Black Walder is hard as fuck “ nasty bit of business that one” Hosteen Black Walder and Walder rivers are easily in the top 15 warriors of Westeros during WO5K
Black Walder has always been one of my favorite Freys. Dude is a badass unlike most of his cowardly cousins. He has got to have some Bracken in his blood because of how he's described. I wish George had added a prince charming kind of Frey that serves as the antithesis to Black Walder and goes against all of the Frey stereotypes. Perhaps an "Rhaegar Targaryen" type of Frey that everyone likes and wants to be heir and Black Walder treats as his rival. White Walder vs Black Walder.
Isn't funny that the Northmen at the red wedding cheer for Robb Stark and Queen Jeyne, and then have the nerve to act surprised the Freys betrayed them. Not a good idea to to rub salt in Frey's wounds by cheering for Jeyne. Isn't it funny how the northmen don't even care that Robb Stark broke his oath to Frey, then have the nerve to demand Frey be "honorable?" and uphold guest right. LOL, Red Wedding was Robb's own doing, he should have kept his oath rather then screw over the Freys, who made a total 1/3 of his army to march on Moat Caelin.
I have a lot of empathy for the Freys. Maybe it’s because I too was raised by an abusive parent. People seem to forget how the other houses in GOT constantly dehumanize the Freys. They do not see them as people, as peers or as worthwhile. Throughout the entire book series whenever they are mentioned, people are attacking their looks, their abilities, their counsel. They are constantly being used and lied to by other houses. How many times has Catelyn Stark made mock of their looks, or speak ill of Lord Walder, and she even admitted her own father did the same which probably prompted the late Lord Walder incident. Edmure Tully, who isn’t much of anything, insulted Lothar and Martyn Rivers. Claiming they weren’t good enough to be in his presence because one had a bad leg, the other was baseborn. Robb Stark lied to them in order to cross and have Frey men die for him. Rather than keep his promises, he screwed some woman who was put up to it by her ambitious mother. And rather than take responsibility, he wanted to use the Freys again, and his uncle was the one who had to make it up for him. People also forget how all the other houses, especially the Starks, have done countless evils in the world, yet their honour and nobility are never questioned or tarnished. Why? Because the Freys are hard working common people who raised themselves up into riches and nobility, and these other houses are classist and arrogant. The Freys acted no different than any other house did before them, which is mentioned quite a few times throughout the books by many different characters. It makes sense that people who are constantly being spat on would act hostile.
@@alexandermendez4653 Rob looked the other way when his mother betrayed everyone releasing the kingslayer, but killed lord karstark when he killed some lanisters, then he married an enemy's daughter!!he was not honorable at all,
How did you possibly miss the fact that he’s a bastard? That’s why he’s got the bad attitude. Edmure says “Blavk Walder, that one was not named for the color of his beard. Hates that he’s a bastard and hates everyone that isn’t one.” He’s not in the line of succession but he is “the fiercest fighter of all the Freys” and some think he might try to take the twins by force but again, he’s not in the line if succession. Little walder and big walder mention him when they talk about succession but he’s a bastard.
@miketime4290 They gained Riverrun, Darry and Rosby are coming soon, Baelish isn't even there, Walder is gonna take over Harrenhall he is the only man who can fill the entire castle
Thank you! You can always tell who didn’t read the books, as they are the ones who shit on the Freys while ignoring the wrongs committed against them from other houses. Every other house spits on the Freys, uses them constantly and retracts their promises to them. Robb Stark was a piece of shit. And so was Edmure and Catelin herself. The funniest part is, Stark had no clue whatsoever he was set up by Jeyne’s family. Lol some king.
@@ChristianMcClaine OmG that made me laugh so hard...but yo! There IS the Black Goat Vargo Hoat! Which is ALSO kind wierd considering that Black Fish WAS the Black Goat before he changed it to Fish. Black Aly...
If there's a good point about Black Walder is that he's honest about who he is. He's not pretentious like a lot of his relatives
Black Walder is hard as fuck “ nasty bit of business that one”
Hosteen Black Walder and Walder rivers are easily in the top 15 warriors of Westeros during WO5K
Not sure about that one lol. Top 15? No. Although both Bastard Walder and Black Walder are tough mean mfs.
Black Walder has always been one of my favorite Freys. Dude is a badass unlike most of his cowardly cousins. He has got to have some Bracken in his blood because of how he's described. I wish George had added a prince charming kind of Frey that serves as the antithesis to Black Walder and goes against all of the Frey stereotypes. Perhaps an "Rhaegar Targaryen" type of Frey that everyone likes and wants to be heir and Black Walder treats as his rival. White Walder vs Black Walder.
That would've been an interesting dynamic
Isn't funny that the Northmen at the red wedding cheer for Robb Stark and Queen Jeyne, and then have the nerve to act surprised the Freys betrayed them. Not a good idea to to rub salt in Frey's wounds by cheering for Jeyne.
Isn't it funny how the northmen don't even care that Robb Stark broke his oath to Frey, then have the nerve to demand Frey be "honorable?" and uphold guest right.
LOL, Red Wedding was Robb's own doing, he should have kept his oath rather then screw over the Freys, who made a total 1/3 of his army to march on Moat Caelin.
I have a lot of empathy for the Freys. Maybe it’s because I too was raised by an abusive parent.
People seem to forget how the other houses in GOT constantly dehumanize the Freys. They do not see them as people, as peers or as worthwhile.
Throughout the entire book series whenever they are mentioned, people are attacking their looks, their abilities, their counsel. They are constantly being used and lied to by other houses.
How many times has Catelyn Stark made mock of their looks, or speak ill of Lord Walder, and she even admitted her own father did the same which probably prompted the late Lord Walder incident.
Edmure Tully, who isn’t much of anything, insulted Lothar and Martyn Rivers. Claiming they weren’t good enough to be in his presence because one had a bad leg, the other was baseborn.
Robb Stark lied to them in order to cross and have Frey men die for him. Rather than keep his promises, he screwed some woman who was put up to it by her ambitious mother. And rather than take responsibility, he wanted to use the Freys again, and his uncle was the one who had to make it up for him.
People also forget how all the other houses, especially the Starks, have done countless evils in the world, yet their honour and nobility are never questioned or tarnished.
Why? Because the Freys are hard working common people who raised themselves up into riches and nobility, and these other houses are classist and arrogant.
The Freys acted no different than any other house did before them, which is mentioned quite a few times throughout the books by many different characters.
It makes sense that people who are constantly being spat on would act hostile.
Great comment
Frey apologist? What they did was way worse than what Robb did.
@@alexandermendez4653 Rob looked the other way when his mother betrayed everyone releasing the kingslayer, but killed lord karstark when he killed some lanisters, then he married an enemy's daughter!!he was not honorable at all,
@@chikibusan Thank you! It’s so annoying when a well thought out comment goes over people’s heads.
@@alexandermendez4653 whatever you say love
Bro is the freyest of the freys. Makes his namesake proud
How did you possibly miss the fact that he’s a bastard? That’s why he’s got the bad attitude. Edmure says “Blavk Walder, that one was not named for the color of his beard. Hates that he’s a bastard and hates everyone that isn’t one.”
He’s not in the line of succession but he is “the fiercest fighter of all the Freys” and some think he might try to take the twins by force but again, he’s not in the line if succession. Little walder and big walder mention him when they talk about succession but he’s a bastard.
he's a bastard in the show, in the books he is a trueborn
@@dikaipera9502 he wasn’t in the show and no, he wasn’t.
the truth is, the Freys did nothing wrong, expect joining the traitors in the first place
Yes they did they gained no lands or titles. Petyr is doing better than their whole family
@miketime4290 They gained Riverrun, Darry and Rosby are coming soon, Baelish isn't even there, Walder is gonna take over Harrenhall he is the only man who can fill the entire castle
@@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367 lancel got darry then voided the marriage. And riverrun us fully in rebellion. The freys still are barely a great house
@@miketime4290 Lancel married into Darry, Amerei is the heir, I think. Also, they 4000 troups, they ARE a great house
I find the Frey factions building in the imminent fight for power after Old Walder dies very interesting.
Thanks for the video. Great as always 👍🏽
Thanks for watching!
Love your videos can you make a video describing each kingdom, strength in the books and soldier quality?
Thank you! That is an interesting idea, I may just have to add that to the list...
Please do add it to the list!
10:43 *Lowest on the totem pole of nobility*
So does that place them higher or lower than *House Clegane* ?
Good point. House Clegane isn't exactly up there either
The only Frey with some balls
My kind of dude
I want Black Walder to take out Stoneheart.
Love these videos
Thank you!
Thank you for the video. It was nice to see someone talk about black walder . The freys get way too much heat. Rob Stark is the piece of shit.
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Thank you!
You can always tell who didn’t read the books, as they are the ones who shit on the Freys while ignoring the wrongs committed against them from other houses.
Every other house spits on the Freys, uses them constantly and retracts their promises to them. Robb Stark was a piece of shit. And so was Edmure and Catelin herself. The funniest part is, Stark had no clue whatsoever he was set up by Jeyne’s family. Lol some king.
You said the word “brethren” 70 million times
I think he killed Ser Stevron
We wuz freys & sheeet 😂
Netflix GoT
Black Walder and Black Fish have WAY too much in common to NOT be related.
And they are both the only black people jn Westeros
@@ChristianMcClaine Yur so foolish hahahahah
@@ChristianMcClaine OmG that made me laugh so hard...but yo! There IS the Black Goat Vargo Hoat! Which is ALSO kind wierd considering that Black Fish WAS the Black Goat before he changed it to Fish. Black Aly...
@@ChristianMcClaine The Summer Islander Conspiracy
They are both black
Mom I want Euron Greyjoy
_We have Euron Greyjoy at home_
*Euron Greyjoy at home*
I dunno he looks white to me
I find the Frey factions building in the imminent fight for power after Old Walder dies very interesting.