@@Jeff-jg7jh Even in Arizona, I'm considering buying a 4-season teepee tent with screened doors. I honestly want something ultralight that I can put a wood stove in. Being able to heat your tent with wood and cook without going out in the elements is a pretty nice capability to have. As long as you can make it warm and it doesn't leak, a lot of other compromises can be forgiven.
The 15d (green) version has a mesh inner as well. The green and orange tents are designed exactly the same, they just use different materials aside from the mesh.
I tried to find this tent in a version with a warmer/convertible inner tent, without the mesh. No success. It would be an easy upgrade. Really too bad they don't seem to offer it.
I've bought a naturehike 1 person 3 season tent, and have used it frequently for about 3 years. never had anything malfunction so far, and it was dirt-cheap! also, packs light, keeps me dry and works in the winter too.
First problem I see is that he bought the 210T polyester version (8lbs) vice the 20D nylon (6lb green tent). 210T is heavier and less tear resistant at the same thickness as 20D. I live in Wa. St. and I have thoroughly tested this in all of the PNW winter fury and I can say that the 20D version holds up very well in the winter. I had mine set up during heavy rain and wind. I can personally attest that not even using any of the many guy lines she held up perfectly against the wind and no rain came in even from the sides. Second problem is that he doesn’t understand physics. The tri-blade style stakes hold very well! No matter which way you put the stakes down two of the blades will provide resistance from being uprooted and they hold perfectly in high wind rainy conditions. Be smart in the direction you orient your tent. The only issue is they don’t provide enough stakes to use all the guy lines which it has MANY. Third problem is that he didn’t try it in true winter conditions. My wife and I tested this in 20 degree Washington winter with two kelty down 30 degree bags with each of us having a 2.2 R rated sleeping pads. With just our sleeping clothes and a pair of socks on we were perfectly warm. I challenge Luke in the future that when he makes these claims to actually test it in the conditions that he claims it won’t work well in. There are other videos out there of this tent showing it holding up in crazy snowy conditions. Always do your own research and only use others opinions as a guide, not as gospel.
Sorry I'm about a year late with my comment, but I must make an important point. I'm in the UK and have a few Nature Hike tents... It appears that he didn't use ANY guy lines as far as I can tell (?) - Although in good weather or no wind you don't need to put them out, when it rains, you should use the ones attached to the vents !!! The tension produced actually adds 'cover' to the vent opening, enough to stop any water ingress that was occurring. I have not had ANY issues with water entering, EVER (and that has been in some very stormy weather) in Scotland.
Luke. MAN! Every time I decided to look up a product, it's you who pop's up 1st with a review of the product. It's insane. After watching a few different reviews, I always enjoy yours 1st and believe you to be the best and most honest reviewer. Man, Luke, I really appreciate you, Sir. Thank you. God bless you, your daughter and wife. Again, thank you, Sir.
Wow! Pole sleeves! It's 1985 again! Seriously, though, pole sleeves help with tent stability. Hoop tents were the thing back then, for weight savings over dome tents. Then came the Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight, and now clips are the rule, though they get brittle and can break with age, but they can be temporarily replaced with a loop of cord. I actually like that design. Thanks, Luke!👍
Man, I really like the vestibule design on that. My tent is an old MSR Elixir 2, and getting in and out when wearing a soaked jacket in the rain is a bit of a gymnastics exercise. This vestibule is enormous!
ultimately that's true, my EBNS is my year round single person tent, in MN, but I also use an insulated sleep mat, and full MSS + layers. some people use just the full MSS+mat and/or layers on the ground in the winter, so not unheard of.
I once cowboy camped in the Cascades during shirt sleeve weather and woke up submirged in a snowdrift. Somehow my cheapo down bag made a good shelter! To be fair is was extremely dry powder. That was over 40 years ago. What a trip that was.
Maybe, if you'd made the effort to set it up properly, by staking out the vent guyline (provided and attached!), it would not have leaked? I got the feeling you really didn't want to be there and honestly Luke, am not entirely convinced you, in fact, were. The lack of enthusiasm is glaring. I'm actively shopping for a tent in this category right now and found this "review" annoying, at best. No specs, dimensions, details or deniers, but a whole lot of "only one leak", over and over when you, most likely, were responsible for it!
I have this tent… used in in a massive downpour, where it was 3 inches of rain in New Jersey…. No leaks anywhere, it stayed warm in 40 degree temp and it is a tent I would recommend this to anyone…
I do like NatureHike, I've several products from them and they're all durable, budget friendly and doing the job well done. Sure, there's room for improvement, but for the price range that their products costs and the value you get, it's great.
This is a pretty popular brand in the Uk and generally good reviews.....and we do get quite a bit of rain. As you say not a true 4 season tent but could be ok in reasonable 4th season weather (ie no big storms and temps not too low).
I really dislike camping in the rain..... it defeats the whole point (unless you're testing the materials of course). As an older guy, I just prefer clear weather to go out and enjoy my nature hikes and excursions. Bless you for helping know the equipment and what works - what doesn't. We appreciate you !!!
In the UK they sell this tent in green and orange at different prices - the orange is always cheaper. I might have got this wrong but my understanding was that it's the green version only that's supposed to be 4 season.
My two cents: Currently using a NatureHike 3 season and it has held up over the past three years; I use it year round but winters are generally spent in the desert (Negev). Their cheaper tents have zipper problems but the medium to high price stuff is usually very good quality and well thought out.
I’ve quite a bit of experience with both the cloud up 2 and the “cycling” one man tent. Both are not perfect by any means, but they are less than a 1/4 of the cost of “brand” tends. Compromises are everywhere but I’ve yet to get wet in one and yet to have one fail. Given the super low cost of them I can’t really complain. Understand going in that you’re not getting a “high end” tent, but compared to the other offerings out there in the same cost range, I’d call everything I’ve used from nature hike as “well worth it”. Keep in mind though that “four season” means something very different in different parts of the world. Obviously this one isn’t a “snow weather” tent ... but if “winter” in your part of the world is mostly just cooler (25-35F overnight), with low precipitation, then there is no reason this couldn’t be used four seasons “where you live”. (Just use your head and and be safe). As has been said elsewhere though, you can simply look at this and the build materials and tell it’s not made for heavy winter (heavy snow). Going to need to spend a lot more money to get to that point. :)
I have a 4-season tent that is almost exactly the same design. Except that it is a true 4-season. It handled great in the weather. Rain & wind. I’ll be taking it out next week for a true test of snow, freezing rain and high wind.
the Cloud Peak 2 is a great tent. I live in Scotland and its been brilliant. I also noticed that you didnt use all of the stake out points and if you had i wonder if that would have changed the angle of the vent??? Only a thought but maybe worth investigating
Have this exact tent. Had it out a couple of times in very wet conditions and haven't noticed any problems with leaking, but I always put out all the guy ropes. We get quite got and humid weather here, so the ventilation is appreciated. Enough space for mum, dad, kid, dog and a bit of gear.
I bought a very good hammock tent from Naturehike, which I have been using for 5 years, 4 5 times a year, it takes rain but not much wind. I have enjoyed every camping with that hammock
I do have that exact same tent. I pull the line for the vent out and stake it out at a steep angle which allows the line to act as a drip line and helps keep rain from splashing up into the vent.
setting in my home office watching this...listening to the rain hitting the tent and seeing there's a nice dry place to bundle up and bed down in, with that rain pattering in the background...man...it's sleepy time!
I have to say, I'm going to look into this tent for when a weekend in Panama City Beach calls to me. Or Savannah maybe. Thank you Luke, your time, passion and attention to detail while remaining agenda free is a HUGE benefit.
Last year I bought the Naturehike Vik1 and Mongar2 with vestibule. I love both of them. If I'm hiking and weight is an issue I go with the Vik1. If car camping and I want a little extra room for myself, I use the Mongar2. Everything seems well thought out. Color matching on stake points for easier setup. An embedded magnet in the door to manage it better. Its seam sealed. If its rainy, I'd probably prefer the Mongar2 since there's an outer shell. However, I've had no issues with leaks in either. I wish this company would make more tents.
Have had Cloudup 3 for 3 years, the old version - it is quality material. Of course there is some quality issues in some areas like you said but those are smaller ones. The 20D material is pretty easy to get holes, at least I have one in the lower area. It has foot print always included and it is very heavy duty, can take hits.
The loose threads shown are where the thread spools ran out and new spools picked up there. Nothing to be concerned about, although you could cut the loose ends if you wanted. The inner mesh won't hold as much heat, but you're not going to get snow or wind past the outer fly. If anything, that mesh takes care of any condensation issues.
Nice to see naturehike tents being reviewed now by you Luke. I have 4 naturehike tents and the only one I got disappointed in was the Hiby (an old model but I bought it recently) but it was a bit of my fault. I packed the tent to tightly and with camping off the table for a year, the coating from the nylon have cracked as well as the seams. Other naturehike tents I've had, have seen brutal conditions and I trust them all completely to keep me and all my cameras dry.
@@roberttaylor9611 Not at all. You worded it quite plainly and kindly. It was I that feared I would come off snarky. It was not in reference to yours. Sorry for the confusion.
I made this comment further up and have only just read these ones: So am repeating it because it would fit in better here: Sorry I'm about a year late with my comment, but I must make an important point. I'm in the UK and have a few Nature Hike tents... It appears that he didn't use ANY guy lines as far as I can tell (?) - Although in good weather or no wind you don't need to put them out, when it rains, you should use the ones attached to the vents !!! The tension produced actually adds 'cover' to the vent opening, enough to stop any water ingress that was occurring. I have not had ANY issues with water entering, EVER (and that has been in some very stormy weather) in Scotland.
Hey Luke, Nice to see you reviewing NatureHike. I always trust your reviews and your hard work is greatly appreciated. I bought the NatureHike SilentWing 1person text about a year ago for light weight moto camping. Used it once. No issues except the zipper is a little tight, I only used it in summer clear sky weather, fairly warm. Packs small, little vestibule and was a $100 bucks on Amazon. For the price it suited my needs.
Thanks for the review Luke,,, the fastest way too check if a tent is water resistant is a garden hose. If it doesn't pass the hose test We won't use it on the nahanni river trips... Quick easy and fast
I've seen Naturehike tents get some pretty good reviews through some UK based UA-cam channels. I looked at both the Naturehike website and Amazon, and nowhere in the descriptions for this tent on either site does it claim the Opalus is a "4 season tent". Some of the Naturehike tents definitely can be ordered with an optional snow skirt fly to create a more 4 season worthy tent, but the Opalus does not seem to have that option. I'll definitely be looking for your review of the Cloud Up tent you showed briefly in this video. Thank you for doing such excellent, in-depth reviews!
I understand from some of the comments here that there is a "four seaon liner option". Perhaps NaturehIkes marketing efforts are a bit coinfusing? MAybe Nauturhine was supposed to sent a four season version? Maybe we will never know...
Love how you're so straight forward and your reviews are unbiased. I hate the colors of most tents now-a-days...like a previous commenter mentioned. I want a tent that blends in...not one the sticks out screaming "here I am". Not that I'm trying to hide...but why would you want a "safety" color for a tent? I have other means of signaling if I need it in case of emergency. I do LOVE tents with vestibules. Having a front porch gives you protected entry from the weather.
I bought a Naturehike Star River 2 a couple of years ago, and have used it many times in wet and moderate wind conditions. It's always kept me dry. I once had a minor issue with the top pole junction connector coming loose, but easily fixed with a screwdriver. No other issues yet.
Never used their tents but love their inflatable pillows. I use them for sleeping at home due to neck problems from a surgery. They last between a year to a year and half with use every night.
Cannot see it mentions 4 season on naturehike website but Amazon have this in description:- 4 SEASONS with 1 TENT - It has double layers can be used for many ways of camping: inner and outer tent superpose together as a waterproof and windproof tent to be used in rainy snowy weather winter; use inner tent alone with good ventilation in spring summer autumn. Perfect for hiking climbing in spring summer autumn winter.
I am so glad I found this channel I went snow camping once and man my husband and I were swimming in condensation. We stayed for 5 days along the white Russian River above Murphy CA. It was a hard lesson in roughing it.
I did an overnighter in the Naturehike Cloud-up 2 last December and it did well with a light dusting of snow and 20 degree temps.I did put some leaves and pine needles around the base to block any wind. Have yet to test it in the rain...Good budget tent imo.
I agree with others who have commented below. The leak was caused by operator error. The vent should have been guyed out which to me would have made all the difference. All in all this is another great review!
I use a small stick to hold the vent open, making the top of the vent as tight as it would be if it were tied off. Never had mine leak and we’ve been in some pretty stout rain. If it’s not tied off well all around, the 20D nylon tends to sag and even then needs more adjustment to keep it tight. All in all, great tent!
Naturhike is the Xiaomi of tents:) I am using P3 for a while (almost 3 years). I have been in heavy rain. Fully dry, well ventilated. And it has been sold as 3 season tent. It is almost same in material and as in pros and cons of this one. Just a slimmer version maybe.
@5:00 Honestly, it looks like it’s going to do very well. The mesh front door is ventilation, and the yellow top cover will shield the blowing wind and snow/rain....but you’re probably right about the winter time....gonna need a heater!
got a the Naturehike Cloud Up 2, same material. Had it up in 3 days of heavy rain and it didn't let a drop through. Some condensation, but it never dripped onto me unless I knocked the tent. It was a little drafty, but honestly, not an issue when you are wearing the right gear. Biggest downside is the strength of the poles. Spent an icy night up on the 3rd highest peak in England and woke up to some pretty strong winds which bent a section of pole. Not the end of the world though as I can get a new set of poles delivered for £20. For the money, I cant fault it
That tent can be used like how lonewolf 902 does and put a wood stove in the front vestibule area , of coarse you have to get the kit and cut your hole out in it, it works well with what I have seen
Hi Luke, you missed saying that the version you are testing has a polyester fly while there is a green version with a nylon fly which is probably stronger as it is siliconized on d outer side of d fly and also a bit lighter. This Oppalus is based on the Nordisk Oppland in my opinion. I would check out the Cloud Peak 2 by Naturehike.... it's based on the Allak by Hilleberg.
So this is where the Home Alone kid went! 😂 In all seriousness I love you videos, they motivate me to get out even in these cold times. The vibes and quality of your videos and your personality is very excellent, you have a strong mental state witch is always very important in the wilderness!
The outer wall seems good. If this had a solid walled inner it looks like it'd be decent for winter. If it was silicon nylon and had a stove jack, it looks like something i'd buy
I have several Naturehike tents including the 2 man version of this tent in green,it's a cracking spacious one person tent,it only has the one door unlike the 3 person & 4 person versions,the poles if anything would be the weak point with all Naturehike tents I feel but saying that I've personally had no problems with any of mine,my favourite of my Naturehike tents is the Cloud Peak 2,it's another copy of a Hilleberg tent but for the money it's a fantastic tent & I have seen here on UA-cam someone who upgraded the tent with 9mm or possibly 9.5mm DAC poles which makes it one hell of a tent for the price point..be cool if you could put the Cloud Peak 2 through its paces Luke that's for sure..all the very best Andy
Luke and Susie we here in Iowa are are in eight inches of snow and thirty mile an hour winds with blowing snow it's to get below zero tonight and in the next few days we are watching the channel
Luke, I am glad that you are honest about the water drops (inside) from rain. It happened to me before. My clever idea: 8 by 10 tarp (camo) with binder clips on 9 by 7 dome tent (top). The answer is no water drops (inside) by rain or snow plus dark (inside) like be nice. It works. You will get it or Maybe you will say Oh Yes. Thanks for your time. Have a great day! Mr. Jens Williamson, III (Deaf) 😎😷👍🇺🇸 The camping expert The former boy scout: Austin, Texas and Blanco, Texas. #1 Team Work.....USA and World Where to buy: Walmart. San Antonio, Texas love World.
i purchased the green two person version of that tent and i have not used it yet, due to the lockdowns in england. and my tent was not advertised as being four season. i only purchased it to use on camp grounds in the summer. and it can certainly rain in the summer in england.
That vent does need a new design. I have a three season tent. I agree with you on your assessment that that is not a four season tent. Here in Texas that tent would be super! The bathroom floor needs to be a bit higher. My tent also has more material up the side where your head goes. That might cut wind flow, but it would be warmer in an extreme need.
I've had zero experience with that model, but Naturehike is a good brand. I own the Cloud up 1 and have used it in very heavy rain with no issues. I'm in the UK and the brand seems very popular over here.
I have 3 double coated dogs (2 malamutes and a secondhand bernedoodle) and this seems exactly like it's what I'm looking for. Due to the double coats, my dogs get pretty hot and need good airflow. But the main thing is that vestibule! It's so hard to keep inside the tent clean when you have that much dog coming in from a rainy hike. Having an enclosed vestibule where all 3 of my dogs can fit so I can wipe/dry them off before letting them in the tent would be a game changer for me!!!
Well I was pretty close on my guess its huge inside and that vestibule is awesome plenty room for ur gear and take off whatever ya dont want inside the sleeping room
Thank you again for awesome video of the Opalus 3 person tent! I am a biker and I be taking a trip after my knee surgery and I doing research which tent I be taking! Mr. Luke ☕☕
I agree: naturehike makes great 3+ season tents for a great price (I have several cloud up 2X versions). To make things confusing, some Amazon sellers say it's 3 season while others say 4. Safest to assume the worst
Interesting video, thanks. I currently have a naturehike cloud peak 2, love it, lightweight and quick to set up and doesn’t take up much room in my dry bag. I’ve used it in hot summers, cold autumns and even in a 15+ hour storm with 25-30mph winds and constant rain. A bit noisy unsurprisingly but stayed planted and dry throughout. Can’t fault it for the money.
I would really recommend people checkout the green color variant of this tent if they're considering picking one up, it's exactly the same but with a different outer material making it lighter and smaller in pack size and in my experience hasn't leaked yet, well with uk rain storms anyways maybe the us kind works out more 😂
I can't speak for the Orange 210T version but I've got the 20D green version and it is completely waterproof. I have actually seen a video of a couple using one in up to 70mph winds and very wet UK weather. They also woke up to ground surface running water due to pitch location and the tent performed extremely well. It's a bit of a mystery as to why your tent failed as this is the first-ever reported case I've seen - including from a UA-camr that also has the 210T version.
Love these please do the kuiu tent the 1 person and the 2p alot of hunters would like a good review from you thanks keep the solo overnight trips coming
Hi Luke, glad to see you are recovering well from the procedure. Seen a few comments buried in replies, but I'll say it on the top level. Guy lines. 2nd video I've watched recently where you've failed to stake out the guy lines (the other was the NH Cloud Up tent you reviewed recently). OK the wind didn't appear to be doing a great deal, but they are structural components that could influence the outcome of the review if conditions change. Most NH tents have the manual sewn into the bag/valise, so no excuse for that. And you're right, it's not a 4 season tent LOL. S & H
Conclusion? It's definitely and most certainly 100% with out a doubt with the utmost positively certainty not a four season tent as we think of a winter tent.. And the vent has a design issue..
I'm always warry of Naturehike, because even on their products pages and products descriptions, it always feels like they are kind off always overselling/overestimating their stuff. On Aliexpress, there is only one vendor I trust when it comes to tents : It's 3F UL Gear and their "Lanshan" series of tents. Got two of these, 1 single walled 1P (Lanshan 1 Pro) for summer, and a double walled 2P for winter (Lanshan 2 Pro 4 Season). They both went with me on very windy high altitude hikes and so far, I'm In love with these! These use your trekking poles as structure, pack super light and super small.
Thank you for your great job! I look forward to using it in Caucasus summer mountains. This tent has amazing living space (especially for my size) and vestibule for equipment.
Thanks for that, I found your one tigris tangram and baker tent 2.0 extreme test to be very helpful i searched and searched the internet and UA-cam for reviews of the tangram (non biased reviews) and also done in a realistic situation. What a gem this channel is invaluable keep up the great work
I have NH ul 3in. sleep pad for 2 years with no problem. It's a good light weight pad for the money. Probably a little optimistic on R value. Used it in late November here in MI.30°s with a closed cell foam pad under was fine. Wish they still made my version worth picking up another one.
It is a Southern 4 season tent.
Yup, Arizona four season. Two weeks of winter. HA, saw Terry F's post right after I posted.
Perfectly put!
Pinned! - Luke
I was told years ago to be careful when purchasing a four season tent. It’s stuck in my head.
Like Key West...........
@@Jeff-jg7jh Even in Arizona, I'm considering buying a 4-season teepee tent with screened doors. I honestly want something ultralight that I can put a wood stove in. Being able to heat your tent with wood and cook without going out in the elements is a pretty nice capability to have. As long as you can make it warm and it doesn't leak, a lot of other compromises can be forgiven.
hey Luke, this is the 3 season model. the 4 season design has a 15d inner. not mesh.
Doh!!!
I know I'm miles late, but I still have to bump this, because it is core.
The 15d (green) version has a mesh inner as well. The green and orange tents are designed exactly the same, they just use different materials aside from the mesh.
@@MFRileyI think the original comment is referring to the 20d 4 season model that has a 15d inner?
I tried to find this tent in a version with a warmer/convertible inner tent, without the mesh. No success. It would be an easy upgrade. Really too bad they don't seem to offer it.
I've bought a naturehike 1 person 3 season tent, and have used it frequently for about 3 years. never had anything malfunction so far, and it was dirt-cheap! also, packs light, keeps me dry and works in the winter too.
First problem I see is that he bought the 210T polyester version (8lbs) vice the 20D nylon (6lb green tent). 210T is heavier and less tear resistant at the same thickness as 20D.
I live in Wa. St. and I have thoroughly tested this in all of the PNW winter fury and I can say that the 20D version holds up very well in the winter. I had mine set up during heavy rain and wind. I can personally attest that not even using any of the many guy lines she held up perfectly against the wind and no rain came in even from the sides.
Second problem is that he doesn’t understand physics. The tri-blade style stakes hold very well! No matter which way you put the stakes down two of the blades will provide resistance from being uprooted and they hold perfectly in high wind rainy conditions. Be smart in the direction you orient your tent. The only issue is they don’t provide enough stakes to use all the guy lines which it has MANY.
Third problem is that he didn’t try it in true winter conditions. My wife and I tested this in 20 degree Washington winter with two kelty down 30 degree bags with each of us having a 2.2 R rated sleeping pads. With just our sleeping clothes and a pair of socks on we were perfectly warm.
I challenge Luke in the future that when he makes these claims to actually test it in the conditions that he claims it won’t work well in. There are other videos out there of this tent showing it holding up in crazy snowy conditions. Always do your own research and only use others opinions as a guide, not as gospel.
Sorry I'm about a year late with my comment, but I must make an important point. I'm in the UK and have a few Nature Hike tents... It appears that he didn't use ANY guy lines as far as I can tell (?) - Although in good weather or no wind you don't need to put them out, when it rains, you should use the ones attached to the vents !!! The tension produced actually adds 'cover' to the vent opening, enough to stop any water ingress that was occurring. I have not had ANY issues with water entering, EVER (and that has been in some very stormy weather) in Scotland.
Big respect for the long tent tests, it really shows any weaknesses especially if it is not a four season tent.
One of things I love most about Luke`s channel is that it`s not sponsered by squarebloodyspace!
Luke. MAN! Every time I decided to look up a product, it's you who pop's up 1st with a review of the product. It's insane. After watching a few different reviews, I always enjoy yours 1st and believe you to be the best and most honest reviewer. Man, Luke, I really appreciate you, Sir. Thank you. God bless you, your daughter and wife. Again, thank you, Sir.
Wow! Pole sleeves! It's 1985 again! Seriously, though, pole sleeves help with tent stability. Hoop tents were the thing back then, for weight savings over dome tents. Then came the Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight, and now clips are the rule, though they get brittle and can break with age, but they can be temporarily replaced with a loop of cord.
I actually like that design.
Thanks, Luke!👍
In the Carolina's we call this a day tent since we get all 4 seasons in one day.
Man, I really like the vestibule design on that. My tent is an old MSR Elixir 2, and getting in and out when wearing a soaked jacket in the rain is a bit of a gymnastics exercise. This vestibule is enormous!
Yeah, it looks like an ideal tent to ride out a storm in, what with all that extra living & dining/cooking space.
I'm not sure if Luke mentioned it but is this NOT a four-season tent? 🤣😂😁
No, can’t say he did . . . 🤪🤪🤪
He may have mentioned..just once or twice..😊🤔
Hmmm...lemme think.....😂
It isn’t??? Gee I must have missed that
@@dennisjs
Well easy to miss, I not sure he ever said it 🤪😱🤪🤪🤪
Anything's a 4 season tent if you're brave enough.
It depends on where you live. If all seasons are quite similar, no extra cold-wind, nothing to worry.
I live in a place with crazy weather patterns - every tent is a 4 season tent lol
ultimately that's true, my EBNS is my year round single person tent, in MN, but I also use an insulated sleep mat, and full MSS + layers.
some people use just the full MSS+mat and/or layers on the ground in the winter, so not unheard of.
And if you know how to throw on a tarp when it's especially cold.
I once cowboy camped in the Cascades during shirt sleeve weather and woke up submirged in a snowdrift. Somehow my cheapo down bag made a good shelter! To be fair is was extremely dry powder. That was over 40 years ago. What a trip that was.
I have the Cloud up 2 person. Have had no issues. Pretty happy with it
Maybe, if you'd made the effort to set it up properly, by staking out the vent guyline (provided and attached!), it would not have leaked? I got the feeling you really didn't want to be there and honestly Luke, am not entirely convinced you, in fact, were. The lack of enthusiasm is glaring. I'm actively shopping for a tent in this category right now and found this "review" annoying, at best. No specs, dimensions, details or deniers, but a whole lot of "only one leak", over and over when you, most likely, were responsible for it!
I've only got the Cloud Up 2 from Naturehike, and really like it so far. Thanks Luke 👍
Got the Cloudup2 as well. Just ordered the opalus3 so I can take my dog and he can sleep in the vestibule are
Same and i'm happy with it too
@@waynefarlette What! My dog not only gets inside my tent but inside my sleeping bag 😂!
I have this tent… used in in a massive downpour, where it was 3 inches of rain in New Jersey…. No leaks anywhere, it stayed warm in 40 degree temp and it is a tent I would recommend this to anyone…
I do like NatureHike, I've several products from them and they're all durable, budget friendly and doing the job well done. Sure, there's room for improvement, but for the price range that their products costs and the value you get, it's great.
This is a pretty popular brand in the Uk and generally good reviews.....and we do get quite a bit of rain. As you say not a true 4 season tent but could be ok in reasonable 4th season weather (ie no big storms and temps not too low).
I really dislike camping in the rain..... it defeats the whole point (unless you're testing the materials of course). As an older guy, I just prefer clear weather to go out and enjoy my nature hikes and excursions. Bless you for helping know the equipment and what works - what doesn't. We appreciate you !!!
Huge vestibule, tons of room, not too expensive, waterproof....I like it!!!!!!!!
I have a Naturehike Cloud Up 1,the lightest silnylon model. It has been an excellent tent,and weight a bit over 2 pounds. Love it
00:25 Agenda free. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Great job man. That is what we need and this kind of channel philosophy we want.
In the UK they sell this tent in green and orange at different prices - the orange is always cheaper. I might have got this wrong but my understanding was that it's the green version only that's supposed to be 4 season.
Interesting. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the info.
The difference is the material. Where the green variant is 20D nylon (lighter material) and 210t polyester (a bit heavier).
My two cents: Currently using a NatureHike 3 season and it has held up over the past three years; I use it year round but winters are generally spent in the desert (Negev). Their cheaper tents have zipper problems but the medium to high price stuff is usually very good quality and well thought out.
I’ve quite a bit of experience with both the cloud up 2 and the “cycling” one man tent. Both are not perfect by any means, but they are less than a 1/4 of the cost of “brand” tends. Compromises are everywhere but I’ve yet to get wet in one and yet to have one fail. Given the super low cost of them I can’t really complain. Understand going in that you’re not getting a “high end” tent, but compared to the other offerings out there in the same cost range, I’d call everything I’ve used from nature hike as “well worth it”. Keep in mind though that “four season” means something very different in different parts of the world. Obviously this one isn’t a “snow weather” tent ... but if “winter” in your part of the world is mostly just cooler (25-35F overnight), with low precipitation, then there is no reason this couldn’t be used four seasons “where you live”. (Just use your head and and be safe). As has been said elsewhere though, you can simply look at this and the build materials and tell it’s not made for heavy winter (heavy snow). Going to need to spend a lot more money to get to that point. :)
I have a 4-season tent that is almost exactly the same design. Except that it is a true 4-season. It handled great in the weather. Rain & wind. I’ll be taking it out next week for a true test of snow, freezing rain and high wind.
Sounds interesting what's its name and brand. Do share everyone will be interested.
the Cloud Peak 2 is a great tent. I live in Scotland and its been brilliant. I also noticed that you didnt use all of the stake out points and if you had i wonder if that would have changed the angle of the vent??? Only a thought but maybe worth investigating
Have this exact tent. Had it out a couple of times in very wet conditions and haven't noticed any problems with leaking, but I always put out all the guy ropes.
We get quite got and humid weather here, so the ventilation is appreciated. Enough space for mum, dad, kid, dog and a bit of gear.
I bought a very good hammock tent from Naturehike, which I have been using for 5 years, 4 5 times a year, it takes rain but not much wind. I have enjoyed every camping with that hammock
I do have that exact same tent. I pull the line for the vent out and stake it out at a steep angle which allows the line to act as a drip line and helps keep rain from splashing up into the vent.
setting in my home office watching this...listening to the rain hitting the tent and seeing there's a nice dry place to bundle up and bed down in, with that rain pattering in the background...man...it's sleepy time!
I have to say, I'm going to look into this tent for when a weekend in Panama City Beach calls to me. Or Savannah maybe. Thank you Luke, your time, passion and attention to detail while remaining agenda free is a HUGE benefit.
Maybe the vent leak cos u never tied up the vent's rope?
Last year I bought the Naturehike Vik1 and Mongar2 with vestibule. I love both of them. If I'm hiking and weight is an issue I go with the Vik1. If car camping and I want a little extra room for myself, I use the Mongar2. Everything seems well thought out. Color matching on stake points for easier setup. An embedded magnet in the door to manage it better. Its seam sealed. If its rainy, I'd probably prefer the Mongar2 since there's an outer shell. However, I've had no issues with leaks in either. I wish this company would make more tents.
I bought the Mongar 2 about a year ago, it has worked really well for me.
I just got the Cloud Stream 3 and love it for base camping. The little awning built into the fly was great for rainfall.
Have had Cloudup 3 for 3 years, the old version - it is quality material. Of course there is some quality issues in some areas like you said but those are smaller ones. The 20D material is pretty easy to get holes, at least I have one in the lower area. It has foot print always included and it is very heavy duty, can take hits.
The loose threads shown are where the thread spools ran out and new spools picked up there. Nothing to be concerned about, although you could cut the loose ends if you wanted. The inner mesh won't hold as much heat, but you're not going to get snow or wind past the outer fly. If anything, that mesh takes care of any condensation issues.
Nice to see naturehike tents being reviewed now by you Luke. I have 4 naturehike tents and the only one I got disappointed in was the Hiby (an old model but I bought it recently) but it was a bit of my fault. I packed the tent to tightly and with camping off the table for a year, the coating from the nylon have cracked as well as the seams. Other naturehike tents I've had, have seen brutal conditions and I trust them all completely to keep me and all my cameras dry.
I wonder if you would have secured the guy line on the vent, instead of leaving it tied up, if it still would’ve leaked
I was going to say the same thing. I just didn’t want to come off as snarky lol
DeerHunter108 I hope I didn’t come off snarky. Hahaha I meant my comment in the gentlest of tones hahah
@@roberttaylor9611 Not at all. You worded it quite plainly and kindly. It was I that feared I would come off snarky. It was not in reference to yours. Sorry for the confusion.
I made this comment further up and have only just read these ones: So am repeating it because it would fit in better here:
Sorry I'm about a year late with my comment, but I must make an important point. I'm in the UK and have a few Nature Hike tents... It appears that he didn't use ANY guy lines as far as I can tell (?) - Although in good weather or no wind you don't need to put them out, when it rains, you should use the ones attached to the vents !!! The tension produced actually adds 'cover' to the vent opening, enough to stop any water ingress that was occurring. I have not had ANY issues with water entering, EVER (and that has been in some very stormy weather) in Scotland.
I have many Naturehike tents and they work great. I expect the same with this tent.
I used naturehike sleeping pad, sleeping bag. Happy with the price. My friends has their cloud up, spider, etc. tents. All are satisfied.
Hey Luke, Nice to see you reviewing NatureHike. I always trust your reviews and your hard work is greatly appreciated. I bought the NatureHike SilentWing 1person text about a year ago for light weight moto camping. Used it once. No issues except the zipper is a little tight, I only used it in summer clear sky weather, fairly warm. Packs small, little vestibule and was a $100 bucks on Amazon. For the price it suited my needs.
I like all the room and it looks like a nice tent. Now let's see about the rain.
Thanks for the review Luke,,, the fastest way too check if a tent is water resistant is a garden hose. If it doesn't pass the hose test We won't use it on the nahanni river trips... Quick easy and fast
I've seen Naturehike tents get some pretty good reviews through some UK based UA-cam channels. I looked at both the Naturehike website and Amazon, and nowhere in the descriptions for this tent on either site does it claim the Opalus is a "4 season tent". Some of the Naturehike tents definitely can be ordered with an optional snow skirt fly to create a more 4 season worthy tent, but the Opalus does not seem to have that option. I'll definitely be looking for your review of the Cloud Up tent you showed briefly in this video. Thank you for doing such excellent, in-depth reviews!
I understand from some of the comments here that there is a "four seaon liner option". Perhaps NaturehIkes marketing efforts are a bit coinfusing? MAybe Nauturhine was supposed to sent a four season version? Maybe we will never know...
Do you have a link to the UK Based UA-cam channels where they've reviewed NH tents? Cheers 👍🏻
Love how you're so straight forward and your reviews are unbiased. I hate the colors of most tents now-a-days...like a previous commenter mentioned. I want a tent that blends in...not one the sticks out screaming "here I am". Not that I'm trying to hide...but why would you want a "safety" color for a tent? I have other means of signaling if I need it in case of emergency. I do LOVE tents with vestibules. Having a front porch gives you protected entry from the weather.
This tent also comes in dark green.
I bought a Naturehike Star River 2 a couple of years ago, and have used it many times in wet and moderate wind conditions. It's always kept me dry. I once had a minor issue with the top pole junction connector coming loose, but easily fixed with a screwdriver. No other issues yet.
Most of my NatureHike products are great. No complaints at all.
General quality with Naturehike are assured.
They are incredibly awesome
Never used their tents but love their inflatable pillows. I use them for sleeping at home due to neck problems from a surgery. They last between a year to a year and half with use every night.
Just cut the excess thread and super glue it, I do that to all my gear when I find loose thread , easy fix and it last
Don't use super glue, though. Use seam sealer. Super glue is bad stuff for tents.
I love the sound of rain on a tent, back in the day we had canvas ones with an outer flysheet, never let us down
Cannot see it mentions 4 season on naturehike website but Amazon have this in description:- 4 SEASONS with 1 TENT - It has double layers can be used for many ways of camping: inner and outer tent superpose together as a waterproof and windproof tent to be used in rainy snowy weather winter; use inner tent alone with good ventilation in spring summer autumn. Perfect for hiking climbing in spring summer autumn winter.
I am so glad I found this channel I went snow camping once and man my husband and I were swimming in condensation. We stayed for 5 days along the white Russian River above Murphy CA. It was a hard lesson in roughing it.
I've been using NatureHike for a while now and IMHO you get more than enough value for its price
I did an overnighter in the Naturehike Cloud-up 2 last December and it did well with a light dusting of snow and 20 degree temps.I did put some leaves and pine needles around the base to block any wind. Have yet to test it in the rain...Good budget tent imo.
I have the 20D green opolus 3 tent and its been great definitely breezy inside but its perfect for us here in Australia
I'm wondering how it will go with north Queensland torrential rain though?
My wonderful naturehike tent kept me bone dry during a tropical storm. 😊
Which Naturehike tent model did you get that did well in a tropical storm? I'm looking for one too
I agree with others who have commented below. The leak was caused by operator error. The vent should have been guyed out which to me would have made all the difference. All in all this is another great review!
I use a small stick to hold the vent open, making the top of the vent as tight as it would be if it were tied off. Never had mine leak and we’ve been in some pretty stout rain. If it’s not tied off well all around, the 20D nylon tends to sag and even then needs more adjustment to keep it tight. All in all, great tent!
In this tent you are in constant sunset. :)
Naturhike is the Xiaomi of tents:) I am using P3 for a while (almost 3 years). I have been in heavy rain. Fully dry, well ventilated. And it has been sold as 3 season tent. It is almost same in material and as in pros and cons of this one. Just a slimmer version maybe.
I love my NatureHike Cloud up 2, and other gear. ive owned mine for 4 years now when they were selling on Alibaba.
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Honestly, it looks like it’s going to do very well. The mesh front door is ventilation, and the yellow top cover will shield the blowing wind and snow/rain....but you’re probably right about the winter time....gonna need a heater!
I have the Cloud up 2 tent from Nature Hike and have been very satisfied with it
got a the Naturehike Cloud Up 2, same material. Had it up in 3 days of heavy rain and it didn't let a drop through. Some condensation, but it never dripped onto me unless I knocked the tent. It was a little drafty, but honestly, not an issue when you are wearing the right gear. Biggest downside is the strength of the poles. Spent an icy night up on the 3rd highest peak in England and woke up to some pretty strong winds which bent a section of pole. Not the end of the world though as I can get a new set of poles delivered for £20. For the money, I cant fault it
That tent can be used like how lonewolf 902 does and put a wood stove in the front vestibule area , of coarse you have to get the kit and cut your hole out in it, it works well with what I have seen
Exactly what I was thinking.
Hi Luke, you missed saying that the version you are testing has a polyester fly while there is a green version with a nylon fly which is probably stronger as it is siliconized on d outer side of d fly and also a bit lighter. This Oppalus is based on the Nordisk Oppland in my opinion. I would check out the Cloud Peak 2 by Naturehike.... it's based on the Allak by Hilleberg.
I often set up a large tarp over my tent when bad weather or very hot and sunny.
So this is where the Home Alone kid went! 😂 In all seriousness I love you videos, they motivate me to get out even in these cold times. The vibes and quality of your videos and your personality is very excellent, you have a strong mental state witch is always very important in the wilderness!
The outer wall seems good. If this had a solid walled inner it looks like it'd be decent for winter. If it was silicon nylon and had a stove jack, it looks like something i'd buy
I have several Naturehike tents including the 2 man version of this tent in green,it's a cracking spacious one person tent,it only has the one door unlike the 3 person & 4 person versions,the poles if anything would be the weak point with all Naturehike tents I feel but saying that I've personally had no problems with any of mine,my favourite of my Naturehike tents is the Cloud Peak 2,it's another copy of a Hilleberg tent but for the money it's a fantastic tent & I have seen here on UA-cam someone who upgraded the tent with 9mm or possibly 9.5mm DAC poles which makes it one hell of a tent for the price point..be cool if you could put the Cloud Peak 2 through its paces Luke that's for sure..all the very best Andy
Luke and Susie we here in Iowa are are in eight inches of snow and thirty mile an hour winds with blowing snow it's to get below zero tonight and in the next few days we are watching the channel
Glad to see your Op went well & your feeling good. Thanks for review.
Luke,
I am glad that you are honest about the water drops (inside) from rain. It happened to me before. My clever idea: 8 by 10 tarp (camo) with binder clips on 9 by 7 dome tent (top). The answer is no water drops (inside) by rain or snow plus dark (inside) like be nice. It works. You will get it or Maybe you will say Oh Yes. Thanks for your time. Have a great day!
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i purchased the green two person version of that tent and i have not used it yet, due to the lockdowns in england. and my tent was not advertised as being four season. i only purchased it to use on camp grounds in the summer. and it can certainly rain in the summer in england.
That vent does need a new design. I have a three season tent. I agree with you on your assessment that that is not a four season tent. Here in Texas that tent would be super!
The bathroom floor needs to be a bit higher. My tent also has more material up the side where your head goes. That might cut wind flow, but it would be warmer in an extreme need.
I've had zero experience with that model, but Naturehike is a good brand. I own the Cloud up 1 and have used it in very heavy rain with no issues. I'm in the UK and the brand seems very popular over here.
Great review it is great to be able to see these reviews before you buy a product thank you for sharing be safe be warm
I have 3 double coated dogs (2 malamutes and a secondhand bernedoodle) and this seems exactly like it's what I'm looking for. Due to the double coats, my dogs get pretty hot and need good airflow. But the main thing is that vestibule! It's so hard to keep inside the tent clean when you have that much dog coming in from a rainy hike. Having an enclosed vestibule where all 3 of my dogs can fit so I can wipe/dry them off before letting them in the tent would be a game changer for me!!!
I have Naturehike Star River 2, and I love it. It is a very good tent, I am impressed.
I would like to see a stove jack for a small backpack portable wood stove in the vestibule area.
I wouldnt and apparently neither would NatureHike. There are other tents better suited for that endeavor.
Well I was pretty close on my guess its huge inside and that vestibule is awesome plenty room for ur gear and take off whatever ya dont want inside the sleeping room
Thank you again for awesome video of the Opalus 3 person tent! I am a biker and I be taking a trip after my knee surgery and I doing research which tent I be taking! Mr. Luke ☕☕
Nice tent. I really like the spacious vestibule made to protect your gear and the large room.
I agree: naturehike makes great 3+ season tents for a great price (I have several cloud up 2X versions). To make things confusing, some Amazon sellers say it's 3 season while others say 4. Safest to assume the worst
Interesting video, thanks. I currently have a naturehike cloud peak 2, love it, lightweight and quick to set up and doesn’t take up much room in my dry bag. I’ve used it in hot summers, cold autumns and even in a 15+ hour storm with 25-30mph winds and constant rain. A bit noisy unsurprisingly but stayed planted and dry throughout. Can’t fault it for the money.
I would really recommend people checkout the green color variant of this tent if they're considering picking one up, it's exactly the same but with a different outer material making it lighter and smaller in pack size and in my experience hasn't leaked yet, well with uk rain storms anyways maybe the us kind works out more 😂
I can't speak for the Orange 210T version but I've got the 20D green version and it is completely waterproof. I have actually seen a video of a couple using one in up to 70mph winds and very wet UK weather. They also woke up to ground surface running water due to pitch location and the tent performed extremely well. It's a bit of a mystery as to why your tent failed as this is the first-ever reported case I've seen - including from a UA-camr that also has the 210T version.
Great if you're out with the kids in the summer at a State campground. I prefer earth tone colors!
Thanks Luke, take care!
Your Reviews are always Spot On. Ty
Love these please do the kuiu tent the 1 person and the 2p alot of hunters would like a good review from you thanks keep the solo overnight trips coming
Hi Luke, glad to see you are recovering well from the procedure. Seen a few comments buried in replies, but I'll say it on the top level. Guy lines. 2nd video I've watched recently where you've failed to stake out the guy lines (the other was the NH Cloud Up tent you reviewed recently). OK the wind didn't appear to be doing a great deal, but they are structural components that could influence the outcome of the review if conditions change. Most NH tents have the manual sewn into the bag/valise, so no excuse for that.
And you're right, it's not a 4 season tent LOL.
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Luke you are right that tent would not be good in snow and the wind we are having but what would you do about leaking of rain what would you do
Conclusion?
It's definitely and most certainly 100% with out a doubt with the utmost positively certainty not a four season tent as we think of a winter tent..
And the vent has a design issue..
I'm always warry of Naturehike, because even on their products pages and products descriptions, it always feels like they are kind off always overselling/overestimating their stuff.
On Aliexpress, there is only one vendor I trust when it comes to tents : It's 3F UL Gear and their "Lanshan" series of tents.
Got two of these, 1 single walled 1P (Lanshan 1 Pro) for summer, and a double walled 2P for winter (Lanshan 2 Pro 4 Season). They both went with me on very windy high altitude hikes and so far, I'm In love with these! These use your trekking poles as structure, pack super light and super small.
Thank you for your great job! I look forward to using it in Caucasus summer mountains. This tent has amazing living space (especially for my size) and vestibule for equipment.
I've had naturehikes waterproof duffel bag for years of hard abuse and its still good as new.
Thanks for that, I found your one tigris tangram and baker tent 2.0 extreme test to be very helpful i searched and searched the internet and UA-cam for reviews of the tangram (non biased reviews) and also done in a realistic situation. What a gem this channel is invaluable keep up the great work
I have NH ul 3in. sleep pad for 2 years with no problem. It's a good light weight pad for the money. Probably a little optimistic on R value. Used it in late November here in MI.30°s with a closed cell foam pad under was fine. Wish they still made my version worth picking up another one.