much of a legend and youre a big fan as you claim you are listen to his fucking music and call him a legend there instead of slating a dead mans wife.
*Courtney in 1992:* _"I used H until I found out I was pregnant, then stopped."_ *Courtney here:* _"I was told the baby was gonna be okay & I knew I was using it again the moment the baby was out of my body."_ *Everybody:* _"OMG, she's finally admitting she took H while pregnant."_ What? lol
None of that excuses her threatening on lynn herschbergs life and blaming her for Frances being removed. By yours and Courtney’s statements we can now assume that baby was removed for a reason and that had nothing to do with vanity fair. She was straight back on drugs, end of.
@@maryshelley3204 Kurt was the one who OD just after the baby was born. So yes, Frances was taken because daddy was a confirmed and helpless junk ie. At least mommy took a few months until she was back on candy. She waited until the inquiry was over. Kurt on the other hand never stopped during the custody drama... What's your point? That the Cobain residence was an awful place to raise a child? Then we agree.
@@julesvan No she did not wait. Have read an interview with some sort of AR dude who met them in Roskilde (Denmark June 92). He and his colleagues were pretty shocked that Courtney appeared so obviously high. Also her excuses back then sounded pretty lame.
I think so. There's an interview where Courtney talks about feeling really guilty because during the intervention, in an effort to get him to see that he had to stop using, she told him how he had dropped the baby while high. I don't think he felt capable of giving up, and he couldn't bear to let his daughter down.
I think that I will never get over his death. He ain't the saint but he loved Frances with all off his heart. I have nothing but respect and love for this man. I always had and I always will.
They loved each other so much. She’s even said that he never yelled at her and she only snapped at him once due to his addiction. It’s so heartbreaking.
My husband and i had the same situation, at this time methadone was not availible in our country I managend to quit, my husband promised he would do too. He betrayed me a couple of times and at one time i could'nt resist too. It was a relieve when i finally could put it all on the table as our son was growing older.
I think it really helped Kurt, having a child. It helped him through everything going on and I’m happy that he was happy with Courtney and frances (for a while)
m!scha he wouldn’t have been as much of a junkie as he was if he didn’t meet Courtney. He had done heroin before he met her but wasn’t a frequent user/ addicted
I really don’t think he would’ve killed himself. As soon as he starts to be happy again he ends it all? Nah. And in interviews his friends and FAMILY even said he wasn’t suicidal
@@adamlambertforeva say what now?? Courtney had him murdered before he could divorce her, thus taking his money fame and child...but what do you mean?? I think you're reaching pretty far but still I am curious to hear more
Kurt and Courtney's child looked so cute as a baby, its a shame kurt isn't alive still... RIP Kurt Cobain 😢😇 The heroin never changed kurt cobain as a person, it gave the image that he was not a good man. But he truly was a nice guy! Edit: with the music its so sad, and beautiful. Why must we loose such beautiful people, even rockstars have a gentle side when they have something so great as a child. 🙄
How do you know the heroin never changed him?? It probably changed him a lot as a person , put him more on a downward spiral . It happens to drug addicts all over the world unfortunately ,some who are fighting chronic depression and use drugs to escape . Most aren't as lucky as Cobain to manage to get record deal and be in a rock band . So unless you knew him personally you have absolutely no right to say heroin never changed him .. because it will have done !!
@@paulthomson9709 they have no right to say what? just like you have no right to tell a random person on the internet not to say what's on their mind??
That text that comes up and says "I will fight to my death to keep the right to provide for my child ... " is that Kurt making that statement ? If it is, it sounds like he had every reason to keep going..
Typical that she tries to shift blame onto Kurt because she took smack throughout her pregnancy..watch the scene in Montage of Heck when she climbs on Kurt's back and lifts her dress up to show her very pregnant belly. She's obviously smacked out of her mind at the time.
May Knott no she didn’t take it throughout the pregnancy it was when she didn’t know and stopped when she found out. Frances was more not addicted to drugs. I don’t know if you were alive at that time but it was clarified.
@@doreensika837 Yes, I was an adult when they had Frances and was a hardcore Hole fan as well as being a Nirvana fan. You might take Courtney's word that she stopped taking heroin when she found out she was pregnant but I don't. Have you read the Vanity Fair article from '92 where Courtney states her and Kurt scored smack before SNL in Jan '92 and she took heroin "for a few months after that". Those were her words. She never sued because the author had taped the interview so had concrete proof, otherwise they would've sued. A few months after Jan takes us to April at least when she would've been 5 months pregnant. Frances was born addicted to methadone and had to detox from that. I've done my research-have you?
This fucking melts my heart but every time I see him with Frances I can't help but think how unfair it is that she didn't get to have him in her life and I can't imagine what it's like for her seeing stuff like this, seeing herself in his arms having no actual memory of it Idk..I don't wanna speak for her cause Idk her but yeah..
The fact that he said he is much more capable of showing love than his dad broke my heart. Because it didn't happen.It is the cold truth but i hope frances knew that she was loved by so many people but most importantly kurt loved her even though he wasn't around to show her.
0:21 Even though we’ve been told the Child Protective Services called to see how things were because of the Vanity Fair article, I have a feeling Frances was taken from their custody because Courtney was using when they visited. If they had called and she was clean and functional, they wouldn’t have taken the baby! What she says here proves that she went back straight away on dope. Yet to this day, she blames Lynn Hirschberg pretty much 95% for Kurt’s death which is disgusting!!
god when courtney is holding the baby at the end, the poor kids head nearly comes off its sholder at one point for crying out loud! This woman is an awful creature and i believe she got Kurt killed. There is lots of evidence to support this... if anyone is even interested u should watch the documentary called " Soacked in bleach" its so good!
I thought that. She was so rough with the baby. Apparently she's psychotic. She doesn't have the empathy part of her brain switched on. She also stabbed a kid at her school.... Frances is estranged from Courtney up until 2019, or maybe still, Frances didn't like Courtney either! 😛
@@leecevictoria481 Well that is a load of bullshit. Frances lifted that estranged shit years ago. They have been on good terms for years. Do your research and stop spreading your crap around.
Awwww what a beautiful happy content baby. I've seen babies born from junkies and the first 6 months are awful for them. They get sick. They're restless. Can't keep their milk down. It's absolutely the lowest of the low using whilst pregnant. . Hopefully from looking at this it didn't affect the baby as she probably stopped using because I did hear her say as soon as that baby was out I was going to shoot up to celebrate.. Drug addicts say that when they haven't been using and they fantasize about the day (after the baby born in this case) they can use again.. But who knows.. I'm just glad the baby looks happy and well loved as I can't stand seeing children in pain.
all the people in the comments judging Courtney for this or that make me sick... both Kurt and her were addicts, period. there's no way to make one seem nicer, better, bigger or *insert adjective here* than the other. they were both young people coping unhealthily with what was happening around them. sure, it's easy to favor one person over the other, especially when popular culture has already decided who will be glorified and who will be vilified. but don't forget that most of the coverage on Nirvana, Hole and both of their private lives were incredibly exploitative and sometimes bordered on hearsay.
It’s horrific the way she is treated and the allegations thrown at her. Why people have to pin blame when it was an all around unfortunate and fucked up situation I do not know. People love to have narratives to follow and push though I guess
Beyond me how courtney let frances go down the drug rabbit hole..if kurt was alive that would have never happened, even if she had strayed down that lane he would have actually INSTANTLY done something about it
They both had to deal with bad parenting, they would have never wanted the same to effect their child, they both loved her. I hope she too knows that and loves them both back the same way.
Omfreakinggod he was such a great daddy to Frances, he would have never kill himself, ever, look at him, my god, what a precious Love he gave her, she ment Everything to him. KURT was a FATHER with capital letters, father is only a name, here we can see HIS ACTIONS showing what a real FATHER is..Beautiful soul, man, human being.So sad they took you away from this Earth and from Her, now you sleep kc and take care of her from the Beautiful place ur at... Her Guardian angel #Justiceforkc #Ripbeautifulsoul #Respect
Melina /music is my life helps to heal yeah thats true and it’s pretty easy to solve the mystery...why? It’s because when KC body examined they found out different kinds of drugs struck to his veins and for me its simple how can you put a big shot gun into your mouth and then pull a trigger if you got 20 different kinds of drugs into your brain or body? Right? Mean you cannot even walk or straight if you just take an alchohol how much more you take drugs so somebody killed CK....i knew it......and they wait till KC got home from rehab then grab him and that’s it...how sad to imagine they even pushes KC to write a suicide note to his daughter.....🎸😵RIP KC
@@twistedfaith6371 Absolutely! That's exactly right 👍 there's no fucking way he had that amount of Dope inside his body and also be able to "oh, ok, o shot up a massive amount of Heroin to kill 4 horse's, but I feel great, diligent, and I can go right ahead now grave the shotgun, load it, then place it nicely between my ankles set up straight, and then pull the trigger on myself" that sounds SO ACCURATE. Dude even taking 3 5mg Oxycodone pills ur numb as fuck. Hope they can finally get the bastard and I hope he suffer the rest of his/her remaining life #Justice4KC #Missyou #Ripbeautifulsoul
Don't agree, he was a junkie and he had a fucked up life on it with his wife. Both ju kies. When she was born they were off a little while and then get hooked again on smack. That issue on "he would never leave his daughter" doesn't count for me, he was on a downward spiral, and everybody close to him knew that. By 1994 he was totally fucked, and don't think that his own daughter is lying or Kurt's friends to protect Courtney Love. What i think is that C. Love had a lot to do on fucking with his mind and with his downfall, 100%. Not believe in the conspiracy criminal plot thing here. I watched all the documentaries, by the way. The amount of heroin on his body was way out of proportion by the leeches who liked to write books to earn money and dark publicity, leeches that doesn't give a shit about Kurt's music and art. There´s examples on people with that amount heroin who can do stuff, it all depends on the drug habit and the tolerance level of the person. I read about it. Anyway, people can think what they want. We have the music, his influence and that's was really matters.
In the beggining there is a title HOOKED. But Frances had metadone in her body. It means Cortney at least tried to take substitution. That is complete different if the toxi showed up other opioid. Methadone is good option for pregnant. And they should get Frances to opium tinkture and slowly taper down. Horrible to imagine the medical stuff let the baby suffer without help. The quicest way was not the best at all
Gosh, he loved her so much... What on earth could have driven him to take his own life and leave his precious daughter? He must have been in mental agony for that to seem like the best option to him..
Reading through some of these nasty, insulting comments about Kurt really pisses me off. He was NOT suicidal and never would have intentionally left Frances. The whole being suicidal crap was made up by Courtney and yes she did have him killed. Maybe people should actually take the time to look into things properly, Kurt had adhd, I noticed this the first time I actually watched an interview with him as I saw a lot of myself in him. I’ve had an interest in death since a child, I have my down times etc.. but that doesn’t make me suicidal. There are so many fucked up things surrounding his death and the weeks leading up to it. Courtney made Kurt out to be this severely depressed, suicidal junkie who had no friends and couldn’t cope on his own, it’s disgusting what she put him through while they were together, just because you read about a few stories or watch a few videos where they seem happy doesn’t mean they always were. And Courtney is far from a nice person, have a look at what her other ex’s have had to say, she’s a violent nutcase who won’t think twice about hurting anyone who doesn’t play buy her rules, or do what she wants. She’s currently involved in a court case where she conspired to have Frances ex husband kidnapped and murdered. She had him killed for his money, he was going to divorce her and change his will. Try watching soaked in bleach, reading up on cobaincase.com look up as much as you can find and you’ll see things differently. Anyway I’ve liked Nirvana for years but it wasn’t until last year I looked into Kurt’s death after not being able to stop a voice in my head saying ‘he didn’t kill himself’ every time I played their songs and I’ve always had a bad feeling about Courtney.
honestly i think people that say that courtney brought out the worst of him ,and if it wasn’t for her, he would’ve still been here are right...but oh well, i think we all can agree that he wouldn’t want anyone to judge and give his opinion on his private life😌
How do you know Courtney brought the worst out in him she brought out the best ! she gave him a child his lifestyle and/or associates killed him...These people were in love, at one point, ..No one forced Kurt to be with Courtney....
Purple Sunflower I(and also probably the millions of people who say this) was referring to drug use, which was accentuated for Kurt since Courtney was also a junky, and that is strictly my point of view on all of the controversy surrounding Kurt’s private life. Take it as you wish! Greetings:)
No one makes anyone take drugs people find those that enable them to do so.....I stopped Alcohol therefore do not hang out with alcoholics...When she met Kurt she was not using......
Purple Sunflower I did not say, by any means, that Courtney made Kurt take up dugs, but both Courtney and Kurt were using drugs when they met each other. You can look it up anywhere.
omg what about her? this so one sided....what about him bringing out the worst in her? how can you idolise worship one person treat him like a saint and completly demonise another one? this is so so dumb!
Watching Kurt with Frances melts my heart. It's easy to see how much fatherhood changed him - how keen he was to give Frances the love and opportunities he didn't have growing up and make things better for her. It's so sad that he didn't get to stick around and watch his beautiful daughter growing up. I can't get over how much Frances looks like Kurt. Especially when she smiles and laughs.
Soaked in bleach. I dont understand why the Kurt-case doesnt get re-opened. You can say what you want about it, but it seems to be a murder-case, not suicide. Dont understand why people interested in Kurt, Nirvana, or C Love can think of something else when responding to a related clip. Unless its music.
This is just my opinion but "soaked in bleach" proofs nothing but the fact that T. Grant is still trying to profit off of Kurt and Courtney. I find it really distasteful and sad. I didn't know them but through my own obsession for Nirvana and Hole it's obvious to me that Kurt wasn't some helpless moron that Courtney or anyone else could control.
Okay so I just gonna go and cry now 😢 And, as far as I have seen, he was such a loving and caring dad and he would’ve done everything so his child is happy!
I really enjoyed Montage of Heck, an intimate close up of a very gifted artist and band. Did anyone else spot the similarity between Courtney and Kurts mother?
it is so weird how much i feel that kurt loved the baby more than courtney. his whole life was about her, courtney's whole life was about having a baby to keep kurt because she knew eventually every person who got to know her well enough over time would leave her realizing she was severely mentally ill. having a baby for her was about entrapment and security, for kurt it was the real thing, loving her to pieces, loving her the way he never knew he could love another being. you can see it right here in front of you. and that bullshit about he dropped her is just more of courtney ugly lies. he never would have. it never would have happened except if she lied about it. what a horror. her grandmother didn't like her. her parents didn't like her. say a lot.
I was certain that he was suicidal (may he rest in peace❤) but after watching soaked in bleach I wasn't so sure anymore. I recommend giving it a chance
9000ck stupidest fucking comment he wasn’t like this at all times, you’ve obviously never experienced real depression and on top of that a heroin addiction
@@unicornmagic8610 yes he was depressed but once he got Frances he didnt care about anything else. Do you really think he would leave her like that after talking and writing in his diary about how much he cared about his baby and that he will always be there for her?
Elvira Mihoci yes I do you don’t know what goes through a persons head especially when they are so far down a hole, he probably thought he was doing what was best for her since he couldn’t fight his addiction and they had all given him an intervention.
Yes it's so unlikely that someone who has been struggling with depression and drug abuse for YEARS has killed himself. Someone can look smiley and happy on the outside, but that in NO WAY tells you how that person feels inside.
I just realized Frances must have met her father through these videos, watching them endless times as she grew up to figure who her dad really was. It must be so heart breaking for her to see herself as a baby and not remember anything. So confusing to see a loving, goofy father that later decided to exit her life and his own. To share these intimate moments with the world must be agony. Frances is a very strong, cool individual. Full respect.
220 million dollars in her bank, I think she got pretty lucky. He was a heroin junkie , he would have just let her down either way.
And mom Courtney feeding her lies.
I think he wwas murdured
UA-cam Jurys, I actually feel for Courtney she had an awful upbringing and then in her one moment of happiness she was accused of murder; I don't believe she had him killed they were in love, he always spoke in her defence and the divorce theory came after he had attempted suicide and was using up to 5 grams of brown a day, she's very troubled but a murderer, I highly doubt it.
except from that he didn't excit it himself.
Frances bean is now older than Kurt when he died, now THAT makes me feel old
Glitter japon actually she’s 26. Kurt died at 27.
@@thejackandtomshow2776 frances is 3 months older than kurt was when he died.
Makes me feel young
Yup :/
You know you're right..
"aren't we lucky?" that made me so sad...
I know, and me. 😥 sooo genuine and sincere
It made me cry .
i am fucking crying....
Me too. Heartbreaking it is. He was sooo happy in these vids and evidently shows how he really loved Frances.
It's like he needed confirmation of that...
A father with his baby girl is the most adorable thing in the world.
It definitely is
Yes
Cries in daddy issuses
It is
Not when he’s higher than a kite
It's pretty obvious that Kurt loved Frances with all himself, especially because he lived a pretty fucked up childhood/teenage years so he wanted to give her all the love and attention he missed. I'm definitely convinced that he wanted to take Frances with him after the divorce with Courtney. Poor Kurt, he was not a saint and had many problems, no doubt, but he had also a good and genuine soul. If he was really killed i hope he Will have justice. R.I.P. dude.
Couldn't have said it better. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if Kurt killed himself or someone else killed him. The only thing we know for sure is that we lost a genuine and good hearted guy with way too much talent. Not just that but Frances lost a great father and that makes it even more sad.
@@GreenPilz imo thinking that it doesn't matter it's not a good thing. Frances developed certain type of feelings towards Kurt knowing that he killed himself. I'm sure these feelings would change if one day it Will 100% proved that Kurt was killed.
Anyway i agree with you that all this is so sad for her.
totally agree
@@manuredrum4754 so what, you think if someone murdered him she would be better or feel better? i think that would be even more devastating, dunno. anywho, may he Rest in Peace and may Frances be in Peace too. cheers
@@manuredrum4754 oh ffs i'm not arguing about the suffering of knowing neither of those 2 scenarios, you're missing the point. you assuming she would be better if he was killed is just naive. how would you know. "oh, someone took my father's life and by this time he is out of prison enjoying life, such happiness i feel!" assuming the killer would be discovered. both possibilities are just horrible. feeding consporacy theories doesn't help anybody
my father was a junkie but had a great heart. everyone who knew him tells me about how much he loved nirvana. looking at kurt is like looking at my father’s past. i can’t really explain it but im in tears
binge watching I know how you feel..
What kind of Deja Vu is this? I'm DAMN sure I've read this exact comment before!
mewmewmew 21 ❤️❤️❤️
“Are you getting all this?”
“Yes”
“Awww,aren’t we lucky?”
❤️ They were so happy
Or they wanted proof on tape that they were sometimes a good set of parents.
Sonia S why do you feel the need to make this negative. Jesus 🙄
@@pilkington9293 its not about my negativity that they were not fit for parenting with the drug habits they had. They had a good moment and wanted it on tape - maybe genuinely for the sake of the child. Most likely they were not like that most of the time with her. Addiction is selfish, that just comes with the territory.
@@sonias9722 fun sponge
@@sonias9722 I get what you mean, because they got their daughter taken away from them by social workers for a while due to their drug problems
people don't get over depression and chronic pain just because they loved their daughter. kurt said so many different times that he was depressed and suicidal, and he was a junkie. when ur a junkie you can handle more drugs every single time, it's not rocket science understanding how someone could do something so simple as pulling a trigger while fucked up.
That's a great way to put it. So true
Nice fantasy
Melvins frontman said that Kurt didn't have any stomach problems. He lied about it. It's a really a puzzle to me now.
@@wesleyvane54 Are you serious. Kurt had been to dozens of doctors about it but found "peace" with heroin. He had HORRIBLE stomach issues. He even confirmed him going to a doctor about it on tape in bed next to a bucket of his own puke. Ummm...
@@duckymomolovercandacegertr2115 Your answer is not to me. Your answer is for Melvins frontman. You can google his words about it.
I’m so happy these videos of Kurt exist so his daughter can see how happy she made him and how much he loved her.
Cuffy?
right and also see how she came form two full blown junkies.. must be memorable yeah .. smh
People need to stop saying “look how much he loved Frances, he couldn’t have killed himself!”, they need to shut up seriously. I lost my father to suicide and you are basically saying to people like me that if my dad did that, he couldn’t have loved me?
Plus people saying he seemed so happy in his final days; this is stupidly common with suicide victims as well. . Everyone said the same thing about my Dad in his final days, as well as my ex boyfriend who died the same way. It’s because they are at peace, they know the end is coming and they feel comfortable and okay.
Rather than acting like you know everything, about somebody you’ve never even met, why not speak to some real suicide survivors themselves to hear their experiences???
Yep. I lost my dad to suicide ( gas in the car ) when I was 10. My brother when I was 24 ( deliberate Heroin OD) .
Both loved me and my mum more than anything but depression was destroying their minds .
Every photo I have they are smiling and happy. Very easy to hide .
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Huge respect to you and your late father.This comment deserves for recognition:)
Awww you are so sweet 🥰🥰 no need to respect me though, it just is what happened! You are so sweet though honestly ❤️🥰
Kurt clearly adored and unconditionally loved Frances, its so obvious in these heart-warming home tapes that he thought the world of her, you could see his eyes light up. It's devastating that he never got to watch his little girl grow up into the beautiful young woman she is today.
I legit cried so hard through all of that.
~ditto~
Cette homme adoré sa fille plu que tout ça se voit dans ces vidéos
2:23 melted my heart
"only the good die young"
I Guess Queen is right with that
Sadly, they were right about that... both Freddie and Kurt passed way too soon
@@BatmanMaster777 the good thing is that Legends never die
@@adolfogarza5179 their legacy lives on forever
One by one, only the good die young
You mean billy joel, not queen
Kurt ADORED Frances x
He adored Frances, no doubt about it.
Everyone seems to blame Courtney (I understand why tho) but Kurt was also wrong. He should've stopped taking drugs when Courtney was pregnant and told her not to do drugs either. They were both addicts
Its easy to say to "just stop using drugs", Addiction is a really strong state
They were both addicts and didn’t make good choices. It doesn’t make sense why people get mad at her, people act like Kurt was naive idiot and doesn’t know what to do in relationships. He was a grown man and she was a grown woman trying to take care of their child despite all their personal issues.
Addicts is a word I do not like. They used substances to disconnect from their feelings because of the gaping hole left in their soul from having a shitty childhood with a lot of horrific abuse plus psychological plus emotional abuse from their parents cheers all the best plus parents probably used also too cheers
Yes, absolutely and I don't really understand how you would not just quit that. In my case it was just weed but I also stopped that. And I go that far to say I was addicted as well and couldn't sleep sometimes. But I hated the feeling when I smoked and my daughter woke up and played, cared, cheered her while being high. So, that feeling should be even stronger on heroin. And if you love your daughter, it should not be that hard. Because you organize your day in whole new then if you care to show her the world. So sad that they were surrounded by the wrong people.
Unfortunately not that easy nothing is like smack I’m kinda blessed I can’t have kids and that’s sad xx
"I dont know whats gonna happen in the next few years. It's kind of scary"
-Kurt Cobain
that was a really sad statement...
Kurt seemed like a great dad when he wasn’t high. Shame he had to be a druggie and he
Shaun Greer it was Courtney’s fault for influencing him and getting him hooked
@@alyssananorini5401 It was the other way round, actually. Kurt had been using on and off for years prior to their meeting. She had kicked the habit only to relapse when Kurt began his heavy heroin use - of his own volition. He admits as much in his own diaries.
SisterJanet facts 👌🏽
@@alyssananorini5401 watch the documentary, he started using while he was with his previous girlfriend.
Thing is he WAS high nearly all the time when he was a father. He was a full blown junkie by this point
I don’t know how anyone can he say he was a bad dad. He was such a sweet and genuine guy I mean I burst into tears just watching those clips like just the way he looks at her and holds her just breaks my heart knowing that he’s gone 🥺❤️
you are already a irresponsible father or mother taking drugs an making a baby and don*t stop it before or after its birth!!! It should be forbidden to allow junkies having a child.
@@sentaschulze4135 said the saint & perfect 🙄
People can say he was a 'bad' dad because he was a heroin addict who shot himself when his kid was a baby. He wasn't really 'bad' - he was a mix, like everyone is, and clearly going through some mental illness and addiction issues.
@@kp361he was a human not a saint
@@Ziggy_stardust0 Yes - and not all humans are heroin addicts who shoot themselves leaving behind an infant daughter...did you miss my entire comment?
i really cant believe what happened to him :(
"Kurt wanted to build a family because his fell apart"
Kurt was a great father, my dad when I was born left saying that he was going just to buy cigarrettes, 14 years later he didn't even came to see me all grown up
So sorry-his loss🧡-x
im sorry to hear that but u've to make your life better and better
He even wasn't getting milk for you, poor you
"My father and I are completely different people." KURT COBAIN
4:12 those eyes
Kurt and Frances have such similar eyes, and, God, it's heartbreaking. I think there's a photo of him holding up a kitten to Frances, compiled with other notes attached to a photoboard, by Courtney, one of which reads that they had "a beautiful baby girl, with crystal blue eyes, like her beautiful daddy,". And, ugh. Kill me.
Kurt always said that the best high he EVER felt was having his baby and having her in his arms was better than having heroin in his veins.
Being a long-term heroin and methadone addict myself, I know the hold the shit has over you and how deep those hooks sink in BUT not every addict puts their fix before their loved ones. I'll go without food myself for a hit but my animals NEVER go hungry. There's a difference between a junkie and an addict and us addicts still hold love and empathy for those we hold close to our hearts.
I wish Kurt had known how special he was..how he deserved SOOOO much better in life. Heroin doesn't discriminate and taking Kurt and Layne from us shows how it can make the greatest/brightest Soul into a shell of their former selves. Hollow and powerless. R.I.P to all the troubled Souls befallen by the downward spiral 💜
I hope you feel better now :)
Seeing Kurt spending time with Francis is honestly one of the most heartwarming things I've ever seen
Dude really tried his best towards the end...
My dad is a shitty one, messed up and all. And this is gold. Real, pure joy to watch. It’s about convincing myself there’s better somewhere. There is. Thank you forever.
he loved frances so much.
Kurt didn’t deserve this kinda life at least he got happier at the last moments RIP kurt Donald Cobain
Thank u guys for the support 👍
@r l shut up she's her mother not yours
Yes he did, he didnt deserve that kid
You are honestly the most dumbest person in this comment section.
@@billiebinksxo5145 dumb or not he's probably right
@@birdisthezv did you live with him? No she did. He fucking killed himself because he couldnt handle all the fame. Why is it always the women that get with a famous rockstar shes seen as "a peice of shit". Youll happily defend sid vicious and say he didnt kill nancy when he clearly did. They were at eachothers throats as well as kurt and courtney. They werent angels. They were fucked up druggies in a small house looking after a child with people like you giving his wife a hard time. If you care about kurt so much listen to his fucking music and be glad hes at peace instead of slating his wife when hes dead. He chose her for a reason. They were both a pair of messes. Are you really a Nirvana fan if you pull the "she ruined his life card she did this she did that"? He was on heroin mate, along that he had terrible mood swings and a bad past. They were both dicks to eachother. Stop sucking his bumhole just becaause hes dead.
She talks about him as a junky? She was worst than him. RIP LEGEND
l mean...tecnically they were junkies
They were both junkies. He was also a legend but the truth is what it is and it doesn't make him any less than a legend
In her defence, in the same sentence, she said she was a junky too...
Stop making out she was worse than him they were both junkies. No one is worse when theres two junkies in a relationship. Shut the fuck up about this bullshit. If hes that much of a legend and youre a big fan as you claim you are listen to his fucking music and call him a legend there instead of slating a dead mans wife.
Shut the fuck up she wasn’t worse than him
*Courtney in 1992:* _"I used H until I found out I was pregnant, then stopped."_
*Courtney here:* _"I was told the baby was gonna be okay & I knew I was using it again the moment the baby was out of my body."_
*Everybody:* _"OMG, she's finally admitting she took H while pregnant."_ What? lol
None of that excuses her threatening on lynn herschbergs life and blaming her for Frances being removed. By yours and Courtney’s statements we can now assume that baby was removed for a reason and that had nothing to do with vanity fair. She was straight back on drugs, end of.
@@maryshelley3204 Kurt was the one who OD just after the baby was born. So yes, Frances was taken because daddy was a confirmed and helpless junk ie. At least mommy took a few months until she was back on candy. She waited until the inquiry was over. Kurt on the other hand never stopped during the custody drama... What's your point? That the Cobain residence was an awful place to raise a child? Then we agree.
@@julesvan
No she did not wait. Have read an interview with some sort of AR dude who met them in Roskilde (Denmark June 92). He and his colleagues were pretty shocked that Courtney appeared so obviously high.
Also her excuses back then sounded pretty lame.
The constant hate towards her even till this day needs to end
It will end when justice is served to her
Angami Accent you don’t know for sure what happened
toomuchjunkiebizness 79 agree
@@nicolewynne1212 no he was definitely killed..
Lena Franklin cause you were there yeah
Kurt and baby Frances together is adorable. Made my day. ☺️
He probably killed himself cause he thought he was bad for Frances. Since he couldn't get clean. He was a real junkie.
Yeah, but I still think that he was murdered.
I think so. There's an interview where Courtney talks about feeling really guilty because during the intervention, in an effort to get him to see that he had to stop using, she told him how he had dropped the baby while high. I don't think he felt capable of giving up, and he couldn't bear to let his daughter down.
Either he was killed, or he killed himself bc of this.
@@fionnagrant6636 what?!?!
@@Kuollakseenelossa no there’s a suicide note in his hand writing
I think that I will never get over his death. He ain't the saint but he loved Frances with all off his heart.
I have nothing but respect and love for this man. I always had and I always will.
They loved each other so much. She’s even said that he never yelled at her and she only snapped at him once due to his addiction. It’s so heartbreaking.
Umm don't believe what she says. He wanted a divorce. It was over. Don't think it's romantic being killed by your sicko wife
My husband and i had the same situation, at this time methadone was not availible in our country
I managend to quit, my husband promised he would do too.
He betrayed me a couple of times and at one time i could'nt resist too.
It was a relieve when i finally could put it all on the table as our son was growing older.
I think it really helped Kurt, having a child. It helped him through everything going on and I’m happy that he was happy with Courtney and frances (for a while)
Biggest mistake of his life getting with that woman...
It literally cost his life.
many of his close friends said he would’ve died sooner if he didn’t marry courtney as she tried to get him into rehab. i don’t like her but.
m!scha he wouldn’t have been as much of a junkie as he was if he didn’t meet Courtney. He had done heroin before he met her but wasn’t a frequent user/ addicted
True she ruined him
Joe McKenzie okay
Kurt talking in his baby voice is the cutest fucken thing i've ever heard
3:26 made me cry so bad, omg 😭💔
Clickbait she said one sentence the rest was old footage.
Frances has his eyes❤️
i think kurt would have been the perfect father, he was so playful with frances, i think she would have had a beautiful childhood
Yeah,agreed,but he shot himself
Watching how he loved his daughter makes it even harder to believe that he actually killed himself
he killed himself
Yeah, coz he didn't.
I really don’t think he would’ve killed himself. As soon as he starts to be happy again he ends it all? Nah. And in interviews his friends and FAMILY even said he wasn’t suicidal
Julien Kurtis he was killed by the masses because he threatened the elites agenda ✌🏽
@@adamlambertforeva say what now?? Courtney had him murdered before he could divorce her, thus taking his money fame and child...but what do you mean?? I think you're reaching pretty far but still I am curious to hear more
Gone too soon 🤧😭
Kurt and Courtney's child looked so cute as a baby, its a shame kurt isn't alive still...
RIP Kurt Cobain 😢😇
The heroin never changed kurt cobain as a person, it gave the image that he was not a good man. But he truly was a nice guy!
Edit: with the music its so sad, and beautiful. Why must we loose such beautiful people, even rockstars have a gentle side when they have something so great as a child. 🙄
How do you know the heroin never changed him?? It probably changed him a lot as a person , put him more on a downward spiral . It happens to drug addicts all over the world unfortunately ,some who are fighting chronic depression and use drugs to escape . Most aren't as lucky as Cobain to manage to get record deal and be in a rock band . So unless you knew him personally you have absolutely no right to say heroin never changed him .. because it will have done !!
@anonymous person dont need to know him personally to see how heroin affects people
@@paulthomson9709 they have no right to say what? just like you have no right to tell a random person on the internet not to say what's on their mind??
That text that comes up and says "I will fight to my death to keep the right to provide for my child ... " is that Kurt making that statement ? If it is, it sounds like he had every reason to keep going..
Nirvana n Kurt was powerful beginning to end listening over and over incorporated in me eternally, tnk y Kurt. rip
Typical that she tries to shift blame onto Kurt because she took smack throughout her pregnancy..watch the scene in Montage of Heck when she climbs on Kurt's back and lifts her dress up to show her very pregnant belly. She's obviously smacked out of her mind at the time.
May Knott no she didn’t take it throughout the pregnancy it was when she didn’t know and stopped when she found out. Frances was more not addicted to drugs. I don’t know if you were alive at that time but it was clarified.
@@doreensika837 Yes, I was an adult when they had Frances and was a hardcore Hole fan as well as being a Nirvana fan. You might take Courtney's word that she stopped taking heroin when she found out she was pregnant but I don't. Have you read the Vanity Fair article from '92 where Courtney states her and Kurt scored smack before SNL in Jan '92 and she took heroin "for a few months after that". Those were her words. She never sued because the author had taped the interview so had concrete proof, otherwise they would've sued. A few months after Jan takes us to April at least when she would've been 5 months pregnant. Frances was born addicted to methadone and had to detox from that. I've done my research-have you?
May Knott why "obviously" ?
May Knott, yes girl. I fucking live a fan who knows her facts. 🙏
How ironic that I misspelt 'love' 😂
the videos of kurt genuinely made me cry
4:48 had me like 😂😂😂💀💀💀
I put on Elmo voices for my daughter when she was a baby 😂
frances's speech about nirvana lol
frances seems like the love of kurts life, the videos made me so sad but also happy at the same time
This fucking melts my heart but every time I see him with Frances I can't help but think how unfair it is that she didn't get to have him in her life and I can't imagine what it's like for her seeing stuff like this, seeing herself in his arms having no actual memory of it
Idk..I don't wanna speak for her cause Idk her but yeah..
4:49 I found that so creepy and unsettling. It was like she was just a doll to be played with.
It's actually funny.
Yes I agree, the way she was handling Frances who looks so uncomfortable the whole time, it makes me sick
The fact that he said he is much more capable of showing love than his dad broke my heart. Because it didn't happen.It is the cold truth but i hope frances knew that she was loved by so many people but most importantly kurt loved her even though he wasn't around to show her.
0:21 Even though we’ve been told the Child Protective Services called to see how things were because of the Vanity Fair article, I have a feeling Frances was taken from their custody because Courtney was using when they visited. If they had called and she was clean and functional, they wouldn’t have taken the baby! What she says here proves that she went back straight away on dope. Yet to this day, she blames Lynn Hirschberg pretty much 95% for Kurt’s death which is disgusting!!
oh the absolute denial... there's something seriously wrong with some of you kurt fanboys
god when courtney is holding the baby at the end, the poor kids head nearly comes off its sholder at one point for crying out loud! This woman is an awful creature and i believe she got Kurt killed. There is lots of evidence to support this... if anyone is even interested u should watch the documentary called " Soacked in bleach" its so good!
I thought that.
She was so rough with the baby.
Apparently she's psychotic.
She doesn't have the empathy part of her brain switched on.
She also stabbed a kid at her school....
Frances is estranged from Courtney up until 2019, or maybe still, Frances didn't like Courtney either! 😛
@@leecevictoria481 Well that is a load of bullshit. Frances lifted that estranged shit years ago. They have been on good terms for years. Do your research and stop spreading your crap around.
Awwww what a beautiful happy content baby.
I've seen babies born from junkies and the first 6 months are awful for them. They get sick. They're restless. Can't keep their milk down. It's absolutely the lowest of the low using whilst pregnant. . Hopefully from looking at this it didn't affect the baby as she probably stopped using because I did hear her say as soon as that baby was out I was going to shoot up to celebrate.. Drug addicts say that when they haven't been using and they fantasize about the day (after the baby born in this case) they can use again.. But who knows.. I'm just glad the baby looks happy and well loved as I can't stand seeing children in pain.
Aww god it's so sad he seemed like a real child at heart himself he really adored Frances
I instantly started crying when he was talking all baby with français, i fucking miss him
all the people in the comments judging Courtney for this or that make me sick... both Kurt and her were addicts, period. there's no way to make one seem nicer, better, bigger or *insert adjective here* than the other. they were both young people coping unhealthily with what was happening around them. sure, it's easy to favor one person over the other, especially when popular culture has already decided who will be glorified and who will be vilified. but don't forget that most of the coverage on Nirvana, Hole and both of their private lives were incredibly exploitative and sometimes bordered on hearsay.
THANK YOU, someone who actually makes use of their brain.
Word man
It’s horrific the way she is treated and the allegations thrown at her. Why people have to pin blame when it was an all around unfortunate and fucked up situation I do not know. People love to have narratives to follow and push though I guess
Beyond me how courtney let frances go down the drug rabbit hole..if kurt was alive that would have never happened, even if she had strayed down that lane he would have actually INSTANTLY done something about it
Easy way to control someone.
He was such a kind gentle soul
He always wanted a happy family how could he kill himself after seeing him like this. I dont believe it was suicide
@Gisselle S we are not sheeps,we are just seeing the facts
@@kakashihatake6176 what kind of facts do you even see?
Actually he didn't always want a family
when the home videos started playing i started crying. such a sweet, gentle soul mangled by how awful the world is :(
~same~ 🤧
They are so cute together, we can feel that Kurt loved his daughter so much
They both had to deal with bad parenting, they would have never wanted the same to effect their child, they both loved her. I hope she too knows that and loves them both back the same way.
Omfreakinggod he was such a great daddy to Frances, he would have never kill himself, ever, look at him, my god, what a precious Love he gave her, she ment Everything to him. KURT was a FATHER with capital letters, father is only a name, here we can see HIS ACTIONS showing what a real FATHER is..Beautiful soul, man, human being.So sad they took you away from this Earth and from Her, now you sleep kc and take care of her from the Beautiful place ur at... Her Guardian angel
#Justiceforkc #Ripbeautifulsoul #Respect
Melina /music is my life helps to heal yeah thats true and it’s pretty easy to solve the mystery...why? It’s because when KC body examined they found out different kinds of drugs struck to his veins and for me its simple how can you put a big shot gun into your mouth and then pull a trigger if you got 20 different kinds of drugs into your brain or body? Right? Mean you cannot even walk or straight if you just take an alchohol how much more you take drugs so somebody killed CK....i knew it......and they wait till KC got home from rehab then grab him and that’s it...how sad to imagine they even pushes KC to write a suicide note to his daughter.....🎸😵RIP KC
@@twistedfaith6371 Absolutely! That's exactly right 👍 there's no fucking way he had that amount of Dope inside his body and also be able to "oh, ok, o shot up a massive amount of Heroin to kill 4 horse's, but I feel great, diligent, and I can go right ahead now grave the shotgun, load it, then place it nicely between my ankles set up straight, and then pull the trigger on myself" that sounds SO ACCURATE. Dude even taking 3 5mg Oxycodone pills ur numb as fuck. Hope they can finally get the bastard and I hope he suffer the rest of his/her remaining life
#Justice4KC #Missyou #Ripbeautifulsoul
Don't agree, he was a junkie and he had a fucked up life on it with his wife. Both ju kies. When she was born they were off a little while and then get hooked again on smack. That issue on "he would never leave his daughter" doesn't count for me, he was on a downward spiral, and everybody close to him knew that. By 1994 he was totally fucked, and don't think that his own daughter is lying or Kurt's friends to protect Courtney Love. What i think is that C. Love had a lot to do on fucking with his mind and with his downfall, 100%. Not believe in the conspiracy criminal plot thing here. I watched all the documentaries, by the way. The amount of heroin on his body was way out of proportion by the leeches who liked to write books to earn money and dark publicity, leeches that doesn't give a shit about Kurt's music and art. There´s examples on people with that amount heroin who can do stuff, it all depends on the drug habit and the tolerance level of the person. I read about it. Anyway, people can think what they want. We have the music, his influence and that's was really matters.
oh look we got a genious over here! i think FBI should have hired you!
@@guitarFAIL I think so too! Tysm ❤️
Here is a man who really loved his baby, and who deserved better❤
2:50 whats the name of the song
dUmp
Letter to Frances btw there’s only him playing guitar , no singing
In the beggining there is a title HOOKED. But Frances had metadone in her body. It means Cortney at least tried to take substitution. That is complete different if the toxi showed up other opioid. Methadone is good option for pregnant. And they should get Frances to opium tinkture and slowly taper down. Horrible to imagine the medical stuff let the baby suffer without help. The quicest way was not the best at all
Kurt is my father,fashion,music figure for everything I do
Im so glad these videos exist. Frencis can understand how much she made her dad happy
Gosh, he loved her so much...
What on earth could have driven him to take his own life and leave his precious daughter? He must have been in mental agony for that to seem like the best option to him..
This is so tense, watching them with baby is hard. Watching unstable people around babies is anxiety inducing
Reading through some of these nasty, insulting comments about Kurt really pisses me off. He was NOT suicidal and never would have intentionally left Frances. The whole being suicidal crap was made up by Courtney and yes she did have him killed. Maybe people should actually take the time to look into things properly, Kurt had adhd, I noticed this the first time I actually watched an interview with him as I saw a lot of myself in him. I’ve had an interest in death since a child, I have my down times etc.. but that doesn’t make me suicidal. There are so many fucked up things surrounding his death and the weeks leading up to it. Courtney made Kurt out to be this severely depressed, suicidal junkie who had no friends and couldn’t cope on his own, it’s disgusting what she put him through while they were together, just because you read about a few stories or watch a few videos where they seem happy doesn’t mean they always were. And Courtney is far from a nice person, have a look at what her other ex’s have had to say, she’s a violent nutcase who won’t think twice about hurting anyone who doesn’t play buy her rules, or do what she wants. She’s currently involved in a court case where she conspired to have Frances ex husband kidnapped and murdered. She had him killed for his money, he was going to divorce her and change his will. Try watching soaked in bleach, reading up on cobaincase.com look up as much as you can find and you’ll see things differently. Anyway I’ve liked Nirvana for years but it wasn’t until last year I looked into Kurt’s death after not being able to stop a voice in my head saying ‘he didn’t kill himself’ every time I played their songs and I’ve always had a bad feeling about Courtney.
4:41 kurt was actually very funny, rip kurt
Kurts face at 1:25 😭😭
He loved his daughter and wanted to give his family the love he never had in his childhood
5:12 “It's smells like teen spirit!”
honestly i think people that say that courtney brought out the worst of him ,and if it wasn’t for her, he would’ve still been here are right...but oh well, i think we all can agree that he wouldn’t want anyone to judge and give his opinion on his private life😌
How do you know Courtney brought the worst out in him she brought out the best ! she gave him a child his lifestyle and/or associates killed him...These people were in love, at one point, ..No one forced Kurt to be with Courtney....
Purple Sunflower I(and also probably the millions of people who say this) was referring to drug use, which was accentuated for Kurt since Courtney was also a junky, and that is strictly my point of view on all of the controversy surrounding Kurt’s private life. Take it as you wish! Greetings:)
No one makes anyone take drugs people find those that enable them to do so.....I stopped Alcohol therefore do not hang out with alcoholics...When she met Kurt she was not using......
Purple Sunflower I did not say, by any means, that Courtney made Kurt take up dugs, but both Courtney and Kurt were using drugs when they met each other. You can look it up anywhere.
omg what about her? this so one sided....what about him bringing out the worst in her? how can you idolise worship one person treat him like a saint and completly demonise another one? this is so so dumb!
Watching Kurt with Frances melts my heart. It's easy to see how much fatherhood changed him - how keen he was to give Frances the love and opportunities he didn't have growing up and make things better for her. It's so sad that he didn't get to stick around and watch his beautiful daughter growing up. I can't get over how much Frances looks like Kurt. Especially when she smiles and laughs.
I don't believe a word this woman say.
Same
Soaked in bleach. I dont understand why the Kurt-case doesnt get re-opened. You can say what you want about it, but it seems to be a murder-case, not suicide.
Dont understand why people interested in Kurt, Nirvana, or C Love can think of something else when responding to a related clip. Unless its music.
This is just my opinion but "soaked in bleach" proofs nothing but the fact that T. Grant is still trying to profit off of Kurt and Courtney. I find it really distasteful and sad. I didn't know them but through my own obsession for Nirvana and Hole it's obvious to me that Kurt wasn't some helpless moron that Courtney or anyone else could control.
Kurt was good daddy..
Rip kurt the legend of grunge
Okay so I just gonna go and cry now 😢
And, as far as I have seen, he was such a loving and caring dad and he would’ve done everything so his child is happy!
I really enjoyed Montage of Heck, an intimate close up of a very gifted artist and band.
Did anyone else spot the similarity between Courtney and Kurts mother?
3:29 aww, its so sweet!
3:22 this describes everything. Kurt didnt kill himself, he got killed.
We love you and miss you Kurt, rip.
it is so weird how much i feel that kurt loved the baby more than courtney. his whole life was about her, courtney's whole life was about having a baby to keep kurt because she knew eventually every person who got to know her well enough over time would leave her realizing she was severely mentally ill. having a baby for her was about entrapment and security, for kurt it was the real thing, loving her to pieces, loving her the way he never knew he could love another being. you can see it right here in front of you. and that bullshit about he dropped her is just more of courtney ugly lies. he never would have. it never would have happened except if she lied about it. what a horror. her grandmother didn't like her. her parents didn't like her. say a lot.
I can't actually believe that people still think he committed suicide..... watch the soaked in bleach documentary
i dont cry of movies, this Kurt Cobain videos is the only "movies" that make me cry... Im Not Crying, You Are.
R.I.P Kurt
This is the most wholesome thing ever
Could you please subtitle the things that Courtney said in the first part?
I was certain that he was suicidal (may he rest in peace❤) but after watching soaked in bleach I wasn't so sure anymore. I recommend giving it a chance
anyone know what the song that plays here is called? 0:30
Been a Son maybe
Frances your Dad loved 🥰 you soO much x I’m So Sorry for your loss 🥺😔😞😢
would this sort of person kill himself? I'd say the likelihood is pretty low. His love for his child would have been a strong protective factor.
No way would Kurt have left Frances in the sole care of Courtney. He was an empath and adored his daughter and knew Courtney was a psycho
9000ck stupidest fucking comment he wasn’t like this at all times, you’ve obviously never experienced real depression and on top of that a heroin addiction
@@unicornmagic8610 yes he was depressed but once he got Frances he didnt care about anything else. Do you really think he would leave her like that after talking and writing in his diary about how much he cared about his baby and that he will always be there for her?
Elvira Mihoci yes I do you don’t know what goes through a persons head especially when they are so far down a hole, he probably thought he was doing what was best for her since he couldn’t fight his addiction and they had all given him an intervention.
Yes it's so unlikely that someone who has been struggling with depression and drug abuse for YEARS has killed himself. Someone can look smiley and happy on the outside, but that in NO WAY tells you how that person feels inside.
Lokking at this, what father would kill himself and leave his most beloved daughter behind? I for one don't believe Kurt Cobain did just that.
A lot. A lot of fathers who love their spouse and children kill themselves.
So, stop it with this. Is bs.
@@thatfangirl1145 courtney is a lying bitch so you cant really know